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taking a look at the neels and dragonfly and rapido for now as they tic a lot of boxes and i don't like the sail drive sticking through a big hole in the bottom...i don't trust that and to much maintenance
Great review hoverer one thing missing are VIKO boats from polish shipyard vikoyachts.I purchased vikos35 ,which is a beautiful 37 feet monohull under 80 000 eur, and this was with accessories on top of base price.Very affordable boat and I am glad I picked it instead of some second hand Bavaria or hanse
I would suggest going to some boats with displacement hulls and narrow aft to handle following seas if you intend to do ocean crossings. If the boat is mostly for lying at anchor, your list is excellent. I'm looking at a Swan 46 MK1 circa 1986, a Pacific Seacraft 40, or similar that will be more comfortable when things get a bit gnarly.
Interesting boat choices! Those are true classics. I guess I might just create a new video focusing on blue water yachts sometime soon. Thanks for dropping by!
It's not really that difficult or expensive to get a Production Bost fit to Cross Oceans tbh, though my last boat a long keel shallow draft built in 1978, complies with your specification wants. I has to be faced that tens, if not hundreds of thousands of Production boats, are crossing Oceans pretty much every year, and rarely with any problems An EU CE A Rating is a pretty good guide tbh, even though generally CE anything isn't that great . Not overpowering with sails too large, and easy Sail Handling help a lot. and in that regard, .I like in mast furling Main, which if Bluewater Spec tri radial Dacron battenless, up goes furling and unfurling reliability, and down goes chafe and wear andvtear, pluscyou get back most of the performance of a fully battened Cross Cut Dacron Main - according to the Sailmaker anyway. with a strongly built self tacking jib, which can be reefed on a Furler, you've got a Storm Jib in place already, and it can be balanced with reefs in the Main as well, both done in seconds if this turn nasty. a good Sprayhood to hide behind, plus Bathing Platform folded up into the Transom, and your Cockpit is pretty secure against following Seas, and is greatly assisted with Chines bow to Stern, giving a lot of buoyancy to the rear end of the boat, which can be further assisted with a bow sea anchor, or drogue off the Stern. which can make things a lot more comfortable while riding things out. The most important changes I'd make to increase reliability, are not that expensive, and are among what .I would specify for a new boat, or would be sure to get checked for and replaced if they aren't, is 316 Stainless Steel Mast Fittings, because I don't want aluminium ones failing at the wrong time, which Sod's Law, they Will. Other than that, secure handholds from the Companionway to Port and Starboard to the Forecabin, which means they're there on the way back, a U shaped galley you can still use that you can wedge yourself into securely to get hot drinks and food while riding out a Storm, and with the essential thorough checkover of everything on the boat being in excellent Condition and serviced before setting off, just like you with a boat up to 5 times the price, things should be fine, as long as you pay the same attention to the journey you have to on that expensive boat. Then When you get where you are going, and you have arrived in your very comfortable floating home below decks, you have an excellent Cocpit in which you will spend most of your days at Anchor. Seems a really good deal to me, which as if now, is why my next boat looks as though it is going to be a Jeanneau Sun Odyssey 440 Shallow Draft (5'2" ), because I like getting into places, and being able to get out of them again helps, plus it really opens up places like the Bahamas, the USA inner Coastal Waterway, etc. Yes the boat will have a little side drift on a Reach, but I've never found it to be anything like enough to worry about. I'd like bigger, but that raises too many issues, and for my Next boat the 440 is Comfy and big enough for me, plus to have a few guests aboard when necessary, plus I'm too old to worry about a boat big enough to grow into. I'll let you know perhaps, after crossing Atlantic and Pacific, if my approach has changed, but it could be a fair few years. Best Wishes and Fair Winds. Bob. 👍🙂
@@brownnoise357 Just one comment on your list. A self-tacking jib is great when things are going well. But it makes things more difficult when you need to heave to. It's not impossible. But it will usually require someone going forward at a time that the preference is to stay in the cockpit.
@@williamstreet4304 100% agreed. improved if it's a Furling jib, but imho, that confirms to me anyway how pointless a jib is? May as well have say a 125% Genoa on a furler, and an oversized powerful winch, to assist with good furling when things go bad. I'm a Convert to not having Canvas up at bow or Stern due to counterproductive leverage and seesaw effects and only having reduced canvas/staysail in the Centre of the boat when heaving to. There's a very good lecture to this effect on TH-cam, which reinforced my observations, and added to them, so fully furl Genoa, with enough sheets to wind around and lock it closed, no Ketch, and a Stronly reinforced in mast furling Main, for a small area of cloth outside the mast to keep in the Hove to slick water area as best as possible while still making a bit of progress. tbh, I'll likely fit an oil dripper tube to the bowsprit, just in case, while trying to avoid getting into such situations in the first place. Which sfter some really bad experiences, such as with the Bay of Biscay, have me taking sensible routes 9n the Continental Shelf not far off coast, doing weather window hops instead, and getting nice stopovers as a result. No Rush, etc. Best Wishes and Fair Winds. Bob. 👍
You can buy used boats for cheaper than that. Plus if you want to put it thru it learning curve then it's ideal pick. Tho many sun cruiser available but true live aboard all weather protection especially for cockpit helm is a must. Good Presentation ☝️😎
Just found your channel. I’d like to see a blue water, live aboard & circumnavigation mono hull and catamaran break downs. Seem the mono hull and catamaran count downs you’ve done, do not specify whether they’re circumnavigation capable vessels. Thanks in advance!
None of these wide body transom boats are for heavy off shore cruising. they are NOT gonna handle a following sea very well. for one they're aft cockpit. for off shore you want a mid cockpit (or you better know how to swim!). You also want a steel or ferro-cement hull, not glass. there's other things too related to the rudder & keel. most of these boats do NOT have the rudder mounted to the keel ad double support UNDER the rudder. they just mounted on a big "stick" out there well separated from the keel. not good if you get grounded or an Orca tries to eat your rudder (which they've been known to do IF they get playful enough) Yeah juveniles are juveniles regardless of the species! As far as cats are concerned? stay inside (giant waves can either roll them or even pitch pole them). you just lost your boat and maybe even your life.
@@sailordave I agree tho that. I got a price near 400.000 euros about $453.000. So that is of the list. BUT, the price is right there, but without anything to it. STANDARD BOAT AS PER STANDARD SPECIFICATION (3 CABINS, 2 HEADS, TWIN AFT) 213.900,00 €. :)
Solar panels and Lithium Iron Phosphate (LiFePO4) batteries are becoming more popular in the boating industry, especially in sailing yachts, for their eco-friendly and cost-effective benefits. Many sailors are making the transition to solar power and LiFePO4 batteries to reduce their carbon footprint and reliance on fossil fuels. The transition might take time as it often involves retrofitting existing vessels or designing new ones to accommodate these systems. Are you considering a sailboat with these technologies, or do you have a specific interest in eco-friendly boating solutions?
These are boats ideal suited for staying in the harbour. The Salona 380 should be included in here. Much, much, much better constructed (steel frame, vinylester resins, etc. )
This list looks like it is composed by a brochure drooler, not a real sailor. My apologies if not true. Have you tried any of these? E.g. the sound level in a Hanse when it is raining and blowing outside. The Beneteau with its low ballast ratio and single laminat hull? What happened e.g. to the Bavaria, Elan, Dehler and Grand Soleil?
Apology accepted. There will always be trade offs with each vessel. As a sailor and a regular of boating trade shows, I’ve developed my own preferences. However, I’m still open to test out new ones that I’m not familiar with. To each her own, as they say.
No creo que estes bien informada sobre los precios de los barcos de esta comparativa, el jeanneau 349, en ningun caso vale 190.000, y el beneteau pasa bastante de los 250000, saludos desde el cariño.
@@HarbourMastersTV Meaningless, since they all have different configurations. You can only compare prices if you define a standard list of features and options.
Of course these are MSRPs. You'd have to check your own state taxes, add agent's or import fees, insurance, mooring permits, the list goes on, but we all know that.
@@HarbourMastersTV More important is that the option list on any of these boats includes most of the amenities that make extended sailing enjoyable and will likely add $100K to any of them. Nice to dream, thanks for the fun
You will be forcing me to buy a smaller boat. I need a intercoastal waterway friendly sailboat with less than 65 foot above the waterline and marina friendly/bahamas friendly with a draft around 5 foot. Seems none of these boats will work for me.
@@HarbourMastersTV Not a lot to ask. I'm 72 and not able to take one of these to sea but could escape a hurricane via the intercoastal waterway where it is very protected. Need to anchor in shallower waters because sharks have proliferated and greater choice of anchorage. So a shoal or lifting keel is what i will need when i get the money to go buy something. So also i may be forced to buy something used because at my age i don't want any waiting list.
@@randalladdison537 Different strokes for different folks, as they say! For that kind of use, a swing keel is definitely a must. Would love to hear more once you've decided on a boat. Thank you for your comments!
@@HarbourMastersTV I'm probably going to look seriously at high performance catamarans and trimarans...at 72 years old 25 degrees of heeling gets too tiring all day. I get tired of standing on my ear all day long. And these monohulls roll around like a pig in following seas and at anchor.
you need a motor yacht not a sail. wtf good is a sail in the intracoastal its gonna stay in its wrapper! a 65 foot sailer is a HUGE boat! I sailed on a double ender back in the day with a 60 foot waterline and it was HUGE (in the middle with its 18' beam). I mean this thing looked like a pregnant guppy. steel hull built in the 40's in NZ, this thing was a TANK! the captain and his wife & kids spent 4 weeks cleaning the hull in the Bay of Fundy back in the early 60's every summer. yeah with that kinda beam those barnacles have a LOTTA room to attach to as the wetted surface area was huge compared to its length. this boat also had a huge keel musta weighed 10 tons.
It's true the Sirius DS 40 is a well-regarded boat model known for its performance, safety, and comfort features. We're keen on giving their lineup a review as well.
I did not particularly like any of the 5 roomy but stubby and non-luxurious boats, and I liked their videos even less, they seemed like ads provided by their makers, with irrelevant human models smiling like idiots. The prices are low, but so is what you get for your $. ALSO, you need to give us a range for the annual operating, insuring, berthing etc costs.
Your observations on the videos and the need for more comprehensive cost information are duly noted. If you have specific preferences or criteria for roomy boats that you find luxurious, feel free to share, and perhaps we can tailor future recommendations accordingly. It's a valuable consideration for future content. Thank you for the feedback!
Thanks the main problem of the 5 stubby ones is their exterior design, which is not as graceful as usual sailboats. Maybe they look better up close. I understand they need that shape so they can be roomy without costing much more. @@HarbourMastersTV
What garbage. "...a draft of 6-8 feet." Lotsa luck cruising on a 40' boat with an 8' draft. I could get through only the first three "selections." These boats were not designed for ocean voyaging, but by salespeople for boat shows where the water is always mirror flat and the weather always pleasant. These boats purposely appeal to lubbers, especially lubberly wives delighted by tons of room in the cabin and who never think about the boat being hove down on her beam ends and the unfortunate crew being thrown out of a pilot berth on the high side, falling through space before fetching up on the far side 13' feet below. A fractured skull, neck, spine, or femur at sea is very likely to prove fatal. Remember catastrophic injuries frequently occur in weather conditions which make rescue by outside entities impossible. You want to go ocean sailing? First, LEARN TO SAIL. No one ever thinks about buying a plane and simply taking off. No, most people learn to fly first. And then getting plenty of experience, a couple of years' worth, before taking their family up. Yet many want to purchase a sailboat and shove right off. Learn to sail first. A very good choice for a couple is a Contessa 32. For many reasons, but an important one: she is small! Just right for a couple. For some insight from someone who actually has tens of thousands of bluewater under his belt go to atomvoyager.com. You can get a good boat and equip her well for $50-75,000 (2023), less if you are a bargain hunter. You don't need an engine, electronics, radio communication. You do need a sound, seaworthy vessel with excellent sails, heavy, robust ground tackle, and properly equiped. Read every thing you can, especially Eric Hiscock, Hal Roth, the Pardeys, Peter Tangvald and others from the Classic Era of sail, 1920-1970, before radio communication destroyed the sense of self reliance that once was the hallmark of deep water sailors.
Exactly! Add Bernard Moitessier to that list, sir. he sailed a steel double ender 43 footer around the horn from East to West and then back from West to East. This was a ketch rig. That boat did NOT have an engine! tell you what these fat transom boats would be toast anywhere South of the roaring 40's. yep stay very close to shore maybe even inside would be best. you know places Key Biscayne, the Chesapeake, places like that. The Amazon would work too but getting there could be a real issue. Moitessier's boat had an inside steering position that's the kinda shit he sailed in. Sadly he wrecked his boat on rocks off SW coast of Mexico in a hurricane. Died shortly thereafter from colon cancer. sad story about a great sailer. yeah these people get scared shitless on 15 degree heel what a joke! yeah they LOVE downwind winging it I hated it! especially here in FL in the summer. of course they got that pretty motor running with the A/C ON. yep. Good point on injury, sir. calling 911 in the middle of the Atlantic isn't gonna help you much on that pretty little SAT phone after you just took a big on that nice fat transom there because you ran atta fuel trying to run away from it. what a joke! buy a houseboat they're even bigger.
Twin steering helms. The ultimate affectation on a cruising boat. Makes me ill just looking at the stupid things. Also boats that are white below remind me of a Clorox bottle.
What a load of rubbish, confirmed by the comment about twin rudders. I have an OC45 and race against twin rudder boats. They might hold longer before they lose grip but they catch everything and with no flow over the rudder are a nightmare when berthing
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This video is Part 3 of a 4-Part Series on Monohull Sailing Yachts. If you want to see more, check out these other videos:
Top 5 Monohull Sailing Yachts Over $250K | Price & Features | Part 1
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Top 5 Monohull Sailing Yachts Over $500K | Price & Features | Part 2
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Top 5 Classic Sailing Yachts by Spirit Yachts | Price & Features
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This boats are not all under 250K
taking a look at the neels and dragonfly and rapido for now as they tic a lot of boxes and i don't like the sail drive sticking through a big hole in the bottom...i don't trust that and to much maintenance
"Starting price.”
Great review hoverer one thing missing are VIKO boats from polish shipyard vikoyachts.I purchased vikos35 ,which is a beautiful 37 feet monohull under 80 000 eur, and this was with accessories on top of base price.Very affordable boat and I am glad I picked it instead of some second hand Bavaria or hanse
Thanks for this review! I’m in the search of mine and your list is extremely helpful
Glad to be of help! Thanks for watching!
You get you pay for. Halberg Rassey for me .
No my friend. You get what you can afford and by the time most can afford to Rassy it's less sensible than the boats on this list.
is that good?
Beautiful yacht! Great price for a new yacht without the worries of an yacht.
I would suggest going to some boats with displacement hulls and narrow aft to handle following seas if you intend to do ocean crossings. If the boat is mostly for lying at anchor, your list is excellent. I'm looking at a Swan 46 MK1 circa 1986, a Pacific Seacraft 40, or similar that will be more comfortable when things get a bit gnarly.
Interesting boat choices! Those are true classics. I guess I might just create a new video focusing on blue water yachts sometime soon. Thanks for dropping by!
It's not really that difficult or expensive to get a Production Bost fit to Cross Oceans tbh, though my last boat a long keel shallow draft built in 1978, complies with your specification wants. I has to be faced that tens, if not hundreds of thousands of Production boats, are crossing Oceans pretty much every year, and rarely with any problems An EU CE A Rating is a pretty good guide tbh, even though generally CE anything isn't that great . Not overpowering with sails too large, and easy Sail Handling help a lot. and in that regard, .I like in mast furling Main, which if Bluewater Spec tri radial Dacron battenless, up goes furling and unfurling reliability, and down goes chafe and wear andvtear, pluscyou get back most of the performance of a fully battened Cross Cut Dacron Main - according to the Sailmaker anyway. with a strongly built self tacking jib, which can be reefed on a Furler, you've got a Storm Jib in place already, and it can be balanced with reefs in the Main as well, both done in seconds if this turn nasty. a good Sprayhood to hide behind, plus Bathing Platform folded up into the Transom, and your Cockpit is pretty secure against following Seas, and is greatly assisted with Chines bow to Stern, giving a lot of buoyancy to the rear end of the boat, which can be further assisted with a bow sea anchor, or drogue off the Stern. which can make things a lot more comfortable while riding things out. The most important changes I'd make to increase reliability, are not that expensive, and are among what .I would specify for a new boat, or would be sure to get checked for and replaced if they aren't, is 316 Stainless Steel Mast Fittings, because I don't want aluminium ones failing at the wrong time, which Sod's Law, they Will. Other than that, secure handholds from the Companionway to Port and Starboard to the Forecabin, which means they're there on the way back, a U shaped galley you can still use that you can wedge yourself into securely to get hot drinks and food while riding out a Storm, and with the essential thorough checkover of everything on the boat being in excellent Condition and serviced before setting off, just like you with a boat up to 5 times the price, things should be fine, as long as you pay the same attention to the journey you have to on that expensive boat. Then When you get where you are going, and you have arrived in your very comfortable floating home below decks, you have an excellent Cocpit in which you will spend most of your days at Anchor. Seems a really good deal to me, which as if now, is why my next boat looks as though it is going to be a Jeanneau Sun Odyssey 440 Shallow Draft (5'2" ), because I like getting into places, and being able to get out of them again helps, plus it really opens up places like the Bahamas, the USA inner Coastal Waterway, etc. Yes the boat will have a little side drift on a Reach, but I've never found it to be anything like enough to worry about. I'd like bigger, but that raises too many issues, and for my Next boat the 440 is Comfy and big enough for me, plus to have a few guests aboard when necessary, plus I'm too old to worry about a boat big enough to grow into. I'll let you know perhaps, after crossing Atlantic and Pacific, if my approach has changed, but it could be a fair few years. Best Wishes and Fair Winds. Bob. 👍🙂
Pacific Seacraft 40 is so fine. Good choice, William. Go with that. I really liked you comment about lying at anchor. We should sail sometime.
@@brownnoise357 Just one comment on your list. A self-tacking jib is great when things are going well. But it makes things more difficult when you need to heave to. It's not impossible. But it will usually require someone going forward at a time that the preference is to stay in the cockpit.
@@williamstreet4304
100% agreed. improved if it's a Furling jib, but imho, that confirms to me anyway how pointless a jib is? May as well have say a 125% Genoa on a furler, and an oversized powerful winch, to assist with good furling when things go bad. I'm a Convert to not having Canvas up at bow or Stern due to counterproductive leverage and seesaw effects and only having reduced canvas/staysail in the Centre of the boat when heaving to. There's a very good lecture to this effect on TH-cam, which reinforced my observations, and added to them, so fully furl Genoa, with enough sheets to wind around and lock it closed, no Ketch, and a Stronly reinforced in mast furling Main, for a small area of cloth outside the mast to keep in the Hove to slick water area as best as possible while still making a bit of progress. tbh, I'll likely fit an oil dripper tube to the bowsprit, just in case, while trying to avoid getting into such situations in the first place. Which sfter some really bad experiences, such as with the Bay of Biscay, have me taking sensible routes 9n the Continental Shelf not far off coast, doing weather window hops instead, and getting nice stopovers as a result. No Rush, etc. Best Wishes and Fair Winds. Bob. 👍
Hanse 388 built in the UK? It's a German company that's has his production in Greifswald in the North-East of Germany .
You can buy used boats for cheaper than that. Plus if you want to put it thru it learning curve then it's ideal pick. Tho many sun cruiser available but true live aboard all weather protection especially for cockpit helm is a must. Good Presentation ☝️😎
Thank you for the nice comment!
Hanse hulls are made in Poland and final production is in Germany.
Just found your channel. I’d like to see a blue water, live aboard & circumnavigation mono hull and catamaran break downs. Seem the mono hull and catamaran count downs you’ve done, do not specify whether they’re circumnavigation capable vessels. Thanks in advance!
Thank you! I appreciate the feedback and suggestions. Let me see what I can do!
None of these wide body transom boats are for heavy off shore cruising. they are NOT gonna handle a following sea very well. for one they're aft cockpit. for off shore you want a mid cockpit (or you better know how to swim!). You also want a steel or ferro-cement hull, not glass. there's other things too related to the rudder & keel. most of these boats do NOT have the rudder mounted to the keel ad double support UNDER the rudder. they just mounted on a big "stick" out there well separated from the keel. not good if you get grounded or an Orca tries to eat your rudder (which they've been known to do IF they get playful enough) Yeah juveniles are juveniles regardless of the species! As far as cats are concerned? stay inside (giant waves can either roll them or even pitch pole them). you just lost your boat and maybe even your life.
@@leecowell8165 Ferrocement? what century are you in ?
Nice list! , 46.1 would be the choice, just wondering on the price of the new swan 48 ?
the 46.1 starts at 250k euro, before options. i bet the swan is twice that
@@bradsmgads1302 definitely! As I said before in my comment (just wondering) 😊
@@sultanrashid2394 wish i liked a less expensive hobby lol
I will say the 46.1 is definitely not under $250k. I would look at the 40.1 to get closer to the $250k price range
@@sailordave I agree tho that. I got a price near 400.000 euros about $453.000. So that is of the list. BUT, the price is right there, but without anything to it. STANDARD BOAT AS PER STANDARD SPECIFICATION (3 CABINS, 2 HEADS, TWIN AFT) 213.900,00 €. :)
Hanse 388 is built in Greifswald, Germany at the Hanse main yard - not in the UK….
Thanks for the input!
Hi Matt do u have to be in Germany to pick it up
Can you point me in the direction to purchase a 46.1 for under 250k please?
buy a bavaria cruiser 46
@@lorenzo5900 send me a link please?
Beneteau oceanis is beautifull. But when i saw on the yachtworld the pricetag is more than $250k
Like 2 times more
Im a fan of the older Oceans - 2005 - 2009 46 -50 Wonder if youd do a review on those ?
For sportfishing yachts? That's a great suggestion. Let me see what I can do.
Why don't boats have solar panels on the deck and LFP batteries instead of diesel these days?
Solar panels and Lithium Iron Phosphate (LiFePO4) batteries are becoming more popular in the boating industry, especially in sailing yachts, for their eco-friendly and cost-effective benefits. Many sailors are making the transition to solar power and LiFePO4 batteries to reduce their carbon footprint and reliance on fossil fuels. The transition might take time as it often involves retrofitting existing vessels or designing new ones to accommodate these systems. Are you considering a sailboat with these technologies, or do you have a specific interest in eco-friendly boating solutions?
These are boats ideal suited for staying in the harbour. The Salona 380 should be included in here. Much, much, much better constructed (steel frame, vinylester resins, etc. )
Interesting suggestion! We'll look it up.
This list looks like it is composed by a brochure drooler, not a real sailor. My apologies if not true. Have you tried any of these? E.g. the sound level in a Hanse when it is raining and blowing outside. The Beneteau with its low ballast ratio and single laminat hull? What happened e.g. to the Bavaria, Elan, Dehler and Grand Soleil?
Apology accepted. There will always be trade offs with each vessel. As a sailor and a regular of boating trade shows, I’ve developed my own preferences. However, I’m still open to test out new ones that I’m not familiar with. To each her own, as they say.
You are right, sounds like a brochure. Bolted keel, integrated ladder and a balsa core are hardly features to highlight.
Where's Oceanis 30.1?
could you advise why bavaria is not in the list? ))
オセアニスは高いイメージがありました。オプション無しだと思いますが、hanse と同じ価格帯。
No creo que estes bien informada sobre los precios de los barcos de esta comparativa, el jeanneau 349, en ningun caso vale 190.000, y el beneteau pasa bastante de los 250000, saludos desde el cariño.
Hi...sorry you forgot mention Bavaria cruiser series
So I heard! Plenty of fans out of my radar, might just go ahead and make a video just featuring their latest yachts sometime soon.
LOvely footage!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Phillip Vial
I notice no reference to Dehler yachts. Were they considered at all?
We’ll feature them in another video soon. Thanks for the suggestion!
Viko 35s check it out 😊
Will definitely do!
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Video is only a year old and none of these boats are even close to the prices quoted.
those boats in the video are not base price lol
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Cost or price that you put here is too low, for example, HANSE 458, cost should be 350k or more
Swanson 42
That’s a great boat!
I think this is just a base price how about the total price with equipment.
That’s right. These are MSRPs minus add-ons, taxes, and other fees.
@@HarbourMastersTV Meaningless, since they all have different configurations. You can only compare prices if you define a standard list of features and options.
this prices aren’t real, this are the start prices and if you want to buy one of them you’ll pay something like 100k more than the start price.
Of course these are MSRPs. You'd have to check your own state taxes, add agent's or import fees, insurance, mooring permits, the list goes on, but we all know that.
@@HarbourMastersTV More important is that the option list on any of these boats includes most of the amenities that make extended sailing enjoyable and will likely add $100K to any of them. Nice to dream, thanks for the fun
Can you do a top five under 2500$, lol..
For small sailing dinghies, that might actually be possible!
You will be forcing me to buy a smaller boat. I need a intercoastal waterway friendly sailboat with less than 65 foot above the waterline and marina friendly/bahamas friendly with a draft around 5 foot. Seems none of these boats will work for me.
Might be a lot of ask for this price range nowadays, especially brand new!
@@HarbourMastersTV Not a lot to ask. I'm 72 and not able to take one of these to sea but could escape a hurricane via the intercoastal waterway where it is very protected. Need to anchor in shallower waters because sharks have proliferated and greater choice of anchorage. So a shoal or lifting keel is what i will need when i get the money to go buy something. So also i may be forced to buy something used because at my age i don't want any waiting list.
@@randalladdison537 Different strokes for different folks, as they say! For that kind of use, a swing keel is definitely a must. Would love to hear more once you've decided on a boat. Thank you for your comments!
@@HarbourMastersTV I'm probably going to look seriously at high performance catamarans and trimarans...at 72 years old 25 degrees of heeling gets too tiring all day. I get tired of standing on my ear all day long. And these monohulls roll around like a pig in following seas and at anchor.
you need a motor yacht not a sail. wtf good is a sail in the intracoastal its gonna stay in its wrapper! a 65 foot sailer is a HUGE boat! I sailed on a double ender back in the day with a 60 foot waterline and it was HUGE (in the middle with its 18' beam). I mean this thing looked like a pregnant guppy. steel hull built in the 40's in NZ, this thing was a TANK! the captain and his wife & kids spent 4 weeks cleaning the hull in the Bay of Fundy back in the early 60's every summer. yeah with that kinda beam those barnacles have a LOTTA room to attach to as the wetted surface area was huge compared to its length. this boat also had a huge keel musta weighed 10 tons.
Beneteau 46, for 250k? I'll take 2. Sell one at 450k get one for free.
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Sirius DS 40 is better than all these
It's true the Sirius DS 40 is a well-regarded boat model known for its performance, safety, and comfort features. We're keen on giving their lineup a review as well.
I did not particularly like any of the 5 roomy but stubby and non-luxurious boats, and I liked their videos even less, they seemed like ads provided by their makers, with irrelevant human models smiling like idiots. The prices are low, but so is what you get for your $. ALSO, you need to give us a range for the annual operating, insuring, berthing etc costs.
Your observations on the videos and the need for more comprehensive cost information are duly noted. If you have specific preferences or criteria for roomy boats that you find luxurious, feel free to share, and perhaps we can tailor future recommendations accordingly. It's a valuable consideration for future content. Thank you for the feedback!
Thanks the main problem of the 5 stubby ones is their exterior design, which is not as graceful as usual sailboats. Maybe they look better up close. I understand they need that shape so they can be roomy without costing much more.
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A Master should know how to properly pronounce the name of the boat builder. (Engough said)
I tried. German and French aren't my strongest suit.
@@HarbourMastersTV What, this is an actual person talking? I thought this was a computer-generated voice. 😅
From our experience: Janneau and Hanse are bad quality.
No Bavaria? Huh!
What garbage. "...a draft of 6-8 feet." Lotsa luck cruising on a 40' boat with an 8' draft. I could get through only the first three "selections." These boats were not designed for ocean voyaging, but by salespeople for boat shows where the water is always mirror flat and the weather always pleasant. These boats purposely appeal to lubbers, especially lubberly wives delighted by tons of room in the cabin and who never think about the boat being hove down on her beam ends and the unfortunate crew being thrown out of a pilot berth on the high side, falling through space before fetching up on the far side 13' feet below. A fractured skull, neck, spine, or femur at sea is very likely to prove fatal. Remember catastrophic injuries frequently occur in weather conditions which make rescue by outside entities impossible.
You want to go ocean sailing? First, LEARN TO SAIL. No one ever thinks about buying a plane and simply taking off. No, most people learn to fly first. And then getting plenty of experience, a couple of years' worth, before taking their family up. Yet many want to purchase a sailboat and shove right off. Learn to sail first.
A very good choice for a couple is a Contessa 32. For many reasons, but an important one: she is small! Just right for a couple.
For some insight from someone who actually has tens of thousands of bluewater under his belt go to atomvoyager.com. You can get a good boat and equip her well for $50-75,000 (2023), less if you are a bargain hunter. You don't need an engine, electronics, radio communication. You do need a sound, seaworthy vessel with excellent sails, heavy, robust ground tackle, and properly equiped. Read every thing you can, especially Eric Hiscock, Hal Roth, the Pardeys, Peter Tangvald and others from the Classic Era of sail, 1920-1970, before radio communication destroyed the sense of self reliance that once was the hallmark of deep water sailors.
Exactly! Add Bernard Moitessier to that list, sir. he sailed a steel double ender 43 footer around the horn from East to West and then back from West to East. This was a ketch rig. That boat did NOT have an engine! tell you what these fat transom boats would be toast anywhere South of the roaring 40's. yep stay very close to shore maybe even inside would be best. you know places Key Biscayne, the Chesapeake, places like that. The Amazon would work too but getting there could be a real issue. Moitessier's boat had an inside steering position that's the kinda shit he sailed in. Sadly he wrecked his boat on rocks off SW coast of Mexico in a hurricane. Died shortly thereafter from colon cancer. sad story about a great sailer. yeah these people get scared shitless on 15 degree heel what a joke! yeah they LOVE downwind winging it I hated it! especially here in FL in the summer. of course they got that pretty motor running with the A/C ON. yep. Good point on injury, sir. calling 911 in the middle of the Atlantic isn't gonna help you much on that pretty little SAT phone after you just took a big on that nice fat transom there because you ran atta fuel trying to run away from it. what a joke! buy a houseboat they're even bigger.
what about a review of the bran new Elan Impression 43 blue water cruiser.
aharrr me hards you got anything like the black Perl ....nice vid
What about any Bvaria yachts? Salona?
Pass on any 'Plastic Fantastic' sailboat.
Any boat that doesn't leak is a good boat.
Twin steering helms. The ultimate affectation on a cruising boat. Makes me ill just looking at the stupid things. Also boats that are white below remind me of a Clorox bottle.
I love them. They look great and seems confortable when sailing
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What a load of rubbish, confirmed by the comment about twin rudders. I have an OC45 and race against twin rudder boats. They might hold longer before they lose grip but they catch everything and with no flow over the rudder are a nightmare when berthing