The History of F.E.A.R. - Pokémon’s Oldest Cheese

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    Sometimes Legendaries just get destroyed by Lv 1 Rattata and friends.
    #pokemon #pokemonshowdown
    0:00 - Intro
    2:06 - How it started
    4:17 - Aron becomes the new FEAR Pokemon
    7:02 - FEAR indirectly nerfed
    8:12 - The many weaknesses of FEAR
    12:25 - Aron in DPP Little Cup
    15:05 - Outro
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  • @bartzbuddy
    @bartzbuddy ปีที่แล้ว +7400

    I never got the impression that FEAR was a strategy used in viable competitive pokemon. It was more of a "Shock Value" gimmick to force new players to realize that Pokemon has a lot more strategic diversity than just "Throw all your legendaries at 'em!"
    It's not for the competitive scene, it's to traumatize 9 year olds playing online for the first time.

    • @WildCharger
      @WildCharger ปีที่แล้ว +955

      So it’s the best strat ever.

    • @1tsJustKetchup
      @1tsJustKetchup ปีที่แล้ว +346

      @@WildChargeressentially

    • @hawkticus_history_corner
      @hawkticus_history_corner ปีที่แล้ว +548

      It's the Pokemon version of Git Gud and it's very effective. Like Shedinja

    • @h0m3st4r
      @h0m3st4r ปีที่แล้ว +128

      @@WildCharger More like a gatekeeper strategy.

    • @MikemasterM1
      @MikemasterM1 ปีที่แล้ว +413

      Definitely a noob check strategy, if you didn’t bring priority/multi hit moves on your team before that, you will forever bring it on your team after playing against this strat
      Source: Got swept by a level 1 Aron and Cottonee in Gen 5

  • @reallyawesometitle7653
    @reallyawesometitle7653 ปีที่แล้ว +5015

    The rise of multi-strike moves has made this strategy more rare with each gen release

    • @rdxgamer1772
      @rdxgamer1772 ปีที่แล้ว +378

      And priority

    • @TheMirksta
      @TheMirksta ปีที่แล้ว +362

      Obviously it's another weakness but I wouldn't say that, I think perma weather leaving and the abundance of hazards are the main reasons it doesn't really work

    • @InsertNameHere649
      @InsertNameHere649 ปีที่แล้ว +118

      Loaded dice means multi-strike moves are actually viable now too, like Baxcalibur's icicle spear, breloom's bullet seed, cloyster doesn't even need loaded dice but still counts, etc. So multi-strike moves are more common and FEAR is harder to pull off because of it. Urshifu-Rapid invalidated the strategy alone, now it's even worse for them.

    • @baconator_x4098
      @baconator_x4098 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@BlueAizu_ And _ability_ negating abilities!

    • @timmyreobed5043
      @timmyreobed5043 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      ​@@InsertNameHere649 Breloom's Bullet Seed was viable since Gen 5 thanks to Technician, but now it's downright silly.

  • @averytubestudios
    @averytubestudios ปีที่แล้ว +4194

    I had no idea that FEAR originally stood for F****** Evil Annoying Rodent. Thanks FSG for making me laugh at competitive Pokémon

    • @matthewkuscienko4616
      @matthewkuscienko4616 ปีที่แล้ว +280

      It's because everyone uses the other acronym for it due to not wanting to be demonatized by TH-cam for using a curse word in their video. Other people don't use it due to not liking swearing, which lead to the other version becoming the more popular and widely recognized name for this strategy

    • @ShaftCommander
      @ShaftCommander ปีที่แล้ว +33

      What are you….8 years old?

    • @ninjagaro.
      @ninjagaro. ปีที่แล้ว +25

      only 8yo minds like swearing

    • @BladeTNT2018
      @BladeTNT2018 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      2:57

    • @the_machinery7800
      @the_machinery7800 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      POV when this reply section finds out religion exist: 🤯🤯🤯😱😵‍💫😵‍💫

  • @TalkingVidya
    @TalkingVidya ปีที่แล้ว +404

    I feel FEAR is like when you find a naked guy in Dark Souls' PVP.
    You know the match is going to be a joke and you are the punch line

  • @Xman34washere
    @Xman34washere ปีที่แล้ว +2300

    “The opposing Aron recovered a little HP thanks to its shell bell!”
    _heals to full_
    “A little”

    • @Jimera0
      @Jimera0 ปีที่แล้ว +313

      I mean it is a little! Aron just has a little HP to begin with so lol

    • @samuelemmert5136
      @samuelemmert5136 ปีที่แล้ว +217

      Makes sense, he's just a little guy

    • @goreobsessed2308
      @goreobsessed2308 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      Well yeah 12

    • @iantaakalla8180
      @iantaakalla8180 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      12 is a little HP, so they are not wrong

    • @HizuiSneazel
      @HizuiSneazel ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I'd like but it's at 666 lol

  • @M3G4T3RR4
    @M3G4T3RR4 ปีที่แล้ว +1983

    surprised at no mention of Scrappy Taillow being a better FEARer than Rattata due to actually hitting Ghosts, but I suppose by the time Gen 5 rolled around to give Taillow Scrappy, the novelty of FEAR had already been killed several times over.

    • @TheMirksta
      @TheMirksta ปีที่แล้ว +197

      Ground immunity gives it some extra potential to come in on a choiced ground move too

    • @balisticemerald8512
      @balisticemerald8512 ปีที่แล้ว +159

      Taillow is pretty funny because it also gets U-Turn. Like, instead of going for the FEAR you just U-Turn out. Pretty funny when your opponent has a Skarmory and you have a Magnezone

    • @rizachan8892
      @rizachan8892 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      A hell naw Terra is even here

    • @-carpet-
      @-carpet- ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Bro turned his taillow into a fearow

    • @samuelcornwell3949
      @samuelcornwell3949 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Dude
      My first online game in gen 5 was against 5 scrappy tailow and a smeargle passing leech seeds

  • @Robin0Blackett
    @Robin0Blackett ปีที่แล้ว +658

    I used F.E.A.R. in its original form (Rattata) against Ultra Necrozma in UltraSun. So much fun, the music, the stage, the build-up to the great fight... And the giant apocalyptic Pokemon goes down to quick attack in second turn. Priceless.

    • @rushalias8511
      @rushalias8511 ปีที่แล้ว +148

      That's why alola actually has rattatas because they deter ultra beasts.

    • @TwilightChomperEnthusiast
      @TwilightChomperEnthusiast 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      I used a Zoroark lol. Ultra Necrozma’s AI isn’t able to handle it.

  • @briansilva3765
    @briansilva3765 ปีที่แล้ว +1108

    Fun Fact, in Pokémon XD Gale of Darkness, in one of the Battle CD's where you have to do certain challenges, there is a variation of this strategy where you have to beat a LV 100. Shuckle with a LV. 5 Rattata, this strategy has actually been officially acknowleadge since 2005.

    • @rhysbellagaming
      @rhysbellagaming ปีที่แล้ว +163

      Wasn't the moveset for that lvl 5 Rattata comprised of Super Fang, Toxic and Substitute? But otherwise yes I believe you are correct!

    • @ShadowOfCicero
      @ShadowOfCicero ปีที่แล้ว +127

      "The Rattata That Roared". #18, if I remember correctly.

    • @armorbearer9702
      @armorbearer9702 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Can a level 5 really prevail over a level 100?

    • @iluvchess14736
      @iluvchess14736 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      @@ShadowOfCicero its #17 but otherwise this is correct

    • @Kahadi
      @Kahadi ปีที่แล้ว +85

      Those Battle CDs were full of niche scenarios like that. I believe there was also one where you needed to beat a Medicham by forcing it to miss High Jump Kick with Protect and another where you had to find a way to deal with Explosion and Selfdestruct a lot, can't recall much about that one but I think it also involved using Protect.

  • @SemiHypercube
    @SemiHypercube ปีที่แล้ว +1897

    FEAR seems like "the oldest trick in the book" for competitive Pokemon

    • @internetguy7319
      @internetguy7319 ปีที่แล้ว +86

      Pretty much
      A more niche one is Scarf Excadrill

    • @commentatorboise3253
      @commentatorboise3253 ปีที่แล้ว +85

      @@internetguy7319 People still switch Rotom into Scarf Excadrill to this day though because it's easy to forget what breaking the mold refers to lol.
      Also includes them thinking the opponent is foolish and leaving the Rotom in.

    • @remus4283
      @remus4283 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      nah that would be toxic stall

    • @williamfalls
      @williamfalls ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Man, I feel old if gen 1 tactics isn't part of the oldest trick in the book.

    • @BlizzyP039
      @BlizzyP039 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Hahah nah FEAR can die from any indirect damage

  • @kylemckell
    @kylemckell ปีที่แล้ว +713

    Losing to FEAR honestly was a rite of passage back in gen 4 and 5. I feel like most new to competitive Pokémon players fell for it, or saw a vid about it and used it themselves. I remember thinking it was so OP when I was a kid and first encountered it. FEAR might be the coolest and funniest shock factor set in competitive Pokemon history.

    • @IschmarVI
      @IschmarVI ปีที่แล้ว +23

      just like prankster copycat roar riolu

    • @AverageEggmonEnthusiast
      @AverageEggmonEnthusiast ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Fear or a gimmic team of all the same Pokémon line. You gotta try/lose to one of them at least once. Otherwise, have you really played the game?

  • @R.P.Genocraft
    @R.P.Genocraft ปีที่แล้ว +592

    I remember making a FEAR team that was actually able to beat multi-hit move users with endure custap berry destiny bond Frillish. The only multi-hit priority move that can go before custap berry is water shuriken, which Frillish is immune to with water absorb
    That turned out to be way too specific of a situation so I switched it to Mimikyu who can actually switch into moves lol

    • @alexbeauchamp8627
      @alexbeauchamp8627 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Does it beat stealth rock?

    • @R.P.Genocraft
      @R.P.Genocraft ปีที่แล้ว +80

      @@alexbeauchamp8627 yup, since endure doesn't require you to be at full hp. But I also had other ways to handle it, such as magic guard Solosis or fake out Togedemaru, who only takes 1 damage from stealth rock and heals it with fake out + shell bell. Rapid spin Pineco is also vital to try and deny the hazards

    • @Potato_tomato47
      @Potato_tomato47 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What about hail/ sandstorm or even poison?

    • @Someone-sq8im
      @Someone-sq8im ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Awesome!

    • @YOSSARIAN313
      @YOSSARIAN313 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@Potato_tomato47 you beat it for free with stealth rock up. Any attacking move beats it with entry hazards

  • @leftistdegeneratejs
    @leftistdegeneratejs ปีที่แล้ว +413

    This is like the hurdle that separates casuals and competent competitive players, any player who is at least familiar with competitive Pokémon can easily shut down FEAR, usually on turn one, but if you’re a casual with no attention to team building you’re getting rolled.

    • @lithoselsteinii6892
      @lithoselsteinii6892 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Hell, I'd say it's a good metric between good competitive players to accurately judge their team's general ability. If your carefully crafted anti-meta team can't deal with the rat, you overspecced.

    • @energeticgorilla
      @energeticgorilla 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@lithoselsteinii6892aka if you don’t have rocks you overspecced

    • @lithoselsteinii6892
      @lithoselsteinii6892 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@energeticgorilla Well, you also need a way to get the FEAR to hit the rocks, right? So either scaring it out or phasing.

    • @energeticgorilla
      @energeticgorilla 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@lithoselsteinii6892 when they switch in? you never lead w fear. tons of teams run wisp rn regardless.

  • @tyson123123123
    @tyson123123123 ปีที่แล้ว +332

    Just a note, Endeavor/Dark Void Lvl 1 Smeargle was used in the 2009 Seattle Regional finals

    • @CyberKnightProbably
      @CyberKnightProbably ปีที่แล้ว +57

      Still waiting on dark void to return to form after the nerf to smeargle.

    • @haslittle8078
      @haslittle8078 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Came here to post this, actually. FEARgle doesn't get enough respect

    • @catandfishfc
      @catandfishfc ปีที่แล้ว +9

      The first ever World Championships was won by a Smeargle team, that might have been the same set as well.

    • @FTW1230
      @FTW1230 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@CyberKnightProbably dark void is not allowed to be good

    • @Labyrinth6000
      @Labyrinth6000 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Smeargle no longer able to learn nerf was a straight up malicious intent from Gamefreak after so many angry cries from competitive players.

  • @devin6420
    @devin6420 ปีที่แล้ว +369

    I remember finding this on Showdown while I was on high school, and for some reason it still wasn't as terrifying as petilil

    • @leeto64
      @leeto64 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      whats the deal with Petilil?

    • @devin6420
      @devin6420 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      @@leeto64 similar strat, don't remember as it's been 10+ years, leech seed, focus sash, absorb, substitute, and it just drains you slowly every turn, while ending up being unlikable

    • @obi-wankenobean594
      @obi-wankenobean594 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      You might be thinking of cottonee we since it has prankster

    • @coyraig8332
      @coyraig8332 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      @@obi-wankenobean594 I think both did the same strategy. Cottonee is just better at it.

    • @hiro702
      @hiro702 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I mean petilil is pretty scary in smash lol

  • @BlackArche0ps
    @BlackArche0ps ปีที่แล้ว +253

    I was actually thinking about this recently. And I realized one of the most underrated Pokémon for this strat is actually Tailow. It gets endeavor and quick attack but also has scrappy so it can hit ghost types.

    • @Squirtle_Squad_Supremacy
      @Squirtle_Squad_Supremacy ปีที่แล้ว +48

      Yea but it got Scrappy in Gen 5, and the sand strat with Aron seemed way better. In gens 4, killing a legendary with a Rattata looked funnier than with a Taillow

    • @danka1167
      @danka1167 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yoo black archeops

    • @spindash64
      @spindash64 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Squirtle_Squad_Supremacy
      This is what people seem to forget these days: Rattata was the poster child for Garbagemons, Pokemon you box early in your playthrough because you have something better. Sure, it could become capable of more, and we know that now with more time for that to enter public view, but at the time, no Pokémon was quite as clear of an example of “crutch character”: the early Bugs were made deliberately weak, and so was Magikarp, but Rattata’s excuse was that it was “just a rat”, and it wasn’t even failed due to movepool, just to being low stats and kind of boring to a lot of people
      So for one of the most underwhelming, underpowered, _unremarkable_ Pokémon of all time to be at the new lowest level possible of ONE, and yet somehow beat a box legendary?
      It was the very embodiment of David vs Goliath. The Unloved one quickly gained a new reputation in the popular community, one of a scrappy defiance to insurmountable odds

  • @pikabots123
    @pikabots123 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    Another weakness of fear was abilities like mold breaker that completely ignores sturdy

  • @DeckKnight
    @DeckKnight ปีที่แล้ว +499

    Can we all just pause for a moment and appreciate that Aron is one of the most adorable Pokemon ever?
    It is also the most dense I think, being a foot tall and around 230 lbs. No one is picking up this good boy.

    • @ExeloMinish
      @ExeloMinish ปีที่แล้ว +114

      Nah, the densest is Cosmoem, who fits in your hand yet has a hilariously massive weight of a damn ton. Sleepy baby star is going to be hard to top.

    • @kazzykaioken8873
      @kazzykaioken8873 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      Alot of gym guys can pick up 230lbs but it aint gonna be easy lmao especially with Aron being so small and awkward to hold

    • @MrsWhiterock
      @MrsWhiterock ปีที่แล้ว +26

      I love its adorable waddle when it gets hit by a move in Battle Revolution

    • @SabreAran
      @SabreAran ปีที่แล้ว +29

      1. Aron is adorable
      2. Aggron is dope as hell looking
      3. Hehe heh 69 likes lets goooooooo

    • @DeckKnight
      @DeckKnight ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@ExeloMinish ah, right. Planetoid orb dethroned adorable steel dino.

  • @karpa.183
    @karpa.183 ปีที่แล้ว +239

    in gen 5 there was that gamemode where you have 3 pokemon on a wheel that rotates, I remember aron being quite good there

    • @danielotano8677
      @danielotano8677 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      Rotation battle?

    • @W.T.F599
      @W.T.F599 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@danielotano8677yep

    • @an3582
      @an3582 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Oh wow, I forgot that was a thing.

    • @jabarithegoldenlucario8841
      @jabarithegoldenlucario8841 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Rotation Battles were fun. I miss them.

    • @solidzack
      @solidzack ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Rotation battles had crazy potential. I used to sweep with Shuckle in this format. Simply use power trick with Shuckle, rotate to trick room setter, then rotate back to Shuckle and commence the slaughter

  • @WishMakers
    @WishMakers ปีที่แล้ว +76

    Marriland vs. Untouchable is still one of my favorite competitive battles to watch, for a few reasons. It's incredibly dumb and the lore behind it is so nostalgic to me

  • @supernova9014
    @supernova9014 ปีที่แล้ว +108

    Shout out to Aerovalkyrie's level 1 team beating Cynthia so early in BW that it wasn't even released overseas. It utilized some FEAR strategies even weirder than what put it on the map, like leech seed loops off of a baton passed substitute from level 1 girafarig, as well as sub-protect toxic stalling.

    • @valpix7007
      @valpix7007 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      It was less than a month after it came out in *Japan!*

  • @JSmithBlog
    @JSmithBlog ปีที่แล้ว +135

    Glad this doubles as "How GOOD was Aron, ACTUALLY?"

  • @roidadadou5456
    @roidadadou5456 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    F.E.A.R is the manifestation of 'every Pokémon can win any match, if you try hard enough'.

  • @dadbodenvy4247
    @dadbodenvy4247 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    I used to challenge kids to 1v1 with their best pokemon for small amounts of money ($5,$10 etc] when I was in middle school using this strategy. I'll never forget my friends face when his level 100 palkia got beat by my ratatta lol

    • @y0mir
      @y0mir ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Man, 30 Cents used to be small amounts for me back then. 10€ made me feel rich.

  • @dullededge1395
    @dullededge1395 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    fear is the great little timmy filter
    teaching him that a team full of pokemon with only attacking moves is not gonna fly

  • @AranVibesWithStuff
    @AranVibesWithStuff ปีที่แล้ว +35

    I once ran across a fear user in Pokemon showdown but the fact that bullet punch scizor is like one of my favourite mons completely destroyed the opponent.

  • @venomgaming7014
    @venomgaming7014 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    There’s several ways to have your Pokémon counter a fear ratatta.
    1: literally any ghost type, even gastly or misdreavus will do.
    2: have a Pokémon that can learn fake out, any will do.
    3: a status effect like burn or poison to remove the effect of the sash, or get lucky with confusion.
    4: actually know how it works.
    5: multi-hit moves like icicle spear, pin missile, dragon darts or *population bomb* will suffice.

  • @samuell8721
    @samuell8721 ปีที่แล้ว +108

    New players using Mewtwo and legendaries got swept by level 1s makes me feel hilarious and fun but also hopes that they don’t get desperate and quit Pokémon after that at the same time
    Similar strats showcasing a level 10 Bunnelby beating a level 70 Mewtwo with Endeavour and Quick Attack is even on a video in the official Pokémon channel, about telling the fun of Pokémon battles to kids by beating them up with FEAR

    • @maymorales8938
      @maymorales8938 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      tbf if i had to guess a lot of those "TOXIC SALTY LEGENDARY SPAMMER GETS DESTROYED BY LITTLE CUP TEAM(WITH FACTS AND LOGIC)" videos are either staged or done on the lowest of the lowest rungs of the showdown ladder

    • @Leet-iz2fz
      @Leet-iz2fz ปีที่แล้ว +16

      There's an official video showing off FEAR? What's the title?

  • @ctnc6059
    @ctnc6059 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I had fun with FEAR Taillow at the beginning of Gen 6 when Aegislash was legal and it was way more useful than it should've been. Opponents that knew about FEAR always switched to Aegislash because Ghosts are immune to Normal Attacks, like Endeavor... or so they thought. Apparently, I was the only guy that knew Taillow's Hidden Ability was Scrappy.

  • @rhysgrealish5227
    @rhysgrealish5227 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    This is pretty much going to be “How Good was Rattata Actually”

  • @gabebrown3310
    @gabebrown3310 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    My favorite strategy by far(meme-wise)

  • @davidwilson2916
    @davidwilson2916 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Most people probably won't mention this, but I really love the artwork you use for the thumbnails of these more 'left-field' videos. It does a great job of portraying the topic in question in a humourous and energetic fashion, and helps to differentiate these niche deep-dives from your Pokemon overviews. Plus, it just looks really cool. Just thought I'd throw that out there!

  • @AhmedX8
    @AhmedX8 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Good to know that the OG Marriland came up with such a legendary strat. Seriously, his walkthroughs were so good.

  • @adamtheriault6743
    @adamtheriault6743 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    Fun fact, Barry talks about using a fear strategy with his staravia in the gen 4 games, and even uses a set of it during the journey
    If I remember correctly, he mentions using double team, endeavor, and quick attack in tandem for free KOs

    • @TheWizardMus
      @TheWizardMus ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Iirc correctly outside Heartholm he says "I've discovered the ultimate strategy, never get hit and always hit your attacks"

    • @samuelcornwell3949
      @samuelcornwell3949 ปีที่แล้ว

      I discovered this strat by accident on my first playthrough of Pearl back in 2011
      I felt like I had destroyed the game

  • @LedianReedian
    @LedianReedian ปีที่แล้ว +12

    There is another FEAR mon that i sometimes encounter on showdown: Taillow. He gets access to scrappy, and is pretty much a rattata with more weaknesses.

  • @alejandropetit6573
    @alejandropetit6573 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Idk why but I adore aaron's little walking animation in battle revolution when he gets hit

  • @josiebianchi3481
    @josiebianchi3481 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    He said the name Marriland and I fully got Ratatouille'd back to being a 6 year old child on the playground discussing the cool hip new Pokemon games for the cool hip new DS. FEAR Rattata was a mystical thing back then.

    • @sketchydude8431
      @sketchydude8431 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Funny enough I actually used a Ratata named Ratatouille when I used the FEAR strat back in the day, even if the Aron strat was deemed better

  • @widowpeak6142
    @widowpeak6142 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    This actually happened me in a Ruby playthrough! I skipped one of the very early trainers, and I ran into him long after I had beaten the Champion. For absolute overkill, I switched to my Lv90 Swampert, and my heart sank as I saw the healthbar go down and down.

  • @Edd_Harr
    @Edd_Harr ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Kinda sad Cottonee and Whimsicott's level 1 Prankster Subseed shenanigans only got a brief mention, but I guess that's content for How Good Was Whimsicott Actually

    • @munchrai6396
      @munchrai6396 ปีที่แล้ว

      Whimsicott is a sick support Pokemon. Prankster Tailwind alone is unique enough for it to preform a very unique role for the team

  • @vossboss220
    @vossboss220 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Fear is a perfect example of a skill check

    • @ShadowCatGaming26
      @ShadowCatGaming26 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The epiphany of team checks:
      1) counters Landorus in any way
      2) Balanced typings
      3) Has guaranteed anti-FEAR

    • @ShadowCatGaming26
      @ShadowCatGaming26 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Austrian American Atheist that is the requirement, either you have Landorus or something that counters him.

    • @ShadowCatGaming26
      @ShadowCatGaming26 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Austrian American Atheist it’s the meta, so there’s nothing you can do unfortunately

    • @ShadowCatGaming26
      @ShadowCatGaming26 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Austrian American Atheist yeah… or at least banned or something

  • @Tobunari
    @Tobunari ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I thought Swinub was good, because it was immune to Hail and Sandstorm.
    Focus Sash, Ice Shard, Endeavor, Swinub

  • @Poo_Brain_Horse
    @Poo_Brain_Horse ปีที่แล้ว +46

    I feel like level 1 Clefable was one of the best users of this strategy. Magic Guard protects it from having the sash broken from rocks / sand etc while it has Stealth Rocks, Knock Off, Twave etc to support if the opponent tries to switch into a ghost or Leftovers Pokemon. With hail or sand support it could often guarantee a kill at best, setup hazards and paralyze something at worse. Best of all players would see a Clefable and switch to Heatran or something assuming they were level 100 as per usual only to get nailed for 99% by Endeavor which even at full health would be devastating.

    • @shawnli4746
      @shawnli4746 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Level 2 clefable you mean? Clefairy wasn't available at lv1

    • @Poo_Brain_Horse
      @Poo_Brain_Horse ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@shawnli4746 Yeah probably lol. 5th gen was a while ago.

  • @Nikkidafox
    @Nikkidafox ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Who would win?
    A pokemon able to take down level 100 legendaries in 1 turn?
    Or a seed spittin boy?

  • @VegaPhil
    @VegaPhil ปีที่แล้ว +14

    As you said towards the end this kind of creativity helps you think up your own alternative strats. I'm a Grapploct fan and to have it be useful I use a focus sash and topsy turvy to turn the tables on stat boosters. It's pretty sweet although usually short lived

  • @dankeykang8243
    @dankeykang8243 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Kind of hoped there would've at least been a mention of the training disc in XD Gale of Darkness that pitched you, a lvl 1 Rattata against lvl 100 Aerodactyl. I think it was even called "Can a level 1 beat a level 100?" That was back in gen 3 already

  • @Pikana
    @Pikana ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I was introduced to FEAR through FEAron solo sweeping an entire opposing team, so he always holds a special place in my heart

  • @mattr75
    @mattr75 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I only vaguely heard of FEAR prior to this, so I learned quite a bit

  • @NivramAxuf
    @NivramAxuf ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I've tried to do a similar thing with Aggron. The set being Sturdy, Custap Berry, Metal Burst, Endeavor, probably Head Smash and some steel move. Man I love Aggron.

  • @valpix7007
    @valpix7007 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks for this. Marriland's TH-cam presence was a huuuuuge part of why I loved (and still love) Gen 4 to this day - and some of my foremost formative "Internet memories". I still remember the Untouchable fight well to this day.

  • @GuilitoDoinks
    @GuilitoDoinks ปีที่แล้ว +5

    If you have a Greninja that knows water shuriken, especially if it has battle bond, you completely counter the fear strategy. You'll have a priority multi hit move that can give Greninja a free transformation.

  • @donkarasu-9644
    @donkarasu-9644 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I remember doing online on Black and White on Wifi Rotation, and that battle format allowed this infamous strategy to work even more.
    Have a Sandstorm Pokemon enter and immediately rotate into Aron with Shell Bell for a one turn KO, for example.

  • @FantasyJared
    @FantasyJared ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video! Kinda surprised he didn't mention that multi-hit moves also destroy most of these strats - it's what I primarly used to deal with them.

  • @hitavi4965
    @hitavi4965 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Fear rattatta is one of the best cheese (punintended) strats ever

  • @clash_king1025
    @clash_king1025 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It’s funny watching people get absolutely destroyed by FEAR strats, but it’s arguably funnier to watch FEAR strats fail miserably

  • @dicapriodelorean2888
    @dicapriodelorean2888 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I remember hearing about FEAR in middle school and being like "no way a rattata can knock out any pokemon"

  • @brandontherabboat4850
    @brandontherabboat4850 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There are a thousand different ways to take out an enemy Pokémon, and FEAR is by far the funniest. Too bad it doesn’t work against anyone with a brain.

  • @ilikethis3203
    @ilikethis3203 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video. I'd love to see an updated remake of how good was Venusaur, actually, alla Charizard. The Bulbasaur line is some of my favorite starters.

  • @AZSprocket
    @AZSprocket ปีที่แล้ว +45

    You failed to mention that Level 1 Aron was an absolute annoyance in VGC. Sure it didn't win tournaments but it most certainly disrupted players.
    That and Perish Trap teams.

    • @enickma910
      @enickma910 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      perish trap is still a viable strategy used somewhat commonly in vgc today

  • @aidlord23
    @aidlord23 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I love these videos. They're such a fresh take on the "How Good Was ______ Actually" by examining strategies. Now I eagerly await one for Prankster, which IMO is the most OP ability in the game.

    • @matthewcass3773
      @matthewcass3773 ปีที่แล้ว

      *gholdengo is typing*

    • @aidlord23
      @aidlord23 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@matthewcass3773 "Hahaha why use Rapid Spin? We have Defog now haha get rekt entry hazards!" *Gholdengo stares motherfuckingly*

  • @alexanderlopatin3727
    @alexanderlopatin3727 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    ahhhh, the noobkiller strat. Went wild at middle school lmao

  • @AriaMain1
    @AriaMain1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Loved the pause at "And that tier was... DPP Little Cup 😐"

  • @RediteTheGemBoy
    @RediteTheGemBoy ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Multi hit moves and taunt:

  • @poejavelski148
    @poejavelski148 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The FEAR strat only works in noob battles. Stealth rock, sandstorm, etc would destroy these strats.

  • @Magic_Ice
    @Magic_Ice ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fear actually stands for
    F*cking
    Evil
    Annoying
    Rodent

  • @730Flare
    @730Flare ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I remember watching Marriland's game where he used that strategy. My god that was 15+ years ago, how time flies.

  • @The_Dim_Vanced
    @The_Dim_Vanced ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Even if it's mostly useless, FEAR Aron helped me win Triple Battles in the Battle Maison
    I reckon it must be the most useful it's ever been there

  • @nybethobdilord6912
    @nybethobdilord6912 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Surprised Smeargle didn't get mentioned since it could not only abuse this strat but also use it in conjunction with Spore and spikes.

  • @stllr_
    @stllr_ ปีที่แล้ว

    this was good. i liked this one. putting aron's dpp lc stint in there at the end was a nice touch. i'm glad y'all care again.

  • @SpottedAlien
    @SpottedAlien ปีที่แล้ว

    I really liked the format of this video! Highlighting a strategy, then highlighting a Pokemon that used it in a competitive tier towards the end, whether they used that strategy in the tier or otherwise.

  • @MrMonkey2150
    @MrMonkey2150 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love that pretty much the easiest way to beat this is just by switching

  • @AdaptiveReasoning
    @AdaptiveReasoning ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I know FEAR wasn't the best strategy, but it was powerful enough that you had to account for it when team building. And if you saw a little guy in team preview you had to make sure to save the right guys to handle it. Losing to FEAR was too embarrassing. So it did shape the meta even if you didn't see it terribly often.

    • @Natibe_
      @Natibe_ ปีที่แล้ว +20

      If your team is completely without ghost, ground, rock, and steel types, has no priority, nothing with leftovers, and no multi hit moves, you probably didn’t build a good team in the first place. You had to actively avoid making counters for FEAR to lose to it or, more likely, be dumb enough to lose your counter to it before it came in, in which case it wasn’t FEAR you lost to, it was yourself.

    • @AdaptiveReasoning
      @AdaptiveReasoning ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​@@Natibe_ You may be in some respect correct but I also think by the tone I'm getting that perhaps you should go outside.

    • @devilman4723
      @devilman4723 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I don't think you needed to account for FEAR when team building, it's just something that you end up countering by virtue of making a halfway viable team. Fake Out, leftovers, any multi hit move, changing the weather, status, etc all shut it down and were just an ordinary part of team building instead of something to be consciously aware of

    • @Mingha0
      @Mingha0 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@AdaptiveReasoning I mean your original statement is just flat out wrong though. Not one of my teams was built with FEAR in mind and yet on the very rare occasions I run into it I beat it easily. Additionally, in serious play you don’t see it at all so even if you somehow had no way to beat it you would be fine. Natibe isn’t “in some aspect” correct, they’re completely correct and you’re trying to invalidate it with the “touch grass” argument as if it makes you right.

    • @AdaptiveReasoning
      @AdaptiveReasoning ปีที่แล้ว

      No. I was correct. They are also correct. You did have to think about FEAR when building a team, especially if you were new, it was possible to accidentally put the wrong six pokemon together and not realize it until you ran into the baby rock lizard, (especially in lower tiers). If you knew what you were doing (by nature of "getting good") you would probably have your bases covered. They are right in that respect.
      They (and y'all) just have a tone problem and need some perspective. What I said isn't that big a deal. We're in the TH-cam comments, we're strangers, this is about a video game and a meta that I did dabble in at the time it was current. And I do remember when I would put stuff together that I did think about it a wee bit. That is all.
      Go in peace, be at peace, this isn't something you get snippy about. Everything y'all said you could have said more politely and I wouldn't have said anything.

  • @tktyga77
    @tktyga77 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice mini double feature there. That said, one could say the FEAR strategy is the opposite of the Baton Pass strategy in terms of competitive usability & especially skill needed.

  • @Hellscream_9999
    @Hellscream_9999 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is what I had hoped to get from this channel, love it. Would love one on prankster.

  • @ccckk3639
    @ccckk3639 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    don't let this distract you from the fact that he finally pronounced reuniclus properly!

  • @kyallon1213
    @kyallon1213 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Happy aron gets its moment. What a cute little rock goober

  • @reycoswanson
    @reycoswanson ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My first experience was Aron in gen 5 wifi battles. I didnt even know about evs or nautures either at the time so you can imagine my dumbfoundry of what had happened to me.

  • @gavin479
    @gavin479 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember doing this when I played DP competitive online. Even used to upload and commentate my battles. The good old competitive Pokémon days

  • @funkymachine
    @funkymachine ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I wish you mentioned some level 100 Pokémon use focus sash endeavor priority too, like gen 4 lead Infernape and mamoswine (sometimes). Another is alot of Pokémon with sturdy using countercoat.

  • @azulstarry6961
    @azulstarry6961 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Ghost types laugh at this

  • @GeorgeCowsert
    @GeorgeCowsert 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It's because of stuff like this why Stealth Rock, Spikes, Leech Seed, Toxic, Infestation, Sandstorm, and Hail all exist.
    All hail the almighty passive damage.

  • @Blaziken36
    @Blaziken36 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I remember back in high school, I had a friend say there was no way my legitimate level one Rattata could defeat his level 100 Pokémon. I told him it was possible and I was willing to bet money on it. After a week, we brought our DS’s to our science class and EVERYONE was HYPED to watch the battle and everyone hurdled over to watch us, thinking I was going to get sweeped. I quickly won and got a $50 gift card, and it wasn’t until the battle ended that he said “Ohhhhhh I should’ve known you were gonna use that strategy” even though he said previously he couldn’t think of how I could win without cheats. Good times.

  • @huyphan7825
    @huyphan7825 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Ah yes, the FEAR tactic. AKA: "I'll stop cheating as soon as you stop spamming minmaxed legendaries."

  • @CyberKnightProbably
    @CyberKnightProbably ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I recall thinking of this idea by accident late in Gen 5 as a kid, when I had this thought of packing endeavor on a Pokémon and finding a good priority move as a cheap KO, of course I never thought to choose a LV1 Pokémon because I thought every mon allowed in PWT/battle subway was set to LV50, but I didn’t think it would be a real competitive strategy at the time.

    • @vitovitovito4927
      @vitovitovito4927 ปีที่แล้ว

      and it never was an real competitive strategy xd

  • @dogindagrass
    @dogindagrass ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Aron has a a special place in my heart. it was easily 10 years ago when it happened but I used to go to pokemon league for the TCG but I also brought my DS sometimes to battle people. I absolutely wrecked the floor with some kid using that Aron strategy then traded him that little monster, I have no idea what he did with it since then, lol

  • @f4Rl34ng3Igrl
    @f4Rl34ng3Igrl ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i got stomped by FEAR the first time i played an online battle in Diamond and that got me into competitive battling. great video!

  • @deltalord6969
    @deltalord6969 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Honestly the main use I had for this was using it to get Pokémon down to 1 hp so I could catch them easier in game.

    • @__cdecl4085
      @__cdecl4085 ปีที่แล้ว

      false swipe is much better for that purpose

    • @dengar96
      @dengar96 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You were burning a focus sash to catch wild pokemon? I could see sturdy strats but why not just false swipe?

    • @internetguy7319
      @internetguy7319 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@dengar96 in scarlet and violet you don't lose your focus sash after the battle

  • @TheShardsFamily
    @TheShardsFamily ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Now imagine if dugtrio had endeavor and extreme speed with nothing added to defenses or hp and a focus sash

  • @AllBladesCut
    @AllBladesCut 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    All u need to beat this is one of the following.
    - priority
    - multi-hits
    - stealth rocks
    - spikes
    - a ghost type
    - trick room
    - lagging tail
    - tera ghost
    - leftovers
    - encore
    - tricking a choice item
    - flinches
    - Roar/whirlwind
    - mold breaker/ magic room
    - rocky helmet
    - spiky shield
    - burn
    - toxic
    - a lucky paralyze
    - trap move (whirlpool magma storm)
    - substitute
    it ur team is decent u probably have at minimum 1-2 of these.

  • @chi3fross
    @chi3fross ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m a doubles player mainly but interestingly enough there’s a few sets running around with sash endeavor in the VGC metagame as well. They’ve fallen off a but recently but back in series 1 Lycanroc and Salazzle both sometimes used it as an answer for Dondozo

  • @RomansDowntime
    @RomansDowntime ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Literally knew what this was the second I saw Ratata. So many viable counters, but nothing beats the feeling of pulling this off on someone. “60% of the time, it works every time.”

  • @ianr.navahuber2195
    @ianr.navahuber2195 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The classic Endeavor / Pain Split + Sturdy / Focus Sash + Shell Bell + Quick Attack strategy that I never properly knew how to use it

  • @hessiankyojin
    @hessiankyojin ปีที่แล้ว

    So proud to discover the FEAR strat back in 2008 with my old af Sony Ericsson phone from the same Marriland video against the Empoleon.

  • @heliosr4057
    @heliosr4057 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's always fun to see that the "Most replayed" part of most videos these days is the end of the ad read.

  • @monster3339
    @monster3339 ปีที่แล้ว

    god..... i first started watching competitive pokemon in gen 4, and marrilands silly gimmick vids were such a delight to me, so i remember FEAR vividly.

  • @elYIiLy
    @elYIiLy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the only time i tried to use fear was on a gen5 hail team with solosis, most of the time it didn't get to set up or if it did it would get ruined by pursuit or priority, it did work once though where i faced a team with no opposing weather and saved it until the late game, was pretty funny that one time but probably never again, great video :)

  • @haloeightYT
    @haloeightYT ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember seeing videos of this strat so many years ago. Probably my first exposure to competitive Pokemon

  • @sierranicholes6712
    @sierranicholes6712 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    as someone who never really was involved in competitive pokemon, when i learned about FEAR it was one of the first time i really realized how strategic pokemon could actually be. as a kid who never used setup moves and rarely used items, i had never seen what the appeal would be of competitive pokemon, so FEAR and whatever that one shuckle strategy was definitely opened my eyes!!

  • @Seetiyan
    @Seetiyan ปีที่แล้ว

    14:15 The way croagunk danced/waddled its way across the field. Ha!

  • @DarkSpiritShleah
    @DarkSpiritShleah ปีที่แล้ว +1

    FEAR is every newcomer’s of rite of passage into the deeper nuances of Pokémon, competitive or otherwise.

  • @tristanbowles7258
    @tristanbowles7258 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In some draft leagues, I have encountered FEAR Infernape. They are level 50 and set up Rocks, then use Endevor and Mach Punch (if they didn’t die)

  • @Zamtrios245
    @Zamtrios245 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    FEAR is like a fool's mate in chess.
    Never used seriously, used to teach new players always to look ahead/for the gimmick