This is my first leverless controller, and I went with it since all the more prominent brands need to justify the higher price point for what you are getting compared to the competition. The market is so new that companies are just coping with what worked. I went with s16, although my concerns were the additional buttons getting in the way. However, I'd rather have more options than fewer; the extra buttons don't get in the way. I also use this controller to play emulators on my iPad (I haven't tested it on the iPhone, but I suspect it works). However, one of its most underrated features is its size, which makes it easily fit in my backpack without occupying too much space. Although the downsize might be ergonomics, I have relatively small hands, so it's not uncomfortable. But if you aren't concerned about traveling, you can go for the more bigger T16. The G16 is a higher-profile version of the S16 but share the same size. For a first-time controller, it's worth the price. Especially since some of these higher-priced controllers may lack compatibility with other systems., this is an automatic deal breaker since you are paying $250+ for an outdated controller.
For the price of a single ‘high-priced’ controller, you can get 3 different Haute42 controllers/sizes. 265 dollars will get you an S16, M16, AND T16..and they’re all capable with a plethora of platforms…no contest. It’s a new era and Huate42 is championing it.
Doing research for a hitbox and came across your vid. I jus want to say how well put together this video is + editing. Also your music choice is SOLID. I need IDs for all the tracks you used, please. I as bumpin the whole time
I appreciate the kind words. The project file for this one is gone. Perhaps I can do a music-spotlight/showcase video every so often..or put it in the description; idk, we'll see.
Just bought mine a few days ago, super good, and honestly I got used to lever less way faster than I thought I would, so I’m already getting a bunch of use out of it. I still play with it in my lap like my lever, and I don’t think it’s as annoying as people say. Charge inputs are so much better 😩👌
If it’s a switch issue, any low-profile switch will work. amzn.to/3XE7s8G If it’s a cap issue, the caps on the S16 are 23.3mm with one BIG 26.6mm. At the moment, I have not found any caps in this size. However, 20.2mm with one BIG 25.3mm will also work. amzn.to/3XGzlwD
I totally forgot you can customize the RGB lighting on this thing, also something to add regarding the low profile switches and keycap design of this device, these allow you to slide and double tap techniques as you do them on hitbox with sanwa buttons which not entirely possible with other leverless controllers due to higher microswitches.
I really like the controller, but I really wish the "left" button was about 2 millimeters higher. My ring finger gets uncomfortable. I managed to make it a bit more comfortable by positioning the controller diagonally, but I still wish it perfectly matched my left hand. Might make a custom one or something.
Thanks for the review, I was looking for a leverless controller to by my first and feel it all but was hesitante to spend 200 dollars on it, just found the S16 while searching for discounts on the Snackbox Micro🤣. Found it for less than 50 bucks with shipping, that is much better to get started on a new layout of controller.
Subbed! Thanks for the quick dive into these, I've been considering picking one up! As an aside and friendly suggestion, back off your mic a bit to get rid of those mouth noises in your recording 😉
i had the same issue, i have small hands and my hands started straining cuz i had to keep my middle ring and pinky fingers stretched out every match, i loved the kitsune except for the buttons are spaced out more than a regular hitbox layout i feel the buttons were slightly larger as well
Thank you for your honesty. The S16 is comfortable on your lap if you're reclined. If you're an up right type player, you will have to get a folder, a book, or a Tupperware top. Or, check out the T16. I play, mostly, reclined and have an old planner binder that I bust out when I have to get serious.
I have ordered kailh ghost switches for my T16 and hope those will make it even better. I wish there was a T16 that supported more than just low profile switches and a set of Choc V1 compatible caps would be great too.
how do you have 15 subs , might as well sub with all my accounts lol . Your content is crazy good , especially the editing , keep it up man ! ( edit : got you to 20 subs : D )
Are there any preset profiles that you can just set without having to configure much? I ask because the main thing I care about is having L3 and R3 mapped to the two buttons next to up(the big button).
You’re in luck, that’s an easy map. R3 is already mapped to the right of ‘the big button’ so you just have to map the left one to L3 and you’re done. Open the Web Configurator.. Configuration > Pin Mapping > Set PIN26 to L3. Done ✅
Do the button caps come off easily? I've heard people saying their button caps would pop off constantly while they are playing. With something like sanwa buttons, you can slap hard on them all day without worry, so I'm still deciding.
No, the MAYFLASH Magic-S Ultimate Adapter is a brook alternative (half the price, double the features). There’s an EXT Port on the controller (00:00:39) that you plug in the adapter, then, the controller connects to your PS5 console. At the moment, there are no Haute42 wireless options.
With Haute42 controllers, yes, only wired. However, the MAYFLASH Magic-S Ultimate can connect wireless-capable gampads wirelessly. Ex. DualSense to Switch, Joy-Cons to PS5, Xbox to Switch, etc., all wirelessly.
If you play sitting upright, it’s not ideal. If you play laid back, it’s comfy. A table, desk, or a cutting board on your lap is preferable. I’d recommend checking out my video on the R16 and then seeing what makes sense for you. They’re both great btw.
Unless you have XS hands, you’ll be fine. As for lap-play, you’ll probably need a book or chopping board to play comfortably until you finish your setup.
i am more a fan of the m16, as it weights heavier and comes with a brilliant quality touch to it, but I guess we can all agree, that haute42's products are by far the best on the market. I dont see the point in spending up to 400 on "high quality" products such as Razer, or snackbox or hitbox.... it all comes down to the switches.. any other aspect doesnt justify the high prices. so no wonder why haute42 is getting so much good feedback lately
hi, nice video, i was thinking to buy the s13 or the g13.. ( same as s16 and g16 but less button)... i see the g versione have the w (up) button a Little bit more on the right of the s(down) button.... because i more used to wasd layout like keyboard and i don t think i will use the up input on the botton down button... Who is the more confortable to wasd for this situation in your opinion? Thanks ☺️
Great question. Both the 16s and 13s have up, down, left, right arrow buttons (WASD). If L3 and R3 are not important to you, then the G13 is a fantastic choice. I will say, if you did need L3 and R3, you can always set hotkey functions for them; for example: fn + B1 = L3 and fn + B2 = R3
i would argue a point though, S16 is undoubtedly faster by default, but on g16, if you change your switch to something like Kailh Speed silver, it can register faster without pressing too deep compared to regular red switches. im using it on my custom small leverless and it's been great. i like low profile switches but the i can't just justify the price. It's slightly less popular here, but i can get speed silver for half the price of Kailh choc v2 Red, so as long as that is the case i wont be switching back to it anytime soon. i would say if you wanna commit to leverless but have a little extra on you, get the T16. it looks more comfortable than the S16.
Interesting perspective. It's wonderful to see how different options can cater to individual preferences. Keep enjoying your setup, and thanks for sharing your experience!
@el_teqck so basically you connect the pad to the controller and turn on The PS4 console with the controller. Do you need to connect anything into the PS4 console ?
It's great to hear about the Sallybox as another viable option for those looking for a more affordable build. I'll definitely check it out for future comparisons!
@@el_teqck The SallyBox controllers I've seen are pretty much the exact same as the Haute 42 G13. Really the only difference is the location of the OLED screen and the default switches. The Haute 42 G13 uses LEOBOG Graywood V4 switches and the SallyBox uses Cherry MX Speed Silver switches. Both are quality linear switches and you'll find people who swear by the Greywoods and others who swear by the Cherrys, really just a preference thing.
Oh yeah. For sure. In the beginning, the WASD option felt intuitive for me. But, I’m definitely team ‘UP/JUMP at the spacebar’ now. In fact, it was a super smooth transition. I used WASD while I built some muscle memory with my right hand. And when I was good with the right, I transitioned to ‘UP/JUMP at the spacebar’..
The s13 is great. But the 3 extra buttons on the s16 is just perfection for me; and, a must if you plan to play smash bros. with it. There is no wrong choice btw.
I wish it had bt or radio connection. It's a pain connecting the wires each time, I wanna just grab and fight. Especially painful considering all other controllers and peripherals on my desk - keyboard, mouse, headphones, gamepad - are wireless.
At the start of the video the author claims this is not a sponsored video, proceeds to talk marvels about the product and at 6:45 he shares his affiliate link which would give him money if you buy said product. This is a clear conflict of interests and he clearly gains from talking positively about the product.
Thank you for raising this point. I’ll clarify the distinction between a sponsored video and one with affiliate links. A sponsored video involves a direct partnership with a company where they pay the creator to promote their product or service. On the other hand, affiliate links are a way for creators to earn a commission if viewers make a purchase through those links, but the content itself is not directly sponsored by the company. In the case of this video, while I do earn a commission through the affiliate link, the opinions expressed are based on my genuine experience with the product.
That's a really high compliment，I am so grateful to you！！！
Keep up the good work! 🙌
Im thinking if getting this controller pretty soon, hope it stays low price for awhile 😮
Just put in my order. Can't wait, s16 and magicboots should be here right when Akuma arrives next week.
This is my first leverless controller, and I went with it since all the more prominent brands need to justify the higher price point for what you are getting compared to the competition. The market is so new that companies are just coping with what worked. I went with s16, although my concerns were the additional buttons getting in the way. However, I'd rather have more options than fewer; the extra buttons don't get in the way. I also use this controller to play emulators on my iPad (I haven't tested it on the iPhone, but I suspect it works). However, one of its most underrated features is its size, which makes it easily fit in my backpack without occupying too much space. Although the downsize might be ergonomics, I have relatively small hands, so it's not uncomfortable. But if you aren't concerned about traveling, you can go for the more bigger T16. The G16 is a higher-profile version of the S16 but share the same size.
For a first-time controller, it's worth the price. Especially since some of these higher-priced controllers may lack compatibility with other systems., this is an automatic deal breaker since you are paying $250+ for an outdated controller.
For the price of a single ‘high-priced’ controller, you can get 3 different Haute42 controllers/sizes. 265 dollars will get you an S16, M16, AND T16..and they’re all capable with a plethora of platforms…no contest. It’s a new era and Huate42 is championing it.
Thanks!!!
what do you mean you only have 54 subs. i started this video and thought this was some big channel with 100k.
amazing editing and video man
Thank you for the kind words
I opted for the T16. It's a great controller.
Great choice.
In reality, there is no ‘wrong’ choice.
The 16s are all fantastic controllers.
@@el_teqck Agreed.
High quality edit man. Great job.
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Top notch editing and great overall review, thank you for the info!
Much appreciated! Thank you for your kind words. 🙏
Great break down, really enjoyed the review!!!
Thank you. Much appreciated. 🙏
Finally someone who still plays like they mean it on their couch
😂😂🤣
Doing research for a hitbox and came across your vid. I jus want to say how well put together this video is + editing. Also your music choice is SOLID. I need IDs for all the tracks you used, please. I as bumpin the whole time
I appreciate the kind words. The project file for this one is gone. Perhaps I can do a music-spotlight/showcase video every so often..or put it in the description; idk, we'll see.
Just picked mine up at an Amazon returns store for 7 USD. Feels good
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Just bought mine a few days ago, super good, and honestly I got used to lever less way faster than I thought I would, so I’m already getting a bunch of use out of it. I still play with it in my lap like my lever, and I don’t think it’s as annoying as people say. Charge inputs are so much better 😩👌
🔥🙌🔥🙌🔥 yeah. I got use to the ‘leverless way’ very fast too.
Leverless > Everything Else
i bought this and the 4 keys on the far right (2 top 2 bottom) keep getting stuck - any recommendations on what to replace them with?>
If it’s a switch issue, any low-profile switch will work.
amzn.to/3XE7s8G
If it’s a cap issue, the caps on the S16 are 23.3mm with one BIG 26.6mm. At the moment, I have not found any caps in this size. However, 20.2mm with one BIG 25.3mm will also work.
amzn.to/3XGzlwD
I totally forgot you can customize the RGB lighting on this thing, also something to add regarding the low profile switches and keycap design of this device, these allow you to slide and double tap techniques as you do them on hitbox with sanwa buttons which not entirely possible with other leverless controllers due to higher microswitches.
!!! 100% !!!
I really like the controller, but I really wish the "left" button was about 2 millimeters higher. My ring finger gets uncomfortable. I managed to make it a bit more comfortable by positioning the controller diagonally, but I still wish it perfectly matched my left hand. Might make a custom one or something.
Interesting take.
It feels great to me.
Custom is always an option.
Good luck with that.
Thanks man just ordered one. Gonna pick up haute 42 next. cool videos
You’re welcome. Happy to help.
Thanks for the review, I was looking for a leverless controller to by my first and feel it all but was hesitante to spend 200 dollars on it, just found the S16 while searching for discounts on the Snackbox Micro🤣. Found it for less than 50 bucks with shipping, that is much better to get started on a new layout of controller.
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I subbed SO HARD on this.
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Fun video! I just bought a Mayflash f500 Elite and Im already thinking of getting S16 lmao
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Subbed! Thanks for the quick dive into these, I've been considering picking one up!
As an aside and friendly suggestion, back off your mic a bit to get rid of those mouth noises in your recording 😉
Great suggestion! 🙏
I have a Kitsune and it's great. I however have tiny hands and just stopped using the last two buttons lol Is the s16 comfortable in your lap?
i had the same issue, i have small hands and my hands started straining cuz i had to keep my middle ring and pinky fingers stretched out every match, i loved the kitsune except for the buttons are spaced out more than a regular hitbox layout i feel the buttons were slightly larger as well
Thank you for your honesty.
The S16 is comfortable on your lap if you're reclined. If you're an up right type player, you will have to get a folder, a book, or a Tupperware top. Or, check out the T16. I play, mostly, reclined and have an old planner binder that I bust out when I have to get serious.
bro, I love this review! The red hand wraps made me lol 😂 I’m gunna start playing Tekken in my Kimono🥋
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I have ordered kailh ghost switches for my T16 and hope those will make it even better.
I wish there was a T16 that supported more than just low profile switches and a set of Choc V1 compatible caps would be great too.
Awesome! Please write an update on this when you have a chance. There's not much online regarding user's experience with different switches.
what adapter do i need to connect haute42 t16 or this one u show?
Depends on what platform you want to connect to.
PS5 - Booter5
Xbox - mayflash Magic x
I have them listed on my website (link in description).
how do you have 15 subs , might as well sub with all my accounts lol .
Your content is crazy good , especially the editing , keep it up man !
( edit : got you to 20 subs : D )
I appreciate it. Thank you for the words of inspiration.
can you tell me after you set profile 1 and profile 2 pin mapping, then during gameplay, how do you switch to profile 1 or profile 2?
I believe this is what you’re trying to do. On profile 1, map a button to profile 2; then, on profile 2, map a button to profile 1.
What key caps did you find that fit the G16? Or is it the same struggle
Keycaps for the G series are way more available. 2:57
amzn.to/3y0Bc4B
Are there any preset profiles that you can just set without having to configure much? I ask because the main thing I care about is having L3 and R3 mapped to the two buttons next to up(the big button).
You’re in luck, that’s an easy map. R3 is already mapped to the right of ‘the big button’ so you just have to map the left one to L3 and you’re done.
Open the Web Configurator..
Configuration > Pin Mapping > Set PIN26 to L3. Done ✅
Holy moly the editing is so good… do you have experience editing videos?!
Haha. 1st try. Jk
We may never know the answer ;)@@el_teqck
Do the button caps come off easily? I've heard people saying their button caps would pop off constantly while they are playing. With something like sanwa buttons, you can slap hard on them all day without worry, so I'm still deciding.
In my experience, the button caps have been great! 🔥🔥🔥
@@el_teqck Thank you for letting me know.
When you say the mayflash works for PS5, its like wireless? Assuming a brook for wired.
No, the MAYFLASH Magic-S Ultimate Adapter is a brook alternative (half the price, double the features).
There’s an EXT Port on the controller (00:00:39) that you plug in the adapter, then, the controller connects to your PS5 console.
At the moment, there are no Haute42 wireless options.
@@el_teqck Oh ok so the mayflash is wired.
With Haute42 controllers, yes, only wired.
However, the MAYFLASH Magic-S Ultimate can connect wireless-capable gampads wirelessly. Ex. DualSense to Switch, Joy-Cons to PS5, Xbox to Switch, etc., all wirelessly.
Does anyone know how to connect this to a switch?
Just plug it in to the dock or directly to the switch. No adapter necessary.
Do you have any idea where to get those utility caps, I got the m series but the spare caps are clear like the default ones?
I found some on eBay; however, I have no experience with them and cannot vouch for them. Best of luck, and, please let me know if you find any.
@@el_teqck thanks ill check
How comfortable is it to use it while having it on laps? Do I need a desk/table?
If you play sitting upright, it’s not ideal.
If you play laid back, it’s comfy.
A table, desk, or a cutting board on your lap is preferable.
I’d recommend checking out my video on the R16 and then seeing what makes sense for you.
They’re both great btw.
Would u recommend this for small hands? or do i need something larger, I plan on playing this on my lap until i get my gaming setup n shit
Unless you have XS hands, you’ll be fine. As for lap-play, you’ll probably need a book or chopping board to play comfortably until you finish your setup.
i am more a fan of the m16, as it weights heavier and comes with a brilliant quality touch to it, but I guess we can all agree, that haute42's products are by far the best on the market. I dont see the point in spending up to 400 on "high quality" products such as Razer, or snackbox or hitbox.... it all comes down to the switches.. any other aspect doesnt justify the high prices. so no wonder why haute42 is getting so much good feedback lately
Huge wake up call to the big boys. Big win for the people. 🙌
Just bought the T16. It's worth it
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hi, nice video, i was thinking to buy the s13 or the g13.. ( same as s16 and g16 but less button)... i see the g versione have the w (up) button a Little bit more on the right of the s(down) button.... because i more used to wasd layout like keyboard and i don t think i will use the up input on the botton down button... Who is the more confortable to wasd for this situation in your opinion? Thanks ☺️
Great question.
Both the 16s and 13s have up, down, left, right arrow buttons (WASD).
If L3 and R3 are not important to you, then the G13 is a fantastic choice. I will say, if you did need L3 and R3, you can always set hotkey functions for them; for example:
fn + B1 = L3
and
fn + B2 = R3
Hello, may I ask if you could do a product review for us?
Depends..what do you have in mind?
It function by default with Xbox series x/s or i Need and adaptor like in the case of the Ps5?
If not the big Brother t16 does?
For xbox x/s, you will need a MAYFLASH Magic-X Adapter.
amzn.to/4aSbBt1
@@el_teqck thank you very much. Apreciated man💪🏾
bought s16 after watching this video, too bad there are no keycaps.
They’re decent..you’ll be happy with them; especially, at this price point.
does it work with windows 7?
Sure does. Put it into keyboard mode and enjoy. 🙌
i would argue a point though, S16 is undoubtedly faster by default, but on g16, if you change your switch to something like Kailh Speed silver, it can register faster without pressing too deep compared to regular red switches. im using it on my custom small leverless and it's been great.
i like low profile switches but the i can't just justify the price. It's slightly less popular here, but i can get speed silver for half the price of Kailh choc v2 Red, so as long as that is the case i wont be switching back to it anytime soon.
i would say if you wanna commit to leverless but have a little extra on you, get the T16. it looks more comfortable than the S16.
Interesting perspective. It's wonderful to see how different options can cater to individual preferences. Keep enjoying your setup, and thanks for sharing your experience!
@@el_teqcknice video btw man, i see lots of people talking about t16 lately but not much of g16 or s16. keep it up!
Will the cord that is supplied ,connect to a ps4 or do you connect it to the controller itself ?
The cable included will work.
@el_teqck do I need to upgrade the firmware at all , or just connect the controller and good to go ?
It works out of the box. It’s super easy to update the firmware btw.
@el_teqck what are the benefits of upgrading the firmware. Just an updated version?
@el_teqck so basically you connect the pad to the controller and turn on The PS4 console with the controller. Do you need to connect anything into the PS4 console ?
Does it really work with Xbox?
Yes. With the MAYFLASH Magic-X Adapter amzn.to/3vFcd5Z (running latest firmware) connected to the ext. port on the controller, it works.
wait, for real this works on xbox? i haven't found on that does it
Yes. With the MAYFLASH Magic-S Ultimate USB Adapter (link in bio) connected to the EXT Port of the controller, it will work on Xbox.
Sallybox clears you can get the same build for $30
It's great to hear about the Sallybox as another viable option for those looking for a more affordable build. I'll definitely check it out for future comparisons!
@@el_teqck The SallyBox controllers I've seen are pretty much the exact same as the Haute 42 G13. Really the only difference is the location of the OLED screen and the default switches. The Haute 42 G13 uses LEOBOG Graywood V4 switches and the SallyBox uses Cherry MX Speed Silver switches. Both are quality linear switches and you'll find people who swear by the Greywoods and others who swear by the Cherrys, really just a preference thing.
Someone on Etsy sells s16 buttons
Name is thetboxshop
Thank you!
Just got mine on sale from aliexpress for like $40 😩 keep an eye out for sales yall
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You sound like Baz Luhrmann of Wear Sunscreen song
“my advice has no basis more reliable than my own meandering experience.”
An appropriate summation of my mission.
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Im sold
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Can i play out of the box or do i need to update smh? @@el_teqck
Up = jump = keyboard = space bar
Elaborate.
@@el_teqck Use space bar to Up/Jump like everyone else does on fps games. Its more intuitive
Oh yeah. For sure. In the beginning, the WASD option felt intuitive for me. But, I’m definitely team ‘UP/JUMP at the spacebar’ now. In fact, it was a super smooth transition. I used WASD while I built some muscle memory with my right hand. And when I was good with the right, I transitioned to ‘UP/JUMP at the spacebar’..
the s13 is good??
The s13 is great. But the 3 extra buttons on the s16 is just perfection for me; and, a must if you plan to play smash bros. with it. There is no wrong choice btw.
I wish it had bt or radio connection. It's a pain connecting the wires each time, I wanna just grab and fight.
Especially painful considering all other controllers and peripherals on my desk - keyboard, mouse, headphones, gamepad - are wireless.
It definitely would be the cherry on top.
We can only hope Haute42 heeds the call of the people.
At the start of the video the author claims this is not a sponsored video, proceeds to talk marvels about the product and at 6:45 he shares his affiliate link which would give him money if you buy said product. This is a clear conflict of interests and he clearly gains from talking positively about the product.
Thank you for raising this point. I’ll clarify the distinction between a sponsored video and one with affiliate links. A sponsored video involves a direct partnership with a company where they pay the creator to promote their product or service. On the other hand, affiliate links are a way for creators to earn a commission if viewers make a purchase through those links, but the content itself is not directly sponsored by the company. In the case of this video, while I do earn a commission through the affiliate link, the opinions expressed are based on my genuine experience with the product.
Just picked up the S13 for Strive and Tekken. Don’t think I need the extra 3?
Fantastic! For Stive and Tekken, you’ll be fine.
Smash Bros. will need some tinkering with.