I would definitely always build my own Pc, so atleast you know every single component that goes in and can specifically adapt it to your situation. Like the motherboard is probably not even listed for those Pc‘s in the video. And it‘s probably almost safe to say that you‘re saving some money when you build it yourself (not always guaranteed though cause it seems that some sellers manage to get extra offers and therefore build cheaper than the average person is able to)
@@TheLuxentertainment I used to be all about building my PCs all myself (watercooled Crossfire GPUs with a seperate housing for massive radiators and all that nonsense back in the day), but getting a bit older I totally see the appeal of prebuilt machines - when the quality and price are right. I tell you, friends asking you to configure a gaming system on a shoestring budget for them gets really old over the years - nowadays I just recommend refurbished graphics workstations such as HP Z240, Z2 G4... with a new gaming GPU to be chosen by them. That works a treat every time I recommended it, is cheaper than self-built from new parts, and comes with a warranty. Also I'm getting too old to bother fixing other people's unstable overclocking settings ("since you know my PC, can you also help me figure out why I have this intermittent problem in this one game?")...
decnet100 That‘s fine, nothing to say against that. But you also don‘t have to always go overkill and do complicated stuff. Especially nowadays good builds can be pretty foolproof and straight forward. You can also always play it safe and go with the exact same components thousands of people have succesfully tried before instead of risking something. Also I would recommend to anyone to simply not overclock unless you‘re going all in, cause the 5 fps you‘re gaining is not worth the hassle for the average guy. And then finally it‘s personal preference. Some people just want to play games and don‘t care on what machine they do it and that‘s completely fine. I love building Pc‘s though and it just gives me the extra satisfaction when everything comes together and works and you‘ve done it all yourself.
@@TheLuxentertainment Yeah true... It doesn't have to be terribly complicated, and most people are surprised how easy and almost foolproof it is to build a PC from scratch (minus some sensitive bits like CPU sockets). On the other hand, if you're just putting together for the third time what you know works, it's not all that exciting either, right? With those workstation things, I love letting them install the GPU themselves, think it gives them a little bit of a connection to the machine, without giving me headaches over RAM incompatibilies on an actual build :)
@@decnet100 I wouldnt use a Z240 Workstation for gaming at all. youll never get the same performance out of a Xeon CPU compared to a new Ryzen 7 or ryzen 9
You also need a decent size monitor. It really helps for IR tracking... 24" starting, 27"-32" midrange, >32/widescreens for best play. AND, make sure all are gaming quality monitors.
I don't think I have a gaming quality monitor. A 7 year old SeikiPro 40" 60hz monitor runs and displays DCS just fine. Given the resolution, and my not mid-range GPU (2070 Super), I'm not hitting 60fps solid so maybe FreeSync or G-Sync could see a performance/visual benefit. I simply turn off v-sync and things are fine while I'm around 50fps (with vsync on, it drops all the way down to 30fps which is unplayable).
X56 Rhino = $250 Logitech G pedals = $180 As for the modules, I buy them during STEAM sales. They are very expensive so it makes sense to buy the maps first, then buy a single mod and play it till you master it before buying another. Right now I’m working on FA18. After I buy Supercarrier, I’ll buy F-16. I’m not interested in any other modules till F35 or F22 come to market.
Thanks cap, I've been watching this channel for a while now and thinking about jumping on this train. I used to do simulators alot back in the day and they have come along way and much more realistic looking and sounding. Needless to say my interest has been perked and I'm seriously considering getting into this type of gaming to help ease some of the boredom on these days when its to hot outside to do much and traffic sucks to much to go cruising around.
I'm a complete amateur, but was able to build my own PC and had a good time doing it. Started with a nice large case which gave me space to work, stow cabling, and good air circulation. Got to choose a power supply to accomplish every power demand I would possibly need. Got a decent mid-range Z390 motherboard, water-cooled med/high end CPU, an almost top of-the-line GPU (most important), 32Gb decently fast RAM, all SSD and/or M.2 storage. A few misc. cards for USBs, bluetooth, etc. Filled the rest of the space with cooling fans. Works great and on a par with the highest performers mentioned here but for much less money than pre-built. Anyone with an interest can do it.
Pre built prices are insane. I feel genuinely bad for people who spend 2x what they need to on a pre built for a little convenience, it’s good to learn this stuff yourself and is relatively easy (TH-cam and internet has everything you need to know).
Hey Cap ! Thanks for this and all the hundreds perhaps thousands of hours you have selflessly donated to helping us with DCS WORLD. If anyone deserves a state of the art gaming PC it's you. Many happy regards ! Ron [ The Texan ] Bakersfield California USA
I am waiting to either buy the new 3000 series or a reduced price 2000 and the wait to start DCS is agony. But I have made up my mind to wait. PROBABLY 🤬
@@digihorse6730 maybe get the 2000 series reduced, you'll get better value and probably better FPS since DCS won't be optimized for the new hardware. Not that DCS is optimized anyway, it really needs to switch to Vulkan like X plane because even top tier systems get lag.
@@youtubeairways8646 Doesn't necessarily mean it will stop lagging right away after that. Also, if you are really disinclined to get the 30-series, it's probably best to get the 20- now, since rumor has it the prices will actually go up on the 20- series instead.
For my CONTROLS I have: #1 X56 Rhino ($250) #2 Logitech G Pedals ($185) #3 NLR Flight Stand ($300) #4 Oculus Quest 2 ($300) #5 Inland Gaming Desk ($300) For my Computer, I have: #1 3090 FTW3 ($1955 with tax) #2 Intel Extreme CPU, HDD, SSD, 32GB DDR4, 34" Monitor, Klipsch 2.1 Promedia Basically my entire rig set me back around $10,000
to the people who are getting into DCS world, I'd highly recommend getting the F-15C or FC3 and getting the F-22 mod by grinelli, I have learnt most of the plane already and really enjoyed it. It's also mostly clickable so you can navigate with ease and without needing to remember specific combinations on the keyboard.
@@rwhunt99 Gpus are released every 2 years for nvidia . . Also pascal strugless with new titles and the same with maxwell anything below 80 has problems next generations.You dont know what your talking about
I don’t want to think about it: VKB Gunfighter pro, VKB rudder pedals, Virpil CM3 Throttle, Monstertech fligh stand with accessories… all not including shipping and norwegian sales tax and customs declaration. But it IS a rewarding hobby.
for someone like yourself thats making content i would go for a higher end AMD CPU maybe a little lower FPS like 5fps but the gains you will get with all those cores when it comes to OBS and rendering will make it worth it for the gains in time saved
I have been putting some of my Disability check away each month away. Especially after I checked out the WinWing controllers. www.winwing.cn/en/JOYSTICK
Don Hanson Less than $500 gets you an X56 and Logitech G Pedals. I see no reason to spend so much when you can’t realistically model various cockpits anyway. The WARTHOG/COUGAR HOTAS is nice but newer fighters like F22 and F35 have newer designs. X56 splits the difference better
@@andreartymiuk That's why I'm waiting for the tech to mature. Once we have headsets that are more like goggles and have comparable image quality to those Varjo thinggies, that will be the time to switch to VR (at least for me).
Super cap, please wait a few months until the 3000 series of Nvidia is out, the 2080ti and lower aren't worth it because the new ones in September will blow them away. Also those prices are too high, I'm always for DIY builds
If ED comes through on their promises the specs for a great gaming experience in DCS will be changing. Right now my Video card never gets over 60% usage. With the revamped game engine the video card will be able to do its job and the CPU overhead will go way down. I currently have a home built Ryzen 7 3800X and an AMD RX5700XT video card. Swapped out my video card from a RTX2060 to the 5700XT and I have no issues. I am a PC nerd so I bought a top of the line MB and using M.2 drive for boot and DCS. And water cooled it while I was building.
why i seem to have BOTH pretty low cpu and gpu even when i have older computer. I think that is very weird. I mean there is even HUGE difference in kinda any game in sounds of my fans :D so huge i put headset immeadiatly on nowdays when playing something else because so used fans not to yell full on :D Is engine just so old it does not take full advantage of my cpu? though my cpu is also pretty old. Though not so old as dcs. (thank god)
Ever since I started playing DCS World with VR, I could never go back to playing on a 2D monitor. I'm guessing that you have tried DCS in VR before though?
To those who are looking for a head tracker, check out Aimxy. They use gyroscope and accelerometer instead of camera based IR tracking. Have way better track range and anti interference performance. Plus cheap, a three module kit costs about $110.
AMD Threadripper 3960X is a powerful multi-thread CPU. Not needed in DCS. In fact the i5-10600K beats it handily in single-thread benchmarks (and it's 1/4 the cost.)
My whole setup was around 8k, all top of the line shit all due to how amazing DCS is. I wanted the best experience. And nothing compares to VR so I had to get a beefy comp.
I'm willing to bet I have the cheapest set-up here. PC: My old Surface 3 tablet. Non-pro, barely runs minecraft. Streaming cheapest shadow PC plan. Head tracker: Diy (using built in surface camera with 2 pieces of exposed film to filter visible light) Controller: used Thrustmaster hotas 4 Modules: only basic modules until something in my setup gets upgraded. The "computer" can only process about 20 fps for head tracking so I had to really dial in the curves. That's the limiting factor now. In an effort to get better performance I found a way of getting cardboard to work with all of this. And still maybe get better performance. Forgot to mention. I've spent less than the cost of a Thrustmaster 16000m In total.
I have a Top/Overkill PC and I can say it is worth every Penny for DCS........PS: Love You videos and all the work you put into them EDIT: Also it is way Better and a lot Cheaper to build your own PC. It's actually not as hard to do as it used to be. Anyone can do it now just buy you tube videos
I used to play on my laptop but I would get some stuttering because my CPU really needs better multi-core support in DCS. I haven't played in nearly a year, maybe the newer updates have made some improvements in that area. I also play on Windows 7 having cleared off the Windows 10 partition immediately upon receiving my laptop, I imagine that Windows 10 is more optimized. I have a T.Flight Hotas 4 and that works well so far but I would like to get some head tracking. I'm also looking at building a new PC and will likely get more involved in DCS after the new PC is built.
If I'm not mistaken, all the VSN mods require FC3, so you'll be paying a little to use them. Totally a fan of the Grass Monkey Puck with OpenTrack, and I imagine Delanclip is similar. I'm glad I didn't pay double for TrackIR.
They seem to have left it as an option, but mostly switched to SFM. Using FC3 flight models is basically IP infringement, so I don't recommend dealing with that...
$2000 pc $600 playseat $300 Warthog HOTAS $500 Rift S $200 rudder pedals $200-300 modules Tomcat and Viper and maps You have to have a VR capable PC. It's a million times better than a monitor. And with the Reverb G2 coming and the next gen CPU and GPU it'll be incredible.
something to note with VR you can do VR on the very low if you have a Cellphone................ and have some rudmentary headtracking........ Preferably you have a big phone. Iphone XS max. or similar in size with Good display output.... you dont need to throw alot if you wanna just try it...... and some VR solutions are all entirely standalone so your PC does not have to use much resources at all to run it. but most part if your PC plays the game fine at medium settings. you have to think about it this way. your PC can display perfectly fine on a 1800X+ -~ 900X+ size monitor. why can't it output perfectly fine to a cellphone sized display. you can typically in my experience run VR games at alot higher settings because your resolution on a VR display or headset is soo soo much smaller than your 2k 4k 8k monitors etc etc. the best VR headsets are 1080p.... putting that in perspective.
If you are going to use a controller, I'd recommend the PS4 Dualshock controller over the xbox controller. This is mainly because the PS4 controller has a touchpad in the middle of it that can be used as mouse movement which can be used for looking around the cockpit. I find using the touchpad on a ps4 controller way better than using an analog controller stick to look around as the responsiveness of movements is tied down to the analog stick speeds. Additionally, the touchpad is also a button which can be used for a keybind or a modifier key. I currently fly F/A 18 on the PC4 controller and have more than enough buttons for everything needed to fly and use in combat.
Cap, you can save a ton and get a much better rig if you build your own computer. If you don't feel confident, I'd be happy to walk you through it. You've helped me out so much, id be more than happy to help.
Although I don’t recommend you buy new PC hardware, with new stuff is just around the corner. If you’re dead set on getting something now or used then the facts are that Intel CPUs are dominant in gaming and DCS in particular and Nvidia are better performing also in DCS, other games this is not always the case so do your research if you play many games.
Thanks cap! Honestly, you don't really need a head tracker unless you really want to spend some money. I just used opentrack and my webcam to track my head in game and it works pretty well! But I think a good HOTAS is worth it in DCS and other sims
I have a i9 9900KS rtx2080 super, 32gb ram, track ir, with hotas warthog hotas. Offline are graphics. Online graphics are medium because the frames do a lot when playing onlline
Honestly, you're better off building a PC. They're pretty easy to build that its like building Legos but easier. Check out Gamers Nexus or Tech Deals if you want to go more in depth. Some tips: 1.) If you're ever overwhelmed or confused, refer to your motherboards manuel. 2.) PCPartPicker is great if you're trying to see which parts are compatible or not. 3.) Get a good idea of what you're build is going to look like before you start building or even selecting parts.
FC3 is $49.99 not $15. You can get it on a sale for about $25. I'd recomend it as a starter module though because it gives you several competitive yet simple aircraft. Also, I'd strongly recommend some form a head tracking, even over a HOTAS. It makes such a huge difference in situational awareness.
You're right, I misheard what Cap said. I guess I saw FC3 for $15 in the spreadsheet and thought he was talking about it as a whole rather than individual aircraft. My bad, carry on.
Try and buy any of this for the prices shown... it's just not possible. HOTAS in particular are hard to come by and very expensive, as are even basically capable video cards. Double or triple the prices shown here. I know that was last july, but in March 2021 this is the state of things, and has been for several months.
Asking how much is like asking much a car costs. Do you want a rusted beater that only just works or do you want a Ferrari? I’m up to about $10,000 with another $5,000 planned this year for my setup. Others can spend a small amount and still have fun.
You can run DCS on even a 5th Generation CORE i7 with 32GB DDR4 and a 2060GPU. If you have a newer CPU like a Core i9 9900k and 32GB DDr4 with a 2070 or 2080 you are ahead of the game. DCS is not tremendously demanding, but to turn up all the settings you definitely want a Core i7 (or better) with 16GB DDR4 minimum and the best GPU you can buy. The game can scale down. I have an i9 EXtreme with 2080Ti and 64GB DDR4. As far as peripherals go, the best possible combination that won't empty your wallet is the Logitech pro pedals + Logiteck Saitek X56 because you want to have the split throttle $500 maximum. If you are CASH RICH: Thrustmaster WARTHOG or COUGAR HOTAS with Thrustmaster's Pendular pedals - but you're going in the hole $1000. VIRPIL is gonna cost more than Thrustmaster and is harder to get because of stock issues.
My current setup that actually works really damn well (for me at least). PC - 3060 Ti, Ryzen 7 3800x at 4.2ghz, 32gb Corsair ram at 3200mhz and DCS is installed on my 1tb 970 M.2. Gear - LG Ultra Gear 27inch at 1440p, Logitech X56 Hotas (Not mounted I just sit them on my desk), Track IR with pro clip (hat clip is not a good idea) and then for planes I mainly stick with the hornet and viper. My GPU is overclocked from factory and by me but that’s not that important for DCS
Tip for people on a budget who'd rather not buy a used PC, because they'd prefer some sort of quality assurance/warranty: You can get refurbished HP professional Workstations with a one-year warranty, such as Z240, or later Z2 G4, Z4 G4s These do offer older (not: rotten) decent intel CPUs, shitloads of RAM, a quite capable power supply - unlike many "multimedia machines" that will constantly crash when you install a decent GPU for lack of power. Found one on ebay in the UK (just first one, there are lots of sellers around) for around 450 pounds with an i7 6700 and 32gigs of ddr4 ram, SSD + 1TB HDD, no GPU. Vanilla spec with the same CPU can be had for as little as €350 where I'm from. Stick a decent GPU in there (GTX1660 and up) and you're well inside the comfortable zone IMO, for around 700 €/pounds total. Not enough power/too old CPU for you? Pay €300 more - Z2 G4 with i7 8700, 32GB Ram, nvm SSD+2TB. That'll do. Around €300 more, they also offered i9-9xxx versions on the same platform. Just don't expect to be doing much overclocking on the CPU, but if you're on a budget and not into building your own machine, that's quite a solid option IMO. Also, they come with cases that doesn't look like someone inserted a bunch of 90's-rave-glowsticks into a Transformer's behind. Which is a definite plus in my book, other people's opinion might vary. Also, most of the sellers will gladly sell you a used screen plus keyboard and mouse for peanuts, to get you started if you truly come from outside the PC world.
@@getsideways7257 :) Glad we're on the same page there. Truly, why is it that everyone wants to look today like what was bad taste even in the late 1990s?
@@decnet100 Exactly. And to think that the same people would give Macs a lot of flack for their design... Although, yes, the recent "cheese-grater" is really too much in terms of "different thinking".
@@getsideways7257 Absolutely. Usually I have nothing against Macs from a design standpoint; the new cheese grater is a bit inelegant indeed IMO. Would have looked a lot better with smaller holes IMO, making it visually a bit more uniform and less "in your face!" To be honest, I was the boring kid who liked server cases even back in school. Top extravagancy in my computer-case likings were those colorful SGI workstations :) I'd still think an Octane case would make for a nice system. Or drink cabinet :)
🙂 . I think it´s super difficult to get started with binding your buttons on the HOTAS you now have, how to use them, etc. There are lots of videos that show how in DCS, but then they don't show where on the HOTAS the specific button is or an alternative. How or which button do you press to throw a bomb, how do you access it - often it's someone who has been playing DCS for 100 years, sitting around with their mouse and talking to someone as if you know what he's talking about. I also need a "Drawing" that shows what each button does, or where to press to be able to throw the bomb, how to choose targets, how to switch to machine guns, etc. Br, the frustrated and soon-to-be former user of DCS 🙂
It should be noted that it is not really possible to build an overkill system for DCS VR. The best you can really do is "adequate." I have the fastest setup it's possible to get, and I still see reprojection quite a bit.
my cheap ver is Dell G7 16 GB GTX 1060 Max Q, PXN Hotas. I am 60 yo and using it for cognitive and hand-eye training. A lot of fun too. G7 was 30$ gift, and Hotas 78$ on sale Fly the free SU 25T and start with Caps tutorial and a nice keyboard layout from beniboy on 11x17.
Build your own PC instead and you'll get either cheaper with the same power factor or more powerfull for the price of any of mentioned sets. It's not that hard, just need to be gentle ;). Also currently clean DCS with all available modules takes about 210GB of disk space, and at least two maps are coming soon (20-30GB each, I would assume - Mariana Islands and Syria), so add to whatever configuration you're aiming an extra hard drive with no less than 500GB of volume for exclusive use with DCS.
DON'T BE AFRAID TO BUY AN OFF THE SHELF PC. HP OMEN models have been offering great equipment for $1000. UltraWide monitor will help as well. 34 - 49" 1440p monitors will cost $1000 max.
All I'm really missing is a HOTAS and the software. Not sure I'd want to play this with my og vive because it might be pretty difficult to spot targets when in visual range if Growling Sidewinder's videos are anything to go by. Screen door effect is real.
Overkill??? Check, check, check, check, and VR... HP Reverb, check! I'm good! 😎👍 Full Disclosure: I built my system to run DCS in VR, so all said, I have spent about $7k on DCS between hardware (computer and seat w/controllers) and modules. The ironic part is that i built this for DCS, but have been so excited to try all VR has to offer, that i haven't played much DCS with it yet. Lol 🤣
I got 2 virpul joysticks so far, with monting brackets and bases it cost me $580 for the alpha and $700 for the alpha prime, plus brackets and mounting for keyboard and mouse and im up to $1500 just on that. No trottle or foot pedals or track ir yet and each month my pc becomes older
Many thanks for an excellent video. I'm looking at starting into DCS myself and I just wanted to get your recommendations for where to buy the PC here in the UK. I noted you mentioned in the video ebuyer. I've also looked at PC specialists. Not holding you to it of course just completely in the dark as to where is the better place to go for the right kit. On the monitor side I'd also be interested in your thoughts. I'm only going for one. I've seen the Samsung curved monitors. Would you go for built in sound or just go with headphones. For me not to disturb the family too much headphones seem a good choice and my current everyday use pc has built in speakers which is my preferred option as it's nice neat and tidy.
If ur looking at buying a pc don't buy a prebuilt. If ur serious for something like a sim gaming, build it urself u will save a tone of money and it will be optimal
I got AITrack/OpenTrack for head tracking Thrustmaster T.Flight Stick X (the throttle doesnt seem to be picked up but I did also put no effort into trying to make it work) and a 8gb ram gtx 1050 ti i5-4570 if I lower to grapichs to almost minimum i can get around 80-90 fps (singleplayer)
Hi mate ! Should I upgrade from 8086k @5.2Ghz to 12900k and ddr5 memory+mobo ? I currently run dcs on 8086k and FTW3 ultra 3090 ,please I got the parts already but don't really know if return it or keep it for future proof.
@@grimreapers most people says DCS and MSFS prefers higher clock than multicores ,I have the 8086k delid 4 years ago and it runs below 70C @ 5.2 ,I'm kind guessing that the performance gains compared to price of upgrading to 12900k will be bad ,what do you think?
Great vid but the problem with the game is the open beta and the the stable version is world apart..each module cost like a AAA game and yet so many bugs!
You don't need much brain to code an "AAA game". Sims like this are different... And before you complain, where have you seen a better offer anyway? Do you have any idea what going Prepar3d would cost you if you wanted air combat and high fidelity modules? Not to mention you'd also have to forget about "bug free" there and would be forced to pay additional $60 for every major version of it (and that's not including the upgrade fees for all your stuff when you are switching versions). Of course, you can also try Falcon BMS almost truly for free, but... You just need to see it for yourself. Not to mention, it's based on ancient software basically made up from bugs.
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DCS... the most expensive free sim I've ever owned :-)
I remember when I ran it perfectly back in 2015
@@kasrakhatir I've had DCS on steam since 2014 but I've only had a good enough pc to be able to run it at satisfactory settings in the last year.
It’s never really free 😂
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CAP all those PCs are complete rip offs. Dont buy from them
I would definitely always build my own Pc, so atleast you know every single component that goes in and can specifically adapt it to your situation. Like the motherboard is probably not even listed for those Pc‘s in the video. And it‘s probably almost safe to say that you‘re saving some money when you build it yourself (not always guaranteed though cause it seems that some sellers manage to get extra offers and therefore build cheaper than the average person is able to)
@@TheLuxentertainment I used to be all about building my PCs all myself (watercooled Crossfire GPUs with a seperate housing for massive radiators and all that nonsense back in the day), but getting a bit older I totally see the appeal of prebuilt machines - when the quality and price are right. I tell you, friends asking you to configure a gaming system on a shoestring budget for them gets really old over the years - nowadays I just recommend refurbished graphics workstations such as HP Z240, Z2 G4... with a new gaming GPU to be chosen by them. That works a treat every time I recommended it, is cheaper than self-built from new parts, and comes with a warranty. Also I'm getting too old to bother fixing other people's unstable overclocking settings ("since you know my PC, can you also help me figure out why I have this intermittent problem in this one game?")...
decnet100 That‘s fine, nothing to say against that. But you also don‘t have to always go overkill and do complicated stuff. Especially nowadays good builds can be pretty foolproof and straight forward. You can also always play it safe and go with the exact same components thousands of people have succesfully tried before instead of risking something. Also I would recommend to anyone to simply not overclock unless you‘re going all in, cause the 5 fps you‘re gaining is not worth the hassle for the average guy. And then finally it‘s personal preference. Some people just want to play games and don‘t care on what machine they do it and that‘s completely fine. I love building Pc‘s though and it just gives me the extra satisfaction when everything comes together and works and you‘ve done it all yourself.
@@TheLuxentertainment Yeah true... It doesn't have to be terribly complicated, and most people are surprised how easy and almost foolproof it is to build a PC from scratch (minus some sensitive bits like CPU sockets). On the other hand, if you're just putting together for the third time what you know works, it's not all that exciting either, right?
With those workstation things, I love letting them install the GPU themselves, think it gives them a little bit of a connection to the machine, without giving me headaches over RAM incompatibilies on an actual build :)
@@decnet100 I wouldnt use a Z240 Workstation for gaming at all. youll never get the same performance out of a Xeon CPU compared to a new Ryzen 7 or ryzen 9
You also need a decent size monitor. It really helps for IR tracking... 24" starting, 27"-32" midrange, >32/widescreens for best play. AND, make sure all are gaming quality monitors.
I don't think I have a gaming quality monitor. A 7 year old SeikiPro 40" 60hz monitor runs and displays DCS just fine. Given the resolution, and my not mid-range GPU (2070 Super), I'm not hitting 60fps solid so maybe FreeSync or G-Sync could see a performance/visual benefit. I simply turn off v-sync and things are fine while I'm around 50fps (with vsync on, it drops all the way down to 30fps which is unplayable).
X56 Rhino = $250
Logitech G pedals = $180
As for the modules, I buy them during STEAM sales. They are very expensive so it makes sense to buy the maps first, then buy a single mod and play it till you master it before buying another.
Right now I’m working on FA18. After I buy Supercarrier, I’ll buy F-16.
I’m not interested in any other modules till F35 or F22 come to market.
Thanks cap, I've been watching this channel for a while now and thinking about jumping on this train. I used to do simulators alot back in the day and they have come along way and much more realistic looking and sounding. Needless to say my interest has been perked and I'm seriously considering getting into this type of gaming to help ease some of the boredom on these days when its to hot outside to do much and traffic sucks to much to go cruising around.
I'm a complete amateur, but was able to build my own PC and had a good time doing it. Started with a nice large case which gave me space to work, stow cabling, and good air circulation. Got to choose a power supply to accomplish every power demand I would possibly need. Got a decent mid-range Z390 motherboard, water-cooled med/high end CPU, an almost top of-the-line GPU (most important), 32Gb decently fast RAM, all SSD and/or M.2 storage. A few misc. cards for USBs, bluetooth, etc. Filled the rest of the space with cooling fans. Works great and on a par with the highest performers mentioned here but for much less money than pre-built. Anyone with an interest can do it.
Pre built prices are insane. I feel genuinely bad for people who spend 2x what they need to on a pre built for a little convenience, it’s good to learn this stuff yourself and is relatively easy (TH-cam and internet has everything you need to know).
Hey Cap ! Thanks for this and all the hundreds perhaps thousands of hours you have selflessly donated to helping us with DCS WORLD. If anyone deserves a state of the art gaming PC it's you. Many happy regards ! Ron [ The Texan ] Bakersfield California USA
Ron Gamblin start a GoFundMe for CAP. I’ll donate towards a kickass PC for him
Thanks Ron! It's OK guys I have saved enough $$ for it, just waiting to make sure I get the optimal system now!
@@crazylegsmurphy yep second that.... GoFundMe for CAP
1:24 get custom built
2:43 it's 2020 get Ryzen or Threadripper
Also wait for Big Navi/30- series
I am waiting to either buy the new 3000 series or a reduced price 2000 and the wait to start DCS is agony. But I have made up my mind to wait. PROBABLY 🤬
@@digihorse6730 maybe get the 2000 series reduced, you'll get better value and probably better FPS since DCS won't be optimized for the new hardware. Not that DCS is optimized anyway, it really needs to switch to Vulkan like X plane because even top tier systems get lag.
@@youtubeairways8646 Doesn't necessarily mean it will stop lagging right away after that. Also, if you are really disinclined to get the 30-series, it's probably best to get the 20- now, since rumor has it the prices will actually go up on the 20- series instead.
@@getsideways7257 what tech-news have you been watching?! xD
For my CONTROLS I have:
#1 X56 Rhino ($250)
#2 Logitech G Pedals ($185)
#3 NLR Flight Stand ($300)
#4 Oculus Quest 2 ($300)
#5 Inland Gaming Desk ($300)
For my Computer, I have:
#1 3090 FTW3 ($1955 with tax)
#2 Intel Extreme CPU, HDD, SSD, 32GB DDR4, 34" Monitor, Klipsch 2.1 Promedia
Basically my entire rig set me back around $10,000
Whattaheck do you have in it among those mentioned if its 10k :o ?
An overkill gaming PC does not exist : )... Unfortunately budgets do.
to the people who are getting into DCS world, I'd highly recommend getting the F-15C or FC3 and getting the F-22 mod by grinelli, I have learnt most of the plane already and really enjoyed it. It's also mostly clickable so you can navigate with ease and without needing to remember specific combinations on the keyboard.
Cap don't buy a pc yet new GPUs comings out in September from AMD and Nvidia you will lose 100s in the price drop on current parts
thx
Far as I know, nVidia is planning to *raise* the prices on the 20- series instead.
@@rwhunt99 Gpus are released every 2 years for nvidia . . Also pascal strugless with new titles and the same with maxwell anything below 80 has problems next generations.You dont know what your talking about
This has aged well
HAHAHAHAHA WELL FK XD
I don’t want to think about it: VKB Gunfighter pro, VKB rudder pedals, Virpil CM3 Throttle, Monstertech fligh stand with accessories… all not including shipping and norwegian sales tax and customs declaration. But it IS a rewarding hobby.
Had to mute this so my wife didn't flip out cuz we have 2 setup at my home so the kids can play with me.
Rudder pedals? Cougar MFD? Another $300
Ah, yeh forgot about pedals. That said I did 4 years without pedals so def not a requirement to playing.
Thanks Cap. Helpful for the starters. But don’t forget to budget in the monitor or monitors. That can crank up the price quite a bit.
Good point. My monitor is one of the priciest things in my rig (and it's not even all that big at 27")
for someone like yourself thats making content i would go for a higher end AMD CPU maybe a little lower FPS like 5fps but the gains you will get with all those cores when it comes to OBS and rendering will make it worth it for the gains in time saved
Yo what major hardware is commenting here??? And with only 1 like and zero comments?
5950X would be nutty
oh god better start saving up
Yup me too
I have been putting some of my Disability check away each month away. Especially after I checked out the WinWing controllers. www.winwing.cn/en/JOYSTICK
Don Hanson
Less than $500 gets you an X56 and Logitech G Pedals.
I see no reason to spend so much when you can’t realistically model various cockpits anyway.
The WARTHOG/COUGAR HOTAS is nice but newer fighters like F22 and F35 have newer designs.
X56 splits the difference better
That is why is said Fk it and got a hang glider and lessons to fly it.
I will get some ram and a joystick (x56) at January if I write a good test
Btw, the top tier VR costs 4000 Euro. DCS recently added support for Varjo headsets.
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Varjo VR headsets are AMAZING .. was lucky enough to try one ... but so expensive!! Would have to sell the wife.
@@andreartymiuk That's why I'm waiting for the tech to mature. Once we have headsets that are more like goggles and have comparable image quality to those Varjo thinggies, that will be the time to switch to VR (at least for me).
Super cap, please wait a few months until the 3000 series of Nvidia is out, the 2080ti and lower aren't worth it because the new ones in September will blow them away. Also those prices are too high, I'm always for DIY builds
Thanks Erix will bear this in mind
It’s not cap just because new stuff is coming out
aged like milk
If ED comes through on their promises the specs for a great gaming experience in DCS will be changing. Right now my Video card never gets over 60% usage. With the revamped game engine the video card will be able to do its job and the CPU overhead will go way down. I currently have a home built Ryzen 7 3800X and an AMD RX5700XT video card. Swapped out my video card from a RTX2060 to the 5700XT and I have no issues. I am a PC nerd so I bought a top of the line MB and using M.2 drive for boot and DCS. And water cooled it while I was building.
why i seem to have BOTH pretty low cpu and gpu even when i have older computer. I think that is very weird. I mean there is even HUGE difference in kinda any game in sounds of my fans :D so huge i put headset immeadiatly on nowdays when playing something else because so used fans not to yell full on :D Is engine just so old it does not take full advantage of my cpu? though my cpu is also pretty old. Though not so old as dcs. (thank god)
Ever since I started playing DCS World with VR, I could never go back to playing on a 2D monitor. I'm guessing that you have tried DCS in VR before though?
It's not suitable for me because I have to bounce between various Windows programs while flying.
DCS is incredible to play in VR, but it wouldn't be terribly suitable for making TH-cam content.
To those who are looking for a head tracker, check out Aimxy. They use gyroscope and accelerometer instead of camera based IR tracking. Have way better track range and anti interference performance. Plus cheap, a
three module kit costs about $110.
Interesting idea, thanks.
Good analysis!. Don't forget that all this investment apart from DCS modules, can be used to play other sims both flight and space!
Most expensive part, but the best value part for immersion for me was the D-Box motion, can't fly without it.
Since ED introduced vulkan, it saves a lot of money for me
You should also mention or keep in mind if its 1080p or 1440p. And which fps to target at
AMD Threadripper 3960X is a powerful multi-thread CPU. Not needed in DCS. In fact the i5-10600K beats it handily in single-thread benchmarks (and it's 1/4 the cost.)
My whole setup was around 8k, all top of the line shit all due to how amazing DCS is. I wanted the best experience. And nothing compares to VR so I had to get a beefy comp.
As a teenager I can't afford it, and when I graduate college I wouldn't want to spend that much anyway
Adam Swift, maybe consider getting a job? It’s helped me make money for buying a pc
random note on the head tracking, there's the open source FaceTrackNoIR which is free; has worked OK in the past and only requires a webcam
I'd rather urge anybody interested in headtracking to DIY the LED-clip by their own hands instead. FaceTrack is simply horrible.
I'm willing to bet I have the cheapest set-up here.
PC: My old Surface 3 tablet. Non-pro, barely runs minecraft. Streaming cheapest shadow PC plan.
Head tracker: Diy (using built in surface camera with 2 pieces of exposed film to filter visible light)
Controller: used Thrustmaster hotas 4
Modules: only basic modules until something in my setup gets upgraded.
The "computer" can only process about 20 fps for head tracking so I had to really dial in the curves. That's the limiting factor now.
In an effort to get better performance I found a way of getting cardboard to work with all of this. And still maybe get better performance.
Forgot to mention. I've spent less than the cost of a Thrustmaster 16000m In total.
I build my DIY IR Trackers for about 15€ (little less since I buy many parts togheter) so there you have a full plane on savings.
Do you think I need the overkill pc for the ir tracker? He said VR needs a better one but it’s not in my budget :/
I got Oculus 2. I'm LOVING it.
I have a Top/Overkill PC and I can say it is worth every Penny for DCS........PS: Love You videos and all the work you put into them
EDIT: Also it is way Better and a lot Cheaper to build your own PC. It's actually not as hard to do as it used to be. Anyone can do it now just buy you tube videos
I used to play on my laptop but I would get some stuttering because my CPU really needs better multi-core support in DCS. I haven't played in nearly a year, maybe the newer updates have made some improvements in that area. I also play on Windows 7 having cleared off the Windows 10 partition immediately upon receiving my laptop, I imagine that Windows 10 is more optimized. I have a T.Flight Hotas 4 and that works well so far but I would like to get some head tracking. I'm also looking at building a new PC and will likely get more involved in DCS after the new PC is built.
Mouse Keyboard Monitor are also things to consider and table mounts too
If I'm not mistaken, all the VSN mods require FC3, so you'll be paying a little to use them.
Totally a fan of the Grass Monkey Puck with OpenTrack, and I imagine Delanclip is similar. I'm glad I didn't pay double for TrackIR.
They seem to have left it as an option, but mostly switched to SFM. Using FC3 flight models is basically IP infringement, so I don't recommend dealing with that...
$2000 pc
$600 playseat
$300 Warthog HOTAS
$500 Rift S
$200 rudder pedals
$200-300 modules Tomcat and Viper and maps
You have to have a VR capable PC. It's a million times better than a monitor. And with the Reverb G2 coming and the next gen CPU and GPU it'll be incredible.
i just bought the f18A and when i asked my parents if i could by it and i told them it was just a on i think they thought i was crazy
When is the right time to buy new hard ware? TOMORROW! Always tomorrow, when the new xxx comes.
something to note with VR you can do VR on the very low if you have a Cellphone................ and have some rudmentary headtracking........ Preferably you have a big phone. Iphone XS max. or similar in size with Good display output.... you dont need to throw alot if you wanna just try it...... and some VR solutions are all entirely standalone so your PC does not have to use much resources at all to run it. but most part if your PC plays the game fine at medium settings. you have to think about it this way. your PC can display perfectly fine on a 1800X+ -~ 900X+ size monitor. why can't it output perfectly fine to a cellphone sized display. you can typically in my experience run VR games at alot higher settings because your resolution on a VR display or headset is soo soo much smaller than your 2k 4k 8k monitors etc etc. the best VR headsets are 1080p.... putting that in perspective.
If you are going to use a controller, I'd recommend the PS4 Dualshock controller over the xbox controller. This is mainly because the PS4 controller has a touchpad in the middle of it that can be used as mouse movement which can be used for looking around the cockpit. I find using the touchpad on a ps4 controller way better than using an analog controller stick to look around as the responsiveness of movements is tied down to the analog stick speeds.
Additionally, the touchpad is also a button which can be used for a keybind or a modifier key.
I currently fly F/A 18 on the PC4 controller and have more than enough buttons for everything needed to fly and use in combat.
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Love the "cheap ass" category name!
I wish there was a way to try the game at an arcade or somewhere similar to see if you like it before splashing the cash
Great guide. New cards come out soon after a long 18 months. They should be even better.
Cap, you can save a ton and get a much better rig if you build your own computer. If you don't feel confident, I'd be happy to walk you through it. You've helped me out so much, id be more than happy to help.
Thanks
Although I don’t recommend you buy new PC hardware, with new stuff is just around the corner. If you’re dead set on getting something now or used then the facts are that Intel CPUs are dominant in gaming and DCS in particular and Nvidia are better performing also in DCS, other games this is not always the case so do your research if you play many games.
Thanks cap! Honestly, you don't really need a head tracker unless you really want to spend some money. I just used opentrack and my webcam to track my head in game and it works pretty well! But I think a good HOTAS is worth it in DCS and other sims
I have a i9 9900KS rtx2080 super, 32gb ram, track ir, with hotas warthog hotas. Offline are graphics. Online graphics are medium because the frames do a lot when playing onlline
Honestly, you're better off building a PC. They're pretty easy to build that its like building Legos but easier. Check out Gamers Nexus or Tech Deals if you want to go more in depth.
Some tips:
1.) If you're ever overwhelmed or confused, refer to your motherboards manuel.
2.) PCPartPicker is great if you're trying to see which parts are compatible or not.
3.) Get a good idea of what you're build is going to look like before you start building or even selecting parts.
My dreams are destroyed when I see how much MINIMUM a PC costs
THANK YOU! I really needed this.
: How much is the cost of a full DCS World setup?
: Yes.
Thanks for the break out!
Hello, regarding the HW where does the high expectations come from. I'm running on a Ryzen 3 3600 + GTX 1660 Super all on high for WQHD nicely.. (
FC3 is $49.99 not $15. You can get it on a sale for about $25. I'd recomend it as a starter module though because it gives you several competitive yet simple aircraft.
Also, I'd strongly recommend some form a head tracking, even over a HOTAS. It makes such a huge difference in situational awareness.
You need to listen more carefully...
You're right, I misheard what Cap said. I guess I saw FC3 for $15 in the spreadsheet and thought he was talking about it as a whole rather than individual aircraft. My bad, carry on.
Will a set of pedals will be needed?
Try and buy any of this for the prices shown... it's just not possible. HOTAS in particular are hard to come by and very expensive, as are even basically capable video cards. Double or triple the prices shown here. I know that was last july, but in March 2021 this is the state of things, and has been for several months.
Asking how much is like asking much a car costs. Do you want a rusted beater that only just works or do you want a Ferrari? I’m up to about $10,000 with another $5,000 planned this year for my setup. Others can spend a small amount and still have fun.
Have you considered the force-feedback controllers? Around $3.5k for a set of stick and pedals, but if I were you, I'd definitely go for that...
Great spreadsheet video...I cannot regain my time.
At one point I ran dcs on a stock surface 2 laptop. It got ridiculously hot.
You can run DCS on even a 5th Generation CORE i7 with 32GB DDR4 and a 2060GPU.
If you have a newer CPU like a Core i9 9900k and 32GB DDr4 with a 2070 or 2080 you are ahead of the game. DCS is not tremendously demanding, but to turn up all the settings you definitely want a Core i7 (or better) with 16GB DDR4 minimum and the best GPU you can buy. The game can scale down.
I have an i9 EXtreme with 2080Ti and 64GB DDR4.
As far as peripherals go, the best possible combination that won't empty your wallet is the Logitech pro pedals + Logiteck Saitek X56 because you want to have the split throttle $500 maximum.
If you are CASH RICH: Thrustmaster WARTHOG or COUGAR HOTAS with Thrustmaster's Pendular pedals - but you're going in the hole $1000.
VIRPIL is gonna cost more than Thrustmaster and is harder to get because of stock issues.
My current setup that actually works really damn well (for me at least). PC - 3060 Ti, Ryzen 7 3800x at 4.2ghz, 32gb Corsair ram at 3200mhz and DCS is installed on my 1tb 970 M.2. Gear - LG Ultra Gear 27inch at 1440p, Logitech X56 Hotas (Not mounted I just sit them on my desk), Track IR with pro clip (hat clip is not a good idea) and then for planes I mainly stick with the hornet and viper. My GPU is overclocked from factory and by me but that’s not that important for DCS
Tip for people on a budget who'd rather not buy a used PC, because they'd prefer some sort of quality assurance/warranty:
You can get refurbished HP professional Workstations with a one-year warranty, such as Z240, or later Z2 G4, Z4 G4s These do offer older (not: rotten) decent intel CPUs, shitloads of RAM, a quite capable power supply - unlike many "multimedia machines" that will constantly crash when you install a decent GPU for lack of power.
Found one on ebay in the UK (just first one, there are lots of sellers around) for around 450 pounds with an i7 6700 and 32gigs of ddr4 ram, SSD + 1TB HDD, no GPU. Vanilla spec with the same CPU can be had for as little as €350 where I'm from. Stick a decent GPU in there (GTX1660 and up) and you're well inside the comfortable zone IMO, for around 700 €/pounds total.
Not enough power/too old CPU for you? Pay €300 more - Z2 G4 with i7 8700, 32GB Ram, nvm SSD+2TB. That'll do.
Around €300 more, they also offered i9-9xxx versions on the same platform.
Just don't expect to be doing much overclocking on the CPU, but if you're on a budget and not into building your own machine, that's quite a solid option IMO. Also, they come with cases that doesn't look like someone inserted a bunch of 90's-rave-glowsticks into a Transformer's behind. Which is a definite plus in my book, other people's opinion might vary.
Also, most of the sellers will gladly sell you a used screen plus keyboard and mouse for peanuts, to get you started if you truly come from outside the PC world.
Finally, someone who gets it about the modern "computer cases" :)
@@getsideways7257 :) Glad we're on the same page there. Truly, why is it that everyone wants to look today like what was bad taste even in the late 1990s?
@@decnet100 Exactly. And to think that the same people would give Macs a lot of flack for their design... Although, yes, the recent "cheese-grater" is really too much in terms of "different thinking".
@@getsideways7257 Absolutely. Usually I have nothing against Macs from a design standpoint; the new cheese grater is a bit inelegant indeed IMO. Would have looked a lot better with smaller holes IMO, making it visually a bit more uniform and less "in your face!"
To be honest, I was the boring kid who liked server cases even back in school. Top extravagancy in my computer-case likings were those colorful SGI workstations :) I'd still think an Octane case would make for a nice system. Or drink cabinet :)
🙂 . I think it´s super difficult to get started with binding your buttons on the HOTAS you now have, how to use them, etc. There are lots of videos that show how in DCS, but then they don't show where on the HOTAS the specific button is or an alternative. How or which button do you press to throw a bomb, how do you access it - often it's someone who has been playing DCS for 100 years, sitting around with their mouse and talking to someone as if you know what he's talking about. I also need a "Drawing" that shows what each button does, or where to press to be able to throw the bomb, how to choose targets, how to switch to machine guns, etc. Br, the frustrated and soon-to-be former user of DCS 🙂
It should be noted that it is not really possible to build an overkill system for DCS VR. The best you can really do is "adequate." I have the fastest setup it's possible to get, and I still see reprojection quite a bit.
Hi, silly question but what does reprojection mean in regards to dcs vr? Thanks
Been wondering this! Thanks for the info!
my cheap ver is Dell G7 16 GB GTX 1060 Max Q, PXN Hotas. I am 60 yo and using it for cognitive and hand-eye training. A lot of fun too. G7 was 30$ gift, and Hotas 78$ on sale Fly the free SU 25T and start with Caps tutorial and a nice keyboard layout from beniboy on 11x17.
Much appreciated. No idea when or if I'll be in the market for any of this, but it's good to know what I'm up against.
The only Modules I would buy are the PERSIAN GULF MAP, NEVADA MAP, F-16, F/A-18 and Harrier
And I'd only buy them on STEAM sale.
Don't get it on steam, you'll always be behind.
Build your own PC instead and you'll get either cheaper with the same power factor or more powerfull for the price of any of mentioned sets. It's not that hard, just need to be gentle ;). Also currently clean DCS with all available modules takes about 210GB of disk space, and at least two maps are coming soon (20-30GB each, I would assume - Mariana Islands and Syria), so add to whatever configuration you're aiming an extra hard drive with no less than 500GB of volume for exclusive use with DCS.
Meanwhile me playing DCS on 12 GB RAM and 1050 Ti with okayish FPS costing me less than minimum range 💀
this was very useful, thank you!
DON'T BE AFRAID TO BUY AN OFF THE SHELF PC.
HP OMEN models have been offering great equipment for $1000.
UltraWide monitor will help as well. 34 - 49" 1440p monitors will cost $1000 max.
A free game were 1 plane costs the price of a full AAA game !.Wow that could get real expensive
I am thinking about buying a twcs throttler and a gladiator mk2. Do you think there is a better choise for that money range (~200 euros)?
Also, I'd recommend NOT getting the TFRP pedals with it. But you definitely need some other pedals.
All I'm really missing is a HOTAS and the software. Not sure I'd want to play this with my og vive because it might be pretty difficult to spot targets when in visual range if Growling Sidewinder's videos are anything to go by. Screen door effect is real.
I can't see your spreadsheet, can you put a link to it please?
Overkill??? Check, check, check, check, and VR... HP Reverb, check! I'm good! 😎👍
Full Disclosure: I built my system to run DCS in VR, so all said, I have spent about $7k on DCS between hardware (computer and seat w/controllers) and modules. The ironic part is that i built this for DCS, but have been so excited to try all VR has to offer, that i haven't played much DCS with it yet. Lol 🤣
Much appreciated, Cap! This will be a valuable guide for those of us wanting to earn our wings.
U dont need more ram, 32 is already overkill, spend that money somewhere else.
You do need 32GB or else the PC cant load big Missions
... Oh, the cost of building your own Cockpit Rig with real fighter aircraft parts = " WTF DID I JUST DO ! " :)
lols funny
I got 2 virpul joysticks so far, with monting brackets and bases it cost me $580 for the alpha and $700 for the alpha prime, plus brackets and mounting for keyboard and mouse and im up to $1500 just on that. No trottle or foot pedals or track ir yet and each month my pc becomes older
How much does the time away from family cost? 😅
Many thanks for an excellent video. I'm looking at starting into DCS myself and I just wanted to get your recommendations for where to buy the PC here in the UK. I noted you mentioned in the video ebuyer. I've also looked at PC specialists. Not holding you to it of course just completely in the dark as to where is the better place to go for the right kit. On the monitor side I'd also be interested in your thoughts. I'm only going for one. I've seen the Samsung curved monitors. Would you go for built in sound or just go with headphones. For me not to disturb the family too much headphones seem a good choice and my current everyday use pc has built in speakers which is my preferred option as it's nice neat and tidy.
Thanks for the break down :)
Love these videos, since it’s always changing and evolving between players 😊.
My methodology is, value of iPhone < value of laptop < value of desktop. So PC costs more than $1k.
Level to play simulators:
1) Console controller (Ace Combat 5)
2) Keyboard (Elite Dangerous/Star Citizen)
3) HOTAS (DCS/Sims)
4) Cockpit (enthusiast)
If ur looking at buying a pc don't buy a prebuilt. If ur serious for something like a sim gaming, build it urself u will save a tone of money and it will be optimal
Great info video CAP 👌
I got AITrack/OpenTrack for head tracking
Thrustmaster T.Flight Stick X (the throttle doesnt seem to be picked up but I did also put no effort into trying to make it work)
and a 8gb ram gtx 1050 ti i5-4570
if I lower to grapichs to almost minimum i can get around 80-90 fps (singleplayer)
Can anyone give me a link to a good PC for DCS? Preferably in not 100000$ range
CAP would you mind sharing your key bindings for your X56?
CAP'S X-56 HOTAS MAPS: drive.google.com/open?id=1g7op9YxNbWi8fogam0tK0yer1rRCLe7A
I wouldnt use prebuilts as a benchmark if you build your owm the 2/3000 dollar pc you looked at you could build yourself for like half the price
"Laughs in my x-box one controller"
Question to all GR/Valued Viewers, how long can you play DCS without internet service? ... And if DCS servers go down are we all screwed?
@17ll3 x214 Thanks :)
Thank you for this video.
Hi mate ! Should I upgrade from 8086k @5.2Ghz to 12900k and ddr5 memory+mobo ? I currently run dcs on 8086k and FTW3 ultra 3090 ,please I got the parts already but don't really know if return it or keep it for future proof.
your existing is better than mine
@@grimreapers most people says DCS and MSFS prefers higher clock than multicores ,I have the 8086k delid 4 years ago and it runs below 70C @ 5.2 ,I'm kind guessing that the performance gains compared to price of upgrading to 12900k will be bad ,what do you think?
Great vid but the problem with the game is the open beta and the the stable version is world apart..each module cost like a AAA game and yet so many bugs!
You don't need much brain to code an "AAA game". Sims like this are different... And before you complain, where have you seen a better offer anyway? Do you have any idea what going Prepar3d would cost you if you wanted air combat and high fidelity modules? Not to mention you'd also have to forget about "bug free" there and would be forced to pay additional $60 for every major version of it (and that's not including the upgrade fees for all your stuff when you are switching versions). Of course, you can also try Falcon BMS almost truly for free, but... You just need to see it for yourself. Not to mention, it's based on ancient software basically made up from bugs.