How GOOD was Shedinja ACTUALLY? - History of Shedinja in Competitive Pokemon (Gens 3-7)
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Shedinjas second highest stat is defense, let that sink in
Funfact : he can learn Leech life and final gambit
No
@@Puki9117 yeah
@@Puki9117 yes
@@yamirami8642 No
I like the Idea that a discarded exoskeleton can shrug off potentially world-ending attacks.
Groudon: I SHALL UNLEASH SOME PRECIPICE OF THE EARTH THAT SHALL BE BLADES THAT WILL SHATTER EVERYONE.
Shedinja: meh ok
@@butteredsalmonella Also Shedinja:
Bird slaps it with its wing
*Dies*
General Grievous not even a wing attack all a bird has to do is peck it
JoeBro915 *peck*
Shedinja: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH *dies*
Literally any sweeper that lacks Fire, Dark, Rock, Ghost or Flying moves: I am inevitable
Shedinja: Am I a joke to you?
Slight gust of wind: Allow me to introduce myself
I just find it hilarious how in lower tiers it's downright useless most of the time but yet in Ubers it's a great counter to certain Uber threats.
It's the Wobbuffet effect: The more broken the tier is, the better it gets.
@I Want Sex Hubby Nah, most people ran either Gastro or Palkia as Kyogre counters. Some tricky folks would occasionally Scarf Goth to try and trap a weakened Kyogre, but Kyogre needed to be pretty weakened for that to work. That was pretty much all Ubers had to work with, everything else was a soft counter.
IIRC Pikachu had no business being used anywhere except NU, where it was an OK-ish nuke (more OK then most NFE mons at least).
Quagsire, wobbuffet, shedinja...yeah
@@webbowser8834 The introduction of Ferrothorn left all of those pokemon obselete as Kyogre Counters because Ferrothorn can do other roles in Ubers outside of countering kyogre
@@frozenvoltz6739 Ehh, I'm no gen 5 ubers expert, but I'm pretty sure Palkia also did things besides countering Kyogre. Special Defensive Ferro does take a solid 40-50% from max special attack water spout or specs hydro pump, so while it does technically function as a counter, it needed to stay very healthy to do so.
That's the thing about Kyogre though, resisting his water stab was generally not good enough because it just had so many multipliers going for it. You generally needed either a quad resist or an outright immunity to really dissuade it from just firing off water STAB.
Shedinja's a gimmick, but i'll be damned if it ain't one of the most entertaining gimmicks out there.
Horricule
It is *NOT* a mere gimmick.
It is a *LIFESTYLE.*
beat up arcanine or lucario is the best gimmicks
It's better if you give it sturdy
@@guardian4452 it'll be immortal if it has sturdy
@@dannyn6036 until you throw fire spin
Shedinja doesn’t like sand. It’s coarse, and rough, and irritating, and it gets everywhere. Not like NU. There everything is soft, and smooth.
nice quote
Incredibly underrated comment. I wish I could like it more than once.
that is until Gigalith show's up
NU MASTER TIER!
"Shedinja doesn't like sand..." it has been confirmed...Shedinja is Darth Vader
that feel when your so bad that you can only be used in uber.
wait.
Meanwhile everyone else were too busy running against each other to the finish line Shedinja ear the starting shot, took one step back, and crossed it.
shedinja just drew a 4 in sorry
@@grammaticalrouge29 Or like being far ahead 1st in Mario Kart because everyone in 2nd and below is too busy fighting each other for the honor of taking you out.
*you're
Grammatical Rouge then died
Thanks for mentioning me! In fact, I obtained almost 400 CP with it within moon series, which included 3th place in Mexico City Special Event and 24th place in Collinsville Regionals.
It's crazy no one reads this far into the comments and sees this. Congratulations man, on getting that far. Shedinja is a special little guy and I'm glad someone used it.
Hottie Thottie wasn’t that far.
no one cares
Eric Oliveira you obviously did.
Eric Oliveira wow heartless
Still annoyed how Shedinja doesn’t have 1 for Def and SpDef. Would give it more stats for attacking and speed
What do you mean, bulky Shedinja is the only way to go
@@jamonelavivanco5994 Dynamax Shedinja ftw
mega shedinja sounds nice
Give Shedinja Cosmic Power and Recover
Or special attack
*Legendaries appear and terrorizing a town*
Shedinja: Can't touch this!
*looks up and sees a pebble falling down* "I'm fucked!"
@@deinonychus1948 HAH! Imagine the horrors of combining wonder gaurd with thickfat
I used Shedinja in-game in ORAS and lmao those trainers had to keep switching
@@masonjones7777 would only negate fire.
@@ShadowtheTH-camr523 That's still 1 less instant death then their could have been, which any rational shedninja main would sell a kidney for (provided there even IS a shedninja user that thinks rationally).
I can respect any pokemon whose viability is determined entirely by how good your reads are.
Agreed af
Yeah literally makes gen 7 by being a mind reading guru.
"Shedinja, you just can't cut it either in OU or in UU."
"Then I'll go to UBERS."
"Wait, it doesn't work that wa-"
"U B E R S"
I love this comment
That remembers me of the Simpsons where Mr. Burns says he is indestructable xD
Quagsire also says hi in ubers.
@@dragonslayerz2220 true
@@dragonslayerz2220 Froslass as welll..
Mega rayquaza: *Life orb Draco meteor*
Shedinja: You sure you belong in AG?
Charmander: *Ember*
Shedinja: OH GOD NO
Dragon Ascent go brrrr
Team Rocket: Recites their motto
Paul: *EMBER!*
TR: Ember! :D ... *EMBER?!?*
*Shedinja faints*
@@endiedementor581 that's a dragon type move though?
@@vyor8837 no, it's flying
@@snowvix8902 huh, so it is
>1 HP
>45 Defense
>30 Special
Ok thanks nintendo
Why even give it points in defensive stats with 1 HP. Would've been better to invest in its other stats.
@@wot7nrecordings707 probably because ditto
or a received Substitute through Baton Pass
Really if they wanted it to be a viable pokemon they would of transferred its "defensive" stats to offensive. If it gets hit it dies lol... That being said I love the damn thing. One day it will be the god it was meant to be.
@@lucy3766 Pichu! (I think it is obvious why you can't really do that, since you will probably have it die before that happens)
Shoutouts to the guy who reached top 1 in SM OU using Stall with Safety Goggles Shedinja.
Also Jinx got Jinxed LUL.
I've seen that team a few times. My Ditto gets a good laugh out of it every time.
Early April fools day?
God that team made me want to rip my whole fucking head off bro
What was the rest of the team?
@@Resener1 Dugtrio, Mega Sableye, talonflame, seismitoad, togekiss
Shedinja is definitely my favorite pokemon. I fondly remember grinding on my friend's secret base team with him way back in Ruby, because he didn't have anything that could kill it. Then he altered his team to give some of his pokemon anti-Shedinja moves so then I had to alter my strategies to deal with them too. Probably the first time my 10-year-old brain started thinking about pokemon strategically on that level. Thanks Shedinja.
Pokemon make us think hard
"PU? No, that's far to tough for me. I'll stay in UBER, where I belong."
- quote Shedinja
I believe one of the most notorius top ladder defining team in ORAS OU was built based on the trio "Dugtrio, Mega Sableye, Shedinja" that relied on Sableye to control hazards, Dugtrio to trap things like Tyrannitar, and Shedinja to wall. (and talonflame, seismitoad, togekiss or other variants of teammates) The team was spammed so much that this is actually the first thing that came to mind when speaking of Shedinja competitvely. Later on though, Mega Sableye got banned several days before Sun Moon arrived, and Dugtrio got retroactively banned as well last year.
I have a weakness for Pokemon with great strength but weird weaknesses. Shedinja, Slaking and Wishiwashi are my favorites.
Wishiwashi was my main when i first played sun and moon. Of course then i got getting to level 20 was the real test.
Your comment has 69 likes so I legally cannot like it
Wobbafett?
Wishiwashi is amazing granted it stays above 25% HP. I used one on my team back when S&M came out and holy hell does it annihilate things weak to water. I just wish it were faster, but when you have 130+ in both attack and defense stats what can you really ask for
I love all 3 slaking is my favourite pure normal type because counter makes him a great counter to physical sweepers and I love his design wishiwashi just keep health up and he's great, shedding is my least favourite of the 3 but he's still fun and I like working around using him
Shedinja is the literal Embodiment of "Imagine actually needing Defense and Sp.Defense Lmao"
The only thing you need with shedinja is attack and speed nothing else
@@sugarybomber2081 truly, I would love for that 75 Defensive stats to go to either Attacking stats or maybe split it in both cuz a 165 Atk seems too much. Oh and speed too ofc
@@monsieurromanbedlam5101 splitting it to attack and special attack is the most balanced way to do it.
"Couldn't be me, lol"
Despite its second best stat being def...
Ah, yes, Wonder Guard: The ability so abuseable that they had to resort to the unprincipled exception of making Skill Swap not work on that one ability in particular.
Skill swap also fails on some legendary signature abilities like power construct, as one, multitype and some others I can't remember.
@@oodogla none of which were added at the same time as skill swap like wonderguard was
Trace gardevoir: hehe boi
What if Wonder Guard worked similarly to Magic Guard in that it also negated indirect damage?
@@r.a.c.5754 that would be really good since normally shedinja has to use an item to remove one of the many indirect attacks that can kill it, but now it only has to worry about being hit with a super effective attack.
I feel like it should have been mentioned that Shedinja Stall was perfectly viable back when Arena Trap was allowed in OU.
He just reads and paraphrases the smogon article. Shedinja's OU analysis was removed when Arena Trap was banned, but yes, it definitely deserves to be mentioned.
@@bradschaefer2387 He was good in OU ORAS with this strat too.
@@bradschaefer2387 it feels like that's at least partially correct , with exceptions when he gets advise from someone for the video or had personal experience of that meta
You forgot to mention a significant niche Shedinja had until Arena Trap got banned in OU gen 7, he was seen in stall team paired with Dugtrio (and other stall staples) and Shedinja's work was to do the most cancreous PP stall ever : the switch-trap loop with Protect, Baton Pass, Will-O-Wisp and Shadow Sneak
@@Ropalme1914 Yep, the niche was short-lived, but when it wasn't, you were constantly wondering if your next opponent had that kinf of team or not, even prepared
Wasn’t baton pass already banned though
That wasn't good in gen 7, though. It was a gen 6 niche pushed largely by wonder trio and modifications of said team meant to handle the likes of togekiss (like adding zapdos).
@@madman4043 I forgot it was a thing in gen 6, but yes it was just a niche because it was inconsistent but when you could put it, it was a living hell and I think it's worth mentioning it, at least in a commentary
Actually, Wonder Trio was considered such a pain that people considered using the ban lists to nerf the teams it was apart of.
6:09 damn shedninja getting freaky.
At 69 to 😤😤😤
@@ctxclr4680 That's not a 69...
wait, it's genderless tho
6 minutes and 9 seconds i got u lol
Shedinja just menacingly floats forward.....
I just realised that Shedinja's EXACT opposite is Blissey.
Explain?
@@badedits4127 HP stat.
Blissey has the highest HP stat, and shedinja has the lowest HP stat
@@RBatman5000 Also, Blissey is Normal type.
@@-KnightOfTheWind ,yea
The 1-Hit Wonder Guard itself
eeveemaster NRN
Legendary
How good would Shedinja be if Wounder Guard blocked passive damage too? 🤔
The Fan op
The Fan better, but nothing spectacular given it's common weaknesses
*Laughs in Entry Hazards*
@@pepeknight entry hazards are passive damage too
Good enough
From what I saw its a good thing Shedinja didnt make it into Scarlet/Violet because the Terastalizing mechanic would've made it SO busted. Want to know why? This is because from what I saw in Smogon, players gave Shedinja the electric tera and equipped it with an air balloon. That made Shedinja almost invincible because the only way to out it at that point would be to have weather hurt it.
Either that or have a mold breaker pokemon hit it
I love how that one guy in 2009 just realized that he can't win, so rather than wasting everyone's time, he just has Empoleon and Snorlax just beat on each other to speed things up
I realize this comment is a year old, but isn't there some form of time stall shenanigans that could be abused to still win since Shedinja was all that was left compared to the multiple opponents the other player had?
Or was time stall not in play yet at this point?
@@stetsonherrick8090 Youd need to PP stall shedinja through all of its protects, sunny days, x scissors, and shadow sneaks without dying then struggle would kill shedinja
@@ink3487 but that wouldnt work cuz by then shedinja wouldve killed both pokemon.
@@apdroidgeek1737 if Snorlax was rest curse or smthn you could prob stall it out
Who would win?
A Pokemon who brought enough rain to create oceans.
Or
Literally an old cicada skin
Not even just a dead cicada, its old-ass skin.
@@Fargoth_Ur
Close enough
Or one dead boi*
Kyogre can learn Ancientpower. It almost never gets used, which I find kind of weird seeing how badly Kyogre gets walled by Shedinja normally. I guess it isn't worth giving up one of Kyogre's moves to not get walled by Shedinja?
One skinny boi
I’m surprised the brief era of “Shedinja Stall” in Sun and Moon wasn’t mentioned
can someone explain what that was
@@tranquilitickarma basically shedinja could come in and protect a lot of the already difficult stall pokemon, but it eventually dropped because people realized it just died to way too much especially snow since alolan ninetales was setting up aurora veil everywhere
Because it wasn't relevant.
@@madman4043 It was playable with Dugtrio in ORAS (with Baton Pass). The strat is a counter to many counters of Hardstall.
It was bigger in ORAS but yes it's pretty dumb he didn't mention that at all
All I want is Gamefreak to buff Wonderguard to get rid of passive damage...
lol i was just thinking the same thing. Except maybe Stealth Rock as it is technically super-effective.
That would be unbelievably broken, just letting yall know
@@benjaminferido413 But it would be so much fun
They don’t need to do that. They just need to buff Shedinja’s HP to 2 or 3, so it can survive one round of passive damage and do something before getting wrecked.
@@ThisIsntATH-camr that'd ruin sturdy shedinja though
Shedinja's weak to enough common attacking types anyway; Wonder Guard should protect it from ANY and ALL types of damage, except super effective hits. No sand, no hail, no self-harm, no poison, no burn, no entry hazards, no Life Orb / Sticky Barb / Black Sludge, no recoil, no anything aside from attacks against it that say "It's super effective". Even then it wouldn't be too broken without some serious strategizing.
C'mon Gamefreak.
Give it magic guard like Clefairy has as well as saying has to be super effective. Could hack a recycle magic guard focus scarf lol
I've hacked a Magic Guard Shedinja before. It was surprisingly effective with Focus Sash, Endeavor, Pursuit, Shadow Sneak, and Bullet Punch lol. I may have actually traded out Shadow Sneak for Recycle.
It went with a Wonder Guard Sableye that had a Lum Berry with Taunt, Dragon Dance, Phantom/Shadow Force, and Close Combat.
Also on the team was a No Guard Ninjask with Scope Lens, Sheer Cold, Stone Edge (for Sturdy Shuckle), Sacred Fire (for Sturdy Skarmory/Fortress), and Dynamicpunch (for Sturdy Bastiodon).
Also I had a really creative set for my little nephew. I gave him a Timid Mew with max SpAtk and max Speed. Its ability was Wonder Guard, and it had Air Balloon, Thunderbolt, Conversion, Calm Mind, and Psyshock.
Now, this was in gen 5, so Conversion just changed the Pokemon to a random type out of its moves instead of whatever move is in the first slot. But, Conversion can't pick itself or any type that the user already is, so that only left Thunderbolt, so it'd make Mew Electric, and since it had an Air Balloon, it had no weakness. Very few things could beat it as long as he made sure to use Conversion on it right away.
I also gave him a Sheer Force Mewtwo with Life Orb, Psychic, Flamethrower (for Bug), Shadow Ball (for Ghost), and Signal Beam (for Dark), but the Mew was his fave lol.
@@Shin_FTW yeah thats fun. One we always talked about was just giving electross wonderguard and air balloon since he has such high offenses. Basically forces enemy to use trick or status.
It would be op though, i think for shedinja to be balanced they have to put hp on it
I think it was made like that so there could be some counter play even if you didn't plan for him. Like every team should have at least something to fight him with. Do i like it? Not really because ill accidentally kill my cinnamon roll with sandstorm and feel stupid
Unviable in OU? That's fine. Just play in Ubers.
Raynman Gaming I’m surprised shedinja hasn’t seen more use with Safety Goggles blocking weather damage.
Unviable in PU? that's fine. Just play in ubers
@@IntrusiveThot420 i am surprised he never mentions swagger. 50% they can't KO or the fact it is ghost and blocks rapid spin.
Raynman Gaming, bruh wym? OU stands for OUbers. Smh
How good was the life orb item actually
Or any item really will do
Great... Unless if you're shedinja
I'd be totally down with Item analysis videos, that actually sounds like a really great idea. Covering the overall meta usage for the item along with notable users and outliers.
That would actually be a great break from pokemon focused episodes.
On Noivern 👌
Anyone wanna talk about assault vest tapu koko
Whenever I see Shedinja I remember this one Battle SIM battle in XD: Gale of Darkness where you kill 6 of them in one turn by using Spikes and Sandstorm.
In the meantime in Hackmons :
Sturdinja rules
Sturdy Shedinja omegalul
Adaptability Mega Mewtwo X
A decent Regigigas with poison heal and Facade.
Zekrom:What?
Huge Power regigigas
Nincada was my first shiny, so I got 2 shinies for the price of one
Marc Hatanpaa i never even though about that. Lmao.
This is beyond science
No, you got one shiny and a SLIGHTLY brighter Shedinja (his shiny is bullshit).
Thats not the law of equivalent exchange...but we take those
Shedinja is the spy equivalent in stratego, I just realized. That’s pretty crazy!
Edit: If you don’t get it, the spy piece in stratego can’t withstand any attack from the other pieces, but can take out the best piece if it attacks it first, like Shedinja in ubers
Bro no one in this generation knows what stratego is
Yeah I used shedinja, but that reference went completely past me
Man I remember stratego
Poké Trainer Mooli Thank you for bringing this into the world bro that game was part of an amazing childhood
Inflatable Mattress DS board game collection squad rise up
I remember when my friends used to hack wonder guard on legendaries and flex on me constantly during battles. I am talking full on uber teams with wonder guard during gen 4. It was so annoying but also funny how they actually thought that they had any battling skills whatsoever.
Ninjask: a fast boi that gets more speed in every turn
Shedninja: a untouchable dud
Nincada: a bug pokemon.
Shedinja is actually where Nincada's Electric immunity went when it evolved.
Shedninja is every extreme nuzlockers nightmare
for me it was delcatty, who got wonder guard... and got different type combination.
@@doremysweet860 imagine it was ghost/dark... before gen 6 (inb4 this is actually the case)
@@kwayke9 it was Steel/Poison, but at that point i didnt have any ground and fire attacks, so i just caught it with cheats...(Aaron had it as a lead pokemon)
Kwayke Reminds me of my buddy who traded me a hacked Sableye with wonder guard that just couldn’t take any damage since it had no weaknesses lol
@@Evildandalo it still can take passive damage, so Roar+Hazards works.
Remember the days when people would hack Wonder Guard onto Sableye or Spiritomb? Those were the good ol' days xD
But for some reason fire fang still worked on them
Vooia doesn’t Mold Breaker ignore Wonder Guard?
@@RFE812 Yes it does
Mega Rayquaza was so good that it got banned from the banlist
Gen 9 Shedinja is so good that it dismantled said tier completely
I wonder if Slow (Fun)bro is worse or Tera Shedinja is. The former got banned from the unrestricted tier while the latter turned the unrestricted tier defunct.
Shedinja was always my favorite bug type, it was unique and weird and I sympathized with that
And here I thought Shedinja was just a "novelty" Pokémon.
True but it's one of the novelties that can cause absolute butthurt if you play doubles. Soak shedinja is absolutely hilarious to play, assuming you get rid of grass or electric threats.
It was a novelty pokemon. It was just a somewhat effective novelty if you knew how to use it.
@@praisehelix5235 Holy crap, that is pure evil. I'm going to try this pretty soon here.
@@DavidsaurusRex smogon players hate him, people with at least 2 brain cells love him find out how 1 terrible Pokemon makes players take sledgehammer to there 3DS.
@@praisehelix5235 Lmao what? That setup might be one of the worst in all of doubles. It wastes turns, it's obvious, and it barely works until it's ENTIRELY done.
If you're looking for non-novelty shedinja, look no further than the wonder trio stall team.
Don't hate on Shedinja, he's a precious ghost cinnamon roll and deserves to be protected.
Considering his ability, he's pretty protected.
@@TheGloriousLobsterEmperor considering his tier, I think he needs more protection still
@@natekite7532 Considering his abilities of killing legendaries like Kyogre, Xerneas and the Lati twins, legendaries are the ones in need of protection if a cicada's ghost can beat them
Amen brother
*needs
Im surprised nobody has considered running the fabled life orb shedninja. The increase in damage really makes a difference!
No no no
Black sludge shedinja is better because it can recover hp
@@jamesgiles4517😂😂😂😂
Since Shedinja is very fragile, it should run Sticky Barb so as to keep dealing damage after fainting.
Shedninja: the only Pokemon who is only viable in ubers
I always name my Shedinja Motoko. Y'know, because it's a ghost...in a shell.
C'mon, that's funny.
We need more humans like you on this planet
Motoko?
I'm not even mad. Good one.
Major~
@@createusername6421
>Can cyborg have sex?
>Care to find out?
>Nah
1. Shedinja gets buffed to 2 HP
2. All damage that does a fraction of 100% to it is rounded down to 1 after truncation
3. Hold item: Leftovers
4. Smogon bans Shedinja to AG
Me: *raughs*
The day i used a whole bunch of stat boosting items to try increasing the hp. Thats 100 evs and it definitely showed
it breaks sash and sturdinja though, so leftovers would be a necessity; 2hp leftovers sturdinja on the other hand
@@matthewchen8452 hes talking about things like spikes that deal a percent so you can actually send it out
Snowbound Whale knock off
toxic
It comes full circle with shedinja (and Assist cats) making nat dex anything goes so unplayable that it's not longer a proper tier
Shedinja:Steals souls of people looking at its back
Your Trainer:Doesn’t blink or react.
Me:Hmmmmmmmm
i've come for your pickle!
dunkanbulk14 Aaaaaah
Steal your soul
Super Greyflash exactly
@Super Greyflash what about Nate/Rosa
I remember that in Gen 6, there was a classic stall team used Shedinja, mega sableye and Dugtrio as its core members. Shedinja truly had some influence in gen 6 OU metagame
It's pokemon like these that continues to make me smile. And honestly I'm glad there are crazy souls in VGC that try using them.
Here's an interesting concept for a video: "How GOOD was Hidden Power ACTUALLY?" You've mentioned the move dozens of times over the course of these videos, citing it as a versatile and powerful move in most respects. An in-depth analysis on the move could be quite interesting.
Hidden power is suck a great move, I guess the lady in fortree city was right.
There is no Hidden Power
@@may1101 There is no Hidden Power in Ba Sing Se
I trolled someone before with a Shedninja by using a second pokemon with Double team and baton pass. It was pretty funny.
Mega Shedinja: now it has 2 HP!
Suddenly has a niche with curse and leftovers.
@@chaosryans A mega with held item? What is that? A Rayquaza?
@@ZenoDLC mega shedinja is kind of permanent evolution when you level it up to 69 with an open team slot and a master ball.
mega shedinja: gets sturdy
48 HP. Divisible by all the fractions that affect HP (I think), so hazards and status aren't instant death anymore, but they and super effective moves can still take it out.
I started in gen 3, and was equally fascinated and disappointed by Shedinja. I'm thrilled to hear that it has gone on to do wonderful things in the meantime. Good bug.
Sturdy shedinja:
*Laughs in almost invincible*
Fire spin: slowly laughing
mold breaker: weak
Fun fact: The defense stats from Nincada are split between Shedinja and Ninjask. Which makes sense as it is losing its shell, which makes it lose all that protection for the shell and puts it on Shedinja
I'm sad that Shed Stall never got mentioned. That team terrorized OU against underprepared teams, which were many
pre baton pass ban
@@marceloSSJ didn't even need baton pass. But baton pass is very good on sheddy
I remember when I was younger training my nincada and finally evolving it and looking in my box seeing shedinja and thinking... When did I catch this.
Heavy Duty Boots: "Need some help fam?"
Safety googles, lum berry: "are we a joke to you?"
@@riccardopelino yes, rocks/spikes completely invalides the best Shedinja strategy, not dieing.
@@grantflippin7808 how about Shedinja lead?
@@riccardopelino that may work, but Shedinja is at it's strongest when you emphasize longevity by carefully switching in and out to gain advantage. (Talking strictly about Ubers)
@@grantflippin7808 Like swithching in on a Psyshock choise specs calyrex shadow raider. How about defog or rapid spin?
Shedinja has a good niche in Gen 8 OU stall as the only Pokemon immune to Volt Switch/Flip Turn/U-turn, greatly limiting the momentum of teams that rely on those moves, not to mention having Heavy Duty Boots to negate the entry hazards as well as Pursuit being removed and Knock Off having much less distribution.
It also had a great niche in Gen 8 Ubers for walling both Zacian forms before they were banned.
Shouldve gotten sturdy as a hidden ability.
Also anyone else used to use shednija against kyogre in sapphire?
Oh absolutely not. Sturdy shedinja is a fairly op thing
@@mrinfinity5557 will of wisp,toxic
In Balanced Hackmons Sturdy Shedinja Counters include Moves that Ignore Abilities and Weather Burns and Toxic
@@mrinfinity5557 in a metagame full of stealth rocks and status conditions, I'd say it'd be pretty balanced
That’s why on my BH team, I carry Photon Geyser on my Adaptability Mega Mewtwo X, and Sunsteel Strike on my Steelworker Kartana
Me:*reads it’s Pokédex entry* wow creepy but interesting
*i send it into battle later*
Me:ohh hell nahh!!
Shedinja:LOOK AT IT!!!!
Lol cursed_back_sprite.jpg
It happend bois! Shedinja went from Untiered to AG! 🦀🦀🦀
I loved that little ghost bug! Glad to see it’s getting more use now
Shedinja didn't see success with fans?
But... but I love Shedinja!
If you love Shedinja so much why don't you marry him?
I tried marrying shedinja, and that gaping hole is like throwing a sausage down a well.
Shedinja was always one of my favorites just for how unique it is (and the design is so neat, I love the ghost/angel wings on a spooky and cute little bug). Thanks for this one!
I remember accidentaly getting shedinja as a kid when I evolved my nincada because for some reason I had empty party space, I was mindblown!!!
I had some small success with a fun themed lineup where I used shedinja with zoroark for some fun head games (also had toxicroak on the team for switchups to keep people guessing)
Vs AIs especially it made the changeover from when zoroark's illusion worked on AIs to when it didn't really noticeable, lol
The BH god himself, along side Chansey and Mega Rayquaza. Nothing beats landing a Photon Geyser from a Mega Mewtwo X on an unsuspecting new player who thinks they can just win with Endeavor Sturdy Shedinja
My BY game:
Enemy sends out shedinja
Switch into epseon
Shedinja uses endeavor
Epseon on 1 hp
Shedinja uses shadow sneak
*Espeon's dazzling protected it from shadow sneak!
Moongiest beam
@@camoking3605 You'd never counter my ability swap truant shedninja
@@Annadog40 now see, I built epseon for sturdy Shedinja, that would get me
@@camoking3605 I called it the spanish inquisition
I don’t know about you guys but shedninja terrified me as a kid. Still kinda does
Nathan Frantz it appears in your team from nowhere. Truly creepy bug.
It suddenly appearing in your party terrified me as a kid. The half-shut "dead eyes" made it even creepier.
I went up against it in the Battle Factory in Emerald and I was royally screwed ‘cause I had no idea how Wonder Guard worked. That put me off of returning for a while.
Well, since according to the Pokédex, using it will literally steal your soul, you have every reason to be terrified.
That and the fact it's literally a zombie.
I always hated how Shedinja has defense stats, they should be 0 only to make it somewhat good.
But substitute Is Useless about that!
Maybe it refrence to Nincada Line. Nincada have 90 defense and when it evolve,Ninjask got 45 defense...
Maybe it's because of Ditto and substitute
Its because shedninja's stats are just the same as nincada's but 1 HP and the defense and attack swapped.
I always liked this line simply due to how unique it is...seeing as far as I know nincada is the only pokemon that evolves into two pokemon at once.
Ditto placed first at a tournament???
HOW GOOD WAS DITTO ACTUALLY!!!!!?????
In first 4 gens useless. From gen 5 onwards, he was like Quagsire: useful in every single tier like a niche pick, and especially good in Ubers, Monotype and maybe OU, for countering sweepers.
It was bad until he got his hidden hability
Imposter Choice Scarf Ditto fucked me up more times than I would have liked back in BW OU
We'll never gey Ditto. I've been begging for ages.
Drew Armstrong, The Glorious Lobster Emperor I dunno, April Fools is kinda a perfect holiday for it XD
Though the first week is always Patreon pick, maybe we can really push for it for April?
Shedinja is an interesting Pokemon. I've seen someone use it really well with baton pass support
This is a really interesting series. You've made it
Alright let's talk about the most interesting VGC winning pokemon ever
How good was Pachirisu actually?
How good was Pichu? God Tier in all domains.
What a magical day
Pachirisu, the cuter pichu
Anyway, here's Wonder Guard.
Shedinja is my favorite pokemon both competitively and aesthetically. It put in some serious work in ORAS OU when Dugtrio was still around :)
arent you the guy who made wonder trio? heat
This little ghoul has always been fun to use. Takes alot of work to pull anything off with it though. I remember performing a half sweep with it in X and Y. It was great.
He's hilarious to have as one of the possible three on a 1v1 team, even as just a mind game :)
I was hoping we'd get to hear about Balanced Hackmons on FSG
I wish Wonder Guard would also block residue damage, unless it's from the type the pokemon's weak against. That way Shedinja wouldn't be instantly killed be Spikes, Sandstorm (both ground), Toxic (poison) or Hail (ice). However it'd still be weak to Stealth Rocks (rock) or Burn status (fire). It's broken, but at least it wouldn't make Shedinja completely useless.
Best use for Shedinja... laughing as a low level one slowly chips away at the Kyogre you're trying to catches health.
Even better when you use a single level 20 shedinja and beat Wallace/Juan by spamming fury cutter because he can't hurt you haha. Had a good time doing that in Pokemon ruby.
This was such a good vid man I sub!
Terra-Electric type shedinja with air balloon is banned from OU
God
I really want to see this remade and be like 2 minutes longer
It can be an empty party slot sometimes, but still one of my favorite Pokémon ever. It's like the Pokémon I would like to leave out of it's pokéball wherever I'd go. I'm always hoping for it to become immune to status/weather and only be hit by direct supereffective moves...
YEAAAAAAAAAAAH I don’t really enjoy the competitive scene but it’s always great to see people talk about my favorite pokemon!
*Shedinja vs the most powerful Pokemon*
Dialga: *ROAR OF TIME*
Shedinja: Time is just an illusion..
Palkia: *SPACIAL REND*
Shedinja: You cannot create or destroy matter. Get your physics together.
Giratina: *SHADOW FORCE*
Shedinja: I might be a ghost... *but I still don't believe in ghosts...*
Arceus: *JUDGEMENT*
Shedinja: I'm atheist...
@@randomuser3260 NO! Shhhhhhh!
@@randomuser3260 Not with prote- wait.
Phantom Force was attained in a later gen, which does allow it to avoid Shadow Force by moving second and being untargettable. Requires the read of Shadow Force to begin with, but pretty funny strat all things considered
@Ian_Choi 20261121 Couldn't think of a joke for him
*Giratina use Shadow Force*
Shedinja: wait let me just *Protect*
Wonder Guard on a pokemon that had real stats (and so didn't auto-die to ANY damage) would be OP, but really all that means is... It goes to Ubers and just gets one-shot by something with the proper coverage or a Mold Breaker type effect. They're becoming more common and coverage just becomes wider and wider with each generation, so... Honestly unless the pokemon also had incredible stats and/or a killer moveset, Wonder Guard alone on an otherwise average pokemon wouldn't ruin the game. It *could* unbalance single player though, if they weren't careful.
Magic guard is a cool ability too avoids any damage except attacks. Status, weather, recoil, and entry hazards all null. And could be pretty breaking for a lot of pokes too.
Shedninja already breaks single player if you're able to use proper prediction
Shedinja having a gimmick by functioning as a guardian angel that intervenes to save allies is great flavor wise.
Shedinja: Hey im gonna use-
any pokemon with a fire move: *vibe check*
The only way to use Shedinja's second highest stat is to use transform with mew or ditto
Just remembered when I was playing Pokemon Mystery Dungeon.
SHEDINJA'S WAY TOO TANKY. CAN'T EVEN KILL HIM IN ONE HIT.😢 It almost took me 5 mins to kill a Shedinja.
shedinja was op af until S U P E R M Y S T E R Y D U N G E O N
Gravelerock: you should've aimed the head
iirc In mystery dungeon shedinja has 5 HP, and the regular attack still hurts it so if you don't have gravel rocks (which deal static 20 damage so OHKO's shedinja) you can use the regular attack 5 times. Problem is it's a ghost type so super annoying when they are hitting you through the wall, they were a pain to deal with in buried relic.
0:20 how true. back in 2004 i was stuck with full pokedex but no shejinja, azurill and milotic. It was nearly impossible to figure out without the help of the internet 1-2 years later than that
Bro I LOVE that you use Akrisa music:)