One reason why the magnetic stir bars clean off so well is that they are actually coated with PTFE (the stuff in Teflon). When mixing chemicals this ensures that as little of the chemicals stick to the bar as possible and that the bar itself doesn't react with any of the chemicals. It also helps to reduce friction on the bar, making it easier to stir.
@@EvanAndKatelynI was honestly surprised you've never used one of these before. Magnetic stirrers are a great tool when you need to mix something consistently for a long period, and since resin is actually a chemical reaction it seems like a great fit. You can also get one with a built-in hot plate if that's ever something you need.
@@JordanSugarman I always wish I had these magnetic stirrers in my normal kitchen 😅 (One day after a whole day in chem lab at uni I was really thinking "oh I forgot the stir magnet" while cooking dinner 😂 Seems like I was a bit exhausted and mentally still in the lab 😅)
@@JordanSugarman I’m less surprised? They’re handy as hell, but I only know magnetic stir bars even exist because of chemistry channels like nilered/blue. They’re really only used regularly in chemistry as far as I know, I haven’t see any resin crafters using them-granted I only follow this channel, occasionally watch others in recommended.
Teflon is a very hydrophobic material, about as hydrophobic as you can get before you have to start changing the microstructure of the surface of a material, which is why things don't stick to it.
For sure! And it's cool that there are companies trying to offer cheaper alternatives. Waiting two or three extra minutes to save several hundred dollars is totally worth it for someone just doing occasional projects!
If you use the magnetic stir bars in the future, you can remove them from the resin with another magnet through the side of the cup! might be easier and less disruptive to the resin surface than reaching in with tweezers.
I don't know much about resin but it seems like the stir bar could be held to the bottom with a magnet on the outside. It could then be removed after the pour.
As a benchtop scientist, those magnetic stir plates are super super useful and reliable. If science companies didn't inflate their prices so much, I would consider getting one for my home.
If you don't need heat, stir plates are dirt cheap. I got a super nice $800 heated stir plate with remote probe for $90 and all it needed was a set screw tightened. There are deals to be had. And you can even make a stir plate by gluing a magnet to a computer fan (remove blades, add speed control ideally, build platform).
The resin stir sticks are super easy to clean up if you spray them with isopropyl alcohol as soon as you are done and wipe away with a paper towel. If you wait til it's cured, it's a pain to remove the resin from them.
thank you! was coming to the comments section to make this same comment haha...i just use a babywipe to clean my off of the bulk of the residue and then go in with iso when cleaning up. works for me!
I have a dark amber jar with a lid that I put some 99% Isopropyl Alcohol. Then when I'm done with the mixer, I put the mixer attachment, still attached to the mixer and then I'll run the mixer in the jar of alcohol. So far. It's working and I haven't changed 5he alcohol out yet
The price of the vacuum chamber is amazing. If i was a resin home maker then the vacuum chamber that i could get for under £200 and not have to know 100% how it works and have a company that i could get customer sport from is amazing. Also cool that the company had the confidence in the product to reach out.
But how long will it last? $150 is a lot of money if it's breaks after a year. That's why I generally don't like these one-time tests. At least take it apart to look at the components. Or check how warm/hot the motor or pump gets during operation.
@@Jehty_But if I'm just starting out being able to buy something that is more affordable out of the gate can get me started sooner while I save to invest in the more expensive one.
Im actually really impressed by the baby vacuum chamber i work with resin only in small amounts for like dice or charms or jewelry and could never see myself buying a vacuum or pressure chamber bc they are soooo expensive lol the max of what i use is a heat gun so the fact that it actually did that good a job. (the hand mixed control vs the small vacuum) is nice to know some cheaper options actually arent crazy scams
But for the price, I'm seeing other more reliable vacuum chambers with compressors that are actually less expensive. Just take up a bit more shelf space. Come on clear pvc versions for the same price!!!
If you can somehow construct a chamber and keep it from imploding, vacuum pumps alone are not THAT expensive. Or in theory you can even use old refrigerator coolant pump as vacuum pump (which you can salvage from old fridge, or perhaps buy as replacement part for fridge repair).
So true, especially when they send another product that actually intrigues me. A quieter small scale vacuum chamber fits with my apartment mini fab aesthetic.
I think the mini vacuum would work well if there was no time pressure such as with UV resin. Usually you're working with smaller volumes then anyway so taking longer to pull a vacuum wouldn't make too much difference
The magnetic mixer combined with the cheaper vacuum could be a win win situation. The cheap vacuum did pull some of the bubbles, and the magnetic mixer produced less bubbles.
The price to effectiveness ratio on the small vacuum chamber is pretty darn good. If you were just a hobbyist that wanted to cut down on bubbles, it seems like a good pairing with the stir bars. I do question the longevity of the vacuum chamber though.
I have that little vacuum chamber and I love it! Any bubbles that are left over are much bigger and easier to pop with a quick pass of a lighter and it gets my resin so clear and perfect. You can't beat the price!
This was such chill vibes. Haha was so happy to hear y'all weren't suid on Patrion. It dose take guts to send your product to someone who completely roasted your last one. Glad to see them stand by their product. Seems good for dice and other small projects. Haha y'all definitely have plenty of small gift pens now 😂
I've seen this silicone mat that Peter Brown has and you can make different tools with your extra resin instead of having to find extra molds, I think you guys would really like it and should try it out
The silicone stir sticks are better if you immediately clean the resin off after using. If you leave the resin on it, it dries out the silicone with each use. Eventually it won't peel off the stick and you will need new ones. Happened to me.
I’m a bit confused by how this is a repurposed juicer because I did a bunch of googling to try to find a similar looking/functioning juicer that would’ve been repurposed and didn’t find anything. I could be searching the wrong keywords but I just wanna know what device you are talking about
@@emmetthowell899 I think they were exaggerating - it's not a repurposed juicer at all, it just looks like the one that Katelyn popped up on the screen for a brief second.
@@LukeTheHomoKing “repurposed” doesn’t mean it just looks similar but that it actually does the same action, which is definitely not what the superficially similar looking one that was shown does
I think one big advantage to the magnetic stirrer is that you can leave it going while you put the resin in the pressure pot so you don't have to do anything and can just let the machines do the work for you
@@justkeepswimmin You could have the corded base outside and the stir ring inside if the pull is strong enough, but I dunno if it would work with their vaccuum chamber or not
@@justinpflieger3380 magnetic stir bars work with lab glassware that can be 1/8" thick on the bottom, and the vacuum chamber looked to be about that thick, so it might well work right through it. Definitely worth testing imo.
As a bench scientist, vortexers and magnetic stirrers are part of my everyday life. So the fact you're both so amazed by these products is fun for me 🤣
18:34 Here is a tip for cleaning. Keep a jar of alcohol around and when you need to clean it just dump it on the jar and turn it on. The act of mixing will clean it. You can reuse the same alcohol a few times before too much resin is diluted into it. The same is valid for the pills. 20:36 As you move the stick you are creating a rift in the liquid. As that rift colapses it traps air that becomes bubbles. You can have a decent visualization of how it happens if you watch the scene where the sea closes/colapses on 1956 The Ten Commandments.
Evan: Talks technical details of their custom vacuum chamber in ADHD fashion Katelyn: Casually lifting the other chamber like a weight confidently Yep, that sums up the channel alright
@@DystopianOvertureHim admiring the magnetic stirrer while Katelyn was trying to explain why it made sense that the smaller magnet mixed better was a great example of that in my opinion.
@@DystopianOvertureHahah same, glad to see someone noticing the ADHD vibes, I think that's why I'm so drawn to the channel as someone who's both autistic and ADHD, their videos and energies scratch my brain just right
What do you normally do with extra resin? You could totally make a silicone mold that has shapes for different tools you normally use! Like stir sticks! Or some kind of other tools. Then you'll never waste resin and you have a continuous endless supply
If I remember correctly, they tend to just pour excess resin into a pixel heart mould. They definitely could've changed what mould they are using but the hearts are the last thing.
The magnetic mixer is actually a really good idea for bigger projects where you don't want to keep stirring and stirring forever. I can't wait to see it get it's own set of googly eyes and name!
Also, a tip for cleaning off thin tiny resin is using tape. I use painter's tape, and it takes it right off the silicone. Also, I use silicone stir sticks mainly to prevent waste.@@EvanAndKatelyn
Fun fact, among the science community, at least here in Chile, we call the white magnet "fish", and get it out (fish it) with a "fishing rod" (a string with another magnet), or sliding out with another magnet from the outside.
Aw, that reminds me of a game I had as a child where you had to try to catch plastic fish that opened and closed their mouths in a rotating pond with a "rod" that had a magnet on a string.
Honestly this was the most useful review video. As a fellow hobby resin user, I'm often interested in but skeptical of these products and wish they could be tested, and here you guys are to save the day!! Thank you for your tests and sharing your information
as a complete aside, for silicone products for resin, such as sticks, measuring cups, horrible gloves etc, you let the resin cure normally and then wash it in warm soapy water ( i have a specific washing up tub for this purpose) - it comes off much easier. discard of the water using some sort of wilter or seive to stop the resin going into the drain, let dry and then put it in the bin (that is a personal preference as i don't want water buildup in my craft bin) using silicone measuring cups and sticks is really good if you want reusable instead of disposable products, even though that does mean maintenance. do recommend
Wow. Never been this early to a video!! The silicone gloves are so cursed. My sister, a trained chemist, immediately said y'all needed the smaller magnet. She works with this device regularly bc it's basic lab equipment for her work.
I think the draw of the gloves would partially be less waste (among things like money saving) but if you need to use tape to effectively remove the resin beads then you'd end up creating likely just as much waste as gloves. You could peel off every individual bead but it would be a real waste of time. If the gloves weren't awful to wear they would be more effective if the resin pooled and could be peeled off all in one
In a normal use case I don’t see people carefully washing their begloved hands in resin. Not coating the whole glove = not that much cleanup. I do like the idea of a reusable glove for resin work!
Results of the lab magnetic mixer are pretty surprising! Never thought it would do so well to prevent bubbles, since the thing mixing doesn't ever touch the surface like other mixers. I use silicon mixers personally. Mostly because they have a sort of spatula edge (not basic popsicle stick shape), and reusable which is more environmentally friendly. All you really need is a stiff cleaning brush (like the kind for cleaning a sink) to get the resin off silicon stir sticks.
make reusable silicone gloves using molds of your own hands made from resin. To make them slightly larger than your actual hands, you can sand the resin hands after they dry and dip them resin two or even three more times before smoothing them off again. You can even make them elbow-length for extra protection. After completing the silicone part of the gloves for thickness and sturdiness, you can sand the silicon itself (not the easiest thing to do, but it works) and coat the gloves in another material, like Nitrile, to add further protection. For comfort you can add you can add silk inserts for the insides so your hands slide into the gloves perfectly every time. Once you're sure the silk inserts work well, you can put them on your fake hands and carefully coat the outside with a sturdy glue before applying the silicone gloves. The gloves won't work perfectly for other people. But for you specifically, they should be one of the best sets of gloves you've ever used.
I think something that wasn’t mentioned or considered during this was the impact of the environment for things like plastic gloves and wooden popsicle sticks. I think that if you had cleaned the silicone sticks afterwards kinda like the magnets the rating would have been different! I think things like that especially when it comes to science and how our DIYs impact the environment is important to consider and just wanted to mention! Great vid as always.
Maybe. But wood is renewable, and silicone often isn't. If you can get 20 uses out of one stick, that's probably friendlier. And latex gloves are very, very thin and biodegradable. The real issue though is that it all probably dwindles in relation to resin, which is fossil fuel-derived and not really degradable. The most environmentally friendly tool is probably the one that means does the best job and results in you wasting the least resin.
19:20 I use these same blue stir sticks. I really like that they're reusable vs. Throwing away popsicle sticks. Not very hard to clean either with alcohol.
The best way I get the hundreds of little resin pebbles off silicone like that is usually with some cheap dollar store masking tape looped sticky side out. You can move to another area of the tape with one hand and without ripping off more pieces. Picks it up off the silicone with no problem! (I wrote this right before Evan pulled the tape on screen, hilariously-)
I just think that for the time and effort, while also still creating waste (I assume the tape isn't reusable) it would be more efficient to use disposable.
honestly, i have massive respect for that company. they acknowledge they were hurt by it, but they put their own feelings aside and gave you a better product to review. its a very profesisonal way to go about it and i really like how honest they were
I am so glad that actual lab equipment did a good job, I was intrigued to see how that would go! But I love those lil guys :) (microbiologist who mixes a bunch of media using something similar!)
Katelyn, I know your brother from years ago. I remember meeting baby Katelyn a few times in passing. It's really cool to see that you have grown up to find success on the level y'all have. Keep on kicking ass.
0:35 this little diagram chart edit thingy that katelyn did is amazing. I just never get over how stinking talented she is and how her editing skills have grown through the years
Hi E&K! I'm autistic and just found your channel. Absolutely loving the content and your energy and quirkiness resonates with me in a way that I very rarely find in other people. I can relate a lot to both of your behaviors and personalities in a way that I don't really find in neurotypical people. I hope this isn't insensitive, but I was wondering if either of you were on the autism spectrum? I've recently been learning more about myself and interacting in autistic communities as I have an easier time interacting with everyone there. Sorry if not, I don't mean to be rude if this is, I just really resonate with both of your personalities in a way that I basically never see elsewhere.
For any woodworkers out there, the magnetic stir system is also decent for dissolving shellac flake in your solvents. It helps if you have very fine flake though
These gadget testing videos have always been some of my favorite. I would love to just purchase fun and odd gadgets to test them out, but I just don’t have the means to do so. However I really appreciate that y’all (Evan in particular) buy items to help show the public what works and what doesn’t. 😆
This is honestly so helpful for hobbiest like me who are doing small resin projects in their wee craft room on weekends. Getting a good result with cheaper, more compact equipment is the goal. Absolute gem of a video.
Hey Evan! I wanted to say that you are one of the people that inspired me to pursue a degree in engineering. I love seeing the high pressure systems, mock-ups, etc. that you build. So, just so you know, I'm pursuing a degree in Mechanical Engineering because of you ❤.
One thing I have found when hand mixing is that colder resin gets more bubbles. Before I use my resin I put the bottles in a bucket of hot water (not up to the cap) for 5-10 minutes and I got little/no bubbles. It is a life saver!
"I'm really glad we switched pills!" - The Matrix (1999) The editing/editing jokes in this were super great (rewinded the AI part so many times) 😂 like i have no interesting in resin but i love watching your stuff because you make it entertaining and easy to understand for all. Major props to the company of the Compact vacuum chamber too! Glad they were finally able to get that Evan and Katelyn seal of approval
As chemist can say we do use magnet stir bars all the time and love them they fun :D Also you can get this stir bar retriever rod that has a magnet on the other end that you stick into your solutions to yoink out the stir bar without needing to use your hands or tweezers to grab it :D
not only is this video a delight (love watching you two productively goof around) but the editing is so fun!!! i love the retro video game style and its such an effective and engaging transition! your editor (or is it katelyn?) should be SO proud bc this is an excellent job :) cant wait to see what yall do next!!
@@seerofallthatisobvious1316I know Katelyn used to do most of the editing on the main channel in the recent past, not sure about now though, I don't have enough info haha
Please use the magnet stirrer more! The results were amazing and i love to see one used for fun stuff (as opposed to every time i had to use it in uni while my project was failing)(not its fault but i did build a bit of resentment)
I have that vacuum chamber and you could’ve easily popped the bubbles with a spritz of isopropyl alcohol on top. As someone who mixes badly, it’s been invaluable. I’m grabbing one of those science stirrers and between that and the vacuum chamber, I shall be unstoppable! 😂
I use the blue fancy silicone stir sticks when I mix resin. For cleaning them and an resin molds I use take a tub of water with some alcohol and clean them in it, you can then either dump the water into the toilet or strain it first before dumping. Though that chemical stirer looks amazing and works awesome. I may look into getting that!
Holy cow I made it in time I honestly have to say that you two are My absolute two favorite creators ever and, I just want to thank You two for inspiring me into trying different creative ideas. Much love💙
Fun fact about those magnetic stir bars: they are called "Rührfische" in Germany which literally translates to "stir fish". Also if you plan on using them more often in the future there are "Rührfischfänger" (translates into "stir fish catcher"). They're basically just a stick with a magnet at the end, so it's fairly easy to get those magnetic stir bars out. (At least easier than with tweezers ^^)
honestly, good for the company for reaching out and not suing, but instead redeeming themselves with that vacuum chamber! I think it's pretty neat, for about 1/5 of the cost (and no need to put it together) of Evan and Katelyn's diy vacuum chamber, it did pretty good! Only one visible bubble. I think it'll be a good start for hobbyist or small businesses
I have an 💡 idea... Wipe your sticks immediately after stirring with a baby wipe or alchol. 😊 next idea is to buy a really good degassing resin like jdiction (my favorite) and it's around $55. A gallon which is a great price! Then all these gadgets can be thrown out😅 or not bought at all 😊
Those silicone sticks and the magnetic tablet and the AI mixing paddle come clean immediately with one wipe of a wet wipe as soon as you've finished with them, it's so easy, and removes all of the resin completely, I've been doing it for years so know it definitely works
One of the main reasons I've never gotten into doing resin stuff is because of the bubbles if you don't have a vacuum chamber or pressure pot. And I didn't want to make my own vacuum chamber...or pressure pot. And I didn't want to use a pressure pot because it just...scares me lol. So a pre made vacuum chamber is something that interests me...
This completely validates my own experiences this past month, testing out silicone cups and using the same paddle mixer with a drill. The paddle mixer was heaps better at mixing but definitely a 1 time use.
Do you ever miss an upload? And get a great surprise almost a month late that THERE'S AN EVAN AND KATELYN VIDEO YOU HAVEN'T SEEN? I'm so so so excited to watch this!
I use the blue silicone stir sticks for my resin work and i love them i feel they are so easy to clean. One thing i do use though as a pre cleanup before resin cures is baby wipes. they are one of my favorite clean up tools for resin work idk why but they just work so well.
Actually, I think the vacuum needed to pull most of the air bubbles out of resin doesn't need to be that high. All it needs is to reduce the pressure on the bubbles enough so that they grow in size and displace more resin ( hence have greater buoyancy as the mass of the gasses inside remains the same assuming nothing evaporated from the resin ) and then float to the top where u can just scrap it off if they don't pop.
I use the silicon stir sticks all the time. The trick to them is to wipe them off with a shop towel _before_ the resin hardens. They're super easy to clean then. Once the resin hardens, though, they're terrible.
Modern products advertise "AI" features that are less advanced than the "popcorn" button on an old microwave. At least the microwave has a steam sensor that has to be triggered before the preset timer starts.
If you want to mix larger volumes of resin with the magnetic stirrer, there are much much bigger "stirring fish" (thats what they are called in Germany 😂), even some with feet that look like little dumbbells. They are mixing more efficient and you can still use your small-ish stirrer 😊 just make sure to center your vessel!
It doesn't matter how many vids I watch from yall I always end up cracking up. 😅 Evan reminds me so much of that kid at school that always hops around going "ME FIRST!, ME FIRST!, ME FIRST!" And Katelyn just accepts chaotic defeat in the face of it. 😆
i'd imagine it'd be far more effective to just dip your hand sin silicone and pull them out and make your own silicone gloves that perfectly fir your hands.... just definitely dont forget release agent :P
Mmm, I don't think I would want silicone curing directly on my skin. Possibly put an intermediate step like Jedrek and create a mold of one's hand in a dental molding material which is skin-safe. Then a cast a silicone master of the hand in that.
For resin mixing I keep every electric mixer beater I come across. The round metal beaters that turn in a mixer that you use to whip egg white or whatever. Idk what they are called but I always have plenty of them. Stick it in a drill and go to town. And if you want to mix smaller batches you can cut the limbs off a beater just leaving sort of a plus sign shaped bit at the bottom. Works great.
I'm most impressed that you found a magnetic stirrer for that price. The ones you get from lab suppliers usually cost at least double of what you paid...
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use the golves as hand molds
this was fun & educational!!
thank you for sharing :) x
I thought you were going make something with air-dry clay. But this works too.
I just HAD to get one. Got one to be VERY oversized to live in this winter. Can't wait! ❤
@MERP_plays😊!If -
One reason why the magnetic stir bars clean off so well is that they are actually coated with PTFE (the stuff in Teflon). When mixing chemicals this ensures that as little of the chemicals stick to the bar as possible and that the bar itself doesn't react with any of the chemicals. It also helps to reduce friction on the bar, making it easier to stir.
very cool!
@@EvanAndKatelynI was honestly surprised you've never used one of these before. Magnetic stirrers are a great tool when you need to mix something consistently for a long period, and since resin is actually a chemical reaction it seems like a great fit. You can also get one with a built-in hot plate if that's ever something you need.
@@JordanSugarman I always wish I had these magnetic stirrers in my normal kitchen 😅
(One day after a whole day in chem lab at uni I was really thinking "oh I forgot the stir magnet" while cooking dinner 😂 Seems like I was a bit exhausted and mentally still in the lab 😅)
@@JordanSugarman I’m less surprised? They’re handy as hell, but I only know magnetic stir bars even exist because of chemistry channels like nilered/blue. They’re really only used regularly in chemistry as far as I know, I haven’t see any resin crafters using them-granted I only follow this channel, occasionally watch others in recommended.
Teflon is a very hydrophobic material, about as hydrophobic as you can get before you have to start changing the microstructure of the surface of a material, which is why things don't stick to it.
I really respect how the company reached to the criticism. It also feels like it really pushed them to make a better and more unique product.
Fascinating that they admitted that it was basically a dehydrator that was tweaked a bit. I’m glad the vacuum chamber worked!
Seriously! And I think it's a good choice for people who do small pours for stuff like jewellery or dices!
For sure! And it's cool that there are companies trying to offer cheaper alternatives. Waiting two or three extra minutes to save several hundred dollars is totally worth it for someone just doing occasional projects!
Honestly! And I think if you combine the stir bar and then use the vacuum chamber it would work even better and maybe quicker. They should test that!
Yeah, it's really nice to see a company actually trying to make something worthwhile.
If you use the magnetic stir bars in the future, you can remove them from the resin with another magnet through the side of the cup! might be easier and less disruptive to the resin surface than reaching in with tweezers.
oh that's a good suggestion
I don't know much about resin but it seems like the stir bar could be held to the bottom with a magnet on the outside. It could then be removed after the pour.
They gotta do it next time
As a benchtop scientist, those magnetic stir plates are super super useful and reliable. If science companies didn't inflate their prices so much, I would consider getting one for my home.
I was going to say it's really odd to see something I use in the lab every day like on a DIY channel.
@@EthanNakuma Saame xD When I don't have anything else to do while waiting for stuff to dissolve, I'll play around with it and make some tornados :D
What would you use them for at home?
@@sarahmcdonough7713 hot chocolate 🤣
If you don't need heat, stir plates are dirt cheap. I got a super nice $800 heated stir plate with remote probe for $90 and all it needed was a set screw tightened. There are deals to be had. And you can even make a stir plate by gluing a magnet to a computer fan (remove blades, add speed control ideally, build platform).
The resin stir sticks are super easy to clean up if you spray them with isopropyl alcohol as soon as you are done and wipe away with a paper towel. If you wait til it's cured, it's a pain to remove the resin from them.
Yeah I was wondering why they didn’t clean up the stir sticks the same way they did the magnetic stirrer thingy
You have the longest username I've ever seen
could also just put some iso in a cup and then stir them in the ISO.
thank you! was coming to the comments section to make this same comment haha...i just use a babywipe to clean my off of the bulk of the residue and then go in with iso when cleaning up. works for me!
I have a dark amber jar with a lid that I put some 99% Isopropyl Alcohol. Then when I'm done with the mixer, I put the mixer attachment, still attached to the mixer and then I'll run the mixer in the jar of alcohol. So far. It's working and I haven't changed 5he alcohol out yet
Katelyn: drops resin on gloves
Evan: washes gloves/hands with resin
He really took it all the way
@@EvanAndKatelyn I feel you could say that on EVERY episode. Heck, it could be on his coat of arms.
@@EvanAndKatelynMaybe the silicone gloves could be used to create hand molds? Still not great
Never half ass when you can double the ass! 😄
Hashtag resin relatable stuff XD
The price of the vacuum chamber is amazing. If i was a resin home maker then the vacuum chamber that i could get for under £200 and not have to know 100% how it works and have a company that i could get customer sport from is amazing. Also cool that the company had the confidence in the product to reach out.
But how long will it last?
$150 is a lot of money if it's breaks after a year.
That's why I generally don't like these one-time tests. At least take it apart to look at the components. Or check how warm/hot the motor or pump gets during operation.
@@Jehty_But if I'm just starting out being able to buy something that is more affordable out of the gate can get me started sooner while I save to invest in the more expensive one.
I bought the Resiners vacuum chamber first an then got my pressure pot. I hardly ever use the vacuum chamber anymore. Wish I had saved my money!
@@TheJillers That math doesn't work if it fails before you can recoup your costs though ...
Im actually really impressed by the baby vacuum chamber i work with resin only in small amounts for like dice or charms or jewelry and could never see myself buying a vacuum or pressure chamber bc they are soooo expensive lol the max of what i use is a heat gun so the fact that it actually did that good a job. (the hand mixed control vs the small vacuum) is nice to know some cheaper options actually arent crazy scams
But for the price, I'm seeing other more reliable vacuum chambers with compressors that are actually less expensive. Just take up a bit more shelf space. Come on clear pvc versions for the same price!!!
If you can somehow construct a chamber and keep it from imploding, vacuum pumps alone are not THAT expensive. Or in theory you can even use old refrigerator coolant pump as vacuum pump (which you can salvage from old fridge, or perhaps buy as replacement part for fridge repair).
It's refreshing to see a company take some accountability
I got so much more respect for the company to actually respond to them. Like that takes guts and I appreciate it.
@@deathray6032 right
So true, especially when they send another product that actually intrigues me. A quieter small scale vacuum chamber fits with my apartment mini fab aesthetic.
I think the mini vacuum would work well if there was no time pressure such as with UV resin. Usually you're working with smaller volumes then anyway so taking longer to pull a vacuum wouldn't make too much difference
yeah a slow cure resin would definitely work better
'Amazon keeps on recommending products to us, and my husband keeps on buying them'. I can relate 😅
hahahaha
hahahaha same but I am alone
@@huskey404 I am my own husband
@@its_cleansame haha
I am that husband
The magnetic mixer combined with the cheaper vacuum could be a win win situation. The cheap vacuum did pull some of the bubbles, and the magnetic mixer produced less bubbles.
Yeah great point, why do the operations separately when you can magnet your way through the vacuum chamber and do both operations at once!
@@SovietGrazz That is a really good idea. Save time and less risk of curing prematurely.
The price to effectiveness ratio on the small vacuum chamber is pretty darn good. If you were just a hobbyist that wanted to cut down on bubbles, it seems like a good pairing with the stir bars. I do question the longevity of the vacuum chamber though.
I have that little vacuum chamber and I love it! Any bubbles that are left over are much bigger and easier to pop with a quick pass of a lighter and it gets my resin so clear and perfect. You can't beat the price!
Humm...Maybe I will buy it if I star making resin eyes for my ooak dolls...
This was such chill vibes. Haha was so happy to hear y'all weren't suid on Patrion. It dose take guts to send your product to someone who completely roasted your last one. Glad to see them stand by their product. Seems good for dice and other small projects.
Haha y'all definitely have plenty of small gift pens now 😂
haha it was a big relief!
I've seen this silicone mat that Peter Brown has and you can make different tools with your extra resin instead of having to find extra molds, I think you guys would really like it and should try it out
This exactly!!!!
I came here to make this exact comment.
Any link to the video or the mat itself?
I love him
it's Keith Decent's utility mat and they should totally get one, someone with a patreon needs to tell them about it (i'm way too broke)
Remember when Evan fell through the ceiling. Wild times!
Literally no connection to this particular video. I just wanted to reminisce.
@@maxpacker2372 💀 that's crazy
Lmao yes 😭😭
No ?
@@CodenamejellybeanIt was probably 3 or 4 years ago, tbh. It just seems to be popping into my brain a lot this week for some strange reason.
The silicone stir sticks are better if you immediately clean the resin off after using. If you leave the resin on it, it dries out the silicone with each use. Eventually it won't peel off the stick and you will need new ones. Happened to me.
"Okay, we totally repurposed a fruit dehydrator, but you should try our new vacuum chamber!" ::sends them a repurposed juicer::
I’m a bit confused by how this is a repurposed juicer because I did a bunch of googling to try to find a similar looking/functioning juicer that would’ve been repurposed and didn’t find anything. I could be searching the wrong keywords but I just wanna know what device you are talking about
@@emmetthowell899 I think they were exaggerating - it's not a repurposed juicer at all, it just looks like the one that Katelyn popped up on the screen for a brief second.
@@emmetthowell899 They literally show the juicer at 25:37
@@LukeTheHomoKing “repurposed” doesn’t mean it just looks similar but that it actually does the same action, which is definitely not what the superficially similar looking one that was shown does
@@emmetthowell899 Never said it was. Just told you where the Juicer was in the video.
I appreciate Katelyn’s “rationalizing” of Evan’s purchasing and engineering decisions, being an engineer myself. 😉
Us neuro-spicy individuals need a, "Pause that thought!" button/person. 😅
I think one big advantage to the magnetic stirrer is that you can leave it going while you put the resin in the pressure pot so you don't have to do anything and can just let the machines do the work for you
Now this sounds like one step closer to AI than the “actual” AI in the video lol 😂
It is corded though
@@justkeepswimmin You could have the corded base outside and the stir ring inside if the pull is strong enough, but I dunno if it would work with their vaccuum chamber or not
@@justinpflieger3380 magnetic stir bars work with lab glassware that can be 1/8" thick on the bottom, and the vacuum chamber looked to be about that thick, so it might well work right through it. Definitely worth testing imo.
As a bench scientist, vortexers and magnetic stirrers are part of my everyday life. So the fact you're both so amazed by these products is fun for me 🤣
18:34 Here is a tip for cleaning. Keep a jar of alcohol around and when you need to clean it just dump it on the jar and turn it on. The act of mixing will clean it. You can reuse the same alcohol a few times before too much resin is diluted into it.
The same is valid for the pills.
20:36 As you move the stick you are creating a rift in the liquid. As that rift colapses it traps air that becomes bubbles. You can have a decent visualization of how it happens if you watch the scene where the sea closes/colapses on 1956 The Ten Commandments.
Evan: Talks technical details of their custom vacuum chamber in ADHD fashion
Katelyn: Casually lifting the other chamber like a weight confidently
Yep, that sums up the channel alright
I've always said that E&K are like my ADHD and Autism existing together and I'm so glad I ain't the only one seeing the ADHDer in Evan.
@@DystopianOvertureabsolutely omg all I can think of when I watch their videos is how relatable they are with that 😂
@@DystopianOvertureHim admiring the magnetic stirrer while Katelyn was trying to explain why it made sense that the smaller magnet mixed better was a great example of that in my opinion.
@@lacytaylor1501 Yes!!
@@DystopianOvertureHahah same, glad to see someone noticing the ADHD vibes, I think that's why I'm so drawn to the channel as someone who's both autistic and ADHD, their videos and energies scratch my brain just right
What do you normally do with extra resin? You could totally make a silicone mold that has shapes for different tools you normally use! Like stir sticks! Or some kind of other tools. Then you'll never waste resin and you have a continuous endless supply
resin stir sticks
If I remember correctly, they tend to just pour excess resin into a pixel heart mould. They definitely could've changed what mould they are using but the hearts are the last thing.
The magnetic mixer is actually a really good idea for bigger projects where you don't want to keep stirring and stirring forever. I can't wait to see it get it's own set of googly eyes and name!
i imagine the silicone gloves being great for hand shaped molds
you do have a point there!
Also, a tip for cleaning off thin tiny resin is using tape. I use painter's tape, and it takes it right off the silicone. Also, I use silicone stir sticks mainly to prevent waste.@@EvanAndKatelyn
Hand shape hand soap 2.0??
oh heck yea that would be hilarious@@vogelvrouw or even a hand shaped candle with the wicks coming out of the fingers
we are about to enter spooky season. bring back cursed creations! @@vogelvrouw
Fun fact, among the science community, at least here in Chile, we call the white magnet "fish", and get it out (fish it) with a "fishing rod" (a string with another magnet), or sliding out with another magnet from the outside.
Same in germany! cool to see that you do that too in chile!
In my lab in the UK we call them fleas because they hop about if they go too fast - so many fun names!
Aw, that reminds me of a game I had as a child where you had to try to catch plastic fish that opened and closed their mouths in a rotating pond with a "rod" that had a magnet on a string.
Honestly this was the most useful review video. As a fellow hobby resin user, I'm often interested in but skeptical of these products and wish they could be tested, and here you guys are to save the day!! Thank you for your tests and sharing your information
as a complete aside, for silicone products for resin, such as sticks, measuring cups, horrible gloves etc, you let the resin cure normally and then wash it in warm soapy water ( i have a specific washing up tub for this purpose) - it comes off much easier. discard of the water using some sort of wilter or seive to stop the resin going into the drain, let dry and then put it in the bin (that is a personal preference as i don't want water buildup in my craft bin)
using silicone measuring cups and sticks is really good if you want reusable instead of disposable products, even though that does mean maintenance. do recommend
although yes sticks can be done easier with alcohol wipes as soon as you're done with them
Okay but the tape peeling the resin from the gloves was so satisfying.
watching the AI part again and again dying with laughter hahaha. BRILLIANT THANK YOU
I would love to see you guys incorporate resin bubbles as a feature rather than a bug. Like how big of bubbles could you capture in solid resin?
Wow. Never been this early to a video!! The silicone gloves are so cursed. My sister, a trained chemist, immediately said y'all needed the smaller magnet. She works with this device regularly bc it's basic lab equipment for her work.
I think the draw of the gloves would partially be less waste (among things like money saving) but if you need to use tape to effectively remove the resin beads then you'd end up creating likely just as much waste as gloves. You could peel off every individual bead but it would be a real waste of time. If the gloves weren't awful to wear they would be more effective if the resin pooled and could be peeled off all in one
In a normal use case I don’t see people carefully washing their begloved hands in resin. Not coating the whole glove = not that much cleanup.
I do like the idea of a reusable glove for resin work!
I am here to formally request some sort of resin collab with you guys and NileRed, I think that would be absolutely wonderful
Oh god, I needed a new E&K video this morning so, so badly. I am grateful to you and the universe for your timing!
Excited to see which 5 are terrible!
Results of the lab magnetic mixer are pretty surprising! Never thought it would do so well to prevent bubbles, since the thing mixing doesn't ever touch the surface like other mixers.
I use silicon mixers personally. Mostly because they have a sort of spatula edge (not basic popsicle stick shape), and reusable which is more environmentally friendly. All you really need is a stiff cleaning brush (like the kind for cleaning a sink) to get the resin off silicon stir sticks.
make reusable silicone gloves using molds of your own hands made from resin. To make them slightly larger than your actual hands, you can sand the resin hands after they dry and dip them resin two or even three more times before smoothing them off again. You can even make them elbow-length for extra protection.
After completing the silicone part of the gloves for thickness and sturdiness, you can sand the silicon itself (not the easiest thing to do, but it works) and coat the gloves in another material, like Nitrile, to add further protection. For comfort you can add you can add silk inserts for the insides so your hands slide into the gloves perfectly every time. Once you're sure the silk inserts work well, you can put them on your fake hands and carefully coat the outside with a sturdy glue before applying the silicone gloves.
The gloves won't work perfectly for other people. But for you specifically, they should be one of the best sets of gloves you've ever used.
I think something that wasn’t mentioned or considered during this was the impact of the environment for things like plastic gloves and wooden popsicle sticks. I think that if you had cleaned the silicone sticks afterwards kinda like the magnets the rating would have been different! I think things like that especially when it comes to science and how our DIYs impact the environment is important to consider and just wanted to mention! Great vid as always.
Maybe. But wood is renewable, and silicone often isn't. If you can get 20 uses out of one stick, that's probably friendlier. And latex gloves are very, very thin and biodegradable.
The real issue though is that it all probably dwindles in relation to resin, which is fossil fuel-derived and not really degradable. The most environmentally friendly tool is probably the one that means does the best job and results in you wasting the least resin.
19:20 I use these same blue stir sticks. I really like that they're reusable vs. Throwing away popsicle sticks. Not very hard to clean either with alcohol.
The best way I get the hundreds of little resin pebbles off silicone like that is usually with some cheap dollar store masking tape looped sticky side out. You can move to another area of the tape with one hand and without ripping off more pieces. Picks it up off the silicone with no problem! (I wrote this right before Evan pulled the tape on screen, hilariously-)
I just think that for the time and effort, while also still creating waste (I assume the tape isn't reusable) it would be more efficient to use disposable.
@@mm1234Xxx You're right, but it's still a pretty usable tip for other silicone molds. I didn't really see a point in the gloves either.
A lint roller may also work.
honestly, i have massive respect for that company. they acknowledge they were hurt by it, but they put their own feelings aside and gave you a better product to review. its a very profesisonal way to go about it and i really like how honest they were
I am so glad that actual lab equipment did a good job, I was intrigued to see how that would go! But I love those lil guys :) (microbiologist who mixes a bunch of media using something similar!)
0:56 What the heck?! These are some of the coolest transitions/title cards I’ve ever seen in a video! How did you make those?!
Katelyn, I know your brother from years ago. I remember meeting baby Katelyn a few times in passing. It's really cool to see that you have grown up to find success on the level y'all have. Keep on kicking ass.
who are you?
@@A.V.5.T I’ll give you one hint, Corndog. If you know, you know.
@@notbobsaget5192 it cant be you
@@A.V.5.T the one and only.
Doubt
Everything you guys said about the process of picking off the individual beads of resin from the gloves sounded awesome to me. SO satisfying!!
0:35 this little diagram chart edit thingy that katelyn did is amazing. I just never get over how stinking talented she is and how her editing skills have grown through the years
Have to say, those perfectly synced up drops of sparkle to the snare hits in the backing music track at 16:18: freakin nice! Lol
The reusable sticks would be fine if they were wiped down with alcohol right after use instead of trying to peel the cured resin off.
Or simply washed after curing. As in - take a sponge, take a bit of water with soap and wash the stick
I'm also curious if they could have sprayed mold release on them would they have worked better
I work as a chemical laboratory technician and these magnetic stirrers seriously are the best
The teflon magnets are pretty much indestructible:)
Hi E&K! I'm autistic and just found your channel.
Absolutely loving the content and your energy and quirkiness resonates with me in a way that I very rarely find in other people. I can relate a lot to both of your behaviors and personalities in a way that I don't really find in neurotypical people. I hope this isn't insensitive, but I was wondering if either of you were on the autism spectrum? I've recently been learning more about myself and interacting in autistic communities as I have an easier time interacting with everyone there. Sorry if not, I don't mean to be rude if this is, I just really resonate with both of your personalities in a way that I basically never see elsewhere.
For any woodworkers out there, the magnetic stir system is also decent for dissolving shellac flake in your solvents. It helps if you have very fine flake though
These gadget testing videos have always been some of my favorite. I would love to just purchase fun and odd gadgets to test them out, but I just don’t have the means to do so.
However I really appreciate that y’all (Evan in particular) buy items to help show the public what works and what doesn’t. 😆
This is honestly so helpful for hobbiest like me who are doing small resin projects in their wee craft room on weekends. Getting a good result with cheaper, more compact equipment is the goal. Absolute gem of a video.
Hey Evan! I wanted to say that you are one of the people that inspired me to pursue a degree in engineering. I love seeing the high pressure systems, mock-ups, etc. that you build. So, just so you know, I'm pursuing a degree in Mechanical Engineering because of you ❤.
One thing I have found when hand mixing is that colder resin gets more bubbles. Before I use my resin I put the bottles in a bucket of hot water (not up to the cap) for 5-10 minutes and I got little/no bubbles. It is a life saver!
"I'm really glad we switched pills!" - The Matrix (1999)
The editing/editing jokes in this were super great (rewinded the AI part so many times) 😂 like i have no interesting in resin but i love watching your stuff because you make it entertaining and easy to understand for all.
Major props to the company of the Compact vacuum chamber too! Glad they were finally able to get that Evan and Katelyn seal of approval
As chemist can say we do use magnet stir bars all the time and love them they fun :D Also you can get this stir bar retriever rod that has a magnet on the other end that you stick into your solutions to yoink out the stir bar without needing to use your hands or tweezers to grab it :D
not only is this video a delight (love watching you two productively goof around) but the editing is so fun!!! i love the retro video game style and its such an effective and engaging transition! your editor (or is it katelyn?) should be SO proud bc this is an excellent job :) cant wait to see what yall do next!!
You raise a good question, who does the editing for this show? I always notice and appreciate the creative editing in these videos.
@@seerofallthatisobvious1316I know Katelyn used to do most of the editing on the main channel in the recent past, not sure about now though, I don't have enough info haha
Please use the magnet stirrer more! The results were amazing and i love to see one used for fun stuff (as opposed to every time i had to use it in uni while my project was failing)(not its fault but i did build a bit of resentment)
I have that vacuum chamber and you could’ve easily popped the bubbles with a spritz of isopropyl alcohol on top. As someone who mixes badly, it’s been invaluable. I’m grabbing one of those science stirrers and between that and the vacuum chamber, I shall be unstoppable! 😂
Wow! Good on that company for truly wanting an honest review! I’m actually impressed by that in itself.
you guys are officially top tier influencers, getting pr packages and then the drama with product brand :D
I use the blue fancy silicone stir sticks when I mix resin. For cleaning them and an resin molds I use take a tub of water with some alcohol and clean them in it, you can then either dump the water into the toilet or strain it first before dumping. Though that chemical stirer looks amazing and works awesome. I may look into getting that!
Holy cow I made it in time I honestly have to say that you two are My absolute two favorite creators ever and, I just want to thank You two for inspiring me into trying different creative ideas. Much love💙
Fun fact about those magnetic stir bars: they are called "Rührfische" in Germany which literally translates to "stir fish".
Also if you plan on using them more often in the future there are "Rührfischfänger" (translates into "stir fish catcher"). They're basically just a stick with a magnet at the end, so it's fairly easy to get those magnetic stir bars out. (At least easier than with tweezers ^^)
One neat thing about magnetic stir bars is you can use another bar to pull it up the sides of the container to make it easier to fish it out
honestly, good for the company for reaching out and not suing, but instead redeeming themselves with that vacuum chamber! I think it's pretty neat, for about 1/5 of the cost (and no need to put it together) of Evan and Katelyn's diy vacuum chamber, it did pretty good! Only one visible bubble. I think it'll be a good start for hobbyist or small businesses
I have an 💡 idea...
Wipe your sticks immediately after stirring with a baby wipe or alchol. 😊 next idea is to buy a really good degassing resin like jdiction (my favorite) and it's around $55. A gallon which is a great price! Then all these gadgets can be thrown out😅 or not bought at all 😊
After watching for FOUR YEARS I've finally bit the bullet and bought a Chaos hoodie! Much loves. Happy to support you guys, EK. You're the best!
I use the silicone stir sticks. Tape works well for taking the resin off.
Those silicone sticks and the magnetic tablet and the AI mixing paddle come clean immediately with one wipe of a wet wipe as soon as you've finished with them, it's so easy, and removes all of the resin completely,
I've been doing it for years so know it definitely works
One of the main reasons I've never gotten into doing resin stuff is because of the bubbles if you don't have a vacuum chamber or pressure pot. And I didn't want to make my own vacuum chamber...or pressure pot. And I didn't want to use a pressure pot because it just...scares me lol. So a pre made vacuum chamber is something that interests me...
Oh yeah, I see a lot of sales for that company in the future thanks to that video
This completely validates my own experiences this past month, testing out silicone cups and using the same paddle mixer with a drill. The paddle mixer was heaps better at mixing but definitely a 1 time use.
In a lab we actually call those "pills" from the magnetic mixer "ballerinas". Always thought it was cute.
Pills and ballerinas. Isn't that the plot of Black Swan?
In brazilian labs we call them little fish (peixinho)
Do you ever miss an upload?
And get a great surprise almost a month late that THERE'S AN EVAN AND KATELYN VIDEO YOU HAVEN'T SEEN?
I'm so so so excited to watch this!
The plastick sticks are super helpful for when your wooden sticks run out
I use the blue silicone stir sticks for my resin work and i love them i feel they are so easy to clean. One thing i do use though as a pre cleanup before resin cures is baby wipes. they are one of my favorite clean up tools for resin work idk why but they just work so well.
At least the glove will make good Halloween props!👻🎃
Actually, I think the vacuum needed to pull most of the air bubbles out of resin doesn't need to be that high. All it needs is to reduce the pressure on the bubbles enough so that they grow in size and displace more resin ( hence have greater buoyancy as the mass of the gasses inside remains the same assuming nothing evaporated from the resin ) and then float to the top where u can just scrap it off if they don't pop.
You should get dice molds for your left offer resin and then you have a bunch of random pretty dice
at 29:25 Evan definitely gives off Tim the tool man vibes, but he can actually fix it lol.
I just gotta give it to Katelyn, she's a really talented editor
9:55 I'm not seeing enough people mentioning this fabulous "all your base are belong to us" reference
I use the silicon stir sticks all the time. The trick to them is to wipe them off with a shop towel _before_ the resin hardens. They're super easy to clean then. Once the resin hardens, though, they're terrible.
Modern products advertise "AI" features that are less advanced than the "popcorn" button on an old microwave.
At least the microwave has a steam sensor that has to be triggered before the preset timer starts.
The 'all your database are belong to us' reference made my day
If you want to mix larger volumes of resin with the magnetic stirrer, there are much much bigger "stirring fish" (thats what they are called in Germany 😂), even some with feet that look like little dumbbells. They are mixing more efficient and you can still use your small-ish stirrer 😊 just make sure to center your vessel!
love the fail university Merch, people really do have to not see failure as a bad thing. it's only bad if you don't learn from the failure.
there were several items I'd seen and considered buying. I'm glad you make these resin gadget testing videos.
MAKE A RESIN STIR STICK!
GENIUUUS
It doesn't matter how many vids I watch from yall I always end up cracking up. 😅 Evan reminds me so much of that kid at school that always hops around going "ME FIRST!, ME FIRST!, ME FIRST!" And Katelyn just accepts chaotic defeat in the face of it. 😆
i'd imagine it'd be far more effective to just dip your hand sin silicone and pull them out and make your own silicone gloves that perfectly fir your hands.... just definitely dont forget release agent :P
Mmm, I don't think I would want silicone curing directly on my skin. Possibly put an intermediate step like Jedrek and create a mold of one's hand in a dental molding material which is skin-safe. Then a cast a silicone master of the hand in that.
Loved this! The little graphics were so cute in the select screen!
I, for one, welcome our new AI Powered Mixer overlords.
For resin mixing I keep every electric mixer beater I come across. The round metal beaters that turn in a mixer that you use to whip egg white or whatever. Idk what they are called but I always have plenty of them. Stick it in a drill and go to town. And if you want to mix smaller batches you can cut the limbs off a beater just leaving sort of a plus sign shaped bit at the bottom. Works great.
15:25 Ha, and they say pills and alcohol shouldn't mix.
I'm most impressed that you found a magnetic stirrer for that price. The ones you get from lab suppliers usually cost at least double of what you paid...