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I do not like the placement for the touch screen for my use case, you almost have to have a custom mount as desktop is both going to be hard to see, as well as easy to accidentally touch. I'd almost like it moved to the right or left of the throttle

Space sims would benefit froma dual stick setup. HOTAS is too limited for full 3D flight patterns.

how you flip/move on the F14 the wings with this Hotas?

Looks great but the low refresh screen is a deal breaker.

Thanks for the shout out at the end man. Much appreciated. I'll share this video on my Discord if that's ok? Take care.

Very interesting comparison here. I loved your reaction too. Cheers!

I mite try this for Kerbal Space Program.

IF YOU ARE LOOKING TO BUY A NEW SET OF STICKS OR HOTAS, CONSIDER VKB!! Dont get me wrong though, a cheap used set of sticks should be your first move to see if you enjoy using HOTAS/HOSAS. Then you start exploring more expensive options. VKB peripherals are cheap, built like tanks, and the staff behind them are extremely quick to resolve anything you can throw at them. That being said, ive had mine for a few years now and i have never had a single issue with them. I still have all my replacement parts in their labeled bags ready for when i have my first part failure. These will never fatigue or develop rudder drift because they don't use potentiometers like the x56 or t16ks. Even if you somehow damage them, they give you enough replacement pieces to fix it without having to wait for a part. My personal history with Turtle Beach is pretty bad. no turtle beach product ive ever owned has lasted more than a year. They expect you to call them up for repairs so they can charge you. Its bad business and they dont deserve your money. The review unit in this video already has pieces falling off! I'm not even surprised though, This is textbook Turtle Beach. Give your money to VKB or Virpil, they actually deserve it.

If the throttle was sold separately, I'd buy it cause that touch screen has so much potential.

Waiting in pre order 😤

Dang only a 3070 gpu? I have a 3070 Ti FTW3 Ultra I bought a couple years ago when it first launched.. now if only I could afford all the flight sim gear I would be in business lol. I have a gigabyte M27Q 1440p 170hz monitor and my 3070 Ti really struggles to run MSFS 2020 at like high/upper settings, even with DLSS on its only like 40-60 fps at 1440p, it is rough running at higher settings in MSFS for sure.

The bottoms broke on mine (where you push for rudder) so I had to swap em to the longer set. I'm a bit disappointed in the plastics durability but the other ones are working fine at the moment. I am wary of it happening again and will be switching to winwing if it does, but so far they have been rather nice. Super good on the fidelity side and very precise on the brakes but the plastic is the only thing making me nervous.

Very thoughtful and helpful review. Thank you!

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I love my vkb.

Being a real-life pilot X-plane a million times over for actual flight training. Better physics more accurately modeled systems. Flight sim for the looks or just flying around for fun (however the flying itself can be woefully inaccurate at times).

IMO 370 is a lot of money to be spending on a stick and a throttle. I think I managed to buy my stick, throttle and pedals from CH Products for like 200. But then again I haven't really had the opportunity to use a lot of the more expensive stuff because my cheap CH equipment still works and still works flawlessly. Granted, the CH stuff is all plastic and doesn't have a lot of extra buttons, but it's the kind of plastic you could bash somebody over the head with and do some serious damage. And I bought the pedals so I wouldn't need extra buttons. Also, one of my big important qualifiers when I'm looking for a Hotas is that either the control software is fully cross-platform, and I can use it on basically whatever device, or that the Hotas does not need its control software at all. But I guess that's kind of par for the course for somebody who stubbornly refuses to use Windows and continues insisting on playing games with Linux.

Tried to purchase from their site. They never send verification email, plus, looked like shipping was over $120. Yeah, no.

is i have Thrustmaster T16000M FCS HOTAS would you sya this one is better????

How do you set the screen up to display the from and side looks at the same time?

Really interesting comparison, I love the editing on the video too. Many thanks 😊

Great video, how did you get the two throttle mounts that are small with no large mount with mouse space? All of the other videos I see they have one smaller mount and one bigger mount for an optional mouse pad config? I prefer it the way you have it, just curious how you were able to get a different mount.

Just picked up the throttle quadrant and yoke for 500$ NZD second hand looking forward to using it

I have to correct one point of your video, there are non-adjustable dampers installed. At 2:10 in your video its the black circular device mounted with two screws above the cam the other one is mounted under the half-moon plastic cover at the ball of the stick iteself. These are removable and an adjustable version is coming in future. They are shown on Page 6,7 & 35 of the User Manual PDF. I only just found out myself but wanted to share the info, as they don't seem to do very much, although I haven't removed them to see the difference. I also hate the pendulm effect of having the heavy Hog stick on there, I think clutches would have made this base so much better.

but does it work with the turtle beach rudders?

I agree on the mounting holes. Yeah, most may have them, but on the bottom. Much like the vkb gladiator sticks, the mounting holes are right there on top. I like that it has adjustable width, maybe they could go a bit narrower for really small frames, but that's a good shoulder width. Not having a permanently attached cable is a big plus IMHO. You can use your own length, or get the right cable instead of having to use adapters, it's the only way to go. I don't have an x-box, I'm not much of a console person and don't do my gaming on the couch. However, I don't really like the idea of having to plug it into another controller as a pass-through, but get why it's necessary on a console.

Force feedback CLS-60 flitesim is more affordable but still about a $1000. Brunner CLS-E MK II about $2000. Rudder pedals & MK II Yoke bundle is about $3600.... If only the price for bundle was 1000, then i buy. For now, i will use a cheaper yoke around 300. Turtle Beach Velocity One Flight and pedals 500. Until force feedback in a bundle around $800... i pass. It's great if its your hobby, not for casual players

This looks like they took the old Saitek/Logitech design and added a few extra features, but the rudder action and smoothness in that design is rubbish (I know, I had them before moving onto the massively better Virpil ACE pedals) and looks the same here. Turtle Beach should have done more research before going that route on the most important aspect. If they had done it differently, even to the cost of cutting features, say the adjustable width and got the price down a touch they could have had a winner for the entry level rudder pedals range. As it is I’d never recommend this for PC users. For consoles, well, I don’t know, there’s not a lot of choice, but then again, console flight simmers shouldn’t be surprised by that.

VKB NXT sticks are by far the most bang for your buck.

Even for PC you need to have their yoke or joystick to connect it through? Or this applies for xbox only?

they are good for the price but aerosoft just started pre order for the charlie rudder pedals and im definitely in on it !

Nicely done. nd it needs to be said - you've built an awesome rig / workplace there!

i got these and after a week started to squek and feel like they were rubbing on the rails so i swapped them out and bout the winwing pedals and for a similar price winwing pedals blew them out the water i think if they didnt start to make noise and feel different after light us i would have been happy with them tho but when win wing offers a way better experince at only 50$ more i cant see why anyone should purchase these and even if they dropped price they would have to compete with vkbs offering

Honestly, these are designed better than most rudder pedals you'll fine in actual aircraft by the looks of it. IMO

Yeah not much choice in teh mide level budget. The vkbt is more expansive when you factor in teh shipping (and someties import fees) and doesn't have toe brakes. At least Virpil and now winwing has some options but they are a bit more expansive nevertheless.

I enjoy your vid. I fully agree that you should be harsh on reviewing all these hardware when the competition and availability of similar products may be better options.

I enjoy your vid. I fully agree that you should be harsh on reviewing all these hardware when the competition and availability of similar products may be better options.

300$ 😂 I always wanted them to make a cheap throttle for their flight stick but now I’m glad that I switched to different manufacturers which provide more value. Sucks that there isn’t more choice for console simmer.

VKB are nice a little over $200 albeit doesn't have toe brakes but is completely metal construction. Don't understand the high priced plastic. I feel these are for console simmers. Great review.

Пластмассовые изделия это не очень хорошо!

Great review, I've had these for a year or so now on PC, I've noticed that the width setting influences the noise and friction for some reason. They would squeek at a certain position and changing the width one notch, it went away. Overall I'd say they feel good, maybe I've gotten used to to the grainyness you mentioned, and I haven't tried the other options before.

Awesome review, great format and video quality. Whenever I fly single pistons I use steam. So this would be cool to have

More like Thrustmaster comes out trying to rip us off. There are so many better options. VKB is a much better option for mere mortals.

Not Xbox Compatible, is what I was hoping I wouldn’t hear. Anyone know the best entry-level pc for running Microsoft Flight Sim 24?

I have one. I use it if I'm filming a mission or I need a backup if my VR needs charged. Used to use it exclusively before I got my VR. Man needs a backup if he has to get airborne

Because they dont care if their wife looks at them like they are idiots

How are you goin' buddy, all the best from a fellow scot, though one still ensconced in Glasgow (without good sense like yours to move to the sun, ya lucky fellow). I've been loving your channel since I found it a few months back. Today I scratched the itch you gave me and ordered my Brunner CLSEs. You cost me a small fortune but you're responsible for the excited anticipation I'm revelling in right now. All the best Garry. ps. I bought one of your Ts as a thank-you.

this review is amazing thank you

Wish companies would make left hand stick and right throttle combos more often. Until then I'm sticking to my pair of VKB gladiators. Which to me is the best I can get.

The Quality is MUCH Better than I expected…and it took only 6 calendar days to arrive at my house from China! AMAZING! I recommend purchasing directly from their website!