I would disagree anout getting the Hornet or FC 3, and I’d rather echo your later advice. Everyone keeps asking which module they should buy. Whatever you buy is a huge investment in time and effort. You’ll only be motivated enough to follow through the learning curve if it’s a plane you’re passionate about. Whatever it may be. Yes the Hornet is a jack of all trades but if you’re not a huge fan, you won’t invest the required time and effort.
Started with FC3, Su-27 and Mig-29 in particular, bought the F/A-18 because... well, people said its a truly good multi-role. as a beginner with around ~10 hours in FC3 modules combined. I haven't looked back since. I'd say that the F/A-18 is one of the most beginner friendly FF modules out there, it has some complexity, but I don't think its complexity is "learning to fly" the aircraft, its complexity is "complexity of systems interaction and management", including concepts like SOI and SPI, along with Pre-programmable weapons all turning the module into a complex yet highly rewarding system. The tutorials for the F/A-18 are one of the best, and I think there is a huge content material for it to learn from. The F-16 still feels underdeveloped (and the tutorials are not the best), and I haven't given the F-15E too much time yet. I'd say, that due to the fact that each and every aircraft is so unique, there is no reason to start with FC3, and I'd say "go for what is interesting for you", but don't "handicap" yourself by saying "oh I'M not interested" or "oh it's full fidelity / complex"; that's why I held myself back from honestly one of the best experiences I could have (the Hornet). I wasn't really interested in the Hornet to be honest, I simply bought it cause it can... do everything, including Naval stuff. When deciding between the F-15E, the F-16C, and the Hornet, I was looking at the "best bang for buck" (i.e. module capabilities), and the Hornet seemed the best choice. And I have never regretted it. Coupled with a VR headset, this is "peak entertainment" for me, I still remember that one mission in Rise of the Persian Lion Campaign, where you save that ship from 2 helos, then 2 F4s intercept you... I was shaking. Most notably it was this campaign that really made me fall in love with it. So as a beginner, I'd say: Go for the Hornet. Great tutorials, plenty of things to learn, lots of capabilities, I think nothing really comes as close, lots of campaigns, and an overall very easy plane to fly due to Fly-by-wire. The cockpit layout is fantastic. And due to the capabilities, you can really try almost everything you can do in DCS. I especially like it in the ground attack mode simply because I can soften up enemy positions with SEAD/DEAD then go back and drop bombs and mavericks. I know F-16C can do the same, but can they land on or take off from a ship? Can they launch harpoons? Not sure. I've also found the Hornet cockpit to be the most ergonomic / streamlined between the 3 modern US fighters we have in the game. Was I passionate about the Hornet? No. Am I passionate about the Hornet now? YES. TLDR: Do yourself a favour, and listen to the last comment of the maker of the video: register at digitalcombatsimulator.com, and not on Steam, so you can try the modules for free. Don't be like me, who bought 3 full-fidelity modules, to try them, although I will eventually get back to the Eagle and the Viper. Once I had my fun in the Hornet.
I purchased the hornet bc i always loved them as a kid and also i wanted a multirole fighter especially due to the cost of the module. And with it being a Navy jet i can do carrier landings. But yeah it is a huge in time. I really wanted a 2 seater like the F14 and F15E but after learning as much as i have, i tried out others on the 14 day trial and all i could think was "i dont have time to remap and relearn another plane". The Fa18 is a fun plane to start with and you can have fun with it but i wish it could hold a payload like the F15E and that it was a 2 seater.
you should mention also opentrack and AItrack because they are fantastic free program that can be used with a normal webcam and they are very nice in performing, of course track IR is better but it costs 100 or more bucks. Another suggestion is to get yourself pedals if you want to fly helicopter. I find myself stuck with Apache but I found a nice trick: I use Axis wheel(not car wheel) to simulate the rudder in the way that the pedals remain in that position, I don't suggest to use the rudder build in the stick that you can use to turn it like for example the X52 and others have. You forget also that buying directly from Eagle Dynamics gives you the possibility to use the mile reward system that gives you point to use every time you buy a new module
I have seen that the A4E Skyhawk is also available and as a free module. That seems to me like another great place to start given it's versatility of mission types and simpl-ER controls, given it's age (analog and just a lot less to manage in the cockpit). I don't know if all that translates into easier to fly but it seems like it might be a solid contender against the Hornet given it's free and probably easier to learn for us beginners.
When I first started DCS, I started with the F-16 as a first module and was told that I would be too overwhelmed with a full fidelity aircraft as my first. They were all wrong, the F-16 was the best first aircraft in DCS (In my opinion), I had learned it fully in about 4 - 6 months and it was a breeze, a very fun aircraft and it is still my most used aircraft.
@@ImNotQualifiedToSayThisBut when I say months I mean roughly 100-150 hours of flight time. And to clarify, you can get into dcs if you have a lot of free time or if you don’t (granted you will have a lot better of a time if you put more hours in)
I think autostart is poissin in full fidelity aircraft, at least if you want to really learn it rather than just shoot things quickly. If you know what you're doing, it's a lot faster than autostart (at least in the modules I've flown (F16, F18, F14)) mostly due to the alignment process. I argue, learning to turn on everything by yourself gives you the opportunity to learn the cockpit layout and functionality intimately right from the start and also how the systems are designed to work and so on. Now, of course this is primarily true for the rather modern modules. For example, I'd say the ka-50's startup isn't something that elevates your understanding of your aircraft by a lot (compared to the F14 or F16)
I've been playing DCS for about 6 months. I got into it from OperatorDrewski and Enigma. I wanted to play the cold war server. I bought the F-5 for my first play with a Saitek HOTAS. I have learned a ton and I highly recommend to new players getting a plane they love for their first. However if they still don't know I recommend FC3. You get the most bang for your buck. I find that the older planes usually have a little bit less to learn for new player and Enigma's Cold War server always has a ton of action for a new player looking to get their hands dirty I'm currently teaching one of my friends how to fly the F-5 and he's having a ton of frustrating fun. Thanks for the information. Happy flying!
Hosas works too. I have dual VKB gladiators for Star Citizen and the VKB has a dry clutch that can be set to prevent the left stick (throttle) from returning to center.
My advice to friends who aren't sim enthusiasts but looking to get into DCS is always, HOTAS, head tracker and the A10A (or FC3). It's such a simple aircraft to learn (although it didn't feel so simple as a noob) that sets the beginner up well for all other US planes, it's easy to fly, carries a heavy payload so can give the satisfaction of lots of kills per sortie, and it's slow which allows time to think which is critical when learning! The F15C would be my next suggestion to learn the AA combat manuvres. Then consider the hifi planes. I know some have jumped straight to hi fi planes from day one but you guys aren't human 😂
I believe the first thing you need to understand before actually deciding to take the plunge, is to understand that with DCS you can go as close to MilSim as possible; without actually doing it in real life. Where as the low fidelity aircraft like the F-15 or Mig - 29 is more difficult to fly in DCS (as compared to other arcade games out there), it is nowhere as tough as learning to fly a full-fidelity aircraft like the F-14 or F-16. Even primary training planes like the YAK-52 requires you to understand the basics aeronautic principals and be willing to spend of lot of time learning the basics before going into anything tough like dogfighting.
@@g-locmedia Same here I got the FC3 back in 2012/13, I didn't want to try the A-10C - the only available full fidelity module back then. I had to get the T-45C mod to start with a virtual training squadron and never looked back.
@@g-locmedia hahaha, nothing wrong with ground pounders, if that's your thing, the thing is, now there are a lot of people out there willing to take you through your first steps. I wish I knew that when I started.
Thank you so much for this video. I haven't yet made the plunge into it. I don't even have any of my gear yet. I'm still weighing the whole multi-screen vs VR issue. This is perhaps the best list of `Things to Know BEFORE' I have seen.
I have a video on my thoughts on VR. Have a watch. If you do go VR just make sure you get a good graphics card. I’m still a triple screen fan for the foreseeable future.
@@g-locmedia Thanks. I am actually still leaning away from VR as I just like to be able to see my controls and just everything else including my own hands. Also watching others struggle to turn a knob or something in VR is also off-putting. Maybe it's not that bad but that's where I am on that right now anyway. I will check out more of your videos for sure.
I majorly violated the idea of not buying too much. I bought all the modules that is included in the 50% off discount for first time buyers in one go.... They got me😢 dont regret it but they definitely got me
I'm trying to get to DCS again, to be honest, getting the planes in the sky and flying and landing, taxi etc isn't too hard when you come from Microsoft Flight Simulator or X Plane, even navigating can be easier. The harder thing about it is the dodge fight and the complexity of the systems it has.
Gotta prepare for this in case war thunder fails. I already play (AND LOVE) il-2 1946 so i do have a bit of experience with planes but nothing too special. I dont have a rudder pedal but i guess ill come up with something. And i still have a hotas so... Thanks for the tips!
1: Totally agree 2: Totally disagree 3: Disagree 4: Agree (however there are easy training servers) 5: Meh, I learned more from YT. 6: Agree 7: I think I agree 8: Agree 9: Agree, but forget the LowFid 10: Agree, and use the open beta DCS is all about making it as real as possible. Therefore, forget all the LowFid planes (the FC3 package), and don't use auto-start. Online servers, like the Grim Reapers' Stoneburner are ideal for beginners. There are virtually no threats, enough targets and online people (discord !) who will answer questions or even make a point in teaching you stuff.
I get what your saying here but what I’d like to see is more people having the confidence to give it a shot and I think the low fidelity plane is a great entry. Enough to give them the bug for flying and from there it’s up to them which path they take.
one thing i dont get about the trackir system is that if you for example loock to the left dont you like look awy from the screen and cant see it anymore if you only have one monitor can somebody explain that to me
You can set the sensitivity up so that you can just turn your head slightly so you can still keep your eyes on the screen. Its actually quite intuitive
@@jimmace8396 sorry yea it’s best to download it from the website as that will give you the option of testing out different jets. Brain fart mate. Sorry.
Excellent vid and well said for most part. Its easy to see why people should start with the freebie aircraft as you say. I am a relative newbie but sometimes overwhelmed by the poor documentation and narrative in the training missions. And this is why I write stupid posts to our friends on the blog sites. "Press the space bar to continue " - which it does after about 5 minutes. Why cant it flip straight to the taxiiing when you press it 5 times. ( as you say Auto start must be a good thing ,but I do like to do things by the book ,from scratch.Then theres the hoops it wants you to fly through before carrying on with the training - not funny. The docs are far too long and some help-vids are low-res rubbish or equally annoying voices, loud music or horrible accents, Chucks guides dont even do the SU25T freebie either can you imagine that the aircraft that comes with the freebie game. Oh well could rant on for a while yet but I have to get back to the game, its only 3am.
So hotas is basically necessary for enjoyment and while a vr headset is not super necessary if u already have a vr headset it definitely should be used.
@@g-locmedia i think for the most serious fun form of play it is but a gamepad is much better then keyboard and is more then enough for simple enjoyment
I disagree with playing the missions for weeks or months. Hop in to a PVE server like 4YE or Through the Inferno with other players who are also there to practice and just have fun, which means they'll be more than happy to talk with you in chat and help shorten the learning curve with better explantions than what ED or a 20 minute "Fast" video will do. DCS is alot easier when you have a human being teaching you. (which is a series you should think about, those "1-minute" tutorials always helped as most players are using their phones while flying to learn.)
As for No 2: If you get multiple modules, make sure the keybinds are the same. Firing is the same, locking on is the same etc. So that if you switch plane, radar control, weapon control, trim etc is always the same buttons on your HOTAS. This has helped me a lot. Also never ever follow Grim Reapers. They will not teach you anything useful.
i copy keybinds and map them similar to the real aircraft (different keybinds for each module) personally i can memorize them perfectly fine, and it's much easier to map with it.
Honestly I got the Steam version 😛 That said, I usually know what modules I want to get after much scrutiny and make sure I purchase during the sales period.
There are a few modules that are not available in the steam version too. Like the Super-carrier. I think the benefit of steam might just be the file handling and install.L set and forget. There’s going to be some big sales just around the corner. I’m waiting for Black Friday.
go get the open beta version from the DCS site. you can convert your steam version to DCS version not vice versa. what is the Pros: - planes are way cheaper in the DCS site because they will not pay steam if user buy from steam page. (on sales) - Beta version always get ahead on the beta version of DCS rather than steam (debatable) Cons: - if you want to add DCS from the beta site. you need to add it as non steam library.
@emil heraña that's factually inaccurate. Planes are not way cheaper buying via DCS over Steam. Currently the only Module unavailable on Steam is the F-15 pre order. You don't need to be using the ED version to access the open Beta either that is available via the betas tab in Steam. Personally I like having all my games accessible in one place. I've debated switching to Standalone many times but Steam works for me.
>avoid buying multiple modules mfw I bought all of them and only know how to use the A10 and the KA50 so far he's right fellas lmao I do really disagree with the first point though, people are EXTREMELY good with controller if you set it up correctly. See Tuuvas for example, guy is one of the best heli pilots on grayflag and is damn good in an A10 too
hi i saw your post from the facebook page of dcs group. i really don`t like someone is saying that you cant really play DCS with Controller and keyboard + mouse. that is a high lie. i have many friends all over the country which plays DCS for years with those setup. we are from a 3rd world country and the price of hotas is no joke. if you learn enough and i say its around 2 weeks. you can master flying with the controller. hell. even i started from Xbox controller for 2 months before i decided investing for HOTAS because i also playing FS2020. as for the full fidelity module. f18 is the most highly recommended because its the easiest module because on how high tech it is. it is really not hard to learn the f18. it is hard to master thou. next is the tips for trainings. dont go combat missions for training. go to the actual "training" that ED have from their module. that is the newbie tip learn the controls before going to any combat mission. your title said starting with DCS world not tips before entering MP servers. i do apologize if i sound so salty but there are many tips for new DCS world players here in youtube but yours does not just said the obvious, but you didnt have a like updated things to say. like which channel to follow for certain things, when and what is the best beginner friendly bind profiles you can see. please see this as constructive criticism. i just want to see a 2022 version of tips for beginners when starting with DCS i hope i will see more of your videos and a thumbs up and subscribe to you .
Hello mate. It’s always great to hear other opinions and see things from someone else’s perspective. You opened my eyes a little there. The video was more about the things I wished I had knew as a beginner.
I know some people that still play games with a keyboard and mouse, hell, I started with those on MSFS 98. However, I soon got myself a 12 dollar 2 axis joystick without any spare axises for throttles, f2 and f3 keys were good enough. By the time I got to play MSFS 2000, I'd already decided to save up and get a Basic Microsoft Sidewinder joystick and the rest is history. The amount of time and investment you make in your hobby is sometimes directly proportional to your interest.
The point about dont use a controller is rubbish. If you dont want to waste a ton of money before you know you like the game, controller is a good choice and works well after doing some re-mapping. Might take you a half-hour and then you're good to jump in.
I tried keyboard and mouse the 1st day I downloaded the game and after 6 hours of trying to figure it out, I gave up and ordered the Thrustmaster Warthog
Great Vids and good advice. But as an added bonus i'd not get Track IR but a much cheaper alternative. The Track IR software and equipment are way overpriced for what it is. The track clip that is used for putting on your headset to follow your movements are very fragile. A great alternative is Delan clip from delanengineering.com it is only £70 for full kit and there are other free and very accurate facetracking options. Headtracking is an utmost essential for DCS but Track IR is just overpriced these days if you have the cash to go that way fine but i think your buying the name not a better product.
@@g-locmedia it's just a lot easier to pick up and play DCS whenever i want. All i really need is a gaming laptop and a simple Xbox or Playstation controller. Plus, when it's set up correctly, you'll never have to use any other device while playing. Mouse, head tracker, rudder pedals, keyboard? None of that is necessary once you're in the cockpit.
I TOTALLY FORGOT YOU CAN TRY ANY DCS MODULE FOR FREE USING THEIR TRIALS PROGRAM FOR TWO WEEKS! AND THE COOL DOWN FOR EACH MODULE (to try for free again) IS ABOUT A MONTH IGNORE THIS GUY.
granted, i came from 10k+ hours in Warthunder, but once i had my all the necessary buttons mapped, i did one mission editor to practice locking/firing ect, and then i was off to GS server, getting kills as a mountain flanker. you dont need weeks or months of practice to understand all the basics and start putting them to use in pvp, so you can evolve an improve your gameplay through experience agaisnt actual players/people better than you. plus its much more satisfying/gratifying to know you shot down another player. even when i learned the f16, ive never seen a single chucks guide, i watched a few short vids on whatever it was i had a question about.
If youre planning on multiplayer. A2A = F16, is easy win once you learn. Multirole = F/A18, so much options. And carriers ops, much fun. Hardcore Multirole = F15E S4+, new release still wip, currently tough to compete with but potential is huge. A2G = A10C2, Brtttt. Plus when you get good you can upset a lot of fighter jocks. Nostalgia = F14 and Mirage, really tough to compete with F16s but once youre a beast it is really rewarding. Everything = FC3, great package, covers all elements easier to pick up and play due limted simulation of every system, but the combat is just as challenging so learning curve just as steep. No clicky switches in cockpit, everthing needs assigning to hotas and keyboard. Troll jets = Mig21, F5, Viggen, great in depth learning platforms, get gud in these and upset fighter jocks. Really tough to be that guy though but when it clicks you realise the secret. Attack Helos = Apache or Ka50, both amazing. Troll helo = Gazelle or Mi24, A2A missiles. Cargo helos = Mi8 or Huey, great mp servers around to help assist your teams logistics and base capture. Super Nostalgia = Mig15 and F86, less servers but amazing fun. WW2 = take your flavour, all amazing. Freebie = Su25T, yes its free with DCS, is FC3 standard. Can do anything A2G and is a master fighter jock upsetter. Kill them with R73 or vikhrs, then annihalte their base. Free fun. A4E is also free but not official.
Dislike right from the start for the first tip about not using a keyboard+mouse or a controller. For "getting most of" yes, sure I do agree, but that's not the point of the video, not a tip for the beginners! There was guy in a Growling Sidewinder's (or other popular dude) video doing a nearly perfect formation flying and a nice easy take off and landing.. on a laptop. ON A LAPTOP, using TRACKPAD! And other example, here I am having already ~30h, learning FA-18 using a PS4 pad and having a great time! Oh yeah, and that's during the trial period, wich is mentioned in very last seconds of the video! for a beginners! damn I got nerves watching this. First tip is an absolute bullsh*t and mentioning the trials on the very end is as well. Hey Getting Started Beginners! wanting to learn the aircraft and have the pleasure of knowing ins and outs of its systems and fly a chill missions, a pad will be more than enough! And once the trial period is done, there hopefully will be enough experience to know if you want to invest in a module and in a hotas.
I would disagree anout getting the Hornet or FC 3, and I’d rather echo your later advice. Everyone keeps asking which module they should buy. Whatever you buy is a huge investment in time and effort. You’ll only be motivated enough to follow through the learning curve if it’s a plane you’re passionate about. Whatever it may be. Yes the Hornet is a jack of all trades but if you’re not a huge fan, you won’t invest the required time and effort.
Yea I agree with that but I still feel that Flaming Cliffs 3 is what I would recommend If you didn’t have a particular plane that you’d love to learn.
Started with FC3, Su-27 and Mig-29 in particular, bought the F/A-18 because... well, people said its a truly good multi-role. as a beginner with around ~10 hours in FC3 modules combined. I haven't looked back since. I'd say that the F/A-18 is one of the most beginner friendly FF modules out there, it has some complexity, but I don't think its complexity is "learning to fly" the aircraft, its complexity is "complexity of systems interaction and management", including concepts like SOI and SPI, along with Pre-programmable weapons all turning the module into a complex yet highly rewarding system.
The tutorials for the F/A-18 are one of the best, and I think there is a huge content material for it to learn from.
The F-16 still feels underdeveloped (and the tutorials are not the best), and I haven't given the F-15E too much time yet.
I'd say, that due to the fact that each and every aircraft is so unique, there is no reason to start with FC3, and I'd say "go for what is interesting for you", but don't "handicap" yourself by saying "oh I'M not interested" or "oh it's full fidelity / complex"; that's why I held myself back from honestly one of the best experiences I could have (the Hornet). I wasn't really interested in the Hornet to be honest, I simply bought it cause it can... do everything, including Naval stuff. When deciding between the F-15E, the F-16C, and the Hornet, I was looking at the "best bang for buck" (i.e. module capabilities), and the Hornet seemed the best choice. And I have never regretted it. Coupled with a VR headset, this is "peak entertainment" for me, I still remember that one mission in Rise of the Persian Lion Campaign, where you save that ship from 2 helos, then 2 F4s intercept you... I was shaking. Most notably it was this campaign that really made me fall in love with it.
So as a beginner, I'd say: Go for the Hornet. Great tutorials, plenty of things to learn, lots of capabilities, I think nothing really comes as close, lots of campaigns, and an overall very easy plane to fly due to Fly-by-wire. The cockpit layout is fantastic. And due to the capabilities, you can really try almost everything you can do in DCS. I especially like it in the ground attack mode simply because I can soften up enemy positions with SEAD/DEAD then go back and drop bombs and mavericks. I know F-16C can do the same, but can they land on or take off from a ship? Can they launch harpoons? Not sure. I've also found the Hornet cockpit to be the most ergonomic / streamlined between the 3 modern US fighters we have in the game.
Was I passionate about the Hornet? No. Am I passionate about the Hornet now? YES.
TLDR: Do yourself a favour, and listen to the last comment of the maker of the video: register at digitalcombatsimulator.com, and not on Steam, so you can try the modules for free. Don't be like me, who bought 3 full-fidelity modules, to try them, although I will eventually get back to the Eagle and the Viper. Once I had my fun in the Hornet.
Besides, i feel like the hornet is one of the most shot down aircraft on the GS open conflict server xdd
I purchased the hornet bc i always loved them as a kid and also i wanted a multirole fighter especially due to the cost of the module. And with it being a Navy jet i can do carrier landings. But yeah it is a huge in time. I really wanted a 2 seater like the F14 and F15E but after learning as much as i have, i tried out others on the 14 day trial and all i could think was "i dont have time to remap and relearn another plane". The Fa18 is a fun plane to start with and you can have fun with it but i wish it could hold a payload like the F15E and that it was a 2 seater.
you should mention also opentrack and AItrack because they are fantastic free program that can be used with a normal webcam and they are very nice in performing, of course track IR is better but it costs 100 or more bucks. Another suggestion is to get yourself pedals if you want to fly helicopter. I find myself stuck with Apache but I found a nice trick: I use Axis wheel(not car wheel) to simulate the rudder in the way that the pedals remain in that position, I don't suggest to use the rudder build in the stick that you can use to turn it like for example the X52 and others have. You forget also that buying directly from Eagle Dynamics gives you the possibility to use the mile reward system that gives you point to use every time you buy a new module
I have seen that the A4E Skyhawk is also available and as a free module. That seems to me like another great place to start given it's versatility of mission types and simpl-ER controls, given it's age (analog and just a lot less to manage in the cockpit). I don't know if all that translates into easier to fly but it seems like it might be a solid contender against the Hornet given it's free and probably easier to learn for us beginners.
controller is CRIMINALLY under rated for dcs, i recommend tuuvas's controller settings.
When I first started DCS, I started with the F-16 as a first module and was told that I would be too overwhelmed with a full fidelity aircraft as my first. They were all wrong, the F-16 was the best first aircraft in DCS (In my opinion), I had learned it fully in about 4 - 6 months and it was a breeze, a very fun aircraft and it is still my most used aircraft.
Yea I think it goes back to learning the one your interested in most. Keeps you coming back.
When you say 4-6 months, how much time did you actually put in (in hours?). Can I get into DCS with not a lot of freetime?
@@ImNotQualifiedToSayThisBut when I say months I mean roughly 100-150 hours of flight time. And to clarify, you can get into dcs if you have a lot of free time or if you don’t (granted you will have a lot better of a time if you put more hours in)
I think autostart is poissin in full fidelity aircraft, at least if you want to really learn it rather than just shoot things quickly. If you know what you're doing, it's a lot faster than autostart (at least in the modules I've flown (F16, F18, F14)) mostly due to the alignment process. I argue, learning to turn on everything by yourself gives you the opportunity to learn the cockpit layout and functionality intimately right from the start and also how the systems are designed to work and so on. Now, of course this is primarily true for the rather modern modules. For example, I'd say the ka-50's startup isn't something that elevates your understanding of your aircraft by a lot (compared to the F14 or F16)
A nice take and valuable angle on using the auto start feature.
I've been playing DCS for about 6 months. I got into it from OperatorDrewski and Enigma. I wanted to play the cold war server. I bought the F-5 for my first play with a Saitek HOTAS. I have learned a ton and I highly recommend to new players getting a plane they love for their first. However if they still don't know I recommend FC3. You get the most bang for your buck. I find that the older planes usually have a little bit less to learn for new player and Enigma's Cold War server always has a ton of action for a new player looking to get their hands dirty I'm currently teaching one of my friends how to fly the F-5 and he's having a ton of frustrating fun. Thanks for the information. Happy flying!
I love the term “frustrating fun” lol. That’s what keeps me coming back to DCS.
Hosas works too. I have dual VKB gladiators for Star Citizen and the VKB has a dry clutch that can be set to prevent the left stick (throttle) from returning to center.
My advice to friends who aren't sim enthusiasts but looking to get into DCS is always, HOTAS, head tracker and the A10A (or FC3). It's such a simple aircraft to learn (although it didn't feel so simple as a noob) that sets the beginner up well for all other US planes, it's easy to fly, carries a heavy payload so can give the satisfaction of lots of kills per sortie, and it's slow which allows time to think which is critical when learning!
The F15C would be my next suggestion to learn the AA combat manuvres.
Then consider the hifi planes.
I know some have jumped straight to hi fi planes from day one but you guys aren't human 😂
Thanks for sharing. Great advice.
I believe the first thing you need to understand before actually deciding to take the plunge, is to understand that with DCS you can go as close to MilSim as possible; without actually doing it in real life. Where as the low fidelity aircraft like the F-15 or Mig - 29 is more difficult to fly in DCS (as compared to other arcade games out there), it is nowhere as tough as learning to fly a full-fidelity aircraft like the F-14 or F-16. Even primary training planes like the YAK-52 requires you to understand the basics aeronautic principals and be willing to spend of lot of time learning the basics before going into anything tough like dogfighting.
The F-15 was where I started after getting frustrated with the F-18. Now I’m an F-18 fan boy.
@@g-locmedia Same here I got the FC3 back in 2012/13, I didn't want to try the A-10C - the only available full fidelity module back then. I had to get the T-45C mod to start with a virtual training squadron and never looked back.
@@Flyingzypher yea I’m not a fan of the Warthog either. I mean it’s a tank with wings but I prefer dogfighting.
@@g-locmedia hahaha, nothing wrong with ground pounders, if that's your thing, the thing is, now there are a lot of people out there willing to take you through your first steps. I wish I knew that when I started.
@@Flyingzypher lol. I’ve never heard it called a ground pounder before. I’ll be saving that one. Thanks.
Thank you so much for this video. I haven't yet made the plunge into it. I don't even have any of my gear yet. I'm still weighing the whole multi-screen vs VR issue. This is perhaps the best list of `Things to Know BEFORE' I have seen.
I have a video on my thoughts on VR. Have a watch. If you do go VR just make sure you get a good graphics card. I’m still a triple screen fan for the foreseeable future.
@@g-locmedia
Thanks. I am actually still leaning away from VR as I just like to be able to see my controls and just everything else including my own hands. Also watching others struggle to turn a knob or something in VR is also off-putting. Maybe it's not that bad but that's where I am on that right now anyway. I will check out more of your videos for sure.
Great video and sound advice!
Thank you mate.
Great list! Thanks for sharing.
No worries. Just a few of the things I wished I had known when I started.
I majorly violated the idea of not buying too much. I bought all the modules that is included in the 50% off discount for first time buyers in one go.... They got me😢 dont regret it but they definitely got me
Great advice!
I'm trying to get to DCS again, to be honest, getting the planes in the sky and flying and landing, taxi etc isn't too hard when you come from Microsoft Flight Simulator or X Plane, even navigating can be easier. The harder thing about it is the dodge fight and the complexity of the systems it has.
Yes the weapons systems a radar are the stumbling block for most including me
first plane for me is the A10 II talk about long start up lol
I'm an autostart man and not ashamed to admit it.
Nothing wrong with that once I put some time Into DCS I'm sure I will be as well
Thanks for the tips 😊
Great to the point info!!! Thank you!!!
Glad it was helpful!
Gotta prepare for this in case war thunder fails.
I already play (AND LOVE) il-2 1946 so i do have a bit of experience with planes but nothing too special. I dont have a rudder pedal but i guess ill come up with something. And i still have a hotas so...
Thanks for the tips!
Quite a few sticks on the market have stick twist for rudder. Works well too.
1: Totally agree
2: Totally disagree
3: Disagree
4: Agree (however there are easy training servers)
5: Meh, I learned more from YT.
6: Agree
7: I think I agree
8: Agree
9: Agree, but forget the LowFid
10: Agree, and use the open beta
DCS is all about making it as real as possible. Therefore, forget all the LowFid planes (the FC3 package), and don't use auto-start. Online servers, like the Grim Reapers' Stoneburner are ideal for beginners. There are virtually no threats, enough targets and online people (discord !) who will answer questions or even make a point in teaching you stuff.
I get what your saying here but what I’d like to see is more people having the confidence to give it a shot and I think the low fidelity plane is a great entry. Enough to give them the bug for flying and from there it’s up to them which path they take.
one thing i dont get about the trackir system is that if you for example loock to the left dont you like look awy from the screen and cant see it anymore if you only have one monitor can somebody explain that to me
You can set the sensitivity up so that you can just turn your head slightly so you can still keep your eyes on the screen. Its actually quite intuitive
Can you play this game on PC? I can't find it
Yea it’s called Digital Combat Simulator
Check steam
I thought you said not to get it from Steam?
@@jimmace8396 sorry yea it’s best to download it from the website as that will give you the option of testing out different jets. Brain fart mate. Sorry.
@@jimmace8396 digitalcombatsimulator.com
Noone on you tube has a general guide on where to put the functions on a hotas,the reason why many give up in the first place.😢
So, if I got DCS on steam, and want to move to the direct link download, will i lose my a/c that i bought through steam?
No you can transfer your stuff to the standalone version just not the other way around
Excellent vid and well said for most part. Its easy to see why people should start with the freebie aircraft as you say. I am a relative newbie but sometimes overwhelmed by the poor documentation and narrative in the training missions. And this is why I write stupid posts to our friends on the blog sites.
"Press the space bar to continue " - which it does after about 5 minutes. Why cant it flip straight to the taxiiing when you press it 5 times. ( as you say Auto start must be a good thing ,but I do like to do things by the book ,from scratch.Then theres the hoops it wants you to fly through before carrying on with the training - not funny. The docs are far too long and some help-vids are low-res rubbish or equally annoying voices, loud music or horrible accents, Chucks guides dont even do the SU25T freebie either can you imagine that the aircraft that comes with the freebie game. Oh well could rant on for a while yet but I have to get back to the game, its only 3am.
I feel you on the press space bar to continue. Lol. Yea the full start up procedures are great for the few that want to go deep with the sim.
Super 👍 Thank you
So hotas is basically necessary for enjoyment and while a vr headset is not super necessary if u already have a vr headset it definitely should be used.
People do play without a HOTAS and enjoy it but I think it's needed.
@@g-locmedia i think for the most serious fun form of play it is but a gamepad is much better then keyboard and is more then enough for simple enjoyment
I disagree with playing the missions for weeks or months. Hop in to a PVE server like 4YE or Through the Inferno with other players who are also there to practice and just have fun, which means they'll be more than happy to talk with you in chat and help shorten the learning curve with better explantions than what ED or a 20 minute "Fast" video will do. DCS is alot easier when you have a human being teaching you. (which is a series you should think about, those "1-minute" tutorials always helped as most players are using their phones while flying to learn.)
I think everyone who wants to start DCS should be introduced to one part of DCS many are not aware of, DCS World Events! 😉
As for No 2: If you get multiple modules, make sure the keybinds are the same. Firing is the same, locking on is the same etc. So that if you switch plane, radar control, weapon control, trim etc is always the same buttons on your HOTAS. This has helped me a lot.
Also never ever follow Grim Reapers. They will not teach you anything useful.
Yes that is a great tip if your flying multiple modules. What makes you not rate Grim Reapers?
i copy keybinds and map them similar to the real aircraft (different keybinds for each module)
personally i can memorize them perfectly fine, and it's much easier to map with it.
Honestly I got the Steam version 😛
That said, I usually know what modules I want to get after much scrutiny and make sure I purchase during the sales period.
There are a few modules that are not available in the steam version too. Like the Super-carrier. I think the benefit of steam might just be the file handling and install.L set and forget. There’s going to be some big sales just around the corner. I’m waiting for Black Friday.
@@g-locmedia Oh no I got the Supercarrier from Steam
go get the open beta version from the DCS site. you can convert your steam version to DCS version not vice versa.
what is the Pros:
- planes are way cheaper in the DCS site because they will not pay steam if user buy from steam page. (on sales)
- Beta version always get ahead on the beta version of DCS rather than steam (debatable)
Cons:
- if you want to add DCS from the beta site. you need to add it as non steam library.
@emil heraña that's factually inaccurate. Planes are not way cheaper buying via DCS over
Steam. Currently the only Module unavailable on Steam is the F-15 pre order.
You don't need to be using the ED version to access the open Beta either that is available via the betas tab in Steam.
Personally I like having all my games accessible in one place. I've debated switching to Standalone many times but Steam works for me.
Yep, DCS is a serious animal to tame
It certainly is.
>avoid buying multiple modules
mfw I bought all of them and only know how to use the A10 and the KA50 so far
he's right fellas lmao
I do really disagree with the first point though, people are EXTREMELY good with controller if you set it up correctly. See Tuuvas for example, guy is one of the best heli pilots on grayflag and is damn good in an A10 too
hi i saw your post from the facebook page of dcs group. i really don`t like someone is saying that you cant really play DCS with Controller and keyboard + mouse. that is a high lie. i have many friends all over the country which plays DCS for years with those setup. we are from a 3rd world country and the price of hotas is no joke. if you learn enough and i say its around 2 weeks. you can master flying with the controller. hell. even i started from Xbox controller for 2 months before i decided investing for HOTAS because i also playing FS2020.
as for the full fidelity module. f18 is the most highly recommended because its the easiest module because on how high tech it is. it is really not hard to learn the f18. it is hard to master thou.
next is the tips for trainings. dont go combat missions for training. go to the actual "training" that ED have from their module. that is the newbie tip learn the controls before going to any combat mission. your title said starting with DCS world not tips before entering MP servers.
i do apologize if i sound so salty but there are many tips for new DCS world players here in youtube but yours does not just said the obvious, but you didnt have a like updated things to say.
like which channel to follow for certain things, when and what is the best beginner friendly bind profiles you can see.
please see this as constructive criticism. i just want to see a 2022 version of tips for beginners when starting with DCS i hope i will see more of your videos and a thumbs up and subscribe to you .
Hello mate. It’s always great to hear other opinions and see things from someone else’s perspective. You opened my eyes a little there. The video was more about the things I wished I had knew as a beginner.
I know some people that still play games with a keyboard and mouse, hell, I started with those on MSFS 98. However, I soon got myself a 12 dollar 2 axis joystick without any spare axises for throttles, f2 and f3 keys were good enough. By the time I got to play MSFS 2000, I'd already decided to save up and get a Basic Microsoft Sidewinder joystick and the rest is history. The amount of time and investment you make in your hobby is sometimes directly proportional to your interest.
@@Flyingzypher yes I do totally agree with where your coming from there.
The point about dont use a controller is rubbish. If you dont want to waste a ton of money before you know you like the game, controller is a good choice and works well after doing some re-mapping. Might take you a half-hour and then you're good to jump in.
I agree with you to a point but how do you get a real feel for the sim without a Hotas?
@@g-locmedia some people dont need a hotas for the "real feel"
an xbox controller can work its alot harder and not worth the time for me but its possible im doing it until i get a stick
I tried keyboard and mouse the 1st day I downloaded the game and after 6 hours of trying to figure it out, I gave up and ordered the Thrustmaster Warthog
A great HOTAS.
Good list but in #6 you forgot to mention "G-LOC MEDIA" ;)
Lol. Unfortunately the depth of information I can bring to flight sim isn’t up there yet with those guys.
i could of watched this earlier i already got it off steam 💀😭🙏
Is DCS a Digital Combat Simulator or is it a Digital Air Combat Simulator?
Great Vids and good advice. But as an added bonus i'd not get Track IR but a much cheaper alternative. The Track IR software and equipment are way overpriced for what it is. The track clip that is used for putting on your headset to follow your movements are very fragile. A great alternative is Delan clip from delanengineering.com it is only £70 for full kit and there are other free and very accurate facetracking options.
Headtracking is an utmost essential for DCS but Track IR is just overpriced these days if you have the cash to go that way fine but i think your buying the name not a better product.
Nice one mate I’m sure people will appreciate that. The only one I have experience with is Track IR.
"one: Do not try to play with a keyboard and mouse"
Me: "Agreed"
"... or an xbox controller"
Me: "Sir, I declare WAR!"
You play with an Xbox controller?
@@g-locmedia yup, it's my preferred way to play despite having a full VirPil setup as well as Tobii Eye Tracker / Quest 2 VR
Not you’ve got me interested. What makes you play on a controller?
@@g-locmedia it's just a lot easier to pick up and play DCS whenever i want. All i really need is a gaming laptop and a simple Xbox or Playstation controller.
Plus, when it's set up correctly, you'll never have to use any other device while playing. Mouse, head tracker, rudder pedals, keyboard? None of that is necessary once you're in the cockpit.
@@Tuuvas you don’t find it difficult controlling the plane?
you can play with controler watch tuuvas
Bro just told us to buy a 300€ stick 😂😂
I TOTALLY FORGOT YOU CAN TRY ANY DCS MODULE FOR FREE USING THEIR TRIALS PROGRAM FOR TWO WEEKS! AND THE COOL DOWN FOR EACH MODULE (to try for free again) IS ABOUT A MONTH IGNORE THIS GUY.
6 months between getting access to the module again after a trial. But after seeing everyone’s point of view I’ve changes my mind on the pricing.
granted, i came from 10k+ hours in Warthunder, but once i had my all the necessary buttons mapped, i did one mission editor to practice locking/firing ect, and then i was off to GS server, getting kills as a mountain flanker. you dont need weeks or months of practice to understand all the basics and start putting them to use in pvp, so you can evolve an improve your gameplay through experience agaisnt actual players/people better than you. plus its much more satisfying/gratifying to know you shot down another player. even when i learned the f16, ive never seen a single chucks guide, i watched a few short vids on whatever it was i had a question about.
Agree with the fact that playing against actual real players pushes your further quicker. Yea it’s all about nailing the basics down then growing.
If youre planning on multiplayer.
A2A = F16, is easy win once you learn.
Multirole = F/A18, so much options. And carriers ops, much fun.
Hardcore Multirole = F15E S4+, new release still wip, currently tough to compete with but potential is huge.
A2G = A10C2, Brtttt. Plus when you get good you can upset a lot of fighter jocks.
Nostalgia = F14 and Mirage, really tough to compete with F16s but once youre a beast it is really rewarding.
Everything = FC3, great package, covers all elements easier to pick up and play due limted simulation of every system, but the combat is just as challenging so learning curve just as steep. No clicky switches in cockpit, everthing needs assigning to hotas and keyboard.
Troll jets = Mig21, F5, Viggen, great in depth learning platforms, get gud in these and upset fighter jocks. Really tough to be that guy though but when it clicks you realise the secret.
Attack Helos = Apache or Ka50, both amazing.
Troll helo = Gazelle or Mi24, A2A missiles.
Cargo helos = Mi8 or Huey, great mp servers around to help assist your teams logistics and base capture.
Super Nostalgia = Mig15 and F86, less servers but amazing fun.
WW2 = take your flavour, all amazing.
Freebie = Su25T, yes its free with DCS, is FC3 standard. Can do anything A2G and is a master fighter jock upsetter. Kill them with R73 or vikhrs, then annihalte their base. Free fun.
A4E is also free but not official.
Thanks for taking so much time to put this together in the comments. This is awesome
Dislike right from the start for the first tip about not using a keyboard+mouse or a controller. For "getting most of" yes, sure I do agree, but that's not the point of the video, not a tip for the beginners! There was guy in a Growling Sidewinder's (or other popular dude) video doing a nearly perfect formation flying and a nice easy take off and landing.. on a laptop. ON A LAPTOP, using TRACKPAD! And other example, here I am having already ~30h, learning FA-18 using a PS4 pad and having a great time! Oh yeah, and that's during the trial period, wich is mentioned in very last seconds of the video! for a beginners! damn I got nerves watching this.
First tip is an absolute bullsh*t and mentioning the trials on the very end is as well. Hey Getting Started Beginners! wanting to learn the aircraft and have the pleasure of knowing ins and outs of its systems and fly a chill missions, a pad will be more than enough! And once the trial period is done, there hopefully will be enough experience to know if you want to invest in a module and in a hotas.
Thanks for sharing your views. Always great for others people to see views from both sides.
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