I first discovered VH with the 5150 album. So while I do love the Frankie in all it's various forms as the origin point - it's the Kramer style guitar that has my heart. The clean simplicity of it, the stripes and, to me, the iconic 5150 sticker behind the Floyd Rose. The EVH versions of this, with the more traditional headstock don't do it for me - it must have the banana or it isn't right. Of course - it means I'll need to get one of these and stripe it up :)
Just love these videos. Dagan and a Kramer, the enthusiasm and energy is fantastic. I have zero musical talent and can’t even play a Triangle but always watch these as soon as I can. Love the sneaky Crue too.
According to an article on the DiMarzio website about the development of Ed's pickups for his MusicMan guitar. In Ed's main Kramer 5150 that he gave them to compare the pickups with was actually broken but still working and had been that way for years after Ed said he had gotten the high E stuck underneath the pickup cover.
Bought an identical example earlier this year...and I can confirm that EVERYTHING you said here IS TRUE! It has ALL the ingredients necessary to get that '80s EVH tone, for sure! No wonder Eddie was always smiling (even as you were) while wielding this weapon! I've had no issues of any kind (ok, maybe the frets coulda been polished before delivery). It appears that Gibson knew to leave well-enough alone, and "sent" it authentically!
I’ve been saving up all my high school graduation money and money from work for this guitar and damn it’s fucking great I’m a huge Eddie Van Halen fan so it’s perfect
I owned one and let me tell you it was a joy to play unfortunately hit a rough patch and had to depart with mine but one day I will definitely have another
i own one but i just ordered it yesterday so it should be here later today, im so excited i couldent sleep its currently 5:52 and the place i ordered it from opens at 10:00AM so i got a while then they gotta ship it so im just so excited ive watched this video so many times, my favriot kramer artists are probably mick mars and eddie van halen and im not sure but i think george lynch had a kramer at one point.. so there
Dagan, since you're a Kramer fan, which would you recommend from their new line. the 84? the baretta? or the nightswan? on top of that.... would you go with one of those Kramers or with a EVH 5150 guitars or the yellow/black striped EVH? Any thoughts on the michael angelo batio sawtooth with the original floyd for $450 or $360 after 20% off on their app? (i dont think that crazy deal is available anymore)
Not only was I rocking a number of Kramers including a few Barettas in the 80s but also a number of Charvels and other similar shredstick superstrats. There really is something to singlebucker axes. You get more tone because you have more wood. I owned a lot of guitars and I noticed this. I wouldn't split hairs over it. If you play a multibucker as and it sounds great and works for you, stick with it. But I also recommend checking out axes like this Kramer. They are straight ahead rock machines that deliver the goods.
Original Baretta bodies were bookmatched eastern hard rock maple. Pacers were alder, a huge difference. Eddie's first guitars were pacer bodies, but he endorsed the Baretta as " The best guitar you can buy today." in an iconic ad. Not sure he ever used one though. I've had two originals from '84, one was meh and the other like a high frequency bell. Two problems with the originals: The pickup wasn't wax potted so tended to squeal and the scarf joint was too close to where the neck joined the headstock and they used glue which tended to bend the headstocks back a bit. So, they often fretted out at the first fret, including my keeper. Another fun fact, Eddie didn't want anyone copying his tone, so he insisted all Barettas came with rosewood fretboards as opposed to the maple he used. I was working for the national retailer of guitars and in the early '90s was in touch with the Jackson custom shop weekly, so I had a neck made by them to my specs, unique and with a quartersawn maple neck, fretboard and headstock. It's been my #1 guitar for over thirty years. Been to three namm shows, worked in 4 music stores, played since the '70s, for my tastes this really is the the best guitar ever.
@@biohazard8295 You have to make a price/performance decision. Even though many people will say this is bunk, you have to get a good one as well. Guitar tones vary greatly even if they're made from the same tree. To me, and many will agree, nothing matches the metal formulation of the original Floyds. Pickups are another issue. Find something you like that you can afford, and begin your journey. Bon Voyage.
Need to find myself a body of one of these asap for a Gotoh wraparound bridge and Seymour Duncan Black Winter setup. Love it so much with my Les Paul Junior that I need a Kramer 84 now. I hate how much electronic cavity squier/fender Strats have but I wouldn’t be playing guitar without a Strat so this fills my need for a Strat style guitar.
Dagan-it’s clear that there is no recessed route for pulling up too far on the trem... but it kinda seemed like the trem sits above the body at least a little bit for some slight float... is this an accurate statement?
On mine (identical to the one Dagan is playing here; purchased earlier this year) although it's not a routed-in FR, it IS set up to float (running parallel to the body...when you dial-in the trem springs). The ergo's and action are excellent with this set up...no negatives! Early FRs were so thick, you couldn't run 'em this way on installs of the day, as it killed both the ergo's and action...AND shredded the pinkie-side of yr palm!
Hey guys I own the same guitar. Got a question: Do you have your Floyd Rose parallel to the body so you can still pull it a little bit up? Or did you tightened the springs so it's not parallell anymore and it lays on the body? Because I've never had a non-recessed Floyd and I'm still not sure how to set up it correctly. :P
On mine, I'm using all three trem springs (running parallel, not angled), standard .009s and tuned to Eb Standard. The trem is properly "floating", running parallel to the body and holds tune quite well, to boot!
Does this one have neck like the original Baretta, or like the Pacer? I had a Pacer, as a HS graduation gift to myself in 1985, but i always wished i had spent more for the higher-end model. The Baretta neck just had a much nicer feel. Pre-internet, i was under the impression the Pacer had a flatter fretboard and the Baretta was more radiused? I have a Wolfgang now, but i may have to get one of these, to paint with some subtle stripes-like a clear gloss on matte thing (or vice versa).
I don't know about the 84 or Baretta, but in Baretta Special one can desolder one leg of the green cap on the potentiometer to get rid of treble bleed. I personally don't like it in on Baretta Special, it's too brittle sounding so without it it acts like regular volume knob, and it works very well of you are looking for a swell. Hmmm...it even rhymes.
I was about to buy an Ibanez ST iceman and the deal fell through. So I bought a reissue Baretta OMFG best guitar I have ever owned. I did have a Kramer or 2 back in the 80s and I think this is better.. Would love Kramer to do a 5150 or the Diver down finish. And Dagan rocks
@@kurtbader9711 Grover Jackson bought out Wayne in 1978 and didn't start producing complete guitars until 1979. Kramer were building guitars with headstocks that looked like tuning forks in 1979.
@@scottdunn2178 I know the history of the company, Wayne started it, Grover bought it and then sold it to Fender. I own Kramer, Jackson and Charvel guitars. My point was that the first superstrats were made by Charvel, often with outsourced parts like Boogie Bodies which became Warmoth. My sister's boyfriend back in the '70s owned one of the aluminum necked Kramers. Man, that thing was heavier than my '84 Baretta, and was definitely not a superstrat.
@@scottdunn2178 Right, so Wayne built the first superstrats, often with outsourced parts like Boogie bodies which became Warmoth. My sister's boyfriend in the late '70s had an aluminum neck Kramer which was super heavy, heavier than my original '84 Baretta which is all maple. Then Grover sold the company to Fender, the very guitars that were made to be better versions. Darkest day in guitardom ever. BTW, even the early Jacksons and the 80's MIJ ones still used the Charvel logo. He only named the Randy Rhoads guitars Jackson because they were so radical he didn't want to taint the Charvel name if they didn't go over well. Obviously they did in a big way, and Jackson became the official name.
Hey Gibson, I have an idea that's right up your alley. Being a criminal rip off company, you're gonna love it. Take that guitar, The 84, put a tilted pickup in it like the Baretta Vintage, change the name to 1983 Reissue, and slap an Inspired By Gibson price tag on it. $2100.00. Would have to sell 3 of The 84s and Vintage models to make what you would by ripping off a single Re-issue buyer.
dumb question from a non guitarist (pronounced: wanna be drummer) did they have the Beretta Special back in the 80s or just the standard high end Beretta ?
Just ordered one to stripe up in honor to Eddie. The snake sabo Kramer looks AMAZING!!! I love the one pickup one knob concept. Good to see Kramer getting back to it!!!
I first discovered VH with the 5150 album.
So while I do love the Frankie in all it's various forms as the origin point - it's the Kramer style guitar that has my heart.
The clean simplicity of it, the stripes and, to me, the iconic 5150 sticker behind the Floyd Rose.
The EVH versions of this, with the more traditional headstock don't do it for me - it must have the banana or it isn't right.
Of course - it means I'll need to get one of these and stripe it up :)
Yep, banana headstock or nope! lol
Have you done a respray video yet or what?
Would love to watch It...
Dunno if you've seen it but the EVH 5150 Standard has the banana headstock and a killswitch.
Pmsl, Dagan came into that demo like he just walked out onto a stage at wembley stadium in front of 80 thousand people 🤣🤣🎸🎸
If memory serves, Mick Mars (Motley Crue) played some Kramer’s back in the day as well! Sounds awesome! 🔥🔥👊🏽😁🎸
He played some motley Crue songs
He used to have a signature Kramer tele shaped guitar
baretta style
I’m enjoying watching Dagan more than Anderson’s these days. Keep up the good work mate 👍
Just got the blue metallic one and love it!!! Great guitar!! Designed from the man himself in 84!!!
Just love these videos. Dagan and a Kramer, the enthusiasm and energy is fantastic. I have zero musical talent and can’t even play a Triangle but always watch these as soon as I can. Love the sneaky Crue too.
I still have my all original mint condition cream colored 84 Kramer Baretta. LOVE the guitar.
Kramer 84
YOU are my fav Kramer guitarist Dagan :) I'll get a Kramer one day if I ever get to learning to play !
you and me both
I’ve been waiting so long for this review, thank you soooo much guys!!! You rock🤟🏼
I've been watching Kramer guitars lately and I think Dagan just sold me on 1. Just like the one he's playing now....
Just ordered one of these in the same satin white about 5 mins ago, so damn excited and this has me even more hyped!
nice demo!! i'm actually waiting on my Kramer Assault to ship in!
According to an article on the DiMarzio website about the development of Ed's pickups for his MusicMan guitar. In Ed's main Kramer 5150 that he gave them to compare the pickups with was actually broken but still working and had been that way for years after Ed said he had gotten the high E stuck underneath the pickup cover.
You're the best, more original and versatile player and reviewer on TH-cam
you make me wanna get up and play everytime I watch your vids. Never stop being the coolest Dagan
Great playing! The 84 sounds awesome. Very entertaining!
Dagan is my most favorite Kramer Artist!!! We need his full length dive bomb tutorial video ASAP!
My favorite Kramer artist is EVH... but my guitarist, Jet Piston ,(in RIFLE), is known to play a Baretta from time to time so I need to include him!
Bought an identical example earlier this year...and I can confirm that EVERYTHING you said here IS TRUE!
It has ALL the ingredients necessary to get that '80s EVH tone, for sure! No wonder Eddie was always smiling (even as you were) while wielding this weapon! I've had no issues of any kind (ok, maybe the frets coulda been polished before delivery). It appears that Gibson knew to leave well-enough alone, and "sent" it authentically!
I’m convinced! Dagan is God🙏🙏🤘🤘
Mines gonna be here today and I’m so excited, these things are worth every penny !!
Im surprised no one has made a video painting up the 84 with 5150 stripes
I’ve been saving up all my high school graduation money and money from work for this guitar and damn it’s fucking great I’m a huge Eddie Van Halen fan so it’s perfect
I owned one and let me tell you it was a joy to play unfortunately hit a rough patch and had to depart with mine but one day I will definitely have another
i own one but i just ordered it yesterday so it should be here later today, im so excited i couldent sleep its currently 5:52 and the place i ordered it from opens at 10:00AM so i got a while then they gotta ship it so im just so excited ive watched this video so many times, my favriot kramer artists are probably mick mars and eddie van halen and im not sure but i think george lynch had a kramer at one point.. so there
Mick Mars (Motley Crue) Eddie Van Halen (Van Halen) George Lynch (Dokken)(Lynch Mob)(George Lynch)
How’s the guitar after 3 years??
Kramer guitar really screems great job dagan
Dagan, since you're a Kramer fan, which would you recommend from their new line. the 84? the baretta? or the nightswan?
on top of that.... would you go with one of those Kramers or with a EVH 5150 guitars or the yellow/black striped EVH?
Any thoughts on the michael angelo batio sawtooth with the original floyd for $450 or $360 after 20% off on their app? (i dont think that crazy deal is available anymore)
Dagan every time you review a guitar I want them so bad, love the way you play
I’ll be picking one of these up. RIP King Edward.
I need one of these in my life immediately. Outstanding‼
Not only was I rocking a number of Kramers including a few Barettas in the 80s but also a number of Charvels and other similar shredstick superstrats. There really is something to singlebucker axes. You get more tone because you have more wood. I owned a lot of guitars and I noticed this. I wouldn't split hairs over it. If you play a multibucker as and it sounds great and works for you, stick with it. But I also recommend checking out axes like this Kramer. They are straight ahead rock machines that deliver the goods.
Yup the warmest guitar sound ever, did a evh mod on strat with hot rail on bridge it can be played with high gain
great demo as usual Dagan!
was this the Phil x solo from Up Here? 0:43
Original Baretta bodies were bookmatched eastern hard rock maple. Pacers were alder, a huge difference. Eddie's first guitars were pacer bodies, but he endorsed the Baretta as " The best guitar you can buy today." in an iconic ad. Not sure he ever used one though. I've had two originals from '84, one was meh and the other like a high frequency bell. Two problems with the originals: The pickup wasn't wax potted so tended to squeal and the scarf joint was too close to where the neck joined the headstock and they used glue which tended to bend the headstocks back a bit. So, they often fretted out at the first fret, including my keeper. Another fun fact, Eddie didn't want anyone copying his tone, so he insisted all Barettas came with rosewood fretboards as opposed to the maple he used. I was working for the national retailer of guitars and in the early '90s was in touch with the Jackson custom shop weekly, so I had a neck made by them to my specs, unique and with a quartersawn maple neck, fretboard and headstock. It's been my #1 guitar for over thirty years. Been to three namm shows, worked in 4 music stores, played since the '70s, for my tastes this really is the the best guitar ever.
Are these new indonesian kramer worth it? They sound pretty good
@@biohazard8295 You have to make a price/performance decision. Even though many people will say this is bunk, you have to get a good one as well. Guitar tones vary greatly even if they're made from the same tree. To me, and many will agree, nothing matches the metal formulation of the original Floyds. Pickups are another issue. Find something you like that you can afford, and begin your journey. Bon Voyage.
Hey Dagan. Where are these kramer 84s made and also I go to you for all guitar reviews
Great video and nice little tribute to the King.
Oh, mama, this is the one for me. Was always jealous of my high school friend's candy blue Barretta but this has it beat.
Great videos!
Love your playing....tone for dayz❤
nice vid! thank you! great job and performance!
Need to find myself a body of one of these asap for a Gotoh wraparound bridge and Seymour Duncan Black Winter setup. Love it so much with my Les Paul Junior that I need a Kramer 84 now. I hate how much electronic cavity squier/fender Strats have but I wouldn’t be playing guitar without a Strat so this fills my need for a Strat style guitar.
Kip winger looking younger than ever!
Just bought one of these all painted like Eddies, can’t wait to try it out. Looks like the one on the wall behind you.
Great seeing Dagan in his element. He's having too much fun!
Dagan's in 😍
Dagan-it’s clear that there is no recessed route for pulling up too far on the trem... but it kinda seemed like the trem sits above the body at least a little bit for some slight float... is this an accurate statement?
its not set up floating, its decked against the bridge rout and you can only go down if i remember correctly
@@yumemerksu it can't really float without a rout can it?
@@timbuk1126 its not floating
On mine (identical to the one Dagan is playing here; purchased earlier this year) although it's not a routed-in FR, it IS set up to float (running parallel to the body...when you dial-in the trem springs). The ergo's and action are excellent with this set up...no negatives! Early FRs were so thick, you couldn't run 'em this way on installs of the day, as it killed both the ergo's and action...AND shredded the pinkie-side of yr palm!
Hey guys I own the same guitar. Got a question: Do you have your Floyd Rose parallel to the body so you can still pull it a little bit up? Or did you tightened the springs so it's not parallell anymore and it lays on the body? Because I've never had a non-recessed Floyd and I'm still not sure how to set up it correctly. :P
hi you can have it parallel to the body of the guitar, so you get bedt action on the guitar. i hope this helps buddy keep rockin
On mine, I'm using all three trem springs (running parallel, not angled), standard .009s and tuned to Eb Standard. The trem is properly "floating", running parallel to the body and holds tune quite well, to boot!
He whose name can't be spoken, but can be written!!!!!!!!!
Great intro . Where does he get his moves from?
Hey dagan u should review the kramer pariah its very underrated but it sounds very good👍
I bought a 86 focus 1000- same price and esp made it
Definitely getting this guitar next
Does this one have neck like the original Baretta, or like the Pacer? I had a Pacer, as a HS graduation gift to myself in 1985, but i always wished i had spent more for the higher-end model. The Baretta neck just had a much nicer feel. Pre-internet, i was under the impression the Pacer had a flatter fretboard and the Baretta was more radiused? I have a Wolfgang now, but i may have to get one of these, to paint with some subtle stripes-like a clear gloss on matte thing (or vice versa).
Should I get this or the Dave Murray strat?
I don't know about the 84 or Baretta, but in Baretta Special one can desolder one leg of the green cap on the potentiometer to get rid of treble bleed. I personally don't like it in on Baretta Special, it's too brittle sounding so without it it acts like regular volume knob, and it works very well of you are looking for a swell. Hmmm...it even rhymes.
I was about to buy an Ibanez ST iceman and the deal fell through. So I bought a reissue Baretta OMFG best guitar I have ever owned. I did have a Kramer or 2 back in the 80s and I think this is better.. Would love Kramer to do a 5150 or the Diver down finish. And Dagan rocks
"Started it all" ?!
Grover Jackson be like
Hold my beer...
Wayne.
@@kurtbader9711 Grover Jackson bought out Wayne in 1978 and didn't start producing complete guitars until 1979. Kramer were building guitars with headstocks that looked like tuning forks in 1979.
@@scottdunn2178 I know the history of the company, Wayne started it, Grover bought it and then sold it to Fender. I own Kramer, Jackson and Charvel guitars. My point was that the first superstrats were made by Charvel, often with outsourced parts like Boogie Bodies which became Warmoth. My sister's boyfriend back in the '70s owned one of the aluminum necked Kramers. Man, that thing was heavier than my '84 Baretta, and was definitely not a superstrat.
@@scottdunn2178 Right, so Wayne built the first superstrats, often with outsourced parts like Boogie bodies which became Warmoth. My sister's boyfriend in the late '70s had an aluminum neck Kramer which was super heavy, heavier than my original '84 Baretta which is all maple. Then Grover sold the company to Fender, the very guitars that were made to be better versions. Darkest day in guitardom ever. BTW, even the early Jacksons and the 80's MIJ ones still used the Charvel logo. He only named the Randy Rhoads guitars Jackson because they were so radical he didn't want to taint the Charvel name if they didn't go over well. Obviously they did in a big way, and Jackson became the official name.
What a fantastic guitar! Very true that is not versatile but if you can’t play it on this, why would you want to play it at all :)
Ciao, complimenti per il canale, una domanda, il ponte è appoggiato come le Evh o è flottante?
Hey Gibson, I have an idea that's right up your alley. Being a criminal rip off company, you're gonna love it. Take that guitar, The 84, put a tilted pickup in it like the Baretta Vintage, change the name to 1983 Reissue, and slap an Inspired By Gibson price tag on it. $2100.00. Would have to sell 3 of The 84s and Vintage models to make what you would by ripping off a single Re-issue buyer.
So what came first; the 83 reissue or the 84?
This will be my next guitar
Wow I didn't even notice this video was just released
I watch all this videos just to see 5min concerts of Dagan
Oh i loved the part where he started playing jazz
dumb question from a non guitarist (pronounced: wanna be drummer) did they have the Beretta Special back in the 80s or just the standard high end Beretta ?
I have to buy one now
Not exactly on the video but ..are all the EVH Kramer guitars have the same shape "banana" headstock?
I just got the Snake Sabo.
Kramer just came out with the Kramer baretta 83…
if this thing is the one from your newcastle shop, i played the exact one on tuesday!
WILD SLIDE
Just ordered one to stripe up in honor to Eddie. The snake sabo Kramer looks AMAZING!!!
I love the one pickup one knob concept. Good to see Kramer getting back to it!!!
A little late to this party, but what can you tell me about Kramer striker 100st guitar late 80s
I'm sold
I love you and this guitar can you please give me advice we’re to get this guitar in South Africa
Hey I’m from cpt best way is to get it from sweet watee
Dagan is a god masterpiece
Kramer 👌🎸🤘
Wow!! You Rock!!!
¿My favourite?.. Eddie Van Halen.
this is a great guitar for fans of a certain person....
I want one!!!
Having fun
My favourite kramer player is the legendary most underrated guitarist Mick Mars of motley crue
i don’t get how you can get copy righted for playing famous tones, doesn’t like every other channel do that
What are the exact available colours please,
Awesome
I want to get one of these and paint it EVH stripes
the Barretta started it all for me.After that I built them myself.
I have this guitar dont care for the pickups they are ok and i replaced the brass block with a heavy block
I've got a 84 Kramer just like that .for sale..
I want it.
If this had a d-tuner I'd be all over it
The “Diver Down” version of The 84 does come the d-tuner 🎶
Add stripes and it's a EVH
It's literally the 5150 just without the stripes
picked one of these up used for $600
This guitar would be good if I could play it like you😅
Hi
Damn shame Kramer changed the body wood to Alder instead of the much superior sounding maple . Instantly ruled it out for me.
Anyone got one with honest reviews?
If it wasnt for Kramer you wouldnt play guitar? Youve said the same thing about Gibson Les Pauls and Gibson SGs
I think the Baretta sounds better than the 84.