Very brave of you, even if they take it well I hope you're prepared for a lot of questioning. What's the main reason you're going to give to them for why you don't believe?
Ow shit, their going to send you to conversion camp where all the councelors touch the kids who go there. Take a knife with you if you can, and dont drink or eat anything you dont see them consume yourself.
It's almost like the biblical authors wrote not as inspired by an all loving timeless and absolutely moral god, but simply according to their times and cultures. About slavery, women, children, everything.
And isn't that the point - Human Authors wrote these rules for themselves and their convenience and they and other humans declared these words to be "God's Law"... And for literally thousands of years, other humans suffered because of those long dead Humans - and God said Nothing...
My excuse was always that this slavery was actually indentured servitude, but the beating verse made me question that. My question is if you could command a people not to eat pork or shellfish, why couldn’t you command them not to own other human beings?
Mixed fabrics? Non-negotiable. Fashion crime punishable by death. Owning a guy or a bunch of guys or, heck, a family or two? Well... Y'know, just, like, don't beat them too hard, m'kay?
My parents don't blink an eye at biblical slavery which teaches masters to beat disobedient slaves and killing a person with stones for picking up sticks on the wrong day of the week yet get so upset about a trans person being on Jeopardy. It's mind bending.
@@jezebelvibes Sorry to hear that. In the past when I have brought up troublesome verses I am told to stop saying lies from the devil. Its insane. Plus I have heard them joking at the idea of trans people getting hurt. I have told them they are in a cult but it makes little difference.
old people, 😆, like your parents often refer to the universal truth that there is a scientific reason for making the windshield bigger than the rearview mirror. because what you focus on, is what you become. if you're always looking in the rearview mirror, you're never going to have a hope in hell of a life worth living, if you give yourself over to rumination. that's the root of all mental illness. depression is living in regrets. anxiety is fear of the future, because you haven't reconciled your regrets. this "influencer" is not going to help 1 person. its the blind leading the blind. it's your choice. move forward ( not possible without forgiveness); or stay stuck, miserable, confused forever. it's your choice. welcome to life on life's terms. your welcome.
Agree, it’s beyond words how ANY saying we know what LOVE is from this book but will not bother their ❤️ reading any ridiculous words and stories from this book God😅
A better moral standard than God? Or better moral standards than Jewish scribes who wrote words claiming to be God's word Human kind has always had problems.... If you think you know the answer...and quit thinking...that is a problem too
Whenever anyone claims there is a supernatural being that provides humans with a moral standard, I remember that the Baptist, Presbyterian, and Methodist churches split over the issue of slavery. That’s why there are still _Southern_ Baptist and _Southern_ Methodist churches.
Heard somewhere there was a civil war too. The mad man said " every drop of blood drawn with the lash shall be paid by another drawn with the sword as was said three thousand years ago so still it must be said 'the judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether.'
Slavery is also enshrined the Ten Commandments: “You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, or his male slave, or his female slave, or his ox, or his donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor.” Even though some Bible versions use the more polite word "servant" even though slave is more accurate as they are listed with wives, oxen, and donkeys as things that "belong" to someone. Talking about how wives (and daughters) were owned by their husbands and fathers, thus making them slaves is a whole other topic. There are plenty of rules in the Bible about how to sell daughters, including accepting payment from a man who raped a daughter and having him marry her.
The fact is that these words are as authoritative in judaism today as in the old days. They do not admit it but they are. They try to cover it up by saying "those are deprecated instructions" from antiquity and beyond. To the tribe "god of israel is eternal" meaning those hints are forever relevant. Today it is slavery by usury. The god of israel instructs them to lend on interest to foreigners it even says 'ye shall exact it again" referring to compound interest which is a genocidal killer type of usury. At the same time he is prohibiting israelites to lend to one another on interest. The text says: "if you listen to my advice you will be blessed in every land you enter to possess it." Isnt that exactly what they have been doing everywhere until their bankers succeeded to build up the international usury system? Now they can settle back after the "6" days of work while the bankers hold the breasts of the earth in their hands controlling countries, continents and the entire earth. Now their calendar is at 5784. The six days are almost over and they need to implement yet another world war. The most distructive of all to gain superiority over all the nations before they enter the 7th millenea. I have been studying the secrets of judaism for sometime now. I know it sounds outlandish. This is what they are going to do because what you think are just prophecies in reality are the plans, the blueprint and the behavioural instructions in allegorical form. In the form of mythological stories. All instructions written there are authoritative today including taking slaves from other nations.
And the “honor the Sabbath” commandment orders that your male and female slaves (who are likely foreigners and worship a foreign god) must also honor the Hebrew Sabbath.
Maybe if the people who want the 10 commandments posted in public buildings actually had to read the full text of the commandments, they would at least start to understand why the rest of us are so upset and against this.
Please don't ever stop what you are doing, you are among the best if not the best on TH-cam. The way you present the facts is undeniable. You and your efforts to make these videos are EXTREMELY appreciated!
Anti-slavery verses: (Exodus 21: 16 ,Deuteronomy 24: 7, Exodus 21: 26-27, Deuteronomy 23: 15) and (Psalm 118: 8-9, Psalms 146: 3, Revelation 22:9) all say that worship is to God only, not humans or even angels and Galatians 3: 28 says all are equal. She said there were no verses like these 🤣
@@Xinime You're making yourself look silly here. Deuteronomy 24:7 states "If someone is caught kidnapping a fellow ISRAELITE and treating or selling them as a slave, the kidnapper must die. You must purge the evil from among you." And if you take the time to read ALL of Exodus 21 you can see god has rules you must follow when you do own a slave, as long as it's not an ISRAELITE! Anyone else is fair game.
Deeds outweigh words, here. So, she did not, outright fail. How did, slavery, using in any way, Leviticus 25 or Exodus 21, in justification, meanwhile, ever resurface, in medieval onward, Christendom? And how much of that, is due perhaps in part, to divine lassitude, or inaction also? As He was, very, very clear, if He wanted people punished, for gathering firewood on Sabbath, or hiding Jericho loot (as Achan, and whole family, memorably, did - and terminally, too)@@Xinime
I’m sorry but did you read that out loud as you typed it ? There are rules if you do own a slave ??????? OWNING OTHER PEOPLE IS WRONG ! Period . There is no pretty way to make excuses for your holy book written supposedly by God to be encouraging or defending slavery
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The Bible forbids slavery. "And he that stealeth a man, and selleth him, or if he be found in his hand, he shall surely be put to death" (Exodus 21:16, KJV). Even now, Republicans and Democrats are using illegal aliens as slaves (Revelation 18:13, KJV). That's one reason why the Lord Jesus Christ shall soon judge and destroy the USA for its crimes against humanity. "The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God" (Psalm 9:17, KJV). Even so, come, Lord Jesus! Establish the Kingdom in Jerusalem and save the world from the tyranny of Democracy (Daniel 7:7, KJV)!
@@davidlafleche1142 The verse you quote says he that "STEALETH a man!" It does NOT say "he that OWNS a man!" This verse could simply be referring to stealing another man's slave. It is NOT clear about this.
@@raysalmon6566, well every different Church accused other church of “misrepresenting” the Bible. Once Christians come up with correct interpretations we can talk.
When I talked to my uncle - he describes himself a "Calvinist-leaning" Christian - I tried to reason with him by saying during the ancient and medieval eras (the time when everyone were still very religious), slavery was the norm and it was modern humanism and not religion that led to the end of slavery and gave human lives greater quality. He just plainly said "Well, if the Bible endorses slavery in certain parts, then I will be fine with slavery if it still largely exists because the Bible - and thus God - said so."
At least he is honest about it. Many claim the Bible to be the perfect word of God but then lie about what it says. Ie it was just indentured servitude, etc. ignoring both that (a) the indentured servant who got married or had a kid while indentured had to either become a slave for life with his wife and child or leave his wife and child as slaves for life) and (b) that there were separate rules for non-Hebrew slaves that was straight chattel slavery. They further ignore that many of the laws in the South on slavery were adapted literally from the Bible and act like Southern slavery was completely different (usually pointing only to the verses about not owning your fellow Isrealite.)
@@mattf5935 oh wow. That last part made more historical sense to me now. The Southern USA is the modern-day Bible Belt, and they are mostly Confederate states. Nice insight.
Why do you only find William Wilberforce, a Christian, the one that led the fight to end slavery? I would like to know who in fact did lead the fight then
This is a crazy topic because nothing makes Christians squirm more, or get more defensive, then when you bring up slavery in the Bible (because I think deep down they know it's a "game over" topic), and yet... it's shocking how at the end of the day SO MANY are ultimately just willing to outright defend slavery in order to maintain their belief. It's absolutely wild, and it's incredible that despite defending slavery or dismissing it or completely gaslighting you over what the Bible says in order to not address it, Christians actually think they have the high-ground over atheist/agnostics when it comes to models of morality.
Yes slavery is endorsed in both the Old and New Testament but religious people they will make excuses for the indentured servitude and outright ignore the chattel slavery that is clearly present and endorsed in the Wholly Fables aka the Bible.
@@Gringo7213 "And he that stealeth a man, and selleth him, or if he be found in his hand, he shall surely be put to death" (Exodus 21:16, KJV). That's why the USA deserved to go through the Civil War. Even today, Republicans and Democrats are using illegal aliens as slaves (Revelation 18:13, KJV). That's one reason why the Lord Jesus Christ shall soon destroy the entire global economic system.
@@undrwatropium3724 The Supreme Deity, of the Bible, gets blamed for many things. ...and this Deity never lives longer than one solar year of 12 months.
Abrahamic religions endorsed slavery because that's the relationship they have with their God, Master-Slave. The slave is supposed to obey his master even if the latter is unfair. The same thing is expected from the believers in regards to God; Don't question him, just submit.
Actually they created a god that is a a slave owner because they lived in a society that had this relationship as a prominent part. They projected their own values onto this higher being.
The penalty for kidnapping someone into slavery was death. Many sold themselves into servitude for money..term was 6 years..There is slavery..worse in my opinion..in your area today (human trafficking..underage sex workers) You can blame our weak politicians for that..Not God! MLK would find this reasoning ridiculous..obviously with good reason!!
Islam, even though not banning slavery, endorses buying freedom of slaves as a righteous act. "It is not righteousness that ye turn your faces to the East and the West; but righteous is he who believeth in Allah and the Last Day and the angels and the Scripture and the Prophets; and giveth his wealth, for love of Him, to kinsfolk and to orphans and the needy and the wayfarer and to those who ask, and to set slaves free..." (Quran 2/177)
@@johncena12366 yes but you can still beat your slaves in islam, and you're allowed to buy them and have sex with as many sex slaves as you want even if they were married, like when prophet muhammad (pbuh) killed the husband of the jewish woman safiyya and claimed her
These books were written by German and French jesuits. These books are not as old as they kerp telling us. History of the world was written by German jesuits. They made up ficticious heroes and characters in a world of their imaginations. They wrote entire volumes they attribute from antiquity, with forged fragments of texts. Our history is all lies.
@bibletrivialistsandstats the Christian god had a special place for the Israelites, and it's known that Israelites weren't to be taken as slaves. That, and the story being completely fictional really makes it lose all purpose. I've known Christians to practically read Genesis upside down to make it make sense, so looser interpretation really means nothing to me. In terms of deconstructing, I'm also not the person to talk to about the god of the Bible because I don't believe because it's not in the real world. That's right, an imaginary friend.
@bibletrivialistsandstats On Exodus, I don't care about your opinion. Do your own research. It's well known beyond the supernatural claims that the trip the Israelites supposedly had was impossible. I don't see medical records released about what doctors thought was wrong with her. She talks about a brain injury, a brain tumor, and no treatment of physical therapy, but unable to grip things making a head injury more likely. No medical records have been released from what I can tell. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Sounds like something that people who want to believe will choose to do so, and the actual explanation isn't very clear. If you have objective material on the matter, feel free to point me to them, but it was nice talking to you.
Just starting the video but this reminded me of the time my step-brother insisted that the Bible didn't condone slavery by 1. pretending that "condone" meant enthusiastically encouraging it and calling it a good thing and 2. by pointing to a passage (I think it may have been in the book of Titus) where Paul sent a slave friend of his back to the slave master with a letter requesting the slave master release the slave so that he could travel with Paul. Utterly ridiculous. It's crazy the lengths some people will go to to try to pretend the Bible doesn't say what it actually says.
It wasn't Titus, it was Philemon. And actually Paul never requested that Philemon release Onesimus from his slavery. Only that he accept him back as a fellow believer in Christ and not simply as a slave. This book does not at all say what your step-brother thinks it does.
There are many topics in the Bible that we humans will never understand. The people Were already enslaving people as property from the spoils of war. Did not God help Moses free the Israelites from the Egyptians who had taken the Israelites into slavery as a reward for a war victory? So slavery was already humanly being implemented as proceeds from war victories. God didn't seem like he was agreeing with slavery when He freed the Israelites from the Egyptians and the Bablyonians slavery. God was instructing His people how to treat slaves. You seem to think that slavery was cruel. What about cutting off a thieves hand for stealing or the eye for an eye punishment in the old testament? There are plenty of actions in the Bible that seem to be cruel and unjust punishments. Not just slavery. But it all was God's plan to establish His Kingdom with His people as he saw fit. Not how we see it. You are listening to a young lady that like most young people today seem to be putting their touchy feelings to interpret the Bible. I would bet that this young lady would be against spanking ones children because it says in the Bible spare not the rod. She wants a world where there is no punishment for wrong doing and just look at what our world has come to!!!
Pureheathern1720, *America is full of servants/slaves: People who are forced to work because they are not financially independent.* That's most of us. Some people have kind bosses/masters, and some have those who abuse and oppress them. *"Do not mistreat or oppress a foreigner; remember that you were foreigners in Egypt. Do not mistreat any widow or orphan. If you do, I, the Lord, will answer them when they cry out to me for help, and I will become angry and kill you in war.* Your wives will become widows, and your children will be fatherless." --Exodus 22:21-24 *"Do not mistreat a foreigner; you know how it feels to be a foreigner, because you were foreigners in Egypt."* --Exodus 23:9 ------------------------------------ *God is not against foreigners working for others. But He is against foreign workers/slaves/servants being mistreated.*
Which Jesus? We haven't seen the executed dude for 2023 years. Why is homie in hiding? Tell him he's protected by the "double jeopardy clause" and won't be prosecuted or executed again. We the members of this channel ain't Christians. İt was the Christians who burned enslaved Africans at the stake.
That Claimed Moral god never once says "Thou shalt NOT own another Human as a Slave!", but it does command us to "not wear clothes woven of two different types of fabric".... to him, that is a NO NO, but owning other Human Beings, that is perfectly fine to him...
In the 2nd set of Commandments that was saved for Israelite posterity in the Ark of the Covenant the biblical god wrote this Tenth Commandment: do not stew a young goat in goat milk. For Yahweh, forbidding a recipe was a higher moral priority than forbidding or even criticizing slavery.
@@broddr -- Oh yes, that claimed "All Loving" god goes out of his way to make alot of Stupid commandments. A couple more that I remember: 1. Leviticus 19:9 -- "When you reap the harvest of your land, do not reap to the very edges of your field or gather the gleanings of your harvest." 2. Leviticus 19:27 -- " Do not cut the hair at the sides of your head or clip off the edges of your beard." 3. Leviticus 19:28 -- "Do not cut your bodies for the dead or put tattoo marks on yourselves. I am the Lord." so cutting hair and tattoo marks are VERY important to him... and those are all from Leviticus 19, in there he makes ALOT of Stupid commandments that are Obviously more important to him than ending Slavery. Those are just a couple of the non-lethal ones, that's not even including all the EVIL ones where he Commands ALOT of Killings, including killing BABIES!! Even so, god believers want us to base our "morality" from that god and those books... if only they would actually READ them. But... most don't. Instead, they go to their place of worship and have the nice Handpicked verses read TO them. For you god believers reading this = Why does your god care more about how we cut our Hair and Fashion than ending SLAVERY!!!??
As a teenager, this was another aspect of Christianity I objected to during Bible studies, that was glossed over. Realizing I was more moral than God, on several matters, turned me off.
Kristi failed and didn't read enough. Anti-slavery verses: (Exodus 21: 16 ,Deuteronomy 24: 7, Exodus 21: 26-27, Deuteronomy 23: 15) and (Psalm 118: 8-9, Psalms 146: 3, Revelation 22:9) all say that worship is to God only, not humans or even angels and Galatians 3: 28 says all are equal.
@@Xinime none of the verses you listed oppose slavery. Kidnapping is completely different from buying a slave as per God's instructions. In none of the verses did God, or Christ say "Thou shall not own another human being as property!". You are a pathetic apologist who, as Matt Dillahunty would say, have sacrificed your morals and your humanity on the altar of your religion. Also, I don't think Kristi said anything about worshiping humans. If you care to look at 6:12 she is quoting Ephesians 6 " Bondservants, obey your earthly masters with fear and trembling, with a sincere heart, as you would Christ.", which is literally ordering the slaves to "treat your master as you would Christ". Now when it comes to Galatians 3: 28, are you really so thick (no offense) that you believe slave could beat master as long as he did not die within 2 days, just because they were all equal, REALLY?! I think you are the one who needs to do some reading, not Kristi...
I just saw that one old street preacher be asked by George Jenko about slavery in the bible and his reply was hilarious, he jumped around the question talking about a bible verse that says do not kidnap people lol
Went to a fundamentalist Christian school for over a decade. They pointed out a verse in Exodus that forbids a man from stealing another man, and said that that rule meant the bible didn't endorse slavery. Apparently they failed to realize that pretty much every slave endorsing society had certain rules about not allowing citizens to kidnap other citizens. The simple mindedness and willing blindess of these people never fail to befuddle and anger me.
I remember that verse. It’s against “kidnapping”, not owning. Then elsewhere it tells you where and how acquire slaves. It makes as much sense as pointing to the commandment against stealing and arguing that the Bible doesn’t endorse private property.
@@pansepot1490 There is a difference between Israelites and Gentiles(everyone who isn't an Israelite such as: nations, foreigners, strangers, heathens, and so on). The OT literally promised the Israelites to destroy or enslave all nations. Here are some quotes which indicate that. Isaiah 60:16 "You will also suck the milk of nations And suck the breast of kings; Then you will know that I, Yahweh, am your Savior And your Redeemer, the Mighty One of Jacob." Deuteronomy 11:23-25 "23then Yahweh will dispossess all these nations from before you, and you will dispossess nations greater and mightier than you. 24Every place on which the sole of your foot treads shall be yours; your border will be from the wilderness to Lebanon, and from the river, the river Euphrates, as far as the western sea. 25No man will be able to stand before you; Yahweh your God will put the dread of you and the fear of you on all the land on which you set foot, as He has spoken to you." Here it is stated that all the nations from Gentiles will become the property of the Israelites. Psalms 47:3 "3He subdues peoples under us And nations under our feet." Again the people from the nations also known as Gentiles will be subdued. Deuteronomy 14:21 "21“You shall not eat anything which dies of itself. You may give it to the sojourner who is within your gates, so that he may eat it, or you may sell it to a foreigner, for you are a holy people to Yahweh your God. You shall not boil a young goat in its mother’s milk." In short if you find a road kill you can sell that to Gentiles. Deuteronomy 23:20 "20You may charge interest to a foreigner, but to your brother you shall not charge interest, so that Yahweh your God may bless you in all that you send forth your hand to do in the land which you are about to enter to possess." In short you can trick Gentiles with high interest rates and suck them dry. Deuteronomy 7:22-24 "22And Yahweh your God will clear away these nations before you little by little; you will not be able to put an end to them quickly, lest the wild beasts become too numerous for you. 23But Yahweh your God will give them over before you and will throw them into great confusion until they are destroyed. 24And He will give their kings into your hand so that you will make their name perish from under heaven; no man will be able to stand before you until you have destroyed them." Here the nations will be slowly destroyed little by little and take note we are even called wild beasts here. And how is he going to destroy us? Through confusion. How do you confuse? Through deception. Deuteronomy 2:25 "25This day I will begin to put the dread and fear of you upon the peoples everywhere under the heavens, who, when they hear the report of you, will tremble and be in anguish because of you.’" In context this was after some slaughters in which he gave the Amorites into their hands. But recognize that he speaking here about everywhere under the heavens. So all on earth. He is stating here that he will make all people fear the Israelites. That they are in anguish because of them. Leviticus 25:44-46 "44As for your male and female slaves whom you may have-you may acquire male and female slaves from the nations that are around you. 45And also you may acquire from the sons of the foreign residents who sojourn among you, from them and their families who are with you; as for those whom they have begotten in your land, they also may become your possession. 46You may even give them as an inheritance to your sons after you, to receive as a possession; you can use them as permanent slaves. But in respect to your brothers, the sons of Israel, you shall not have dominion over one another with brutality." Take a look at how Gentiles become permanent slaves who can even be inherited. You can even be brutal to them as long as they are not Israelites. How brutal can you be? Let's check this out: Exodus 21:20-21 "20“And if a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod and he dies at his hand, he shall surely be punished. 21But if for a day or two he is able to stand, no punishment shall be taken; for he is his property." Isaiah 61:5-6 "5Strangers will stand and pasture your flocks, And foreigners will be your farmers and your vinedressers. 6But you will be called the priests of Yahweh; You will be spoken of as ministers of our God. You will eat the wealth of nations, And in their glories you will boast." In short Gentiles become your labor force and you will suck their wealth away from them. And you can even boast about robbing others of their labor. Isaiah 45:14 "14Thus says Yahweh, “The fruit of the labor of Egypt and the profit of Ethiopia And the Sabeans, men of stature, Will come over to you and will be yours; They will walk behind you; they will come over in chains And will bow down to you; They will make supplication to you: ‘Surely, God is with you, and there is none else, No other God.’ ”" Another one which promises enslavement of Gentiles. In this regards it mentioned some specific nations though. Isaiah 60:10-12 "10“Foreigners will build up your walls, And their kings will minister to you; For in My wrath I struck you, And in My favor I have had compassion on you. 11“Your gates will be open continually; They will not be closed day or night, So that men may bring to you the wealth of the nations, With their kings led in procession. 12“For the nation and the kingdom which will not serve you will perish, And the nations will surely be laid waste." Here we go again: Suck the nations of their wealth and the ones who don't want to will be destroyed. In short become their labor slave or die. Isaiah 49:23 "23“Kings will be your guardians, And their princesses your nurses. They will bow down to you with their faces to the earth And lick the dust of your feet; And you will know that I am Yahweh; Those who hope in Me will not be put to shame." Here the Kings of the Gentiles will become guardians and nurses and kneel in front of them and get humiliated. Jeremiah 1:10 "10“See, I have appointed you this day over the nations and over the kingdoms, To uproot and to tear down, To cause to perish and to pull down, To build and to plant.”" Here they have the "divine" right to uproot and tear down the nations without their consent of course. Jeremiah 46:28 "28“O Jacob My servant, do not fear,” declares Yahweh, “For I am with you. For I will make a complete destruction of all the nations Where I have banished you, Yet I will not make a complete destruction of you; But I will discipline you with justice And by no means leave you unpunished.”" Read this. He will make a COMPLETE destruction of ALL the nations where he has the "Chosens" banished to. So if a Chosenite is in your country then according to this, your country will be completely destroyed. You find more or less the same quotes in Jeremiah 30:10-11. Jeremiah 51:20-23 "20 He says, “You are My instrument of shattering, My weapon of war; And with you I shatter nations, And with you I destroy kingdoms. 21“With you I shatter the horse and his rider, And with you I shatter the chariot and its rider, 22And with you I shatter man and woman, And with you I shatter old man and youth, And with you I shatter choice man and virgin, 23And with you I shatter the shepherd and his flock, And with you I shatter the farmer and his pair of oxen, And with you I shatter governors and prefects." Before I start, these quotes are in context with the calamity against Babylon. But since he is speaking generally in these quotes I added them. Look what he is saying. The Israelites are his weapon of war which brings destruction to Gentiles. And of course he has to go into details like shattering man, woman, old man and young and so on. Please now, just imagine there are some Israelites/Jews who take that book seriously with quotes like this. Don't you think they would be a danger to all other people on this planet? Daniel 2:44 "44And in the days of those kings the God of heaven will cause a kingdom to rise up which will never be destroyed, and that kingdom will not be left for another people; it will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, but it will itself stand forever." The context here is the dream which Daniel interpreted. Well that's something all the abrahamic faith believers want because they think that it's the rule of their savior. But at the end of the day this is one world government. A system once it is corrupt will bring a nightmare to all the common people on this planet. Everyone supporting one world government is in my opinion an enemy "a Satan" to all the commoners. Psalms 2:8-9 "8Ask of Me, and I will surely give the nations as Your inheritance, And the ends of the earth as Your possession. 9You shall break them with a rod of iron, You shall shatter them like a potter’s vessel.”" Here you can get Gentiles as possession by demand and are allowed to crush them.
@@nezz0rTH-cam is not the place for copy-pasting long essays. Nobody's going to read it. If you want to make a point, make it with one or two examples and ditch the rest.
@@pansepot1490 It's concerned about "ethically-sourced slavery", yep. Like, okay, so the bible DID improve its chattel slavery (Romans treated slaves like pets and continuously complained about freeman ex-slaves demanding rights and stuff and called THEM "slaves" anyway; meanwhile the Greeks called their slaves "body", "child", "human-footed [animal]", and would dress them up in animal skins in Sparta)... It improved it from "they're cattle" to "they're pets, and you shouldn't permanently maim or kill a pet". And we're really supposed to praise that? like, any farmer with a hint of sense even back then would ALREADY be doing that for their working animals, because those are expensive and it takes time to train one, so extending it to slaves shouldn't have been so revolutionary if humans weren't such sadists when they get enough power/resources that they can afford slaves.
Yet this is straight from the Hebrew Scriptures (and, being honest, every other "Scriptural Tradition" from Every Other Religious Tradition - and all of them owned Slaves!)....
@@blowfly5936 I have no interest to argue with you or anyone else. But i gladly discuss about the Bible. Even about slavery or any other subject, this channel's owner says no christians want to discuss, but only if "opponent" is discussing with manners 😉
Believe with all of your heart the gospel, and you will be saved and set free. The real power is in the gospel according to God it only has the power to set a person free from the bondage of sin and death. This is not just head knowledge and knowing this. This trust comes from your heart when you truly believe it. Rest and trust in the assurance that Jesus Christ gives us the gift of eternal life and a new glorified body at the rapture and new heavens and earth Please ask God to show you this truth Romans 1:16 “For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to everyone that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.” Testifying Both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, Repentance Toward God, and faith Toward our Lord Jesus Christ. acts 20:21). The Bad News The first mention of not inheriting the kingdom of God is found in Paul’s first letter to the church at Corinth. Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. Galatians 5:19-21 19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, 20 idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, 21 envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. THE GOOD NEWS We receive the holy spirit of Christ when we believe the gospel Ephesians 1:13-14 (ESV) 13 In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, 14 Who is the guarantee of our inheritance until we acquire possession of it, to the praise of his glory (1 Corinthians 15:(1-4). THE GOSPEL THAT SAVES, PAUL SPEAKING Moreover, brethren, I declared unto you the Gospel which I preached unto you, which also you have received, and wherein you stand, by which also you are saved if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless you have believed in vain. 4 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures, And that He was buried, and that He rose again the third day according to the scriptures: 5 And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve: 6 After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep. 7 After that, he was seen of James; then of all the apostles. 8 And last of all he was seen of me also, as of one born out of due time. 9 For I am the least of the apostles, that am not meet (suitable) to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God. Ephesians 2:8-9 For by grace, you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast. Revelation 1:5 And from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of kings on earth. To him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by his blood ROMANS 3 24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: 25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; Ephesians 1:7 In Him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our Sins, according to the riches of his grace. For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. A person must TRUST THE BLOOD of Jesus Christ, which He shed at the cross, as sufficient to SAVE his SOUL. God will not accept our works. He will only accept those who receive his gift of love by faith. God is the justifier; we cannot justify ourselves. We must come to God and trust him to be saved. Rom. 5:1 Therefore, being justified by FAITH, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ: John 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.” PLEASE UNDERSTAND THIS Rom. 5:9 Much more, then, being now justified by his BLOOD, we shall be SAVED from wrath through him. According to the Bible, salvation, or JUSTIFICATION, is by GRACE through FAITH in the BLOOD of Jesus Christ, like it says about in Romans 3:25! In other words, when your faith is solely in the Blood, you are SAVED! How about it? Won't you trust the blood of Jesus Christ today to save your soul from Eternity in the Lake of Fire? Philippians 2:6-11 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: 8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. 9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: 10That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; 11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. Jesus himself reminds us, “I tell you, do not be anxious about your life, what you will eat or what you will drink Look at the birds of the air: they neither sow nor reap nor gather into barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not of more value than they?” (Matthew 6:25-26). 1 Peter 1 Greeting 1 Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who are elect exiles of the Dispersion in Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia, 2 according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, in the sanctification of the Spirit, for obedience to Jesus Christ and for sprinkling with his blood: May grace and peace be multiplied to you. Born Again to a Living Hope 3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! According to his great mercy, he has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, 4 to an inheritance that is imperishable, undefiled, and unfading, kept in heaven for you, 5 who by God's power are being guarded through faith for salvation ready to be revealed in the last time. 6 In this you rejoice, though now for a little while, if necessary, you have been grieved by various trials, 7 so that the tested genuineness of your faith-more precious than gold that perishes though it is tested by fire-may be found to result in praise and glory and honor at the revelation of Jesus Christ. 8 Though you have not seen him, you love him. Though you do not now see him, you believe in him and rejoice with joy that is inexpressible and filled with glory, 9 obtaining the outcome of your faith, the salvation of your souls.
@@Jak-5 What utter nonsense all of those things are unproven NDEs are useless near death is not death, no one comes back from that, and the witnesses you are talking.about, names and adresses, vague prophecies that can be interpreted to mean anything none are specific, you really are deep in the rabbit hole of magical thinking without any evidence, no, "NO" supernatural claims have ever been proven.
These evil Christian slave owners actually published a fake Slave Bible (1807) to validate and preserve the system of slavery. Christianity indeed is a vampiric monster.
@@Jak-5i see near death experiences the same as people on acid trips. When youre hallucinating on acid, youre only seeing things because your brain is ON DRUGS and MALFUNCTIONING. causing you to see things that arent actually there. Therefore things seen on acid are not reliable. In a NDE, let's say a car crash. Theres blood loss, theres concussions, theres spinal things, all of which can starve your brain of blood, damage your brain itself, or cause other havoc in the body. Causing hallucinations. Therefore, im less likely to believe a NDE than testimony from a sober healthy person. Your brain is MALFUNCTIONING. Therefore not reliable. Not to mention, people from different religions see DIFFERENT gods during NDE's. Theres 4000 different religions. And COUNTLESS different branches of each religion. They ALL claim to be the 'one true religion ' 😂 the odds are against you bro. They cant all be right. At most only ONE can be right. And since they ALL rely on FAITH, which is defined as "belief without evidence " id rather just avoid it all. Not to mention the HORRORS of various holy texts, especially the bible, and the HISTORY of religion itself. I dont care if god is real or not. I find him far too immoral to worship regardless 😂 And i dont know what happens when i die. And you know what, thats okay. That just means i have to cherish this lifetime. I dont believe life has an objective meaning. But that just means im free to choose myown meaning. And id rather admit i dont know something than latch onto a faith based philosophy that i cannot prove. Spoken as a 20 year catholic, now turned atheist. Best wishes friend. I hope you have a fantastic day
Fantastic summary Kristi! Your video gave me an idea - we should make a new "translation" of the Bible that corrects all the immoral and pointless commands of the Bible into moral and sensible commands. The preface of this Bible would say that all the other translations are corrupted by the devil, and that this one restores the true intent of a loving, moral God. Can you imagine the uproar and debate this could stoke?
The BIBLE is not a book about Atheism, Agnosticism, Christianity, Buddhism, Hinduism, Islam, and Religions The BIBLE is not about slavery and sins. The BIBLE REVEALS the CREATOR'S FAVOR and REWARD for LOVING, KIND, and RESPECTFUL PERSONS on EARTH Imperfect, suffering, and dying human beings who - 1. love, honor, and obey the Creator as their loving, kind, and merciful God and Heavenly Father in obedience to what were written in Mark 12: 29, 30 and John 17: 3 2. submit to the authority of Jesus Christ and believe his teachings about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" in obedience to what were written in Matthew 28: 18, Luke 4: 43, and John 11: 25, 26 are the loving, kind, and respectful persons on earth who can be trusted with anything and are worthy and deserving of the Creator's favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death on a safe, secure, and peaceful earth without liars, traitors, immoral, perverts, and murderers as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4 and 21: 8 The BIBLE REVEALS the ROLE of JESUS CHRIST as the RIGHTFUL HEAVENLY MASTER and KING - All human beings have no immortal souls and will just become worthless and useless dusts on earth after their deaths just like the animals as written in Ecclesiastes 3: 19, 20 and 9: 5, 6 but all loving, kind, and respectful worshippers of the Creator and followers of his Christ who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Mary, Martha, Lazarus, and many others will not remain as worthless dusts forever, instead, in the right and proper time, Jesus Christ, as a loving, kind, and merciful Heavenly Master and King, will resurrect them back to life so they can all happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" and fully enjoy his and the Creator's eternal love, kindness, goodness, compassions, generosities, favors, and blessings for eternity under his loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection as the Creator's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
@@jaflenbond7854 the bible is written by people, and is nothing more than their beliefs, viewpoints, and opinions. It was not written by god, and any claim for divine inspiration is just that - a claim.
@@bulakhv No one is forcing you to respect the Bible as the Word of God and source of Truths. No one is forcing you to submit to the authority of Jesus Christ and believe his teachings about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" You are free to submit to the authority, power, and control of Satan the Devil and believe the Unbiblical teachings of his anti-Christs about "Armageddon", "Trinity", "heaven and hellfire", "rapture", and "reincarnation". Nothing has changed, just the same, ETERNAL LIFE and existence without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death on a safe, secure, and peaceful earth without liars, traitors, immoral, perverts, and murderers is still the Creator's favor and reward for his worshippers and followers of his Christ. Nothing has changed, just the same, Jesus Christ, as a loving, kind, and merciful Heavenly Master and King, in the right and proper time, will still resurrect back to life all his loving, kind, and respectful followers and worshippers of the Creator who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Mary, Martha, Lazarus, and many others so they can all happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" and fully enjoy his and the Creator's eternal love, kindness, goodness, compassions, generosities, favors, and blessings for eternity under his loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection as the Creator's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth.
Know how ridiculous you shameless Christians look, telling same lies for 2023 years and fighting brutal wars in the name of Jesus, yet nothing has changed?
@@jaflenbond7854 And yet, here you are saying "It's your choice, but if you don't choose my point of view, you're going to hell". You are a manipulator and I think that's disgusting.
I recently begun my deconstruction journey, and Kristi,... your knowledge of the holy book, and how you present these facts from this other side has really been helpful. I camp at your tiktok and YT, and I must say, you get better and better each day. Keep up the good work. I love that your knowledge of that holy book as a christian before is mighty handy from this other side. Soar higher girl.
.....but a little knowledge can be a dangerous thing! And in the case of Kristi, this is sadly the case! She is someone who has enough knowledge to dissuade some people from Christianity (clearly her aim), but insufficient knowledge to present a convincing academic argument that doesn't fall apart under scrutiny! There are a lot of people like this on the internet and You Tube is literally full of them! Tragically this is a misuse of the internet, where people who are often gullible, lacking any depth of knowledge on virtually any subject, are being seriously misled by people who think they are knowledgeable and can inform everyone, but aren't in fact correctly representing the facts or truth. In Kirsti's case, she puts her arguments in such a way as to attract people that are satisfied with shallow reasoning and the lazy. Sadly the internet is very much a place where the lazy who would not do any serious book study, find their 'information' and any person with any grievance of any kind, will be found on the internet, trying to persuade others to their position and beliefs! Thus such people are easily taken in and 'de-converted' from whatever beliefs or ideas they previously had about anything! When it comes to the Bible, it is such a immense and quite difficult book to grasp and understand, that without years of study of it, you are unlikely to know very much about it! This means that when you try and make the shortcut to understanding the Bible and you choose someone on You Tube that appeals to you, you VERY likely to be being completely misled by them!!!
@@Thumbelina298 of course. You don't want any help, because you have chosen to listen to someone that appeals to your own desires! I understand. But I thought it was important to be kind enough to you, to point this out to you, that you are very likely being deceived by Kirsti and her arguments, especially when you examine her arguments at depth, you find that they don't in fact hold true - they are not realistic. So by all means, 'believe' in Kirsti and her arguments, that is your own choice, but just know that behind her arguments, there is no depth and they are completely misleading people! You are following your own desires and I understand this and when someone chooses something they desire, there is no one that can persuade them otherwise! Parents see this with their children all the time, when children reject their parent's advice and end up making serious mistakes in life! They were following what they thought was right....but in fact what they were following was very unwise and the result was the mess they made for their own life. Take care!
I was literally just about to look for chapters that talk about slavery after learning that the Bible condones it Really convenient timing for you to upload this video, your videos help me so much. Thanks Kristi!
Kristi helped no one and nothing. Anti-slavery verses: (Exodus 21: 16 ,Deuteronomy 24: 7, Exodus 21: 26-27, Deuteronomy 23: 15) and (Psalm 118: 8-9, Psalms 146: 3, Revelation 22:9) all say that worship is to God only, not humans or even angels and Galatians 3: 28 says all are equal. She said there were no verses like these 🤣
@@Xinime Yeah... you might want to reread Exodus 21: 26-27 if you really want to consider those as "anti-slavery" Exodus 21: 16 isn't necessarily saying anything wrong about owning slaves, so not really an anti-slavery verse You could make a point for Deuteronomy 24: 7 though... if you ignore Leviticus 25: 42-46. So you might want to take a look at those verses Deuteronomy 23: 15 could work as an anti-slavery verse... but only if you ignore verses like (again) Leviticus 25: 42-46, 1 Peter 2: 18-20, and a couple of other verses For Psalms 118: 8-9, Psalms 146: 3, and Revelation 22: 9... worshipping God has nothing to do with condemning slavery, so you're not really making a point And as for Galatians 3: 28... wow... you have to take out major context in that verse to make it seem like it condemns slavery If you're going to say that the Bible is against slavery, then at least be truthful about the verses you use as evidence. So far, you just proved Kristi right (in more ways than one)
@@Xinime I can tell you didn't watch the video or actually read your Bible... because many of the verses she shows in this video prove that the Bible isn't against slavery unless you *really* cherry-pick verses, which you just did with me
@@FighterOfWrongs "You just proved Kristi right" what a hilarious cope and all those other verses were in response to her other claims outside of the slavery period where she said you should be compliant to certain people as you would to God but those last verses prove her wrong and the verses I labeled "anti slavery" were to invalidate her claim of there being nothing against slavery in the Bible so yeah, Kristi is still wrong. 😆
Interesting to me how fundamentalists explain away teachings on slavery, but won’t do the same with teachings on women being submissive. They need someone to keep under their control.
And they ignore Jesus’s 2nd Commandment, “love thy neighbor as thyself” and use the Old Testament to abuse the LGBTQ community and treat them as scapegoats.
You have a fair point there but there’s other verses that critique the rich and powerful that got left in. So you could argue both ways tbh. All this under the Caveat that this is supposed to be the unalterable word of god
i want you to know how much i appreciate and enjoy your videos. you've helped me a lot. i'm glad someone is out there who feels the same about these things as me-- it is a controversial topic in real life and you give me hope
Being raised a biblical fundamentalist and happening to join a pacifist sect/cult (the Amish) I was astounded and angry when speaking to one of the local Amish here, and the subject of biblical slavery was broached. The man, in response to my pointing out Leviticus 25:44-46 commented that as long as the master was kind to his slave, it was okay (meaning blessed of God). So I decided to up the ante and see what he thought of slavery in our time, or in “The New Covenant” under Christ. His response? The same. If a master is kind to his slave, it is okay. Now not all Amish would be so blunt and would hem and haw around the subject, but not this guy. Being a former devout Amish Christian myself, I would have never dreamed of supporting slavery so blatantly. I was seething with “righteous indignation” and cursed him to his face. My 3 times great grandfather owned around 5-6 slaves in Virginia in his time. It is a dark mark on my family heritage and I loathe to think of it. And here this Amish man, who is supposed to be representing the good news of salvation in Christ has the insanity to take such an abominable position. WTF?! Thank you Kristi for your clear presentation here. It lays the ax to the root of this evil.
Haha, it's obvious you never borned in your heart. Anger like this is like looking in rear-view mirror where everything gets bigger! You become angry for nothing about this. Amish themselves never used slavery and your ancient family has nothing to do with yourself. Whatever the bible says is just a guide for the times, it's not unique if you study other cultures. (and read how the Amish indentured themselves with works for freedom)
@@jasfan8247 I’m not sure if you’re being facetious or what, and your grammar is so poor as to question your intelligence, however, this principle must be upheld, that owning other people as property always has and always will be a crime against humanity. Therefore it doesn’t matter if a pacifistic sect/cult like the Amish never owned slaves. Because they uphold a religious bool as sacred that endorses slavery. Righteous indignation towards evils such as this is fully justified, and it is why the civil war was fought. You, sir, if meaning what I think you mean, to excuse slavery as culture are as guilty as all who condone and stand by as inhumane practices are allowed. May you soon come to your senses soon for the good of humanity!
@@evevangelist5910 Haha! Dumb ,dumber....etc. Farrelly Bros. Great movies. Don't shoot the messenger. Haven't you committed the biggest sin with your "so-called" righteous anger bla-bla....."humanity" is safe in your hands. Keep on seeking....
@@broddr Well, people have done that to keep their kids from starving and other reasons, also for career possibilities. You might do some research about the circumstances in Roman/Greek days.
What a breath of fresh air. All your posts on TH-cam are the best I have seen, and I hope the messages that you promote are spread throughout the world. Keep it up.
Yes, slavery is endorsed throughout the old and new testaments. Here are a couple other spots in the new testament. Colossians 3:22 Slaves, obey your earthly masters in everything; and do it, not only when their eye is on you and to curry their favor, but with sincerity of heart and reverence for the Lord. Luke 12:47 The servant who knows the master’s will and does not get ready or does not do what the master wants will be beaten with many blows. Thank you for your work, Kristi. It's important that this information is shared.
ATHEISTS VS. GOD'S SOVEREIGNTY After studying the BIBLE, Atheists rejected God's Sovereignty, will, and commandments as worthless and useless and fill the world instead with their claims that God doesn't exist and the Bible is just a worthless and useless book of lies, myths, fictions, fantasies, and fairy tales. CHRISTIANS and ALL RELIGIONS VS. JESUS CHRIST'S AUTHORITY and TEACHINGS After studying the BIBLE, Christians and all kinds of Religions rejected the authority and teachings of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" as worthless and useless and fill the world instead with their Unbiblical teachings about "Armageddon", "heaven and hellfire", "Trinity", "rapture", and "reincarnation". GOD'S FAVOR and REWARD of ETERNAL LIFE and EXISTENCE on EARTH Jesus Christ KNOWS that the loving, kind, and merciful God's favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death on a safe, secure, and peaceful earth without liars, immoral, traitors, perverts, and murderers as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4 and 21: 8 is definitely NOT for Atheists, Agnostics, Christians, and all Religions who are filling the world with their - 1. claims that God doesn't exist and the Bible is just a worthless book of lies, myths, fictions, fantasies, and fairy tales 2. Unbiblical teachings and doctrines about "Armageddon", "heaven and hellfire", "Trinity", "rapture", and "reincarnation" but ONLY for all lowly, ordinary, kind, and submissive persons on earth who submit to his authority and believe his teachings about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" as written in Matthew 28: 18, Luke 4: 43, and John 11: 25, 26. God KNOWS that all Atheists, Agnostics, Christians and all Religions in the world who rejected his Sovereignty and his Christ's authority and teachings as worthless and useless will just become worthless and useless dusts on earth forever after their natural deaths but all his loving, kind, and respectful worshippers and followers of his Christ who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Mary, Martha, Lazarus, and many others will not remain as worthless dusts forever, instead, in the right and proper time, he will let Jesus Christ, as a loving, kind, and merciful Heavenly Master and King, resurrect them back to life so they can all happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" or His Kingdom and fully enjoy his and his Christ's eternal love, kindness, goodness, compassions, generosities, favors, and blessings for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
@@jaflenbond7854 quite a rant. Unfortunately, no evidence to support any of it at all. Happily, your little sadistic fantasies will never come true. 2000+ years of miserable failure.
This is how you know people aren't reading the book. They know the same few repeated verses they've heard since they were two. There's some wicked stuff in that book 💯
you reached over 33k people in just 1 hour! you are shining bright. keep it up. Ken Copeland and the other mega preachers would be jealous of you. You are reaching as many as they are
_Atheism is simply a never ending campaign to proselytize as many humans as possible into becoming slaves in service of the Great Nothingness that's our there_ ! 'Kristi', from Latin, means "follower of Christ" The irony... seriously 😂😂
Well Atheists have right to “proselytize” as religious folks. Thanks to advancement of Science, future looks in our direction not yours. 34% of Americans and half of millennials and Gen-Z have no religion
“It’s the way it was back then!” Yeah… and people ate pork and shellfish, and rabbits… but there’s laws against that. It’s easier to say “don’t own people,” than it is to say “here’s who you can own, and how you should treat them.”
Ive discussed this with my girlfriend before. It got heated. She always pulls the whole, “you have no objective reasoning to say its bad” “what can you say about god when you’re just a finite being” it gets a little frustrating to say the least.
@@gowdsake7103 shes still the best thing thats ever happened to me. Ive welcomed and encouraged the debates, so I bring it on myself. Its expected. I still like hearing her views on the subject.
Funny how god specifically states that homosexuality is a sin and should be punishable by death and yet he permits the owning of other human beings as property.
In the second set of the Ten Commandments, the ones preserved in the Ark of the Covenant, god used the 10th Commandment to forbid the moral outrage of a particular recipe: you can’t cook a young goat in goat milk. But somehow forbidding or even criticizing slavery never got on his to-do list. 🤔
@@bosniacura There is no context in witch slavery is o.k the Bible goes into detail explaining the difference between indentured servitude and slavery and is fine with both, it even tells you how you can trick your indentured servants into becoming your property forever, so no i will never put my trust in the Lord even if he is proved to be real, read Exodus 21 and Leviticus 25.
Will, you please go, and read 2 Samuel 24:1, or something? I don't care if He didn't 'tell' David, to sin. 'Inciting' him is more, than close, enough. Also, go un-schism yourselves! And explain Revelations 13:8, better, too. And for a New Covenant, it took, centuries, to even, directly address, slavery, in a definitive way. And the whole bureaucracy, involved. Also, schism, after schism - plus, war, after war. Not all of them, solely feudal, also. And 1 Corinthians 2:14, plus Romans 8:30, says nothing about, being 'one', either.@@bosniacura
In a matter of time, I'll confess to my christian family that I became an atheist. There will be a lot of mixed reactions, but I don’t care, I want to heal from my deconversion
Good luck! And take care. One hears very unpleasant stories about how people are treated after coming out. I hope you have things thought through: in case of doubt, waiting a little more won’t hurt. There’s resources on the internet and TH-cam on how to come out as atheist to family and friends. Listening to people who have already made that experience can be useful. Again, all the best, 👍
@@pansepot1490Thanks, as a matter of fact, I saw content from other Atheists such as Genetically Modified Skeptic, Darkmatter2525, Belief it or Not and Prophet of Zod.
@@thedude0000No, whatever Verse you pick from the new testament,will take you right back to the old testament.The word of the LORD. Is written precept upon precept,line upon line and line upon line. You cannot interpret the new testament without the old.
@@jianth First, you need to prove the bible is the "word of the lord". As of now, it just appears to be a series of books written by men in ancient times.
@@thedude0000 what will be a evident enough proof for you to believe that God exist? Because I've listened to atheist like Richard Dawkins and he just doesn't wanna believe that God exist. He said in his own words that even if Jesus came back from the cloud, he would call it a stunt. So,if you're an atheist like him, it is hard to prove to them because they Just don't wanna believe in God
@@jianth _what will be a evident enough proof for you to believe that God exist?_ 1) if a god existed, he would know what evidence would convince me. 2) The bible is littered with NUMEROUS examples of god directly interacting with humans and making his existence known. Why are you bringing up Richard Dawkins? It's a non-sequitur on this topic.
Being forced to work for someone else is necessary in this world because we are not all financially independent. Being "forced" to work for someone else to make a living is to be a "slave". Most people are grateful to work for someone (have a job) though, aren't they? BUT they do not want to be mistreated. God is against that also. God is not against foreigners working for others. But He is against foreign workers/slaves/servants being mistreated: *"Do not mistreat or oppress a foreigner; remember that you were foreigners in Egypt. Do not mistreat any widow or orphan. If you do, I, the Lord, will answer them when they cry out to me for help, and I will become angry and kill you in war.* Your wives will become widows, and your children will be fatherless." --Exodus 22:21-24 *"Do not mistreat a foreigner; you know how it feels to be a foreigner, because you were foreigners in Egypt."* --Exodus 23:9 Has ANY slanderer of God ever told the whole truth about the matter, or do they continue to mislead?
@@knowledgeispower2787there's being forced to work and then there's being forced to be someone else's chattel, which the bible endorses. And then it does go on to encourage mistreatment, you could beat your ""employee"" as long as it didn't kill them within a certain amount of time
@@knowledgeispower2787 "Being forced to work for someone else is necessary in this world because we are not all financially independent. Being "forced" to work for someone else to make a living is to be a "slave"." Nope, not even close. Your definitions are off. You construe "being forced to work" as being something needed to survive in society. Yet no one is "forced" to work for any particular place if they don't want to work there. What keeps them in jobs they are unhappy with is the circumstances and many who can quit do quit. There are no laws that will force them to work even if they are not happy with working in such a place, and they won't be hunted down and forcefully returned to their "owners" the way slaves are if they do quit. heck, the laws explicitly forbit such a thing. So yeah, modern day working circumstances? Not slavery, not even close. Just because you wish you could live without working doesn't mean that because you can't and have to work despite being unwilling means you are a slave, it simply means you're a snowflake who is salty about not getting their way. "But He is against foreign workers/slaves/servants being mistreated:" Leviticus 25:44-46: "‘Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly." As for the treatment of slaves: "Exodus 20:21 "Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property." Exodus 20:26-27: "An owner who hits a male or female slave in the eye and destroys it must let the slave go free to compensate for the eye. And an owner who knocks out the tooth of a male or female slave must let the slave go free to compensate for the tooth."" "Has ANY slanderer of God ever told the whole truth about the matter, or do they continue to mislead?" Well the above "truth teller" for Go has certainly not told the truth about the whole matter regarding slavery. What does it say about you when you do exactly what you accuse others of doing in "slandering God"?
@@knowledgeispower2787 It also says you can beat your slave so long as they.don't die within 3 days and it says you can.own someone as your property and pass them on to your children, so i'm not sure why you are talking about.foreigners or are you trying to mislead.
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Thank you for that professional analysis of the way the Bible endorses slavery. The have quoted that same passages for years today the “faithful “ only to have the them spew multiple excuses and blame me for missinterpreting the passages.
The excuse I've heard about the new testament is that it wipes away the old testament, it's a new covenant with god, and Jesus covers it all so we don't have to adhere to all the rules of the old testament... but that implies that god changes. So is he the same yesterday, today, and forever? Did his standards change? Or is he the same wrathful, bloodthirsty master and we're just supposed to ignore it because Jesus?? No thank you.
At the start of this year I attended a church which had a bible study on one of the disciples letters (alas I cannot remember which one). The text to study had been edited so that the first verse, relating to slavery, was conveniently left out of verses to be discussed. The verses being studied just didn't make sense so imagine my surprise when I looked back and the context of the verses was slavery, slave owning and how Jesus life and resurrection didn't really affect this practise. This has led me to this and other youtube presentations; I would never have known about the "slave bible" and so much more in this space but for presentations such as yours and others. I am starting to really question the church, and their motives. I am not fully deconstructed as yet, but it is coming after some 60 years.
Krisy . You are the gift. Of a true God that loves all people of this world and maby other worlds. Keep up the good word . 👌. The true word. Of humanity. 😊
The obvious reason the Bible consistently endorses and never forbids slavery is that the relationship for God’s people is them as His slaves. All He really cares about is absolute obedience, convincing them they are worthless without His grace and punishing them severely whenever the fail to properly worship and serve. Of course most Christian either can’t see this or become happy to be slaves as their purpose in life here and eternally.
In my experience my parents always listen to the verses the pastur cherry picks from the Bible and puts a twisted positive spin on things like what God did to Job or they tell me things like "don't believe everything you hear on the internet ". I suppose the ancient world equivalent of that would be don't believe everything you hear in the Bible.
Although I came from a very devote Catholic upbringing, at some point I began to question the " Man was created in God's image" verse of the Bible. It occurred to me that this God of the Bible suffered from all of the "imperfections" of man. He was tribal, angry, jealous, and impulsive. At this point, I realized this God of the Bible was a "Creation of Man" in his own image rather than the reverse. Therefore, I no longer practice the Christian faith.
When Christians attempt to defend slavery in the Bible, I honestly stopped diving directly into verses. I ask them to look at the 1800 years of history around slavery & Christianity. Much harder for them to defend the actions of the church (both catholic & protestant) and the Christian leaders that operated the multitude of slave trades throughout that time period.
Did jesus tell me to do that?? Why do we have to justify for their cruelty. They're people like you who pretends to be a follower of Christ,to get what you want .
@@abbywolf9701 im sorry 😔 i didn't watch the video.i have a problem and I find it hard to listen to someone lying or saying something that's not true. If you read the Bible,the ancient isrealite were also slaves to the Egyptians, And there's two different types of system how people enslaved people from other nations. The word 'slavery' we used Today is much closer to the word 'captivity' used in the Bible. The slavery system according to the laws of Moses is more like a contract,where poor person works under rich master for certain years.
Min 1:20 The Southern Baptist Church exists today since 1845, based on the Apostle Paul's several endorsements of humans owning other humans, such as at Ephesians 6:5: " Slaves be obedient to your masters with all respect...." Paul also commanded the return of a runaway owned human named Onesimus, to his owner in the book of Philemon, and the Christian scholars and leaders used this to support the Fugitive Slave Law. Jesus himself accepted the practice of owned humans being, somehow, " WORTHY " of stripes [ of the whip ] at Luke 12:47-48 Neither Jesus nor Paul ever spoke against the Mosaic Law that allowed the purchase of other humans " from the nations around you.. ", as permanently inheritable property, at Leviticus 25-44-46. Most Christians don't even know about these scriptures.
Great video, Kristi! I hope you do a video on misogyny. That was one of biggest catalysts that broke my belief in God and started me on my deconstruction journey. When you realize the glaring fact that Eve was an afterthought after Adam's creation as opposed to being a part of the original plan and blamed the fall of man on her is like she was created to be the "reason" for the fall. Well... yeah. No more reason to believe.
Planning to order some shirts from your merch shop this week, Kristi, but I’ll add some thanks here for another great video. I just have to see what size and color our daughter wants of the “bigotry isn’t cute” t-shirts, as she’s Aro-Ace. I know she’ll love it.
Kristi - I have seen most of your TH-cam content and I think you are one of the most articulate “deconstructionist” content creators out there. You quite obviously research your topics in detail, and your history with Christianity gives you a good grounding in using the Bible to bolster your discussions. I’m sure you have a list of future episodes that you are researching, but I’d like to request that you add the Book of Job to your list. When I was first questioning my faith and my Christian upbringing as a child, the story of Job haunted me. One of my complaints about religion in general and Christianity in particular was how egregiously unfairly people were treated in order for God to make his points. Despite the kinda-sorta happy ending and the rather extreme lesson regarding having faith under any circumstances, I was haunted by the sheer unfairness and - let’s be honest - evil with which God treated Job. And the backstory seems to be that God did all of this simply because he was provoked by one of his own creations. Job was destroyed as the result of a wager, which says a lot about the emotional maturity of the Christian God. The story always made me think of God as petty and capricious, and of course serves - as do many Bible stories - as an effort to explain why bad things happen to good people. But God’s behavior in regards to Job is so appallingly bad, that even priests (I grew up Catholic) and ministers seem to prefer to sort of ignore the book. Anyway, if you’d consider it for an episode, I think it would make a good one. If you’ve already done a video on him, I apologize and I will look for it.
It occurred to me that 'Job' was God's personal story in which case the unfairness emanates directly from Satan and you should be more sympathetic to Almighty God !
@@nickg5010 Not so. I don’t know what you mean by “personal story,” but God essentially made a bet with the devil that Job would worship him even if he destroyed him. God was so insecure that he allowed a creature that he created and who he knew was evil to manipulate him. He allowed the horrible things done to Job, and kept upping the stakes apparently to keep playing one up with the devil. In the end, God proved a point to the devil, who probably left the conversation chuckling over the fact that he had put one over on God and managed to destroy a good man’s life all in a day’s work. God restored Job to prosperity, but of course didn’t replace the family that he allowed to be murdered. At the very least, God showed shocking indifference to the suffering of one of his people; at the worst, God allowed himself to be played and actively participated in the destruction of a good man. To pin this unfairness onto Satan is to ignore Satan’s creator’s role in this shameful farce.
What I mean by 'personal story' is that God is Job in the story and that some evil came upon Him and that Satan was already well established in the world. Job is believed to be the first Bible story written, so my theory is that God resolved to confront the Devil who was already being worshipped. This led to the Bible being written and the emergence of YHWH. It's my own pet theory. @@cedarwaxwing3509
@@Fourwindsofsuccess Well, OK, but when I asked that she explore the “Book” of Job, I was really referring to the story, which highlights the pettiness and cruelty of the Christian god. I wasn’t asking for a line-by-line dissection of the entire book. Reread my original post and I think you’ll understand what I was suggesting.
If I was all powerful, all knowing, perfectly moral and had all eternity to create humanity I would have done a better job and inspired a better book. Just saying 🙄
Isn't it amazing how people cherry pick what they like and don't like? They love the part about "man lying with man is an abomination." But the sections just above and below: No shellfish, no mixed fabrics, and no intercourse during menstration-- conveniently all those pesky verses are ignored. Using the bible as justification for American slavery is just as disgusting.
Most apologists focus on slavery in ancient Israel / Judah. Paul and Jesus lived during Roman slavery, and neither denounced it. Paul, in fact, says this: "Bond servants, obey in everything those who are your earthly masters, not by way of eye-service, as people-pleasers, but with sincerity of heart, fearing the Lord. Whatever you do, work heartily, as for the Lord and not for men, knowing that from the Lord you will receive the inheritance as your reward." After you read the following description of Roman slavery, re-read Paul's admonition above. “Being in a slave marriage did not protect a slave’s body from others. Slaves had no right to refuse their owners’ sexual advances. Seneca the Elder claimed that unchastity was a necessity for slaves (Controversies 4, preface 10), and Plutarch said that husbands honored their wives by using slaves for sex (Marriage Advice 16). Numerous stories, letters, and poetry from the Roman world indicate the expectation of the sexual availability of male and female slaves of all ages, both within private households and as public prostitutes, to their (male) owners.” - Ian Paul / Psephizo
Not accurate at all LOL just another failed attempt at slandering Christianity. Anti-slavery verses: (Exodus 21: 16 ,Deuteronomy 24: 7, Exodus 21: 26-27, Deuteronomy 23: 15) and (Psalm 118: 8-9, Psalms 146: 3, Revelation 22:9) all say that worship is to God only, not humans or even angels and Galatians 3: 28 says all are equal. She said there were no verses like these 🤣
@@Xinime Exodus 21: 16 is about kidnapping, not slavery. Deut 24:7 literally says: "If a slave has taken refuge with you, do not hand them over to their master." It calls for humane treatment of a fugitive slave, but doesn't really question the very institution of slavery. Deut 26-27 literally says: "An owner who hits a male or female slave in the eye and destroys it must let the slave go free to compensate for the eye." Again, it calls for justice for slaves, but slavery itself is not called into question. The Psalms and Revelation citations are completely irrelevant.
@@svarog63 The Pslams and Revelation citations are completely relevant because she has made other claims outside of slavery that the Bible tells you to be compliant towards people of higher power as if they were Jesus but those verses disprove that narrative.
@@svarog63 Ah, yes, the classical "contradiction" excuse since you don't want to look into context and cling to your flawed anti-Christian worldview and want to keep coping 😂
@@nosuchthing8 Assuming a humanistic perspective this might make sense. Imagine Jesus the man hoping to advance social justice and moral development but also enough of a realist to understand the limitation of his times and opting instead to plant seeds when direct action was impossible. An interesting thought experiment but still requires a lot of imagination. On the other hand, if Jesus understood his mission was to die young for the sins of humankind then confronting Roman slavery would have been no biggie.
Going to tell my Christian parents that I’m an agnostic atheist at 13 years old this week. Wish me luck I guess.
Very brave of you, even if they take it well I hope you're prepared for a lot of questioning. What's the main reason you're going to give to them for why you don't believe?
Be safe!
Ow shit, their going to send you to conversion camp where all the councelors touch the kids who go there.
Take a knife with you if you can, and dont drink or eat anything you dont see them consume yourself.
But maybe you shouldn’t?
I don’t want you to get disowned as some children have had that happened to them in the past by their religious parents.
Too soon. Wait till you are a bit older.
It's almost like the biblical authors wrote not as inspired by an all loving timeless and absolutely moral god, but simply according to their times and cultures. About slavery, women, children, everything.
🤔 almost. Almost.
Written like the quintessential, resentful Bible illiterate. Upon reading the Book for myself, i found it completely other than I expected.
Yep, they created a god after their own image.
And isn't that the point - Human Authors wrote these rules for themselves and their convenience and they and other humans declared these words to be "God's Law"...
And for literally thousands of years, other humans suffered because of those long dead Humans - and God said Nothing...
Almost like powerful men wrote it to enhance and maintain their own power, even.
My excuse was always that this slavery was actually indentured servitude, but the beating verse made me question that. My question is if you could command a people not to eat pork or shellfish, why couldn’t you command them not to own other human beings?
That perfectly summarizes the situation - You can't trim your beard or wear clothing made from two different fabrics, but you can OWN people...
have you considered who really owns you
@@michaelodonnell824 you can die from picking up sticks on Shabbat but you can OWN people. Like none of this makes sense!
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Mixed fabrics? Non-negotiable. Fashion crime punishable by death.
Owning a guy or a bunch of guys or, heck, a family or two? Well... Y'know, just, like, don't beat them too hard, m'kay?
My parents don't blink an eye at biblical slavery which teaches masters to beat disobedient slaves and killing a person with stones for picking up sticks on the wrong day of the week yet get so upset about a trans person being on Jeopardy. It's mind bending.
Mine are the same, unfortunately.
@@jezebelvibes Sorry to hear that. In the past when I have brought up troublesome verses I am told to stop saying lies from the devil. Its insane. Plus I have heard them joking at the idea of trans people getting hurt. I have told them they are in a cult but it makes little difference.
They won’t blink at the person picking up sticks on the sabbath, but they’ll have no problems working on sabbath. Interesting…
Numbers 5:11 to 31 explains a Biblically condoned abortion. This is what The LORD told Moses?
old people, 😆, like your parents often refer to the universal truth that there is a scientific reason for making the windshield bigger than the rearview mirror. because what you focus on, is what you become. if you're always looking in the rearview mirror, you're never going to have a hope in hell of a life worth living, if you give yourself over to rumination. that's the root of all mental illness. depression is living in regrets. anxiety is fear of the future, because you haven't reconciled your regrets. this "influencer" is not going to help 1 person. its the blind leading the blind. it's your choice. move forward ( not possible without forgiveness); or stay stuck, miserable, confused forever. it's your choice. welcome to life on life's terms. your welcome.
Slavery was a huge part of my deconstruction. When I realized I had a better moral standard than "God," I lost my biggest reason to believe in him.
We are in the great awakening 🌻 people are waking up from "the big lie"
Agree, it’s beyond words how ANY saying we know what LOVE is from this book but will not bother their ❤️ reading any ridiculous words and stories from this book God😅
Because morality must come from humanity and common sense not an ancient book written for the Bronze Age mentality.
God was a Nzi
A better moral standard than God? Or better moral standards than Jewish scribes who wrote words claiming to be God's word
Human kind has always had problems....
If you think you know the answer...and quit thinking...that is a problem too
Whenever anyone claims there is a supernatural being that provides humans with a moral standard, I remember that the Baptist, Presbyterian, and Methodist churches split over the issue of slavery. That’s why there are still _Southern_ Baptist and _Southern_ Methodist churches.
“I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do, because I notice it always coincides with their own desires.”
Susan B. Anthony
Heard somewhere there was a civil war too. The mad man said " every drop of blood drawn with the lash shall be paid by another drawn with the sword as was said three thousand years ago so still it must be said 'the judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether.'
Oh that's interesting the Baptists in my country didn't split in fact neither did the Methodists.( England )
And messianic Christian John Brown took up arms to end slavery because he thought the Bible said to do so. Who was correct?
Slavery is also enshrined the Ten Commandments: “You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, or his male slave, or his female slave, or his ox, or his donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor.” Even though some Bible versions use the more polite word "servant" even though slave is more accurate as they are listed with wives, oxen, and donkeys as things that "belong" to someone. Talking about how wives (and daughters) were owned by their husbands and fathers, thus making them slaves is a whole other topic. There are plenty of rules in the Bible about how to sell daughters, including accepting payment from a man who raped a daughter and having him marry her.
The fact is that these words are as authoritative in judaism today as in the old days. They do not admit it but they are. They try to cover it up by saying "those are deprecated instructions" from antiquity and beyond. To the tribe "god of israel is eternal" meaning those hints are forever relevant. Today it is slavery by usury. The god of israel instructs them to lend on interest to foreigners it even says 'ye shall exact it again" referring to compound interest which is a genocidal killer type of usury. At the same time he is prohibiting israelites to lend to one another on interest. The text says: "if you listen to my advice you will be blessed in every land you enter to possess it." Isnt that exactly what they have been doing everywhere until their bankers succeeded to build up the international usury system? Now they can settle back after the "6" days of work while the bankers hold the breasts of the earth in their hands controlling countries, continents and the entire earth. Now their calendar is at 5784. The six days are almost over and they need to implement yet another world war. The most distructive of all to gain superiority over all the nations before they enter the 7th millenea. I have been studying the secrets of judaism for sometime now. I know it sounds outlandish. This is what they are going to do because what you think are just prophecies in reality are the plans, the blueprint and the behavioural instructions in allegorical form. In the form of mythological stories. All instructions written there are authoritative today including taking slaves from other nations.
The Bible says that you pay a man 30 shekels of silver if you defile his daughter and ruin his chances of selling (whoops) 'receiving ' dowry for her
And the “honor the Sabbath” commandment orders that your male and female slaves (who are likely foreigners and worship a foreign god) must also honor the Hebrew Sabbath.
"Moses did that in recognition of your hard and evil hearts,"
Maybe if the people who want the 10 commandments posted in public buildings actually had to read the full text of the commandments, they would at least start to understand why the rest of us are so upset and against this.
Please don't ever stop what you are doing, you are among the best if not the best on TH-cam. The way you present the facts is undeniable. You and your efforts to make these videos are EXTREMELY appreciated!
She absolutely failed here but keep "appreciating" LOL...
Anti-slavery verses: (Exodus 21: 16 ,Deuteronomy 24: 7, Exodus 21: 26-27, Deuteronomy 23: 15) and (Psalm 118: 8-9, Psalms 146: 3, Revelation 22:9) all say that worship is to God only, not humans or even angels and Galatians 3: 28 says all are equal. She said there were no verses like these 🤣
@@Xinime You're making yourself look silly here. Deuteronomy 24:7 states "If someone is caught kidnapping a fellow ISRAELITE and treating or selling them as a slave, the kidnapper must die. You must purge the evil from among you." And if you take the time to read ALL of Exodus 21 you can see god has rules you must follow when you do own a slave, as long as it's not an ISRAELITE! Anyone else is fair game.
Deeds outweigh words, here. So, she did not, outright fail.
How did, slavery, using in any way, Leviticus 25 or Exodus 21, in justification, meanwhile, ever resurface, in medieval onward, Christendom?
And how much of that, is due perhaps in part, to divine lassitude, or inaction also?
As He was, very, very clear, if He wanted people punished, for gathering firewood on Sabbath, or hiding Jericho loot (as Achan, and whole family, memorably, did - and terminally, too)@@Xinime
I’m sorry but did you read that out loud as you typed it ? There are rules if you do own a slave ??????? OWNING OTHER PEOPLE IS WRONG ! Period . There is no pretty way to make excuses for your holy book written supposedly by God to be encouraging or defending slavery
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The Bible forbids slavery. "And he that stealeth a man, and selleth him, or if he be found in his hand, he shall surely be put to death" (Exodus 21:16, KJV). Even now, Republicans and Democrats are using illegal aliens as slaves (Revelation 18:13, KJV). That's one reason why the Lord Jesus Christ shall soon judge and destroy the USA for its crimes against humanity. "The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God" (Psalm 9:17, KJV). Even so, come, Lord Jesus! Establish the Kingdom in Jerusalem and save the world from the tyranny of Democracy (Daniel 7:7, KJV)!
hating god and misrepresenting the bible is far from mental wellness
@@davidlafleche1142 The verse you quote says he that "STEALETH a man!" It does NOT say "he that OWNS a man!" This verse could simply be referring to stealing another man's slave. It is NOT clear about this.
@@raysalmon6566, well every different Church accused other church of “misrepresenting” the Bible. Once Christians come up with correct interpretations we can talk.
I always hear the cop out "but that was the old testament"..
And I remind them that *they* claim it's the same god.
@@jezebelvibes lol 😂😂
80% of the bible is Old Testament. I guess there’s plenty to ignore.
Jesus healed a Roman soldier’s slave, but never ordered the soldier to free the slave or even criticized him for owning a slave.
@@broddrinteresting, are you saying that servants were actually slaves throughout the bible?
When I talked to my uncle - he describes himself a "Calvinist-leaning" Christian - I tried to reason with him by saying during the ancient and medieval eras (the time when everyone were still very religious), slavery was the norm and it was modern humanism and not religion that led to the end of slavery and gave human lives greater quality. He just plainly said "Well, if the Bible endorses slavery in certain parts, then I will be fine with slavery if it still largely exists because the Bible - and thus God - said so."
Unless he has to be the slave.
At least he is honest about it. Many claim the Bible to be the perfect word of God but then lie about what it says. Ie it was just indentured servitude, etc. ignoring both that (a) the indentured servant who got married or had a kid while indentured had to either become a slave for life with his wife and child or leave his wife and child as slaves for life) and (b) that there were separate rules for non-Hebrew slaves that was straight chattel slavery. They further ignore that many of the laws in the South on slavery were adapted literally from the Bible and act like Southern slavery was completely different (usually pointing only to the verses about not owning your fellow Isrealite.)
Your uncle fashoo falls under the neatly labeled category of UNEDUCATED, which certain politicians love dearly.
@@mattf5935 oh wow. That last part made more historical sense to me now. The Southern USA is the modern-day Bible Belt, and they are mostly Confederate states. Nice insight.
Why do you only find William Wilberforce, a Christian, the one that led the fight to end slavery? I would like to know who in fact did lead the fight then
This is a crazy topic because nothing makes Christians squirm more, or get more defensive, then when you bring up slavery in the Bible (because I think deep down they know it's a "game over" topic), and yet... it's shocking how at the end of the day SO MANY are ultimately just willing to outright defend slavery in order to maintain their belief. It's absolutely wild, and it's incredible that despite defending slavery or dismissing it or completely gaslighting you over what the Bible says in order to not address it, Christians actually think they have the high-ground over atheist/agnostics when it comes to models of morality.
Pretty clearly summed up my man!
They don't think.
That's the problem.
They were taught not to think.
Not to question.
Why is that? 🤔
@@undrwatropium3724Because they can't. To think you need a brain even the size of a mustard seed. And Christians don't.
Slavery, terrible yes, animal and human sacrifice and the god’s delight in the smell of their burning blood, apparently fine all this time. 🤔
Squirm?
Wont make me squirm, if person is able to discuss about this subject.
Yes slavery is endorsed in both the Old and New Testament but religious people they will make excuses for the indentured servitude and outright ignore the chattel slavery that is clearly present and endorsed in the Wholly Fables aka the Bible.
The Bible forbids slavery.
@@davidlafleche1142It does not.
@@davidlafleche1142 provide the book chapter and verse
“Christians read between the lines and ignore the lines.” Aron Ra
@@Gringo7213 "And he that stealeth a man, and selleth him, or if he be found in his hand, he shall surely be put to death" (Exodus 21:16, KJV). That's why the USA deserved to go through the Civil War. Even today, Republicans and Democrats are using illegal aliens as slaves (Revelation 18:13, KJV). That's one reason why the Lord Jesus Christ shall soon destroy the entire global economic system.
Believing the bible in itself is mind slavery. Kristi you are an ex Xian and an ex slave. Kudos to you.
Religion is prison for your mind and spirit and a weapon in the hands of oppressors.
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The Supreme Deity, of the Bible, gets blamed for many things. ...and this Deity never lives longer than one solar year of 12 months.
@@undrwatropium3724If naturalism were true there simply never would have been anything…th-cam.com/video/CU4lCYLiZLg/w-d-xo.htmlsi=R5xD1PHvEbzzlENy
@@harveywabbit9541 the Supreme deity is made up by groups of human men.
This is the great awakening 🌻
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Abrahamic religions endorsed slavery because that's the relationship they have with their God, Master-Slave. The slave is supposed to obey his master even if the latter is unfair. The same thing is expected from the believers in regards to God; Don't question him, just submit.
Actually they created a god that is a a slave owner because they lived in a society that had this relationship as a prominent part. They projected their own values onto this higher being.
The penalty for kidnapping someone into slavery was death. Many sold themselves into servitude for money..term was 6 years..There is slavery..worse in my opinion..in your area today (human trafficking..underage sex workers) You can blame our weak politicians for that..Not God! MLK would find this reasoning ridiculous..obviously with good reason!!
Islam, even though not banning slavery, endorses buying freedom of slaves as a righteous act. "It is not righteousness that ye turn your faces to the East and the West; but righteous is he who believeth in Allah and the Last Day and the angels and the Scripture and the Prophets; and giveth his wealth, for love of Him, to kinsfolk and to orphans and the needy and the wayfarer and to those who ask, and to set slaves free..." (Quran 2/177)
@@johncena12366 yes but you can still beat your slaves in islam, and you're allowed to buy them and have sex with as many sex slaves as you want even if they were married, like when prophet muhammad (pbuh) killed the husband of the jewish woman safiyya and claimed her
These books were written by German and French jesuits. These books are not as old as they kerp telling us. History of the world was written by German jesuits. They made up ficticious heroes and characters in a world of their imaginations. They wrote entire volumes they attribute from antiquity, with forged fragments of texts. Our history is all lies.
These unpacking sessions are refreshing, real, and honest. They help keep me focused on truth, and spiritual healing. You are the bravest/coolest!
@bibletrivialistsandstatsdid she say it was comprehensive at the beginning? No, she said just the opposite
@bibletrivialistsandstats the Christian god had a special place for the Israelites, and it's known that Israelites weren't to be taken as slaves. That, and the story being completely fictional really makes it lose all purpose.
I've known Christians to practically read Genesis upside down to make it make sense, so looser interpretation really means nothing to me.
In terms of deconstructing, I'm also not the person to talk to about the god of the Bible because I don't believe because it's not in the real world. That's right, an imaginary friend.
@bibletrivialistsandstats On Exodus, I don't care about your opinion. Do your own research. It's well known beyond the supernatural claims that the trip the Israelites supposedly had was impossible.
I don't see medical records released about what doctors thought was wrong with her. She talks about a brain injury, a brain tumor, and no treatment of physical therapy, but unable to grip things making a head injury more likely. No medical records have been released from what I can tell.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Sounds like something that people who want to believe will choose to do so, and the actual explanation isn't very clear.
If you have objective material on the matter, feel free to point me to them, but it was nice talking to you.
The fact that those parts exist in the book should be enough…. That’s like saying ya slavery is wrong but did you this passage ??? Nah no thanks
Just starting the video but this reminded me of the time my step-brother insisted that the Bible didn't condone slavery by 1. pretending that "condone" meant enthusiastically encouraging it and calling it a good thing and 2. by pointing to a passage (I think it may have been in the book of Titus) where Paul sent a slave friend of his back to the slave master with a letter requesting the slave master release the slave so that he could travel with Paul.
Utterly ridiculous.
It's crazy the lengths some people will go to to try to pretend the Bible doesn't say what it actually says.
Those mental gymnastics are backbreaking 😅😅 might as well not have bones
Facts
It wasn't Titus, it was Philemon. And actually Paul never requested that Philemon release Onesimus from his slavery. Only that he accept him back as a fellow believer in Christ and not simply as a slave. This book does not at all say what your step-brother thinks it does.
The Bible was written in Namibia by German Jesuits. The Old Testament is newer than the New Testament.
@@jaycahuenga6416 Biblically Accurate Pretzel
It's amazing how I would gloss over all of this when I was a believer...Yikes! 😬🤦♀
This is the great awakening 🌻
We're all waking up from "the big lie"
You're not the only one. 🙁
@@christophergibson7155so what you’re saying is that believing slavery is bad is the lie… ok😂
@@christophergibson7155nonsense! Read another book!
@christophergibson7155 "God will send them strong delusion." So much for free will, lol.
Keep up the great work Kristi. I have yet to hear a reasonable explanation from Christians on this topic (among many others).
There are many topics in the Bible that we humans will never understand. The people
Were already enslaving people as property from the spoils of war. Did not God help Moses free the Israelites from the Egyptians who had taken the Israelites into slavery as a reward for a war victory? So slavery was already humanly being implemented as proceeds from war victories. God didn't seem like he was agreeing with slavery when He freed the Israelites from the Egyptians and the Bablyonians slavery. God was instructing His people how to treat slaves. You seem to think that slavery was cruel. What about cutting off a thieves hand for stealing or the eye for an eye punishment in the old testament? There are plenty of actions in the Bible that seem to be cruel and unjust punishments. Not just slavery. But it all was God's plan to establish His Kingdom with His people as he saw fit. Not how we see it.
You are listening to a young lady that like most young people today seem to be putting their touchy feelings to interpret the Bible. I would bet that this young lady would be against spanking ones children because it says in the Bible spare not the rod. She wants a world where there is no punishment for wrong doing and just look at what our world has come to!!!
I wish I had a reasonable explanation, but I can't really think of one. This is one aspect of the Bible that I wish didn't exist.
@@PolymorphicPenguinMay you continue to see the flaws in the book.
Pureheathern1720, *America is full of servants/slaves: People who are forced to work because they are not financially independent.* That's most of us. Some people have kind bosses/masters, and some have those who abuse and oppress them.
*"Do not mistreat or oppress a foreigner; remember that you were foreigners in Egypt. Do not mistreat any widow or orphan. If you do, I, the Lord, will answer them when they cry out to me for help, and I will become angry and kill you in war.* Your wives will become widows, and your children will be fatherless." --Exodus 22:21-24
*"Do not mistreat a foreigner; you know how it feels to be a foreigner, because you were foreigners in Egypt."* --Exodus 23:9
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*God is not against foreigners working for others. But He is against foreign workers/slaves/servants being mistreated.*
What shameless dumbass Christians usually do? Deny, deflect, dismiss, gaslight, attack. Explained. Case closed.
Get ready for "but they had to set them free" because the Pastor only told them half the story and left out the tribalistic/nationalist part.
Like that's any kind of justification anyways
only Jesus can set you free.... otherwise you remain a slave to sin with its negative consequences
@@raysalmon6566 incorrect. Prove jesus existed.
@@raysalmon6566 Sin is fiction made up to control the gullible.
Which Jesus? We haven't seen the executed dude for 2023 years. Why is homie in hiding? Tell him he's protected by the "double jeopardy clause" and won't be prosecuted or executed again.
We the members of this channel ain't Christians. İt was the Christians who burned enslaved Africans at the stake.
You’re a first rate explainer. Accurate, direct and to the point.
That Claimed Moral god never once says "Thou shalt NOT own another Human as a Slave!", but it does command us to "not wear clothes woven of two different types of fabric".... to him, that is a NO NO, but owning other Human Beings, that is perfectly fine to him...
In the 2nd set of Commandments that was saved for Israelite posterity in the Ark of the Covenant the biblical god wrote this Tenth Commandment: do not stew a young goat in goat milk.
For Yahweh, forbidding a recipe was a higher moral priority than forbidding or even criticizing slavery.
@@broddr -- Oh yes, that claimed "All Loving" god goes out of his way to make alot of Stupid commandments. A couple more that I remember:
1. Leviticus 19:9 -- "When you reap the harvest of your land, do not reap to the very edges of your field or gather the gleanings of your harvest."
2. Leviticus 19:27 -- " Do not cut the hair at the sides of your head or clip off the edges of your beard."
3. Leviticus 19:28 -- "Do not cut your bodies for the dead or put tattoo marks on yourselves. I am the Lord."
so cutting hair and tattoo marks are VERY important to him... and those are all from Leviticus 19, in there he makes ALOT of Stupid commandments that are Obviously more important to him than ending Slavery. Those are just a couple of the non-lethal ones, that's not even including all the EVIL ones where he Commands ALOT of Killings, including killing BABIES!! Even so, god believers want us to base our "morality" from that god and those books... if only they would actually READ them. But... most don't. Instead, they go to their place of worship and have the nice Handpicked verses read TO them.
For you god believers reading this = Why does your god care more about how we cut our Hair and Fashion than ending SLAVERY!!!??
PREACH!🔥🔥🔥
As a teenager, this was another aspect of Christianity I objected to during Bible studies, that was glossed over. Realizing I was more moral than God, on several matters, turned me off.
The endorsement of slavery was one of the (big) reason i left religion.
We can only wish, that more young people would use critical thinking and common sense like Kristi.
She had none to begin with 😆
Kristi failed and didn't read enough. Anti-slavery verses: (Exodus 21: 16 ,Deuteronomy 24: 7, Exodus 21: 26-27, Deuteronomy 23: 15) and (Psalm 118: 8-9, Psalms 146: 3, Revelation 22:9) all say that worship is to God only, not humans or even angels and Galatians 3: 28 says all are equal.
@@Xinime none of the verses you listed oppose slavery. Kidnapping is completely different from buying a slave as per God's instructions. In none of the verses did God, or Christ say "Thou shall not own another human being as property!". You are a pathetic apologist who, as Matt Dillahunty would say, have sacrificed your morals and your humanity on the altar of your religion. Also, I don't think Kristi said anything about worshiping humans. If you care to look at 6:12 she is quoting Ephesians 6 " Bondservants, obey your earthly masters with fear and trembling, with a sincere heart, as you would Christ.", which is literally ordering the slaves to "treat your master as you would Christ". Now when it comes to Galatians 3: 28, are you really so thick (no offense) that you believe slave could beat master as long as he did not die within 2 days, just because they were all equal, REALLY?! I think you are the one who needs to do some reading, not Kristi...
@@XinimeReligous fanatics like yourself are the ones who don't have sense. The bible clearly endorses and condones slavery. You're just in denial😂
Listening to Christians dance around these subjects is amazing
I just saw that one old street preacher be asked by George Jenko about slavery in the bible and his reply was hilarious, he jumped around the question talking about a bible verse that says do not kidnap people lol
They finally give up and say if god commands it then its moral
God can’t be the slave master if God is the Redeemer
Happy Sunday! Without Church 😁😁
You're smart, Kristi! I welcome you from Hungary!
Went to a fundamentalist Christian school for over a decade. They pointed out a verse in Exodus that forbids a man from stealing another man, and said that that rule meant the bible didn't endorse slavery. Apparently they failed to realize that pretty much every slave endorsing society had certain rules about not allowing citizens to kidnap other citizens. The simple mindedness and willing blindess of these people never fail to befuddle and anger me.
I remember that verse. It’s against “kidnapping”, not owning. Then elsewhere it tells you where and how acquire slaves.
It makes as much sense as pointing to the commandment against stealing and arguing that the Bible doesn’t endorse private property.
@@pansepot1490 There is a difference between Israelites and Gentiles(everyone who isn't an Israelite such as: nations, foreigners, strangers, heathens, and so on).
The OT literally promised the Israelites to destroy or enslave all nations. Here are some quotes which indicate that.
Isaiah 60:16
"You will also suck the milk of nations And suck the breast of kings; Then you will know that I, Yahweh, am your Savior And your Redeemer, the Mighty One of Jacob."
Deuteronomy 11:23-25
"23then Yahweh will dispossess all these nations from before you, and you will dispossess nations greater and mightier than you. 24Every place on which the sole of your foot treads shall be yours; your border will be from the wilderness to Lebanon, and from the river, the river Euphrates, as far as the western sea. 25No man will be able to stand before you; Yahweh your God will put the dread of you and the fear of you on all the land on which you set foot, as He has spoken to you."
Here it is stated that all the nations from Gentiles will become the property of the Israelites.
Psalms 47:3
"3He subdues peoples under us
And nations under our feet."
Again the people from the nations also known as Gentiles will be subdued.
Deuteronomy 14:21
"21“You shall not eat anything which dies of itself. You may give it to the sojourner who is within your gates, so that he may eat it, or you may sell it to a foreigner, for you are a holy people to Yahweh your God. You shall not boil a young goat in its mother’s milk."
In short if you find a road kill you can sell that to Gentiles.
Deuteronomy 23:20
"20You may charge interest to a foreigner, but to your brother you shall not charge interest, so that Yahweh your God may bless you in all that you send forth your hand to do in the land which you are about to enter to possess."
In short you can trick Gentiles with high interest rates and suck them dry.
Deuteronomy 7:22-24
"22And Yahweh your God will clear away these nations before you little by little; you will not be able to put an end to them quickly, lest the wild beasts become too numerous for you. 23But Yahweh your God will give them over before you and will throw them into great confusion until they are destroyed. 24And He will give their kings into your hand so that you will make their name perish from under heaven; no man will be able to stand before you until you have destroyed them."
Here the nations will be slowly destroyed little by little and take note we are even called wild beasts here. And how is he going to destroy us? Through confusion. How do you confuse? Through deception.
Deuteronomy 2:25
"25This day I will begin to put the dread and fear of you upon the peoples everywhere under the heavens, who, when they hear the report of you, will tremble and be in anguish because of you.’"
In context this was after some slaughters in which he gave the Amorites into their hands. But recognize that he speaking here about everywhere under the heavens. So all on earth. He is stating here that he will make all people fear the Israelites. That they are in anguish because of them.
Leviticus 25:44-46
"44As for your male and female slaves whom you may have-you may acquire male and female slaves from the nations that are around you. 45And also you may acquire from the sons of the foreign residents who sojourn among you, from them and their families who are with you; as for those whom they have begotten in your land, they also may become your possession. 46You may even give them as an inheritance to your sons after you, to receive as a possession; you can use them as permanent slaves. But in respect to your brothers, the sons of Israel, you shall not have dominion over one another with brutality."
Take a look at how Gentiles become permanent slaves who can even be inherited. You can even be brutal to them as long as they are not Israelites. How brutal can you be? Let's check this out:
Exodus 21:20-21
"20“And if a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod and he dies at his hand, he shall surely be punished. 21But if for a day or two he is able to stand, no punishment shall be taken; for he is his property."
Isaiah 61:5-6
"5Strangers will stand and pasture your flocks,
And foreigners will be your farmers and your vinedressers.
6But you will be called the priests of Yahweh;
You will be spoken of as ministers of our God.
You will eat the wealth of nations,
And in their glories you will boast."
In short Gentiles become your labor force and you will suck their wealth away from them. And you can even boast about robbing others of their labor.
Isaiah 45:14
"14Thus says Yahweh,
“The fruit of the labor of Egypt and the profit of Ethiopia
And the Sabeans, men of stature,
Will come over to you and will be yours;
They will walk behind you; they will come over in chains
And will bow down to you;
They will make supplication to you:
‘Surely, God is with you, and there is none else,
No other God.’ ”"
Another one which promises enslavement of Gentiles. In this regards it mentioned some specific nations though.
Isaiah 60:10-12
"10“Foreigners will build up your walls,
And their kings will minister to you;
For in My wrath I struck you,
And in My favor I have had compassion on you.
11“Your gates will be open continually;
They will not be closed day or night,
So that men may bring to you the wealth of the nations,
With their kings led in procession.
12“For the nation and the kingdom which will not serve you will perish,
And the nations will surely be laid waste."
Here we go again: Suck the nations of their wealth and the ones who don't want to will be destroyed. In short become their labor slave or die.
Isaiah 49:23
"23“Kings will be your guardians,
And their princesses your nurses.
They will bow down to you with their faces to the earth
And lick the dust of your feet;
And you will know that I am Yahweh;
Those who hope in Me will not be put to shame."
Here the Kings of the Gentiles will become guardians and nurses and kneel in front of them and get humiliated.
Jeremiah 1:10
"10“See, I have appointed you this day over the nations and over the kingdoms,
To uproot and to tear down,
To cause to perish and to pull down,
To build and to plant.”"
Here they have the "divine" right to uproot and tear down the nations without their consent of course.
Jeremiah 46:28
"28“O Jacob My servant, do not fear,” declares Yahweh,
“For I am with you.
For I will make a complete destruction of all the nations
Where I have banished you,
Yet I will not make a complete destruction of you;
But I will discipline you with justice
And by no means leave you unpunished.”"
Read this. He will make a COMPLETE destruction of ALL the nations where he has the "Chosens" banished to. So if a Chosenite is in your country then according to this, your country will be completely destroyed. You find more or less the same quotes in Jeremiah 30:10-11.
Jeremiah 51:20-23
"20 He says, “You are My instrument of shattering, My weapon of war;
And with you I shatter nations,
And with you I destroy kingdoms.
21“With you I shatter the horse and his rider,
And with you I shatter the chariot and its rider,
22And with you I shatter man and woman,
And with you I shatter old man and youth,
And with you I shatter choice man and virgin,
23And with you I shatter the shepherd and his flock,
And with you I shatter the farmer and his pair of oxen,
And with you I shatter governors and prefects."
Before I start, these quotes are in context with the calamity against Babylon. But since he is speaking generally in these quotes I added them. Look what he is saying. The Israelites are his weapon of war which brings destruction to Gentiles. And of course he has to go into details like shattering man, woman, old man and young and so on. Please now, just imagine there are some Israelites/Jews who take that book seriously with quotes like this. Don't you think they would be a danger to all other people on this planet?
Daniel 2:44
"44And in the days of those kings the God of heaven will cause a kingdom to rise up which will never be destroyed, and that kingdom will not be left for another people; it will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, but it will itself stand forever."
The context here is the dream which Daniel interpreted. Well that's something all the abrahamic faith believers want because they think that it's the rule of their savior. But at the end of the day this is one world government. A system once it is corrupt will bring a nightmare to all the common people on this planet. Everyone supporting one world government is in my opinion an enemy "a Satan" to all the commoners.
Psalms 2:8-9
"8Ask of Me, and I will surely give the nations as Your inheritance,
And the ends of the earth as Your possession.
9You shall break them with a rod of iron,
You shall shatter them like a potter’s vessel.”"
Here you can get Gentiles as possession by demand and are allowed to crush them.
@@nezz0rTH-cam is not the place for copy-pasting long essays. Nobody's going to read it. If you want to make a point, make it with one or two examples and ditch the rest.
@@pansepot1490 It's concerned about "ethically-sourced slavery", yep.
Like, okay, so the bible DID improve its chattel slavery (Romans treated slaves like pets and continuously complained about freeman ex-slaves demanding rights and stuff and called THEM "slaves" anyway; meanwhile the Greeks called their slaves "body", "child", "human-footed [animal]", and would dress them up in animal skins in Sparta)...
It improved it from "they're cattle" to "they're pets, and you shouldn't permanently maim or kill a pet".
And we're really supposed to praise that? like, any farmer with a hint of sense even back then would ALREADY be doing that for their working animals, because those are expensive and it takes time to train one, so extending it to slaves shouldn't have been so revolutionary if humans weren't such sadists when they get enough power/resources that they can afford slaves.
@@pansepot1490
The verse states that if a man kidnaps a men and sells him, the kidnapper is liable to be killed. Note the bit about selling.
You are up to 33,500 followers now, and very well deserving of ten times that number. Please keep on keepin' on
You've done it Kristi - TWO MILLION VIEWS! Fantastic achievement. Congratulations. 👏
@@honeyho271 Loser.
So, if you beat your slave so savagely that he dies on the THIRD day;...well, no harm, no foul!😳
god is love, ramen
Well it takes a lot of precision and god appreciates an artist when he sees one.
The point is: do not punish your "slave" too hard.
If your slave dies quickly, in a day or two, it’s your fault. But if the slave survives the initial beating but then dies, it’s clearly god’s will.
@@mikemental8285 rubbish. The point is you can beat your slave almost to the point of killing them on the spot.
Please do more of a deep dive, this needs to be reiterated over and over and over again
Wouldn't this contradict "do onto others as you would have them do onto you"?
Yes, yes it would
Oop 😮
Yet this is straight from the Hebrew Scriptures (and, being honest, every other "Scriptural Tradition" from Every Other Religious Tradition - and all of them owned Slaves!)....
It is almost as if early christians were wrong canonizing the old testament.
@@johncena12366 it's almost as if christians are wrong.
FIFY 👍
Jesus says to treat others as you would treat yourselves, and here some Christians are, defending slavery. The irony.
@@blowfly5936 exactly. That's the issue I have with it
Hebrew's slavery has nothing to do with "cottonfield slavery".
Anyone who is open to actually read the Bible, more than few torn off context - verses
@@mikemental8285 Slavery in any context is bad, dude
@@blowfly5936
I have no interest to argue with you or anyone else.
But i gladly discuss about the Bible.
Even about slavery or any other subject, this channel's owner says no christians want to discuss, but only if "opponent" is discussing with manners 😉
@@Dingolia
Word the "slave" was translated from hebrew, means "to work".
They were workers.
Not slaves in sense you think.
I learn something new with every video. Thanks Kristi for helping me turn the corner and opening my eyes to all of the hypocrisy.
What hypocrisy?
@@davidlafleche1142 Christian love and kindness. It's a façade.
Greetings to you...I am pleased Kristi helped you. She is doing such good.
@@daydays12 No she isn't.
Believe with all of your heart the gospel, and you will be saved and set free. The real power is in the gospel according to God it only has the power to set a person free from the bondage of sin and death.
This is not just head knowledge and knowing this.
This trust comes from your heart when you truly believe it.
Rest and trust in the assurance that Jesus Christ gives us the gift of eternal life and a new glorified body at the rapture and new heavens and earth
Please ask God to show you this truth
Romans 1:16
“For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to everyone that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.”
Testifying Both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, Repentance Toward God, and faith Toward our Lord Jesus Christ. acts 20:21).
The Bad News
The first mention of not inheriting the kingdom of God is found in Paul’s first letter to the church at Corinth.
Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God?
1 Corinthians 6:9-10
Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.
Galatians 5:19-21
19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, 20 idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
21 envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
THE GOOD NEWS
We receive the holy spirit of Christ when we believe the gospel
Ephesians 1:13-14 (ESV)
13 In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit,
14 Who is the guarantee of our inheritance until we acquire possession of it, to the praise of his glory
(1 Corinthians 15:(1-4). THE GOSPEL THAT SAVES, PAUL SPEAKING
Moreover, brethren, I declared unto you the Gospel which I preached unto you, which also you have received, and wherein you stand, by which also you are saved
if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless you have believed in vain.
4 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures, And that He was buried, and that He rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
5 And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve:
6 After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep.
7 After that, he was seen of James; then of all the apostles.
8 And last of all he was seen of me also, as of one born out of due time.
9 For I am the least of the apostles, that am not meet (suitable) to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God.
Ephesians 2:8-9
For by grace, you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast.
Revelation 1:5
And from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of kings on earth. To him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by his blood
ROMANS 3
24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
Ephesians 1:7
In Him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our Sins, according to the riches of his grace.
For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
A person must TRUST THE BLOOD of Jesus Christ, which He shed at the cross, as sufficient to SAVE his SOUL. God will not accept our works. He will only accept those who receive his gift of love by faith. God is the justifier; we cannot justify ourselves. We must come to God and trust him to be saved.
Rom. 5:1 Therefore, being justified by FAITH, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:
John 5:39
Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.”
PLEASE UNDERSTAND THIS
Rom. 5:9 Much more, then, being now justified by his BLOOD, we shall be SAVED from wrath through him.
According to the Bible, salvation, or JUSTIFICATION, is by GRACE through FAITH in the BLOOD of Jesus Christ, like it says about in Romans 3:25! In other words, when your faith is solely in the Blood, you are SAVED!
How about it? Won't you trust the blood of Jesus Christ today to save your soul from Eternity in the Lake of Fire?
Philippians 2:6-11
Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
10That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
Jesus himself reminds us, “I tell you, do not be anxious about your life, what you will eat or what you will drink
Look at the birds of the air: they neither sow nor reap nor gather into barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not of more value than they?” (Matthew 6:25-26).
1 Peter 1
Greeting
1 Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ,
To those who are elect exiles of the Dispersion in Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia, 2 according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, in the sanctification of the Spirit, for obedience to Jesus Christ and for sprinkling with his blood:
May grace and peace be multiplied to you.
Born Again to a Living Hope
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! According to his great mercy, he has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, 4 to an inheritance that is imperishable, undefiled, and unfading, kept in heaven for you,
5 who by God's power are being guarded through faith for salvation ready to be revealed in the last time. 6 In this you rejoice, though now for a little while, if necessary, you have been grieved by various trials,
7 so that the tested genuineness of your faith-more precious than gold that perishes though it is tested by fire-may be found to result in praise and glory and honor at the revelation of Jesus Christ.
8 Though you have not seen him, you love him. Though you do not now see him, you believe in him and rejoice with joy that is inexpressible and filled with glory,
9 obtaining the outcome of your faith, the salvation of your souls.
You don't understand how much I crave your new videos 😂
Keep doing what you do, please don’t stop. You’re helping many people open their eyes.
You are doing awesome work. You're going to free many. 🤘🏻❤️
Thank you dearest Kristy for this tape...
If I am wrong, and am therefore punished, I have at least been right not to praise Him.
@@Jak-5 What utter nonsense all of those things are unproven NDEs are useless near death is not death, no one comes back from that, and the witnesses you are talking.about, names and adresses, vague prophecies that can be interpreted to mean anything none are specific, you really are deep in the rabbit hole of magical thinking without any evidence, no, "NO" supernatural claims have ever been proven.
You're on the verge of 2 million views! 👌
Go Kristi! 👏
Hi Kristi, I’ve written a couple of books on this issue, if you’d ever like me to come on and talk about it -Dr. Josh.
Hi! 👋 I'm familiar with your work! Thanks so much for reaching out. I will shoot you an email 😁
Dr. Josh = HIGHLY RECOMMENDED, Kristi.
The Bow Tie Doc is in the house!!! 😃🤙
@@jezebelvibes Sounds great!
This is precisely why im an atheist
... shame😂
Agreed, she does such a great job of talking through basic common sense that seems to escape so many that have undergone religious indoctrination
These evil Christian slave owners actually published a fake Slave Bible (1807) to validate and preserve the system of slavery. Christianity indeed is a vampiric monster.
@@Jak-5 Amen!
@@Jak-5i see near death experiences the same as people on acid trips.
When youre hallucinating on acid, youre only seeing things because your brain is ON DRUGS and MALFUNCTIONING. causing you to see things that arent actually there. Therefore things seen on acid are not reliable.
In a NDE, let's say a car crash. Theres blood loss, theres concussions, theres spinal things, all of which can starve your brain of blood, damage your brain itself, or cause other havoc in the body. Causing hallucinations. Therefore, im less likely to believe a NDE than testimony from a sober healthy person. Your brain is MALFUNCTIONING. Therefore not reliable.
Not to mention, people from different religions see DIFFERENT gods during NDE's. Theres 4000 different religions. And COUNTLESS different branches of each religion.
They ALL claim to be the 'one true religion ' 😂 the odds are against you bro.
They cant all be right. At most only ONE can be right. And since they ALL rely on FAITH, which is defined as "belief without evidence " id rather just avoid it all.
Not to mention the HORRORS of various holy texts, especially the bible, and the HISTORY of religion itself.
I dont care if god is real or not. I find him far too immoral to worship regardless 😂
And i dont know what happens when i die. And you know what, thats okay. That just means i have to cherish this lifetime. I dont believe life has an objective meaning. But that just means im free to choose myown meaning.
And id rather admit i dont know something than latch onto a faith based philosophy that i cannot prove. Spoken as a 20 year catholic, now turned atheist.
Best wishes friend. I hope you have a fantastic day
I've forwarded this to a few people. Another great video. Big hug from Rienzi Mississippi 😎
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Fantastic summary Kristi! Your video gave me an idea - we should make a new "translation" of the Bible that corrects all the immoral and pointless commands of the Bible into moral and sensible commands. The preface of this Bible would say that all the other translations are corrupted by the devil, and that this one restores the true intent of a loving, moral God. Can you imagine the uproar and debate this could stoke?
The BIBLE is not a book about Atheism, Agnosticism, Christianity, Buddhism, Hinduism, Islam, and Religions
The BIBLE is not about slavery and sins.
The BIBLE REVEALS
the CREATOR'S FAVOR and REWARD for LOVING, KIND, and RESPECTFUL PERSONS on EARTH
Imperfect, suffering, and dying human beings who -
1. love, honor, and obey the Creator as their loving, kind, and merciful God and Heavenly Father in obedience to what were written in Mark 12: 29, 30 and John 17: 3
2. submit to the authority of Jesus Christ and believe his teachings about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" in obedience to what were written in Matthew 28: 18, Luke 4: 43, and John 11: 25, 26
are the loving, kind, and respectful persons on earth
who can be trusted with anything and are worthy and deserving of the Creator's favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death on a safe, secure, and peaceful earth without liars, traitors, immoral, perverts, and murderers as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4 and 21: 8
The BIBLE REVEALS
the ROLE of JESUS CHRIST as the RIGHTFUL HEAVENLY MASTER and KING -
All human beings have no immortal souls and will just become worthless and useless dusts on earth after their deaths just like the animals as written in Ecclesiastes 3: 19, 20 and 9: 5, 6
but all loving, kind, and respectful worshippers of the Creator and followers of his Christ who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Mary, Martha, Lazarus, and many others will not remain as worthless dusts forever,
instead, in the right and proper time,
Jesus Christ, as a loving, kind, and merciful Heavenly Master and King,
will resurrect them back to life so they can all happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects of the
"KINGDOM of GOD"
and fully enjoy his and the Creator's eternal love, kindness, goodness, compassions, generosities, favors, and blessings for eternity under his loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection as the Creator's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
@@jaflenbond7854 the bible is written by people, and is nothing more than their beliefs, viewpoints, and opinions. It was not written by god, and any claim for divine inspiration is just that - a claim.
@@bulakhv No one is forcing you to respect the Bible as the Word of God and source of Truths.
No one is forcing you to submit to the authority of Jesus Christ and believe his teachings about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead"
You are free to submit to the authority, power, and control of Satan the Devil and believe the Unbiblical teachings of his anti-Christs about "Armageddon", "Trinity", "heaven and hellfire", "rapture", and "reincarnation".
Nothing has changed, just the same,
ETERNAL LIFE and existence without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death on a safe, secure, and peaceful earth without liars, traitors, immoral, perverts, and murderers is still the Creator's favor and reward for his worshippers and followers of his Christ.
Nothing has changed, just the same,
Jesus Christ, as a loving, kind, and merciful Heavenly Master and King,
in the right and proper time, will still resurrect back to life all his loving, kind, and respectful followers and worshippers of the Creator who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Mary, Martha, Lazarus, and many others so they can all happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects of the
"KINGDOM of GOD"
and fully enjoy his and the Creator's eternal love, kindness, goodness, compassions, generosities, favors, and blessings for eternity under his loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection as the Creator's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth.
Know how ridiculous you shameless Christians look, telling same lies for 2023 years and fighting brutal wars in the name of Jesus, yet nothing has changed?
@@jaflenbond7854 And yet, here you are saying "It's your choice, but if you don't choose my point of view, you're going to hell". You are a manipulator and I think that's disgusting.
I recently begun my deconstruction journey, and Kristi,... your knowledge of the holy book, and how you present these facts from this other side has really been helpful. I camp at your tiktok and YT, and I must say, you get better and better each day. Keep up the good work. I love that your knowledge of that holy book as a christian before is mighty handy from this other side. Soar higher girl.
.....but a little knowledge can be a dangerous thing! And in the case of Kristi, this is sadly the case! She is someone who has enough knowledge to dissuade some people from Christianity (clearly her aim), but insufficient knowledge to present a convincing academic argument that doesn't fall apart under scrutiny!
There are a lot of people like this on the internet and You Tube is literally full of them! Tragically this is a misuse of the internet, where people who are often gullible, lacking any depth of knowledge on virtually any subject, are being seriously misled by people who think they are knowledgeable and can inform everyone, but aren't in fact correctly representing the facts or truth.
In Kirsti's case, she puts her arguments in such a way as to attract people that are satisfied with shallow reasoning and the lazy. Sadly the internet is very much a place where the lazy who would not do any serious book study, find their 'information' and any person with any grievance of any kind, will be found on the internet, trying to persuade others to their position and beliefs! Thus such people are easily taken in and 'de-converted' from whatever beliefs or ideas they previously had about anything!
When it comes to the Bible, it is such a immense and quite difficult book to grasp and understand, that without years of study of it, you are unlikely to know very much about it! This means that when you try and make the shortcut to understanding the Bible and you choose someone on You Tube that appeals to you, you VERY likely to be being completely misled by them!!!
@@theonlyway5298 just drink your kool-aid 🙄
@@Thumbelina298 of course. You don't want any help, because you have chosen to listen to someone that appeals to your own desires! I understand. But I thought it was important to be kind enough to you, to point this out to you, that you are very likely being deceived by Kirsti and her arguments, especially when you examine her arguments at depth, you find that they don't in fact hold true - they are not realistic. So by all means, 'believe' in Kirsti and her arguments, that is your own choice, but just know that behind her arguments, there is no depth and they are completely misleading people!
You are following your own desires and I understand this and when someone chooses something they desire, there is no one that can persuade them otherwise! Parents see this with their children all the time, when children reject their parent's advice and end up making serious mistakes in life! They were following what they thought was right....but in fact what they were following was very unwise and the result was the mess they made for their own life. Take care!
@@theonlyway5298 just keep drinking it, and take care too!
@@Thumbelina298 Yes friend, take care and it was nice speaking with you.
thank you. its like sludge on my mind is coming off
I was literally just about to look for chapters that talk about slavery after learning that the Bible condones it
Really convenient timing for you to upload this video, your videos help me so much. Thanks Kristi!
She gets us
Kristi helped no one and nothing. Anti-slavery verses: (Exodus 21: 16 ,Deuteronomy 24: 7, Exodus 21: 26-27, Deuteronomy 23: 15) and (Psalm 118: 8-9, Psalms 146: 3, Revelation 22:9) all say that worship is to God only, not humans or even angels and Galatians 3: 28 says all are equal. She said there were no verses like these 🤣
@@Xinime Yeah... you might want to reread Exodus 21: 26-27 if you really want to consider those as "anti-slavery"
Exodus 21: 16 isn't necessarily saying anything wrong about owning slaves, so not really an anti-slavery verse
You could make a point for Deuteronomy 24: 7 though... if you ignore Leviticus 25: 42-46. So you might want to take a look at those verses
Deuteronomy 23: 15 could work as an anti-slavery verse... but only if you ignore verses like (again) Leviticus 25: 42-46, 1 Peter 2: 18-20, and a couple of other verses
For Psalms 118: 8-9, Psalms 146: 3, and Revelation 22: 9... worshipping God has nothing to do with condemning slavery, so you're not really making a point
And as for Galatians 3: 28... wow... you have to take out major context in that verse to make it seem like it condemns slavery
If you're going to say that the Bible is against slavery, then at least be truthful about the verses you use as evidence. So far, you just proved Kristi right (in more ways than one)
@@Xinime I can tell you didn't watch the video or actually read your Bible... because many of the verses she shows in this video prove that the Bible isn't against slavery unless you *really* cherry-pick verses, which you just did with me
@@FighterOfWrongs
"You just proved Kristi right" what a hilarious cope and all those other verses were in response to her other claims outside of the slavery period where she said you should be compliant to certain people as you would to God but those last verses prove her wrong and the verses I labeled "anti slavery" were to invalidate her claim of there being nothing against slavery in the Bible so yeah, Kristi is still wrong. 😆
You make a lot of sense!💯😎👍
Here to enjoy another Kristi vid🎉
Interesting to me how fundamentalists explain away teachings on slavery, but won’t do the same with teachings on women being submissive. They need someone to keep under their control.
That's the purpose for the whole religion. They use guilt and shame perpetuated by fear to keep women and children oppressed.
And they ignore Jesus’s 2nd Commandment, “love thy neighbor as thyself” and use the Old Testament to abuse the LGBTQ community and treat them as scapegoats.
let’s be real if any scripture had ever specifically condemned slavery it would have been edited out a thousand years ago
You have a fair point there but there’s other verses that critique the rich and powerful that got left in. So you could argue both ways tbh. All this under the Caveat that this is supposed to be the unalterable word of god
One of the parts that shows the reality of people who wrote Bible.
Justification for human $lavery with god's endorcement.
i want you to know how much i appreciate and enjoy your videos. you've helped me a lot. i'm glad someone is out there who feels the same about these things as me-- it is a controversial topic in real life and you give me hope
Being raised a biblical fundamentalist and happening to join a pacifist sect/cult (the Amish) I was astounded and angry when speaking to one of the local Amish here, and the subject of biblical slavery was broached. The man, in response to my pointing out Leviticus 25:44-46 commented that as long as the master was kind to his slave, it was okay (meaning blessed of God). So I decided to up the ante and see what he thought of slavery in our time, or in “The New Covenant” under Christ. His response? The same. If a master is kind to his slave, it is okay. Now not all Amish would be so blunt and would hem and haw around the subject, but not this guy. Being a former devout Amish Christian myself, I would have never dreamed of supporting slavery so blatantly. I was seething with “righteous indignation” and cursed him to his face. My 3 times great grandfather owned around 5-6 slaves in Virginia in his time. It is a dark mark on my family heritage and I loathe to think of it. And here this Amish man, who is supposed to be representing the good news of salvation in Christ has the insanity to take such an abominable position. WTF?!
Thank you Kristi for your clear presentation here. It lays the ax to the root of this evil.
Haha, it's obvious you never borned in your heart. Anger like this is like looking in rear-view mirror where everything gets bigger! You become angry for nothing about this. Amish themselves never used slavery and your ancient family has nothing to do with yourself. Whatever the bible says is just a guide for the times, it's not unique if you study other cultures. (and read how the Amish indentured themselves with works for freedom)
You should have asked to buy one of his children. Selling your children into slavery is perfectly ok according to the Bible.
@@jasfan8247 I’m not sure if you’re being facetious or what, and your grammar is so poor as to question your intelligence, however, this principle must be upheld, that owning other people as property always has and always will be a crime against humanity. Therefore it doesn’t matter if a pacifistic sect/cult like the Amish never owned slaves. Because they uphold a religious bool as sacred that endorses slavery. Righteous indignation towards evils such as this is fully justified, and it is why the civil war was fought. You, sir, if meaning what I think you mean, to excuse slavery as culture are as guilty as all who condone and stand by as inhumane practices are allowed. May you soon come to your senses soon for the good of humanity!
@@evevangelist5910 Haha! Dumb ,dumber....etc. Farrelly Bros. Great movies. Don't shoot the messenger. Haven't you committed the biggest sin with your "so-called" righteous anger bla-bla....."humanity" is safe in your hands. Keep on seeking....
@@broddr Well, people have done that to keep their kids from starving and other reasons, also for career possibilities. You might do some research about the circumstances in Roman/Greek days.
What a breath of fresh air. All your posts on TH-cam are the best I have seen, and I hope the messages that you promote are spread throughout the world. Keep it up.
Yes, slavery is endorsed throughout the old and new testaments. Here are a couple other spots in the new testament.
Colossians 3:22
Slaves, obey your earthly masters in everything; and do it, not only when their eye is on you and to curry their favor, but with sincerity of heart and reverence for the Lord.
Luke 12:47
The servant who knows the master’s will and does not get ready or does not do what the master wants will be beaten with many blows.
Thank you for your work, Kristi. It's important that this information is shared.
ATHEISTS VS. GOD'S SOVEREIGNTY
After studying the BIBLE,
Atheists rejected God's Sovereignty, will, and commandments as worthless and useless
and
fill the world instead with their claims that God doesn't exist and the Bible is just a worthless and useless book of lies, myths, fictions, fantasies, and fairy tales.
CHRISTIANS and ALL RELIGIONS VS. JESUS CHRIST'S AUTHORITY and TEACHINGS
After studying the BIBLE,
Christians and all kinds of Religions rejected the authority and teachings of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" as worthless and useless
and
fill the world instead with their Unbiblical teachings about "Armageddon", "heaven and hellfire", "Trinity", "rapture", and "reincarnation".
GOD'S FAVOR and REWARD of ETERNAL LIFE and EXISTENCE on EARTH
Jesus Christ KNOWS
that the loving, kind, and merciful God's favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death on a safe, secure, and peaceful earth without liars, immoral, traitors, perverts, and murderers as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4 and 21: 8
is definitely
NOT for Atheists, Agnostics, Christians, and all Religions who are filling the world with their -
1. claims that God doesn't exist and the Bible is just a worthless book of lies, myths, fictions, fantasies, and fairy tales
2. Unbiblical teachings and doctrines about "Armageddon", "heaven and hellfire", "Trinity", "rapture", and "reincarnation"
but
ONLY for all lowly, ordinary, kind, and submissive persons on earth who submit to his authority and believe his teachings about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" as written in Matthew 28: 18, Luke 4: 43, and John 11: 25, 26.
God KNOWS
that all Atheists, Agnostics, Christians and all Religions in the world who rejected his Sovereignty and his Christ's authority and teachings as worthless and useless will just become worthless and useless dusts on earth forever after their natural deaths
but
all his loving, kind, and respectful worshippers and followers of his Christ who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Mary, Martha, Lazarus, and many others will not remain as worthless dusts forever,
instead, in the right and proper time,
he will let
Jesus Christ, as a loving, kind, and merciful Heavenly Master and King,
resurrect them back to life so they can all happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects of the
"KINGDOM of GOD" or His Kingdom
and fully enjoy his and his Christ's eternal love, kindness, goodness, compassions, generosities, favors, and blessings for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
@@jaflenbond7854 quite a rant. Unfortunately, no evidence to support any of it at all. Happily, your little sadistic fantasies will never come true. 2000+ years of miserable failure.
This is how you know people aren't reading the book. They know the same few repeated verses they've heard since they were two. There's some wicked stuff in that book 💯
you reached over 33k people in just 1 hour! you are shining bright. keep it up. Ken Copeland and the other mega preachers would be jealous of you. You are reaching as many as they are
_Atheism is simply a never ending campaign to proselytize as many humans as possible into becoming slaves in service of the Great Nothingness that's our there_ !
'Kristi', from Latin, means "follower of Christ"
The irony... seriously 😂😂
Well Atheists have right to “proselytize” as religious folks. Thanks to advancement of Science, future looks in our direction not yours. 34% of Americans and half of millennials and Gen-Z have no religion
I felt this. DEEP!!!
“It’s the way it was back then!”
Yeah… and people ate pork and shellfish, and rabbits… but there’s laws against that.
It’s easier to say “don’t own people,” than it is to say “here’s who you can own, and how you should treat them.”
Well done as usual, thanks!
Ive discussed this with my girlfriend before. It got heated. She always pulls the whole, “you have no objective reasoning to say its bad” “what can you say about god when you’re just a finite being” it gets a little frustrating to say the least.
Honestly leave her !
@@gowdsake7103 shes still the best thing thats ever happened to me. Ive welcomed and encouraged the debates, so I bring it on myself. Its expected. I still like hearing her views on the subject.
Funny how god specifically states that homosexuality is a sin and should be punishable by death and yet he permits the owning of other human beings as property.
He can make rules against wearing mixed fabrics. But outlawing slavery? Come on man, god may be omnipotent, but he can't do that!
In the second set of the Ten Commandments, the ones preserved in the Ark of the Covenant, god used the 10th Commandment to forbid the moral outrage of a particular recipe: you can’t cook a young goat in goat milk.
But somehow forbidding or even criticizing slavery never got on his to-do list. 🤔
As a black women this was one of the big things that influenced my decision to leave Christianity at 16 years old
@@bosniacuraThis is TH-cam and you must write short and concise. This is what hillbilly Christians like you can't do.
SIS tell your homies to also leave Christianity in droves for "if you're a black Christian, you have a real short memory."
@@bosniacura There is no context in witch slavery is o.k the Bible goes into detail explaining the difference between indentured servitude and slavery and is fine with both, it even tells you how you can trick your indentured servants into becoming your property forever, so no i will never put my trust in the Lord even if he is proved to be real, read Exodus 21 and Leviticus 25.
I'll tell ya foo. Your Christ was charged with seditious conspiracy, convicted and executed with two other criminals. End of story!
Will, you please go, and read 2 Samuel 24:1, or something?
I don't care if He didn't 'tell' David, to sin.
'Inciting' him is more, than close, enough.
Also, go un-schism yourselves! And explain Revelations 13:8, better, too.
And for a New Covenant, it took, centuries, to even, directly address, slavery, in a definitive way.
And the whole bureaucracy, involved.
Also, schism, after schism - plus, war, after war.
Not all of them, solely feudal, also.
And 1 Corinthians 2:14, plus Romans 8:30, says nothing about, being 'one', either.@@bosniacura
In a matter of time, I'll confess to my christian family that I became an atheist.
There will be a lot of mixed reactions, but I don’t care, I want to heal from my deconversion
Just ask them if they love you, or the lord more!
Good luck! And take care. One hears very unpleasant stories about how people are treated after coming out. I hope you have things thought through: in case of doubt, waiting a little more won’t hurt. There’s resources on the internet and TH-cam on how to come out as atheist to family and friends. Listening to people who have already made that experience can be useful.
Again, all the best, 👍
@@pansepot1490Thanks, as a matter of fact, I saw content from other Atheists such as Genetically Modified Skeptic, Darkmatter2525, Belief it or Not and Prophet of Zod.
Thanks for giving an honest perspective of this. I completely agree with you.
I’ve had Christians tell me the Old Testament does not count
Your response should be, "So, guess we can dump those Ten Commandments"
@@thedude0000No, whatever Verse you pick from the new testament,will take you right back to the old testament.The word of the LORD. Is written precept upon precept,line upon line and line upon line.
You cannot interpret the new testament without the old.
@@jianth First, you need to prove the bible is the "word of the lord". As of now, it just appears to be a series of books written by men in ancient times.
@@thedude0000 what will be a evident enough proof for you to believe that God exist?
Because I've listened to atheist like Richard Dawkins and he just doesn't wanna believe that God exist.
He said in his own words that even if Jesus came back from the cloud, he would call it a stunt.
So,if you're an atheist like him, it is hard to prove to them because they Just don't wanna believe in God
@@jianth _what will be a evident enough proof for you to believe that God exist?_
1) if a god existed, he would know what evidence would convince me.
2) The bible is littered with NUMEROUS examples of god directly interacting with humans and making his existence known.
Why are you bringing up Richard Dawkins? It's a non-sequitur on this topic.
Just ask them ONE question: "Show me one place in the Bible when ANYONE spoke out against slavery."
Being forced to work for someone else is necessary in this world because we are not all financially independent. Being "forced" to work for someone else to make a living is to be a "slave". Most people are grateful to work for someone (have a job) though, aren't they? BUT they do not want to be mistreated. God is against that also.
God is not against foreigners working for others. But He is against foreign workers/slaves/servants being mistreated:
*"Do not mistreat or oppress a foreigner; remember that you were foreigners in Egypt. Do not mistreat any widow or orphan. If you do, I, the Lord, will answer them when they cry out to me for help, and I will become angry and kill you in war.* Your wives will become widows, and your children will be fatherless." --Exodus 22:21-24
*"Do not mistreat a foreigner; you know how it feels to be a foreigner, because you were foreigners in Egypt."* --Exodus 23:9
Has ANY slanderer of God ever told the whole truth about the matter, or do they continue to mislead?
@@knowledgeispower2787there's being forced to work and then there's being forced to be someone else's chattel, which the bible endorses. And then it does go on to encourage mistreatment, you could beat your ""employee"" as long as it didn't kill them within a certain amount of time
@@knowledgeispower2787
"Being forced to work for someone else is necessary in this world because we are not all financially independent. Being "forced" to work for someone else to make a living is to be a "slave"."
Nope, not even close. Your definitions are off.
You construe "being forced to work" as being something needed to survive in society. Yet no one is "forced" to work for any particular place if they don't want to work there. What keeps them in jobs they are unhappy with is the circumstances and many who can quit do quit. There are no laws that will force them to work even if they are not happy with working in such a place, and they won't be hunted down and forcefully returned to their "owners" the way slaves are if they do quit. heck, the laws explicitly forbit such a thing.
So yeah, modern day working circumstances? Not slavery, not even close. Just because you wish you could live without working doesn't mean that because you can't and have to work despite being unwilling means you are a slave, it simply means you're a snowflake who is salty about not getting their way.
"But He is against foreign workers/slaves/servants being mistreated:"
Leviticus 25:44-46: "‘Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly."
As for the treatment of slaves:
"Exodus 20:21 "Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property."
Exodus 20:26-27: "An owner who hits a male or female slave in the eye and destroys it must let the slave go free to compensate for the eye. And an owner who knocks out the tooth of a male or female slave must let the slave go free to compensate for the tooth.""
"Has ANY slanderer of God ever told the whole truth about the matter, or do they continue to mislead?"
Well the above "truth teller" for Go has certainly not told the truth about the whole matter regarding slavery. What does it say about you when you do exactly what you accuse others of doing in "slandering God"?
Apolegetic gonna apolegetic with the usual good-for-nothing bs bible. Result: bs.
@@knowledgeispower2787 It also says you can beat your slave so long as they.don't die within 3 days and it says you can.own someone as your property and pass them on to your children, so i'm not sure why you are talking about.foreigners or are you trying to mislead.
“You’re not looking at it in context.” Boy have I heard that one a lot.
I found your channel a little while back. Now I have a yearning to stalk all your older content. It doesn’t fall short. You are an amazing person. You ace every positive category. Hope this helps your algorithm. I will probably post on other ones in hopes it helps.
Thanks so much for the support :)
Thank you for that professional analysis of the way the Bible endorses slavery. The have quoted that same passages for years today the “faithful “ only to have the them spew multiple excuses and blame me for missinterpreting the passages.
Awesome! This is such a well presented debate. Thank you for sharing. Live long and prossper.
It's not a debate for that you need two or more opposing factions.
How can any reading, acknowledging these slavery records and can say God is Love😅
The excuse I've heard about the new testament is that it wipes away the old testament, it's a new covenant with god, and Jesus covers it all so we don't have to adhere to all the rules of the old testament... but that implies that god changes. So is he the same yesterday, today, and forever? Did his standards change? Or is he the same wrathful, bloodthirsty master and we're just supposed to ignore it because Jesus?? No thank you.
At the start of this year I attended a church which had a bible study on one of the disciples letters (alas I cannot remember which one). The text to study had been edited so that the first verse, relating to slavery, was conveniently left out of verses to be discussed. The verses being studied just didn't make sense so imagine my surprise when I looked back and the context of the verses was slavery, slave owning and how Jesus life and resurrection didn't really affect this practise. This has led me to this and other youtube presentations; I would never have known about the "slave bible" and so much more in this space but for presentations such as yours and others. I am starting to really question the church, and their motives. I am not fully deconstructed as yet, but it is coming after some 60 years.
Krisy . You are the gift. Of a true God that loves all people of this world and maby other worlds. Keep up the good word . 👌. The true word. Of humanity. 😊
The obvious reason the Bible consistently endorses and never forbids slavery is that the relationship for God’s people is them as His slaves. All He really cares about is absolute obedience, convincing them they are worthless without His grace and punishing them severely whenever the fail to properly worship and serve. Of course most Christian either can’t see this or become happy to be slaves as their purpose in life here and eternally.
In my experience my parents always listen to the verses the pastur cherry picks from the Bible and puts a twisted positive spin on things like what God did to Job or they tell me things like "don't believe everything you hear on the internet ". I suppose the ancient world equivalent of that would be don't believe everything you hear in the Bible.
Although I came from a very devote Catholic upbringing, at some point I began to question the " Man was created in God's image" verse of the Bible. It occurred to me that this God of the Bible suffered from all of the "imperfections" of man. He was tribal, angry, jealous, and impulsive. At this point, I realized this God of the Bible was a "Creation of Man" in his own image rather than the reverse. Therefore, I no longer practice the Christian faith.
Kristi think you again for very informative lecture and information.
Me neither. Thanks for sharing. Thanks for sharing the scriptures.
When Christians attempt to defend slavery in the Bible, I honestly stopped diving directly into verses. I ask them to look at the 1800 years of history around slavery & Christianity. Much harder for them to defend the actions of the church (both catholic & protestant) and the Christian leaders that operated the multitude of slave trades throughout that time period.
Did jesus tell me to do that?? Why do we have to justify for their cruelty. They're people like you who pretends to be a follower of Christ,to get what you want .
@@jianthso do you disagree that the Bible endorses slavery?
@@abbywolf9701 Oh yeah, definitely.
@@jianth then how do you interpret the verses discussed in the video?
@@abbywolf9701 im sorry 😔 i didn't watch the video.i have a problem and I find it hard to listen to someone lying or saying something that's not true.
If you read the Bible,the ancient isrealite were also slaves to the Egyptians,
And there's two different types of system how people enslaved people from other nations.
The word 'slavery' we used Today is much closer to the word 'captivity' used in the Bible.
The slavery system according to the laws of Moses is more like a contract,where poor person works under rich master for certain years.
Since God didn't condemn slavery when confronted with it, that's tacit approval.
Min 1:20 The Southern Baptist Church exists today since 1845, based on the Apostle Paul's several endorsements of humans owning other humans, such as at Ephesians 6:5:
" Slaves be obedient to your masters with all respect...."
Paul also commanded the return of a runaway owned human named Onesimus, to his owner in the book of Philemon, and the Christian scholars and leaders used this to support the Fugitive Slave Law.
Jesus himself accepted the practice of owned humans being, somehow,
" WORTHY " of stripes [ of the whip ] at Luke 12:47-48
Neither Jesus nor Paul ever spoke against the Mosaic Law that allowed the purchase of other humans " from the nations around you.. ", as permanently inheritable property, at Leviticus 25-44-46.
Most Christians don't even know about these scriptures.
Great video, Kristi! I hope you do a video on misogyny. That was one of biggest catalysts that broke my belief in God and started me on my deconstruction journey.
When you realize the glaring fact that Eve was an afterthought after Adam's creation as opposed to being a part of the original plan and blamed the fall of man on her is like she was created to be the "reason" for the fall. Well... yeah. No more reason to believe.
This is an excellent topic for discussion. I'll bet a lot of people haven't heard much about slavery in the Bible. Thank you, Kristi.
Well most christians have not as most cherry pick !
Planning to order some shirts from your merch shop this week, Kristi, but I’ll add some thanks here for another great video. I just have to see what size and color our daughter wants of the “bigotry isn’t cute” t-shirts, as she’s Aro-Ace. I know she’ll love it.
Kristi - I have seen most of your TH-cam content and I think you are one of the most articulate “deconstructionist” content creators out there. You quite obviously research your topics in detail, and your history with Christianity gives you a good grounding in using the Bible to bolster your discussions.
I’m sure you have a list of future episodes that you are researching, but I’d like to request that you add the Book of Job to your list. When I was first questioning my faith and my Christian upbringing as a child, the story of Job haunted me. One of my complaints about religion in general and Christianity in particular was how egregiously unfairly people were treated in order for God to make his points. Despite the kinda-sorta happy ending and the rather extreme lesson regarding having faith under any circumstances, I was haunted by the sheer unfairness and - let’s be honest - evil with which God treated Job. And the backstory seems to be that God did all of this simply because he was provoked by one of his own creations. Job was destroyed as the result of a wager, which says a lot about the emotional maturity of the Christian God. The story always made me think of God as petty and capricious, and of course serves - as do many Bible stories - as an effort to explain why bad things happen to good people. But God’s behavior in regards to Job is so appallingly bad, that even priests (I grew up Catholic) and ministers seem to prefer to sort of ignore the book. Anyway, if you’d consider it for an episode, I think it would make a good one. If you’ve already done a video on him, I apologize and I will look for it.
It occurred to me that 'Job' was God's personal story in which case the unfairness emanates directly from Satan and you should be more sympathetic to Almighty God !
@@nickg5010 Not so. I don’t know what you mean by “personal story,” but God essentially made a bet with the devil that Job would worship him even if he destroyed him. God was so insecure that he allowed a creature that he created and who he knew was evil to manipulate him. He allowed the horrible things done to Job, and kept upping the stakes apparently to keep playing one up with the devil. In the end, God proved a point to the devil, who probably left the conversation chuckling over the fact that he had put one over on God and managed to destroy a good man’s life all in a day’s work. God restored Job to prosperity, but of course didn’t replace the family that he allowed to be murdered. At the very least, God showed shocking indifference to the suffering of one of his people; at the worst, God allowed himself to be played and actively participated in the destruction of a good man. To pin this unfairness onto Satan is to ignore Satan’s creator’s role in this shameful farce.
What I mean by 'personal story' is that God is Job in the story and that some evil came upon Him and that Satan was already well established in the world. Job is believed to be the first Bible story written, so my theory is that God resolved to confront the Devil who was already being worshipped. This led to the Bible being written and the emergence of YHWH. It's my own pet theory. @@cedarwaxwing3509
Yes I want her to add all those books but yes do:
Genesis. Exodus. Leviticus. Numbers. Deuteronomy. Joshua. Judges. Ruth. 1 Samuel. 2 Samuel. 1 Kings
New Testament Books: Matthew. Mark. Luke. John. Acts. Romans. 1 Corinthians. 2 Corinthians. Galatians. Ephesians. Philippians.
@@Fourwindsofsuccess Well, OK, but when I asked that she explore the “Book” of Job, I was really referring to the story, which highlights the pettiness and cruelty of the Christian god. I wasn’t asking for a line-by-line dissection of the entire book. Reread my original post and I think you’ll understand what I was suggesting.
If I was all powerful, all knowing, perfectly moral and had all eternity to create humanity I would have done a better job and inspired a better book. Just saying 🙄
Perhaps that is a topic for another day.
""If I was God, how I would have done creation differently "?
This is what I say. It's all made up
Isn't it amazing how people cherry pick what they like and don't like? They love the part about "man lying with man is an abomination." But the sections just above and below: No shellfish, no mixed fabrics, and no intercourse during menstration-- conveniently all those pesky verses are ignored. Using the bible as justification for American slavery is just as disgusting.
....and there is Ezekiel 23.
I absolutely love your videos! ❤❤❤
Thanks for the video :)
Your videos are awesome !! Thankyou
Most apologists focus on slavery in ancient Israel / Judah. Paul and Jesus lived during Roman slavery, and neither denounced it. Paul, in fact, says this:
"Bond servants, obey in everything those who are your earthly masters, not by way of eye-service, as people-pleasers, but with sincerity of heart, fearing the Lord. Whatever you do, work heartily, as for the Lord and not for men, knowing that from the Lord you will receive the inheritance as your reward."
After you read the following description of Roman slavery, re-read Paul's admonition above.
“Being in a slave marriage did not protect a slave’s body from others. Slaves had no right to refuse their owners’ sexual advances. Seneca the Elder claimed that unchastity was a necessity for slaves (Controversies 4, preface 10), and Plutarch said that husbands honored their wives by using slaves for sex (Marriage Advice 16). Numerous stories, letters, and poetry from the Roman world indicate the expectation of the sexual availability of male and female slaves of all ages, both within private households and as public prostitutes, to their (male) owners.” - Ian Paul / Psephizo
Now I understand why the guys who wrote the Bible would put this into the Holy Book!
Never been a Christianazi, but I totally get your narrative on slavery - 100% acurate!
Not accurate at all LOL just another failed attempt at slandering Christianity. Anti-slavery verses: (Exodus 21: 16 ,Deuteronomy 24: 7, Exodus 21: 26-27, Deuteronomy 23: 15) and (Psalm 118: 8-9, Psalms 146: 3, Revelation 22:9) all say that worship is to God only, not humans or even angels and Galatians 3: 28 says all are equal. She said there were no verses like these 🤣
@@Xinime Exodus 21: 16 is about kidnapping, not slavery. Deut 24:7 literally says: "If a slave has taken refuge with you, do not hand them over to their master." It calls for humane treatment of a fugitive slave, but doesn't really question the very institution of slavery. Deut 26-27 literally says: "An owner who hits a male or female slave in the eye and destroys it must let the slave go free to compensate for the eye." Again, it calls for justice for slaves, but slavery itself is not called into question. The Psalms and Revelation citations are completely irrelevant.
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The Pslams and Revelation citations are completely relevant because she has made other claims outside of slavery that the Bible tells you to be compliant towards people of higher power as if they were Jesus but those verses disprove that narrative.
@@Xinime They don't disprove anything. They show up the Bible as a hodgepodge of contradictions.
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Ah, yes, the classical "contradiction" excuse since you don't want to look into context and cling to your flawed anti-Christian worldview and want to keep coping 😂
Not once but twice Jesus healed Roman slaves but then said nothing about setting them free.
I think Jesus wanted to live long enough to spread the good news. Promoting the end of slavery back then would have cut his ministry very short
@@nosuchthing8 Assuming a humanistic perspective this might make sense. Imagine Jesus the man hoping to advance social justice and moral development but also enough of a realist to understand the limitation of his times and opting instead to plant seeds when direct action was impossible.
An interesting thought experiment but still requires a lot of imagination.
On the other hand, if Jesus understood his mission was to die young for the sins of humankind then confronting Roman slavery would have been no biggie.