Doctor Who 10x11 REACTION!! "World Enough and Time"

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  • Eric Shane Calvin and Aaron react to and discuss season 10 episode 11 of Doctor Who - World Enough and Time - #DoctorWho
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  • @hiccuphufflepuff176
    @hiccuphufflepuff176 4 ปีที่แล้ว +352

    Not a single spoiler and Eric still immediately guesses the 2 biggest twists of this episode, and 2 things in the next, like, spot on.

    • @elusive-osmium
      @elusive-osmium 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      He is supernaturally good at guessing this shit...

  • @srmcd1
    @srmcd1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +544

    "I... waited... for... youuuuu..."
    One of the biggest gut punches in the show. Even if you saw it coming, that line, the outstretched arm, the tear... ugggggh

    • @1funkyflyguy
      @1funkyflyguy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      My heart actually broke, when I first watch it. I loved Bill.

    • @scotthadden9816
      @scotthadden9816 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      If it had been ANY other series long companion since the revival, I might have felt something. But honestly, I was elated they finally killed Bill off.

    • @danielemberson5321
      @danielemberson5321 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Da

    • @sail4170
      @sail4170 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This episode is so dark and tragic I’m getting like second hand trauma

  • @gwinnellheald8592
    @gwinnellheald8592 4 ปีที่แล้ว +187

    My favorite line in this episode "Every star in the universe, we were going to see them all. But *he* was too busy burning them. I don't think *she* saw anything"
    Stellar writing. Missy (the empathetic/good (or at least as good as she is capable of)) never saw any beauty in the universe when she was hidden behind the previous regenerations. He was too busy burning them for her to get a glimpse of what the doctor sees

    • @colonelsaunders
      @colonelsaunders 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Such a good line. I miss when Doctor Who was clever :/

    • @gwinnellheald8592
      @gwinnellheald8592 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@colonelsaunders I think this new series isn't too bad ya know? Nothing like previous doctors yet but Im enjoying it more than series 11.

  • @minusxero
    @minusxero 4 ปีที่แล้ว +472

    Eric catching on to the rhythmic cue for the Master is life.

    • @carealoo744
      @carealoo744 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      How in hell did Shane and Calvin JUST SIT THERE?!

  • @zeke8921
    @zeke8921 4 ปีที่แล้ว +263

    “I’ll just say I don’t want tea” clearly you guys don’t understand how Britain works

    • @LaurusHG
      @LaurusHG 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@hellasnowy innit

    • @Jamestopboy
      @Jamestopboy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hellasnowy this is Britain.
      If you don’t want tea it’s blasphemy!

    • @chrislloyd2589
      @chrislloyd2589 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hellasnowy ahaha yesss that shitty video dude I remember

    • @jjc5871
      @jjc5871 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You’re just disgusting.

  • @ryanpollard1166
    @ryanpollard1166 4 ปีที่แล้ว +538

    This two-part finale is not just the best Cybermen story of Modern Who, but one of the best Cybermen stories ever. These two episodes offer the perfect examination into what makes the Cybermen a true threat; 'World Enough and Time' shows us the grotesque body horror, while 'The Doctor Falls' shows us how truly relentless and never-ending they are. Bringing back the original 1966 Mondasian versions was a stroke of genius by Steven Moffat, taking what can be considered a ridiculous old design and making it sting, and that design is probably now my favourite Cyberman design alongside the 80's versions. Also, bringing back John Simm's Master and pairing him with Michelle Gomez's Missy was a great bonus. This was a great start to Capaldi's final adventure.​

    • @SpiderBatFan
      @SpiderBatFan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Ryan Pollard I agree with everything you said here

    • @1funkyflyguy
      @1funkyflyguy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Perfect.

    • @donaldwatson7698
      @donaldwatson7698 4 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      Keep in mind, Mondasian Cybermen were Peter Capaldi's favorite monsters, so the whole two-parter was meant as a treat for him.

    • @EhmAmATANK
      @EhmAmATANK 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Doctor falls is fucking garbage

    • @JohnDoeSteveAustin
      @JohnDoeSteveAustin 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      E ij so giorg uoscinton

  • @Wolf6119
    @Wolf6119 4 ปีที่แล้ว +203

    Funny that Eric misspoke and said "Genesis of the Daleks", since that's a very famous episode of Classic Who, and is what they were not-so-subtly alluding to when the Master said "In fact, I'd call it a Genesis"

    • @carealoo744
      @carealoo744 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yes. :)
      I am shocked that no one gives a crap, except for Eric.
      Hey, if anyone's interested, I'm reviewing all the Doctor Who stories on my channel, with me just having uploaded my review of: 'Invasion Of The Dinosaurs (1974)!' No pressure, of-course; It just might be worth checking out! :)

  • @Triskaan
    @Triskaan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +381

    An here we are... the beginning of the end.
    We're in for three of the best episodes of Doctor Who (imo).
    And what's even better ? Unlike us, they havent been spoiled the big reveal at the end of this one ! :D

    • @Domino2097
      @Domino2097 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Or even the next one too no DVD stands to spoil them like Aaron haha

    • @justsomerandomguyonline1144
      @justsomerandomguyonline1144 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      These are not good episodes

    • @emeraldguardianproductions9319
      @emeraldguardianproductions9319 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Triskan I agree. I love these three episodes as well. I really wish I hadn't been spoiled for the big reveal myself when it came out.

    • @FirstSlateProductionsOfficial
      @FirstSlateProductionsOfficial 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I don't care for the Christmas ep at all, but boy is it gonna be a good reaction. Honestly, I'm incredibly excited for the next 5 reactions!

    • @Pir-o
      @Pir-o 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hunterhorsehelmsley7315 Naaah

  • @firefly24601
    @firefly24601 4 ปีที่แล้ว +189

    The Master is back to having a beard again! ...and no wife.

    • @Wolf6119
      @Wolf6119 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Same thing, innit?

    • @gwinnellheald8592
      @gwinnellheald8592 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Ayy see what u did there

  • @HaaruteLIVE
    @HaaruteLIVE 4 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    Some of the awesome of this episode is definitely lost if you haven't seen Tenth Planet, but a lot of what happens in it is still cool as hell. John Simm, Bill's VISCERAL wound and what follows, the idea of ship that's moving at different speeds in time and whole generations of society being built at the back of it over two days, Missy's test, the Doctor regeneration (even if Lie of the Land ruined the impact of it a little). This finale is definitely one of my favorites, with this part one being one of my favorites ever also.
    I simultanously can't wait and am not ready for the next two episodes.

    • @Mineycart
      @Mineycart 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Oh hey, didn't expect to see you here.

    • @HaaruteLIVE
      @HaaruteLIVE 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Mineycart I'm here every Wednesday!

  • @ronsonroll
    @ronsonroll 4 ปีที่แล้ว +169

    Aww I love Missy's line "here's my companions disposable and comic relief"

    • @SpiderBatFan
      @SpiderBatFan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Milky Whitepee me too, and I love Nardole saying...”Bill....Nardole”. He’s honestly so tired of having her around and wishes she’d go back in the fault 😂

    • @Greencava11
      @Greencava11 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      such a fun line

    • @denmaroca2584
      @denmaroca2584 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      "And these are my disposables, Exposition and Comic Relief."

  • @serenity4eva89
    @serenity4eva89 4 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    CyberPotts crying... and saying "I waited... for you" while reaching out for the Doctor was the moment I realized I'd miss Bill Potts. We didn't get enough time with her, or I didn't appreciate her (enough) while we did have her. I miss Bill Potts

  • @alexjames4507
    @alexjames4507 4 ปีที่แล้ว +182

    I honestly prefer catch-up reactions to these next two episodes. The BBC spoiled the biggest twist of the episode before it came out.

    • @Domino2097
      @Domino2097 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Tbf the papers found out about it and were threatening to reveal so BBC did themselves

    • @justsomerandomguyonline1144
      @justsomerandomguyonline1144 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      domino2097 who can blame them? The ratings were so bad

    • @tadtranclere3729
      @tadtranclere3729 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I didn’t get spoiled when I watched them as they were coming out. I’m so grateful to have watched via iTunes and to live not in Britain so I didn’t get spoiled.

    • @cameroncaws8506
      @cameroncaws8506 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Domino2097 Which was stupid. Most people will avoid leaks easily, but when you shove him in the damn trailers it's practically unavoidable.

    • @PedroGBSilva
      @PedroGBSilva 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's why today I block and mute everything Doctor Who related in my social media

  • @icantthinkofagoodusername4575
    @icantthinkofagoodusername4575 4 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    These Cybermen are great not crap

    • @carealoo744
      @carealoo744 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Spare-Parts! Spare-Parts! Spare-Parts!

  • @Wannabe_Baby
    @Wannabe_Baby 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This has my favourite closing shot of any Doctor Who episode. Bill's tear coming out of the Cyberman's eye socket.

  • @theInsaneDoctor
    @theInsaneDoctor 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    How they can get hype for rise of the skywalker and not this is beyond me. Power of nostalgia I guess

  • @Fanatic_Foremem
    @Fanatic_Foremem 4 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    They were so energetic at the beginning but I feel like they weren't really hyped about the master or the cyberman reveals...the heck did they just finish reacting to?

    • @Cowmoo83
      @Cowmoo83 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Yeah, they didn’t seem to think of this episode any more highly than the recent string of “meh” episodes that constitute this season. At least based on what was said/how into it they seemed. It’s too bad because in my opinion this episode is one of the best modern DW has to offer and the absolute best of series 10. Hopefully this 1st part gets them more excited for what’s to come in part 2... We shall see!

    • @thedoctorgeneric5007
      @thedoctorgeneric5007 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Wasn't expecting them to care that much. I think this reveal is more for people who had to wait *seven years* to see John Simm's Master again.

    • @Fanatic_Foremem
      @Fanatic_Foremem 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@thedoctorgeneric5007 Multiple masters though. I feel like that deserves more of a reaction.

    • @thedoctorgeneric5007
      @thedoctorgeneric5007 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      NekoVira, well BlindWave don't really care about the majority of the shows they watch... it's all for the views.

    • @justsomerandomguyonline2784
      @justsomerandomguyonline2784 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@thedoctorgeneric5007 If they don't like a show they will stop watching, that's their motto. They did this with Gotham. They won't do reactions just for views they hardly get much money of them anyway

  • @tardisollie4545
    @tardisollie4545 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Can't help but feel a little disappointed in their predominantly blank reactions to the two huge twists, maybe its just me but I sort of expected more. And it's a shame they don't recognise the legacy of the original cybermen suits making a resurgence. Here's hoping next weeks episode brings a bit more of a reaction.

    • @justsomerandomguyonline2784
      @justsomerandomguyonline2784 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Would you rather they overreact in the most fake way possible? Either way you will still feel disappointed. Just let them react honestly.

  • @Thomas-kp8mo
    @Thomas-kp8mo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    Disappointed you didnt like the retro cybermen outfits.

    • @MikeHesk742
      @MikeHesk742 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      @@SGK1206 They look plausible. If the reason you're making cybermen originally is to try and preserve life it makes no sense to slice them up and put them inside generic robots. The white gowns and shrowds over real bodies with tech stuck on feels more medical, and that's what the cybermen were originally meant to be.

    • @mattopotamus5885
      @mattopotamus5885 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      captlaserrage well the Cybus cyber-men weren’t built with that purpose. Lumin had a terminal illness that crippled him so he created the cyber men as a new race that would remove the weakness of emotion and illness, unlike the mondasions which did it for survival. So from that perspective it makes more sense to remove as much human elements as possible. I do prefer the idea behind mondasion cyber men since it’s way creeper but just wanted to give my reasoning why the cybus ones are just brains in suits

    • @kemmdog4444
      @kemmdog4444 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      These old Cybermen are far creepier than the New Who version.

  • @Mr_M_
    @Mr_M_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    So the Cybermen exist in 2 forms. The original classic "Mondasian" Cybermen from the Planet Mondas, and also the Alternate Reality "Pete's Earth" Cybermen from the other dimension. The Mondasian Cybermen were the ones that existed all the way through the classic era with various design changes through the classic Doctors. For most of the David Tennant and Matt Smith era it was the Alternate Dimension cybermen that had crossed over to our reality which we saw. By the end of Matt Smith's run, the episode 'Nightmare in Silver', it's explained that the Cybermen of Mondas and the Cybermen of the Alternate Earth found each other and created a hybrid race of Cybermen to explain their most recent design upgrade. World Enough and Time is the first time we've actually seen the original Mondasian Cybermen since the classic era, and the first time using the original design since the First Doctor.

    • @Andreiiver
      @Andreiiver 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      In which category does the cybermen that Missy creates falls?

    • @Carabas72
      @Carabas72 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Andreiiver
      Everything from Matt Smith on is mixed ones or pure Mondasian ones.

    • @Mr_M_
      @Mr_M_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Andreiiver The Hybrid ones

    • @paulwagner688
      @paulwagner688 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A Good Man Goes to War had Cybermen without the Cybus "C" on their chests.

    • @Carabas72
      @Carabas72 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@paulwagner688
      Yeah, but that's not really a signifier. They didn't have the time to change it.

  • @Pablo-hj1rt
    @Pablo-hj1rt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    I’ve been looking forward to this reaction for quite some time once I realised they were closing in on the Series 10 finale, and I can’t help feeling a little...disappointed I guess?
    The guys just didn’t really seem engaged with the episode (Calvin and Shane had literally zero reaction to the Master reveal, and even Eric was just like oh that’s the Master? Cool 🤷‍♂️)
    Idk. Here’s hoping the next 2 reactions they seem a bit more into it, but after seeing this one who knows lmao

    • @recker198
      @recker198 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Have you been keeping up with the reactions? This is nothing new lmao. they're only watching it for shits and giggles now, that's why you don't see them connect with serious moments anymore. They've stopped caring about the show.

    • @Pablo-hj1rt
      @Pablo-hj1rt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Recker yeah I have noticed their gradual declining interest as of late, but I guess I was just hopeful Simm coming back might excite them even a little? Clearly not lol, man Shane and Calvin look like they’d rather be anywhere else.
      If they’re clocking out in Capaldi’s run I really can’t see 13 being the one to hook them back in. They may surprise us though. What are your thoughts on S11 (and S12 so far)?

    • @recker198
      @recker198 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Pablo-hj1rt S11, thought was ok, wasn't the worst thing in the world as I had heard, but it felt too innocent? nothing felt dangerous to me, but I love 13 as much as the other doctors, she clicked with me since that spider episode actually.
      Last episode I watched was Spyfall part 2. Don't know about the other two recent ones (heard the Tesla episode was great?)... But I really like both parts of Spyfall.. Even though I was spoiled on the "oh" reveal and gallifrey kaboom lol.

    • @Pablo-hj1rt
      @Pablo-hj1rt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Recker At the time of airing I really wasn’t feeling S11 as a whole, but it had its individual moments for sure. I thought The Ghost Monument, Demons of the Punjab, It Takes You Away and Resolution were particularly strong and Rosa was by far my favourite of the series. But other than that, the others just fell a little flat for me and by the end I still wasn’t really sure if I liked 13 or not, I was so back and forth with her.
      As for S12, I loved both parts of Spyfall and it’s great to see a darker side of 13 starting to challenge her ‘childlike’ personality she had before that. That’s such a shame you had those moments spoiled for you, I really didn’t see the Master reveal coming it totally took me by surprise, and I really like Sacha’s take on the role. As for the other 2 episodes, I thought Orphan 55 wasn’t the best (you may think differently) but the Tesla one was really fun, and the guy who played him did a great job.
      Looking forward to the next one!

    • @carealoo744
      @carealoo744 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      How in hell did Shane and Calvin JUST SIT THERE?!

  • @joshuadownes9449
    @joshuadownes9449 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Is it just me at did the guy’s seem a little bit fed up today? We’re in capaldi’s final hours and they don’t seem to be caring at all?

    • @joshuadownes9449
      @joshuadownes9449 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      KayKo now there was an episode I just completely blanked out of my mind, but no seriously it’s not a problem at all after all they’ve had a busy week, but I was expecting a little bit more excitement. Y’know?

  • @TheZebbga
    @TheZebbga 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    These are my favourite Cyber-Men easily. Like yeah, the newer ones look cooler but the idea of Cyber-Men is that they are meant to be Cyborgs, wanting to upgrade them selves and they eventually loose all sign of what they once were. I guess the new ones are a natural conclusion but they are more or less Robots at that point. They might as well just make Robots to fight instead of upgrading people with the new ones. For Cyber-Men to be effective you have to have some sign of what they once were and with the bandage like cloth thing over their head and the broken up monotone voice that they have sells it for me. They are creepier than the newer ones because they are not yet so far removed from human but yet removed enough. The Uncanny Valley. The Rustle T.Davis Cyber-Men accomplished this in the stories they told, especially with the one that they knocked out that was talking about how it was her wedding night. We have to be aware their is people in them but when I watch Nightmare in Silver I don't get that impression.

    • @SpiderBatFan
      @SpiderBatFan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      TheZebbga agreed, In a creepy way I love how much more human they look. Especially the hands

    • @TheZebbga
      @TheZebbga 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@SpiderBatFan Yeah. In the original Tenth Planet they costumes never bothered to give them cloves so it was just their bare hands. They have covered them up a little but still kept them creepily Human.

  • @Domino2097
    @Domino2097 4 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Just a FYI for next week: subtitles sometimes say First Doctor or Doctor for his lines at the end so you might wanna check that or turn em off

    • @StupidWeb
      @StupidWeb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      They've already watched it by now

    • @StupidWeb
      @StupidWeb 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @DaZi yup

    • @Domino2097
      @Domino2097 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@StupidWeb having watched it it looks like they watched the episode with the subtitles off so my warning may have helped

    • @StupidWeb
      @StupidWeb 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Domino2097 maybe but none of the gang (bar maybe aaron since he's watched Dr who already) read the comments

    • @Domino2097
      @Domino2097 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@StupidWeb true but pretty sure Lono does and he'd probably warn them too

  • @bananasaregood8655
    @bananasaregood8655 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    these are def not the cybermen you saw in the five doctors (design wise). these are the original, one off design, cybermen from there debut story from 1966 ;)

  • @matthewbradford6489
    @matthewbradford6489 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Not my favourite reaction this week

  • @han5234
    @han5234 4 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Huh. This might be the most lacklustre reaction I've ever seen from these guys, and to one of my favourite episodes too! Maybe they're just done with Who?

    • @matthewbradford6489
      @matthewbradford6489 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree, I want them to stop now cus there clearly not interested anymore

    • @williamantcliff7133
      @williamantcliff7133 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@matthewbradford6489 pls stop with the drama 😂. Their reaction was poor yes but that doesn't make them watching for the last few years (10 series) for nothing. Let's just hope that next weeks is better. If it's not there are plenty of other great reactors who did a better job for these episodes

    • @kwanarchive
      @kwanarchive 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Eric seemed to be pretty into it, actually.

    • @rabidsasquatch
      @rabidsasquatch 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I think its just that they weren't that shocked about the reveals as they'd pretty much worked them out before they saw them.

    • @thysens
      @thysens 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      While I don't think they are necessarily done with the show, I think that they aren't enjoying it nearly as much as they did with the previous seasons, primarily because the previous seasons were just better. Thinking back on it, I never particuarly felt much excitement from this season either. Although, I think that the First Doctor's appearance might get at least something out of the three of them.
      Shane has seemed far less interested in the show since Matt Smith left, with only a few episodes catching any kind of reaction out of him. Calvin seems more critical or disappointed by the episodes than the others, which makes sense due to his ties to Classic Who. And Eric seems to still have decent optimism for the show, but still less than he previously had. All of these are just parts of real reactions to a show that is bent on being everchanging.
      Besides, just wait till their reactions to the next season- it might be hard to see.

  • @theevildalek5425
    @theevildalek5425 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Eric = “It’s one of the shitty old ones”
    Classic Who Fans = “YOU WHAT MATE?”

  • @tonyjohansson7567
    @tonyjohansson7567 4 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    This is a masterpiece! One of the best episodes ever...

    • @matthewbradford6489
      @matthewbradford6489 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      I agree but I feel they didn't like this as much as us

    • @Greencava11
      @Greencava11 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agree one of my favourite Who episodes

    • @carealoo744
      @carealoo744 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      How in hell did Shane and Calvin JUST SIT THERE?!

    • @justsomerandomguyonline1144
      @justsomerandomguyonline1144 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      No this is one of the worst episodes ever

    • @tonyjohansson7567
      @tonyjohansson7567 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@justsomerandomguyonline1144 In what way?

  • @HeatKingMedia
    @HeatKingMedia 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Man, their reaction to the Cyberman and Master Reveal was pathetic. I waited a year/months for this? Its like they're bored of DW now. A part of me actually died inside.

    • @carealoo744
      @carealoo744 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      How in hell did Shane and Calvin JUST SIT THERE?!

    • @lizard3724
      @lizard3724 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      HEAT KING- MEDIA To be fair, the Master reveal is kind of lackluster.

  • @daffy8995
    @daffy8995 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    How did I never notice "You see through my clever disguise!!"

    • @michaeldeboer9940
      @michaeldeboer9940 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      “Are you sure about the mask?”
      “Just in case.”
      Might also be referring to his other mask and why he spent all those years wearing it.

  • @danielmartinsen143
    @danielmartinsen143 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    The Mondasian cybermen are easily my favorite version of the cybermen. Essentially there are two types of cybermen: Medical and mechanical. Whereas I feel a lot of New Who stories miss the main point about Cybermen, despite them always talking about "uprgrades", which is that Cybermen are created to preserve life! The Medical cybermen or the Mondasian cybermen do exactly that! While the suit we see Bill inhabiting doesn't exactly scream practicality, it does preserve life! While the modern Cybermen slice people up and stuff them into slow and bulky suits
    Cybermen might be my favorite villains in Doctor Who and specifically because of the gutpunching "I....waited...for.....you". Cybermen are straight up terrifying, if done right, and when they are done right they are easily scarier than Daleks.

    • @carealoo744
      @carealoo744 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Spare-Parts! Spare-Parts! Spare-Parts!

    • @kwanarchive
      @kwanarchive 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think the main point extends beyond preserving life - it explores what happens to people when they take self preservation too far.

    • @danielmartinsen143
      @danielmartinsen143 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      kwanarchive EXACTLY! I just feel like a lot of New Who (especially Matt smith’s era) takes away what makes cybermen so terrifying and interesting

  • @oldwebshooter
    @oldwebshooter 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I think it's really shitty to shit on the mythology by calling the classic ones 'shitty'. They may have not been able to make more of the costumes, but they accounted for it in the mythology that they were supposed to be only a third machine. Which is a failing of the new era that they're basically robots with human brains.

  • @samfrisby6135
    @samfrisby6135 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    BTW when Missy was knocking on the vault door, she knocked 3 times a few times, and then the last time she knocked she did an extra fourth knock. Easy to miss but definitely a hint.

  • @MargflowerProduction
    @MargflowerProduction 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Personally, I think the Mondasian Cybermen are the best because you can still see their humanity. This is what makes them truly terrifying. I highly recommend Hartnell's last story "The Tenth Planet" to see them like that.

  • @detectivebaghead5567
    @detectivebaghead5567 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    really disappointed with the master reveal reaction tbh

  • @Tumbleflop
    @Tumbleflop ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "Someone's... former _prime minister"_
    *"Harriet Jones, former Prime Minister."*

  • @bigwhoop6018
    @bigwhoop6018 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Shane is sitting there waiting for someone to end his sufferings, dude you can drop out if you don't like it, no one would care.

    • @bigwhoop6018
      @bigwhoop6018 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Also, is pretty clear none of them really care that that much about Doctor Who (except Aaron and maybe Eric). I mean the show doesn't get any better than this, imagine them reacting to series 11. Horryfing thought.

    • @DrippyIska
      @DrippyIska 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      what the hell are u on about. It might not be their favorite show but they like it? Some episode they LOVE. they have cried over this show several times

    • @carealoo744
      @carealoo744 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@DrippyIska When was the last time?

    • @ftumschk
      @ftumschk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@carealoo744 Series 9 with Clara. I think you feel more emotionally attached to the show if you've got the hots for a companion - it's not essential, but it helps :)

    • @carealoo744
      @carealoo744 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ftumschk I was about to ask which epsiode, since I stopped watching these guys after The Crimson Horror.
      But now you just mentioned feeling sexually attracted to the companion: 'Helps,' so I'm going to have to ask you to friek off.

  • @Kuralai95
    @Kuralai95 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    It bothered me to no end how Doctor already knew of time distortion but spent all that time explaining what’s it is while being aware it might be years and years passing by for Billy. I mean he usually does things without telling anybody around what’s going on but now he chooses to give a lecture? Otherwise it’s one of the best episodes out there

    • @Pablo-hj1rt
      @Pablo-hj1rt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Ailin Ell yeah that’s always bothered me too lol. Like, Missy almost certainly understands it (in fact I remember seeing a deleted scene where she does the explaining) and Nardole is pretty intelligent so I’d wager he gets it too. 12 flips over that blue guy 2 minutes later anyway and heads straight for the lift, so who was he explaining it for?
      Obviously the answer is the audience lol, but Moffat couldn’t have written a better way for it to be explained without it seeming like an illogical thing for 12 to do? Lmao

  • @coleinone5959
    @coleinone5959 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    One of my favorite episodes of DW 😊

  • @crystalfire5564
    @crystalfire5564 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve been waiting so long for this reaction! I love this and the next set of episodes.

  • @Hawk_of_Battle
    @Hawk_of_Battle 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Yeah this one was... surprisingly lackluster. Thought there'd be more of a reaction The Master reveal.

  • @ms_scribbles
    @ms_scribbles 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Heh, yeah, that's definitely a fault of Moffat's writing. I appreciate the wish to surprise, but when you throw the same thing out repeatedly as a surprise, like death/regeneration, the audience stops believing it, and the emotional impact is gone.

    • @dutchman8887
      @dutchman8887 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      rtd did the same. lots of teasing of a companion dying
      rose and donna being the main ones - seriously rose dies or is supposed to die even more than clara but it never gets brought up and then it never actually happening. even worse from rtd as at least moffat did it for story purposes whilst rtd just did it to create fake drama.

  • @gryotharian
    @gryotharian 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    These last 3 episodes are my absolute favorite of the show, it’s clearly noticeable that everyone involved is completely giving it their all, Murray Gold, Steven Moffat and all of the actors at their best. Facing the old school cybermen was a dream of Peter Capaldi’s so it’s great they did this for his finale

  • @KaelKnight
    @KaelKnight ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The reason Missy isn't obsessed with the 4 beats is it was driving him to release rasalon which he did so rasalon wasn't sending the 4 beat signal to drive him any more

  • @prof.evilpictures8696
    @prof.evilpictures8696 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    HOLY FUCK!!!! I’ve waited 2 years for this reaction! LETS GO!!

  • @JJ-eb1zp
    @JJ-eb1zp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This was a pretty bland reaction guys. Hope next one is better

    • @lizard3724
      @lizard3724 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      J J They don't need to fake a reaction for you. That was their honest reaction to a pretty boring episode.

    • @williamantcliff7133
      @williamantcliff7133 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@lizard3724 don't think J J was asking them to 'fake' a reaction. At the end of the day it is kinda their job to do this, they should be good at it and there is a level of expectancy, especially their patreons. And if they can get excited/talk for ages about episodes such as 'The Empress of Mars' and 'The Eaters of Light' just weeks before surely it ain't a big deal to expect a little more than actual blank faces when the Master (who has been absent for 6 seasons), that's all he's saying 🤷‍♂️

    • @JJ-eb1zp
      @JJ-eb1zp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@williamantcliff7133 exactly my thoughts!!

  • @firefly24601
    @firefly24601 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Razor reminded me A LOT of Zathras from Babylon 5.
    RIP Tim Choate.

    • @alphamone
      @alphamone 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Glad I wasn't the only one.
      And all the Zathras vibes he gave off distracted me from realising who he was (I was aware that the Saxon Master was returning) until right near the end where he started talking with Missy.

    • @firefly24601
      @firefly24601 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alphamone
      Cannot run out of time. There is infinite time.
      YOU... are finite.
      ZATHRAS... is finite.
      [picking up tool]
      THIS... is wrong tool.

    • @Tulkas219
      @Tulkas219 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same here. The vocal style and mannerisms were very similar and some visual likenesses too. Wonder if John Simms used him as inspiration for the character?

  • @MrEvers
    @MrEvers 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    it's been 3.5 years, and we still don't have this amazing soundtrack

    • @MrEvers
      @MrEvers 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      4 years now

  • @samfrisby6135
    @samfrisby6135 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Damn the next episode is one of Capalidi’s best!

  • @connorclarke853
    @connorclarke853 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    13:50 good job playing dumb aaron

  • @spiderfingers86
    @spiderfingers86 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The penultimate episode of the season. Introduction of Razor. He's got a surprise of his own

  • @Jon_FM
    @Jon_FM 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    BBC spoiled Sims return which they have done way too much at times over the years of Doctor Who. But I loved the next couple of episodes.

  • @iandxx
    @iandxx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    this is such a remarkable episode - the contrasts are extraordinary: some of the funniest scenes in all of dr who nestled next to some of the darkest. the darker material is particularly daring and edgy - if i was still a youngster, those hospital ward scenes would have sent me behind the sofa (like the daleks used to!). metal hats raised to sir steven of moffat!!

    • @namwonglue
      @namwonglue 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      And to Rachel Talalay! No wonder why Moffat kept her for his best eps in his last years. She really knew how to turn cheesy scripts to art.

  • @rainbowquartz9513
    @rainbowquartz9513 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    First Clara got turned into a Dalek,
    Then Bill got turned into a cyber man.
    What a strange and horrific way to get killed?

    • @donaldwatson7698
      @donaldwatson7698 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Don't forget Rory got turned into an Auton, at least until the universe reset.

  • @jessetorres8738
    @jessetorres8738 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Part of me has wondered if it was because The Master became Missy and she and Capaldi's Doctor became so close again that this inspired The Doctor to become female when they regenerated.

  • @seezorx
    @seezorx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Eric mentioning Hugo Strange makes me wanna see you guys react to Gotham, it's no the best show but it has some great moments

  • @alistairrae9807
    @alistairrae9807 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Mondas was earths twin planet which became unable to support life so they turned themselves into the Cybermen these Mondasian Cybermen were the Original That first appeared in the First Doctor Final story The Tenth Planet when Peter Capldi was announced as leaving he asked if they could bring the Mondasian Cybermen back for his final few episodes this was big because this was the first time since there first appearance back 1966 outside of Audiobooks

  • @galonski64
    @galonski64 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm so excited

  • @estetelefono2063
    @estetelefono2063 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is THE MASTER!!! Not that guy in series 12, series 12 is not canon for me

    • @thepandorica1660
      @thepandorica1660 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Why's that? I hope it's not for the reason I think it is.

    • @estetelefono2063
      @estetelefono2063 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@thepandorica1660 because Michelle Gomez and John Simm set the bar too high and that guy performance is so cringe so i blame Chibs for hiring him, for the terrible writing and for ruining the show, series 12 is unwatchable and not worthy, also the performance of the rest of the cast doesn't help at all, because of all this is that for me the Jodie era is not canon🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

    • @thepandorica1660
      @thepandorica1660 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@estetelefono2063 well, I don't personally agree with what you said, but your answer was much more fair than I thought it was going to be.

    • @dramamole
      @dramamole 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree. The new Master totally undoes all of the character development he/she had a Missy. Not to mention the timeless child bull crap. I choose to not count it as canon as well

    • @mrknowhere6457
      @mrknowhere6457 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thepandorica1660 I dont like season 12 for many reasons. Jammed in political stuff, characters just pointlessly thrown away, some (in my opinion) terrible writing, the whole Gallifreys gone plot, which completely undoes five seasons of trying to get it back, characters like Yaz and Ryan doing little, and of course, the timeless child. In my opinion, it ruins the doctor as a whole. The doctors supposed to be just a ordinary person in their race, who just happened to be the last. Plus I have never liked Jodies doctor. Two seasons in, and I still feel like the writers dont know what character shes supposed to be. Captain Jack and Graham are the only good things. However, just my opinion.

  • @dwilborn1257
    @dwilborn1257 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We're here, oh my

  • @DJ-LD
    @DJ-LD 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Just about two more episodes before no one cares anymore about the show.

    • @Sara-ub5ic
      @Sara-ub5ic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      why two more episodes the guys didn't seem to care about this episode

    • @DJ-LD
      @DJ-LD 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Because that's when Steven Moffat and Peter Capaldi leave.

    • @bluepolarbear
      @bluepolarbear 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Eh, speak for yourself, I still very much like the show to this day.

    • @thepandorica1660
      @thepandorica1660 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wait, I'm called no one? Thanks for informing me. I wonder how many more people are called no one...

  • @jacks648
    @jacks648 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Damn we're here already? Buckle up boys

  • @inspectorwhoreacts
    @inspectorwhoreacts 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Oh man this is it! This episode man blew me away! Heartbreaking, mind blowing, and just all around well made.

  • @pixwool
    @pixwool 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m so exited for the reaction of the newest episode, even though it will take while.

  • @doctorwhumour1105
    @doctorwhumour1105 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    THE DRUMS, THE NEVER ENDING DRUMS

  • @aj-dr9853
    @aj-dr9853 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Blind Wave, you need to watch Classic Who!!!

  • @thedreamerswork
    @thedreamerswork 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh man I can't believe we're at this point already.

  • @Mineycart
    @Mineycart 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The first time I watched this episode was on the tiniest tv in the kitchen because my dad wouldn't give up the TV in the front room but that did not make this episode any less impactful. These 3 episodes are some of my favourite Capaldi stories.
    Also it's a shame that they weren't a few weeks further ahead as that would have been a massive coincidence.

  • @Ragnarok345
    @Ragnarok345 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’m watching this again after FailWhale’s reaction to it went up, and I gotta say, I don’t think I’ll ever again be able to look at Bill with that gaping hole in her stomach without hearing “SHE’S A DONUT!” ringing in my ears. 🤣

  • @LiamCatterson
    @LiamCatterson 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My favourite Cybermen story ever. Even knowing they'd be a part of this (because Moffat and the newspaper named The Sun, I personally blame the Sun more because they never have a good word about them and I'm petulant to them), it was still surprising to see how terrifying they were and they actually converted a companion into a Cybermen, which is what I wanted but seeing it happened made me regret my life choices xD
    Also, whilst it does not contradict this, there is also another Genesis of the Cybermen story done by Big Finish (canon to Doctor Who) called Spare Parts and like this episode, it's one of the best Doctor Who stories done. They both showcase their own level of terror.

  • @spiderfingers86
    @spiderfingers86 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Steven Moffat's son is an astrophysicist and assisted with the science of this episode

  • @hiccuphufflepuff176
    @hiccuphufflepuff176 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "This guy belongs in the Night's Watch." Belongs, no. But he would definitely get sent there if he lived in Westeros. (After the execution didn't work, of course.)

  • @aliyahreacts7404
    @aliyahreacts7404 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Melron’s reaction was so much better

  • @CB-kc4it
    @CB-kc4it 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    One of my favourite episodes of Doctor Who. I wish so much that the reveal hadn't been spoiled for me!!

  • @MikeHesk742
    @MikeHesk742 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    These are how cybermen are meant to look. They were never meant to be robots they were originally basically cybernetic zombies, walking corpses with no emotions. The whole point was finding a way to survive, not slice yourselves up into white flakes and inhabit a tank, and so the more medical/shroud look of these cybermen fit.

  • @catxborsuq1
    @catxborsuq1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "They can't kill companions!"
    Katerina from Troy sends her regards (Classic Who, 1965, "Dalek's Mastermind" story, she jumped out into space with man who took her hostage and was trying to get the Doctor to do something)

  • @wardjunior1450
    @wardjunior1450 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Only 2 more good episodes left

    • @thepandorica1660
      @thepandorica1660 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      From Capaldi's era, yes there is. There's more good after that though.

    • @wardjunior1450
      @wardjunior1450 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Pandorica ‘does it need saying’

    • @thepandorica1660
      @thepandorica1660 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wardjunior1450 interesting way to respond to my reply

    • @wardjunior1450
      @wardjunior1450 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Pandorica but do you get the reference

    • @thepandorica1660
      @thepandorica1660 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wardjunior1450 yes, but not how it relates to my comment. Did you just wrote that at random or were you actually trying to tell me something and used that quote as a way of doing that?

  • @mrcarryon
    @mrcarryon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Weird to think that in just under 6 months they’ll be caught up and finnaly done with this show

    • @jamiethemagictorch
      @jamiethemagictorch 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      more like 2 weeks

    • @Hussain-tv6rs
      @Hussain-tv6rs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@jamiethemagictorch lol shane will give up halfway through next season xD

    • @carealoo744
      @carealoo744 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I honestly can't imagine Lano somehow making 10 hours worth of reaction worthy material, for Any epsiode of Series 11, bar the premier.

    • @bluepolarbear
      @bluepolarbear 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jamiethemagictorch Aaron has already reacted to Series 11 and 12, and judging from his feelings on it I feel like the rest of the crew will also see reasons to continue reacting.

  • @einosig
    @einosig 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "Shit one" Eric??

  • @jacobhogan3208
    @jacobhogan3208 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Anyone remember the trailer where they had a wideshot of her dabbing?

    • @carealoo744
      @carealoo744 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Holy crap, I think my mind completely blocked that out, until you mentioned it!

  • @TheMess9898
    @TheMess9898 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Arrrgh...drop this weeks vid!!! CAN'T WAIT!!!

  • @promythical2023
    @promythical2023 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Wait, why wasn’t this on your main page? I’m so confused!

    • @zartig09
      @zartig09 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Patreons get sent the link early I believe. We just found that link in a different videos comments.

    • @promythical2023
      @promythical2023 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Zartig09 oh, ok, that makes sense, thanks!

  • @TheAcworthdude
    @TheAcworthdude 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The master looks like Zathras from Babylon 5

    • @Judgement316
      @Judgement316 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      First thing that came to mind when Calvin said he reminded him of someone 😁

  • @ebanksstudios
    @ebanksstudios 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The trailer for series 10 spoiled the twist in this ep

  • @Luckynumberrabbit
    @Luckynumberrabbit 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Pleasure, Pleasure, PLEASURE!!!"

  • @Fozzimodo
    @Fozzimodo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Also, it's episodes like this that make me wish Eric Shane and Calvin had all caught up with Aaron and Melanie. I can't wait to see all 5 of them reacting together.

  • @Mscape7
    @Mscape7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    One of the best eps ever

  • @procrastinosaurus-rex5720
    @procrastinosaurus-rex5720 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My favourite DW finale. This is such a great story.

  • @xRiizo
    @xRiizo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    AHHH Here we go! Now to get emotionally prepared for this gut-punch. :'( Between this two parter and the xmas send off. Makes me cry every time!

  • @catxborsuq1
    @catxborsuq1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mondas, Telos, Alternative Earth, this ship. Cybermen originated from many different planets at different times. Basically, any civilization that evolved technologically to the point they can make cybernetic limbs/implants/organs and takes it too far can become a new "origin point" for new Cybermen.

  • @evildeathcuddles886
    @evildeathcuddles886 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Missy: Who are you?
    Razor: Harold Saxon, former Prime Minister
    Missy: Yes, I know who you are.

  • @Mr_M_
    @Mr_M_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i've been waiting for this!!!

  • @markc4008
    @markc4008 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    RE Missy and the four knocks, she did knock four times while she was in the vault. It was three times several times, and then the final time she knocked she did knock four times. It was rather difficult to tell though, since it coincided with the ending noise.

  • @geekdetritus5503
    @geekdetritus5503 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Masters disguise reminds me of Zathrus from Babylon 5

  • @paindepices4939
    @paindepices4939 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My favourite DW story 💚
    I wasn't spoiled by the trailers like many people were at the time; so realising little by little they were making Cybermen (and Mondasian ones, no less!) was freaking a-ma-zing!

  • @DasKame
    @DasKame 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great Episode, a little Slow but man, 2 of a Kind

  • @selkie76
    @selkie76 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would point out that the car had been invented back then - 'tis an archaic word for "chariot" that we've repurposed in the modern era ^_~

  • @DrWatson4
    @DrWatson4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One of the most horrific episodes

  • @UnclePalpy
    @UnclePalpy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’ve been waiting for this for 3 years!

    • @matthewbradford6489
      @matthewbradford6489 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Same, can't help be disappointed with there reaction