1st Drive New 4.0 Porsche Cayman GTS | 4K
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- I've been dying to drive this car, the 718 GTS originally came with an effective but souless 2.5 litre 4 pot, thankfully Porsche listened to the critics (and probably noticed lack of sales), they decided to put a slightly de tuned GT4 4.0 in the GTS for the 2020 version, what a Car!
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That Nick Murray. What a fool. Great video Joe
😂 Legend! You're my hero mate ♥️
@@JoeAchilles1 That is deeply disturbing
Everyone's favourite nudist car reviewer 😅😅😅! Seriously check out Nick's chanel, great stuff. Particularly for Porsche heads. 👍
Joe and Nick, you are two of my all-time favourite car TH-camrs, no doubt 💯😎
Joe and nick is a collaboration that has to happen one day.
Manual transmission, no turbos, 6 cylinders and 4 litres.... who ever would have thought in 2021! well done Porsche! And nice vid joe!
Haha yeah properly old school, love it!
Just need to get a different exhaust and it’s perfect
Shame about the rubbish gear ratios though.
www.carscoops.com/2020/05/porsche-admits-the-cayman-gt4s-gearing-is-too-long/
And yet it turned out to be medicre - The GT4 RS however...
Excellent video as usual Joe. I too have a Cayman although it is only the 987 S but still a flat 6. I do however have a small problem. After a long journey my wife is finding it increasingly more difficult to exit the vehicle and I think it's about time for a change. I would love your knowledgeable opinion as for choices.........should I choose a blonde, brunette or redhead?
😂😂😂 That really tickled me! I actually had to read it out to my better half who also burst out laughing 👌
@@JoeAchilles1 Glad I've made an impression! Seriously though I do have the car but I wouldn't change my wife...............just in case she sees this!
I’m a die hard M fan, but I feel the need for a Cayman GTS now. Manual for the full experience.
Yeah me too mate 😂
Go for an ///M4 :))
Same
Would have the new M3 over the M4 ....think the front grille will grow on the owner.
@@matthewwhitelow5209 Grow? It’s big enough! 😂
been waiting for this video for ages! So glad you did this! Keep up the amazing work
Thank you 👌
Hi Joe, I have one of these, and still running it in. First Porsche for me, and plan to keep it a long long time. Dream for me. Absolutely love it. Even without going over 4000 rpm you can still get to hear that great sound in 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th. It’s addictive. I do understand all the comments about the long gear ratios, but I still enjoy using all the gears going slowly. Looking forward to reaching 1000 miles though and opening the taps a bit more. 😊.
Ahh great to hear buddy, very jealous 🙌👌
The running in 3000km is crazy long in these isn’t it!
BTW, the exhaust valves close even in sport mode from 2k-4k, so as to pass drive by noise regs.
That’s why is sounds really beefy low down the revs.
Once above 4k, it opens up again and sounds way better. You can’t really notice while running in sub 4k though!
You just wait 😃
I'm in exactly the same boat. Even below 4000 rpm it's the best sounding car I've ever been in. Not that loud, but so multi-layered and exciting. Logically I know the gearing is too long, but in the driving I tend to do around town, it's not an issue for me at all. I'm using all 6 gears and loving the gearbox, even if it's a bit stiff when cold. Can't wait till it's run in to hear the exhaust valves open up above 4000 rpm!
@@dannysalkin6783 We seriously have to enjoy cars like these for as long as possible. The electric revolution is partly the reason I pushed myself to take the plunge now into Porsche ownership. That and the return of the 6 cylinder in the cayman.. A bit sooner than perhaps I wanted, but get them whilst you still can, hang onto it and enjoy the sound for years to come 😊
@@brianthegiant1 *DEVOLUTION
I hope Porsche can figure out how to make e fuel engines and i am quite sure everyone will love engines like These in a trist world of electric cars
Only Porsche can reduce Cayman GT4 overs market, by releasing a new normally aspirated Cayman GTS and end up selling even more cars, no wonder they are the most profitable car company in the world. I have a 991.2 GT3 and in love with it, but these gts normally aspirated cars are really appealing in a world if turbo charged cars. Great review as always Joe.
Haha aren't they amazing, other "premium" brands knocking 10-15% off list, Porsche can't produce enough to sell at/over list, means ownership (like yours) is massively painless 👌
Agreed!
We have a black one with gold wheels. Looks, sounds sublime and drives deliciously 🤓
What a spec!
Similar to Chris Harris ex-911touring. 😉
@@lollypop9580
That might have been a tiny influence 👍🏻
The car was in unregistered stock at the dealer on black wheels. Too much black!
We asked if they’d swap the Black / Satin Aurum wheels with the Night Blue 4.0 they also had, which they were fine to do, so the deal was done.
Always loved the JPS look 🤓
Mine is Aventurine green, subtle and suits the car. Sublime to drive. I don’t struggle with the gears, it’s my daily and I like that I can go hard in 1st and 2nd (and 3rd sometimes, sorry 👮♀️) but it’s quite relaxed if you short shift and it still pulls from low revs. I came to it from an M2, loved that as well but the Cayman is just so much more balanced with better feel in every aspect of the driving.
Nice Joe! Imagine how much fun it'd be with a close ratio box in there.
Would genuinely be the dream 🙌
I want the 2,5 or 2 liter 4 cylinder turbo because it is the sensible car with lower fuel consumption and better powerband with more low down grunt + good top power and can be tuned to 400 - 500hp easily, and they do actually sound really good at low rpm with the boxer 4 ruble like rolling thunder... But the scream of the boxer 6 is sooo addictive :)
Look forward to your comparison with your M2 comp Joe.
So happy we live in a time when these exist! That sound!
Really enjoyed the review of the GTS and the obvious enthusiasm you showed. So much so i have placed an order for a GTS, but with the PDK gearbox.
A review that brought across the passion for the brand and that particular model which was excellently portrayed.
Congrats on another great review - I've seen several of your posts recently and had no idea until today when I watched your 900mile on one tank epic drive what an amazing and positive C19 pivot you made from out of work chauffeur to doing this, I hope you enjoy the journey as much as it looks - you really are a natural at this. Keep up the great work Joe and you are an example to others on what passion mixed with determination and being prepaid to take a risk can achieve.
It was only last week I wondered why you haven’t done more Porsche! Awesome to see this with expectations for more more more more, thanks Joe!
Great review, Joe. I got one last November (Metallic Carrara White, light spec). The only thing I would add is that the BOSE turns out to be a waste of money. Consensus seems to be it is not a very good system but also with that engine, you really don't need it! Thank you again for the video.
BTW, the weight is with a full tank and driver.
The handling around the limit was well described Joe.
The car moved more as a whole, unless harshly provoked.
Driven normally, they feel light footed and scalpel like.
The 911 is more of a challenge, but normal roads stop you exploring them properly.
In a 911 speed, you are always managing one end, or the other. So unless you go fast enough to start mobilising the chassis, then they feel just too slammed and planted.
It’s why people often prefer a Cayman over a 911.
Just love the way they feel on the road 👌
A fun and comprehensive first look of an awesome Cayman, thank you 👍
Hello Joe, can you remember if this car was on stock sport suspension or optional raised -10mm PASM? You've been really helpful in the part in which you described ride quality so I'm wondering which suspension you were sitting on.. thanks!!
I've been falling in love with this car and I REALLY want the 4.0L but it's currently just as much as a GT4 and equally out of reach. I feel like I'm going to have to settle for the 2.5T and maybe upgrade in the future or something when there's more of these in the market and prices have settled.
Great video mate. I am struggling, I have an MX5, fantastic car, it's the like Cayman/Boxster's smaller sibling. It is such a blast to drive on tighter twisty roads but on regular roads not so much in my opinion.
The Bosxter GTS 4.0 is the one I am looking for and I think it's a good mix of everything, gives the option of driving it fast wherever possible, take the roof down and just cruise, can drive it on longer journeys etc.
What wouöd bother me long term is the gearing, the MX5 is great fun in that aspect it loves to review and the gearing is just perfect and due to lack of power the speed limit is not reached that fast 😆
I'll think I stick with the MX5 one more year and see what I'll do next year.
I've had 2 older cars and glad to see the pure drive back
Glorious car. Glorious sound. Heaven on Earth.
For Some reason, I love the Caymen. Its beautiful and Sounds Amazing. Its just Driving Pleasure
The passion you have for this car comes through on the video. I've been following you for some years now. Your recent videos are now on another level. I look forward to your new videos over some other creators that you may compare yourself to. Keep it up!!! Pls!!!
Thanks buddy appreciate the long term support and very kind words! I absolutely loved my few days with this car, reminded me Porsche do make the best drivers cars 👌
Epic review Joe! Seriously hoping these prices come down a tad in the next few years, definitely on my radar to replace my M2
Thanks man, yeah a great M2 replacement, but pricy at the mo as you say 👌
@@JoeAchilles1 the used GTS market is all over the place right now with 981’s starting to surpass the 2.5 718’s! Hoping the new GT4 RS will create less of a demand for the 4.0 GTS as more GT4’s will become available and people ‘upgrade’🤞🏼
This car gets about!
Haha UK press car 👌
Drop in a different final drive ratio and that car goes from excellent to epic!
I bet, although 6th will be too short on long motorway journeys... Small price to pay though I guess 👌
Did that on my E46 M3. It's will worth doing on NA cars with high rev limits...
If you do that you loose the low fuel consumption and top speed, diferent final ratio is not the solution here... Entire new gearbox with different ratios gears is the only thing that will fix it.
Excellent first impression review as always aswell.
Thanks Paul 👌
the GTS 4.0 is a proper Cayman. Great review of the GTS 4.0!
Really looking forward to the next video, loving the flat six sing.
Nice car. I've really been enjoying your reviews. Always look forward to them.
Thanks Oscar 👌
Older caymans are cool but the shape and look of the 981 and 718 is beautiful
What an excellent catch Joe! The GTS 4.0 is my pick for this new 982 Gen. Thoroughly enjoyed this, with very good detail! Must’ve been a huge joy to drive it. Excellent video once more Joe!
Thanks buddy 👌
My favorate car for ever!
The perfect car for a driving tour,
Right amount of power, right size, perfect 😎🤩.
Not sure about the colour mind!!
Totally agree mate, would LOVE this on a Petrolhead tour! As for the colour, it's basically your lambo mate 🤣😉👊
Python Green might be even better than Signal Green. What a car!
Agree, stunning!
Great car, I bet it's epic on that road!
Incredible 👌
Great to see Nick getting a mention!!
Another fantastic enjoyable review. Your videos are so slick and well put together. Keep up the good work.
Cheers Laurence.
Love your videos 😂 I wish you could upload every hour 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Thank you!
Hi Joe, I have a Boxter GTS, PDK because of the gearing. on order to go with my Tanzanite Blue, M3 that arrived this week. I think the Porsche will be one to collect as a last of an era. I love your video and your enthusiasm and cant wait to make that noise in my own.
I have a 2017 manual M2. I put a deposit down on a 718 GTS 4.0. Stoked. It feels like you are slicing the wind while taking corners. Sounds amazing.
Lucky you. Manual or PDK? Enjoy the Cayman 4.0 F6 before they make them electric.
@@stevecade857 PDK. Part of the negotiations with the wife on getting the car was to get a pdk so that she could drive it as well, so whatever we were going to buy it needed to be an upgrade. Still keeping my m2 though.
@@jacebeleren429 Because of the gearing she'd only need second gear and could probably pull away in that as well. It's an auto really. No need to change gear.
I test drove one yesterday. Fabulous car, just waiting for the figures from the dealership!
Spot on with cayman 987 comments. I got my cayman 987 base last year and it makes drivers with poor driving skills look like drivers with great driving skills. Driven may 100’s of car and nothing compares to the cayman not even the same era 911
Joe, you are the best car revewer i ever seen, serious videos and good explained. And i can see the pasion u feel for cars like me. Cheers from Catalonia! ;)
Hi from Singapore. Great video as usual mate. Not sure I could live with the Long gearing though
Thanks Richard!
Great video mate. Nice to see your doing Porsche now too. You have done well since me asking you all the questions on buying my 135i. Your a top guy. Good luck man :-) happy Easter. 👍
great review Joe! love that flat 6 symphony 🤤
Thanks buddy!
Man i love this car
I will literally cry when i get mine lol
Great first drive video Joe! Love the 718 GTS, great to see flat 6's back in the Boxster/Cayman line up. One of the remaining few great drivers cars of 2021 in my opinion.
I love your car journalism Joe
Great car, my first drive in a 6 pot cayman was on track at Porsche silverstone and my overwhelming thought was just how sharp a car it is to drive compared to my old slk 55 amg I had at the time, just a brilliant drivers car 🤙
Would love your views on Lotus. Some run out Lotus Exige 410/430 videos would be smashing! If you can fit in them that is
I would love to get some Lotus's on the channel, my only issue with them in the past is lack of leg and head space for my lanky frame...
Restores some of my faith in cars after some of the heavy stuff lately
Another top vid from Joe, yes I’ve said that before watching the whole video. Standards high as always
Thank you ♥️
Not much of a fan of porsche's until the cayman was introduced that is pound for pound the best porsche.
Wonderful video. Nothing better than a high revving NA motor and a manual. I know your forte is German metal, but you should get your hands on an Elise, Exige or Evora before they end production this year.
Good job, friendly and authentic presentation. First time viewer here, I saw you from Carwow in the past. Also, as a 2021 992 Carrera S owner, I am thinking of trading in for a 2022 Cayman GTS 4.0 PDK model. Not sure if you would recommend me going that route?
Another great video Joe 👍 Really enjoying your content atm- keep them coming! Working for the Dick Lovett group I get to drive all the different BMW’s you review, I have only driven a few different Porsches recently and when you said ‘you have to drive one to know what they are like’ I can really relate to that, they are like nothing else- razor sharp 👌🏼 Awesome cars!!
Just a shame Porsche have deliberately hold it back so it’s not better than a 911
Now this is a proper car unlike the New BMW M3&M4 great review by the way.
Great review! I don't mind the longer gearing of my mechanically similar 718 Spyder.. 2nd gear makes it an absolute weapon for overtaking. There is plenty of torque and I easily find myself using the first 4 ratios for the hell of it on a back road. A Cargraphic Valve control unit is a must though.. lots of nice flat six noise to savour between 2k and 4k RPM. GTS/GT4 are epic!
Love the car very sportly very fast
Great vid as always, Joe. 🙌 Like many others, I’d love to hear how you feel it compares to your M2 Comp, and perhaps more poignantly given the price, a CS.
Cheers Jon, my next GTS video talks about my M2 comp compared to this etc.
....looking forward to 3rd or maybe even 4th gear, next Cayman GTS video Joe! :)
Just a quick correction: It was V4 not a Boxer 4 the 718 has as its engine. Had alot of tech from the 919 Hybrid racecar but didnt sound anything impressive with the filters on.
Ohh I didn't know that, very interesting facts! Thank you, will repeat that when I have another 718 👌
@@JoeAchilles1 Anytime Joe! Its a very very clever little engine but with the wrong utilisation. Worth watching this on Drivetribe: th-cam.com/video/LkYxdT7Ovtw/w-d-xo.html
Great review Joe! Would you trade in a manual 997 C2 GTS for this 718 GTS 4.0?
You made me buy an m2c Joe. Now you make me want to buy this. Time to start saving 😂
Nice feature! I drove the Boxster equivalent on my channel recently and loved it. There was only one thing, I felt the steering was great but lacked a little feel. Seemed setup slightly more for comfort than feedback... But, I may have been spoiled having driven a Nismo tuned 370z then an R8GT right before. Still, great car!
Thanks for the review. Sounds good, but I think that I’d miss the pops and crackles of the 981 GTS.
That comment about the gear ratios reminds me that in my original 986 anniversary Boxster second gear was good for 74mph, third 106. Sadly no longer driving a Porsche
Yeah I remember my ex's 981 Boxster has a similar issue, 2nd was good for 80mph odd
www.carscoops.com/2020/05/porsche-admits-the-cayman-gt4s-gearing-is-too-long/
Nice one Joe. Looking forward to the summer weather for all the videos! Is this over Wantage way again? Recognise the rusty tank and graffiti
Cheers buddy me too mate! Yeah near Wantage 👌
Great review pal!
Thanks buddy 👊
Great work as always. 👍
Someone somewhere must have a shorter final drive sorted for these cars. I recently went from a 3.15 to a 3.73 and it just brings a car alive (E91 330i)
Caymans are so sick! I'd rather have this than a 911.
Yeah love them too 👌
Awesome review Joe
Great car. However, at the moment a lightly used 981 GT4 is the better buy. That's won't always be the case as GT4 prices are creeping back up. If you have to buy new, yep GTS. If you don't, GT4. Love mine!
What a beautiful car
Great vid Joe 👍🏼
I own a 718 S and I don't know what the fuss is about, it's a fantastic car. I like the characteristic of the turbo combined with the PDK and there's nothing wrong with the sound it makes, it's just different to the GTS. If I want amazing sound, I just take the 928 for a drive instead.
A 4 litre flat 6 in a Cayman, you don't know what the fuss is about? The regular 718 Cayman and Cayman S are brilliant cars, but a proper engine brings so much character to the package.
@@JoeAchilles1 If only we could explore that character without going to the track. I look forward to the full review.
@@JoeAchilles1 Honestly Joe a $1200 USD exhaust fixes that. Add a tune and you are easily running with 911s in the 2.5L. Can't do that with the 4.0L. In any case, both brilliant cars, leaps beyond my M240i I still daily. Cheers and thanks for the review!
Top! This is what I want! Only different green 😀🙏
Iam surprised Porsche didn't add a low ratio box (with a still tall 6th gear for motorway/ freeway/ autobahn cruising) on the option list
Add it for £1200 along with auto blip, they would sell 90% of them so equipped and increase there bottom line.
what a glorious car. if only they made a revision with a slightly more aggressive gear ratio on the manual gearbox. else it really can only shine on the track, and I bet a MX5/GT86 is more fun on the street if you want to keep your license
Hi Joe, nice review, quick question, if you had to choose between this Cayman GTS and an M3 competition as a second car (not taking into account the fact that you have an M3), what would you choose ?
Love the videos! Hope you get to buy a gt car one day!
Thanks man, me too mate 👌
Love it. Even though Porsche are taking the Mick with some of the options, even if it comes in at £75K it’s still less than a base 911. Know which I’d take... 👌🏁
Rad car!
The initial rev does mean a thing.😂😂😂
Light flywheel and reciprocating mass. That’s always good in a built engine 😂😎🤓🍀🇦🇺🤜🏼🤛🏼
8:50 😂😂😂 you're at the man Joe.
😂
Great review as always. What would you say is the biggest difference between this and m3 (manual)? Which would you pick between the two?
Another great video Joe any updates on the m3 arrival, and are you still keeping the mighty m2 competition???
Never compare an m2 against the cayman gts although im a bmw fanboy
Great video Joe, does it pull well in 3rd and 4th at low speeds, if it does I’m guessing it’s acceptable. Although the 2.0 engines lack sole they drove really well.
Thanks buddy! It doesn't pull as hard as the 2.5 GTS did low down in gears, but still not bad and certainly quick enough for most situations.
It’s much slower than the 4T low down in any gear. At about 5,500 revs they are about equal. Above 5,500 revs the 6NA is quicker. Not a fun way to drive everywhere - on a track would be fine.
The 4.0 has way more pull low down than the 4T cars!
Tickover to a bit over 2k feels really meaty buy comparison.
The 2.5T is dead down there!
The 4.0 is a joy to potter about in at low speeds short shifting.
As mentioned though, from 2k-5k the 2.5T feels faster, until the 4.0 can breath deeply and sing to the redline.
So good that if you scratch the paint you might find underneath a BMW logo 😁
🤣🤣🤣👌
That sound!!
718 or 911..... Decisions decisions...
I'm at a loss... 2 seater or 2+2 with unusable back seats ... 😍 Love them both - Coin flip I think 🙃
Sounds like they "diddled" the gearbox to hamper the 0-60 time from competing with something more expensive from their own range.
www.carscoops.com/2020/05/porsche-admits-the-cayman-gt4s-gearing-is-too-long/
Best car Porsche make today . Be a huge distance .