I recently received this Tascam 12 as a random gift and have been contemplating the most effective ways to utilize it and enhance my overall setup. My primary speaker is an old Beats Boombox Gen 1 that has been my go-to speaker for years!
I just got the Tascam 12. I've been away from recording for 8 years or so and found homes for my DA88s and Mackie 1604s. I do still have a Tascam 488 (In the box with manuals) but as I was putting it on line I started to rethink the learning curve to get back to where I was with it in 1993 and pivoted to the 12. What good are all of those CRO2 masters anyway? I like this little guy and as an IT professional I appreciate the evolution of the HW and SW. I'll keep watching your channel and ramp up on the tricks and traps of this unit. Thanx
I think it is a cool situation to record your tracks to the portastudio and get the tape saturation and bounce to the 12 to get the modern flexibility of the new unit.
In 1998 I saved up $800 cad washing dishes to buy my TASCAM 424 MkIII. Funny because I wanted the MkII but they didn't make it anymore. I now use TASCAM Model 12
Wish it had more channels. I used them all up on just drums. So i have to bounce that mix and keep the drums as a final mix and record the rest to fit the mix of the drums.
I hear ya, tyler. I kind of wish I'd gotten the 16 or 24 sometimes. The tracks get used up quick and I'm not even recording drums. Bouncing down can have some advantages, though, It keeps the session moving and forces commitment to the sounds but I could see it also being frustrating if you want to go back and fix something
That is the exact issue I'm having. 7 drum mics on channels 1-7. Record drums to those. Bouncing down to stereo you have to have the mix just right or like you said then you have to work the other instruments around the untweakable individual drum tracks. So what I think I'll have to do is take the 7 drum tracks and import them into a DAW. Right now I have Traction Waveform and GarageBand on my 2011 iMac. I could go in and record the other tracks in the DAW either using the Model 12 as an audio interface or my Behringer Tube Ultragain Mic500 preamp which has an XLR (with a phantom button) or in the l/r trs jacks which the left is a High Z. Then take the tracks back into the Model 12 to mix and send to master. I also have a Behringer Eurorack MX 802A mixing board I could incorporate also. And I've thought of maybe laying the final mix on to a cassette before sending to master for that analog warmth. While I wish I could afford the Model 24 which would allow for true all in one multi-tracking to just the desk unit, I also want to get my podcast going again which the Model 12 is good for also. Too bad you can't daisy chain and sync 2 Model 12's like you can with the Zoom R12. That would be badass. 16 XLR inputs you can simultaneously record to its own track. And then 4 stereo tracks. And if using one as the main in the DAW having to use channels 1 and 2 for the DAW return from the PC would still leave enough of the other XLR channels free to truly multi-track to just the Model 12's.
Curious if you’d had the chance to compare the mic pres and conversion to that in the Apollo. Really interested in this unit. Curious about the sound quality !:) thanks!
i was wondering that. Im getting rid of my scarlet 2i2 and getting model 12, im sick of having to plug and unplug all my instruments when Im jamming/recording, I wanna just bring up a fader and add another part.
got a model 12 in July and same as you, I've set my cassette recorder aside. I never made the jump to DAW recording so i guess I'm a weirdo because everybody looks at me confused when i tell them it. Today i got an ART VLA pro ii compressor and tried it a little. I need to boost the signal with a pre-amp to get the signal hotter, I do have that little ART tube pre-amp and am going to try driving the signal hotter to get a better signal than the first a temp at trying this out.
Hey, bun! I remember you saying you've gotten the 12. Nah, I feel like that's par for the course. I luckily got started with SoundForge and ACID back in the 2000s around the time I was introduced to the 424, so I kind of learned the technologies in tandem. I think there's a lot of people out there who never got into DAW recording. Idk if you have a Mac but I think Garageband is the most user friendly DAW for starting out, or at least it used to be. I remember having the same need for a preamp with the VLA. The tube pre should get you there! That's what I used to use, too! Cheers, thanks for watching, and happy recording!
DAWs sucks anyway. They're either too expensive or even don't work at all in some cases with the free ones. I've tried several free ones that don't work at all. One of them that works best of all the free ones I've tried - Audacity - sucks because none of the tracks are in sync & it's near impossible to get everything in sync, so it's useless if you're recording multiple tracks. Been wanting the model 12 but I just have to save up before I can afford it. I've been using a 424mkiii I bought new years ago, but it recently took a crap on me. It still works but everything sounds terrible no matter how I EQ it before or after laying down a track...no matter what I do nothing sounds even decent on it, though I've made some great recordings over the years.
Hey thanks so much for this video. I'm thinking about a Model 12 and how it could work with my Apollo Duo. So the way yours is routed into the stereo channel.. how would you go about multitrack recording with it? Can you assign the line in to record to different tracks as you work? Or would you need to physically switch to the line in to other mono channels as you go? Also, is the excellent preamp quality of the Apollo being degraded by passing it through the pre amps of the Tascam before being recorded onboard or in the DAW do you think?
Hey man, is it possible to hear stereo sound from 7/8 and 9/10 through the headphone output? I only get sound on the right on 7/8 and no sound on 9/10.
Why are you routing the sound from your pc via the onboard soundcard while Tascam 12 can be used as a USB audio interface? Isn't that a bit of a waste of two perfectly fine channels?
you should be able to Bluetooth audio from your windows machine. No cables and a clean signal. I use the Model 24 (on chans 21/22) Bluetooth from my windows machine and USB to my Mac as an interface to Logic
hey buddy. Simpe question over here. What advatages to you have adding the apollo twin intertface as the main interaface and then sending the audio to the tascam? I have the tascam an im planning on using it as an interfafe and eliminate the use of the apollo twin. what adnatages are there for buying one? ive been getting allot of recomentations but havent really gotten a clear justification.
Hey, thanks for letting us in your studio! I work with hardware as well and currently use Tascam DP-008EX but it's probably better for on-the-job recording. It's 2 tracks of simultaneous recording is really limiting. This Model 12 looks like it could be a good upgrade and a solution for a mixer, which I need to use a rack mounted compressor for sidechain!
Hello Great Video, But I really need to understand why do you still use the Appolo whereas using the tascam direct? Is it a latence issue? The compression and sounding of the mike which is better on the appolp? the clock? Thank You.
Really like your channel...kind of watching "Back to the Future" on a large flat screen:). Here's one wish for a future video: I recently bought the Tascam Model 24, but I am still not sure if I am going to keep it or buy the Model 12 ( seems more singer\songwriter type, though it's sadly not analog like the 16 and 24).. . Anyway, here's the thing: if I record a track on the SD card and then send this playback track to my hardware compressor ( on the playback channel press the sub button and then from sub out to compressor input and from compressor output to another input channel of the model12), it works perfect... I can afterwards blend the first track together with the compressed track and it sounds clear and beautiful. ...The big problem is when using the model as an interface...when I playback a recorded track from my daw on the model and do the same thing ( like I do when recording on the SD card) , meaning here that I record the compressed track on a new track in my daw, the next step is always a pain in the ass. Cause when I try to blend the two tracks together in the daw there's always a phasing sound ...I always thought that's a latency issue so I zoomed the two tracks in the daw and tried to fit them as good as I can...but it still doesn't sound like on the SD card...i would really appreciate it if you could solve that problems for us...cause I know that there is a lot of people out there who try to use analog mixer and gear and combine it with the digital world..... Sorry for my nearly perfect English, but I had to miss some English lessons back at school time, cause my 424 needed a lot of attention back in that days
Hi Helge, I haven't dived into using the Model as an interface yet. I think the best advice I could give would be to split the signal before you run it to the 12. One signal goes to the 12, the other goes into your hardware compressor and back to a new track. Let me know how it shakes out
@@424Recording thanks for your response... that's a good idea...of course it would only work during the recording process... meaning I would still have the same problem if I want to compress an already recorded track....I'm still hoping...
Nice video. I was all ready to purchase the Tascam Model 24 but found out they only have a 90 day warranty and thought if they don’t believe in their product that’s enough to make me look elsewhere! Bummer
I wanna live in a "perfect" world where I can use my 414 forever :D But if the time comes, I'll probably get the model 12 or something similar for recording DAWless. What you've shown is a great use of it, I love it when people find unusual ways to get advantage of their gear!
Yeah, this is another reason I wanted to get one, re: 424. 2/3 of mine have issues and I feel like it's only a matter of time for the 3rd one. Not to say that they can't be fixed but the 12 works very similarly. I can sketch out ideas or demo a track and then use the 424 for the final recording once I know what I want to record. It'll put the 424 through less use. Thanks, Yellow. Cheers. I hope the Fall Song Challenge is going well for you!
@@424Recording Recording a demo and thus practicing the parts is very clever to do digitally on the 12, nice. I usually freeball it and end up using the precious machine way too much :D I still need to record a guitar solo and vocals on mine (plus the lyrics are not finished), how's your song going so far?
Yeah. I'm stingy when it comes to using my 424 believe it or not. With the computer/digital recorders, it's made it easy to loop parts and record a draft first. I started one track that was not what I was thinking of doing. I might use that one if nothing else develops. It's just bass, drums, and vocals at the moment... might be ripe for a 4-track version! I'm glad to hear it is going well!
Thanks, Yellow! Well, what actually happened is the new update to Logic doesn't work well on my computer, so i was only able to record 3-4 tracks before it won't play the track back. So that was kind of the unusual thing that happened that got me going!
hi there, i'm a little confused, can we assign plugin parameters in a daw to knobs in tascam just like in a standard midi controller. i was planning to use it like a dj mixer, but if we can't assign for example a dj eq tool in a daw to the knobs in tascam, it is pretty useless to me. thanks in advance for your support.
Stupid question of which I cannot seem to find a straight answer. How many usb (computer out) track can you record on the flash card. I have gotten where I like to track everything live with both Ableton and the musicians in the room and then just fix the screwups. I would like to be able to do this without recording into Ableton. Which works but could be less fussy. When I do this now I usually export to logic x to tidy and mix. Thanks for any information.
YES! Please do a thorough comparison between the Portastudio and Model 12. I have been wanting a 414 but since the Model 12 came out well, now I’m not so sure. I do want to record final mixes to tape at some point.
Coming up! Thanks for the feedback, Communicator. You could get a Model 12 and a 2 channel bounce down deck. Any pro/consumer deck would probably do if you just want to run the final mix to cassette
Thanks! That’s what I was thinking. I was also wondering if I would be missing out though on any good “warmth” options though by running audio through the 414/424? Does the Model 12 have a characteristic sound? Would be great to see it addressed in the video.
Yeah, the 424/414 have great sounding preamps that sound killer when distorted. Obviously, also the cassette tape sound. The Model 12 is clean sounding. I'll be making that comparison video soon!
I'm using the stereo tracks for my PC and Mac audio. I like the option of panning drum sounds left and right on the Digi and then being able to record them soloed on each track for mixing. Like I said in the vid though, I wish I had more of those stereo tracks!
@@424Recording It's a cool looking thing, I think it would be a good solution for the church. I might suggest the Model 16 though. I'll have to investigate.
I'm thinking of getting the Model 12 for songwriting and covers. Do you know if this will work with Studio One DAW as I don't see it listed in the literature, Love your setup and sounds like the Model 12 would be very useful for my needs, Thanks for your great share!
I'm not sure. I believe it uses the Mackie software in conjunction with a DAW so the thing to check is if that software is compatible with Studio One. Thanks for watching! Yeah! It really is a cool machine
Hello - can you provide a diagram for clarity, please? I think I have it, and could play around with it, but.... Also, are you using the 12 as a preamp or as a recording device? Thanks in advance...
Diagram for the inputs/outputs? I have the monitors hooked up to the outputs, and then running all of the audio and instruments into the inputs of the mixer. Depending on the situation, I'm either playing audio thru the Model 12, or recording the instruments through the inputs
as someone coming from the world of daws and getting into hardware, this is also exactly what ive been looking for. also so stoked i found your channel
I just started recording at home again and am planning on using a new digital 12 channel Teac mixer into Studio One. Once I have everything recorded and sounding the way I want I’m going to play it back into the room through my system because that’s when it usually sounds the best. Then I’ll use my Ribbon mic to record the mastered song into a 1968 Teac 3 mixer and from there into a cassette. The deck recording will then be fed back into the computer. I’m assuming they recorded a lot like this in the 50’s but I can’t really find out much about this method. I thought of this method because I do it all the time with my cell phone. Any suggestions?
Hello how are you doing I just buy tascam model 12 ,the problem is that I’m always record it using irig2 with this one I can’t make it works if you know can you please help me out where I can coneted or make it work.
It appears you are not using the usb interface which would send audio to and from the mixer digitally from computer. Also you can make osx usb host and remote desktop into Windows freeing up more channel and cabels
This is just great material, thank you!! I am so close to getting one So for example can I run a guitar/bass through all of the tracks or is it only 1 and 2 that have instrument inputs?
Hey man, you can run electro acoustic guitar through all the tracks but bass and electric just through 1 and 2. Although with a D I box you can run electric and bass into them all, can get not bad ones for next to pennies
Channels 1-10 can all accept guitar/bass direct in. You just have to hit the INST button on the corresponding channel. Check out page 25 of the manual: tascam.com/downloads/products/tascam/model_12/efs_model12_om_vc.pdf
Oh, interesting, Craig. I did not know that, re: 24. It'd be awesome to be able to check them all out side by side. There seems to be different functionality between the 3
@@424Recording yeah man, i think the model 16 and 24 are basically the same just the 16 a smaller version, the 12 has more digital features, has midi in and out the model 24 doesn’t also the model 12 you can set the eq post or pre, you cant print the eq on the model 24 its post the the compressor but pre eq
Hey, just bought a 424 MKIII and when I turn it on the pinch roller starts to spins and none of the buttons do anything. I have not even tried to put a tape in it yet. Any idea what could be wrong?
Hi, have you use the model 12 midi time clock as a master from midi out to midi in of a drum machine as slave for syncing? If yes does the drum machine drift during model 12's stop and play?
@@424Recordingthanks for your response. I appreciate your help and advice as I am keen on the model 12 and the manual was not clear on synchronisation between the model 12 and an external drum machine device via midi using midi time clock of the model 12 as a master.
@@424Recording I hear ya, man. Hey, I know how it is. I guess the good thing about the Tascam is that it's quite portable. You could record drums anywhere.
Hey Mike.. Please read this.. My 424 burnt up on the fort three inputs..do you know anywhere or one that can fix it? I van still run line in in the back but that's the only way to record.. Thank you..and get ableton for your home studio
Hey, SAJ. Where do you live? There are a couple repair shops that are known depending on your location. I used to have an FAQ with them. I'll see if I can find them or add them to the Discord
Are the equalizers or compressors analogue? Also, is there any way to output individual channels’ signals? I’m looking at using this for its preamps and for its channel strip, but NOT as an interface. I could switch between interfaces, but i thought it would be cool to have 2 gain stages for capture, so that i could drive the model 12 preamps hard, and decrease the input gain at my interface. I’ll appreciate answers if anyone can help. Thanks!
You might want to look into the Model 16 or the 24. As far as I know, those are analog mixers. The 12 has some other things going on under the hood that makes it a digital mixer. I would try to find an older mixer if you want to distort it: any of the old 4-track preamps sound great distorted and there's all sort of old mixing consoles that can sound great distorted. Good luck!
Hey, interesting. Hope this question is not too trivial.. do you leave all this gear set-up/out all the time, and if so, how do you combat dust? Maybe it’s just my place but dust is everywhere! Im going to check the model 12.
Yeah, it is out all the time. The best way to combat dust is to get a paint brush. Get a soft bristled one from the hardware store (splurge a little on a good one) and whenever you see some dust accumulate, paint brush it away! I mean I guess it's just getting pushed around but it won't be on the machines. Thanks for watching
Yeah, he actually was. After he got his knee folded back about 90 degrees the wrong way in the Rose Bowl, while convalescing he discovered 4-tracking. I'm not sure which 4-track he used though
So you're using other audio interfaces with the Model 12, which is itself an interface? Interesting. Could you say more about the benefits this has on your signal chain/workflow?
Mine broke before I could use it .all I did was pull out the usb and it striped the board too shreds ? It’s happens too a few peaple I noticed? I don’t even know what too do now ? Figure out how to use it with out usb ? What a load of bollocks be careful pulling dat usb out , I would just leave it there my advice
It depends on the user. People who use multitrack recorders, mixers, and who do live sound will be feel right at home using one of these; if they're coming from a DAW, though, there will be a learning curve for sure
I recently received this Tascam 12 as a random gift and have been contemplating the most effective ways to utilize it and enhance my overall setup. My primary speaker is an old Beats Boombox Gen 1 that has been my go-to speaker for years!
Still have my Tascam Porta One, bought at Manny’s in 1988 ($499 I think). Transports need a hug, but it still works.
I’ve ordered the model 12 and it arrives tomorrow! Literally well chuffed. Can’t wait to delve into it!
I just got the Tascam 12. I've been away from recording for 8 years or so and found homes for my DA88s and Mackie 1604s. I do still have a Tascam 488 (In the box with manuals) but as I was putting it on line I started to rethink the learning curve to get back to where I was with it in 1993 and pivoted to the 12. What good are all of those CRO2 masters anyway? I like this little guy and as an IT professional I appreciate the evolution of the HW and SW. I'll keep watching your channel and ramp up on the tricks and traps of this unit. Thanx
Haven't heard someone say CRO2 in decades!
I think it is a cool situation to record your tracks to the portastudio and get the tape saturation and bounce to the 12 to get the modern flexibility of the new unit.
same camp..i have been on all types of tascam multi track tape recorders and just a month ago wanted the other tascam
excellent to hear! I still haven't pulled the trigger on the model 16 but it's great to see your set up and work flow!
Thanks, Made on Tape 👍
Model 16 and 24 are not daw controllers.
@@ΟΟύτις crap, really? Well here I am 9 months later and haven't needed on yet!
neat sweater, Mike!
Thanks, Khai! My wife knit it for me haha
my goal with a model 12 is to get rid of my scarlet 2i2 and have all of my main instruments plugged in at al times into ableton.
In 1998 I saved up $800 cad washing dishes to buy my TASCAM 424 MkIII. Funny because I wanted the MkII but they didn't make it anymore. I now use TASCAM Model 12
Wish it had more channels. I used them all up on just drums. So i have to bounce that mix and keep the drums as a final mix and record the rest to fit the mix of the drums.
I hear ya, tyler. I kind of wish I'd gotten the 16 or 24 sometimes. The tracks get used up quick and I'm not even recording drums. Bouncing down can have some advantages, though, It keeps the session moving and forces commitment to the sounds but I could see it also being frustrating if you want to go back and fix something
That is the exact issue I'm having. 7 drum mics on channels 1-7. Record drums to those. Bouncing down to stereo you have to have the mix just right or like you said then you have to work the other instruments around the untweakable individual drum tracks. So what I think I'll have to do is take the 7 drum tracks and import them into a DAW. Right now I have Traction Waveform and GarageBand on my 2011 iMac. I could go in and record the other tracks in the DAW either using the Model 12 as an audio interface or my Behringer Tube Ultragain Mic500 preamp which has an XLR (with a phantom button) or in the l/r trs jacks which the left is a High Z. Then take the tracks back into the Model 12 to mix and send to master. I also have a Behringer Eurorack MX 802A mixing board I could incorporate also. And I've thought of maybe laying the final mix on to a cassette before sending to master for that analog warmth. While I wish I could afford the Model 24 which would allow for true all in one multi-tracking to just the desk unit, I also want to get my podcast going again which the Model 12 is good for also.
Too bad you can't daisy chain and sync 2 Model 12's like you can with the Zoom R12. That would be badass. 16 XLR inputs you can simultaneously record to its own track. And then 4 stereo tracks. And if using one as the main in the DAW having to use channels 1 and 2 for the DAW return from the PC would still leave enough of the other XLR channels free to truly multi-track to just the Model 12's.
I always wondered why you replaced the tape recorders for the model 12. I’m looking forward for the comparison between them!
Thanks, Grisi. I hope this video answered that question!
FIRST! I'm going to look at getting one for the church, we got a donation for upgrading our a/v stuff and we can use it for our concerts.
Do it up, Mike! You might even want to look into the other models depending on your needs
Curious if you’d had the chance to compare the mic pres and conversion to that in the Apollo. Really interested in this unit. Curious about the sound quality !:) thanks!
Can I ask why you still use an audio interface instead if using the tascam itself?
i was wondering that. Im getting rid of my scarlet 2i2 and getting model 12, im sick of having to plug and unplug all my instruments when Im jamming/recording, I wanna just bring up a fader and add another part.
got a model 12 in July and same as you, I've set my cassette recorder aside. I never made the jump to DAW recording so i guess I'm a weirdo because everybody looks at me confused when i tell them it. Today i got an ART VLA pro ii compressor and tried it a little. I need to boost the signal with a pre-amp to get the signal hotter, I do have that little ART tube pre-amp and am going to try driving the signal hotter to get a better signal than the first a temp at trying this out.
Hey, bun! I remember you saying you've gotten the 12. Nah, I feel like that's par for the course. I luckily got started with SoundForge and ACID back in the 2000s around the time I was introduced to the 424, so I kind of learned the technologies in tandem. I think there's a lot of people out there who never got into DAW recording. Idk if you have a Mac but I think Garageband is the most user friendly DAW for starting out, or at least it used to be. I remember having the same need for a preamp with the VLA. The tube pre should get you there! That's what I used to use, too! Cheers, thanks for watching, and happy recording!
DAWs sucks anyway. They're either too expensive or even don't work at all in some cases with the free ones. I've tried several free ones that don't work at all. One of them that works best of all the free ones I've tried - Audacity - sucks because none of the tracks are in sync & it's near impossible to get everything in sync, so it's useless if you're recording multiple tracks.
Been wanting the model 12 but I just have to save up before I can afford it.
I've been using a 424mkiii I bought new years ago, but it recently took a crap on me. It still works but everything sounds terrible no matter how I EQ it before or after laying down a track...no matter what I do nothing sounds even decent on it, though I've made some great recordings over the years.
Does your setup require any of the devices being ground-lifted?
Nice sweater!
Thanks!
Hey thanks so much for this video. I'm thinking about a Model 12 and how it could work with my Apollo Duo. So the way yours is routed into the stereo channel.. how would you go about multitrack recording with it? Can you assign the line in to record to different tracks as you work? Or would you need to physically switch to the line in to other mono channels as you go? Also, is the excellent preamp quality of the Apollo being degraded by passing it through the pre amps of the Tascam before being recorded onboard or in the DAW do you think?
Great vid and I like your calm presenting style :) What is the computer keyboard you have there? The colours are niiiiice!
Hey man, is it possible to hear stereo sound from 7/8 and 9/10 through the headphone output? I only get sound on the right on 7/8 and no sound on 9/10.
Yeah. I use those for my PC and Mac audio respectively. Might be routing?
Why are you routing the sound from your pc via the onboard soundcard while Tascam 12 can be used as a USB audio interface? Isn't that a bit of a waste of two perfectly fine channels?
Can you please explain what you mean by this I just bought a model 12
Closest point of contact with a dash of pre amp cream.
you should be able to Bluetooth audio from your windows machine. No cables and a clean signal. I use the Model 24 (on chans 21/22) Bluetooth from my windows machine and USB to my Mac as an interface to Logic
I'll have to check this out! Thanks, Donald!
hey buddy. Simpe question over here. What advatages to you have adding the apollo twin intertface as the main interaface and then sending the audio to the tascam? I have the tascam an im planning on using it as an interfafe and eliminate the use of the apollo twin. what adnatages are there for buying one? ive been getting allot of recomentations but havent really gotten a clear justification.
Better preamps, cleaner sound coming from the Apollo into the Tascam 12
Hey, thanks for letting us in your studio! I work with hardware as well and currently use Tascam DP-008EX but it's probably better for on-the-job recording. It's 2 tracks of simultaneous recording is really limiting.
This Model 12 looks like it could be a good upgrade and a solution for a mixer, which I need to use a rack mounted compressor for sidechain!
Hello Great Video, But I really need to understand why do you still use the Appolo whereas using the tascam direct? Is it a latence issue? The compression and sounding of the mike which is better on the appolp? the clock? Thank You.
How can you use the M12 as a switch when it only has one main out (2 x XLR (L/R))? Do you mean switching between the main/sub/aux?
Really like your channel...kind of watching "Back to the Future" on a large flat screen:). Here's one wish for a future video: I recently bought the Tascam Model 24, but I am still not sure if I am going to keep it or buy the Model 12 ( seems more singer\songwriter type, though it's sadly not analog like the 16 and 24).. . Anyway, here's the thing: if I record a track on the SD card and then send this playback track to my hardware compressor ( on the playback channel press the sub button and then from sub out to compressor input and from compressor output to another input channel of the model12), it works perfect... I can afterwards blend the first track together with the compressed track and it sounds clear and beautiful. ...The big problem is when using the model as an interface...when I playback a recorded track from my daw on the model and do the same thing ( like I do when recording on the SD card) , meaning here that I record the compressed track on a new track in my daw, the next step is always a pain in the ass. Cause when I try to blend the two tracks together in the daw there's always a phasing sound ...I always thought that's a latency issue so I zoomed the two tracks in the daw and tried to fit them as good as I can...but it still doesn't sound like on the SD card...i would really appreciate it if you could solve that problems for us...cause I know that there is a lot of people out there who try to use analog mixer and gear and combine it with the digital world.....
Sorry for my nearly perfect English, but I had to miss some English lessons back at school time, cause my 424 needed a lot of attention back in that days
Hi Helge, I haven't dived into using the Model as an interface yet. I think the best advice I could give would be to split the signal before you run it to the 12. One signal goes to the 12, the other goes into your hardware compressor and back to a new track. Let me know how it shakes out
@@424Recording thanks for your response... that's a good idea...of course it would only work during the recording process... meaning I would still have the same problem if I want to compress an already recorded track....I'm still hoping...
Nice video. I was all ready to purchase the Tascam Model 24 but found out they only have a 90 day warranty and thought if they don’t believe in their product that’s enough to make me look elsewhere! Bummer
Dang, that sucks. I did not know that
What's with the 'Strap On' 57?
I wanna live in a "perfect" world where I can use my 414 forever :D But if the time comes, I'll probably get the model 12 or something similar for recording DAWless. What you've shown is a great use of it, I love it when people find unusual ways to get advantage of their gear!
Yeah, this is another reason I wanted to get one, re: 424. 2/3 of mine have issues and I feel like it's only a matter of time for the 3rd one. Not to say that they can't be fixed but the 12 works very similarly. I can sketch out ideas or demo a track and then use the 424 for the final recording once I know what I want to record. It'll put the 424 through less use. Thanks, Yellow. Cheers. I hope the Fall Song Challenge is going well for you!
@@424Recording Recording a demo and thus practicing the parts is very clever to do digitally on the 12, nice. I usually freeball it and end up using the precious machine way too much :D I still need to record a guitar solo and vocals on mine (plus the lyrics are not finished), how's your song going so far?
Yeah. I'm stingy when it comes to using my 424 believe it or not. With the computer/digital recorders, it's made it easy to loop parts and record a draft first. I started one track that was not what I was thinking of doing. I might use that one if nothing else develops. It's just bass, drums, and vocals at the moment... might be ripe for a 4-track version! I'm glad to hear it is going well!
@@424Recording You can do it, Mike! Maybe try taking it into another direction or use something unusual that breaks you out of the box :)
Thanks, Yellow! Well, what actually happened is the new update to Logic doesn't work well on my computer, so i was only able to record 3-4 tracks before it won't play the track back. So that was kind of the unusual thing that happened that got me going!
Can you use two of the mono channels as a stereo channel?
hi can you show me how to use it mainly karoke? what set up would i need to have it in?
hi there, i'm a little confused, can we assign plugin parameters in a daw to knobs in tascam just like in a standard midi controller. i was planning to use it like a dj mixer, but if we can't assign for example a dj eq tool in a daw to the knobs in tascam, it is pretty useless to me. thanks in advance for your support.
so if i want to make a live set with with the daw and add some individual analog instrument the tascam will works as a chanal splitter ?
Stupid question of which I cannot seem to find a straight answer.
How many usb (computer out) track can you record on the flash card.
I have gotten where I like to track everything live with both Ableton and the musicians in the room and then just fix the screwups.
I would like to be able to do this without recording into Ableton.
Which works but could be less fussy.
When I do this now I usually export to logic x to tidy and mix.
Thanks for any information.
YES! Please do a thorough comparison between the Portastudio and Model 12. I have been wanting a 414 but since the Model 12 came out well, now I’m not so sure. I do want to record final mixes to tape at some point.
Coming up! Thanks for the feedback, Communicator. You could get a Model 12 and a 2 channel bounce down deck. Any pro/consumer deck would probably do if you just want to run the final mix to cassette
Thanks! That’s what I was thinking. I was also wondering if I would be missing out though on any good “warmth” options though by running audio through the 414/424? Does the Model 12 have a characteristic sound? Would be great to see it addressed in the video.
Yeah, the 424/414 have great sounding preamps that sound killer when distorted. Obviously, also the cassette tape sound. The Model 12 is clean sounding. I'll be making that comparison video soon!
It could send signal to Ableton via USB to separated channels?
Yeah, I believe so. You can use it as a DAW control surface
Such a great content! Very informative and tips are helpful!:)
Thanks so much!
I'm surprised you aren't running the digitakt on the stereo inputs to keep the mono channels for other things
I'm using the stereo tracks for my PC and Mac audio. I like the option of panning drum sounds left and right on the Digi and then being able to record them soloed on each track for mixing. Like I said in the vid though, I wish I had more of those stereo tracks!
@@424Recording It's a cool looking thing, I think it would be a good solution for the church. I might suggest the Model 16 though. I'll have to investigate.
It's got a lot of great uses
Great video! What's the point of the Apollo Twin if you have the Tascam 12?
I use the Model 12 as a standalone recorder
I'm thinking of getting the Model 12 for songwriting and covers. Do you know if this will work with Studio One DAW as I don't see it listed in the literature, Love your setup and sounds like the Model 12 would be very useful for my needs, Thanks for your great share!
I'm not sure. I believe it uses the Mackie software in conjunction with a DAW so the thing to check is if that software is compatible with Studio One. Thanks for watching! Yeah! It really is a cool machine
Hello - can you provide a diagram for clarity, please? I think I have it, and could play around with it, but.... Also, are you using the 12 as a preamp or as a recording device? Thanks in advance...
Diagram for the inputs/outputs? I have the monitors hooked up to the outputs, and then running all of the audio and instruments into the inputs of the mixer. Depending on the situation, I'm either playing audio thru the Model 12, or recording the instruments through the inputs
@@424Recording Thanks....that is what I was looking for...
Cool! I'm glad to help
Thank you!
why do you have a 57 taped backwards?
How to make sync with more sound card ?
Are tracks recorded to the SD card dry when effects have been used to monitor?
as someone coming from the world of daws and getting into hardware, this is also exactly what ive been looking for. also so stoked i found your channel
Awesome! Thanks for watching and thanks for being here!
that sweater is fresh
I just started recording at home again and am planning on using a new digital 12 channel Teac mixer into Studio One. Once I have everything recorded and sounding the way I want I’m going to play it back into the room through my system because that’s when it usually sounds the best. Then I’ll use my Ribbon mic to record the mastered song into a 1968 Teac 3 mixer and from there into a cassette. The deck recording will then be fed back into the computer. I’m assuming they recorded a lot like this in the 50’s but I can’t really find out much about this method. I thought of this method because I do it all the time with my cell phone. Any suggestions?
That was the one!!!!! 🤣🤣 nice video!!! I get mine today!!!
Can you do send fx with external fx?
Hello how are you doing I just buy tascam model 12 ,the problem is that I’m always record it using irig2 with this one I can’t make it works if you know can you please help me out where I can coneted or make it work.
How do you download the recording from the Tascam to your mobile phone???
great video editing
It appears you are not using the usb interface which would send audio to and from the mixer digitally from computer. Also you can make osx usb host and remote desktop into Windows freeing up more channel and cabels
Can you bounce tracks???
How does this compare to a DP-01FX-CD?
This is just great material, thank you!! I am so close to getting one
So for example can I run a guitar/bass through all of the tracks or is it only 1 and 2 that have instrument inputs?
Hey man, you can run electro acoustic guitar through all the tracks but bass and electric just through 1 and 2. Although with a D I box you can run electric and bass into them all, can get not bad ones for next to pennies
Channels 1-10 can all accept guitar/bass direct in. You just have to hit the INST button on the corresponding channel. Check out page 25 of the manual: tascam.com/downloads/products/tascam/model_12/efs_model12_om_vc.pdf
@@424Recording my bad, i was thinking of the model 24 which only has instrument buttons on channel 1 2,
Oh, interesting, Craig. I did not know that, re: 24. It'd be awesome to be able to check them all out side by side. There seems to be different functionality between the 3
@@424Recording yeah man, i think the model 16 and 24 are basically the same just the 16 a smaller version, the 12 has more digital features, has midi in and out the model 24 doesn’t also the model 12 you can set the eq post or pre, you cant print the eq on the model 24 its post the the compressor but pre eq
Hey, just bought a 424 MKIII and when I turn it on the pinch roller starts to spins and none of the buttons do anything. I have not even tried to put a tape in it yet. Any idea what could be wrong?
Mine does that too
Hi, have you use the model 12 midi time clock as a master from midi out to midi in of a drum machine as slave for syncing? If yes does the drum machine drift during model 12's stop and play?
I haven't yet. I need to try this out though
@@424Recordingthanks for your response. I appreciate your help and advice as I am keen on the model 12 and the manual was not clear on synchronisation between the model 12 and an external drum machine device via midi using midi time clock of the model 12 as a master.
Sweet setup, man. You need to get some acoustic drums up in that mother.
Ahhhhhh I know. I live in an apartment so I can't be playing blast beats at 1am. I definitely need to rectify that ASAP. Thanks, alan
@@424Recording I hear ya, man. Hey, I know how it is. I guess the good thing about the Tascam is that it's quite portable. You could record drums anywhere.
Great point! Maybe I can take up a trip up to Jay's one of these days as well!
Confused why you’re the Apollo if you are using it as a multi tracker on it’s own
Hey Mike..
Please read this..
My 424 burnt up on the fort three inputs..do you know anywhere or one that can fix it?
I van still run line in in the back but that's the only way to record..
Thank you..and get ableton for your home studio
Hey, SAJ. Where do you live? There are a couple repair shops that are known depending on your location. I used to have an FAQ with them. I'll see if I can find them or add them to the Discord
@@424Recording thank you..
I live in Tennessee bout 3 hours from Nashville.
damn...now I want this
Good stuff
great overview ..
Thanks!
@@424Recording can it record a master mix on the sd card? Thanks.
Cool overview, thanks. Do you actually need the Apollo Twin now? Is there a reason you can't use the Tascam as your Mac audio device?
Hmmm yeah I probably could have done that. Sometimes I didn't use my computers though, so I wanted to use it standalone
Big Issue is no PFL pro channel. so you can monitor with Headphone only Master Channel 1&2!!
Yeah, I'm working on a video about this actually!
Are the equalizers or compressors analogue? Also, is there any way to output individual channels’ signals? I’m looking at using this for its preamps and for its channel strip, but NOT as an interface. I could switch between interfaces, but i thought it would be cool to have 2 gain stages for capture, so that i could drive the model 12 preamps hard, and decrease the input gain at my interface. I’ll appreciate answers if anyone can help. Thanks!
You might want to look into the Model 16 or the 24. As far as I know, those are analog mixers. The 12 has some other things going on under the hood that makes it a digital mixer. I would try to find an older mixer if you want to distort it: any of the old 4-track preamps sound great distorted and there's all sort of old mixing consoles that can sound great distorted. Good luck!
Hey, interesting. Hope this question is not too trivial.. do you leave all this gear set-up/out all the time, and if so, how do you combat dust? Maybe it’s just my place but dust is everywhere! Im going to check the model 12.
Yeah, it is out all the time. The best way to combat dust is to get a paint brush. Get a soft bristled one from the hardware store (splurge a little on a good one) and whenever you see some dust accumulate, paint brush it away! I mean I guess it's just getting pushed around but it won't be on the machines. Thanks for watching
Uhm.... buy a dust cover?
That's friggin cool. Does this have the ability to be used as a standard Audio Interface for a computer via the USB?
Yup! The Model 12 does, but the bigger Models (16 and 24) do not
baby's first mixer :D
Pretty much haha
As an interface how many multi tracking can you achieve with this device?
I'm not sure, I've yet to hook it up as such...
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Great review...............But "Point break"?
Yeah haha
What year MacBook Pro you have ? And how does it run for you
2015. Everything works well except Logic. So I've gone DAWless this year haha
was johnny utah a four tracker?
Yeah, he actually was. After he got his knee folded back about 90 degrees the wrong way in the Rose Bowl, while convalescing he discovered 4-tracking. I'm not sure which 4-track he used though
@@424Recording bodhi seemed like a fostex kinda guy...
Ha!
dope
Your sweater game is on point
Haha thanks tom!
Lo podrían anunciar en español
nice
So you're using other audio interfaces with the Model 12, which is itself an interface? Interesting. Could you say more about the benefits this has on your signal chain/workflow?
I don't understand this also. I was thinking of replacing my Zoom L-8 with the Tascam for a variety of reasons.
Came for the review, stayed for Point Break.
“That was the one.”
Haha I was wondering if anyone watched that far!
@@424Recording haha. Always.
❤❤❤
Now do - how to use as an interface. :)
For sure! Added to my upcoming videos list. Coming up!
Bro I’m watch scott pilgrim rn and I have some questions
What's up?
How much for this set brother
Why aren't you using the Tascam as your interface?
Mine broke before I could use it .all I did was pull out the usb and it striped the board too shreds ? It’s happens too a few peaple I noticed? I don’t even know what too do now ? Figure out how to use it with out usb ? What a load of bollocks be careful pulling dat usb out , I would just leave it there my advice
4 min I'll never get back
Point Break 🤲
This is making my Head hurt
idk what y'all r talking about sweater looks itchy asf
Haha it's actually made from a softer type of yarn and is not itchy at all!
Model 12 blows. Cheap components. Trash compression. Awful FX. Poor quality parts.
The model 12 isn't user friendly at all I don't recommend it
It depends on the user. People who use multitrack recorders, mixers, and who do live sound will be feel right at home using one of these; if they're coming from a DAW, though, there will be a learning curve for sure