The Borg pulling a systematic takeover the entire fleet in the most epic way possible. Alice Krige returning to voice her from First Contact was marvelous.
El regreso más increíble de los Borg de todos los tiempos. Qué horror y al mismo tiempo satisfacción escuchar "We are the Borg. All resistance is futile"
@sparquisdesade nope, this plan was already set in motion before that. Also they should've more anti borg weapons because of that, but I guess the writers forgot about that
@@sparquisdesade No, it was because the S31 or whomever took the Changelings prisoner and tortured them or whatnot didn't ELIMINATE THEM- if you're gonna commit war crimes, remove the evidence... completely.
If Shelby is really dead - and there seems to be a high probability - at least she died the way that she would have wanted... outranking everyone else.
@@bertholdbach4959 I wouldn't bet against that... but it IS Star Trek, and we haven't heard absolute confirmation yet, so she could possibly come back as an Organian, or something.
These old TNG characters are glorified red shirts in the writers eyes, Hugh, Ro, Shelby, ect. As much as I'd like to see them get better send offs the writers are cold to these characters.
The borg taking over the fleet just has me thinking of Battlestar Galactica of the cylons taking over the colonial defenses an shutting down all the Battlestars.
i had that thought as well. This is also a callback i feel to Voyager's Dark Frontier. you know the Queen telling Seven of Nine about using a NANOVIRUS TO assimilate humanity.
@@SupremeCommanderBaiser takes one to know one. Remember in First Contact Picard was all "killing them is a mercy" which honestly is more out of character for Picard than this entire series.
i love that even f its a "disgraced" criminal and retired admiral picard his voice carries so much weight that even when saying something crazy admiral shelby was going to listen to him,she knows that man is the stuff of legends
Admiral Shelby and the Admiralty has apparently never heard the motto: "All of this has happened before and all of this will happen again!!" Especially when Starfleet's arc-nemesis is a cybernetic AI race hellbent to destroy humanity. The full automation and virtual linking of all Starfleet ships is the dumbest decision the Admiralty has ever made 😥😰
@@darknight991 I mean it is kinda a dumb idea but that's always been star trek. The top dogs come up with dumb things and the Enterprise captain and crew need to clean it up.
Great another situation where Starfleet is destroying itself because of their enemies. Last time this happened was recently in Star Trek Prodigy and that was because of technology from the future and the Borg did examine the device that would infect Federation ships in an earlier episode and they talked to the Medusan crew member and the Borg scanned it and they said they could stop the device that was on the Protostar but they would need to assimilate the technology to due so. The Protostar crew did not allow this as they knew the Borg would just use it themselves to take down the Federation or worse. The crew of the Protostar prevented that and escaped but whatever information the Borg acquired must of gave them an idea to do this in Star Trek Picard to infect the Federation ships and their youngest crewmembers to become new borg drones and destroy the Federation from within. And they were being sneaky about it by manipulating the Changeling splinter group into also infiltrating the Federation just to leave a Trojan horse in all of their transporters. Edit: I just remembered that in an episode of Star Trek Voyager, the Borg Queen showed Seven of Nine one of her plans to assimilate Earth when she forced her to rejoin the Borg again or she would assimilate Voyager. The plan involved dispersing Borg nanites in the atmosphere. Seven of Nine told her that this plan would take years to work. The Borg Queen told her that they can wait. It looks like she used parts of that plan into this one.
Starfleet has apparently never learned the motto: "All of this has happened before and all of this will happen again!!" That's the level of high vigilance you need when your arc-nemesis is a cybernetic AI race hellbent to destroy humanity as we know it.
Isn’t this very similar to a plot the Borg queen once discussed with seven of nine in a episode of Voyager when they talked about distributing a nano virus on earth to slowly assimilate mankind
4:10 - 4:45 All senior officers in these Starfleet ships are being killed off. Very depressing scene indeed. Does this mean Tom Paris, Torres, Kira, Dax, Freeman, Mariner, Boimler, Sonya Gomez, Christine Vale, and others we knew from TNG, DS9, VOY, and LD are now likely dead or at least are fighting for their lives? Definitely the darkest day in Federation's history 😥😰
@@strategoo I'm sure some of them are still fighting their Borg-assimilated members in their respective ships. But their current welfare is very dire indeed. This is definitely the darkest day ever in the Federation's history 😉🙄
Upon further reflection, Kira and Dax might still be stationed on DS9 and not affected by all the shitstorm going on Sector 001. They might come to assist the TNG crew later, provided they take security precautions (not bringing in any crew member 25 years and under. I'd increase it to 30 years and under just to be save).
But it always confuse me it because the Borg thing was always assimilate everyone they never killed unless it was absolutely necessary, so what changed
I always thought there was something that they could do about the transporters uncompromising Starfleet one way or the other, either buy something inherently wrong with them for so long that no one noticed or as a backdoor to something else. I'm glad I figured that! Great episode
@@NeoakiraIV Pretty much. In the scene in the previous episode where both he and Troi are inside his head approaching the red door, I half expected to hear this as they were about to open it before they cut to the credits: th-cam.com/video/zc-gtIHDhbE/w-d-xo.html
Very much so Star Trek's version of Order 66. I would say that "Order 66" can now be defined as any villain who wants to take out a sci-fi group or organization. That while not blameless and has its problems is the villain taking it way to far by committing mass genocide against said organization.
Are we sure thats the whole fleet? Doesn't look like more than a few hundred ships. Starfleet had more than that in a single battle of the Dominion war.
That was about... 3 or 4 fleets during the retaking of DS9. A fleet is approximately 100 or so ships, give or take, including combat ships, excluding logistics elements.
@@aiosquadron Yes, 600 ships to retake DS9. Which was made clear as not everything Starfleet had, as they had to leave before even more starships arrived. But the Borg take-over looked like 100-150 ships, tops.
@@batfleckforever3594 Getting vaporized more like it. The Borg won't be taking any chances when they kill one of the most senior expert on the Borg in Starfleet😉
This has the potential of being Starfleet's "Fall of the Twelve Colonies" moment if Picard & Co failed to save the next episode. And apparently they did not learn from the mistake made in the other universe by networking all their ships together🙄😒
@@kadindarklord exactly. The senior command staff of starfleet massacred along with countless captains and other senior officers. How many ships destroyed or damaged in the aftermath. And honestly after this I wouldn't be surprised if they want to exterminate the Borg fully (like what happened with the confederation in Picard Season 2). And for the kids that survive...they are going to need a lot of therapy (which we see in Star Trek to really suck). And as for Jack Crusher (if he survives) he might want to never show his face ever again.
@@andrewnlarsen When is Starfleet going to learn. The Texas-class was the M5 Computer 2.0. This system was too Borg-like and it's even commented on BEFORE the Borg take it over.
I don’t know how the Federation could ever recover from this. Even if everyone by some miracle gets de-assimilated, they’ll be. wrecked with guilt over what they were forced to do
Who? A large part of them wouldn't have hurt a single person, and a lot of those that did, may have better psychological coping about the matter. Yes this will heavily affect hundreds to thousands, but that's it. Most people are on planets, not these bunch of ships.
This demonstrates why infiltration as a mechanism of take-over is far more effective than brute force. The Borg tried to take the Federation by open conquest twice and failed twice. By worming their way in from the inside, they accomplished what they never could.
Also my thought, where are the thousands of ships from DS9 and even if they downscaled the fleet. There is no way starfleet has this few ships, especially when there are many crucial things like border patrol long range science and so on that cannot be paused just for "frontier day", not to mention the likely massive reserve forces being of duty during peace times
2:56 So sad to see we're not gonna see a "Star Trek: New Frontier" series now that one of its main protagonists has apparently been killed #RIPAdmiralElizabethShelby
@@neomt2 "New Frontier" was set in 2373, nearly three decades before "Picard" Season 3 event. Technically it is still possible to feature Commander/Captain Shelby. Perhaps in cartoon form just like when she appeared in "Lower Decks" 😉
I think I have a pretty awesome idea for the ending to the series; a climactic final battle between the Starfleet- Borg Cooperative Alliance and the Borg Collective, (and before anyone jumps at my throat, I know that season 3 is already done, and there is only a slight possibility for a fourth season, but I think this is a really cool idea, mainly because it involves Species 8472 A.K.A. The Undine as we never really got to see much of them in live action) All Starfleet channels: "We're being overwhelmed, we need reinforcements! "Hull Breach! Hull Breach! Hull- AhhhahhhAHhh!" "Today is a good day to die! *Explosion*" "Warp core breach, all hands aban-AAhhaahahhHhaaaAAh!" Seven of Nine: "Even with the Borg Cooperative's counter assault tactics we will still be overrun in a matter of minutes and earth will fall!" Picard: "Then we fight to the end, engage!" *Comm lines static to life* "This is Admiral Tuvok of the U.S.S. Voyager Bio-Command, I hope you are ready for the biggest surprise since the end of the Klingon - Federation War" - Fluidic rifts open up and out comes Tuvok riding in with the cavalry, as Undine bio-ships of every type (excluding the planet killers) pour through the rifts and shred the Borg Collective to pieces, and use hazard emitter beams to repair damaged Starfleet and Borg Cooperative vessels, tractor beams to collect escape pods, and transporters to beam over Undine repair crews to reach places the hazard emitters could not, and medics to dispense anti-borg immunosupport nanites, and provide general medical assistance, all while chanting in unison; "The Many Must Survive"
Yes. It's Elizabeth Dennehy reprising her "Best of Both World's" role as Commander Shelby. We also got a confirmation that her first name is Elizabeth - to the delight of the "New Frontier" novels fans.
How can there be so many under 25 year olds in Starfleet? I get it for grunts on the field but in Starships you should certainly have at least a decade worth of experience in service. But still an ingenious way of the Borg to attack the cerebral cortex of young people, which is still not fully developed and vulnerable
She focused on sending a fleetwide message instead of worrying about her own butt. I'd say she went out like a very good admiral with a responsibility for everyone.
I know it's honestly such hack writing, and most of the their audience are in their 20's to early 30's. They did something like this in an anime called "valvraave" as well. Were adults are evil and only kid's can save the world there was a literal sing along car wash scene that was supposed to stop the big geopolitical war going on... still holds my top spot for worst anime ever created.. Next to "gate".
Now that this happened I'm kind of wondering something. After they get this whole mess sorted out, are they going to ban transporter use to anyone under 25? So that they can't be infected with the Borg program? At least until they can clear this 'virus' from the transport programming?
I know nothing about the Picard series 3, so can someone who does explain to me how people could be assimilated by a signal without any drone injecting nano-probes in to their victims? Were there dormant nano-probes already in their system?
The probes were already in the system as the Borg made an alliance with rogue changelings who stole Picard's old physical body from a secret Federation installation and extract borg altered DNA from it and used the transporters to put the DNA into everyone that goes through a transporter.
That is a continuing problem with Picard, when he needs to convey information, he makes it so flowery he runs out of time to tell them anything useful. He is told comm is going down, he says we only have one chance to warn the fleet, and then he goes off the rails with a long winded introduction that actually prevents him from saying anything useful.....where is Jellicoe when you need him! He would have got straight to the point without "Admiral Shelby, I know you might find this hard to believe...." fluff.
Although this is epic for the final, I have to say always going to the Borge has made next generation pretty obvious. And how did The Dominion feel having themselves be quasi Slave to The Borge? Ya they are just group of changing but it must humble them. Ah yes what happened to Gehadar there henchmen, guess they Changelings as weak after all, and let them Fry?!
Captain Shaw mentioned earlier that "the real Borg is still out there" meaning that most of the Borg Collective apart from Jurati's are still hostile against the Federation 🙄😒
This is the main Borg Collective referred to earlier by Shaw as "the real Borg." Jurati's Collective is just one small group among many other Collectives, most still harboring hostile attitude towards the Federation 😒😮💨
The only good outcome of the senior Starfleet officers massacre by the assimilated junior officers is that all Badmirals, Bad Captains, and Section 31 officers are now dead, allowing for a full refresh and reboot of the Federation back to its original mission: "To explore strange new worlds. To seek out new lives and new civilizations. To boldly go where no one has gone before!!" 🙄😒
@@strategoo I guess we'd find out next week. In any case, this is going to be the biggest blow in Starfleet's history in terms of its loss of manpower and talent 🙄😒
I beg to differ, this happened because Section 31 was not here to stop this nonsense. Section 31 protects Starfleet against its arrogance in believing to have defeated for ever their enemies. This proves the need for Section 31. Even Crusher suggested the use of the same tactics that Section 31 used against the Korrigans.
Section 31 is necessary to protect Starfleet. This version of Order 66 is one that nothing good can come of it. At least the Star Wars version the Jedi Order needed to fall even the surviving Jedi realized this.
"Computer, locate Alandra LaForge" "The lifesigns of Alandra LaForge are no longer compatible with human designation" I mean, not great but not what he asked...
What I want to know is what happens to you if you're 24 or 26 (or even 19 vs 24). It's not like the frontal lobe development thing they are blaming this on is some kind of switch that flips at midnight on your 25th birthday. It's obviously a gradual process over many years. So can you be half Borg? Or is it a probabilistic thing?
Only thing i wish had been diffrent is that it had been Nechayev getting gunned down on the Enterprise F instead of Shelby. I feel Shelby wouldnt have been the one backing a plan to link all the ships together but that seems exactly like something Nechayev and he dumbass would be all giddy about till it blew up in her face
"'WE' are The Borg...". Clearly Central Hive does not like Jurati sub hive. 2:18 obsessed. That voice....its better or the same as First Contact. But more Final. Alice Kriege...
The Borg as a concept never recovered from what the writers did to them in Voyager. I still cringe every time another "drone" starts talking as if "the collective" is a separate entity they would speak to like any Federation captain would hail Starfleet Command. Seems clear that it's done "for the audience" but as part of said audience, it just makes me feel like the show thinks I'm stupid. You know what would be more menacing than a Borg drone expositioning for us by reporting to the collective? A Borg drone that says nothing unless it's telling some non-Borg that resistance is futile, but otherwise performs whatever task it's meant to do, silently. The Borg were scarier when they actually seemed like a collective consciousness that simply acted, with whom negotiation was truly irrelevant.
Given Starfleet's extremely poor track record when it comes to automating starships, you would have thought that they would have realized that Fleet Formation was an astonishingly bad idea. But no, they just had to go and do it.
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The Borg pulling a systematic takeover the entire fleet in the most epic way possible. Alice Krige returning to voice her from First Contact was marvelous.
She played the Borg Queen in Voyager as well.
@@SpreadingtheMuse Yup and in the middle it was Susanna Thompson that also portrayed her in Voyager.
We will see her fully in episode 10
El regreso más increíble de los Borg de todos los tiempos. Qué horror y al mismo tiempo satisfacción escuchar "We are the Borg. All resistance is futile"
She be all like "Bitch, didja think I was _gone?_ "
Turns out McCoy was right about those damm transporters! 😂
Damn right he was😂
So was Pulaski.
Best comment I've read in a while 😅
There is going to be a lot PTSD for those poor assimilated crew men learning what happened after that.
New stories to be made
And it was all because Janeway didn't like how voyagert returned home the first time, so she had to go messing with fate, the borg and time travel
@sparquisdesade nope, this plan was already set in motion before that. Also they should've more anti borg weapons because of that, but I guess the writers forgot about that
@@sparquisdesade No, it was because the S31 or whomever took the Changelings prisoner and tortured them or whatnot didn't ELIMINATE THEM- if you're gonna commit war crimes, remove the evidence... completely.
If Shelby is really dead - and there seems to be a high probability - at least she died the way that she would have wanted... outranking everyone else.
Classic Shelby indeed. Well, she took two hits to the chest, i wouldnt bet that she survived.
@@bertholdbach4959 I wouldn't bet against that... but it IS Star Trek, and we haven't heard absolute confirmation yet, so she could possibly come back as an Organian, or something.
These old TNG characters are glorified red shirts in the writers eyes, Hugh, Ro, Shelby, ect. As much as I'd like to see them get better send offs the writers are cold to these characters.
@@bertholdbach4959 Yeah, two hits *that we saw.* I'd bet real money her corpse was filled with phaser bolt holes after that.
Yeah, this isn't star wars. ionized plasma kills here@@bertholdbach4959
The borg taking over the fleet just has me thinking of Battlestar Galactica of the cylons taking over the colonial defenses an shutting down all the Battlestars.
i had that thought as well. This is also a callback i feel to Voyager's Dark Frontier. you know the Queen telling Seven of Nine about using a NANOVIRUS TO assimilate humanity.
I had the same thoughts.
@@MLPDethDealr32 I had forgotten about that until I saw someone on tiktok talk about that.
I thought the same thing
CLYON NANOVIRUS DETECTED!
As a parent, the look on Geordi's face when he realized both his daughters were assimilated is an absolute gut punch
Gosh… when LaForge’s daughter turned around and said “we are the borg”… dang that was a mix of sad powerful and scary. Well done Terry Matalas.
The fact that Picard ordered "Stun Only"
He's come a long way from First Contact.
Idiotic. But he will save em in half an episode next week because the script says so.
@@SupremeCommanderBaiser takes one to know one.
Remember in First Contact Picard was all "killing them is a mercy" which honestly is more out of character for Picard than this entire series.
Pretty sure that was Shaw giving that command
@@SupremeCommanderBaiser And you will be watching every second of it 😅
He's not willing to give up on them all just yet.
I absolutely LOVE seeing DATA with this new personality
Lore might be dead, but Data inherits his dark and cynical humor 😉
When Data stopped Geordi from running up to the bridge, I somehow felt that in my heart.
Spastic
@@Kazuo1GData was right they needed a plan.
i love that even f its a "disgraced" criminal and retired admiral picard his voice carries so much weight that even when saying something crazy admiral shelby was going to listen to him,she knows that man is the stuff of legends
"Execute Order 66! I mean...eliminate all unassimilated!"
"EXTERMINATE! EXTERMINATE! EXTERMINATE!!"
“It will be done, my Lord.”
"It will be done, my Lord."
Release the kraken
On my signal, unleash hell.
Admiral Shelby and the Admiralty has apparently never heard the motto: "All of this has happened before and all of this will happen again!!" Especially when Starfleet's arc-nemesis is a cybernetic AI race hellbent to destroy humanity. The full automation and virtual linking of all Starfleet ships is the dumbest decision the Admiralty has ever made 😥😰
Ha! It was funny on all of the other videos you commented on!
Not. 😂
@@darknight991 I mean it is kinda a dumb idea but that's always been star trek. The top dogs come up with dumb things and the Enterprise captain and crew need to clean it up.
Indeed the reference to battlestar galactica is there....darker ships, resorting to museum ships a la battlestar galactica that are analog...
@@iaconof Yes, indeed.
One virus. One Borg Virus.
The ultimate trojan horse
Great another situation where Starfleet is destroying itself because of their enemies. Last time this happened was recently in Star Trek Prodigy and that was because of technology from the future and the Borg did examine the device that would infect Federation ships in an earlier episode and they talked to the Medusan crew member and the Borg scanned it and they said they could stop the device that was on the Protostar but they would need to assimilate the technology to due so. The Protostar crew did not allow this as they knew the Borg would just use it themselves to take down the Federation or worse. The crew of the Protostar prevented that and escaped but whatever information the Borg acquired must of gave them an idea to do this in Star Trek Picard to infect the Federation ships and their youngest crewmembers to become new borg drones and destroy the Federation from within. And they were being sneaky about it by manipulating the Changeling splinter group into also infiltrating the Federation just to leave a Trojan horse in all of their transporters.
Edit: I just remembered that in an episode of Star Trek Voyager, the Borg Queen showed Seven of Nine one of her plans to assimilate Earth when she forced her to rejoin the Borg again or she would assimilate Voyager. The plan involved dispersing Borg nanites in the atmosphere. Seven of Nine told her that this plan would take years to work. The Borg Queen told her that they can wait. It looks like she used parts of that plan into this one.
Starfleet has apparently never learned the motto: "All of this has happened before and all of this will happen again!!" That's the level of high vigilance you need when your arc-nemesis is a cybernetic AI race hellbent to destroy humanity as we know it.
This season is getting better and better 🖖🖖🖖 . This season is everything in my opinion . I really hype for the final episode next week .
I refuse to believe this is the entire Federation fleet.
1:10 - 1:20 WE ARE THE BORG! RESISTANCE IS FUTILE!!
Entire Fleet: "We are so screwed!!"
Well they're all in their early 20s, so it's just a phase. If the borg was a thing when I was 25 I might join them too just be apart of something 😄
Talk about peer pressure.
That's why Jack is so gung-ho when traveling to the Borg Cube! It's a way for him to say "F*** YOU!!" to his parents.
@@LGranthamsHeir pretty much, he is mentally broken by everything. And when one is in that state...well look at real life.
@James Gravil 😂 Good one!!!! Saying Resist is Futile is major peer pressure
@LGranthamsHeir 🤣 I wonder can Beverly punished a borg???
Isn’t this very similar to a plot the Borg queen once discussed with seven of nine in a episode of Voyager when they talked about distributing a nano virus on earth to slowly assimilate mankind
Exactly, basically the Borg Queen used a variation of this plan to take control of Starfront.
Dark Frontier part 2
@@kaidenshepard8446 🎯🎯🎯
4:10 - 4:45 All senior officers in these Starfleet ships are being killed off. Very depressing scene indeed. Does this mean Tom Paris, Torres, Kira, Dax, Freeman, Mariner, Boimler, Sonya Gomez, Christine Vale, and others we knew from TNG, DS9, VOY, and LD are now likely dead or at least are fighting for their lives? Definitely the darkest day in Federation's history 😥😰
Can’t believe that they are all dead.
@@strategoo I'm sure some of them are still fighting their Borg-assimilated members in their respective ships. But their current welfare is very dire indeed. This is definitely the darkest day ever in the Federation's history 😉🙄
Harry Kim would probably not be one of the assimilated officers, even if he were still an ensign.
@@VincentPascual Most likely not 😉😄
Upon further reflection, Kira and Dax might still be stationed on DS9 and not affected by all the shitstorm going on Sector 001. They might come to assist the TNG crew later, provided they take security precautions (not bringing in any crew member 25 years and under. I'd increase it to 30 years and under just to be save).
3:31 "Eliminate all unassimilated! Eliminate all unassimilated!!"
The Trek's perfect response to Dr Who's Dalek's "EXTERMINATE! EXTERMINATE!!"
It's like a combo of both the Cybermen and the Darleks
But it always confuse me it because the Borg thing was always assimilate everyone they never killed unless it was absolutely necessary, so what changed
“Execute Order 66! Execute Order 66!”
Ah you're a person of culture.
@@VTX00128 Thanks!!
I always thought there was something that they could do about the transporters uncompromising Starfleet one way or the other, either buy something inherently wrong with them for so long that no one noticed or as a backdoor to something else. I'm glad I figured that! Great episode
man Shelby is a DEEEEP cut. awesome
Dear god the borg have really gone too far this time.
Basically Star Trek's version of Order 66.
Lol wait is Jack Vader 🤔
@@NeoakiraIV Pretty much. In the scene in the previous episode where both he and Troi are inside his head approaching the red door, I half expected to hear this as they were about to open it before they cut to the credits: th-cam.com/video/zc-gtIHDhbE/w-d-xo.html
@@Primordial_Synapse suddenly the Borg Queen returns, she even was attached to the wall falling a part like Palpatine was
Very much so Star Trek's version of Order 66. I would say that "Order 66" can now be defined as any villain who wants to take out a sci-fi group or organization. That while not blameless and has its problems is the villain taking it way to far by committing mass genocide against said organization.
The scream of terror and confusion of the unassimilated crew is terrifying and soul crushing
This is what happens when Star Trek mixes with The Children of the Corn
So, it's the Federation version of The Purge.
Order 66.
Are we sure thats the whole fleet? Doesn't look like more than a few hundred ships. Starfleet had more than that in a single battle of the Dominion war.
That was about... 3 or 4 fleets during the retaking of DS9. A fleet is approximately 100 or so ships, give or take, including combat ships, excluding logistics elements.
@@aiosquadron Yes, 600 ships to retake DS9. Which was made clear as not everything Starfleet had, as they had to leave before even more starships arrived.
But the Borg take-over looked like 100-150 ships, tops.
Shelby has come far and is looking good!
Aaaannnd she's dead!
She's always kept herself well composed. And now she's decomposing.
@@killerdoritoWA Yeah. Bloody mad about that. 🤬
@@batfleckforever3594 Getting vaporized more like it. The Borg won't be taking any chances when they kill one of the most senior expert on the Borg in Starfleet😉
Not anymore. Took two pistol shots at near point blank to the chest... Doubt anyone's surviving that
"The time has come. Execute Order 66."
“It will be done, my Lord!”
This has the potential of being Starfleet's "Fall of the Twelve Colonies" moment if Picard & Co failed to save the next episode. And apparently they did not learn from the mistake made in the other universe by networking all their ships together🙄😒
Or in our case WOLF 359 ONLY WORSE.
I think is a fogone conclusion that everything will be okay, and the Borg wouldn't be the cause of fall of the federation, thanks to Discovery.
@@VandalAudi It might survive, but it won't be in great shape. That's my prediction.
@@kadindarklord exactly. The senior command staff of starfleet massacred along with countless captains and other senior officers. How many ships destroyed or damaged in the aftermath. And honestly after this I wouldn't be surprised if they want to exterminate the Borg fully (like what happened with the confederation in Picard Season 2). And for the kids that survive...they are going to need a lot of therapy (which we see in Star Trek to really suck). And as for Jack Crusher (if he survives) he might want to never show his face ever again.
@@andrewnlarsen When is Starfleet going to learn. The Texas-class was the M5 Computer 2.0. This system was too Borg-like and it's even commented on BEFORE the Borg take it over.
The modified Borg have all the firing accuracy of Storm Troopers.
I don’t know how the Federation could ever recover from this. Even if everyone by some miracle gets de-assimilated, they’ll be. wrecked with guilt over what they were forced to do
Who? A large part of them wouldn't have hurt a single person, and a lot of those that did, may have better psychological coping about the matter. Yes this will heavily affect hundreds to thousands, but that's it. Most people are on planets, not these bunch of ships.
What really would happen is all adults over 30 are dead and now everyone who is de assimilated are all in their 20s Federation is DOOOOOOMMEED
@@NeoakiraIV Or because of some writing trick everything is forgotten and there are no consequences.
@@Mofix222 Q entered the chat
This Borg mass assimilation is genius!
This demonstrates why infiltration as a mechanism of take-over is far more effective than brute force. The Borg tried to take the Federation by open conquest twice and failed twice. By worming their way in from the inside, they accomplished what they never could.
Borg could of done conquest if they sent more then one cube
shouldn't there be like dozens of fleets, thousands of ships? other thn that, this episode was brilliant!
Also my thought, where are the thousands of ships from DS9 and even if they downscaled the fleet.
There is no way starfleet has this few ships, especially when there are many crucial things like border patrol long range science and so on that cannot be paused just for "frontier day", not to mention the likely massive reserve forces being of duty during peace times
Do you really think they recalled the whole federation armada to earth? Not likely, id say it was 200 at most
The idea behind this scene was amazing writing.
A love. Jean Luc. Picard ❤❤
Oh look the battle of Endor, Star Trek style
2:56 So sad to see we're not gonna see a "Star Trek: New Frontier" series now that one of its main protagonists has apparently been killed #RIPAdmiralElizabethShelby
Unless...they reverse time or jump to another universe 😂
she was shot....technically we didnt see her die
@@randomrazr I'm almost sure she was vaporized just before they lost transmission to the-F
@@neomt2 "New Frontier" was set in 2373, nearly three decades before "Picard" Season 3 event. Technically it is still possible to feature Commander/Captain Shelby. Perhaps in cartoon form just like when she appeared in "Lower Decks" 😉
@@LGranthamsHeir she was shot the same way that Shaw was shot... and he wasn't vaporized, but he did die from his wounds.
About fucking time Borg return as the big menance not that-whatever it was we got in previous seasons.
“Hey they brought Shelby back! Maybe we’ll get a New Frontier adaptation - “
3:07
“…Oh.”
I dont like that Admiral Shelby got shot :( . Captain Shaw deserved better to
The changing and the Borg have been planing this along time.
WOWEE! Sorry I missed that one!😮🤯🤖🖖
Sir another starship is coming in..... It's The Galactica !
I wish there was a scene of battle between Agnes Borg vs This Borg Queen fleet
It's like Clive Barker's The Plague all over again.
Execute Order 66.
I just had this weird thought..,none of the enterprise crew were going to be at federation day, until this incident happened.
This is a very cool scene.
Picard is the best Trek ever!
Oh my god!
I think I have a pretty awesome idea for the ending to the series; a climactic final battle between the Starfleet- Borg Cooperative Alliance and the Borg Collective, (and before anyone jumps at my throat, I know that season 3 is already done, and there is only a slight possibility for a fourth season, but I think this is a really cool idea, mainly because it involves Species 8472 A.K.A. The Undine as we never really got to see much of them in live action)
All Starfleet channels: "We're being overwhelmed, we need reinforcements! "Hull Breach! Hull Breach! Hull- AhhhahhhAHhh!" "Today is a good day to die! *Explosion*" "Warp core breach, all hands aban-AAhhaahahhHhaaaAAh!"
Seven of Nine: "Even with the Borg Cooperative's counter assault tactics we will still be overrun in a matter of minutes and earth will fall!"
Picard: "Then we fight to the end, engage!"
*Comm lines static to life* "This is Admiral Tuvok of the U.S.S. Voyager Bio-Command, I hope you are ready for the biggest surprise since the end of the Klingon - Federation War" - Fluidic rifts open up and out comes Tuvok riding in with the cavalry, as Undine bio-ships of every type (excluding the planet killers) pour through the rifts and shred the Borg Collective to pieces, and use hazard emitter beams to repair damaged Starfleet and Borg Cooperative vessels, tractor beams to collect escape pods, and transporters to beam over Undine repair crews to reach places the hazard emitters could not, and medics to dispense anti-borg immunosupport nanites, and provide general medical assistance, all while chanting in unison; "The Many Must Survive"
Is the same Actress playing Admiral Shelby that played when Picard became Locutus of Borg?
Yes. It's Elizabeth Dennehy reprising her "Best of Both World's" role as Commander Shelby. We also got a confirmation that her first name is Elizabeth - to the delight of the "New Frontier" novels fans.
Yes that would be correct.
Don't worry folks. All will be as it was in the final episode with time travel. 😉
Shelby was so strong to have a thick place in command. I dunno if I wanna feel bad for her or not-
The Borg is so far the best metaphor for communism. I WILL NOT BE ASSIMILATED!
WUAAAAAAAAAAAAAAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO quien diria que BORG eran bastante poderosos O-----O
I miss Trek when it was still Trek.
Very old technology 1000 years agoo😮
Damn LaForge looks good.
How can there be so many under 25 year olds in Starfleet? I get it for grunts on the field but in Starships you should certainly have at least a decade worth of experience in service. But still an ingenious way of the Borg to attack the cerebral cortex of young people, which is still not fully developed and vulnerable
Thought Shelby got a raw deal. They could at least have given her a heroic death instead of having her go out like a bum.
She focused on sending a fleetwide message instead of worrying about her own butt. I'd say she went out like a very good admiral with a responsibility for everyone.
You know, this actually would’ve been really a problem if Starfleet officers and crew hadn’t been very young
I love that the underlying message is that adults are smarter and better than bratty younger characters
I know it's honestly such hack writing, and most of the their audience are in their 20's to early 30's. They did something like this in an anime called "valvraave" as well. Were adults are evil and only kid's can save the world there was a literal sing along car wash scene that was supposed to stop the big geopolitical war going on... still holds my top spot for worst anime ever created.. Next to "gate".
"Stun only"!? Oh Picard, you weak boy.
Script says so. Norton Anti Borg virus will save them all next week.
Because killing the college age kids instead of trying to save them sounds like the right thing to do?
Now that this happened I'm kind of wondering something. After they get this whole mess sorted out, are they going to ban transporter use to anyone under 25? So that they can't be infected with the Borg program? At least until they can clear this 'virus' from the transport programming?
They might as well
THEY'RE BACK :D
They're
@@SupremeCommanderBaiser Thanks, fixed now :)
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I know nothing about the Picard series 3, so can someone who does explain to me how people could be assimilated by a signal without any drone injecting nano-probes in to their victims? Were there dormant nano-probes already in their system?
The probes were already in the system as the Borg made an alliance with rogue changelings who stole Picard's old physical body from a secret Federation installation and extract borg altered DNA from it and used the transporters to put the DNA into everyone that goes through a transporter.
Stormtropper aim.
old people vs young people... Sometimes it feels like this show forgets most of it's current audience in their 20's and early 30's.
That is a continuing problem with Picard, when he needs to convey information, he makes it so flowery he runs out of time to tell them anything useful. He is told comm is going down, he says we only have one chance to warn the fleet, and then he goes off the rails with a long winded introduction that actually prevents him from saying anything useful.....where is Jellicoe when you need him! He would have got straight to the point without "Admiral Shelby, I know you might find this hard to believe...." fluff.
Last we saw him in canon, he was busy with his own admiraliatory duties on Earth.
We are the Borg
Big deal we are the mc Enroe
Although this is epic for the final, I have to say always going to the Borge has made next generation pretty obvious.
And how did The Dominion feel having themselves be quasi Slave to The Borge?
Ya they are just group of changing but it
must humble them. Ah yes what happened to Gehadar there henchmen, guess they Changelings as weak after all, and let them Fry?!
OK, so what happened to the truce with the Borg from last season!?!? I mean, Juratti is now their queen!
Retcon ...
Juratti is another queen, since she was taken from another timeline. That means there are now at least two.
Captain Shaw mentioned earlier that "the real Borg is still out there" meaning that most of the Borg Collective apart from Jurati's are still hostile against the Federation 🙄😒
Thank god for Retcons.
@@MarshallTheArtist Yea, no. It means Kurtzmans bs was retconned thank f.
Is Jurati behind this? Is she going to intercede in the finale? Why haven’t we heard from her?
This is the main Borg Collective referred to earlier by Shaw as "the real Borg." Jurati's Collective is just one small group among many other Collectives, most still harboring hostile attitude towards the Federation 😒😮💨
@@LGranthamsHeir Whatever the writers decide on, right? That seems to be the only reasoning they consistently apply.
@@MarshallTheArtist 😄😃
@@MarshallTheArtist We are the writers. Resistance is futile.
Waw look how old everyone is now
The only good outcome of the senior Starfleet officers massacre by the assimilated junior officers is that all Badmirals, Bad Captains, and Section 31 officers are now dead, allowing for a full refresh and reboot of the Federation back to its original mission: "To explore strange new worlds. To seek out new lives and new civilizations. To boldly go where no one has gone before!!" 🙄😒
…actually we don’t know if all senior Starfleet officers are dead.
@@strategoo I guess we'd find out next week. In any case, this is going to be the biggest blow in Starfleet's history in terms of its loss of manpower and talent 🙄😒
I beg to differ, this happened because Section 31 was not here to stop this nonsense. Section 31 protects Starfleet against its arrogance in believing to have defeated for ever their enemies. This proves the need for Section 31. Even Crusher suggested the use of the same tactics that Section 31 used against the Korrigans.
Section 31 is necessary to protect Starfleet. This version of Order 66 is one that nothing good can come of it. At least the Star Wars version the Jedi Order needed to fall even the surviving Jedi realized this.
"Computer, locate Alandra LaForge"
"The lifesigns of Alandra LaForge are no longer compatible with human designation"
I mean, not great but not what he asked...
I told you all
“ happy eradication day”
Sounds like what China is trying to do 😂
What I want to know is what happens to you if you're 24 or 26 (or even 19 vs 24). It's not like the frontal lobe development thing they are blaming this on is some kind of switch that flips at midnight on your 25th birthday. It's obviously a gradual process over many years.
So can you be half Borg? Or is it a probabilistic thing?
Shorthand.
Seems like a good analogy to what's currently going on in the US. My regards to Nashville.
Hey! I thought the Borg turned into good guys season 2? What happened? Get they get mad or something?
The script made up seperate borg queens and factions to unfugg the shite in season 1 and 2
Where is the borg from last season? Why didn't they help,?
Turn on the lights
😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎
This is Doctor Who level convoluted
But do she say collective we have time or collective we have the titan? o.0
If this is happening on Earth as well the casualties will be in the billions.
Im too old to be assimulated..
Wait, under the age of 25?
...what does this mean for the Lower Decks cast?
Only thing i wish had been diffrent is that it had been Nechayev getting gunned down on the Enterprise F instead of Shelby. I feel Shelby wouldnt have been the one backing a plan to link all the ships together but that seems exactly like something Nechayev and he dumbass would be all giddy about till it blew up in her face
Nechayev wouldn’t do that either she was hardcore but not dumb
@@NeoakiraIV nope she was petty dumb honestly
"'WE' are The Borg...". Clearly Central Hive does not like Jurati sub hive. 2:18 obsessed.
That voice....its better or the same as First Contact. But more Final. Alice Kriege...
The Borg as a concept never recovered from what the writers did to them in Voyager. I still cringe every time another "drone" starts talking as if "the collective" is a separate entity they would speak to like any Federation captain would hail Starfleet Command. Seems clear that it's done "for the audience" but as part of said audience, it just makes me feel like the show thinks I'm stupid. You know what would be more menacing than a Borg drone expositioning for us by reporting to the collective? A Borg drone that says nothing unless it's telling some non-Borg that resistance is futile, but otherwise performs whatever task it's meant to do, silently. The Borg were scarier when they actually seemed like a collective consciousness that simply acted, with whom negotiation was truly irrelevant.
¿? Que paso? Se supone que el voyager había destruido al colectivo y había traído tecnología del futuro con armas y escudos para destruir a los Borg??
not even babidi could break me. this borg can't even dream of touching me
Given Starfleet's extremely poor track record when it comes to automating starships, you would have thought that they would have realized that Fleet Formation was an astonishingly bad idea. But no, they just had to go and do it.
Handwaive it with Changeling infiltration/
3:05 who’s hubristic now? Hehe
The only death I liked.