Just because you are experiencing this issue does not 100% guarantee it’s the starter reply, more likely than not it will not be the relay, first we check for a good connection at the terminals making sure they are tight and clean, the bad connection can even be at the starter itself and of course this is also a sign of a starter going bad, I’m not saying it is your starter but not always your relay, as a bad starter get worse you will notice you will require more turns of the key before your vehicle will crank over until one day if will never crank over, sometimes tapping the bad starter itself with a hammer will allow it to crank, obviously checking for a bad starter would be the last option, so connection , then relay and then starter is how we wanna diagnose it. This is my experience as a Honda mechanic.
My Honda Accord 2013 is having the exact intermittent ignition problem. The only difference is that my car has a push button ignition. It’s not my battery so I’ll definitely check the relay. You are God sent. Thank you.
So I needed this part and was lazy calling a fully licensed 3rd party Honda parts dealer in Boston Bernardi Honda. I had concerns about the part not bring compatible with my 2015 Honda. But after watching your video and taking screen shots, yes I have the exact save wiring harness under the hood. Bernardi Honda parts rep said no you cannot buy the ignition relay circuit board! You must purchase the entire wiring harness. I said hey man comnon sense says they wouldn't manufacture cars where you would have to rewire an entire harness with all those fuses a s relays. That's hundreds of tiny wires!!! In the end, he have me the relays part number and quoted $29.98/ea! I passed and called my local guy here 20mi west of Chicago, Spar Mobile/Forn Auto. Ordered at just before 3pm cutoff, they had it in my hands the next day! Thier their driver went somewhere and brought it back! Can't say enough good things about them. Been using then for over 20yrs and they know what your talking about plus are usually 30% cheaper than the steakershios! Just my 2 cents
I'm tempted to pull out the new box and check the pins like you did, but after fighting to get all the connections and fit it, I'm hesitant. Do not want to fight with this connections with no slack!! And I'm an electrician btw😉
hello Commerce! I have exact same starter relay problem like yours. Could you send us a link where we can purchase OEM relays? Yeah i agree it is very dumb that Honda put relays in that box...
Great vid! Thanks to this video I was able to get to the bottom of my issue with the radiator fan (driver side) on my 2016 accord sport. The radiator fan wasn't kicking in whenever I started the car (with ac on) and only would start if I touch the blade really quick, I thought the fan motor was failing so I ordered a new fan motor and replaced the relay module.
I've been having the same exact issue. Unfortunately, I was told by the mechanics to replace the battery, then they said the starter, then the alternator. It still continued....
Just went through a nightmare with my ac system. Symptom was when i first start the car ac would work for the first 5 seconds then fans and compressor would disengage. Car never overheats. Car has 225xxx miles so went ahead and replaced the ac system. Compressor, expansion valve, high pressure switch and condensor. Got new refrigerent in there and what do you know same thing happened. After finding out the system is a high low system got the haynes manual and check the wiring diagram. Figured out this same relay circuit board controls the condensor fan. Such a stupid design. Would you be able to tell me which relays are the fan control relay and the ac condenser fan relay. The manual doesnt go in depth any help would be appreciated!
Hey thank you for making such incredibly helpful videos! I'm watching them all and subscribed. Anyway I got the exact replacement part and installed it. What a hassle trying to get the female plugs from the harness into the new board, no slack at all!!! Ok so now it starts much more often as compared to my old ignition relay cucuit board. Thing is it's NOT starting every time. The board is brand new from a very reputable parts house. Checked all the fuses in the box under the hood... Please respond and just give me your two cents.
Thank you Sir for your speedy reply!! Starter is good and strong. Problem persists. I'm going to swap back to the original board. Think I may be an idiot and accidentally confused them as I was doing it at 3am. Hope that's the issue! Otherwise I'm taking it in and don't want to spend money like that.
I may have the same problem with my 2014 Honda Accord ex, I asked at AutoZone, advance auto parts and at O'Reilly's, they didn't find it in their system, do have any idea where I could get this@@amguy01
My 2014 Honda accord turns off after being driven in serve heat after. Could this be the problem? Replaced starter and crank shaft sensor. Only has problem in heat
Same happens to my brothers if he uses it for his commute from work (1 hour drive la traffic) once you turn it off and try to start it again it won’t! Noticed today that the rear pump makes no noise when key is turned. Same with yours? Honda told me it was the high pressure pump but we replaced it and same issue
I pulled the starter relay out but cannot get the connectors loose. The only way I see to disconnect the connectors is to remove the whole relay box. .....................Well I give up. I can't get the relay out so I'm taking it to the shop. I'll let them do it.
Hello iam confused have a 2015 honda accord coupe exl 2.4engine have done alot seaching and when i look up that part it tells me it has something to do the the seats is it a multi functional relay box that controls many things or are the starter relays separate from that box thanks
Thank you for the video. Question. Same model and year. Car died while driving. Dead battery. Battery replaced. I’m only getting one click from starter. No crank. Can this be related to this video. Thank you for any information.
Has anyone managed to remove the relay board under the black plastic cover? 2:21 I can only raise the cover about an inch and I cant get to the connectors underneath. Thanks
Just went through a nightmare with my ac system. Symptom was when i first start the car ac would work for the first 5 seconds then fans and compressor would disengage. Car never overheats. Car has 225xxx miles so went ahead and replaced the ac system. Compressor, expansion valve, high pressure switch and condensor. Got new refrigerent in there and what do you know same thing happened. After finding out the system is a high low system got the haynes manual and check the wiring diagram. Figured out this same relay circuit board controls the condensor fan. Such a stupid design. Would you be able to tell me which relays are the fan control relay and the ac condenser fan relay. The manual doesnt go in depth any help would be appreciated!
The car was flooded I swapped out the engine hoping everything would be good now it won’t crank or start I noticed that there is a green key flashing on the dash never had that before but I’m going to test the starter see what happens
Just because you are experiencing this issue does not 100% guarantee it’s the starter reply, more likely than not it will not be the relay, first we check for a good connection at the terminals making sure they are tight and clean, the bad connection can even be at the starter itself and of course this is also a sign of a starter going bad, I’m not saying it is your starter but not always your relay, as a bad starter get worse you will notice you will require more turns of the key before your vehicle will crank over until one day if will never crank over, sometimes tapping the bad starter itself with a hammer will allow it to crank, obviously checking for a bad starter would be the last option, so connection , then relay and then starter is how we wanna diagnose it. This is my experience as a Honda mechanic.
My Honda Accord 2013 is having the exact intermittent ignition problem. The only difference is that my car has a push button ignition. It’s not my battery so I’ll definitely check the relay. You are God sent. Thank you.
same, I just replaced the starter (NOT cheap) and it still has this issue. Going to try this next! Thank you
So I needed this part and was lazy calling a fully licensed 3rd party Honda parts dealer in Boston Bernardi Honda.
I had concerns about the part not bring compatible with my 2015 Honda.
But after watching your video and taking screen shots, yes I have the exact save wiring harness under the hood.
Bernardi Honda parts rep said no you cannot buy the ignition relay circuit board! You must purchase the entire wiring harness. I said hey man comnon sense says they wouldn't manufacture cars where you would have to rewire an entire harness with all those fuses a s relays. That's hundreds of tiny wires!!!
In the end, he have me the relays part number and quoted $29.98/ea! I passed and called my local guy here 20mi west of Chicago, Spar Mobile/Forn Auto.
Ordered at just before 3pm cutoff, they had it in my hands the next day! Thier their driver went somewhere and brought it back! Can't say enough good things about them. Been using then for over 20yrs and they know what your talking about plus are usually 30% cheaper than the steakershios!
Just my 2 cents
Thanks for the tip. Spanish on point brother 👌🏽
Thanks bro
I'm tempted to pull out the new box and check the pins like you did, but after fighting to get all the connections and fit it, I'm hesitant. Do not want to fight with this connections with no slack!! And I'm an electrician btw😉
hello Commerce! I have exact same starter relay problem like yours.
Could you send us a link where we can purchase OEM relays?
Yeah i agree it is very dumb that Honda put relays in that box...
Great vid!
Thanks to this video I was able to get to the bottom of my issue with the radiator fan (driver side) on my 2016 accord sport.
The radiator fan wasn't kicking in whenever I started the car (with ac on) and only would start if I touch the blade really quick, I thought the fan motor was failing so I ordered a new fan motor and replaced the relay module.
this was the problem with my car ... after being tricked by mechanics to buy new battery, new starter , this was the solution
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Ahhh. Honda and their thousand relays setup. This is one car I use my Uactivate on everytime.
Thank you for taking the time to make this video. It has helped me tremendously.....
I've seen them fail before, the part itself is not too bad from the dealer, around $70.
What is the part number for this part or specific name of it?? 3:13
@@GerardoIx It's called a Relay Circuit Board. This is a part number for 1 of them. I think they vary in years 38830-TLA-A01
@@advancedleveldiagnostics thanks bro, most people never respond😒
I've been having the same exact issue. Unfortunately, I was told by the mechanics to replace the battery, then they said the starter, then the alternator. It still continued....
Thank you for the video...I have the exact problem. Anyone know the part number to replace this module. I can't find it anywhere.
Just went through a nightmare with my ac system. Symptom was when i first start the car ac would work for the first 5 seconds then fans and compressor would disengage. Car never overheats. Car has 225xxx miles so went ahead and replaced the ac system. Compressor, expansion valve, high pressure switch and condensor. Got new refrigerent in there and what do you know same thing happened. After finding out the system is a high low system got the haynes manual and check the wiring diagram. Figured out this same relay circuit board controls the condensor fan. Such a stupid design. Would you be able to tell me which relays are the fan control relay and the ac condenser fan relay. The manual doesnt go in depth any help would be appreciated!
Help thanks .. I jumped 2 to 1 and still no start I’m not getting power to my starter what can be my problem on my 2013 Honda accord sport
Hey thank you for making such incredibly helpful videos! I'm watching them all and subscribed.
Anyway I got the exact replacement part and installed it. What a hassle trying to get the female plugs from the harness into the new board, no slack at all!!!
Ok so now it starts much more often as compared to my old ignition relay cucuit board.
Thing is it's NOT starting every time. The board is brand new from a very reputable parts house. Checked all the fuses in the box under the hood...
Please respond and just give me your two cents.
Your starter might be failing.. a mechanic should check it out..
Thank you Sir for your speedy reply!!
Starter is good and strong. Problem persists. I'm going to swap back to the original board. Think I may be an idiot and accidentally confused them as I was doing it at 3am. Hope that's the issue! Otherwise I'm taking it in and don't want to spend money like that.
I may have the same problem with my 2014 Honda Accord ex, I asked at AutoZone, advance auto parts and at O'Reilly's, they didn't find it in their system, do have any idea where I could get this@@amguy01
Thank you so much for your video,it’s so helpful
Hi, great video, bery helpful. Do you have the link to where you replace the relay on the board? Or am i just missing it?
How did you pull out the the black starter relay module out? Something prevents me from pulling it completely out? Thank you!!
My 2014 Honda accord turns off after being driven in serve heat after. Could this be the problem? Replaced starter and crank shaft sensor. Only has problem in heat
Same happens to my brothers if he uses it for his commute from work (1 hour drive la traffic) once you turn it off and try to start it again it won’t! Noticed today that the rear pump makes no noise when key is turned. Same with yours? Honda told me it was the high pressure pump but we replaced it and same issue
What is the P/N for that whole starter relay box you pulled out? Thanks for good video. Big Help!!!
Relay, Module - Honda (38830-T2A-A01) for Acoord
I pulled the starter relay out but cannot get the connectors loose. The only way I see to disconnect the connectors is to remove the whole relay box. .....................Well I give up. I can't get the relay out so I'm taking it to the shop. I'll let them do it.
it could be a weak solder on the relay.some re-soldering will correct the problem.much like hodas bad DRL relay box in the past if you remember
Thanks, I checked the joints and they were all firm, I think the relay was just faulty, I'm going to disassemble it once I replace it.
Great video
No link in description m
What if the test light does not light up on the ground pin #5 when starter button is held?
very informative
Thank you 🙏
Hello iam confused have a 2015 honda accord coupe exl 2.4engine have done alot seaching and when i look up that part it tells me it has something to do the the seats is it a multi functional relay box that controls many things or are the starter relays separate from that box thanks
Thank you for the video. Question. Same model and year. Car died while driving. Dead battery. Battery replaced. I’m only getting one click from starter. No crank. Can this be related to this video. Thank you for any information.
It can or the starter itself..
@@globalcommerce7654 thank you. I will try to remove the starter next.
Has anyone managed to remove the relay board under the black plastic cover? 2:21 I can only raise the cover about an inch and I cant get to the connectors underneath. Thanks
How did you pull out the black relay module? something prevents me from pulling it completely out... Thanks in advance for your advise!
Same ! I noticed a few other people have the same problem. I wish someone would answer.!
Do you have the link to the relay set up you were talking about? I can’t find it!
I repair them,some times cold solder and some times needs a relay,but fixable
Just went through a nightmare with my ac system. Symptom was when i first start the car ac would work for the first 5 seconds then fans and compressor would disengage. Car never overheats. Car has 225xxx miles so went ahead and replaced the ac system. Compressor, expansion valve, high pressure switch and condensor. Got new refrigerent in there and what do you know same thing happened. After finding out the system is a high low system got the haynes manual and check the wiring diagram. Figured out this same relay circuit board controls the condensor fan. Such a stupid design. Would you be able to tell me which relays are the fan control relay and the ac condenser fan relay. The manual doesnt go in depth any help would be appreciated!
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Where can i buy the relay assembely from? 6:32
What's this part called again? I'm having the same issue
Did you happen to find out about what the part is called, im having trouble finding it
Relay circuit board
does your starter just hum sometimes....it doesnt engage tho ?
Mine won’t start I have a 2016 Honda accord sport and when I turn over the switch that relay clicks is that normal?
You need to test the starter as well and make sure it's working
The car was flooded I swapped out the engine hoping everything would be good now it won’t crank or start I noticed that there is a green key flashing on the dash never had that before but I’m going to test the starter see what happens
I have this exact problem...can't find a replacement anywhere. Anyone know the part number for this relay module?
Can't get the right p/n for the relay assembly unit.
Could you post the part #?
For accord Relay, Module - Honda (38830-T2A-A01)
same/similar to toyota integration relay
Yes and better than dodge/chrysler tipm what it's soldered on fusebox board!