Gonna be honest rad. Its a good thing you didn't rank switch axe lower than charge blade, or I would have had to hunt you down... To give you a very stern talking to,
To be honest I thought you were going to place light bowgun lower. It's my favorite weapon. If not for Pierce Rapidfire and some sticky builds I feel like everyone would probably crap on it too excuse me... I appreciate how your tier list is a fun level tier list, and not a "what is absolute meta" tier list. XD For me, having tried every weapon out over a course of every Monster Hunter I've played I agree with you and Longsword. But my heart belongs to my LBG and has belonged to it since Freedom Unite. X)
Gunlance/switch axe Most Everything else Lance, bow, light bowgun I’ve tried all the weapons in mhw, I like most of them, but the bottom tier I have here just never felt right
So what, SNS is the true weapon and the lances get stuck with being the worst. Fight me on that. The pokey sticks suck. Who tf wants to poke a monster to death. I've mained almost every weapon in the Monster Hunter series but never in a million years will I go near those God awful disgraces.
Let's be real, I am a gunlance main and I love Rurikhan's channel. Whenever someone comes on his stream and says they became a gunlance main thanks to him he often will apologize for it.
I like the idea of gunlance but that weapon has no synergy with any of its own kit. There's always a portion of the kit that is absolutely useless in each version.
@@legefy False. I don’t have a switch, but in MHW you can play 3 main styles as far as builds go. You can run melee-full burst, poke, bang till empty, reload, repeat, or you can play all shelling and used charged shell attacks. I would say it’s the most advanced weapon as far as different build/play styles go
@@brandonkallhoff7879 You don't understand his comment at all. He is right, some of the moves are useless depending on the shelling type. Nobody is going to single shell and poke shell with a normal gunlance and nobody is going to use full burst with a wide Gunlance or even long. Doing so heavily reduces your DPS and they made the weapon intentionally like that, which i don't like. If you're not playing all shelling types it's always a gamble that the next weapon they introduce in the weapon tree is the shelling type you play. ''I would say it’s the most advanced weapon as far as different build/play styles go'', and on a sidenote, this is also not correct. Bowguns have far more builds and playstyles than Gunlance could ever have.
Lol. I remember trying to fit in binoculars in MHFU when I was still a kid. Trying to scout monster patterns. Spoiler: it did not give me any information whatsoever.
Yeah I kinda can't believe how much he dismissed the range weapons. For Generation 5, HBG/LBG/BG are the highest DPS in the game (though im sure you knew that).
They are the most similar to each other that any two weapons. Fade slashing through attacks isn't much different than tackling through attacks. And both need to build up to their final attack helm breaker and true/ rage slash.
Your opinion on the Lance and Gunlance is so funny to me because I remember deciding to try a weapon other than Greatsword for the first time, tried Lance, and thought to myself "okay, this is not bad", then saw the Gunlance and thought "...but what if it went BOOM" and have been in love ever since. Literally no thoughts tho
This is what I tell everyone. I’m very shitty at the weapon despite it being my main. It takes a lot of practice to do anything close to what you’ll see in a speedrun. The simplest moveset, but the hardest to pull off. Unless you dabble in CDraw like myself
@@Luca-fw4ss I don't know your playstyle, and i'm not an GS main (i'm IG main) but a true good GS main is very skillful and cool at the same time. There's a vid demonstrating it. GS mains have all my respect.
Well, the Lances mains are as rare as the the HH mains… and they like each other as "support" mains… my best friend is a HH main and he loves supports and healing everybody everywhere on the map
Man it's hard to see great sword as braindead when all the biggest plays I've enjoyed watching is when a GS has perfect positioning for fully charged hits
As a HH main i almost switched main during rise due to the murder of its mechanics. But even then my friends say I play HH wrong, I pick horns based on what I want. I support the team by killing the monster, teammates getting buffs was just a bonus.
same here. idk how to feel tbh. but im worried they see the success of how they made it appealing to almost everyone who didnt like it before and only keep it that way. The old one was weird but had some really cool ideas.
Same, I used HH at the beginning but have since moved on to using SnS, in its place, HH just lost allot of its complexity with what they did to it in Rise, it’s just not as fun to use, I can understand them wanting to try and get more people into the weapon, but did they have to nuder the main draw of the weapon which is playing a string of songs to dish out dmg to the monster, then encoring them to get a bigger boost and continue the damage, I just think they took trying to make it more accessible a bit too far.
@jzillacon While I agree that more accessibility would’ve been good, I don’t think *any* weapon should be completely reworked to the extent HH was. It’s effectively a different weapon now, and I can see that being really devastating to people who’ve been maining it for over a decade. So yes, accessibility is good. But weapons should retain their identities no matter what imo. I honestly believe this is the same as just axing the HH and replacing it with something else.
Regarding the IG (as an IG main) I completely agree with you regarding the kinsects. Especially in 4U that system was just too complex and grindy. I have to say, though, that in the fifth gen, and in particular with Rise, the kinsects upgrade system was extremely simplified. In Rise you just buy a kinsect and you’re done. No upgrades, no monster’s materials, just good ol’ money. With that, you can simply focus on choosing a kinsect for a specific hunt, without worrying about crafting and upgrading it. Also, for cutting type kinsect, the kinsect will automatically inherit the element from your glaive, and that works very well with assist type kinsects.
@@bigmilk13_ as a person that plays glaive and charge blade I agree mainly because those two aren't really as complex as people make them out to be But great sword takes a good bit of skill to use
The only thing I might argue about is that Insect Glaive should go up a tier to "do not play" because in Rise they've taken out the upgrading of kinsects, and that seemed to be your biggest issue with the weapon. If Hunting Horn is getting docked on the tier list for getting neutered in Rise, then Glaive should get a couple points for removing that issue with the weapon.
LS is super strong, I used it to beat lagacrust easily, it's such a weak and unlikeable water monster and by far the lowest tier monster, I think jyratodus is the best water monster it's $$$tier
It hurt seeing you put the insect glaive in the “is this Dauntless?” tier as an insect glaive player (World only) but I’ve watched your history video on it and I can’t say I don’t agree with how annoying kinsects seemed before gen 5. Probably one of my biggest fears of trying out the old games but it’s more of an excuse to use some of the other weapons some more, I guess.
Just watch gaijins video about how to get the perfect kinsect, its not that hard, you just need 1.000.000 only to realize that you did a miss input halfway through and start over again (that also includes farming the mats for your glaive) But seriously the IG was so op in 4u that it didnt even matter if your bug wasnt the greatest, you only need to worry about that at early g rank
I've been playing IG since MH4U, and it's been super fun the whole time. Sure, theres the whole mechanic of leveling up the insect, but even then it gets patched and explored through each game. Imo it's gotten better and better and deserves at least an Unga Bunga placing.
You lowered Hunting Horn's placing based on its Rise incarnation but then graded Insect Glaive based on its pre-Rise ones??? It's a lot more streamlined now, and pogoing off of Rakna to build up to a 600-damage dive on her face is dope and gives me the big unga bunga serotonin 😤 Signed a GenU LS Main who started seconding IG and Swaxe after grinding out the Feather of Mastery
Nah, i use it the most but it's pretty accurately rated. Usually a mess balance-wise. Somewhat fixed in each expansion whete they slap some gimmick on top after a year or so of being underwhelming. You can't blame most of the playerbase for not wanting to put up with that bs each game.
Personally my favorite weapon is the sword and shield. I absolutely love the versatility and the maneuverability you have with it. I like how well rounded it is as a weapon. While it doesn't exceed like other weapons do in specific areas, the sns is effective enough in about every situation there is. I love weaving in and out as a monster attacks to counterattack in the small openings that happen in the quicker attacks they have and I have good combos when a monster is down and vulnerable. I adore how sns is good with both status and elemental damage. While raw damage is always all you need for the hunt, I like the utility you can get from sleep or paralysis or the amount of damage that builds up from the right element or with poison or blast.
after having never played sns i picked it up in rise and loved it with the switch skills and such. my first few zinogre hunts went super easily because i was able to just stunlock him with my shield. i never knew that it could be used to do so much stun damage but i love having the ability to effectively choose to do either blunt or severing damage with one weapon
@@SuperRADLemon Also a gunlance main, I’m not the best at it but if you disregard the sharpness gauge, just go for the freelance play style and do whatever you want as that is the most fun for me. What drawed me into the weapon was the explosions, so I’m sure as heck am going to use them. I played aerial gunlance in gen u and did the jump into full burst a lot of the time, and in rise blast dash is so much fun to use. It’s not a weapon for everyone but if it still interests you a little bit, it’s worth giving it a shot I’d say.
@@SuperRADLemon Yea, devs just don’t know how to balance the thing properly at all, GL really got the short end of the stick, sure it’s fun to play, but it got completely screwed over in allot of other areas.
I agree with your assessment of the Hunting Horn changes. I used to main HH, but it’s a completely different weapon now. It took me a while to put aside my hurt feelings, but once I did, I found the new HH to be fun in its own way. It might be just a beat stick now, but maybe that’s okay. That being said, Charge Blade is objectively one of the most versatile weapons with the ability to KO monsters and cut tails without settling into a niche play style.
I got into the series because of the Insect Glaive :3 I loved having this pet companion on my arm who helped me. It felt like a pet friend you cant lose. I honestly loved the introcacy of the kinsect, too. I experimented a lot with them and used them sooo much, because I was afraid to go near the monsters for a while. I also enjoyed being able to get a good look at the monster while getting my three buffs. I was fascinated with the many options you had. I loved leveling the kinsect up to see what it evolved into next. The embarressing but funny part about that story is, that i didn't figure out the jumping mechanic until the G rank. And my mind was blown. Because suddendly I was the one mounting all the time. And i really loved that. I remember being really bummed in generations when everybody got the aerial fight style and i lost my mounting privileges to dualblades and bows a lot. It made me nearly quit because I couldnt reliable do the coolest thing in the game anymore. In rise it got a lot better for me, as the one dealing the blow that makes the monster rideable is not automatically the one who gets to mount it. (Also the cute spiders, they are awesome.) But I was sad about the Kinsects. They were just something you'd buy. And lots of them were gone until Sunbreak. I could not change their stats. The kinsects i really liked before were now no longer fitted for my playstyle. That really was a bummer. But i just stubbornly played more until i got the hang of using my favourites again. I think IG is as easy to learn as ever. You can spam combos in any order, you can jump to evade, you can jump to chase, jump to attack and can either ignore the kinsect by using an auto attacking one or use the faster ones to attack from a distance to catch a little break before getting back into combo world. Personally, the Insect Glaive and the dual blades have the most visually fascinating combat with their fluid moves and general speed. but the glaive will always win my heart because of mobility and little bug friend :3
Personally I love IG but can't get behind DB xD it's just don't working for me. Especially in rise where dB are ducking boring. You just hope and ride the back. In sunbreak You just hope, ride a back, become a blender. Ughhh
Me a gunlance main: well.. you see… you long sword players can be a bit thirsty for damage but I have to save you every time fatalis uses his flame and I have to jump infront and block it
Fun fact : I started the series with MH3 on Wii, and was so amazed by the coolness of the medium bowgun character in the box manual (RIP manuals we read for hours) that I just played the whole game with the ludroth cap maxed out just for the style, despite it quickly becoming shit in comparison to other equipement, and wrecking the combo bonus of my other updated stuff. Seeing this character 1 second back on the screen just reminded me of this "Woah a cool guy with a cool gun" I experienced as a kid, and I wanted to share it x)
Sns main whose recently taken up LS, thanks to Dear Gamer. He was right in saying that it feels like you’re dancing with the monster when using LS. DB is another weapon I’m looking forward to using more. I also use GS. Love the weapon and it’s dmg output but I tend to like the faster weapons.
Long sword Double long sword Long sword with a shield Wide long sword Pointy long sword Blunt long sword Music long sword Bang Bang long sword Long sword that transforms 1 Long sword that transforms 2 2 long swords taped together and a bug Trash ranged weapons
What seems very interesting to me in alot of the tier lists is that Lance is consistently ranked fairly high and yet it consistently ranks fairly low in usage. True it seems like there are very few people that main it but not alot of people actively hate the weapon. Loved the video!
Lance does both impact and slicing damage. It simply choses the highest weakness value to apply its damage to, but still counts as slicing damage either way. This is why weakness exploit is always good on lance.
As a hunting horn main I do agree with some points you made particularly the way rise changes the weapon to be more simple, I liked the way it was challenging and complex to use. Great video can’t wait to see more in the feature
It may seem kinda lame, but I like the IG in older gens because of the Kinsect. It's a living creature, so it feels like it would need nectars and stuff to get stronger. That's why I was surprised when you could just buy Kinsects in Rise.
I immediately realized this is more of a personal list, and I thoroughly enjoyed it. I fell in love with Insect glaive going into World from Freedom Unite, but then I got tired of kinsect uptime. My personal fun for the weapon died pretty fast because the kinsect felt more like a chore since it felt mandatory to keep up DPS. You can arguably say the same thing for my favorite weapon of all time, charge blade, but a reward for whipping out a ultra that KOs the monster feels like a huge nut rather than upkeeping a red kinsect moveset upgrade.
When I picked up HH as my second weapon (after bow) in MH3U, I thought it had a steep learning curve due to to amount of note combinations for each 4-7 songs. I was a corner-horn for awhile because I felt I had to memorize each song, but you really only need 2 or 3 if you have a utility song (cold/heat cancel). Now I'm actively able to hit the monsters but trying to learn monster patterns while trying to remember all the songs I think is what causes new HH players to play like I did
the amount of times i’ve tried to get a 1k plus damage combo with my hammer on a knocked monster and a long sword user comes over and messes me up just by trynna fill there gauge is insane
I love Gunlance, but I 100% agree that shelling being underpowered as all hell is the worst part of the weapon, and it's only been getting worse with time. Shelling damage just needs to be completely reworked to be based on a weapon's raw instead of a fixed amount determined by a level. Also for the love of god add elemental/status shells
You can like the Trip Sword all you want, but don't try and tell me that it has the highest skill ceiling. That title belongs to the Great Sword, I will accept no arguments
LS absolutely has the highest skill ceiling. Learning when to counter each monster - and when not to, and when to switch from one counter to another - is more challenging than learning when you're safe to charge up.
I use insect glaive, and personally I love it, I can dodge monsters by launching myself, and hit them midair, and I dont mind kinsects because I use blast on mine, and I do a lot of damage, also helps with buffs. You just need to train a lot to use it 😭
I like where you put the dual blades. And ill take this tier list even though i disagree with everything else because i like where you put the dual blades.
Did you play MHGU's Valor HBG, it's one of the best weapons imo (and probably the most OP mainline serires weapon :)). I usually prefer HBG to LBG because mobility of HBG makes it less boring because you need to concentrate more and make more attention at how you move.
You will be rewarded handsomely for having IG in 4U by having your hands on one of the top 2 highest damage weapons in that game. Seriously, IG was op in 4U. One of, if not the only weapon that made Capcom so scared that they nerfed a weapon.
Gunlance user here, I agree with you when it comes to shelling. It's an absolute shame that the most damaging way to use the weapon is forgoing it's main feature.
Thinking about it, insect glaive actually could just be a glaive without the kinsect and would still be just as balanced since getting the buffs takes 3 seconds, but I dont understand how that can ruin a weapon that hard for someone
Tbh it's not that much more grinding for the upgrades for the kinsect. More than likely you'll be fighting every monster quite few times and by then you'll have the necessary materials. Also the second I saw that you could fly through the air with that weapon was the beginning of the end for me.
@@branflakes523 well yes, its still the greatest weapon, I personally dont mind the bug and with the assist type in rise, the damage it deals is not to be underestimated, but its actually kinda weird that we get stronger through some weird bug juice
For me the most satisfying thing for me is landing a hit with a great sword and flinching, or breaking a part of a monster while the monster is in the middle of an attack,
I have been trying really hard to enjoy other weapons as well but sns is just too good. Its huge variety of moves often leaves me with the impression that other weapons are basically just spamming 1-3 moves and that's it. Also the great mobility and possibility to use items instantly is something you don't appreciate until you loose it. And you don't need to deal with any kind of charging or preparation. Your weapon is ready the moment you draw your sword. The only disadvantage is its short reach which on the other hand makes the hunt to feel more personal. My only regret is the poor balance that turned it into Shield and Sword/fast hammer. Spamming Shield Bash combo followed by Spinning Reaper and Metsu every now and then isn't playstyle I personally enjoy and would love to see some improvements in the Master Rank to bring sword on pair with the shield. Hopefuly elemental damage overall will see some improvements.
I loooooove Sns for all the reasons you’ve stated above. It’s a Jack of all trades. You don’t have to worry about any gauges or meters and it doesn’t require any additional skills to make it good. Plus it’s nice and compact. I like being able to see my character and not have some big ass weapon blocking my character and her huge badunk. Sns main to the core but have dabbled a little into LS, thanks to Dear Gamer haha.
As a Gunlance main, I really wish they'd bring back the heat gauge. Staying in red heat with proper shelling management was awesome for the damage boost and as you were essentially juggling melee attacks and shelling attacks to keep it up and then using wyverns fire to lock in there for a while. It also led to the Dragon's Breath Hunter Art that I love for the sheer badassery of.
Was laughing when you put both my mains in bottom tier XD Not sure how you couldn't love a full burst combo with a normal GL and artillery 5. A blessed weapon. Iceborne made it even better with the doubled shots from the slinger ammo. Absolutely bonkers damage output.
Out of all of them, I’d say heavy bow gun is the one weapon I just can’t for the life of me get into. I’ve tried and tried and just couldn’t have fun with it.
As a Charge Blade main in 4U, I chose it because it felt the most natural to me. Now, going back to other weapons, I’ve been able to pick them up pretty easily (except for Greatsword and a few others). It truly is one of the best weapons to play if you want to have something that you can never stop learning with.
Man, I got destroyed by your IG placement. For me it has always been an incredible experience whenever I vault over an attack and feel like goku UI. Also, its insanely funny when you kill a monster with the kinsect accidentally. Said by an IG main since 4u.
Yeah, I completely agree with you, in old gens monsters barely touched me, but now it's like I started learning from the bottom lmao, you need to learn the moveset and how to position to counter the monster the most effectively
I can't speak to older gens than World but Insect Glaive is just below Long Sword to me. Chasing a monster into the sky or dodging something with a perfect hop feels great. The insect mechanic with buffs... Sometimes the areas you have to hit are designed poorly and the insects shouldn't have an extensive upgrade tree, but it's enjoyable overall
Just want to point out, that 7 months later.... This is still the most objective tier list ever created and all the information remains 100% accurate, even if there were some changes to the weapons. Congratulations sir, you are incredible. A heathen who mains LBG and IG rn :) lmao EDIT: Though I think we need to talk about the Kunai at some point. Legit weapon with its own specific food buff in the cantina.
Love my greatsword big sword making big number makes brain happy also something about how methodical and slow you have to play just makes those big meaty hits feel so satisfying
GL in lowest tier, time to cry. But seriously trying to use the GL in GU is really weird because of that heat gauge. Not to mention that in rise it got another shelling nerf just because and now you have to use a wirebug move with a long cooldown just to get that damage back. I dont think the developers know that the weapon really isnt that OP in the first place. Still going to use it though because I’m just built different idk.
Do they usually give you the long sword first in MH games? I've only played a few of them, and Rise is the first one in years. I don't remember being given a LS first before, as I'm sure it'sa more difficult to use weapon, right? or am I thinking of a bigger sword? I'm thinking of the very slow one. PS: I like the hammer, I like to smack stuff in the head. I played hammer almost exclusively in World. PPS: i think I'm going to try playing switch axe in rise. I only just got it for PC, so not played it much yet, still just in the hub after talking to a million people... btw does that looping song ever stop in the hub? I wish they just took the vocals out, it would be way more bearable. EDIT: glad you put my hammer up there, that's the one. Monster ball on a stick.
“Longsword is no longer known as the weapon that trips” lol keep telling yourself that man. HH placement seem about right, the weapon is great in Rise but I feel with their attempt to make it more accessible, they took away allot of what made the weapon what it was. Gunlance, while I love the weapon got the shortest end of the stick in Rise, the devs just don’t seem to either care, or they just don’t know how to balance the weapon properly, it was in a better state in World/Iceborne but that isn’t saying much. As far as Longsword is concerned, I think the spot that it’s in is about right, BUT I do feel like it can do everything and has few downsides which IMO just isn’t good, thing could stand to be tweaked a bit as to where it’s not just hands down better than most of the other weapon choices outside of the LBG, but really weapon balance in general could be allot better in Rise, but that’s a whole other conversation.
The gunlance section is absolutely true we have 6 level 4 shelling gunlances and the rampage gun lance pretty much outclassed the others. The balancing is also abysmal
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Any list that doesn't put SnS in at least A-tier is clearly an unobjective list
Gonna be honest rad. Its a good thing you didn't rank switch axe lower than charge blade, or I would have had to hunt you down...
To give you a very stern talking to,
is this dauntless: ig
me but why
1) u bounce
2) u have a bug
3) it is the godliest of weapons
4) what in the name of hell are u talking about
To be honest I thought you were going to place light bowgun lower. It's my favorite weapon. If not for Pierce Rapidfire and some sticky builds I feel like everyone would probably crap on it too excuse me...
I appreciate how your tier list is a fun level tier list, and not a "what is absolute meta" tier list. XD
For me, having tried every weapon out over a course of every Monster Hunter I've played I agree with you and Longsword. But my heart belongs to my LBG and has belonged to it since Freedom Unite. X)
BS All weapons are good
personally greatsword, insect glaive, and longsword are the best.
The TRUEST Weapon Tier List is 3 tiers:
Your Main
Every Weapon
The one or two weapons you don't like
truth and real
Swag axe
Every weapon
Longsword & insect glave
Gunlance/switch axe
Most Everything else
Lance, bow, light bowgun
I’ve tried all the weapons in mhw, I like most of them, but the bottom tier I have here just never felt right
So what, SNS is the true weapon and the lances get stuck with being the worst.
Fight me on that. The pokey sticks suck. Who tf wants to poke a monster to death. I've mained almost every weapon in the Monster Hunter series but never in a million years will I go near those God awful disgraces.
Swag Axe, Light Dakka Dakka, Sns
Every thing else
Longswore and Bow
Let's be real, I am a gunlance main and I love Rurikhan's channel. Whenever someone comes on his stream and says they became a gunlance main thanks to him he often will apologize for it.
LOL
Because you use a gun lance I must assume that you don’t really exist
I like the idea of gunlance but that weapon has no synergy with any of its own kit. There's always a portion of the kit that is absolutely useless in each version.
@@legefy False. I don’t have a switch, but in MHW you can play 3 main styles as far as builds go. You can run melee-full burst, poke, bang till empty, reload, repeat, or you can play all shelling and used charged shell attacks. I would say it’s the most advanced weapon as far as different build/play styles go
@@brandonkallhoff7879 You don't understand his comment at all. He is right, some of the moves are useless depending on the shelling type. Nobody is going to single shell and poke shell with a normal gunlance and nobody is going to use full burst with a wide Gunlance or even long. Doing so heavily reduces your DPS and they made the weapon intentionally like that, which i don't like. If you're not playing all shelling types it's always a gamble that the next weapon they introduce in the weapon tree is the shelling type you play.
''I would say it’s the most advanced weapon as far as different build/play styles go'', and on a sidenote, this is also not correct. Bowguns have far more builds and playstyles than Gunlance could ever have.
S tier: Boomerang
SS tier: Torch
SS+ tier: Binoculars
Lol. I remember trying to fit in binoculars in MHFU when I was still a kid. Trying to scout monster patterns. Spoiler: it did not give me any information whatsoever.
SSS+ tier: Stone
X Tier: MHFU Palico
Torch is for the real bad boys
Where is kick
Bow? Can confirm a support weapon. Supports how fast the monster is die with best big pp dps
Not gonna lie tho, bows are basically a point blank shotgun
@@ShatteredGlass916 that's exactly why I love them, and why Spread is Best
Yeah I kinda can't believe how much he dismissed the range weapons. For Generation 5, HBG/LBG/BG are the highest DPS in the game (though im sure you knew that).
Maybe a I Will try it. I come from mh 2 and 3 where Range weapons are trash for solo, and just support.
@@nicolasmariogalaxy In this generation Bow is one of the highest DPS weapons and all weapons are viable for solo
Why use LONG sword when you can use GREAT sword
The Name literally tells you that its greater
Agree
Why use a long sword when you can use two?!
They are the most similar to each other that any two weapons. Fade slashing through attacks isn't much different than tackling through attacks. And both need to build up to their final attack helm breaker and true/ rage slash.
But one tells you that your great. The other is the same length as the other but seems to be its defining feature.
Your opinion on the Lance and Gunlance is so funny to me because I remember deciding to try a weapon other than Greatsword for the first time, tried Lance, and thought to myself "okay, this is not bad", then saw the Gunlance and thought "...but what if it went BOOM" and have been in love ever since. Literally no thoughts tho
@Idiotic_impulsesdidn’t read a single word
Funny boom
I find you lack of appreciation of the great sword disturbing. It is the gentleman's choice for DPS.
True
GS being called braindead is genuinely baffling to me, lining up multiple TCS in a row is the most big brain stuff in all of monster hunter
He mains longsword what'd you expect
This is what I tell everyone. I’m very shitty at the weapon despite it being my main. It takes a lot of practice to do anything close to what you’ll see in a speedrun. The simplest moveset, but the hardest to pull off. Unless you dabble in CDraw like myself
Yeah it actually has the highest skill ceiling in the game many would argue. I mean Super dismissed the bow completely too...
But gs is kinda branded, source : ima gs main. Especially when you go old world, but its simplicity is why I like it.
@@Luca-fw4ss I don't know your playstyle, and i'm not an GS main (i'm IG main) but a true good GS main is very skillful and cool at the same time. There's a vid demonstrating it. GS mains have all my respect.
I was ready to see Lance anywhere on this tier because nobody remembers the thing exists.
I perform better with the lance than I do any other weapon, and even I still forget it exists sometimes
I played Iceborne again since 3 months ago and the amount of Hunters I seen using Lance can be counted with only one hand.
Well, the Lances mains are as rare as the the HH mains… and they like each other as "support" mains… my best friend is a HH main and he loves supports and healing everybody everywhere on the map
Lance? What’s a lance? I remember all 13 main MH weapons, what on earth is a lance
I started playing a week ago and I am lance main and the only thing I have to say is *POKE*
Man it's hard to see great sword as braindead when all the biggest plays I've enjoyed watching is when a GS has perfect positioning for fully charged hits
Baseball simulator
i actually agree and i think if anything dual blades is a lot more unga bunga braindead mashing with great dps output for little risk…
He mains longsword what'd you expect
@@osvaldoprado9906 damn gottem
@@osvaldoprado9906 cope and seethe
"I would never actually suggest to someone to try out Heavy Bowgun."
Me, a HBG main: "Same."
same bro
In bloody tears, saddened by my own words: "Same."
I was with you for the most part....then 19:00 happened. Now my heart is broken *pulls out Insect Glaive and flys away*
Same. SuperRAD, never speak to me or my insect son again.
As a HH main i almost switched main during rise due to the murder of its mechanics. But even then my friends say I play HH wrong, I pick horns based on what I want. I support the team by killing the monster, teammates getting buffs was just a bonus.
same here. idk how to feel tbh. but im worried they see the success of how they made it appealing to almost everyone who didnt like it before and only keep it that way. The old one was weird but had some really cool ideas.
Same, I used HH at the beginning but have since moved on to using SnS, in its place, HH just lost allot of its complexity with what they did to it in Rise, it’s just not as fun to use, I can understand them wanting to try and get more people into the weapon, but did they have to nuder the main draw of the weapon which is playing a string of songs to dish out dmg to the monster, then encoring them to get a bigger boost and continue the damage, I just think they took trying to make it more accessible a bit too far.
@jzillacon While I agree that more accessibility would’ve been good, I don’t think *any* weapon should be completely reworked to the extent HH was. It’s effectively a different weapon now, and I can see that being really devastating to people who’ve been maining it for over a decade.
So yes, accessibility is good. But weapons should retain their identities no matter what imo. I honestly believe this is the same as just axing the HH and replacing it with something else.
Simple solution....add the old style in the expansion. Make the buffs stronger for the old style
I despise the braindead rise horn
"Official Capcom endorsed tier list"
--> Longsword top tier
--> Gunlance bottom tier
Yep, seems about right to me.
Both my mains lol
Capcom wants to get rid of us but they can’t. I love me Gunlance
TT_TT
Every weapon has it's own mechanics and uses sure long sword is powerful but so is every other weapon when you know how to use it
@@rayovac200 Gunlance forever! Lets blast some blokes bois!
Regarding the IG (as an IG main) I completely agree with you regarding the kinsects. Especially in 4U that system was just too complex and grindy. I have to say, though, that in the fifth gen, and in particular with Rise, the kinsects upgrade system was extremely simplified. In Rise you just buy a kinsect and you’re done. No upgrades, no monster’s materials, just good ol’ money. With that, you can simply focus on choosing a kinsect for a specific hunt, without worrying about crafting and upgrading it. Also, for cutting type kinsect, the kinsect will automatically inherit the element from your glaive, and that works very well with assist type kinsects.
Sounds like they're in a really good spot rn
@@SuperRADLemon they are... SO WHY DID YO-
@@GrievyRZ bcoz he only plays LS and has no experience with modern IG lol
@@krakenattackin7617 💀swagaxee main here I gotta say it’s annoying asf when I get the final discharge on the head for a longsword user to destroy it 😭
I feel like the grindy kinsect system from mhw would've been fine if there was another weapon that could utilize kinsects
'Definitely the one with the highest skill ceiling'
LS Mains: Haha counter go brrrrr
I feel like Greatsword, without a doubt, has the highest skill ceiling. That's kinda it's thing...
@@bigmilk13_ Maybe you're right, but this is a youtube comments section, so you are wrong and biased. I win, bye bye
@@MaddenedInvader damn! foiled again!
@@bigmilk13_ I'll admit it, it was the greatest trick I ever did
@@bigmilk13_ as a person that plays glaive and charge blade I agree mainly because those two aren't really as complex as people make them out to be
But great sword takes a good bit of skill to use
My heart broke when he put the insect glave in dauntless 😢
Finally, someone appreciates Lance.
Longsword mains explaining why they only play solo (They really just don’t have friends)
Confirm!
True, i'd rather play solo than with randoms, at least when playing solo if you cart/fail the quest it's 100% your fault
@@jhoelicequintero9926 i dont play it that that often but every time I do its always fun
😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
"Hammer is the knockout king." *laughs in sticky ammo*
Ok ok u right
The Chad Hammer swing vs the Virgin trigger pull from a distance
*laughs in pre Iceborne bow*
Imagine playing ranged weapons without armor with half defense
@@mtgleam8723 Imagine playing sticky and reducing both fun and effort to zero.
The only thing I might argue about is that Insect Glaive should go up a tier to "do not play" because in Rise they've taken out the upgrading of kinsects, and that seemed to be your biggest issue with the weapon. If Hunting Horn is getting docked on the tier list for getting neutered in Rise, then Glaive should get a couple points for removing that issue with the weapon.
I was thinking the same thing, he completely ignored the changes they gave to the kinsects in rise
Agreed. The extract mechanic is what kept me from using insect glaive in 4th gen and in MHGU.
This post is supported by the insect glaive gang
If it wasn't for IG, I would have never gotten into this game series.
Sooo as the drg of MH how does it feel knowing that you can't jump to your death
LS is super strong, I used it to beat lagacrust easily, it's such a weak and unlikeable water monster and by far the lowest tier monster, I think jyratodus is the best water monster it's $$$tier
speak ur truth king
@??? pg3d no that's not how you spell it. It's lageiacust
@??? pg3d no it's definitely laggyctus
@??? pg3d nooo
@??? pg3d Lagooncrust
Buddy mains long sword and called half of these braindead💀
These takes are so hot they transcend any form of temperature, ascended takes, sigma takes if you will
Sigma nuts
But let's be real, nothing's honestly more Unga Bunga than the Hammer.
As an hammer main I can confirm it's true
I hate that I agree with this bruh
Ah yes I be unga bunga
Nothing more satisfying than KOing Alatreon out of sky mode in 3U with a golf swing
I sort of hate how few fancy options that weapon has.
It hurt seeing you put the insect glaive in the “is this Dauntless?” tier as an insect glaive player (World only) but I’ve watched your history video on it and I can’t say I don’t agree with how annoying kinsects seemed before gen 5. Probably one of my biggest fears of trying out the old games but it’s more of an excuse to use some of the other weapons some more, I guess.
Before gen 4 what IG was introduced in gen 4 lul
@@legendredux1291 5*, damn you typos…
Just watch gaijins video about how to get the perfect kinsect, its not that hard, you just need 1.000.000 only to realize that you did a miss input halfway through and start over again (that also includes farming the mats for your glaive)
But seriously the IG was so op in 4u that it didnt even matter if your bug wasnt the greatest, you only need to worry about that at early g rank
You will be rewarded handsomely by having your hands on the top 2 highest damage weapons in that game. Seriously, IG was op in 4U
I've been playing IG since MH4U, and it's been super fun the whole time. Sure, theres the whole mechanic of leveling up the insect, but even then it gets patched and explored through each game. Imo it's gotten better and better and deserves at least an Unga Bunga placing.
You lowered Hunting Horn's placing based on its Rise incarnation but then graded Insect Glaive based on its pre-Rise ones??? It's a lot more streamlined now, and pogoing off of Rakna to build up to a 600-damage dive on her face is dope and gives me the big unga bunga serotonin 😤 Signed a GenU LS Main who started seconding IG and Swaxe after grinding out the Feather of Mastery
Yeah I honestly think that's a fair point and a mistake on my part. I'd probably move IG up one tier.
insect glaive gets dumpstered again 😔
SuperTad: This (the hammer) is the best weapon for KO'ing monsters.
Me with 20 KO's running sticky lbg:LOOK AT ME. I AM THE HAMMER NOW
The gunlance is the most misunderstood and underrated weapon. It has incredible potential and I love it to death.
Gunlance chads rise up
Nah, i use it the most but it's pretty accurately rated. Usually a mess balance-wise. Somewhat fixed in each expansion whete they slap some gimmick on top after a year or so of being underwhelming. You can't blame most of the playerbase for not wanting to put up with that bs each game.
@@jor8025 gun lance is the best offense and defense weapon(people are definatly gonna be mad)
Funny as hell to fly around with it in rise, but goddamn does it suck. Homie is definitely huffing copium.
Personally my favorite weapon is the sword and shield. I absolutely love the versatility and the maneuverability you have with it. I like how well rounded it is as a weapon. While it doesn't exceed like other weapons do in specific areas, the sns is effective enough in about every situation there is. I love weaving in and out as a monster attacks to counterattack in the small openings that happen in the quicker attacks they have and I have good combos when a monster is down and vulnerable. I adore how sns is good with both status and elemental damage. While raw damage is always all you need for the hunt, I like the utility you can get from sleep or paralysis or the amount of damage that builds up from the right element or with poison or blast.
@@juicypineapple6995 I've been thinking about giving swax a full playthrough after I used it a few times but I will Def try it next playthrough
May JoCat bless this person
same here with sns ive mained the weapon since mh4u i always try new weapons and branch out but i always just end up back at sns
after having never played sns i picked it up in rise and loved it with the switch skills and such. my first few zinogre hunts went super easily because i was able to just stunlock him with my shield. i never knew that it could be used to do so much stun damage but i love having the ability to effectively choose to do either blunt or severing damage with one weapon
I rate this two longswords out of 4 hammers.
Nice pfp 😉
@@revthescatman137 ayyy, a man of culture I see
My favourite weapon probably would be the gunlance in Generations Ultimate, with the heat gauge mechanic
Mmm, yes, an intellectuals choice
Saying the gunlance is mid is cool until I deal 300 damage in an 8 second combo while sitting behind an impenetrable wall at HR 14
Why would you be surprised with the lance? I've said it's a solid weapon. Simple, effective, and fun all in one.
I see it like you, but there is 1 game I don't use lance. It's freedom 1.
Putting switch axe in the me? Teir already makes this list the most correct
He massacred my poor child Gunlance how dare you?
I just don't find it fun and I think the devs have an awful time with it overall
@@SuperRADLemon but you like Lance... it's just upgraded version poke,poke,blast,blast..... EXPLOSION
@@SuperRADLemon Also a gunlance main, I’m not the best at it but if you disregard the sharpness gauge, just go for the freelance play style and do whatever you want as that is the most fun for me. What drawed me into the weapon was the explosions, so I’m sure as heck am going to use them. I played aerial gunlance in gen u and did the jump into full burst a lot of the time, and in rise blast dash is so much fun to use. It’s not a weapon for everyone but if it still interests you a little bit, it’s worth giving it a shot I’d say.
Gunlance is like the MH series. Many try it and don’t like it at first, then come to realize it was your one and only true love.
@@SuperRADLemon Yea, devs just don’t know how to balance the thing properly at all, GL really got the short end of the stick, sure it’s fun to play, but it got completely screwed over in allot of other areas.
I agree with your assessment of the Hunting Horn changes. I used to main HH, but it’s a completely different weapon now. It took me a while to put aside my hurt feelings, but once I did, I found the new HH to be fun in its own way. It might be just a beat stick now, but maybe that’s okay. That being said, Charge Blade is objectively one of the most versatile weapons with the ability to KO monsters and cut tails without settling into a niche play style.
Both my mains are in "Is This Dauntless?"
Super, you've just made an enemy for life because of your opinion on two weapons in a video game
the funny part is that both of them are basically merged together in dauntless as the war pike
I got into the series because of the Insect Glaive :3
I loved having this pet companion on my arm who helped me. It felt like a pet friend you cant lose. I honestly loved the introcacy of the kinsect, too. I experimented a lot with them and used them sooo much, because I was afraid to go near the monsters for a while. I also enjoyed being able to get a good look at the monster while getting my three buffs. I was fascinated with the many options you had. I loved leveling the kinsect up to see what it evolved into next. The embarressing but funny part about that story is, that i didn't figure out the jumping mechanic until the G rank. And my mind was blown. Because suddendly I was the one mounting all the time. And i really loved that.
I remember being really bummed in generations when everybody got the aerial fight style and i lost my mounting privileges to dualblades and bows a lot. It made me nearly quit because I couldnt reliable do the coolest thing in the game anymore.
In rise it got a lot better for me, as the one dealing the blow that makes the monster rideable is not automatically the one who gets to mount it. (Also the cute spiders, they are awesome.) But I was sad about the Kinsects. They were just something you'd buy. And lots of them were gone until Sunbreak. I could not change their stats. The kinsects i really liked before were now no longer fitted for my playstyle. That really was a bummer. But i just stubbornly played more until i got the hang of using my favourites again. I think IG is as easy to learn as ever. You can spam combos in any order, you can jump to evade, you can jump to chase, jump to attack and can either ignore the kinsect by using an auto attacking one or use the faster ones to attack from a distance to catch a little break before getting back into combo world. Personally, the Insect Glaive and the dual blades have the most visually fascinating combat with their fluid moves and general speed. but the glaive will always win my heart because of mobility and little bug friend :3
Personally I love IG but can't get behind DB xD it's just don't working for me. Especially in rise where dB are ducking boring. You just hope and ride the back. In sunbreak You just hope, ride a back, become a blender. Ughhh
IG in Rise was so good
Especially powder vortex and the assist type kinsects
The auto kinsect upgrade is a mixed bag for me
Me a gunlance main: well.. you see… you long sword players can be a bit thirsty for damage but I have to save you every time fatalis uses his flame and I have to jump infront and block it
pov: long sword main discusses how every other weapon is bad because they arent easy to use
Ah yes, Long swords mechanical shift from: Boring Great Sword ➡️ Better Lance
Fun fact : I started the series with MH3 on Wii, and was so amazed by the coolness of the medium bowgun character in the box manual (RIP manuals we read for hours) that I just played the whole game with the ludroth cap maxed out just for the style, despite it quickly becoming shit in comparison to other equipement, and wrecking the combo bonus of my other updated stuff.
Seeing this character 1 second back on the screen just reminded me of this "Woah a cool guy with a cool gun" I experienced as a kid, and I wanted to share it x)
Sns main whose recently taken up LS, thanks to Dear Gamer. He was right in saying that it feels like you’re dancing with the monster when using LS. DB is another weapon I’m looking forward to using more. I also use GS. Love the weapon and it’s dmg output but I tend to like the faster weapons.
I'm a gunlance main that occasionally plays bug stick... I 100% came here to hear my taste questioned.
I used to be a binocular main in 3u, but since World put an ungodly amount of hours into mastering the capture net
You legend.
Long sword
Double long sword
Long sword with a shield
Wide long sword
Pointy long sword
Blunt long sword
Music long sword
Bang Bang long sword
Long sword that transforms 1
Long sword that transforms 2
2 long swords taped together and a bug
Trash ranged weapons
What seems very interesting to me in alot of the tier lists is that Lance is consistently ranked fairly high and yet it consistently ranks fairly low in usage. True it seems like there are very few people that main it but not alot of people actively hate the weapon. Loved the video!
I think it’s because once they try it they like it but don’t want to admit it. Happened to me, but now I openly main Lance lol
Here is my list:
SNS tier: SNS
Not SNS tier: everything else
But can the SNS turn into and axe tho?
@@deltacroissant2009 good point. No, but I'll let you know when I need some firewood chopped ;)
@@DavySilverwind You’ll always need something chopped with how dull the SNS is.
@@deltacroissant2009 no worries, that's where the shield bash comes in!
@@DavySilverwind Please, I’ve seen an acorn do more blunt damage.
For LS haters
Every time he says Longsword just call out your favourite weapon.
Lance does both impact and slicing damage. It simply choses the highest weakness value to apply its damage to, but still counts as slicing damage either way. This is why weakness exploit is always good on lance.
As a hunting horn main I do agree with some points you made particularly the way rise changes the weapon to be more simple, I liked the way it was challenging and complex to use. Great video can’t wait to see more in the feature
I agree with the tier list except for the insect glaive. The required grind for the kinsect never was a problem for me, honestly.
8:52 "Dual blades are so fast and fluid"
Me, a DB main: *laughs in being locked into blade dance while the monster is now 5 kilometers away*
"The small minority of people that play Hunting Horn" Wait I'm not the only one?
Certainly not anymore lol. I kinda miss it being a super niche weapon
the monhun drone: pick longsword, stack crit and attack, go fight teostra multiple times
It may seem kinda lame, but I like the IG in older gens because of the Kinsect. It's a living creature, so it feels like it would need nectars and stuff to get stronger. That's why I was surprised when you could just buy Kinsects in Rise.
I immediately realized this is more of a personal list, and I thoroughly enjoyed it. I fell in love with Insect glaive going into World from Freedom Unite, but then I got tired of kinsect uptime. My personal fun for the weapon died pretty fast because the kinsect felt more like a chore since it felt mandatory to keep up DPS. You can arguably say the same thing for my favorite weapon of all time, charge blade, but a reward for whipping out a ultra that KOs the monster feels like a huge nut rather than upkeeping a red kinsect moveset upgrade.
When I picked up HH as my second weapon (after bow) in MH3U, I thought it had a steep learning curve due to to amount of note combinations for each 4-7 songs. I was a corner-horn for awhile because I felt I had to memorize each song, but you really only need 2 or 3 if you have a utility song (cold/heat cancel). Now I'm actively able to hit the monsters but trying to learn monster patterns while trying to remember all the songs I think is what causes new HH players to play like I did
the amount of times i’ve tried to get a 1k plus damage combo with my hammer on a knocked monster and a long sword user comes over and messes me up just by trynna fill there gauge is insane
Don't worry I bet we will be getting those 1000+ combos for you now :)
I love Gunlance, but I 100% agree that shelling being underpowered as all hell is the worst part of the weapon, and it's only been getting worse with time.
Shelling damage just needs to be completely reworked to be based on a weapon's raw instead of a fixed amount determined by a level. Also for the love of god add elemental/status shells
You can like the Trip Sword all you want, but don't try and tell me that it has the highest skill ceiling. That title belongs to the Great Sword, I will accept no arguments
GS mains holding down a button while HH mains learn a whole song to play a game
@@mtgleam8723 it's not about holding down a button, it's about WHEN to hold down said button
Having a hard time getting the timing for GS and calling it skill-ceiling, aye?
Hold my Chargeblade, Bro
@@bigmilk13_ I know and agree, just a little joke.
LS absolutely has the highest skill ceiling. Learning when to counter each monster - and when not to, and when to switch from one counter to another - is more challenging than learning when you're safe to charge up.
If long sword is so good then why didn't they make a long sword 2?
Long sword is great sword 2 and you can't change my mind.
I use insect glaive, and personally I love it, I can dodge monsters by launching myself, and hit them midair, and I dont mind kinsects because I use blast on mine, and I do a lot of damage, also helps with buffs. You just need to train a lot to use it 😭
I like where you put the dual blades. And ill take this tier list even though i disagree with everything else because i like where you put the dual blades.
Did you play MHGU's Valor HBG, it's one of the best weapons imo (and probably the most OP mainline serires weapon :)).
I usually prefer HBG to LBG because mobility of HBG makes it less boring because you need to concentrate more and make more attention at how you move.
You will be rewarded handsomely for having IG in 4U by having your hands on one of the top 2 highest damage weapons in that game. Seriously, IG was op in 4U. One of, if not the only weapon that made Capcom so scared that they nerfed a weapon.
If you like to be tossed around like a ragdoll for 15 minutes straight play Greatsword casually, if you can get good at it it's a godly weapon.
Agree with Charge Blade's position .... it's satisfying
Well, based on where you put the insect blade, I now cannot show this video to my wife:p
Gunlance user here, I agree with you when it comes to shelling. It's an absolute shame that the most damaging way to use the weapon is forgoing it's main feature.
I 100% agree with the HBG take. I just couldn’t find the fun in spamming RT/ZR until the monster dies
Gotta love me a good (OBJECTIVELY) tier list. Eyup.
Thinking about it, insect glaive actually could just be a glaive without the kinsect and would still be just as balanced since getting the buffs takes 3 seconds, but I dont understand how that can ruin a weapon that hard for someone
Tbh it's not that much more grinding for the upgrades for the kinsect. More than likely you'll be fighting every monster quite few times and by then you'll have the necessary materials.
Also the second I saw that you could fly through the air with that weapon was the beginning of the end for me.
@@branflakes523 well yes, its still the greatest weapon, I personally dont mind the bug and with the assist type in rise, the damage it deals is not to be underestimated, but its actually kinda weird that we get stronger through some weird bug juice
>Insert long intricate roast about how he wants monsters to "have a taste of his long sword"
I was ready to send you a bunch curses but then I saw Hammer that high in the tier list coming from LS main. Very good! You are learning.
I started using hunting horn as my main weapon in world. Then rise came along and crushed my enjoyment of the weapon.
not sure what world you live in where long sword has the highest skill ceiling out of all weapons lmao
This one
For me the most satisfying thing for me is landing a hit with a great sword and flinching, or breaking a part of a monster while the monster is in the middle of an attack,
🤤
@@greebrotf8724 yeah
ah yes the long sword. the easy mode. just go for the tail and stay away from the head. ty
But instead too many LS players go for the head and stagger the Hammer players
I have been trying really hard to enjoy other weapons as well but sns is just too good. Its huge variety of moves often leaves me with the impression that other weapons are basically just spamming 1-3 moves and that's it. Also the great mobility and possibility to use items instantly is something you don't appreciate until you loose it. And you don't need to deal with any kind of charging or preparation. Your weapon is ready the moment you draw your sword.
The only disadvantage is its short reach which on the other hand makes the hunt to feel more personal.
My only regret is the poor balance that turned it into Shield and Sword/fast hammer. Spamming Shield Bash combo followed by Spinning Reaper and Metsu every now and then isn't playstyle I personally enjoy and would love to see some improvements in the Master Rank to bring sword on pair with the shield. Hopefuly elemental damage overall will see some improvements.
I loooooove Sns for all the reasons you’ve stated above. It’s a Jack of all trades. You don’t have to worry about any gauges or meters and it doesn’t require any additional skills to make it good. Plus it’s nice and compact. I like being able to see my character and not have some big ass weapon blocking my character and her huge badunk. Sns main to the core but have dabbled a little into LS, thanks to Dear Gamer haha.
As a Gunlance main, I really wish they'd bring back the heat gauge. Staying in red heat with proper shelling management was awesome for the damage boost and as you were essentially juggling melee attacks and shelling attacks to keep it up and then using wyverns fire to lock in there for a while. It also led to the Dragon's Breath Hunter Art that I love for the sheer badassery of.
They'd need to balance it better. Being in the proper level of heat just made you do what was considered normal damage in 4U
I just bought Rise, I'm 60 hours in and I haven't touched a weapon that isn't a switch axe
“High skill ceiling“ spamming buttons never been more skillful
Was laughing when you put both my mains in bottom tier XD
Not sure how you couldn't love a full burst combo with a normal GL and artillery 5. A blessed weapon. Iceborne made it even better with the doubled shots from the slinger ammo. Absolutely bonkers damage output.
Surprisingly, me and SuperRad have the SAME EXACT OPINIONS about the weapons in this series.
I am not lying, seriously.
Out of all of them, I’d say heavy bow gun is the one weapon I just can’t for the life of me get into. I’ve tried and tried and just couldn’t have fun with it.
As a Charge Blade main in 4U, I chose it because it felt the most natural to me. Now, going back to other weapons, I’ve been able to pick them up pretty easily (except for Greatsword and a few others). It truly is one of the best weapons to play if you want to have something that you can never stop learning with.
Man, I got destroyed by your IG placement. For me it has always been an incredible experience whenever I vault over an attack and feel like goku UI. Also, its insanely funny when you kill a monster with the kinsect accidentally. Said by an IG main since 4u.
Yeah. That's kinda funny but it's more fun when kinsect stun a monster or cut a tail xD for accidental kill for me GS shoulder tackle is a king xD
Him: longsword mains are nice
Longsword mains: hits teammate five times
Me: can't hit teammates if you don't have one
Long swords skill cap went away with gen 5. It's a counter stick. Feel like great swords skill cap is higher now.
Yeah, I completely agree with you, in old gens monsters barely touched me, but now it's like I started learning from the bottom lmao, you need to learn the moveset and how to position to counter the monster the most effectively
I can't speak to older gens than World but Insect Glaive is just below Long Sword to me. Chasing a monster into the sky or dodging something with a perfect hop feels great. The insect mechanic with buffs... Sometimes the areas you have to hit are designed poorly and the insects shouldn't have an extensive upgrade tree, but it's enjoyable overall
Just want to point out, that 7 months later.... This is still the most objective tier list ever created and all the information remains 100% accurate, even if there were some changes to the weapons. Congratulations sir, you are incredible.
A heathen who mains LBG and IG rn :) lmao
EDIT: Though I think we need to talk about the Kunai at some point. Legit weapon with its own specific food buff in the cantina.
Love my greatsword big sword making big number makes brain happy also something about how methodical and slow you have to play just makes those big meaty hits feel so satisfying
GL in lowest tier, time to cry.
But seriously trying to use the GL in GU is really weird because of that heat gauge. Not to mention that in rise it got another shelling nerf just because and now you have to use a wirebug move with a long cooldown just to get that damage back. I dont think the developers know that the weapon really isnt that OP in the first place. Still going to use it though because I’m just built different idk.
on the bright side, the Valor moveset in GU feels good
@@8bitandfit Agreed I think thats the best thing its got in GU lol.
Why use Longsword when you can you the Bonkinater 3000
Interesting to see someone who isn't a Hunting Horn main agree with me that Rise ruined it.
Do they usually give you the long sword first in MH games? I've only played a few of them, and Rise is the first one in years. I don't remember being given a LS first before, as I'm sure it'sa more difficult to use weapon, right? or am I thinking of a bigger sword? I'm thinking of the very slow one.
PS: I like the hammer, I like to smack stuff in the head. I played hammer almost exclusively in World.
PPS: i think I'm going to try playing switch axe in rise. I only just got it for PC, so not played it much yet, still just in the hub after talking to a million people... btw does that looping song ever stop in the hub? I wish they just took the vocals out, it would be way more bearable.
EDIT: glad you put my hammer up there, that's the one. Monster ball on a stick.
Normally it's SnS
@@SuperRADLemon TY
“Longsword is no longer known as the weapon that trips” lol keep telling yourself that man.
HH placement seem about right, the weapon is great in Rise but I feel with their attempt to make it more accessible, they took away allot of what made the weapon what it was.
Gunlance, while I love the weapon got the shortest end of the stick in Rise, the devs just don’t seem to either care, or they just don’t know how to balance the weapon properly, it was in a better state in World/Iceborne but that isn’t saying much.
As far as Longsword is concerned, I think the spot that it’s in is about right, BUT I do feel like it can do everything and has few downsides which IMO just isn’t good, thing could stand to be tweaked a bit as to where it’s not just hands down better than most of the other weapon choices outside of the LBG, but really weapon balance in general could be allot better in Rise, but that’s a whole other conversation.
The gunlance section is absolutely true we have 6 level 4 shelling gunlances and the rampage gun lance pretty much outclassed the others. The balancing is also abysmal