the amount of pausing i did with the instagram stories.... 😣 oof... was also pausing this video whenever you paused the stories because my mind needed a minute to process the amount of hypocrisy it was being presented... 😂 26:18 to 26:34 is exactly the wrap-up this topic deserved, needed that little laugh
@@woodanemone9758 I do get that. I mean there are a lot of people that only hate on Gabbie cuz it’s what’s trending. However, Gabbie doesn’t exactly make it easy for a lot of people to like her.
@@crispy_grass958 I personally think Rachel was rather ranting. However, if Hanna gets Rachel's account removed for that, I think Rachel should be able to get Hanna's removed because of her direct offending. It's just an opinion. Rachel even encouraged her followers to not start a hate storm because of this.
@@woodanemone9758 oh, I thought ur first comment was you defending Gabbie Idk I’m very dumb lol. I have seen some of Rachel’s videos on Gabbie’s books and none of them seemed like unnecessary hate. It was just normal criticism.
@@crispy_grass958 Oh Yes, I am pro Rachel. I am even an ex-Gabbie Hanna fan. Not to worry, it's easy to misunderstand another online. I think Rachel did a decent job, she read the whole thing and gave her point of view. I find it very unfair that Gabbie gets to point Rachel out that way without facing consequences, whilst Rachel gets a whole platform taken away. At least there's still Kyra The Staffy.
the worst part about gabbie attacking rachel oates is that Rachel gives a lot of fair criticism because she studied it for years. Rachel didnt BULLY gabbie at all, she didnt attack her, she simply analyzed gabbie's bad poetry and told her how she could improve
@@camerondelangel1229 it was literally a parody. She wasn’t mocking what Gabbie was writing about or her trauma but making a parody of her STYLE of poetry. Even if she was mocking wouldn’t it have been better content to make a video critiquing Rachel’s book instead of calling her a bitch multiple times?
@@camerondelangel1229 gabbie was making it sound much worse and much more malicious than it actually was. rachel basically made a parody of gabbie's book, which wasnt mocking her or attacking her in anyway. the worst thing I could say about Rachel's parody of gabbie's book was that it show the simplicity and lack of meaning in gabbie's poetry. most of the criticism towards was adultolesence were toward the dumb meaningless poems and the parts of the books that were most likely tweet drafts. I would highly reccomend watching Rachel's videos about gabbie because she is in no way cruel or malicious
The truth is Gabbie Hanna thinks she’s is so talented that her dwindling career is unfair. She thinks that she is entitled to fame and followers. She won’t let go of the issue of her first poetry book because she thinks that it’s well written and deserve praise, but it doesn’t. Shes so mad at her audience for not receiving her work well.....
Gabbie has admitted that she at one point did believe that the world owed her something, and I still believe that she still has that mentality, she’ll never be able to expand her career if she continues down this path
What’s wild is I remember watching Rachel critique Gabbie’s book and thinking it was not only very fair but much nice than I would have been. I have my bachelor’s in English Literature and can attest Rachel was objectively looking at the work and not the person, but Gabbie’s work is garbage and she can’t accept that.
God the throwing around of "narcissistic" and "abusers" and other mental health buzzwords at other people.... Apparently therapy has only given her more phrases to abuse. 🙄
@@Raya-ir4tm Narcissistic personality disorder is literally a mental illness. Gabbie is throwing around phrases that don't apply to anything, but go off. Also, who's giving out brownie points? Send them my way.
@@Raya-ir4tm Also the way Gabbie went on and on about "narcissistic abusers" felt very "I learned this phrase in therapy" but maybe I'm projecting. Regardless, Gabbie's a dick. 🤷🏻♀️
@@Raya-ir4tm no gabbie has no idea what narcissist abuse looks like she learned a new buzz word and she has weaponized it in every way possible .... to dilute that term is a disservice to anyone who has actually faced narcissistic abuse or abuse in general it’s gross
also extra funny given that Gabbie sent Rachel her book Dandelion for FREE but only in the hopes for getting a positive review and when the video came out and it was still critiquing her for not improving at all, Gabbie threw a temper tantrum (like she always does apparently)
everytime gabbie used the term “bitch” to refer to rachel or angelika i flinched. For women, that energy is so harmful and toxic and to use it against one another is sickening to see.
Right? You would think Gabbie would reflect and not act like this since she went through this herself..... it’s sad to see her attempting to tear down other women
@@Raya-ir4tm uh, no. There are a lot of women who feels the need to degrade other women and it's still a problem. How is it obnoxious for a person to call out a reoccurring toxic behavior?
Rachel is a sweet, smart girl who only provides fair criticism to all sorts of literature. She's done Shane's books, too. And yeah, she's a dog-lover...watch her vids and you can see how much she adores Kira. In my opinion, Rachel is above reproach as far as TH-camrs go.
the fact that Gabbie blames RACHEL (who has been the absolute nicest compared to others and gave actual constructive advice on how to be better because she actually knows wtf she's talking about) about the hate from others is INSANE to me
To be clear, this isn't defending Gabbie but rather the very basic aspects of this situation. I don't really know much about Gabbie Hanna (somewhat new to prowling around TH-cam) but she seems to possibly have some of her own hangups...but everyone does and it's only now being put on blast cuz of the internet. At any rate, I hope you can understand what I'm trying to convey in this reply.... Constructive criticism is one thing but Rachel Oates made a book that mocks a survivor's book...a book about the horrible things she went through! This is bullying, victim shaming in a way, and counterproductive to getting other victims to speak out. It doesn't only hurt Gabbie and furthers the stigma that victims already feel as they work towards becoming a true survivor. Art, which poetry falls under, is viewed differently by everyone...and everyone is entitled to his/her own opinion. However, Rachel is doing far more than voicing an opinion and is trying to mock another's book that was likely meant to be cathartic. This girl is hypocritical to say she hopes she gets better....or whatever phrase she used...cuz she's going out of her way to bully her both online (social media) and offline (in a published book). The number of people that see the book or post is irrelevant in the eyes of the victim but that can/will exacerbate the harm as the number grows. Let's just try to be better and treat others better. The ones that are lashing out at others are often in need of it even more because they aren't getting the love and help they need to feel whole, strong, and confident.
@@camerondelangel1229 it is weird. But all her videos about Gabbie were very professionally constructive. And I wouldn’t go as far as gabbie is doing to drag her. Nothing Rachel said is deserving of her getting dragged for.
Oof Rachel made really good videos actually critically analysing her poetry the way we do in English literature classes. She's an actual poetry lover who knows what she's talking about. She was not cruel. She gave real critique. Gabbie seems not to have watched them.
I feel like if you actually know what's good and what's bad because this is something you've studied it's harder to release stuff. My friend studies at the Royal academy of music and he already makes some insane music, but hasn't released anything yet. Some youtubers clearly think, that they can't do anything at a bad level just bc they succeeded on TH-cam. You don't just get to wake up one day and decide, that you're a talented musician and poet and get angry if people don't believe all your delusions
It's grinding my gears hearing Gabbie throw around the words narcissistic abuse especially since I've been through that. And surprise surprise Gabbie's doing exactly what they would if you point out a problem or give them criticism, they go on a tyrade about how you're a "terrible person" for something they can't fix. When it's like "I just said this dish could use more salt??"
And provided examples of better poetry and how to improve! It’s almost exactly what you would get in a creative writing: poetry class at a university. She made good points and did a really good job at staying on topic about Gabbie’s work without talking about Gabbie as a person. Yes, Rachel was sometimes a little harsh perhaps, but she never attacked Gabbie personally or said something she could not back up.
@@tormlen yess she says in her videos that she means no harm to the writers she’s just analysing the book I feel like gabbie didn’t watch the video it’s not like she’s obsessed with her she’s just making more because we asked her to do more
@@buttermotth Right?! I don’t know. Sometimes I get the impression that Gabbie is so primed to defend herself from even the tiniest things because of her mental health issues that she sees attacks where there are none. Then her “defending herself” and being aggressive to other creators actually does create drama, and she spirals into these episodes. I just can’t imagine putting poetry out into the world and being this defensive.
@@tormlen right? Like what do you want? She bought it she can give her opinion on it. Also just because you talk about like mental health issues in your poetry it doesn’t mean it’s good (I’m not saying her book is bad but I found it kinda boring) she makes it so big for no reason there’s other things that are more important to talk about. Sorry for ranting have a nice day 😅
narcissism, abuse/abuser, manipulation, gaslighting, etc. are not buzzwords to just throw around. Gabbi has had one (1) therapy session and thinks she got a phd in psychology.
@@jai2884 it’s not that abuse victims can’t (and hasn’t) turned into an abuser, but Rachel is not one of them. Gabbie has to learn how to take criticism of her works as just that, instead of as criticism of her lived experience. Gabbie is just a bully, and although she’s also a victim of abuse, it doesn’t excuse the way she lashed out and are cruel to others. Rachel is so sweet, I do not understand where Gabbie is coming from at all.
People can make parodies. She’s not making fun of the trauma she’s been through, she’s making fun of how easy it is to make better poetry. She legitimately knows her stuff and says how she can improve and even gives examples of poems that have handled Gabbie’s subject matter way more in depth and beautifully.
Gabbie wants to act like Rachel has been bullying her and she's been silent. But Rachel made her videos critiquing Adultescence and the one with Kyra the dog "writing" her version and THEN Gabbie sent her the second book because she WANTED it to be reviewed. And I believe that's the last time Rachel has spoken on Gabbie or her work. Rachel also only focused on the work she was reviewing and didn't talk about Gabbie's personality. And there is a lot to say about Gabbie's personality because she is a horrible person.
Exactly. I don't know why Gabbi hannah is now suddenly getting upset about it now. Its been ages since the last video, especially from what I saw on her channel. It's ridiculous
@@maddy6764 she was attacking Rachel yesterday, I guess the stories aren’t there anymore. She was calling her all sorts of names and it got quite nasty.
@@maddy6764 I don't know where the Instagram posts went but there were loads targeted at Rachel and then pointed at Angelika. Maybe I was seeing things, or maybe I just didn't get there in time. But I saw loads pointed at Rachel and there were some mentioned on another drama channel I watched which had it all pointed towards Rachel
This isn’t ‘defending herself’, this is lashing out, deflecting and being a victim. If you release any kind of art you are going to be subjected to positive and negative criticism. If the criticism is as deep as ‘my dog could write better than you’, that is still an opinion. Your job as an artist is to reflect on it and improve you art that people are PAYING for. If you can’t handle it then leave the industry. 🤷🏽♀️
Everything gabby does I feel this way. Like completely lacks awareness of the amount of talented people in the world. Having a platform doesn’t equal talented. But she’d argue against that for days.
she released her work to the public, if she didn’t want criticism she should’ve kept it private. just because the poetry is about sensitive topics doesn’t mean it’s good. also hope ur well today bestie
@@maddy6764 no, anybody can be criticized, I'm not saying they can't; im saying being a PUBLIC FIGURE is bound to bring Naturally MORE criticism because you have random people online watching you, and they don't know you behind the cameras, so they're gonna criticize you without really "knowing you", that's what I'm sayin
@@maddy6764 so if she wants to be a public figure, she needs to expect the WHOLE PACKAGE; She can't really cherry pick what she wants out of the package 😨
she said neurotypical like she can use it in that way. She literally made fun of people who use tone indicators like a month ago and now she wants to act like just one of us (us as in neurodivergent people)
The way Rachel does her videos is reading the poem and then comparing it to a poem that she likes. She analyzes what each one does and talks about the successes and failures of each poem. She doesn't hate on Gabbie's poems, she provides literary critique under the format of comparison to more refined poetry. She read Trisha's poetry too. It's not a hate campaign, it's a girl who loves poetry who is reading poetry she likes and giving advice to emerging poets. She's more like an English teacher than a hater.
i think it’s extremely low and hypocritical for gabbie to drag rachel when she threw a fit about getting lower views and that she was being “suppressed” by the people and youtube. idk to me i really can’t stand her giving criticism when she can’t even take it in the first place and only has one argument about how rachel is barley known... like girl if you didn’t talk about your story times and collab with others then you would barley be known too
I just think it’s funny how she literally had nothing to say about the David dobrik situation when he was actively bullying her on a personal level but chooses to attack rachel for objectively critiquing her book that she ASKED for her to critique....but anyway 🙄
bc rachel has a smaller audience, gabbie knows this bc she called her ms. 4k views. it's alot easier for her to villainize smaller creators and send her fans to bully thrm
I personally watched all of Rachel’s videos on Gabbie’s poetry, and she gave valid, and fair criticism. From what I can recall, Rachel didn’t mock or ridicule Gabbie’s personally struggle, she simply critiqued the book. The way Gabbie is going off is very concerning to me, because literally came out of nowhere. The fact she thought it was okay to go off on someone this, smh.
She didn't, all she said was - "oh it seems like pure laziness to never actually develop her poetry." Which is true, she never did develop the poetry to make it meaningful or deep. It's so annoying lmao that Gabbi is getting getting upset over it when Gabbi can apparently, "take criticism" like urgh.
Alys Baah-danso yeah, and it’s crazy to me, because gabbie actually gave Rachel her other book, and had asked Rachel to critique it. And then she comes out with claiming that Rachel is an abuser, like dude, you ASKED her to critique your book. It’s like, bonkers to me lol
@@nastysoup1211 omg exactly!!! On the bio bit of the video it said that Gabbi went crying their mutual friend after asking Rachel to review it. In turn the mutual friend started texting Rachel before she posted the video to stop like Gabbi didn't send her the second book.
@@kate6849 Like especially knowing that Gabbie sent Rachel her second book I think it was? And now she's just hashing all of this out, calling Rachel an abuser when Rachel is a survivor??? I cannot deal. CANNOT!
@@artsychu. When I saw that she was going in on Rachel, that was my first thought....why tf send her the book? Super confusing and hypocritical imo. Now Rachel has to deal with this nuttter on top of all of the other recent shit she’s had to deal with, but hopefully she’ll come out of it alright and more people will know about the great stuff she posts on her channel.
One of the things that rubbed me the wrong way about Gabbie's tweets was the "neurotypicals hate my poetry because they don't understand" narrative. I'm neurodivergent and I still don't think Gabbie's poetry is revolutionary. It's average at best. And not only is that my opinion as a person- which I deserve to have- it's my opinion as a woman with ADHD, like Gabbie claims to be. Stop dragging neurodivergency into the argument just for some relevancy (relency, Gabbie? 😂), sis-
Same! She throws her mental health around as well like that's what people are criticising- not her poetry or her actions. Like, stop deflecting. I don't understand this woman.
@@artsychu. It’s so- It’s weirdly gatekeeping and trying to needlessly validate her BS by suddenly being like, “The neurotypical people are attacking me because they don’t UNDERSTAND-“ Maybe some people, neurodivergent OR neurotypical, just don’t think your poetry is good or just simply don’t enjoy it?????
@@TheBrookelynChick Right! She's delusional...it honestly alarms me sometimes. Someone so "anti-bullying" going on a tirade about Rachel and attacking her character, channel views, calling her abusive - hm. I???
@@artsychu. Weaponizing her mental health in this capacity is so harmful and toxic enough- but this is the first that I’ve ever heard of her being neurodivergent. (I can’t remember a single instance of hearing about her having ADHD.) Not only do some people seeing her tweets probably not know the meaning of being neurodivergent vs neurotypical, if they do learn, she’s putting neurodivergency in such a negative light. People with ADHD and autism don’t need this malicious view casted upon them, Gabbie-
I agree! As a neuro divergent women, I didn’t find her poetry particular captivating. People don’t have to like your music or poetry. Doesn’t mean they don’t understand lol. It comes off elitist to me.
If only Rachel would take THAT amount of time, effort and work she took to criticise my poetry... Gods, I would feel so blessed to get that quality of criticism to grow as an artist. Gabbie could have gotten SO MUCH from all the great advice Rachel gave her...
As a creative writer, who writes both poems and fiction, I feel the exact same way. I love getting my work critiqued. I've been sincerely missing the college workshops.
Ok not today bestie , Rachel is literally the sweetest person on this plat form she didn’t take the mick she criticised it constructively she’s a literal literature critic honestly go and watch two seconds of her videos and you’ll see how nice she is
I've watched rachels videos and they aren't even mean. She never picks on anything but gabis poetry. gabis poetry is bad and lazy, but Rachel even compliments some of them that are good. gabi expects everyone to love everything like girl.... you aren't a poet. if you put your art out there you have to expect bad reviews. I'm a writer myself and yeah its disheartening sometimes for people to find flaws but I personally listen to it if its true and try to make it better
Gabbie's name isn't bringing as much views as it used to because I think a lot of people started realizing she loves the traffic it brings to her channel and she can use it to promote new projects and most people get tired of her saying no one can take criticism meanwhile not keeping that same energy when everyone can have their own opinions on art. Art is supposed to be different for everyone, rachel is allowed to not like gabbies poems and gabbie doesn't have to pay attention and shouldn't go after a small account that a lot of people don't know about.
I have been seriously disturbed by gabbies actions before but that was really hard to watch. That energy is not healthy for anyone including herself. That aggression towards another woman? Calling her a bit*h repeatedly.
@@Raya-ir4tm I agree, as you can see I didn’t claim she secretly hates women. I do think as a self proclaimed advocate of women succeeding and respecting mental health...there is a disconnect. That’s all, I think that for many we still view bit*h as a word used against women specifically. Especially with her tone it is clearly meant as an aggressive slur. I fully think Gabbie is allowed to free speech, to defend herself. But I personally think that the way she spoke is not healthy.
The books are oddly long for poetry..critics only focused on 30% cringey, filler one liners (i agree) but there are some great poems in there that deal with it..keep in mind that her core audience are teen kids that grow up on SM and can digest this topics(especialy if they relate/live in the abuse) in a way us older millenials can not
It’s stupid because last year when people were criticizing the “seriousness” of her poetry (the lack of seriousness) gabbie literally said that her poetry isn’t meant to be taken seriously and it’s supposed to be humorous.
You absolutely spoke for me personally in your disgusted silences. This woman is basically inciting a mob. She is loathsome to the extreme. And I'm a published artist, so apparently I'm permitted to criticise her writing. Her writing is an insult to humanity; it practically mocks itself. Edit: Like, I'm genuinely grateful that you've spoken for me on this, Adam. Gabbie has truly enraged me now.
Rachel wanted to like her second book and literally was sent it by gabbie and was like oh I think it’s rlly great that she took the critism and I hope this is good then gave tips for writing poetry
She’s using as many buzz words as she can to come across as well articulated, gain sympathy, and destroy the other persons character. When in reality she is coming across as immature and annoying.
it’s not even that rachel was making fun of it, she was genuinely critiquing it from the standpoint of an actual poet and someone who understand literature 😭😭
I genuinely think these are manic episodes. I've had them before and saying stuff like "I'm not having a breakdown I'm finally healthy" is a textbook manic thing to say. You feel better than you ever have before which makes it hard to understand that something is wrong. I tweeted A LOT during that time too
Ohhhhh no no no.... I love Rachel. She’s lovely. She’s a literature and poetry enthusiast and she does this with all TH-camr books. She did them with Trisha and Lele Pons too. Rachel has also gone through a lot of ish. Like. A lot. Gabbie is so so in the wrong. Seriously. Omg. Wtf.
I cant deal with the aggression in Gabbie's response? Is that just me being sensitive but... her using so many hard words against Rachel just feels so aggressive and harsh and makes me flinch.
But if we read between the lines, we’d see the thought and heart behind her poems. I think “Link: in bio” is a poem actually about the bourgeoisie and class conflict. Only us intellectuals get it...
@@squidstortellini7131 ok are you serious? If art speaks for itself then why does she have to spoon feed us the meanings behind her poorly written work? I’m pretty sure art is subjective.... however, her work is objectively weak
@@ellieknobel2374 haha no I’m not being serious, it’s just so funny how she thinks soooo highly of her “”poems”” that she says none of us were smart enough to understand the ~artistry~ of these pieces of word vomit
@@ellieknobel2374 art is subjective. that being said regardless of what her message was...if it was poorly executed and her readers didn't interpret it the way she intended as a writer it simply just means she needs to improve on her delivery. Being an artist doesn't mean everyone has to like your work but since Gabbie thinks everyone should. I think her best decision would be to actually improve her work, maybe take some creative writing classes.
I've been a fan of Rachel for a while now (I think her videos on Gabbie's poetry is how I found her). I feel like Rachel's treatment of Gabbie was never from a place of malice. Anyone who watches her videos knows that Rachel is a lover of poetry, which is why she's so passionate about critiquing objectively terrible and lazy poetry. If Gabbie's willing to charge such an exorbitant amount of money for her 'poetry' book, she should also be willing to have it critiqued. Also, she sent her second poetry book to Rachel, which speaks for itself. A lot of people on the internet need to learn how to distinguish criticism from hate. There are plenty of other TH-camrs who have poked fun at Gabbie's poetry, but you don't see her starting beef with James Marriott (who I'm a big fan of) out of no where. Even if Rachel did make a load of videos on it, it's her right to. However, most of Rachel's videos were providing constructive criticism and looking at poems she thought were better than Gabbie's. It's not as though she bullied Gabbie, but Gabbie seems to interpret criticism as bullying. I thought I should also note that Gabbie's comment about neurotypical creators was kinda ignorant. I'm pretty sure Rachel is autistic (considering she posted something about autism on her story just after Gabbie made that Tweet). Even if I'm wrong (and correct me if I am), it's ignorant to assume that everyone who did make videos about her poetry was neurotypical, not creative etc.. This is all so infuriating, and it's even worse now because Rachel's Instagram was disabled because of Gabbie's stans. Edit: I've changed my mind about Doggolescence (as in I'm no longer iffy about it). I realised that it wasn't a mockery of just Gabbie Hanna but a satire of Instagram 'poetry' and how easy it is to write Instagram poetry (as in even her dog can write it). There's a video of her dog picking out the words, for context on the Doggolescence thing.
I feel like so much of this happened in to past too. If Gabbie felt like the first review was abusive, why send her the second book??? And Doggolescence was published last year, so this all feels so targeted. I also think it's silly to say that Rachel isn't creative, since she also partially wrote Doggolescence.
@@mikaylafindlay1997 Exactly! When Gabbie sent Rachel her book, she said something about wanting it in the hands of someone who loves poetry, so she must've, at some point, thought Rachel was 'intellectual' enough to appreciate her art (a term I'll use very loosely for some of them 'poems'). Everyone has the right to defend themselves, no matter how long ago the thing was, but it genuinely seems like Gabbie's just in the middle of a breakdown. Even so, that doesn't excuse her calling her critics abusers and allowing her stans to attack Rachel, when I don't think (m)any of Rachel's fans attacked Gabbie. It's genuinely infuriating that Gabbie can't see her own hypocrisy or figure out that she's always the common denominator in the criticism she receives and the drama she puts herself in. I guess you could try to justify it with her being ND, but, in my opinion, that doesn't excuse harassing and bullying a smaller creator, accusing them of being a bully when you're calling them 'ugly', a 'bitch' and 'abuser'. It's honestly disgusting. Oof sorry for that rant lmao
@@mx-piggy I think it also feels really targeted since Gabbie is directing all of this at RO, even though Rachel was probably one of the nicest reviews I've seen out there. Gabbie goes on and on about girls sticking up for girls, but then ignores all the men who criticized her even when they were worse. Also, we need diverse reviewers and critics as much as we need a range of artists. If Gabbie wants to join the world of writing, or music, or whatever outside of youtube than she needs to let go of her echo chamber of stans and learn to deal with negative reviews and constructive criticism. I feel for any anxiety or hurt GH is feeling, I've been through some exceptionally harsh criticism myself, but I feel like it's really common to make art out of trauma. It doesn't make her special in this case, and it definitely doesn't exempt her from criticism. Maybe she shouldn't engage with reviews, or have someone else watch them and try help her glean the useful information. However, I think it's really hypocritical for GH to try to use mental health as a crutch and excuse, to then turn around and be ableist. She can't claim to know that all her negative reviews come only from neurotypical people, not in directing towards RO, and not in a generalized call out.
@@mikaylafindlay1997 Couldn't have said it better! I don't think Gabbie should be calling out people for reviewing, critiquing and/or poking fun at her work when she's published it to the public and monetised it. However, there were male creators who were far less constructive with the stuff they said and just made some jokes (James Marriott and Drew Gooden for example) and yet she said nothing about them. Instead, she targeted someone who wanted her to improve. I have a hard time believing she fully watched Rachel's videos, especially after a TikTok she made about Rachel's Bo Burnham video, where she said Rachel didn't like Bo Burnham (20 seconds in she said literally said she was a fan of Bo). I know it doesn't sound like that big a deal, but it proves she didn't watch that video, and, from what she's saying about all of the other videos, it's hard to believe she watched many, if any, in their entirety. She's not obligated to watch them, but, if she's going to rage about them online to her rabid fanbase, she can't not watch them/lie about the content within the video.
Rachel is such a sweet, smart and thoughtful person... thanks for standing up for her even if you don't know her. I hope Gabbie's psycho stans don't run her off the net :/ they've already reported her Instagram account so many times it has been temporarily taken down.
Literally saw this video in my recommended and thought “eh I don’t care about gabbie” and kept scrolling, then saw it again and thought, “ok I’ll watch it for Adam’s sake” so when you said your videos about her under perform I felt that
I highly recommend watching Rachel’s videos. She’s highly educated in literature, well-spoken, and fairly non-biased when critiquing youtubers work. She has never once bullied Gabbie and if you watch any of her critiques on Gabbie, or even Shane, she doesn’t disrespect them as people, but instead critiques their writing style and offers advice to improve said works
I hate the way Gabbie trivializes abuse and mental illnesses by saying she's being abused by narcissistic personalities, even though neither of these are subjects to be taken lightly, especially because narcissism is a diagnosable disorder and abuse is serious and traumatic. It's not traumatic to be told you write bad poetry by someone who studies and writes poetry. I just don't get how she calls herself an activist and then decides to attack and belittle people using continually stereotyped and diluted issues
It can’t be only me that questioned why she targeted Rachel?? I mean I really don’t think it’s bc she was the first one to make a video on her book. I think it’s bc she saw Rachel as an extremely easy target. Sounds like internalized misogyny to me.
@@Raya-ir4tm Rachel has critiqued Bo, Shane Dawson, etc. Gabbie has specifically targeted Rachel, and now Angelina. Also it’s just not this situation, it’s observing Gabbies past behavior. But your entitled to you opinion.
Gabbie has a complex. For a long time she was successful but insecure. And she insulted herself so other people would give her sympathy and validate her talent. But then her career began to decline and people weren’t as interested in her music and didn’t receive her poetry the way she wanted. Now she is doing a 180 by lashing out and guilting people because they aren’t validating her talent anymore. It’s easier to ignore trolls or the average reader because she can rationalize it by telling herself they’re just haters or don’t know what they’re talking about and insist she’s the smartest person in the room. It’s harder to ignore someone who actually understands poetry and can give detailed, substantiated critique that goes beyond “I don’t like it.”
james marriot made videos on her too, and even got more views on most of them. I can name so much more, like ready to glare and alizee. i dont know why she chose rachel, but it feels so outta pocket
Rachel Oates just posted that she lost her IG account after being targeted by people flagging her. I have watched many of Rachel's videos and the "meanest" she gets is disappointed mom.
This whole thing was basically “bullying is wrong so let me bully them to show that bullying is wrong” (even though I don’t think Rachel bullied her and provided valid criticism in her videos)
Rachel also just got out of an abusive relationship, and her subs saw her messy aftermath, so Gabbie continuesly calling her a narsissistic abuser is even more disgusting. I don’t know if she knows about it, but I can still imagine Rachel felt daggers in her heart when she heard that come out of Gabbie’s mouth.
Rachel is a lovely creator. Why she said she was so disappointed was because gabbie sent her the books, begging for attention and love, then Rachel was just honest. She is just as passionate about art and poetry, if not, more than gabbie who i sure bet never read any poetry aside from school assignments from years ago and milk and honey lmaoo
I just started the video and wanted to chime in to say, If you can’t sit still, no one should give you a hard time about it. It’s just a body movement that helps you connect with your environment. You do you! ❤️
Rachel criticized Gabbie's *BOOK* Not Gabbie as a person. Gabbie sent Rachel her second book. And now Gabbie is complaining about an Honest review. Is also just funny how Gabby is not defending her book. She is not going after what Rachel said about the books and providing explanation or u know objectively defending her work. She is literally harassing Rachel. Disgusting behavior.
*surprised pikachu* also how does she know that the people who don't enjoy her poetry are non-creative and neurotypical ? I'm definitely neurodivergent and an illustrator and I think her poetry is rubbish. Her drawings aren't great but they aren't bad either but her writing is plain and boring.
I finished the video and I cannot believe my ears. Gabbie has used the "abuse victim and mentally ill" card enough. She's trash and unable to handle criticism and I'm shocked at the violence of her speech against Rachel. She's really a shitty human being who doesn't even try to have a good look at herself before she spits hate towards other. Also you can write a book about your abuse and it still be a bad book. Get over it. And if you think some of yor poems are bad, why did you include them in the book ?
I think it's funny Gabbie calls herself an "artist", yet those who went to art school learn one of the most important lessons early as you start your career: detaching yourself from your art, and mining for constructive criticism. Anyone can be an artist, but those who accept the criticism are the one's who actually grow to be amazing ones; those who don't, stay mediocre. She sounds like she's only pissed because she sees this as a personal attack onto herself, instead of the artwork is produced. While you can have your own personal influences on your work stated, it's the medium in which you do so (i.e. for her, it's poetry), which is still open for criticism.
Rachel Oats videos analysing and criticising of Gabbie hannah's poetry are so generous and fair to her. Gabbie literally could've chosen anyone else who made videos talking about her books for her rant but choose Rachel who has a degree in English or Creative writing.
Fan of Rachel here, I have her book and have read it multiple times, it’s a playful parody of Gabbie’s book, nothing attacking Gabbie, just taking the kind of poems like “link in bio” that we all joke about and writing it from a dog’s perspective. Plus there’s additional heartfelt poems about her own experience caring for a rescue dog who was previously abused, and shedding light on the trauma and abuse that rescue dogs struggle through in their lives. Clearly Gabbie has never read it because her depiction of the book is so out of left field that saying “Jeffree Star is a nice person” is a more accurate statement than her claims.
i really like rachel. to be honest, sometimes she can be a little condescending, and if i was in gabbie's place i probably wouldn't like it either. HOWEVER, rachel rarely gives unsubstantiated criticism, and she usually offers a way to make whatever she's reviewing better; gabbie's books are no exception. she really takes the time to read the poems and analyze them, she doesn't just laugh and move on. i understand gabbie feels hurt by a lot of things, some of them unrelated to her poetry, but there's a difference between standing up for yourself when people are being unfair and going after everyone who has ever disagreed with you. adam, i highly suggest you go through rachel's videos and see for yourself that she's not just shitting on gabbie's poetry for no reason.
I think it's also important to put Rachel's criticism in the context of the professional reviews. Speaking as someone who has been on both ends of it, her videos are honestly extremely kind and obviously meant to be helpful, and I wish more people modeled their critiques in a similar way. I've had reviews that rip into my work, but even though it hurts you have to deal with it and improve. Not everyone will like what you do, complement you, or provide good advice on how to improve, but that's how it goes.
I bought the Dandelion book by Gabbie cause I wanted to read something new. Out of all the poetry, I like 22 out of the 148 poems. I enjoyed the short stories because it gave a sense of vulnerability and authenticity where a lot of the poems in the book felt very half assed. Like I feel that she has potential to write well, but I feel like she doesn’t put in 100% throughout the entire book. Edit: Also, as a fellow illustrator and poet (kinda), I also value my art, but I’m open to criticism; good or bad. Granted some of the criticism will be ruthless and may hurt my feelings, however I just take the things I can use and move forward in creating. You don’t have to bully people who have constructive criticism about your art.
It's so weird because Rachel doesn't even really make fun of Gabbie? She gives actual constructive criticism on how to step up her writing. That should be helpful. She never attacks Gabbie Hanna herself.
Wtf does she think booktobers do or commentary channels about movies and series and music do? all of those people buy something and then talk about it bc, as you said, when you buy something or put something out on the world people are allowed to think about it in a way you may not like but that's part of wanting to be an artist. If she really dislike it, then she shouldn't be putting stuff out for people to buy it.
Also, I'm sorry, there's a difference between standing for yourself and having a mental breakdown and you CAN stand for yourself without having a mental breakdown but every time she "stand" for herself she's having a mental breakdown. There is no need to scream or rant every time she tries to defend herself just like right now, there isn't a need to drag someone down and called someone a "narcissist bitch" because you're "standing for yourself".
Yes!!! I’m a recovering alcoholic and if I made a huge deal out of every time I walked into a grocery store, gas station or bar and got “triggered” i would be triggered constantly! The world doesn’t just change and stop around people’s triggers. Only the person in recovery is responsible for their response to triggers! She’s getting DRAGGED on Instagram right now.
@@hollywood2499 As she should be, she attacked a small business using her platform of >100M because she felt triggered by a sugar free cookie it’s laughable ?? 😭
this isn't even the first time gabbie has responded to this she responded to this when rachel first posted her critic??? so what is she even talking about
The fact that Gabbie went after the nicest reviewer out there.... Rachel literally was super respectful and even provided a lot of really good constructive criticism (which is not necessary when you're doing a book review!) and Gabbie called her an ABUSER!!! For making a book review!!! This woman literally throws around random words until they mean absolutely nothing.
Also-fan of Rachel’s here, hi-the only time Rachel has so much as mentioned Gabbie in months was a passing reference in a random video and it was so small most people who watched didn’t even catch it so yeah, Gabbie just has something new coming out to promote and attacking people is the only way she knows how to get attention at this point, and Rachel just so happens to be the target because she accidentally started the trend of making videos about Gabbie’s book
Gabbie Hanna learns words like “gaslighting” “manipulation” “abuse” “crazy” “ sociopathic” etc and literally RUNS them into the ground. she’s constantly repeating herself and what she’s saying, using ‘big words’ to try to make herself seem smarter but ultimately it makes her sound annoying. if she can’t use her words correct , she shouldn’t be using them at all. not to mention the fact that those words mean serious things and she’s using them as a way to make this girl who is making commentary on HER public book seem ‘unhinged.’ very weird.
She talks about Rachel like she's made hundreds of videos berating and insulting her, and Rachel's only made like 7 videos out of 300 giving genuine constructive criticism of her poetry, the last one being 6 months ago, and MIND YOU she only made that last video bc GABBIE sent Rachel her second book for free bc she thought it deserved to be in hands of someone who understood the art or whatever
Couldn't Rachel's book be considered as a parody? Something that needs no permission to be made and is completely fair use. Gabbie has taken things too far once again
And the fact she still itreally attacking Angelika after she had her rant with that girl, like no she needs real help cause clearly the only way to release what she feeling is by attacking people online
Rachel is an absolute icon who has been more than fair in her reviews of Gabbie's poetry, she's actually been constructive with her criticism and has so much knowledge about poetry so this is really on Gabbie for not being able to take any heat about her clearly problematic creative direction
I love when I’m watching one of your videos and the BOOM I get an upload notification lol. You are an underrated TH-camr in my opinion, you constantly push out content several times a day and to me, I LOVE that so much
I’ve never heard somebody claim “narcissistic abuse” from _sooooo many_ people. The irony of her playing the victim while constantly misusing these terms like “narcissistic abuse” - “hate campaigns” - “dehumanizing” or “misogynistic” is unbelievable.
girl please
second channel: th-cam.com/channels/dXQJwggR3vQb__zu42eJvw.html
Bestie do you just look good in all the colours?
the amount of pausing i did with the instagram stories.... 😣 oof... was also pausing this video whenever you paused the stories because my mind needed a minute to process the amount of hypocrisy it was being presented... 😂
26:18 to 26:34 is exactly the wrap-up this topic deserved, needed that little laugh
Bestie the movement was the most entertaining part from this new place. You do you but that’s THE thing that made the last couple of vids fun.
So Shane’s channels are all monetized was he ever demonetized like James Charles
It’s embarrassing she started bashing Bebe rexha??like Girl she doesn’t know you exist
Gabbie Hanna:”she cannot accept any type of criticism”
Also Gabbie Hanna: writes tweet after tweet on why people shouldn’t hate her poems
If tables were around, Rachel could probably get Hanna's account unabled because of this... but social media has it's own hierarchy system.
@@woodanemone9758 I do get that. I mean there are a lot of people that only hate on Gabbie cuz it’s what’s trending. However, Gabbie doesn’t exactly make it easy for a lot of people to like her.
@@crispy_grass958 I personally think Rachel was rather ranting. However, if Hanna gets Rachel's account removed for that, I think Rachel should be able to get Hanna's removed because of her direct offending. It's just an opinion. Rachel even encouraged her followers to not start a hate storm because of this.
@@woodanemone9758 oh, I thought ur first comment was you defending Gabbie Idk I’m very dumb lol. I have seen some of Rachel’s videos on Gabbie’s books and none of them seemed like unnecessary hate. It was just normal criticism.
@@crispy_grass958 Oh Yes, I am pro Rachel. I am even an ex-Gabbie Hanna fan. Not to worry, it's easy to misunderstand another online. I think Rachel did a decent job, she read the whole thing and gave her point of view. I find it very unfair that Gabbie gets to point Rachel out that way without facing consequences, whilst Rachel gets a whole platform taken away. At least there's still Kyra The Staffy.
the worst part about gabbie attacking rachel oates is that Rachel gives a lot of fair criticism because she studied it for years. Rachel didnt BULLY gabbie at all, she didnt attack her, she simply analyzed gabbie's bad poetry and told her how she could improve
not just that, but gabbie literally SENT her book to rachel so she could review it lmao
so making a book mocking her was fair criticism
@@camerondelangel1229 it was literally a parody. She wasn’t mocking what Gabbie was writing about or her trauma but making a parody of her STYLE of poetry. Even if she was mocking wouldn’t it have been better content to make a video critiquing Rachel’s book instead of calling her a bitch multiple times?
@@camerondelangel1229 gabbie was making it sound much worse and much more malicious than it actually was. rachel basically made a parody of gabbie's book, which wasnt mocking her or attacking her in anyway. the worst thing I could say about Rachel's parody of gabbie's book was that it show the simplicity and lack of meaning in gabbie's poetry. most of the criticism towards was adultolesence were toward the dumb meaningless poems and the parts of the books that were most likely tweet drafts. I would highly reccomend watching Rachel's videos about gabbie because she is in no way cruel or malicious
@@camerondelangel1229 which poems specifically mocked her?
The truth is Gabbie Hanna thinks she’s is so talented that her dwindling career is unfair. She thinks that she is entitled to fame and followers. She won’t let go of the issue of her first poetry book because she thinks that it’s well written and deserve praise, but it doesn’t. Shes so mad at her audience for not receiving her work well.....
Gabbie has admitted that she at one point did believe that the world owed her something, and I still believe that she still has that mentality, she’ll never be able to expand her career if she continues down this path
AMEN.
Exactly omg
What’s wild is I remember watching Rachel critique Gabbie’s book and thinking it was not only very fair but much nice than I would have been. I have my bachelor’s in English Literature and can attest Rachel was objectively looking at the work and not the person, but Gabbie’s work is garbage and she can’t accept that.
It's an extremely generous set of reviews. Clearly the generosity was misplaced and could have been reserved for other creators. Gabbie is vile.
God the throwing around of "narcissistic" and "abusers" and other mental health buzzwords at other people.... Apparently therapy has only given her more phrases to abuse. 🙄
@@Raya-ir4tm Narcissistic personality disorder is literally a mental illness. Gabbie is throwing around phrases that don't apply to anything, but go off. Also, who's giving out brownie points? Send them my way.
@@Raya-ir4tm Also the way Gabbie went on and on about "narcissistic abusers" felt very "I learned this phrase in therapy" but maybe I'm projecting. Regardless, Gabbie's a dick. 🤷🏻♀️
@@Raya-ir4tm no gabbie has no idea what narcissist abuse looks like she learned a new buzz word and she has weaponized it in every way possible .... to dilute that term is a disservice to anyone who has actually faced narcissistic abuse or abuse in general it’s gross
@@megancrutsinger1407 Thank you, this is exactly what I meant.
@Erika Canfield 100%
also extra funny given that Gabbie sent Rachel her book Dandelion for FREE but only in the hopes for getting a positive review and when the video came out and it was still critiquing her for not improving at all, Gabbie threw a temper tantrum (like she always does apparently)
She legit thought she could buy someone with a free book. A. Single. Book.
everytime gabbie used the term “bitch” to refer to rachel or angelika i flinched. For women, that energy is so harmful and toxic and to use it against one another is sickening to see.
Right? You would think Gabbie would reflect and not act like this since she went through this herself..... it’s sad to see her attempting to tear down other women
same. i feel so awful hearing her call them that.
@@Raya-ir4tm uh, no. There are a lot of women who feels the need to degrade other women and it's still a problem. How is it obnoxious for a person to call out a reoccurring toxic behavior?
@@Raya-ir4tm
internalized misogyny is a woman’s issue tho
@@fischy947 this is a disgusting take.
Rachel is a sweet, smart girl who only provides fair criticism to all sorts of literature. She's done Shane's books, too. And yeah, she's a dog-lover...watch her vids and you can see how much she adores Kira. In my opinion, Rachel is above reproach as far as TH-camrs go.
Exactly
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the fact that Gabbie blames RACHEL (who has been the absolute nicest compared to others and gave actual constructive advice on how to be better because she actually knows wtf she's talking about) about the hate from others is INSANE to me
right? rachels above the standards of what its meant to be a youtuber, I love her so much and to see this unfound hatred for her hurts me
Rachel literally read the whole book and gave fair criticism Gabbie is just getting mad because she’s shown she can’t take criticism
To be clear, this isn't defending Gabbie but rather the very basic aspects of this situation. I don't really know much about Gabbie Hanna (somewhat new to prowling around TH-cam) but she seems to possibly have some of her own hangups...but everyone does and it's only now being put on blast cuz of the internet. At any rate, I hope you can understand what I'm trying to convey in this reply....
Constructive criticism is one thing but Rachel Oates made a book that mocks a survivor's book...a book about the horrible things she went through! This is bullying, victim shaming in a way, and counterproductive to getting other victims to speak out. It doesn't only hurt Gabbie and furthers the stigma that victims already feel as they work towards becoming a true survivor. Art, which poetry falls under, is viewed differently by everyone...and everyone is entitled to his/her own opinion. However, Rachel is doing far more than voicing an opinion and is trying to mock another's book that was likely meant to be cathartic. This girl is hypocritical to say she hopes she gets better....or whatever phrase she used...cuz she's going out of her way to bully her both online (social media) and offline (in a published book). The number of people that see the book or post is irrelevant in the eyes of the victim but that can/will exacerbate the harm as the number grows. Let's just try to be better and treat others better. The ones that are lashing out at others are often in need of it even more because they aren't getting the love and help they need to feel whole, strong, and confident.
she wrote a book .. mocking gabbie’s book .. you don’t find that weird?
@@camerondelangel1229 yeah you have a point I think that crossed a line tbh
@@camerondelangel1229 it is weird. But all her videos about Gabbie were very professionally constructive. And I wouldn’t go as far as gabbie is doing to drag her. Nothing Rachel said is deserving of her getting dragged for.
@@Faethehippie15_ Right? Gabbi straight up uses her fans as a sword & shield..
gabbie: omg she only gets 4k views
also gabbie: *tried to convince us she was shadow banned because no one cared about her music video*
Oof Rachel made really good videos actually critically analysing her poetry the way we do in English literature classes. She's an actual poetry lover who knows what she's talking about. She was not cruel. She gave real critique. Gabbie seems not to have watched them.
Gabbie has no academic training past high school, so her skills sorta stay there imo
I feel like if you actually know what's good and what's bad because this is something you've studied it's harder to release stuff. My friend studies at the Royal academy of music and he already makes some insane music, but hasn't released anything yet. Some youtubers clearly think, that they can't do anything at a bad level just bc they succeeded on TH-cam. You don't just get to wake up one day and decide, that you're a talented musician and poet and get angry if people don't believe all your delusions
@@oliverxhmll because it’s merch, ie no one who isn’t a fan would buy it. No merit, just bare minimum stuff for YA readers (her demographic).
@@hollyk7052 it's not merch in her head. She wants to be seen as something she is not (talented as f)
@@hollyk7052 that's the entire reason she gets so mad
It's grinding my gears hearing Gabbie throw around the words narcissistic abuse especially since I've been through that. And surprise surprise Gabbie's doing exactly what they would if you point out a problem or give them criticism, they go on a tyrade about how you're a "terrible person" for something they can't fix. When it's like "I just said this dish could use more salt??"
I've watched rachel oates' videos, she literally didn't even say anything that bad about Gabbie, just that she wished she did more.
Ikr she literally gave constructive criticism and analysed her poetry
And provided examples of better poetry and how to improve! It’s almost exactly what you would get in a creative writing: poetry class at a university. She made good points and did a really good job at staying on topic about Gabbie’s work without talking about Gabbie as a person. Yes, Rachel was sometimes a little harsh perhaps, but she never attacked Gabbie personally or said something she could not back up.
@@tormlen yess she says in her videos that she means no harm to the writers she’s just analysing the book I feel like gabbie didn’t watch the video it’s not like she’s obsessed with her she’s just making more because we asked her to do more
@@buttermotth Right?! I don’t know. Sometimes I get the impression that Gabbie is so primed to defend herself from even the tiniest things because of her mental health issues that she sees attacks where there are none. Then her “defending herself” and being aggressive to other creators actually does create drama, and she spirals into these episodes. I just can’t imagine putting poetry out into the world and being this defensive.
@@tormlen right? Like what do you want? She bought it she can give her opinion on it. Also just because you talk about like mental health issues in your poetry it doesn’t mean it’s good (I’m not saying her book is bad but I found it kinda boring) she makes it so big for no reason there’s other things that are more important to talk about. Sorry for ranting have a nice day 😅
narcissism, abuse/abuser, manipulation, gaslighting, etc. are not buzzwords to just throw around. Gabbi has had one (1) therapy session and thinks she got a phd in psychology.
A great poet and now an expert in psychology. To quote Rachel, she is the Dunning Kruger effect in motion.
Lit👏🏽ra👏🏽lly👏🏽
and rachel is an abuse victim which is public knowledge so gabbie is calling a victim an abuser...
In the same way she read one poetry book and thinks she's poet of the century now. This is a pattern fr
@@jai2884 it’s not that abuse victims can’t (and hasn’t) turned into an abuser, but Rachel is not one of them. Gabbie has to learn how to take criticism of her works as just that, instead of as criticism of her lived experience. Gabbie is just a bully, and although she’s also a victim of abuse, it doesn’t excuse the way she lashed out and are cruel to others. Rachel is so sweet, I do not understand where Gabbie is coming from at all.
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Please publish this bestie. It’s incredible. Breath taking. Become a published author like miss Gabbie 😩
People can make parodies. She’s not making fun of the trauma she’s been through, she’s making fun of how easy it is to make better poetry. She legitimately knows her stuff and says how she can improve and even gives examples of poems that have handled Gabbie’s subject matter way more in depth and beautifully.
Gabbie wants to act like Rachel has been bullying her and she's been silent. But Rachel made her videos critiquing Adultescence and the one with Kyra the dog "writing" her version and THEN Gabbie sent her the second book because she WANTED it to be reviewed. And I believe that's the last time Rachel has spoken on Gabbie or her work. Rachel also only focused on the work she was reviewing and didn't talk about Gabbie's personality. And there is a lot to say about Gabbie's personality because she is a horrible person.
Exactly. I don't know why Gabbi hannah is now suddenly getting upset about it now. Its been ages since the last video, especially from what I saw on her channel. It's ridiculous
She has way more of a prob with Angelica according to her Instagram, I haven’t seen her mention Rachel much
@@maddy6764 she was attacking Rachel yesterday, I guess the stories aren’t there anymore. She was calling her all sorts of names and it got quite nasty.
@@maddy6764 I don't know where the Instagram posts went but there were loads targeted at Rachel and then pointed at Angelika. Maybe I was seeing things, or maybe I just didn't get there in time. But I saw loads pointed at Rachel and there were some mentioned on another drama channel I watched which had it all pointed towards Rachel
This isn’t ‘defending herself’, this is lashing out, deflecting and being a victim. If you release any kind of art you are going to be subjected to positive and negative criticism. If the criticism is as deep as ‘my dog could write better than you’, that is still an opinion. Your job as an artist is to reflect on it and improve you art that people are PAYING for. If you can’t handle it then leave the industry. 🤷🏽♀️
there definitely were people just meaninglessly shitting on her poetry, but rachel wasn’t one of them??? at all???
“Gaslight Gatekeep Girl boss Gabbie Hanna” I literally screamed at work and got some stares 😂
no because the amount of second hand embarrassment I got from the situation was astronomical 😭
Everything gabby does I feel this way. Like completely lacks awareness of the amount of talented people in the world. Having a platform doesn’t equal talented. But she’d argue against that for days.
she released her work to the public, if she didn’t want criticism she should’ve kept it private. just because the poetry is about sensitive topics doesn’t mean it’s good. also hope ur well today bestie
She has stated many times she’s fine with criticism of her work but doesn’t like when people critique her personality without knowing her
@@maddy6764 THEN WHHY IS SHE A TH-camR- 😨
@@jdjdjd7264 you think people are you tubers in order to have their personalities criticized?
@@maddy6764 no, anybody can be criticized, I'm not saying they can't; im saying being a PUBLIC FIGURE is bound to bring Naturally MORE criticism because you have random people online watching you, and they don't know you behind the cameras, so they're gonna criticize you without really "knowing you", that's what I'm sayin
@@maddy6764 so if she wants to be a public figure, she needs to expect the WHOLE PACKAGE; She can't really cherry pick what she wants out of the package 😨
Rachel actually gave some good advice on rhythm and improving her poetry.....guess she didn't watch any of them
Yeah? As who? A writer herself? As a literature professor? B Felicia
STEVEN PFP
@@dkowalczyk5363 as a person with a degree in literature.......so
I like Rachel but she has petty energy when talking about Gabi
begone Gabbie Hannah fans in this comment section
she said neurotypical like she can use it in that way. She literally made fun of people who use tone indicators like a month ago and now she wants to act like just one of us (us as in neurodivergent people)
She did? WTF?!
The way Rachel does her videos is reading the poem and then comparing it to a poem that she likes. She analyzes what each one does and talks about the successes and failures of each poem. She doesn't hate on Gabbie's poems, she provides literary critique under the format of comparison to more refined poetry. She read Trisha's poetry too. It's not a hate campaign, it's a girl who loves poetry who is reading poetry she likes and giving advice to emerging poets. She's more like an English teacher than a hater.
i think it’s extremely low and hypocritical for gabbie to drag rachel when she threw a fit about getting lower views and that she was being “suppressed” by the people and youtube. idk to me i really can’t stand her giving criticism when she can’t even take it in the first place and only has one argument about how rachel is barley known... like girl if you didn’t talk about your story times and collab with others then you would barley be known too
She called Rachel miss 4K views but honey you can barely get any views either and lost close to a million subscribers 😭
@@mariapalacios8293 I hope a few of her rational audience members realise how toxic she is and stop blatantly supporting her behaviour.
I just think it’s funny how she literally had nothing to say about the David dobrik situation when he was actively bullying her on a personal level but chooses to attack rachel for objectively critiquing her book that she ASKED for her to critique....but anyway 🙄
bc rachel has a smaller audience, gabbie knows this bc she called her ms. 4k views. it's alot easier for her to villainize smaller creators and send her fans to bully thrm
I personally watched all of Rachel’s videos on Gabbie’s poetry, and she gave valid, and fair criticism. From what I can recall, Rachel didn’t mock or ridicule Gabbie’s personally struggle, she simply critiqued the book. The way Gabbie is going off is very concerning to me, because literally came out of nowhere. The fact she thought it was okay to go off on someone this, smh.
She didn't, all she said was - "oh it seems like pure laziness to never actually develop her poetry." Which is true, she never did develop the poetry to make it meaningful or deep. It's so annoying lmao that Gabbi is getting getting upset over it when Gabbi can apparently, "take criticism" like urgh.
Alys Baah-danso yeah, and it’s crazy to me, because gabbie actually gave Rachel her other book, and had asked Rachel to critique it. And then she comes out with claiming that Rachel is an abuser, like dude, you ASKED her to critique your book. It’s like, bonkers to me lol
@@nastysoup1211 omg exactly!!! On the bio bit of the video it said that Gabbi went crying their mutual friend after asking Rachel to review it. In turn the mutual friend started texting Rachel before she posted the video to stop like Gabbi didn't send her the second book.
I clicked SO fast. I cannot deal with Gabbie. I've followed Rachel for years and am so glad you're aware of this.
SAME I’ve liked watching Rachel’s videos for ages and she absolutely doesn’t deserve the gaslighting and aggressive attacks from Gabbie and her fans
@@kate6849 Like especially knowing that Gabbie sent Rachel her second book I think it was? And now she's just hashing all of this out, calling Rachel an abuser when Rachel is a survivor??? I cannot deal. CANNOT!
@@artsychu. When I saw that she was going in on Rachel, that was my first thought....why tf send her the book? Super confusing and hypocritical imo. Now Rachel has to deal with this nuttter on top of all of the other recent shit she’s had to deal with, but hopefully she’ll come out of it alright and more people will know about the great stuff she posts on her channel.
@@Jenidala23 At the very least, yes, I hope it ends in Rachel with more following and Gabbie retreating back to her hole.
One of the things that rubbed me the wrong way about Gabbie's tweets was the "neurotypicals hate my poetry because they don't understand" narrative.
I'm neurodivergent and I still don't think Gabbie's poetry is revolutionary. It's average at best. And not only is that my opinion as a person- which I deserve to have- it's my opinion as a woman with ADHD, like Gabbie claims to be.
Stop dragging neurodivergency into the argument just for some relevancy (relency, Gabbie? 😂), sis-
Same! She throws her mental health around as well like that's what people are criticising- not her poetry or her actions. Like, stop deflecting. I don't understand this woman.
@@artsychu. It’s so-
It’s weirdly gatekeeping and trying to needlessly validate her BS by suddenly being like, “The neurotypical people are attacking me because they don’t UNDERSTAND-“
Maybe some people, neurodivergent OR neurotypical, just don’t think your poetry is good or just simply don’t enjoy it?????
@@TheBrookelynChick Right! She's delusional...it honestly alarms me sometimes. Someone so "anti-bullying" going on a tirade about Rachel and attacking her character, channel views, calling her abusive - hm. I???
@@artsychu. Weaponizing her mental health in this capacity is so harmful and toxic enough- but this is the first that I’ve ever heard of her being neurodivergent. (I can’t remember a single instance of hearing about her having ADHD.)
Not only do some people seeing her tweets probably not know the meaning of being neurodivergent vs neurotypical, if they do learn, she’s putting neurodivergency in such a negative light. People with ADHD and autism don’t need this malicious view casted upon them, Gabbie-
I agree! As a neuro divergent women, I didn’t find her poetry particular captivating. People don’t have to like your music or poetry. Doesn’t mean they don’t understand lol. It comes off elitist to me.
If only Rachel would take THAT amount of time, effort and work she took to criticise my poetry... Gods, I would feel so blessed to get that quality of criticism to grow as an artist.
Gabbie could have gotten SO MUCH from all the great advice Rachel gave her...
As a creative writer, who writes both poems and fiction, I feel the exact same way. I love getting my work critiqued. I've been sincerely missing the college workshops.
Same! I’m an artist and I rarely get feedback. I encourage people to give advice on how to improve.
the dog book was a satire of gabbies book but rachel did it with her dog! theres a cute video of them choosing words together and everything
Ok not today bestie , Rachel is literally the sweetest person on this plat form she didn’t take the mick she criticised it constructively she’s a literal literature critic honestly go and watch two seconds of her videos and you’ll see how nice she is
Gabbie Hannas Instagram stories literally said a whole load of nothing bar mental health buzzwords she learned from her therapist and the word "bitch"
Hey bestie 👋🏽 also gabbie Hanna commenting on someone else’s inability to handle criticism while having a freak out over criticism she received LOL
I've watched rachels videos and they aren't even mean. She never picks on anything but gabis poetry. gabis poetry is bad and lazy, but Rachel even compliments some of them that are good. gabi expects everyone to love everything like girl.... you aren't a poet. if you put your art out there you have to expect bad reviews. I'm a writer myself and yeah its disheartening sometimes for people to find flaws but I personally listen to it if its true and try to make it better
The parody of the her poetry was actually good.
Gabbie's name isn't bringing as much views as it used to because I think a lot of people started realizing she loves the traffic it brings to her channel and she can use it to promote new projects and most people get tired of her saying no one can take criticism meanwhile not keeping that same energy when everyone can have their own opinions on art. Art is supposed to be different for everyone, rachel is allowed to not like gabbies poems and gabbie doesn't have to pay attention and shouldn't go after a small account that a lot of people don't know about.
I have been seriously disturbed by gabbies actions before but that was really hard to watch.
That energy is not healthy for anyone including herself. That aggression towards another woman? Calling her a bit*h repeatedly.
@@Raya-ir4tm I agree, as you can see I didn’t claim she secretly hates women. I do think as a self proclaimed advocate of women succeeding and respecting mental health...there is a disconnect. That’s all, I think that for many we still view bit*h as a word used against women specifically. Especially with her tone it is clearly meant as an aggressive slur.
I fully think Gabbie is allowed to free speech, to defend herself. But I personally think that the way she spoke is not healthy.
This is the first time I've heard Gabbie say that her book was about SA or whatever experiences she had along those lines. Am I missing something?
I must have missed that part too
it's her trying to retcon actual meaning into a nonsense book she wrote in an afternoon once people called her on it being garbage
The books are oddly long for poetry..critics only focused on 30% cringey, filler one liners (i agree) but there are some great poems in there that deal with it..keep in mind that her core audience are teen kids that grow up on SM and can digest this topics(especialy if they relate/live in the abuse) in a way us older millenials can not
It’s stupid because last year when people were criticizing the “seriousness” of her poetry (the lack of seriousness) gabbie literally said that her poetry isn’t meant to be taken seriously and it’s supposed to be humorous.
@@Daisy624 yeah cause everyone regurgitates the same 5 silly poems over and over(out of hundreds)...so she refers to that..
You absolutely spoke for me personally in your disgusted silences. This woman is basically inciting a mob. She is loathsome to the extreme. And I'm a published artist, so apparently I'm permitted to criticise her writing. Her writing is an insult to humanity; it practically mocks itself.
Edit: Like, I'm genuinely grateful that you've spoken for me on this, Adam. Gabbie has truly enraged me now.
The way I DIED when he said "gaslight, gatekeep, girl boss, Gabbie Hanna"
Rachel wanted to like her second book and literally was sent it by gabbie and was like oh I think it’s rlly great that she took the critism and I hope this is good then gave tips for writing poetry
Bebe Rexha saying she's never heard of Gabbie Hanna in response is iconic
She’s using as many buzz words as she can to come across as well articulated, gain sympathy, and destroy the other persons character. When in reality she is coming across as immature and annoying.
agreeeeeed
it’s not even that rachel was making fun of it, she was genuinely critiquing it from the standpoint of an actual poet and someone who understand literature 😭😭
and gabbie SENT rachel her second poetry book to critique.....miss girl shouldn’t ask for answers she knows she’s not gonna like
I was really surprised she didn't drop and album or announce any new music. They hate she sent to Rachel was totally unnecessary.
Oh I needed this today.. The gabbie hannah cycle..
It's a wheel of misfortune she brings on herself.
Rachel is honestly the most fair in her criticism of Gabbie’s poetry what even
I really don't like Gabbie calling others women bitches. all that does is make men think it's okay.
I genuinely think these are manic episodes. I've had them before and saying stuff like "I'm not having a breakdown I'm finally healthy" is a textbook manic thing to say. You feel better than you ever have before which makes it hard to understand that something is wrong. I tweeted A LOT during that time too
agreed!!!!!!
Ohhhhh no no no.... I love Rachel. She’s lovely. She’s a literature and poetry enthusiast and she does this with all TH-camr books. She did them with Trisha and Lele Pons too. Rachel has also gone through a lot of ish. Like. A lot. Gabbie is so so in the wrong. Seriously. Omg. Wtf.
Right? I’ve been watching Rachel for a long time, she’s very sweet and not hateful at all. She reviews a lot of poetry snd writes her own
I cant deal with the aggression in Gabbie's response? Is that just me being sensitive but... her using so many hard words against Rachel just feels so aggressive and harsh and makes me flinch.
Not just you. I was in a live stream and lots of people felt that way.
@@jennyveile Thank you bestie. I've been so uncomfortable with her language toward women she's beefing with, and I'm so glad I'm not the only one...
“Cause I think it’s shit.....” 😂😂😂 You’re my hero!
I loooooove Gabbie’s rebuttal that were all just intellectually inferior because we don’t like her poems 😂😂😂😂
But if we read between the lines, we’d see the thought and heart behind her poems. I think “Link: in bio” is a poem actually about the bourgeoisie and class conflict. Only us intellectuals get it...
@@squidstortellini7131 ok are you serious? If art speaks for itself then why does she have to spoon feed us the meanings behind her poorly written work? I’m pretty sure art is subjective.... however, her work is objectively weak
@@ellieknobel2374 haha no I’m not being serious, it’s just so funny how she thinks soooo highly of her “”poems”” that she says none of us were smart enough to understand the ~artistry~ of these pieces of word vomit
@@squidstortellini7131 lol i thought u were serious forreal 😅😅
@@ellieknobel2374 art is subjective. that being said regardless of what her message was...if it was poorly executed and her readers didn't interpret it the way she intended as a writer it simply just means she needs to improve on her delivery. Being an artist doesn't mean everyone has to like your work but since Gabbie thinks everyone should. I think her best decision would be to actually improve her work, maybe take some creative writing classes.
I've been a fan of Rachel for a while now (I think her videos on Gabbie's poetry is how I found her). I feel like Rachel's treatment of Gabbie was never from a place of malice. Anyone who watches her videos knows that Rachel is a lover of poetry, which is why she's so passionate about critiquing objectively terrible and lazy poetry. If Gabbie's willing to charge such an exorbitant amount of money for her 'poetry' book, she should also be willing to have it critiqued. Also, she sent her second poetry book to Rachel, which speaks for itself.
A lot of people on the internet need to learn how to distinguish criticism from hate.
There are plenty of other TH-camrs who have poked fun at Gabbie's poetry, but you don't see her starting beef with James Marriott (who I'm a big fan of) out of no where. Even if Rachel did make a load of videos on it, it's her right to. However, most of Rachel's videos were providing constructive criticism and looking at poems she thought were better than Gabbie's. It's not as though she bullied Gabbie, but Gabbie seems to interpret criticism as bullying.
I thought I should also note that Gabbie's comment about neurotypical creators was kinda ignorant. I'm pretty sure Rachel is autistic (considering she posted something about autism on her story just after Gabbie made that Tweet). Even if I'm wrong (and correct me if I am), it's ignorant to assume that everyone who did make videos about her poetry was neurotypical, not creative etc..
This is all so infuriating, and it's even worse now because Rachel's Instagram was disabled because of Gabbie's stans.
Edit: I've changed my mind about Doggolescence (as in I'm no longer iffy about it). I realised that it wasn't a mockery of just Gabbie Hanna but a satire of Instagram 'poetry' and how easy it is to write Instagram poetry (as in even her dog can write it). There's a video of her dog picking out the words, for context on the Doggolescence thing.
I feel like so much of this happened in to past too. If Gabbie felt like the first review was abusive, why send her the second book??? And Doggolescence was published last year, so this all feels so targeted.
I also think it's silly to say that Rachel isn't creative, since she also partially wrote Doggolescence.
@@mikaylafindlay1997 Exactly!
When Gabbie sent Rachel her book, she said something about wanting it in the hands of someone who loves poetry, so she must've, at some point, thought Rachel was 'intellectual' enough to appreciate her art (a term I'll use very loosely for some of them 'poems').
Everyone has the right to defend themselves, no matter how long ago the thing was, but it genuinely seems like Gabbie's just in the middle of a breakdown. Even so, that doesn't excuse her calling her critics abusers and allowing her stans to attack Rachel, when I don't think (m)any of Rachel's fans attacked Gabbie.
It's genuinely infuriating that Gabbie can't see her own hypocrisy or figure out that she's always the common denominator in the criticism she receives and the drama she puts herself in. I guess you could try to justify it with her being ND, but, in my opinion, that doesn't excuse harassing and bullying a smaller creator, accusing them of being a bully when you're calling them 'ugly', a 'bitch' and 'abuser'. It's honestly disgusting.
Oof sorry for that rant lmao
@@mx-piggy I think it also feels really targeted since Gabbie is directing all of this at RO, even though Rachel was probably one of the nicest reviews I've seen out there. Gabbie goes on and on about girls sticking up for girls, but then ignores all the men who criticized her even when they were worse. Also, we need diverse reviewers and critics as much as we need a range of artists.
If Gabbie wants to join the world of writing, or music, or whatever outside of youtube than she needs to let go of her echo chamber of stans and learn to deal with negative reviews and constructive criticism.
I feel for any anxiety or hurt GH is feeling, I've been through some exceptionally harsh criticism myself, but I feel like it's really common to make art out of trauma. It doesn't make her special in this case, and it definitely doesn't exempt her from criticism. Maybe she shouldn't engage with reviews, or have someone else watch them and try help her glean the useful information. However, I think it's really hypocritical for GH to try to use mental health as a crutch and excuse, to then turn around and be ableist. She can't claim to know that all her negative reviews come only from neurotypical people, not in directing towards RO, and not in a generalized call out.
@@mikaylafindlay1997 Couldn't have said it better! I don't think Gabbie should be calling out people for reviewing, critiquing and/or poking fun at her work when she's published it to the public and monetised it. However, there were male creators who were far less constructive with the stuff they said and just made some jokes (James Marriott and Drew Gooden for example) and yet she said nothing about them. Instead, she targeted someone who wanted her to improve.
I have a hard time believing she fully watched Rachel's videos, especially after a TikTok she made about Rachel's Bo Burnham video, where she said Rachel didn't like Bo Burnham (20 seconds in she said literally said she was a fan of Bo). I know it doesn't sound like that big a deal, but it proves she didn't watch that video, and, from what she's saying about all of the other videos, it's hard to believe she watched many, if any, in their entirety. She's not obligated to watch them, but, if she's going to rage about them online to her rabid fanbase, she can't not watch them/lie about the content within the video.
rcaheal reviews a lot of books and gave fair critism and referred her to other poets with similar styles
Rachel is such a sweet, smart and thoughtful person... thanks for standing up for her even if you don't know her. I hope Gabbie's psycho stans don't run her off the net :/ they've already reported her Instagram account so many times it has been temporarily taken down.
Literally saw this video in my recommended and thought “eh I don’t care about gabbie” and kept scrolling, then saw it again and thought, “ok I’ll watch it for Adam’s sake” so when you said your videos about her under perform I felt that
I highly recommend watching Rachel’s videos. She’s highly educated in literature, well-spoken, and fairly non-biased when critiquing youtubers work. She has never once bullied Gabbie and if you watch any of her critiques on Gabbie, or even Shane, she doesn’t disrespect them as people, but instead critiques their writing style and offers advice to improve said works
I hate the way Gabbie trivializes abuse and mental illnesses by saying she's being abused by narcissistic personalities, even though neither of these are subjects to be taken lightly, especially because narcissism is a diagnosable disorder and abuse is serious and traumatic. It's not traumatic to be told you write bad poetry by someone who studies and writes poetry. I just don't get how she calls herself an activist and then decides to attack and belittle people using continually stereotyped and diluted issues
It can’t be only me that questioned why she targeted Rachel?? I mean I really don’t think it’s bc she was the first one to make a video on her book. I think it’s bc she saw Rachel as an extremely easy target. Sounds like internalized misogyny to me.
@@Raya-ir4tm Rachel has critiqued Bo, Shane Dawson, etc. Gabbie has specifically targeted Rachel, and now Angelina. Also it’s just not this situation, it’s observing Gabbies past behavior.
But your entitled to you opinion.
Gabbie has a complex. For a long time she was successful but insecure. And she insulted herself so other people would give her sympathy and validate her talent.
But then her career began to decline and people weren’t as interested in her music and didn’t receive her poetry the way she wanted. Now she is doing a 180 by lashing out and guilting people because they aren’t validating her talent anymore.
It’s easier to ignore trolls or the average reader because she can rationalize it by telling herself they’re just haters or don’t know what they’re talking about and insist she’s the smartest person in the room.
It’s harder to ignore someone who actually understands poetry and can give detailed, substantiated critique that goes beyond “I don’t like it.”
james marriot made videos on her too, and even got more views on most of them. I can name so much more, like ready to glare and alizee. i dont know why she chose rachel, but it feels so outta pocket
I tried to see Rachel’s Instagram but it’s gone, I heard the stans mass reported her account and it’s down now. That’s so sad
I think she got it back now
Rachel Oates just posted that she lost her IG account after being targeted by people flagging her. I have watched many of Rachel's videos and the "meanest" she gets is disappointed mom.
This whole thing was basically “bullying is wrong so let me bully them to show that bullying is wrong” (even though I don’t think Rachel bullied her and provided valid criticism in her videos)
Rachel also just got out of an abusive relationship, and her subs saw her messy aftermath, so Gabbie continuesly calling her a narsissistic abuser is even more disgusting. I don’t know if she knows about it, but I can still imagine Rachel felt daggers in her heart when she heard that come out of Gabbie’s mouth.
why does she try so hard to be so unlikeable? This behavior is just unreal
Demi Lovato is at least more lighthearted by slamming a local frozen yogurt business as it doesn’t have options that cover many food rescritions
you should bring your animals into these videos- they’re so effective in reducing stress, plus they’re adorable
Rachel is a lovely creator. Why she said she was so disappointed was because gabbie sent her the books, begging for attention and love, then Rachel was just honest. She is just as passionate about art and poetry, if not, more than gabbie who i sure bet never read any poetry aside from school assignments from years ago and milk and honey lmaoo
Gabby is like the mom on Instagram that takes everything so seriously and posts every time she has a minor inconvenience
Gabbie is having a onision timeline
I just started the video and wanted to chime in to say,
If you can’t sit still, no one should give you a hard time about it. It’s just a body movement that helps you connect with your environment.
You do you! ❤️
Rachel criticized Gabbie's *BOOK*
Not Gabbie as a person.
Gabbie sent Rachel her second book. And now Gabbie is complaining about an Honest review.
Is also just funny how Gabby is not defending her book. She is not going after what Rachel said about the books and providing explanation or u know objectively defending her work. She is literally harassing Rachel.
Disgusting behavior.
Gabbie is mad that a commentary youtuber....commented....on the situation....
She really had no reason to come at Angelika like that.
*surprised pikachu* also how does she know that the people who don't enjoy her poetry are non-creative and neurotypical ? I'm definitely neurodivergent and an illustrator and I think her poetry is rubbish. Her drawings aren't great but they aren't bad either but her writing is plain and boring.
I finished the video and I cannot believe my ears. Gabbie has used the "abuse victim and mentally ill" card enough. She's trash and unable to handle criticism and I'm shocked at the violence of her speech against Rachel. She's really a shitty human being who doesn't even try to have a good look at herself before she spits hate towards other.
Also you can write a book about your abuse and it still be a bad book. Get over it. And if you think some of yor poems are bad, why did you include them in the book ?
I think it's funny Gabbie calls herself an "artist", yet those who went to art school learn one of the most important lessons early as you start your career: detaching yourself from your art, and mining for constructive criticism. Anyone can be an artist, but those who accept the criticism are the one's who actually grow to be amazing ones; those who don't, stay mediocre. She sounds like she's only pissed because she sees this as a personal attack onto herself, instead of the artwork is produced. While you can have your own personal influences on your work stated, it's the medium in which you do so (i.e. for her, it's poetry), which is still open for criticism.
Rachel Oats videos analysing and criticising of Gabbie hannah's poetry are so generous and fair to her. Gabbie literally could've chosen anyone else who made videos talking about her books for her rant but choose Rachel who has a degree in English or Creative writing.
Every time Gabby goes off like this I feel bad for Andrew and the fact he used to date her lmaoo 😬😬
Fan of Rachel here, I have her book and have read it multiple times, it’s a playful parody of Gabbie’s book, nothing attacking Gabbie, just taking the kind of poems like “link in bio” that we all joke about and writing it from a dog’s perspective. Plus there’s additional heartfelt poems about her own experience caring for a rescue dog who was previously abused, and shedding light on the trauma and abuse that rescue dogs struggle through in their lives. Clearly Gabbie has never read it because her depiction of the book is so out of left field that saying “Jeffree Star is a nice person” is a more accurate statement than her claims.
i really like rachel. to be honest, sometimes she can be a little condescending, and if i was in gabbie's place i probably wouldn't like it either. HOWEVER, rachel rarely gives unsubstantiated criticism, and she usually offers a way to make whatever she's reviewing better; gabbie's books are no exception. she really takes the time to read the poems and analyze them, she doesn't just laugh and move on. i understand gabbie feels hurt by a lot of things, some of them unrelated to her poetry, but there's a difference between standing up for yourself when people are being unfair and going after everyone who has ever disagreed with you. adam, i highly suggest you go through rachel's videos and see for yourself that she's not just shitting on gabbie's poetry for no reason.
I think it's also important to put Rachel's criticism in the context of the professional reviews. Speaking as someone who has been on both ends of it, her videos are honestly extremely kind and obviously meant to be helpful, and I wish more people modeled their critiques in a similar way. I've had reviews that rip into my work, but even though it hurts you have to deal with it and improve. Not everyone will like what you do, complement you, or provide good advice on how to improve, but that's how it goes.
@@mikaylafindlay1997 totally agree!
“most of my videos about you underperform.” 💀
I bought the Dandelion book by Gabbie cause I wanted to read something new. Out of all the poetry, I like 22 out of the 148 poems. I enjoyed the short stories because it gave a sense of vulnerability and authenticity where a lot of the poems in the book felt very half assed. Like I feel that she has potential to write well, but I feel like she doesn’t put in 100% throughout the entire book.
Edit: Also, as a fellow illustrator and poet (kinda), I also value my art, but I’m open to criticism; good or bad. Granted some of the criticism will be ruthless and may hurt my feelings, however I just take the things I can use and move forward in creating. You don’t have to bully people who have constructive criticism about your art.
Rachel Oates reviews a lot of poetry, Gabbie is wack for bullying Rachel for doing a pretty nice review honestly.
It's so weird because Rachel doesn't even really make fun of Gabbie? She gives actual constructive criticism on how to step up her writing. That should be helpful. She never attacks Gabbie Hanna herself.
Wtf does she think booktobers do or commentary channels about movies and series and music do? all of those people buy something and then talk about it bc, as you said, when you buy something or put something out on the world people are allowed to think about it in a way you may not like but that's part of wanting to be an artist. If she really dislike it, then she shouldn't be putting stuff out for people to buy it.
Also, I'm sorry, there's a difference between standing for yourself and having a mental breakdown and you CAN stand for yourself without having a mental breakdown but every time she "stand" for herself she's having a mental breakdown. There is no need to scream or rant every time she tries to defend herself just like right now, there isn't a need to drag someone down and called someone a "narcissist bitch" because you're "standing for yourself".
please do a video on the Demi lovato situation. She’s so messy too 😭
Yes!!! I’m a recovering alcoholic and if I made a huge deal out of every time I walked into a grocery store, gas station or bar and got “triggered” i would be triggered constantly! The world doesn’t just change and stop around people’s triggers. Only the person in recovery is responsible for their response to triggers! She’s getting DRAGGED on Instagram right now.
@@hollywood2499 As she should be, she attacked a small business using her platform of >100M because she felt triggered by a sugar free cookie it’s laughable ?? 😭
this isn't even the first time gabbie has responded to this she responded to this when rachel first posted her critic??? so what is she even talking about
The fact that Gabbie went after the nicest reviewer out there.... Rachel literally was super respectful and even provided a lot of really good constructive criticism (which is not necessary when you're doing a book review!) and Gabbie called her an ABUSER!!! For making a book review!!! This woman literally throws around random words until they mean absolutely nothing.
Also-fan of Rachel’s here, hi-the only time Rachel has so much as mentioned Gabbie in months was a passing reference in a random video and it was so small most people who watched didn’t even catch it so yeah, Gabbie just has something new coming out to promote and attacking people is the only way she knows how to get attention at this point, and Rachel just so happens to be the target because she accidentally started the trend of making videos about Gabbie’s book
Gabbie Hanna learns words like “gaslighting” “manipulation” “abuse” “crazy” “ sociopathic” etc and literally RUNS them into the ground. she’s constantly repeating herself and what she’s saying, using ‘big words’ to try to make herself seem smarter but ultimately it makes her sound annoying. if she can’t use her words correct , she shouldn’t be using them at all. not to mention the fact that those words mean serious things and she’s using them as a way to make this girl who is making commentary on HER public book seem ‘unhinged.’ very weird.
She talks about Rachel like she's made hundreds of videos berating and insulting her, and Rachel's only made like 7 videos out of 300 giving genuine constructive criticism of her poetry, the last one being 6 months ago, and MIND YOU she only made that last video bc GABBIE sent Rachel her second book for free bc she thought it deserved to be in hands of someone who understood the art or whatever
Couldn't Rachel's book be considered as a parody? Something that needs no permission to be made and is completely fair use. Gabbie has taken things too far once again
And the fact she still itreally attacking Angelika after she had her rant with that girl, like no she needs real help cause clearly the only way to release what she feeling is by attacking people online
Gabbie literally sent Rachel one of her books...she’s just being annoying tbh
Rachel is an absolute icon who has been more than fair in her reviews of Gabbie's poetry, she's actually been constructive with her criticism and has so much knowledge about poetry so this is really on Gabbie for not being able to take any heat about her clearly problematic creative direction
I love when I’m watching one of your videos and the BOOM I get an upload notification lol. You are an underrated TH-camr in my opinion, you constantly push out content several times a day and to me, I LOVE that so much
I forgot to pause this so when I came back it's 19 minutes in and bestie I thought you were taking selfies mid video
I’ve never heard somebody claim “narcissistic abuse” from _sooooo many_ people. The irony of her playing the victim while constantly misusing these terms like “narcissistic abuse” - “hate campaigns” - “dehumanizing” or “misogynistic” is unbelievable.
Adam youre officially keeping company to me until new frenemies airs 🧋
Lol I’m waiting for that as well 😂