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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.ค. 2024
- Matt and a group of expert cavers returned back to the cave for deeper exploration...things didn't go exactly as planned.
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I have a son in middle school. He has pretty good judgement most of the time, and so do his friends. But I noticed something interesting about groups of middle school boys. When they form a recreational group the average decision making capacity, judgement, and intelligence of every kid in the group immediately drops to that of the lowest group member divided by two. In other words, apparently rational and intelligent boys immediately start acting like complete idiots. And I see that happening here too.
I thought the exact same thing. The previous Dive Talk video of this had the guys sounding smart and cautious. But this time, with all "the boys," it was throw caution to the wind, do whatever, "don't wanna look like a ***** in front of everyone!" It's hard to stop though. I'm a guy; I've been in that situation before. Well, not in an underwater cave, thankfully.
Obviously doesn't affect all groups of guys all the time. But that's how quickly it can "unravel," before someone gets hurt. And someone did get hurt in this video, even if not serious. Add in caves and water and this could've turned out a lot worse.
I’m in my early 20s and I can even say this still happens when you get together with friends in most cases it usually just causes more fun but not in these cases 😂
Yes and, honestly, if they want to be dumb and risk their lives I can only barely bring myself to care.
What really upset me was seeing them destroying the rock formations with their stupid jokes!
You found a group drop in intelligence in a group of kids including your son and from that very limited, unscientific, personal observation concluded that this was a thing! And it was applicable to all people or all males. Absurd. If one of those kids had thrown up you'd conclude no telling what from that. Thankfully people don't use your logic.
This made me laugh because it’s so true 😊
I was a Park Ranger who gave cave tours. Every now and then we would have someone hit their head and it's fascinating how fast mold starts to grow on areas of blood on the cave. I've also been able to go off tour caving with a guide and I can't imagine doing it in water. And yes, Texas has issues with flash floods and I don't think these guys have enough respect for the dangers of what they are doing.
I doubt they considered flash flooding, due to the drought. I’m sure they checked the weather beforehand too.
@@charlesbryson7443they can’t even predict the weather accurately anymore
water can come from 30 miles away u dont know how its conected@@charlesbryson7443
@@charlesbryson7443 flash flooding is most likley to happen right after a drought, mainly because it's so hard for the ground to actually absorb that water.
I did cave tours too. Been in a lot of non public caves working for state parks for a couple summers.
Don’t wait to be invited. Ask Matt if you can make a video diving his caves!
yea if these are the "cave divers" he got a hold of then i assume he doesnt know you guys
He didn't get ahold of these guys, they called him. If you do the same I'll bet he will invite you out.
I did see Matt responded to a comment they placed on one of his videos, so he's definitely aware of Dive Talk.
Hey wanna see Matts deep dark dank holes.... in the ground.... 😂
I agree, voice it!
This is a perfect example of how easy it is to drown.
It's only easy to drown inside an enclosed cave
@@bigboicremePeople drown in bathtubs its easy anywhere with water
@@bigboicremeNo it's quite easy overall. Plenty of kids drown in pools every year.
@@Yggdrasil42 I'm talking about adults
@@bigboicreme unfortunately, that's rubbish
The lack of appropriate kit & preparation is really alarming. There’s so many ways this could have ended fatally. Thanks for the commentary and insight.
Yeah - these guys are laughing but they should be reflecting on the fact that the first vid was a hair away from a fatality.
I literally did stuff like this when I was like 18-19 yrs old- and I look back at it now in wonder of how we didn't end up dead or seriously injured- or at the least in need of serious rescue. We went into a cave like this once- about this far underground to- and our flashlights died on us. We had stopped on the way to the cave and went into Walmart and bought a pack of 5 flashlights for like 10 bucks- gee, I wonder why they didn't hold up? 3 of them never even came on- they were dead out of package- which we didn't find out until we needed them. Yeah, we didn't even bother to test each light- we just pulled out the first 2 and went for it. When they died- we go to use the other 3- they're DOA. We had a cigarette lighter- which made it about 50-75 yrds and then the plastic that holds the striker wheel and all melted, and it fell apart. Now we're in cave in total darkness- blacker than any darkness I've ever seen- about a half mile underground- in a cave system with endless tunnels and cracks to get lost in- and we've never been here before and do not know our way around. Plus- we all know that before we can get out we have to crawl through a section about 30 feet long were you have to lay on your belly in the water and keep your head up- no lighter is going to get you through this. You would never be able to keep it above the water as you crawled. So, we know we're trapped- and it's starting to get ugly- ppl are panicking, arguing, starting to blame one another, etc.- not good. But thankfully- as everyone is arguing and fighting, I see a little light coming. At first, I thought I was imagining things, so I didn't say anything but- eventually someone else is like "Hey, what's that?" It was a church group who had decided after church to come see the cave- and once they noticed our truck parked there and saw our footprints- a couple of them decided maybe they should check on us and make sure we're alright.
Now you can say whatever you like- and sure, maybe it was all pure coincidence and meant nothing- I can't even say that I believe in a god- but as far as miracle stories go, I think this one holds more weight than about any other I've ever heard and believed in. It's truly odd that these ppl came out there on that day, for the first time- at the right time, and noticed our footprints, and decided to check it out. I mean 99% of the ppl I know would've looked at those footprints and thought "Good luck guys" and then left. I don't know anyone who would've went in, for over a half mile- until they found us. Especially considering it was getting dark out, it's a Sunday afternoon, and they have their wives with them.
This was a great comment to read, thank you for sharing. We all do some stupid stuff like this some time or another. Glad that intervention happened, whether divine or not.
It's a pretty great coincidence and I'm glad you were all safe and able to share the story but I can say your chances would have been close to none if it happened in a day that's not Sunday. They were good people who just happened to be curious about the cave and the footprints intrigued them and wanted to check where the people who printed them; Good thing you all survived and it's unfortunate to know that there are incidents like these that didn't have good endings .
Speaking of coincidences. I also helped in saving a life or at least prevent severe wounds. It was pretty late at night when I was watching TV at our Uncle's house which is close to our grandparents' house; just along the street and the place I sleep at is the latter so decided to go to the other house to sleep since it's late at night and when I walked out I noticed a bright light .
T was also a coincidence that there were teens who just happened to pass by and noticed it too and it was on fire; a small shop made out of woods and we went to fetch water from a barrel in the front of the yard of my Uncle's house to put out the fire. There's also a child inside the burning shop and we shouted to wake him up and he did and panicky opened the padlocked door; fortunately, he survived; the cause of the fire is a candle that was probably kicked or fell that went on to enflame the curtains .
I'm glad that child survived. I would probably not help that much alone but I was glad that I was able to help put out the fire along with the people who just happened to pass by. I don't know if he would have died if we hadn't happened to notice it but he would have had severe injuries; glad that he escaped unscatch but hopefully with a lesson on how to be careful with fire .
Tagging @@jjhaya in case you’re interested to hear my story. OP’s story is absolutely amazing. Mine isn’t that dramatic, but I do believe it’s a miracle.
My little sister and I were playing in waves on a beach, and long story short we went out a bit too far, and she panicked. Her panicking was “freezing.” She stayed in one place despite me trying to drag her back to shore, yelling at her to follow me.
Each wave that crashed over us dragged her further into the ocean. I tried waving to people on the beach, but there were so few and no lifeguards present. She was about 8 feet away from me, and I was closer to shore.
Another wave hit us and while I was under the water, I prayed once “God, please help us get out of here.” I came back to the surface, and my sister was right next to me, and both of us were able to easily stand.
That wave was an answer to prayer. Unlike all the other waves that crashed over us (dragging us further out and separating us), this one brought us together and closer to shore. We walked out of the water and I gave my sister a long hug.
I learned many lessons. One of them being that panic can happen at any moment. One moment my sister and I were laughing and having fun, the next she almost drowned. I also thank God she was able to control her breathing and not breathe in any water.
Wow, cool story. I’m not religious, but that’s a cool anecdote. Wild
Wow, what a story. God bless that church group!
That shot with dude's face barely above the water pressed against the ceiling is f-ing terrifying.
In other videos of Matt , he talked about how they are in a very severe drought and the river next to the property is dry, so there's a posibility than in more normal conditions the cave gets flooded
by the time when matt recorded the video it already rained enough for the river to grow on that resort
@@CUBEoneVX underwater aquifers need a lot of water though, the river might be flowing, but it doesn't mean that they are back to normal conditions
I'm on the property adjacent to them and it has rained enough recently to fill that thing up
the drought looks to be in the river in the valley . so how much water would they get where the cave is at .
You can tell by the rock formation in the cave walls when they drained it that the water levels are pretty consistent in that cave. Maybe not during a storm but in general
Yall are wondering if the cave floods fully at times? The answer is yes. A man by the name of George who sump dove this cave before showed up to the ranch and told us all about this cave. They dove it while the cave was flooded up to the ceiling so go during a wet time of year if you want to attempt this. Yall are so right about the murky water eating up light. That George guy said he would just turn the lights off to conserve battery because they are useless in the silt. They explored the cave by feel back then in the 70s.
Pretty sure Matt has way more guns good luck with all that
I think Yall got the link to Ryan's channel wrong. Some Arabic channel or something was put in the description instead. It's underground adventures and the channel is in english!
The only open leads that exist in the cave are ones you need to think skinny in order to fit through. We are 5'11" and 170 pounds and we barely even fit. We can widen them out though if anyone is interested in crawling through them but it does not seem diveable because the gear would become caught on the sharp rocks that make up the passage
Love your channel, would love to go out exploring if I could find some unregulated caves
Your channel gives me stress and yet I can't stop watching.
They kept mentioning how crazy it was to see footprints from the last person that had been down there... But they didn't notice there weren't any footprints of them coming back out...
So it opens in the back otherwise there would be a report somewhere of some kind and Matt would have mentioned it in his first video lol
7:05 “According too the piece of paper from the 70s on a crumpled napkin” 😂😂😂😂 I’m in TEARS. Truer words haven’t been spoken. Excellent breakdown!
I’m a fan of all of Matt’s channels. The minute he found underground caves I thought of you two. You guys need to go down there.
Got to make this happen
It doesn't seem like a good collab to me...
Woody and Gus are careful, safety conscious and reverent of the environments they're in. These guys seem like the exact opposite.
Same thing. 3 weeks ago, when I saw the first video, I immediately mentioned Dive Talk in the comments, then somehow my comment got reported for spam/deception something like that and TH-cam threated to ban me from commenting. 😅 Don't know what happened there...
I seriously need to know what’s beyond 😮 you have to go
@@athanksgivingbaby570 Matt typically is very safety conscious. He just had a small lapse in good judgment when choosing who he entered the cave with again. The action adventure twins are pretty experienced when it comes to dry caving but they are wild. I’m not sure who the other guys were though and Matt should never go back in a cave with the dude who went full panic mode. I think Matt would very much respect and appreciate Gus and woody and there extreme emphasis on safety.
like someone else said, dont wait to be invited. you two getting there could save a life or several
I’m from the UK, me and my brother went into a cave system next to the sea, we had no experience no equipment and no idea what was about to unfold, we went through some tight gaps and into some areas that opened up and then it happened we could hear waves and water rushing in..omg the fear and dread was horrifying, can’t explain it all but we barely got out alive and thought we was dead for sure. Be careful and don’t do stupid stuff.
I actually tensed up reading that comment , that must of been scary. Did your system basically jump into autopilot mode and the adrenaline got you out? I’m genuinely asking , I just can’t imagine how scary that would be .
So glad your well and you all got through it ok.
Forgot to ask , I’m from Scotland , what cave system was it yous did or what area of uk I mean, apologies if you feel that’s too nosey
Wow. Glad you here to tell your story
I always remember being sort of confused at how easily people get stuck on one another spelunking but I can totally see how this atmosphere of it being fun / casual whilst also extremely dangerous at a moments notice leads to incidents. No wonder all of the missing people in national parks tended to go missing near cave systems lol
Yeah that part where they were like there a river flowing! I was like “u mean the river that’s filling your cave back up while your inside”?
I have watched dozens of cave exploring videos from actionadventuretwins and they break just about every safety rule in the book. I have been mountaineering and caving for over 30 years and I have never seen anyone treat their ropes as terribly as these guys. It is a miracle these guys are alive.
My favorite part is when it clicks in woodys head that they are just doing some reckless life endangering shit.. you can always see when it clicks in his head from his facial expression the most facial expression of a face palm without actually doing the face palm 🤣
Having watched the "safety standards" of Demolition Ranch over the years, I'm not surprised they went through this with so little effort for safety for the caves too.
I do wonder if its more edited that way, I know of some youtubers who have had the opportunity to shoot at Demoranch (not the regulars) and there is a considerable safety plan
@@mattgraham1983 I know people that have different safety standards when they are with their inner circle than when they are with strangers, so maybe 50/50. This cave video doesn't look like a edit thing tho, that freakout at 9:00 you can't fake it unless you are a hollywood actor or something, that trembling in the voice is real fear
@@f3rny_66or good acting 😂
Matt is typically pretty safety conscious and aware of the dangers around him he just made a small lapse in good judgment when choosing who he went back in this cave with and I’m not referring to the Action adventure twins but to whoever the guy was that went full panic mode. Panic is the number one killer for people in water filled caves.
Matt may seem like some dude shooting stuff in his backyard, but DemoRanch is a multimillion dollar business, there is 0% chance he doesn't have some type of safety committee/person responsible for his safety protocols and lawyers covering him financially. Matt is no idiot.
Ex spelunker (NSS/Grotto/etc), recreational, and commercial diver here. There is no way I would follow anyone into a cave after pumping water out for four hours and shutting the pump off that’s crazy
I was in the kitchen and I heard Gus say these guys are cave diving with snorkels. I literally fell through the pantry door because I lost all control of my body from laughing too hard.
I’m ok though, I had a guide line tied to my recliner. Lol. Love you guys, be safe and god bless.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Draperies are formed when a water drop, saturated with enough calcium carbonate from overlying limestones, slides along the wall instead of falling from the cave ceiling and building up thin layers. The most common forms of deposits are calcite, aragonite, and vaterite, which are all different crystalline forms of calcium carbonate.
All I could think when I watched this was when I was a kid my dad used to take us caving. One of my core memories was him sitting my brothers and I down and making us promise to always keep track of the weather and other conditions before going caving because 11 people died in a flash flood in a cave near our house.
My dad used to work on this ranch when it was the Guadalupe River Ranch years ago.
That cave does indeed flood all the way up and does so easily when we get some good normal rain, but its been years since that's happened.
It would be awesome if you guys got out there and did some good exploration in there. There is also a cave down the road a few miles called Cave Without A Name that has some unexplored areas in the back as well. These 2 systems are probably linked in some way, as the hills in this area are known for numerous caves, due to the massive amounts of limestone in the hills.
Reach out to Bunker Branding in Boerne Texas to try and link up with Matt.
Would love to hear more info or stories about the cave system or the ranch. So interesting
That is a very pretty cave .
I'm glad it didn't rain.
How are you here 15h early :o
Matt is like down in South Texas near the San Antonio area this time of year they BARELY get any rain. Rain season in South Texas is like from Feb-Apr
@@ComsicQuestyep makes sense
@mackdigest It's raining down here right now.
@@ComsicQuest Well the main point is, that at no point have they talked about it. So we can't know if they are aware and have checked. The fact that they did not mention it making the opposite more likely
When I saw this video my instant thought was. “Someone’s probbaly going to die in this cave”
While I am way too claustrophobic to cave dive or dry cave I AM WITH GUS, that looks like way too much work
caving or spelunking is a blast. I grew up in north GA. There are so many caves there. We used to get off work from the Cracker Barrel @ midnight in Cartersville and head to Rockmart cave before they closed it off and a couple of others that were unfortunately closed off due to vandalism and preservation. It's a shame people ruin things and take away access for people that are respectful. Of course there's the safety aspect too. I was a dumb teenager exploring and very lucky nothing catastrophic happened. I followed some basic tenets (multiple lights, never alone and always a known route with ropes/markers). Knowing what I know now though I was still reckless.
If I can walk and at most hands and knees crawl short sections in the cave I’m still very on the fence 😂
I'm with Woody. Cavers are a TEAM. The dry cavers find the caves, find a sump then call in the cave divers. Both work in tandem.
A good example of this is the Snail Shell cave system. You need the to finish the goal. Sorry I am a caver.
Speaking of Gus & work, looks like somebody has been burning off some unwanted poundage! Lookin good Bro.
I am 100% satisfied to watch videos of these other people doing this stuff from the comfort of my above-ground, air filled warm house.
2:53 Woody: “…Where’s the cave divers??” 😂💛
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THANK YOU!!! There is no way anyone could get me to do anything like this. Just insane!
I see blood on two guys heads. Yeah, helmets are for loosers HAHAHAHA!
Gunna keep wearing mine!
Right?!?
I've got buddies in Washington that hike/caving every weekend. When I go to visit once a year I'll go hike/cave with them. They are too confident too the point they're a danger to themselves and others. They're so over confident they each have gotten lost/hurt/frostbite/ broken bones but they make fun of me that I go fully prepared with the right warn clothing for snow hikes and they're in shorts,band tee and torn sneakers ending hikes blue and shaking. I go once a year fully prepared and I've gotten 0 injuries. They go every weekend with no proper gear and 0 preparation and almost always have a type of injury or 2 times a year need emergency services that put others at danger for they're stupidity
Cavers simultaneously freak me tf out, piss me off, entertain me, and excite me. Yall are crazy man lol.
I'm so hyped for this thing to happen, more cave exploring
I won't lie, I got pretty mad when they got back to that big room and noticed it was filling back up and hung out as long as they did. They already knew they'd have to go back out through where they were stuck before prior to pumping it out. I'd have turned around immediately, but that's just me
They had someone outside at the pump who im sure could continue to pump it out
Just keep in mind, the cave don't care about how famous you are. It cares about slowly eroding rock and shit and will happily trap ya
It cares about slowly eroding rock and shit, lmao
I'm gonna add "slowly eroding rock and shit" to my interests list
Beautiful cave, I hope Dive Talk reaches out to them
Me thinking back to last video... 'There's crickets in here. There has to be some oxygen'. Woody, 'Yeah, FOR A CRICKET!'
The pov from the guy half drowning (Jacob/Mineral_dude) and video of the ActionAdventureTwin that did dive to the cave give a good perspective on the endeavor and are honestly a pretty scary watch imho.
8:48 that has to be the most raw emotion and scariest moment of that young man’s life.
Can’t believe the pumped all that water out.
Liability getting higher and higher every time.
I’m not sure I even want to see woody and Gus in this cave now lol 😂can’t jeopardize our national treasures!
PS: I still think helictites are formed through capillary action and not microorganisms, would love to hear you guys expand on it sometime.
I don’t know anything about the topic matter but wouldn’t helicites form from water that is flowing along the the roof due to contours and surface tension? For the drapery ones.
@@alexalt2630 that is the general consensus, yes!
As someone with severe claustrophobia, that panic was frighteningly relatable.
Try to cave dive anyway. Conquer your fears.
@@chuckh4077Nah, I'm good.
My family used to go to Crystal Cave in Pennsylvania...The Stalagmites and Stalagtites were so huge ... I don't know if that cave is still open but they used to take tours and it was amazing how huge the stalactites hanging from the ceiling were..
Yes it's still open, it's a short drive from my house
Would love to see that whole system mapped out by you guys that could be such a cool YT community project
Ignorance in these situations is what kills people.
I'm SO EXCITED for a part 4 with you guys in it!!! Hopefully you guys can get together with them and gather your team to find something amazing!
I'm terrified of diving but the whole subject fascinating, really love this channel. All the best to you both.
i was terrified when i went the first time. i used some old gear a friend had that he taught me how to use that day. we went into a 40+ foot deep spring-fed lake with a grate over the spring entrance, a very beautiful clear sandy lake. i watched the fish swim around for what felt like hours it was pretty cool. until it was time to head out i inflated the BCD a little to start floating to the surface but it failed and let out most of the air. i sank to the bottom, my friend saw this and came to help. we removed some weight and i was able to swim to the surface. with no experience diving and using old gear, i almost panicked when i started to realize i was going down instead of up. if i ever go again i want new gear and some proper training in a dive pool. i was lucky as nothing major failed, i was with a friend who was trained, and the lake would have been easy to get out of if i had to crawl out.
If you like the "draperies" you need to look at Jeita Grotto in Lebanon. It has some of the craziest giant formations, just beautiful! Lot's of those ones that look almost like fabric or fungus. It's a tourist spot, so not a raw, untouched cave, but gorgeous none the less. And, you don't have to get muddy, lol.
The dream 😍 ever since reading T.E. Lawrence and watching a steady diet of ActionAdventureTwins...there must be such exquisite beauty to be found in the landscapes of the Levant, the Gulf and North Africa. Lebanon and Jordan must be breathtaking in person! ❤️✌️
Not gonna lie. I was a little nervous seeing them around the stalactites not wearing helmets... like what if some fell and got them in the head? Could impale them. Had a cousin almost killy by an icecicle falling, and those can be about as fragile.
@@nicksavage4763? Do you agree or disagree
How does ur video say 12hrs ago???
@@oYork_guessing the channel has some sort of early release for subscribers before the video goes public
Jonah I just wanna say your username is epic and hilarious!!!!!
@@nicksavage4763 Also showed no respect to the cave breaking formations.
10:29 The walls and ceiling are covered with a thin layer of mud as high up as is visible in the video. It seems like they have to undergo complete flooding at some point. At the time of this video, Texas was under drought conditions and whatever rain they had in the typically arid hill country was not enough to raise the water level in the cave.
I don’t think Matt from OffTheRanch understands the difference between cave DIVERS and cave explorers. I hope he brings in professional cave divers.
Really hope they reach out to you guys.
ALSO WORD OF WARNING!!! They've been blasting on this property to build a road up from the river, I'm not sure how near the caves are to the blasting but it can't be good geologically to be in an area to be caving in an area that they've been blasting.
You guys were my 1st thought when I originally saw Matt's 1st cave video. I am surprised and a little disappointed that he didn't include you 2 in this one.
He didn't know about us, and that's okay if he didn't invite us even if he knew we existed, we are not the only cave divers in the world. :)
@@DIVETALK No you're not, but you're the best cave divers on TH-cam! I'm hoping he still invites you guys out at some point to explore. 🤞
@@zacharilowe oh no no, not even close, check out Mike Young, Brian Kakuk, Edd Sorenson…those are the GOATs, we’re just regular cave divers who sometimes wear funny hats.
@@DIVETALK I have seen some of Edd's videos. He's awesome! I'll check out the others. Thanks for the recommendation. You guys are a favorite YT personality who are also experienced cave divers....that's ultimately what I'm trying to say here.
@@zacharilowe well thank you for tuning in.
My two favorite channels doing a collaboration..... This is so freaking awesome!!!!
So happy to hear you guys are talking. I was scearming at the tv the first time the went in, repeating everything you guys have thought me!! If has been really dry where he is. The river on his property dried up for the first time in forever. Now there has been rain, so most likely the cave will be far more filled. I'm so so so looking forward to the videos and what an amazing platform for some more education!!!
Ive been waiting for this video. Couldn't sleep so i watched a bunch of anxiety inducing stuck in caves videos all night.
🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ they were happy and excited that they almost drowned, and werent even worried they couldn't see or hear their friend. Like a bunch of children 🤦♂️🤦♂️
Yeah that wasn’t funny
Yup, they are idiots. I'll watch their adventure till they dont post anymore ( cause dead ) though. And cringe plenty
I am so glad you guys explained how dangerous this all was... I love adventure but man sometimes you just have to use your head!
They should call in Sus
Lmao
They are crazy and reckless.
They're so busy being "Bros" that they don't seem to have cared about either safety or preserving the cave.
Can't WAIT to watch you guys give this the proper cave exploring treatment.
i just found your channel a few days ago. never knew you guys existed. never had an interest in cave diving before. but now you guys are awesome and now i can see how inspiring the experience can be. love both your quips and commentary.
Matt is a super easy going guy I guarantee he would love for you guys to come down there
Drapery is formed by water moving in to the cave at an angle... so imagine a water drop moving along an edge then falling... thousands of years and you get a drape. stalactites are when it drops straight down.
Demolition ranch has caused quite a commotion with their new channel. Entertaining and we all want to see beyond the cave map.
this channel has been around for years. its just the newest project "off the ranch".
New channel? lol
Oops my fault. I just heard about off the ranch. The I went to their channel and it has over 4milliob subs. 🤦🏻♂️
I’m so stoked for you guys to work with them holy moly!! This is sweet!
Draining it is probably the worst idea yet.
Why do you say that?
@@DangerDickDavidsonI also want to know
@@DangerDickDavidsonBecause it can re-fill. Many of these wet cave systems are springs.
I like the Action adventure twins they make great content in dry caves but this was extremely careless and extremely dangerous. Matt, please don’t ever go back into a water filled cave with whoever that dude was that went full panic mode, he will be the one that makes sure you never leave that cave again….
Stuff happens. They were told there would be air so they sent it, when there wasn’t, 50 feet in, and they were still breath holding and free cave diving, yeah I think anyone would have panicked. He invited them out to do that I’m sure they expected him to know things a bit and not just assume. But like I said, stuff happens, and I’m sure the guy won’t forget that. Nothing to ruin a friendship or partnership over.
Or is the reason this channel gets removed.
I don't his attitude in general. The part about "I want to snap these off"...wtf?
@@sandpiperr like he said, "intrusive thoughts". it's like standing on top of a tall building and thinking "damn it would be crazy if I jumped" and then not jumping because , well, that's crazy. smashing millennia old formations is crazy, doesn't mean it's not fun to think about.
@@sandpiperr he said it was his “intrusive” thoughts coming through lol he wasn’t seriously going to snap them all off.
I watch all of Matt's videos, this ranch is near a river that went totally dry this summer due to extreme drought. It now has water again for the first time in awhile. So I'd assume this cave floods in the spring but it's Texas so it might be like this most of the time.
That moment when he panicked, I worked with a guy who described how easily you can die like that. He was saying in some sections of cave the water is so close to the ceiling you float through on your back with your nose brushing the rock - panic and try to float upright and you're dead, as all your breathing holes are underwater. Make waves, and you're in real trouble, as the water will easily slosh up to the ceiling. He personally got lost doing such a section, and had to float back the way he'd come, essentially blind - and all the while keeping very very very calm.
In short. Fook dat.
There are multiple other cameras pov on the other accounts of part 2. Mineral Dude is the guy that partially drowns, action adventure twins is the lead with the spare air. All the screaming and splashing happens behind him and he just... Doesnt care. He keeps going. Thats why everyone regroups, sees each other bleeding and coughing and says "where's Everett?". Underground explorers and underground adventures also have cameras.
This whole situation is like the archetypal "trolley dilemma" come to life in slow motion. What are the ethics of encouraging 2 different people who are currently safe to go into this cave to save 7 people from more danger?
The weather report said it rained yesterday in that area and is going to continue raining through tuesday. I wonder if that area under the cement cap fills all the way up? The land didnt look like a dry riverbed so it might actually be a siphon if the water gets high enough, just now they are stagnant sumps.
I’m already imagining the super star team y’all are planning on getting together for a video in this cave! I can’t wait!
I love your guys' videos, because you always bring up safety. I've only seen the videos that your reacting to from this other channel, but I'm a little concerned that the other channel is not addressing the danger in what they're doing. They portray it as this really cool, fun thing to do and I worry that people, especially teenagers, will try to recreate the video and get into a bad situation. Also, I was pretty annoyed with them for breaking the stalactites, haha.
They pumped a bunch of water out of the cave beforehand, they should've pumped it all out and left the pump ready with a human walkie talkie chain in order to run it if necessary.
(Human walkie talkie is a chain of people within yelling distance ready to relay a message from one end to the other.)
Wtf. Haven’t watched a video from these guys in a year and Gus looks like a different person! Way to go!
2 things.
First: great to see that you give credits on the description.
Second: Gus I see that you lost weight! It's great to see your progress and I am trudly happy for you. Now you will fit in more restrictions hahahah! Keep it going greeat vids.
You guys should watch the part of the video where they went dry caving in another cave on the property before this. It was a much tighter squeeze all the way through. I was shocked nobody got stuck.
I am surprised none of them reevaluate their situation right after two of them went into panic before they drain the cave water. To many of us on here, that is a clear sign how a rather 'little adventure' these ppl have could turn into a disaster and someone may ended up dead.
Precautious and preparation is everything when we decide to go for any kind of adventure, especially exploring in cave which has so much uncertainty could happen. I just hope you two could get down there sooner and hopefully help their audience to understand all the things Matt and his friend could prepare to make the next exploring as safe as possible.
Whoop whoop! Get over there ya’ll, I’d love to see it. Hopefully Matt has you come out and explore his caves!
I was waiting for this video. I hope you guys get to go and help. Thank you Gus and Woody 🥰 ❤️
Love the video reaction of the cave and i can't wait to see you guys go there. i can see this cave being a cave diver resort spot if they flood the cave and open up the mud restrictions.
HI thanks for this. I saw matts videos and your reaction video popped up in my feed. I really enjoyed your perspective on Matts and Adventure twins videos. I have not been cave exploring since my early 20's but this gives me chills watching.
21:45, I was getting so anxious for them not knowing where they were going or how to go back.
Texas has a good rainy season. Maybe go then when the water tables are higher. You could see the water table gets high in those rooms by the marks on the walls.
9:08 creepiest face wtf
Wow! Exciting but so scary at the same time! I’m feeling so many emotions right now just watching this, I’d be full on panicking if I was there. Great video and input Gus & Woody 👍🏻😊
I love your videos!! I would never attempt anything like this, but enjoy watching your commentary on these cave explorations. I was only squirming for about half the video😂
Man the lack of safety is really shocking
The danger in running out of air in a situation where you have a small pocket, hard rocks, and your buddies can rapidly lead to multiple deaths. Edit: Helmets are very cool
Half expected them to pull hammers out and start smashing the stalactites while one was off falling down some slim mud chute and another was drowned trying to find a new area underwater.
Not too far fetched for these dorks.
Matt is probably my favorite content creators on TH-cam would be super cool to see you guys collaborate I’m intrigued by what else is down there so I’d love to see properly trained cave divers go down
Another gem of a video. I love hearing the opinions of cave divers regarding dry caving. Ear dippers are not too tough to get through so long as you move very smoothly and slowly. If you move to quickly you generate waves and reduce the air space.
When draining a sump to get through it, you should always wait a few hours to see how long it takes to fill back up before proceeding. Caving can be a really rewarding activity that is very safe if done properly. Joining a local chapter of the National speleological Society will put you in touch with many wonderful folks willing to teach newcomers the ropes both for the sake of safety and conservation. These guys seem like they know what they are doing. But they sent the wrong guy into the dipper. Go slow and never hesitate to say that a passage may be beyond your level. Always good to have at least one older caver along, they dont try to get you killed as much, lol.
I replied to Matt several times to contact the NSS for his local grotto. And look at who we brought in lol. I'd love to see a team map the whole system.
Definitely think it's a stretch to say they "knew what they were doing." I think one or two of them did. Obviously some of them did not.
I'm not an expert, but I know caves are eco systems with unique environments and animals. Doesn't draining the cave, to make it easier for these guys, F the cave up ??
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It depends on the animals in the cave. I was thinking the same thing, certainly it's not ideal for them. Since it didn't go completely dry, some of the aquatic life could have survived, but things like eggs that are immobile could be killed by the drop in water levels, the increased turbidity caused by all the silt they are kicking up could also be a problem, as could the trampling. Sometimes, you'll get really rare species that only occur in one particular cave system, so I feel like a lot more thought should have been put into pumping all that water out.
I'm a biologist by training, but focus mainly on plants and rivers, so folks who specialize in caves and troglobite species could have some more nuanced information.
FYI The real reason why glow-in-the-dark equipment isn't used is because glow-in-the-dark items aren't magical, they need to be charged with sunlight for a few hours in order to glow. That makes them near useless as permanently installed cave equipment after the first 15min.
That could of ended so badly, especially when he panicked in that water.
This is cringe how ill prepared they are. Gus and Woody ;.; we need you to save the day
This would be a great experience for you guys along with Mike an be great to watch and see the cave newly mapped out go for it guys
Hi gents! If you fall off a subway train platform and land on the tracks, you can climb under the platform and avoid a passing train. There is a cavity running underneath the length of the platform (opposite side of the tracks from the electrified third rail) with enough height and depth clearance to accommodate an adult in the horizontal position. Get under there quickly and you can completely avoid the passing train! Great show!
Guys, I admit I haven't watched yall in abit, but GUS you look GREAT. Whatever your doing keep it up man, looking sharp.
WOODY! YOUR MY HERO. You're a joker that reminds me of my newfoundlander step father, with the kindest heart, and funny wit.
I will never stop complimenting you both for this amazing channel. Love the science side of diving.
I'M SO HAPPY YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT NOW!!! I've been a fan of Matt since I was in high school (2010) and I can't wait to see the chemistry between you guys!
i love how some of this stuff gets named "the scoobiedooved place" "the crawly area" "bolt in the wall" lmfao its funny after but idk man. respect to all of you guys who do this. its cool to watch everyone come back alive....i like these MUCH better than the bad ending videos...
i love that i got recommended this and your other videos. I really want to see yall explore this cave, underwater or dry cave
Beautiful cave. I am packed up and ready!!!!