The buddy of the second video has no excuses for his behavior, even if we assume that the guy who run of of air was giving him the worst out of air signal possible. If someone grabs you and makes signals that you don't understand you should ask if they are fine with an OK, if you don't get a clean OK as a reply you should stop and figure out the problem. For the rest great video guys, keep on going.
Exactly, but also if I ran out im grabbing my buddy and not letting ago, I'm grabbing my buddy TIGHT and not letting go until they understand the situation at hand, and will absolutely rip the regulator from them, after they don't understand
Been diving since 1984, over 1000 hrs logged. Ran out of air once when I was fairly new, and did take a rip off my bcd, it did work and it definitely saved my life in my opinion. I learned it as an emergency last resort skill from my instructor. Can't have thanked him enough. When I've shared that story before, at times its been received with disbelief, so glad you guys brought it up, it can save a life. Love the channel and all you guys do. Thanks for the time and effort you put into each of your vids.
Exactly...I have practiced this skill in a pool. As you ascend more and more air becomes available in the BCD and you reduce BCD buoyancy by breathing off of it instead of venting it out to slow your ascent.
I ran out of air once at 30 meters, even i showed the dive master i was running out of air.He absolutely needed to start swimming against the current. And then a sea lion ripped the band on my classes haha. I was able to stay calm and everything went fine and it was kinda worth it, amazing marine life on kickers island Galapagos
There is no good excuse for running out of air on a dive. Checking your gauge is so simple, there is zero reason not to do it or to forget. I’m the First Officer on a dive boat in Los Angeles, we have a compressor onboard and fill tanks between dives so the crew sees what pressure your tank is at after your dive. We have a rule on board that if you come back with less than 500 psi myself or the captain is going to have a very serious conversation with you about whether or not you’re going to dive again that day. We will talk to you about what happened why you came up with less than 500 etc. depending on the circumstances we may or may not not let you get back in the water that day. If you come back with less than 200 psi you’re done diving for the day, no questions asked, end of story. If you run out of air on a dive you have to show proof of remediation training before you can come back out on the boat. The liability is just too much for us to not take these measures and the captain and I don’t want to put our crew through the stress, and emotional/psychological trauma of one of our divers dying if we can avoid it.
Thank you for taking the safety of your crew and the other Divers so seriously. I wouldn't want to dive with anyone who didn't act as you just outlined. Sadly I've heard first hand stories of these mistakes being laughed off because no one happened to be hurt or died.
The worst one is the 1,100 dive buddy. If someone cares THAT little about you being clearly in distress, you should NEVER dive with that person again. EVER.
I am a non-diver from Germany and I am always amazed by your videos, explanations and thoughts. In addition, you two are an absolute dream team of sympathy ❤️👍🏻❤️ and competence! Please keep going 👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Wow, if you're claustrophobic and can watch this I'm impressed! I'm only mildly claustrophobic but can usually talk/think my way out of it, but I had a really hard time watching this video!
“Bad touching the turtle” spoken like a disappointed father Haha, cheers. Never knew anything about diving but your guys’ knowledge and insight is interesting to listen to and watch !
@@brandonboss2996 when marine life is touched, the bacterias propagate to corals and after a while, ends up killing it. therefore makes the fish more vulnerable to contamination. fish loses its natural ability to fight against infections, weakens and dies.
Kinda like how when Chris Columbus first encountered natives and the Spanish started making love with the natives and not only did the Spanish give the natives diseases, but syphilis actually came from those natives. It goes both ways.
@@elliottblackwell1747 People are more likely to abide by a rule if they understand why it is important. And in these comment sections, many people see the interactions. Not just the OP. Just saying...
My wife got me into diving when we met as she had been doing it for a few years already. She told me about running out of air before we met and had used her bcd to get to the surface. While I was doing my open water course I brought this up during the emergency accent part of the training, and the instructor said it wasnt recommended for various reason such as water inhalation but agreed that it was better than drowning. Years later my dive buddy and I were doing a strenuous ocean dive around a small island. At the time I was a cyclist and gym junkie, and also had been free diving and spearfishing for a long time, so I was very fit and capable in the water, and also very conservative on air. My buddy on the other hand though young and relatively fit, had a late night out drinking and was still slightly hung over. We were down at 25m when he indicated his dire air situation, and it took me by surprise how fast he had consumed his air because he was usually pretty good. I cant remember how much air I had left but it was a significant amount so we were able to buddy breath and ascend at a normal speed then return to shore no problems. I only had two incidents where I was at danger of drowning. First one was while I was decending at the start of a dive, at around 5m down the oring on my first stage went bang, so I had to make an emergency accent. It wasnt a big deal for me, but had me replacing those things more often after that. The second one was from exhaustion and lack of clear thinking. Id just finished my 3rd boat dive of the day, and while I was at the back of the boat on the ladder taking off my gear I dropped my dive knife, so I immediately put my face under water and watched it fall to the bottom 12m down. Without thinking, I handed over my bcd and tank, took a big breath and finned to the bottom and retrieved my knife. While finning back up I noticed I wasnt making my usual progress when I suddenly had a sickening realization. I felt my waste, and sure enough I was still wearing my weight belt. Instead of being rational and dropping it, I decided to power back up while wearing it, but I was really pushing it and by the time I was in the last meter of water I had unclipped the belt and was hanging onto the belt while desperately trying to reach the ladder. I made it, reclipped my belt and pretended it was nothing, but afterwards realised Id only done it so I didnt look foolish in front of the rest of the divers. A lesson learnt that could have cost me my life.
Thanks for telling everyone about these experiences man. I feel like I've just gained additional dive experience on "what to do & what not to do" after reading that. Honestly, I really appreciate you taking the time writing all that. Stay safe out there man.
@@Robmeisterflex watch my panic attack video. Never panic underwater. Be prepared for everything. Always check your gauge and don’t over exhaust yourself. Almost died in the Bahamas few years ago. I learned from my mistakes. I don’t want you to go through them.
I could never see myself being so comfortable diving that I wouldn't check my air every 1-3 minutes.. That would be like driving and never looking in the mirrors
Dude, I freedive 5-6 meters when im on vacation, If im pushing my limit down there trying to stay as long as possible, after getting to the surface in 5 seconds that air is GODLY.
I can't even swin 😬, but I'm taking swimming lessons because of you sirs. Your videos are very informative and entertaining, most of all, they make me wanna go dive right away.
I ran out of air once. I was a dive master at the time, doing a drift dive with another dive master. My mistake: I knowingly went below 500 psi because I was at the safety stop just drifting along and I felt it was safe to go to 300. We got caught in a downwelling current that took up down to 80 feet in about 30 seconds. Because the water was taking us down, there was no feeling of sinking, other than having to clear my ears. We both started to kick up hard and I ran out of air. I grabbed my buddy's bcd and signaled out of air. He have me his secondary reg and we ascended safely. If that downwelling was just a bit stronger, we both would have likely drowned. Lesson learned: don't play with the 500 psi reserve and realize that high current dives carry special risks.
There used to be a lady at my old church who closed her eyes like that when she talked about God. It’s funny that he does the same when talking about his passion.
I love it when people lecture or lay knowledge like that. I always took it as the equivalent to a significant other calling you by your name instead of “baby” or “babe” lol. May sound weird but IMO It symbolizes the seriousness and severity of the concern.
Learned some valuable lessons this summer when I ran out of air due to an equipment malfunction. Diving on an aluminium tank which had been over-filled to around 4000psi. This caused the gauge to stick at some point. Noticed the reg effort increasing but gauge still showed ~1100. Fortunately managed to alert the dive leader just as my air ran out and could use his alternate while we swam back to the line and safely ascend - luckily we were pretty much at the end of the dive and in less than 30ft by the time it happened. Not an experience I’d like to go through again!
If you ever have an SPG showing more pressure than expected of a full tank most likely the SPG is faulty, if a tanks maxpressure is reached then there is a ceramic burst valve that ruptures, to releave pressure for example in case of a fire. Close the air and release all pressure and check if the pressure gage needle goes down to 0, most likely it will not, faulty spg, I teach this to all my students.
And that's why "go xxxxx with a buddy" isn't always the best advice. I don't dive, but have hiked alone for almost 20 years because hiking with people almost got me killed.
@charlesdobronxcharlesdobro4660 It doesn't make us feel safe. It's one more thing that on top of other things to hopefully make the perp think twice if there's someone we could yell what he looks like or what's happening. It doesn't make us safe but we have to leave our house during the night sometimes so we do a bunch of things to try to make it safer. I always pretended to be on the phon3 so I could focus on my surroundings as no matter what I do, Perps are going to perp. Let's keep the focus on them.
I don't see it at all, that was defintely communication failure, the description says that the guy just pointed at himself, and the sidemount guy was just confused and kept asking him what? And the sidemount guy didn't ignore him and keep swimming he looked away and then looked back and he didn't see where the diver went.
I’m terrified of the ocean! I don’t think Scuba diving is something I would consider but I love watching your scuba reviews from the comfort and safety of my oxygen filled house!
Woody starting his reaction with ‘let’s play the video first’ shows you guys are really getting good at these videos! 😄 Great informative content as always!
@@annem1816 He didn't say one word that he doesn't want them to talk or react! He made them a compliment and you immediately start getting offensive. This Kind of woman. Jesus!
@@annem1816 Do you really want them to "stop and react" ? I am so glad you cleared that up! Without you nobody would have had any idea, that Gus and Woody really "stop and react" on a Dive themed react Channel with the video title "Divers react..."
I have practiced taking breaths from my wing on dives and tech workshops. It is an option for sure, but the breath is a wet breath. You need good airway control to not inhale water when taking a breath from your inflator hose. If a diver is very proficient and under control, AND needs the extra air, it is definitely an option. However, the caliber or diver that can successfully execute a breath from their BCD is probably not the same diver that is running out of air and needing to make an emergency ascent. Vice versa, the diver who is running out of air and making emergency ascents is probably not the diver to successfully take a controlled breath from a BCD during an emergency situation. I mention the possibility to my students in passing just as a little extra knowledge for them, but obviously don't demonstrate or add any skills to the standards set forth for any particular course.
Another great learning experience. Out of Air should only really happen when you have a catastrophic incident, like a free flowing reg, or a ruptured hose and you forgot the duct tape and purple glue. The Instructors I DM with insist that students know their PSI so that they rarely need to look to tell us. If you run out of air like these guys that means you weren't monitoring.....and the lesson here is really that there is no such think as looking at your SPG (or AI) too much.
Did you ever have a free flowing reg? Thats a medium pressure hose, it takes a while till your tank is empty. Same for a ruptured hose. Out of air should never really happen. That systems are designed to not have out of air incidents. If you're out of air, soemthing has gone horrible wrong. Actually i'm not even sure if that first guy is out of air, if he would have stayed calm he could have propably done a regular ascent, maybe would have only need to skip the saftey stop. It's very weired that he should end up with an empty tank (below 20 bar) while the others are still down there. And as soon as you reach 5m, you can breath almost forever out of a tank, 10 bars bring you far on 5m. So I'm not really convinced about that first guy and my assement is different. In this case - let's assume he's really low on air, lets say 10 bar. Dont panic. Signal low on air. Start slowly to ascend, not faster than your bubbles. He's going way to fast. Exhale Deflate Before the surface, make bubbles Check where you go up. Inflate (oraly) drop weights He propably had enough air for another 5 mins. under water, especially when he stops kicking against the current.
@@saschaganser Oh yeah, I know. I am Canadian and being very diplomatic here - even my "catastrophic" incident still gives you plenty of time. Suddenly looking down and noticing a 0 on your SPG or dive computer is something that should never ever happen.
I think that after some time certain divers have the tendency to become complacent because they have "soo much experience'' My dive instructor always reminded us that we should never forget our basic confined water skills. And that we should strive to build on the foundation with good practice and repetition. Some dive I see buddies just jump into the water without even chaking each other and that's unfortunate. If it is caused by recklessness, or lack or proper procedure then I really wouldn't consider it a dive "Accident"...more of a dive "incident"
If you are following the rule of thirds you would know that you're low on air long before you ever get close to running out completely. A rational person knowing they are getting low on air would be monitoring that much more frequently...particularly if they're still a ways away from the exit point.
As a cold water drysuit diver when diving a single cylinder system I typically don't have enough gas in my wing to take a breath. Also often the inflator and hose holds a bit of water. (lowest point of the system). Often when deflating a BCD it will first pushes whatever water in the hose and inflator out first and then gas. The person would need extremally good airway control. If someone is panicked and just looking for that one last breath there is a good chance that they are going to get a lung of water and now at a higher risk of drowning.
Also as a cold water dry-suit diver, I agree with you 100%. We empty our BCDs completely and use dry-suits for buoyancy. BUT, potentially if you were deep, like 90ft, you may have enough air in your BCD if you needed a breath at 30ft or so... That said, how about we all practice safe procedures and never need to attempt this? Sounds good to me.
This is why you should practice this skill so when you do run out which is always a possibility due to broken equipment and not just a lack of monitoring you can remain calm. This video is great that it discusses this skill. It is so easy to do. You can practice it at a safety stop.
Yes, I would also guess that it is not a simple task to breath from BCD under stress and in that depth and failure would probably result in inhaling water which would increase the trouble significantly. Maybe experienced divers can do it, but teaching that beginners could be rather dangerous. Normally as trained diver you should be able to hold breath long enough to ascend within the limit even without extra air, otherwise you should probably not dive that deep.
As a former rock climber who studied the methods of self rescue I can appreciate finding any way to survive. Breathe from your BCD, know how to rappel using just a carabiner, and as a former law enforcement officer, stay in the fight. Don't give up. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
"Giving me the im out of air signal and I'm like dude no I'm looking at fish" had me dying. Definitely would talk before hand before going down about hand signals so buddy knows what's going on. And like you guys said you should know when you are starting to loose air when it becomes harder to breath so at that point give the signal and dead up. I also have never suba dived so this is just from watching videos from you guys and others
Dude I'm old school emergency breath-straight-off-the-bottle commercial trained diver-- SOMEBODY is getting an ass beating over this. My crew duct taped an incompetent, dangerous tender once and left him in the shop yard about 3-4 hours. He quit. Commercial is a little bit different
@@chadwells7562 @MommaDeth we absolutely do. They demonstrated the out of air signal on the video, its a flat hand 'cutting'/swiping across your neck. There should be no reason to brief signals for: ok?, ok, problem, out of air, low air, what air pressure are you at, look, you lead i'll follow. There are more standard signs than that, but they're less common and it might be good to go over any you think will be relevent (like danger, shark, hover, clean up your trim, how do we respond to 'how much pressure'), but even if you don't brief those something like this should never happen because checking if your buddy is ok, getting an answer, out of air (and low air which is a fist at the throat/solar plexus), are all super important and super standard. the first two are used every dive, and should be used frequently in every dive. And even if that was all you had I don't understand why the second video didn't go like this: Out of air diver: out of air buddy: what? out of air diver: out of air buddy: you ok? out of air diver: problem, pressure 0, out of air buddy (i would HOPE this is enough but if not): what? out of air diver: either show spg to buddy, or grab buddies regulator Like.. as a diver i'm just really confused why there was a repeated failure to communicate leading up to the ascent. And I think both divers are to blame for not figuring out what the issue was/making it super clear
Great info on what to do when running out of air! I've been out of pocket building some stuff around my place so I need to get caught up on the last few vids. Hope you guys are having a great week!
The first video is the best example of why hanging something as cheap and practical as a whistle on your BCD is a good idea. Back in the days they wouldn’t let you dive in the Red Sea whiteout a signalling mirror and a whistle. Nowadays we have SMBs and DSMBs, but those two cheap things are still good things to carry with you.
I agree, I also bring my whistle and smb and 9000 lumen lights that have strobes for emergencies and feel a lot safer, like I shouldn't ever be one of the people stranded at sea for days if the boat leaves me behind etc.
wow im not a diver and never would have even CONSIDERED it a possibility cause im so anxious about being under water/drowning, but i recently found your channel and got ADDICTED i've been binging your videos and now i actually find myself wanting to take a course and try it, seems so peaceful and beautiful when you're not having an emergency situation lmao
I know right? I never had any interest in scuba diving before because I have anxiety issues related to breathing... but after watching all their videos I kinda want to try it!
You should bro. Scuba diving changed my life. It’s made me more intelligent, more calm, and more responsible. My small business (home improvement) has grown, and now I make over 1.2 mil a year. I love working hard now bcuz me and my wife get to plan our next dive vacation. Diving is the coolest thing we’ve ever done!
As long as you got good scuba teachers, diving may actually make you less anxious about water related incidents. I will say that I never really was much of a swimmer when I was younger but now I got my diving certs and am a lot calmer when it comes to water. you might "swim" while diving but it's so different than normal swimming. I don't know all I'm saying is it might change your life.
On my first open ocean dive my buddy said, dinner before our dive, she felt it was everyone’s responsibility to take care of their selves under the water. While I get that we are ultimately responsible for ourselves but the entire premise of buddy diving is that you have a second set of eyes, ears, air, etc. I told the instructor, after our dinner, I did not want to be paired with her for my dive. I was paired with the instructor and it was a fabulous dive!
Definitely the right decision on your part! Hers is completely the wrong attitude to have on a dive. You look out for each other, that's the point of the buddy system
I’ve realised … I’m getting obsessed with Woody and Gus’s videos. 😂 waiting for the next one. It’s so great to watch them after work and serves really well as escapism! ❤️
On my first dive after certification I ran out of air at 45 ft. Back then we used J valves. (1970) My J valve was triggered down because of kelp encounter. I made a free ascent without ditching weights by ascending no faster than the bubbles rising as I slowly "whistled" slowly released air. Worked like a charm. If you don't panic you can feel your lungs fill with air as you ascend and you time your ascent with the bubbles and lungs expanding. But those days were when we trained to do free ascents.
Early on, I had ran out of air, at 60ft. Current was strong but I still swam to the boat's anchor line (only ~30ft away) before ascending on the line. Got that extra breath from tank & lines, at ~30ft. Did a controlled ascent, in about a minute. Later on, in advanced class, we actually did emergency ascents from 60ft, as opposed to the beginner class, when we did them, from roughly 20 to 30ft. Don't touch the critters, unless you have fishing license, and its game that your keeping.
Obviously you’re ignorant on how easy it can be to harm marine life. Sometimes it can be ok to touch things in controlled environments, but many animals do not enjoy being touched and the sea floor may have a microbiome that would be destroyed if you are walking all over it. When you’re out in nature unless you know what tf you’re doing, it’s best to leave things alone. It’s still absolutely beautiful to see everything up close. I went snorkeling on a boat once and had a pod of dolphins swim around me, not even 6 feet away and it was incredible. Just look don’t touch.
@@issadraco532 No, you don’t touch marine life, particularly coral reefs. My greatest privilege was scuba diving in Australia when down there backpacking. You have to be respectful of the ocean. They are not little kittens, what planet did you grow up in? And you go on and on. Just chill. I’m glad you won’t bother diving cause you are the type of person that won’t follow the rules. These guys know more than you as to what’s allowed. Sure you could obviously get away with it, but don’t cry to us when the turtle bites your fingers off! You’re probably that lady that got her hand ripped off when she climbed over the barrier to the lion cage. But it was such a cute kittie lmao!
Love these vids. My daughter casually reminded me she turns 14 this summer and can get certified. We’ve been watching these videos ever since and she’s all signed up. As excited as she is I guarantee I’m more excited and will have to prepare predive for tears lol.
I started diving with my dad in the early 1980's. My dad was an old school sheriff diver that started with his dad in the 50's. I know this is wrong now but he taught me buddy breathing kills. They had done recovery dives on multiple divers on more than one occasion with one diver having plenty of air other diver out. My dad told me a story of when he ran out of air due to a j valve not being reset after a dive in a 100 feet of water. He swam over to one of the old timers giving him the out of air sign. The old timer gave him the finger pointing up sign. My dad taught me don't trust anyone to buddy breath. In there defense this was before the time of multiple regulators and the old timer was using a Aqua lung double hose regulator that was notorious for flooding when trying to buddy breath. Fast forward to today. Have a buddy you trust with your life that has a spare regulator but dive within "your" limits!
Breathing from the BCD was one of the reasons I used to really like my old Aqualung BCD. They had a cool fold up manual inflator hose with a valve that opened by pushing slightly against it with your mouth. It was super easy to manually inflate (didn't require pushing any buttons) and I used to practice in the pool breathing and and out of it. It worked really well, and I too wondered why they didn't teach it (I was a relatively new diver at the time when I had the idea). My wife has always thought I was crazy for having the idea, glad to hear I am not alone!
How to never run out of air? Step 1 - Monitor your air and go to the surface when it reaches a predetermined threshold The End Another solid Monday with Woody & Gus! Coffee & Dive Talk!
Except of course as long as the gear dont break, i.e. yoke first stage blows up or the gauge itself is broken. Ive been in the water for both of those scenarios and none of them were solved or could have been avoided by looking at gauges. Both were resolved safely sharing air though.
GUS & WOODY! Have only done 2 resort dives w/quick mini lessons. I'm not a good candidate for pursuing because Im too anxious underwater . BUT I LOVE ❤to watch dives as it fascinates me. I found your channel and have been binge watching for about 2 weeks. IT'S AWESOME. Thank you for explaining to non-divers too. The vibe is so positive and you are a great team. I don't usually comment but thought you should know how much us inexperienced people enjoy your content displaying safety and knowledge and experience. Don't ever change a thing ✌
I took a scuba class when I was a kid and loved it and never really considered it much again until watching your videos. If I ever end up in the water with a tank I'll definitely give you give you guys credit for reinspiring my interest! Especially the cave diving videos.
Best diver channel on TH-cam. Knowledge, charisma, compassion and actual experience is all you need folks, get to work and we will be here at DiveTalk waiting for competitors lol
Generally, I personally don't care for reaction videos from content creators because I find these types of videos lazy and boring. You guys however hit the nail on the head with a perfect balance of entertainment and education. I don't even dive and I love you guys. Thanks for taking the time to put out some fantastic content. So happy to see a new vid since I already binged the others😭
Even as a new diver the first video was a total face palm and frustration to see I’ve been watching a lot of accident videos to keep that healthy fear and respect for the ocean and diving. I love the way this channel deconstructs the videos it’s incredible helpful
I personally have no desire to dive and actually have quite a phobia of deep water and sea creatures, but I genuinely enjoy watching your videos because your knowledge and rational thinking puts me at ease. Knowledge is power over fear!
Since I started watching your channel I’ve been addicted ever since. Today I’ve watched 35+ videos from your guy’s channel all day today. My wife is pissed but I can’t stop watching
The survival suits we use in the helicopter flying offshore has a built in "air lung" which you blow up like a balloon prior to exiting the helicopter if it need to ditch in water. And they tech you to use that for an extra breath or two if you end up under water.
This is exactly why I am more than happy to just keep watching all the wonderful underwater videos all you scuba divas upload. I love being in the water, I even try to swim as far as I can underwater. However, being 60ft from the surface sounds about as fun as getting hit by a train. Lol
I know you get quite a few of these comments but I found your channel today and have to let you know what you're doing is incredible and very much needed education. I have a slight fear of deep diving because I know almost nothing about diving. Your content has been super interesting and I respect the craft and the expertise you bring, even from a beginners point-of-view you're exposing us to WHY you have to do things properly and how the simplest things can become the lethal risk. The best example I can think of is if a cave is ranked level 100 and you're rank 99. Yeah you're a rank 99 which is insane, but it's not 100 and therefore without the proper training your high experience isn't good enough. Amazing work, please keep it up! 🔥
So glad I came across this channel. With that said, these bad divers really freaked me out. Seriously I am just shocked at how careless they are.....You folks are saving lives and those who do not learn from your wisdom deserve to be in Davy Jones' locker.
I have no diving experience but really enjoy all your comments. I’m fascinated! I find some aspects of diving very alluring but also I’m learning you have to be well trained and never complacent. I have started to research on reputable diving instructors in the UK. 👍
A very old friend of mine owns a dive shop in shop. Training quality and safety is second to none imo. It's really important to train properly. This video demonstrates some extremely bad diving that should never happen. Not just just out of air, but touching wild life, getting detached from your buddy, lack of signals/understanding, unnecessary rapid ascents if they just grabbed their buddies octopus, fins that slip off! Really bad. Stoney Cove in Leicestershire is a great place to do open water dives as part of your training. I'd recommend going straight to the advanced open water course after open water because it will increase your confidence and ability to manage dives properly with a buddy and no instructor.
@@stephenwhiddett I’m in Nottingham so that’s not to far 👍just been to Egypt would have been amazing to dive there but snorkelling had to do 😂 was pretty fab tho
@@teresakelleher7507 I expect there are plenty of good PADI or SSI dive centres in your area and very likely they do their open water dives at Stoney Cove.
When I was on the swim team, we were vertical kicking with chains strapped to our waist. My chain slipped and got caught on my ankle. I was pulled to the bottom of a 12 foot pool. I couldn’t take a deep breath before I was dragged to the bottom. Before I knew it, I was at the bottom. My lungs burning. I pulled the chain off my foot and picked it up.(25 lb chain) At this point, I was begging for air. Finally, I pushed off the bottom and rocketed to the surface. Once my head surfaced, I gasped. My swim coach said, “where the hell were you?!” I was breathing rapidly and said, “at the BOTTOM OF THE POOL!!” It was the SCARIEST MOMENT IN MY LIFE!
@S M I think they had to surface with the chain attached because it was secured around their waist. I assume their foot got caught in one of the chain loops or something
I hate when people insist to stay underwater counting their little air and starting to panic instead of just start ascending with or without you buddy ,... is amazing to see people run out of air like running out of gas in a freeway and the gauges are telling you are running on empty, very irresponsible !.... on the second scenario ,me as a experienced diver going with a newbie with on and off 60 dives ( I can trust a new diver at 100 dives at least) , I take the responsibility to check his air gauges few times during the dive to make sure where he is compare to mine because I know he will run out of air sooner , so we can safely start going back... lack of initial communication ends up in no communication underwater! I want to have a fun dive and share a good experience too !... taking air of the bcd for a new diver in a state of panic is not a realistic skill because in their panicking mind all they want is to surface to gulp air and too many already "procedures" that they won`t remember at all , is just a "I am out of here " scared out his mind or thinking of death comes in while a skilled diver with plenty dive experience can stay calm and think and right away start looking in his thoughts for his last resort "what to do" as long as he don`t panic ...but first of all why are you running out of air and still under the water line , that is your first priority if you are going to be a reliable diver , safety first ! those run out of air skills are just in case shit but you should never get to that point to begin with... I even had stayed 10/15ft above my group when drift diving just to safe air because I knew I had a low fill from the boat once the tank cool out and so I can stay with the group and keep a visual on them but ready to bail safely on my own if I had to , no reason for me to just stay with them till the last breath ....and we seen this before when 1 bad diver ruins a whole trip for everyone either the whole day or a whole multiple days trip and do you ever get a refund? no.
I was diver guiding in the Red Sea and I only had one tank and the client had two. Eventually, I was running out of air and signalled him and he basically ignored me. I hadn't run out but I needed to surface so I signalled again. His attitude was clearly that it was his dive and he had air. I was only 20 years old and so incredibly I stayed with him as it was my job to keep him safe. Then I started actually running out of air and told him and he didn't care are clearly wasn't going to help. I was at 40 metres and managed to surface on my own. When it hit me that this a-hole had not cared about my life I was honestly going to go for him. I grow up in Scotland and so we don't put up with stuff like that. Not sure why I related this story but after that I unlearned the rule that you look after each other. As in life, most people are selfish and you are responsible for your own safety down there.
@@lavernelesznik6750 - I worked in Egypt in a place called Sharm El Naga in 1990. Back then it was a total unspoiled reef and all there was in the area was a dive centre and cafe. No other structures for miles as the area was still mined from the war with Israel. They put out thousand of mines in days and didn't keep a record of where they were and so entire stretches of the coast were mined back then. Anyway, divers came and stayed in their own tents or in ex-Egyptian military tents to dive the unspoiled reef. There were no dive boats and you had to swim out to the reef and so it was pristine. I've dived all over the world and no reef was as alive and diverse. Looking online it is now built up and they seem to have dredged out an inland salt water swimming area. I went back to Egypt in 2010 and dived a popular reef near Hurghada and there were three twin diesel engine dive boats and the reef was 5% of what the reefs were back in 1990. I am aware it is sports divers like myself that are partly responsible but also the pollution directly into the ocean and without sports divers they would now have cared at all about polluting the ocean. So my advice would be find a more out-of-the-way place to dive in Israel. No the popular spots as they are over-dived and usually damaged. But you can research online. However, everyone was raving about the dive spot in Hurghada as they'd now dived the Red Sea so to them it seemed amazing. The Red Sea is so much better than places like the Florida Keys for example. There is no comparison. Whoops waffled again.
A few years ago, we still practiced deep emergency ascends in France. At a depth of 40 meters (yes, meters and not feet). With an empty BCD. That was a requisite for an advanced certification. They stopped doing that because of a few accidents and the fact that only a few of the candidates could do it: the ones that were both very fit and cool headed.
That, and it also can contribute to mild DCS even if you do it right lol. Going from 40m straight to the surface is never a good idea haha, so it’s probably best to just learn the theory on that one and only do it if it’s truly an emergency
Everyone talking about breathing from a wing and nobody talking about how to plan gas properly... How much gas would it take for two divers to reach the surface safely on a gas share from your deepest planned depth? This is an easy calculation.. here's an example. Assume a SAC of .75 for each diver. Planned depth of 100' and both have a single AL80. C=Consumption (.75×2=1.5) A=half of planned depth in ATA (in this case that's 2.5) T=time it takes for two divers to surface from deepest planned depth at a rate of 10' per min plus 1 min for resolving any issues (in this case 11 min) Now multiply C×A×T=? That's your minimum gas reserve in cubic feet. In this case the answer is 41 cubic feet. Convert that to PSI and that's 1700psi. You should be leaving the bottom, headed for shallower depths by 1700psi. As you go shallow your minimum gas reserve changes so you can still piddle around for while at shallower depths until you hit the new minimum reserve pressure then guess what... you go shallower.This is pretty conservative but it beats breathing from a wing and probably dying. Of course none of this matters if you don't check your SPG once in a while 🤦 Boom. Crash course in min gas calculations.
Agreed! Obviously breathing from a wing as an absolute last resort is better than drowning… but… you could accidentally suck in water, so it’s necessary to always check your air so you’re never be in that situation
You know diving and the ocean has always scared me to a degree, mostly due to my huge fear of drowning. But the more I watch you guy's videos and the more I really learn about the precautions & carefully written rules of this sport, I'm becoming more open and comfortable with the idea of trying it out the right way. I want to someday aquire a buddy who will get the recreational scuba certification with me.
I've always thought of it like flying a plane: it's very safe if you know what you're doing, even in an emergency, if you follow the procedures you'll be fine. But if you tried to fly a plane with no training whatsoever, it's crazy dangerous.
I think its a clever idea breathing out of the bcd during an out of air situation. Who cares if the inside of your bdc may not be the cleanest thing underwater. Your just worried about survival at that point so ditching some or all your weights bringing you up towards the surface while taking one huge breathe and exhaling slowly to the surface sounds like a good idea. Good one guys!
Someone has left a comment letting people know that typically a bcd and especially the hose has water inside it which would come out before any air. You'd be getting your lungs filled with water before the air came
I almost ran out of air twice, while diving in a group. On the first occasion I actually got quite seasick on the ride to the spot (sitting in front of the boat). I was already nervous when entering the water - and now know I should not have. Being so stressed out, caused me to use up far more air than usual. Yet, my dive partner was actually the dive master of that group. A really awesome guy. Very calm and professional. When I indicated that I am running low on air (I that time I was like 20% above the reserve), he understood and reorganised the dive so that he could go ahead with me (we were already on our way back), brought me to our anchor line and had me go ascend. I arrived on top at 40 bar (starting with 200 bar). We had some talk about it afterwards anway... The second instance was actually my own stupidity. I was donating blood the week before the dive and even thought about, wait a second is this not dangerous me not being able to take up all the oxygen from the air stream due to having less red blood cells. I then figure - stupidly - it is not a problem, because I just have to breath more frequently. Not having in mind that I of course was using a bottle., not a rebreather and thus I would of course let out the unused air and would run through my supply early. Similar situation, on our way back I began running out of air, was guided back (was a different dive master) and on top I was at 20 bar, so 60% through the reserve. The fact that I was becoming more nervous and nervous, was not helping either. Both instances were not pretty, luckily I was with professionals who kept their calm, prevented me from panicking and got me to the surface just fine. In any case, both instances taught me to be close to your buddy, keep an eye on them. Situations can become uncomfortable quickly, thus communicate early if you perceive a problem. Better safe than sorry. And don't dive after having donated blood. That is stupid. :D
An average person should be able to hold breath for 1 min. That’s why controlled ascend from 18 m shouldn’t be a big problem. I think breathing from BCD is not practical, because: - If you are weighted correctly, you don’t have too much air in the BCD, - In the BCD hose you have a mixture of water and air, - BCD hose must be the highest point to get air, not the water, which means you must be almost vertical in the water column, which is not good for controlled ascend, - Probably switching from the regulator to BCD will take too much precious time, which can be used for controlled ascend and can be problematic for inexperienced/panicked divers, - What if you try to breath from BCD and suck water/realize that there is not enough air? You will probably panic. - Check pressure regularly, calculate minimum gas pressure for dive, and such an emergency situation will never happen.
The average person can usually only last 15-30 seconds. The average diver maybe longer than that but there's so many different factors at play in a breath"hold" time
I learn something new every time I watch these videos but also helps to consolidate my learning from recently doing my OW. You guys explain everything in such simple terms.
I've thought about breathing from my BCD aswell! Newly certified SCUBA diver here, actually got certified yesterday in Key Largo. Been watching your videos for a while! I always thought if I ran out of air and had 1 breath in my lungs, I wouldn't blow bubbles outwards, rather blow it slowly into my BCD as bubbles to prevent lung overexpansion. Then I'd commit to an emergency ascent (30-60ft/min), if worse comes to worse, I'd take a breath out of the BCD. Even if the BCD was manually overinflated (which it probably wasn't), that air still contains enough oxygen to sustain life (just like mouth to mouth works in CPR). Would love some comments on this to see if there is any problems with my logic. Also, I'm a student in Gainesville, would love to dive with you guys if that's ever an option!!
When you are diving, you should already be neutrally buoyant. As you ascend, the air inflates and you become positively buoyant. At some point during the ascent you will need to vent air from the BCD to maintain a safe ascent rate (noting that a fast ascent rate is better than outright drowning, so this may be discretionary). Adding a lung-full immediately to your BCD doesn't seem ideal given the above. Keeping your reg in your mouth prevents aspirating water and gives you a chance for a second breath as pressures change. Generally speaking, divers should be far from experts at running out of air. Chances are that the lizard brain (limbic system) will kick in and override anything that isn't already habit. I suppose what I'm suggesting is that if you plan on using a new/different technique, practice it first and practice it a lot.
@@bretfair1201 that is true. Fair assessment Bret. In reality, I'm constantly looking at my SPG and doubt this situation would ever truly arise, especially using the rule of thirds. But manually adding air to the bc in this situation, would mean it would expand as you surface, probably meaning you'd have to remove it from the bc anyway on ascent, as you stated. I assume it depends on how much air previously was in the bc ofc. And yeah, proper practice of the technique will really cement it in case of a time of panic.
@@xIntoxicat Yup, the air in your lungs and BCD combined (and any other air compartments) will have you neutrally buoyant during the dive. As you make an ascent, emergent or otherwise, you'll need to let some of that air out if you plan to ascend safely. As you know from practice/training, this is usually exhaling as well as venting from your buoyancy device(s). Orally inflating your BCD immediately while ascending would have you reach positively buoyant more quickly than a slow exhale into the water. Also it would introduce some level of CO2 into the system earlier than needed. I suspect the best use of the BCD-for-breathing concept would be during a safe ascent, after you've run out of lung space. Keep in mind that if the air from your BCD is going into your lungs, it also isn't slowing you from becoming more positive as you ascend. Stay safe out there and enjoy your time underwater!
@@xIntoxicat Remember that the gas in your BCD expands as you ascend which increases the volume which makes you ascend faster. You don't want a run away ascent because that leads to the Bends. Thinking you can manage orally inflating and breathing from a BCD in an emergency is mad. I'm a cave diver and wouldn't even attempt that. Instead keep blowing small bubbles and ascend at the CESA speed. The air in your lungs will expand too as you ascend and it will feel like you can keep breathing out! Of course it won't feel great since your CO2 level rises too but that's a breath reflex you can suppress. Free divers do that all the time. There's a lot of O2 left in there and you can last a lot longer than one breath.
I’ve tested BCD breathing, on land and in a pool. I was able to remain on it on land for 2mins comfortably (slower RR). And under water (1.5m) was happy for a minute easily.
I always enjoy these vids where these two experts review the "What NOT to do" reactions, bc I helps to teach people, even inexperienced novices, like myself, the correct way to prevent these dangerous situations from occurring & the procedure(s) involved if &/or when it does, in order top help save lives. That said, for me, personally, I'll NEVER go deep sea diving, but I still enjoy watching these, none-the-less.
I am afraid of diving. I'm never going to dive because I'd be too much afraid. Yet I'm binging on these videos non-stop, it's like watching a horror movie to me (but an informative one, so that's a good thing!)
Same for me. These videos are so addicting. And i love the ocean, fully embracing the pisces in me, but im too scared of not being able to just breathe and having anxiety but love watching Gus and Woody and learning so much.
These videos cover what can go wrong in diving and should be taken very seriously. However I can tell you that diving is incredible and a whole lot of fun. I'd urge you to try it even if you just do a discovery dive and go down 12m. Its actually very relaxing once you know what you are doing and don't dive beyond your comfort zone. You don't have to go 50m deep or do crazy cave dives to experience the best that diving has to offer. Many reefs and sealife are just 15-20m down and when done with a good divemaster you will always feel in safe hands.
I learned much from you guys I honestly thought diving wasn't that difficult but now I know it's extremely difficult if not well informed or taught even at shallow depths. I'm glad I saw your channel or else I would have done this blind in the future I'll probably not do it at all lol
I don’t dive in any way but I love to learn, and watching your guys videos adds to my knowledge when I watch your videos. I just wanted to say you guys do a great job of entertaining while teaching the proper methods at the same time. 👍🏻
I have over 1,500 dives under my belt.....Never ran out of air.....Not even close.....Always be on the boat with 600+ lbs....PAY ATTENTION TO YOUR PRESSURE GAUGE......PAY ATTENTION !!!!.......North East Diver....Long Island
I absolutely love the channel guys! Got really into scary cave diving stories and eventually ran across you two. Absolutely a fan and can't stop binging! Keep it up!
Re: breathing out of your BCD; I believe I read when I bought my BCD a warning ⚠️ that the air once entered into your BCD contains carbon monoxide, which if breathed can make you pass out. Has anyone else looked into this?
The same air that your tank is putting in your bcd is the same air you're breathing. If you have dangerous level of CO in your BCD you're already screwed. Besides that, not breathing at all or aspirating water will 100% make you dead. So even if there is a chance to pass out... I'd take it.
Definitely try out the breathing from the BC I think it’s totally possible. Haven’t tried it myself though. I’m going on a dive in a couple of days so if I try it first I’ll let you know.
@@nitroxdiver461 I'm not sure how much the infection risk would be (i would think pretty low, not a lot of moisture or food sources in their for bacteria to proliferate). But if you need another breathe for a CESA I'd try that since running out of air would kill you immediately, the infection would take several days.
My friend (not my dive buddy on this dive) ran out of air at about 130ft. He was using an old J valve tank that had a worn out spring that was used to create a reserve amount of air in the tank. You are supposed to trip the reserve so you get the full tank but my friend forgot and quickly ran out of air. He wasn't my buddy, but when I realized he was having a problem, I got close to him so he could reach my safe 2nd. We made a nice, controlled ascent and my friend was very grateful I kept my shit together and facilitated the ascent. Diving is no joke, you really have to be prepared for anything to happen and to fix the problem at depth and to not panic.
I don’t know where was the second dive but every time your buddy touching me i’m asking if all is ok regardless situation and depth. Better be safe than sorry!
Theres only 3 possible options if Im grabbed by someone under water. My buddy saw a shark or something else I need to meet, some asshat is harrassing me or theres an emergency. All three warrant ALMOST the same ammount of attention. Obviously saying hello to the shark is the more important :p
Woody, that looks like a comfy chair. If I ran out of air at 60 feet and I was not close to another diver I would slowly surface while keeping my airway open.
I ran out of air at 60 feet due to the spring for the reserve breaking and winding into itself. Being an engineer and understanding physics I knew I could make it to the surface. I was trained to blow a small bubble and follow it up. To exhale slowly as the air in my lungs will expand.
Wow i keep taking deep breaths while watching this. Please be careful diving! So happy that you two are safe and have fun as well as respect nature. Yall are awesome.
I love you Woody & Gus I've learned so much from just watching you on your channel, Thank you so much for educating us , it truly is appreciated. You guys explain everything which is fantastic. I never thought any diving with breathing apparatus wether on a re-breather or not would be so phenomenally technical . I've never done any of diving like what you guys do however after watching you both for quite sometime I really want to learn to scuba dive & so much more . Thanks Woody & Gus for these amazing educational videos. With Love & Light from Niki here in the UK 🇬🇧 ✨️ 😊💙💜 xx
My 7 year old nephew is very interested in diving and how people can breathe underwater. I had my sister subscribe a minute ago and can't wait to hear what he thinks. Every young future scuba diver needs Dive Talk :) Education about diving safety SAVES LIVES. You guys rock :)
I am always super paranoid about my air levels as I am quite a deep breather and tend to run down a tank quicker than most. My gauges are always a quick glance away and are checked constantly. As others have noted, there should be no reason to run out unless you have a failure of some kind. My fiancé had this happen on a shore dive from a resort in Turkey. The guide took us down to about 20m. Shes not as fastidious about checking her gauges as I am but while we were at depth she checked her gauge and she was basically out. Luckily the guide had a full spare tank, so she completed the dive on his spare, although I had enough left in my tank that we could have easily shared mine to do a direct ascent with safety stop as opposed to the more leisurely swim around the reef we did to complete the dive as planned. That said I still think we should have ended the dive and headed back immediately, but the guide insisted it was fine. I figured a separate full tank and reg is better than risking sharing a tank, though, so I let it go. I think the 1st stage on her reg had a small leak we didnt spot initially because checking the videos afterwards there were tell-tale bubbles. You live and learn.
The buddy of the second video has no excuses for his behavior, even if we assume that the guy who run of of air was giving him the worst out of air signal possible. If someone grabs you and makes signals that you don't understand you should ask if they are fine with an OK, if you don't get a clean OK as a reply you should stop and figure out the problem.
For the rest great video guys, keep on going.
Exactly, but also if I ran out im grabbing my buddy and not letting ago, I'm grabbing my buddy TIGHT and not letting go until they understand the situation at hand, and will absolutely rip the regulator from them, after they don't understand
He wouldn't be my friend after that for sure.
@@vincentveilleux1035 Fr same
Agreed. He should have been patient and clarified.
@@vincentveilleux1035 This is why you shouldn't go diving with "friends" that secretly hate you:)
Been diving since 1984, over 1000 hrs logged. Ran out of air once when I was fairly new, and did take a rip off my bcd, it did work and it definitely saved my life in my opinion. I learned it as an emergency last resort skill from my instructor. Can't have thanked him enough. When I've shared that story before, at times its been received with disbelief, so glad you guys brought it up, it can save a life. Love the channel and all you guys do. Thanks for the time and effort you put into each of your vids.
Take a rip LOL
IM tAKIN RIP AS I WATCH THIS VIDEO AT 4"20 AM
@@tristantzara9496 🤪💨
Exactly...I have practiced this skill in a pool. As you ascend more and more air becomes available in the BCD and you reduce BCD buoyancy by breathing off of it instead of venting it out to slow your ascent.
I ran out of air once at 30 meters, even i showed the dive master i was running out of air.He absolutely needed to start swimming against the current. And then a sea lion ripped the band on my classes haha. I was able to stay calm and everything went fine and it was kinda worth it, amazing marine life on kickers island Galapagos
There is no good excuse for running out of air on a dive. Checking your gauge is so simple, there is zero reason not to do it or to forget. I’m the First Officer on a dive boat in Los Angeles, we have a compressor onboard and fill tanks between dives so the crew sees what pressure your tank is at after your dive. We have a rule on board that if you come back with less than 500 psi myself or the captain is going to have a very serious conversation with you about whether or not you’re going to dive again that day. We will talk to you about what happened why you came up with less than 500 etc. depending on the circumstances we may or may not not let you get back in the water that day. If you come back with less than 200 psi you’re done diving for the day, no questions asked, end of story. If you run out of air on a dive you have to show proof of remediation training before you can come back out on the boat. The liability is just too much for us to not take these measures and the captain and I don’t want to put our crew through the stress, and emotional/psychological trauma of one of our divers dying if we can avoid it.
Thank you for taking the safety of your crew and the other Divers so seriously. I wouldn't want to dive with anyone who didn't act as you just outlined. Sadly I've heard first hand stories of these mistakes being laughed off because no one happened to be hurt or died.
@@ChrisShaferKTM How? 500psi upon return sounds decent and responsible
Captain Miles layin' it thick!
Could a gauge ever fail? Giving you a false reading, making you think you have air when you don't? I don't dive, just curious.
LOL I come up with 300 every dive on purpose. I know it damages your tanks but every pound between 300-500 is for me to snorkel around at 15 feet.
The worst one is the 1,100 dive buddy. If someone cares THAT little about you being clearly in distress, you should NEVER dive with that person again. EVER.
The turtle was better at managing his oxygen levels.
The turtle been on the planet for over 10 million years. He has been diving since then. Of course he manages his oxygen better. 🙄
@@null.ru.1337 haha I know right
@@null.ru.1337 It was a joke. You don't need to be a party pooper
@@iammcwaffles5514 only the facts maam
Crazy that an animal that evolved in water is better at it than us. Who would've thought.
I am a non-diver from Germany and I am always amazed by your videos, explanations and thoughts. In addition, you two are an absolute dream team of sympathy ❤️👍🏻❤️ and competence! Please keep going 👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
The “I’m looking at a fish” comment had me in tears. The two of you are my favs ever
Wow, if you're claustrophobic and can watch this I'm impressed! I'm only mildly claustrophobic but can usually talk/think my way out of it, but I had a really hard time watching this video!
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“Bad touching the turtle” spoken like a disappointed father Haha, cheers. Never knew anything about diving but your guys’ knowledge and insight is interesting to listen to and watch !
Not a diver, just curious. Is it frowned upon to touch animals?
@@brandonboss2996 when marine life is touched, the bacterias propagate to corals and after a while, ends up killing it. therefore makes the fish more vulnerable to contamination. fish loses its natural ability to fight against infections, weakens and dies.
Kinda like how when Chris Columbus first encountered natives and the Spanish started making love with the natives and not only did the Spanish give the natives diseases, but syphilis actually came from those natives. It goes both ways.
@@brandonboss2996 the simple answer is yes. Just look and admire
@@elliottblackwell1747 People are more likely to abide by a rule if they understand why it is important. And in these comment sections, many people see the interactions. Not just the OP. Just saying...
Imagine almost dying because you want to look at a turtle 🤣
Sometime the stupid gotta go
@@bryantprak7129 🤣🤣🤣
Yeah that’s me. I’ll die for the turtles 🤷🏽♀️
This is why I'd never dive.
Not funny
My wife got me into diving when we met as she had been doing it for a few years already. She told me about running out of air before we met and had used her bcd to get to the surface. While I was doing my open water course I brought this up during the emergency accent part of the training, and the instructor said it wasnt recommended for various reason such as water inhalation but agreed that it was better than drowning. Years later my dive buddy and I were doing a strenuous ocean dive around a small island. At the time I was a cyclist and gym junkie, and also had been free diving and spearfishing for a long time, so I was very fit and capable in the water, and also very conservative on air. My buddy on the other hand though young and relatively fit, had a late night out drinking and was still slightly hung over. We were down at 25m when he indicated his dire air situation, and it took me by surprise how fast he had consumed his air because he was usually pretty good. I cant remember how much air I had left but it was a significant amount so we were able to buddy breath and ascend at a normal speed then return to shore no problems. I only had two incidents where I was at danger of drowning. First one was while I was decending at the start of a dive, at around 5m down the oring on my first stage went bang, so I had to make an emergency accent. It wasnt a big deal for me, but had me replacing those things more often after that. The second one was from exhaustion and lack of clear thinking. Id just finished my 3rd boat dive of the day, and while I was at the back of the boat on the ladder taking off my gear I dropped my dive knife, so I immediately put my face under water and watched it fall to the bottom 12m down. Without thinking, I handed over my bcd and tank, took a big breath and finned to the bottom and retrieved my knife. While finning back up I noticed I wasnt making my usual progress when I suddenly had a sickening realization. I felt my waste, and sure enough I was still wearing my weight belt. Instead of being rational and dropping it, I decided to power back up while wearing it, but I was really pushing it and by the time I was in the last meter of water I had unclipped the belt and was hanging onto the belt while desperately trying to reach the ladder. I made it, reclipped my belt and pretended it was nothing, but afterwards realised Id only done it so I didnt look foolish in front of the rest of the divers. A lesson learnt that could have cost me my life.
Thanks for telling everyone about these experiences man. I feel like I've just gained additional dive experience on "what to do & what not to do" after reading that. Honestly, I really appreciate you taking the time writing all that. Stay safe out there man.
Very interesting read 👍
You sound like a moron tbh.
First thing after surfacing: weight belt off.
@@Robmeisterflex watch my panic attack video. Never panic underwater. Be prepared for everything. Always check your gauge and don’t over exhaust yourself. Almost died in the Bahamas few years ago. I learned from my mistakes. I don’t want you to go through them.
No air? Stab myself in the heart right? I've been paying attention in class! 🤣
😂
Is that a reference?
@@badcornflakes6374 yeah some guy in a previous vid, who ran put of air, apparently stabbed himself through the heart to avoid drowning
@@_pokieswish I could find that one, been looking but no luck finding it.
😂😂
I could never see myself being so comfortable diving that I wouldn't check my air every 1-3 minutes..
That would be like driving and never looking in the mirrors
Or driving and not looking straight ahead
Oh crap, you are right. My car does have mirrors.
14:34 That gasp of air was probably the sweetest that guy had ever experienced.
Dude, I freedive 5-6 meters when im on vacation, If im pushing my limit down there trying to stay as long as possible, after getting to the surface in 5 seconds that air is GODLY.
I can't even swin 😬, but I'm taking swimming lessons because of you sirs.
Your videos are very informative and entertaining, most of all, they make me wanna go dive right away.
Had that been me, I would never dive with that person ever again regardless of who they are in relation to me.
I ran out of air once. I was a dive master at the time, doing a drift dive with another dive master. My mistake: I knowingly went below 500 psi because I was at the safety stop just drifting along and I felt it was safe to go to 300. We got caught in a downwelling current that took up down to 80 feet in about 30 seconds. Because the water was taking us down, there was no feeling of sinking, other than having to clear my ears. We both started to kick up hard and I ran out of air. I grabbed my buddy's bcd and signaled out of air. He have me his secondary reg and we ascended safely. If that downwelling was just a bit stronger, we both would have likely drowned. Lesson learned: don't play with the 500 psi reserve and realize that high current dives carry special risks.
I always love how woody’s eyes close when he is laying that knowledge
There used to be a lady at my old church who closed her eyes like that when she talked about God. It’s funny that he does the same when talking about his passion.
I love it when people lecture or lay knowledge like that. I always took it as the equivalent to a significant other calling you by your name instead of “baby” or “babe” lol. May sound weird but IMO It symbolizes the seriousness and severity of the concern.
Ha ha me too!
Man is asking his family tree for the information while there closed 😂
Learned some valuable lessons this summer when I ran out of air due to an equipment malfunction. Diving on an aluminium tank which had been over-filled to around 4000psi. This caused the gauge to stick at some point. Noticed the reg effort increasing but gauge still showed ~1100. Fortunately managed to alert the dive leader just as my air ran out and could use his alternate while we swam back to the line and safely ascend - luckily we were pretty much at the end of the dive and in less than 30ft by the time it happened. Not an experience I’d like to go through again!
Not trying to be an ass, but is that an equipment malfunction? It seems that "using equipment the wrong way" is more accurate.
@@wouterbmx072 it was not his fault tho
@@jansvasta2146 true
If you ever have an SPG showing more pressure than expected of a full tank most likely the SPG is faulty, if a tanks maxpressure is reached then there is a ceramic burst valve that ruptures, to releave pressure for example in case of a fire. Close the air and release all pressure and check if the pressure gage needle goes down to 0, most likely it will not, faulty spg, I teach this to all my students.
@@davey.alvarez"The busrt disc for a 3180 + rated tank is 5250 psi (3180+318=3498x1.5 hydro=5247 psi)."
That second one wasn't a communication error....buddy literally didn't care.
That was malicious at best. Guy must of pissed him off before the dive..
And that's why "go xxxxx with a buddy" isn't always the best advice. I don't dive, but have hiked alone for almost 20 years because hiking with people almost got me killed.
@@Loralanthalasreminds me of people that think being on the phone alone at night especially females … why do they think they are safe now?
@charlesdobronxcharlesdobro4660 It doesn't make us feel safe. It's one more thing that on top of other things to hopefully make the perp think twice if there's someone we could yell what he looks like or what's happening. It doesn't make us safe but we have to leave our house during the night sometimes so we do a bunch of things to try to make it safer. I always pretended to be on the phon3 so I could focus on my surroundings as no matter what I do, Perps are going to perp. Let's keep the focus on them.
I don't see it at all, that was defintely communication failure, the description says that the guy just pointed at himself, and the sidemount guy was just confused and kept asking him what? And the sidemount guy didn't ignore him and keep swimming he looked away and then looked back and he didn't see where the diver went.
I’m terrified of the ocean! I don’t think Scuba diving is something I would consider but I love watching your scuba reviews from the comfort and safety of my oxygen filled house!
If your house is filled with oxygen it's far more dangerous than scuba diving!
@@DA-fn4ss bruh.. 1 year late. Upgrade browsers. No one uses internet explorer anymore!
Woody starting his reaction with ‘let’s play the video first’ shows you guys are really getting good at these videos! 😄 Great informative content as always!
I do want them to stop and react- if you just want the video, watch it on your own 🤷♀️
Yeah that’s fine with me but Woody has the uncanny ability to predict and explain an entire video before even watching it 😂
@@annem1816 He didn't say one word that he doesn't want them to talk or react! He made them a compliment and you immediately start getting offensive.
This Kind of woman. Jesus!
@@annem1816 Do you really want them to "stop and react" ? I am so glad you cleared that up! Without you nobody would have had any idea, that Gus and Woody really "stop and react" on a Dive themed react Channel with the video title "Divers react..."
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I have practiced taking breaths from my wing on dives and tech workshops. It is an option for sure, but the breath is a wet breath. You need good airway control to not inhale water when taking a breath from your inflator hose. If a diver is very proficient and under control, AND needs the extra air, it is definitely an option. However, the caliber or diver that can successfully execute a breath from their BCD is probably not the same diver that is running out of air and needing to make an emergency ascent. Vice versa, the diver who is running out of air and making emergency ascents is probably not the diver to successfully take a controlled breath from a BCD during an emergency situation. I mention the possibility to my students in passing just as a little extra knowledge for them, but obviously don't demonstrate or add any skills to the standards set forth for any particular course.
Another great learning experience. Out of Air should only really happen when you have a catastrophic incident, like a free flowing reg, or a ruptured hose and you forgot the duct tape and purple glue. The Instructors I DM with insist that students know their PSI so that they rarely need to look to tell us. If you run out of air like these guys that means you weren't monitoring.....and the lesson here is really that there is no such think as looking at your SPG (or AI) too much.
Did you ever have a free flowing reg? Thats a medium pressure hose, it takes a while till your tank is empty. Same for a ruptured hose.
Out of air should never really happen.
That systems are designed to not have out of air incidents.
If you're out of air, soemthing has gone horrible wrong.
Actually i'm not even sure if that first guy is out of air, if he would have stayed calm he could have propably done a regular ascent, maybe would have only need to skip the saftey stop. It's very weired that he should end up with an empty tank (below 20 bar) while the others are still down there.
And as soon as you reach 5m, you can breath almost forever out of a tank, 10 bars bring you far on 5m. So I'm not really convinced about that first guy and my assement is different.
In this case - let's assume he's really low on air, lets say 10 bar.
Dont panic.
Signal low on air.
Start slowly to ascend, not faster than your bubbles. He's going way to fast.
Exhale
Deflate
Before the surface, make bubbles
Check where you go up.
Inflate (oraly) drop weights
He propably had enough air for another 5 mins. under water, especially when he stops kicking against the current.
@@saschaganser Oh yeah, I know. I am Canadian and being very diplomatic here - even my "catastrophic" incident still gives you plenty of time. Suddenly looking down and noticing a 0 on your SPG or dive computer is something that should never ever happen.
I think that after some time certain divers have the tendency to become complacent because they have "soo much experience'' My dive instructor always reminded us that we should never forget our basic confined water skills. And that we should strive to build on the foundation with good practice and repetition. Some dive I see buddies just jump into the water without even chaking each other and that's unfortunate. If it is caused by recklessness, or lack or proper procedure then I really wouldn't consider it a dive "Accident"...more of a dive "incident"
If you are following the rule of thirds you would know that you're low on air long before you ever get close to running out completely. A rational person knowing they are getting low on air would be monitoring that much more frequently...particularly if they're still a ways away from the exit point.
@@Maritime007 Rule of 3rds, rule of halves, or even all useable, it seems like there was no monitoring at all, which is the problem.
That smile on his daughter's face, it's what life's about
As a cold water drysuit diver when diving a single cylinder system I typically don't have enough gas in my wing to take a breath. Also often the inflator and hose holds a bit of water. (lowest point of the system). Often when deflating a BCD it will first pushes whatever water in the hose and inflator out first and then gas. The person would need extremally good airway control. If someone is panicked and just looking for that one last breath there is a good chance that they are going to get a lung of water and now at a higher risk of drowning.
if you waitied till you saw bubbles could you get your mouth around it in time? ive snorkeled a few times so i dont know.
There are guys in the comment section here who say it saved their life. So I guess.. it can work, if you stay relatively calm?
Also as a cold water dry-suit diver, I agree with you 100%. We empty our BCDs completely and use dry-suits for buoyancy. BUT, potentially if you were deep, like 90ft, you may have enough air in your BCD if you needed a breath at 30ft or so...
That said, how about we all practice safe procedures and never need to attempt this? Sounds good to me.
This is why you should practice this skill so when you do run out which is always a possibility due to broken equipment and not just a lack of monitoring you can remain calm. This video is great that it discusses this skill. It is so easy to do. You can practice it at a safety stop.
Yes, I would also guess that it is not a simple task to breath from BCD under stress and in that depth and failure would probably result in inhaling water which would increase the trouble significantly. Maybe experienced divers can do it, but teaching that beginners could be rather dangerous. Normally as trained diver you should be able to hold breath long enough to ascend within the limit even without extra air, otherwise you should probably not dive that deep.
As a former rock climber who studied the methods of self rescue I can appreciate finding any way to survive. Breathe from your BCD, know how to rappel using just a carabiner, and as a former law enforcement officer, stay in the fight. Don't give up. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
"Giving me the im out of air signal and I'm like dude no I'm looking at fish" had me dying. Definitely would talk before hand before going down about hand signals so buddy knows what's going on. And like you guys said you should know when you are starting to loose air when it becomes harder to breath so at that point give the signal and dead up. I also have never suba dived so this is just from watching videos from you guys and others
Dude I'm old school emergency breath-straight-off-the-bottle commercial trained diver-- SOMEBODY is getting an ass beating over this. My crew duct taped an incompetent, dangerous tender once and left him in the shop yard about 3-4 hours. He quit. Commercial is a little bit different
I wish woody said “talking to a fish”
I would think scuba has standardized hand signals that they teach during training. No idea if they do though, but you’d think so.
@@chadwells7562 @MommaDeth we absolutely do. They demonstrated the out of air signal on the video, its a flat hand 'cutting'/swiping across your neck. There should be no reason to brief signals for: ok?, ok, problem, out of air, low air, what air pressure are you at, look, you lead i'll follow. There are more standard signs than that, but they're less common and it might be good to go over any you think will be relevent (like danger, shark, hover, clean up your trim, how do we respond to 'how much pressure'), but even if you don't brief those something like this should never happen because checking if your buddy is ok, getting an answer, out of air (and low air which is a fist at the throat/solar plexus), are all super important and super standard. the first two are used every dive, and should be used frequently in every dive. And even if that was all you had I don't understand why the second video didn't go like this:
Out of air diver: out of air
buddy: what?
out of air diver: out of air
buddy: you ok?
out of air diver: problem, pressure 0, out of air
buddy (i would HOPE this is enough but if not): what?
out of air diver: either show spg to buddy, or grab buddies regulator
Like.. as a diver i'm just really confused why there was a repeated failure to communicate leading up to the ascent. And I think both divers are to blame for not figuring out what the issue was/making it super clear
@@aviananalyst2057 That makes perfect sense. These dudes were clowns. They need to be retrained or not be in the water.
Great info on what to do when running out of air! I've been out of pocket building some stuff around my place so I need to get caught up on the last few vids. Hope you guys are having a great week!
Thanks B! I've been following your building efforts but keep missing you on Livestream!
@Adam SMBs come with a whistle
The first video is the best example of why hanging something as cheap and practical as a whistle on your BCD is a good idea.
Back in the days they wouldn’t let you dive in the Red Sea whiteout a signalling mirror and a whistle. Nowadays we have SMBs and DSMBs, but those two cheap things are still good things to carry with you.
I agree, I also bring my whistle and smb and 9000 lumen lights that have strobes for emergencies and feel a lot safer, like I shouldn't ever be one of the people stranded at sea for days if the boat leaves me behind etc.
Same. I bring a whistle with me, and I also have dive scissors with hard metal, that can also double as a “tank banger” if needed
That turtle turned around like “WTF??? Why are you not checking your oxygen??”
wow im not a diver and never would have even CONSIDERED it a possibility cause im so anxious about being under water/drowning, but i recently found your channel and got ADDICTED i've been binging your videos and now i actually find myself wanting to take a course and try it, seems so peaceful and beautiful when you're not having an emergency situation lmao
I know right? I never had any interest in scuba diving before because I have anxiety issues related to breathing... but after watching all their videos I kinda want to try it!
You should bro. Scuba diving changed my life. It’s made me more intelligent, more calm, and more responsible. My small business (home improvement) has grown, and now I make over 1.2 mil a year. I love working hard now bcuz me and my wife get to plan our next dive vacation. Diving is the coolest thing we’ve ever done!
As long as you got good scuba teachers, diving may actually make you less anxious about water related incidents. I will say that I never really was much of a swimmer when I was younger but now I got my diving certs and am a lot calmer when it comes to water. you might "swim" while diving but it's so different than normal swimming. I don't know all I'm saying is it might change your life.
Youre all welcome. We need more divers to enjoy and join the blue underwater world.
Its amazing, i wish you a happy time and always air in your tanks
me too
On my first open ocean dive my buddy said, dinner before our dive, she felt it was everyone’s responsibility to take care of their selves under the water. While I get that we are ultimately responsible for ourselves but the entire premise of buddy diving is that you have a second set of eyes, ears, air, etc. I told the instructor, after our dinner, I did not want to be paired with her for my dive. I was paired with the instructor and it was a fabulous dive!
Was her name Donald cerrone?
Definitely the right decision on your part! Hers is completely the wrong attitude to have on a dive. You look out for each other, that's the point of the buddy system
I’ve realised … I’m getting obsessed with Woody and Gus’s videos. 😂 waiting for the next one. It’s so great to watch them after work and serves really well as escapism! ❤️
The next one is ridiculous. And 100% original content.
Haven’t done that in a while.
On my first dive after certification I ran out of air at 45 ft. Back then we used J valves. (1970) My J valve was triggered down because of kelp encounter. I made a free ascent without ditching weights by ascending no faster than the bubbles rising as I slowly "whistled" slowly released air. Worked like a charm. If you don't panic you can feel your lungs fill with air as you ascend and you time your ascent with the bubbles and lungs expanding. But those days were when we trained to do free ascents.
Early on, I had ran out of air, at 60ft. Current was strong but I still swam to the boat's anchor line (only ~30ft away) before ascending on the line. Got that extra breath from tank & lines, at ~30ft. Did a controlled ascent, in about a minute. Later on, in advanced class, we actually did emergency ascents from 60ft, as opposed to the beginner class, when we did them, from roughly 20 to 30ft.
Don't touch the critters, unless you have fishing license, and its game that your keeping.
Obviously you’re ignorant on how easy it can be to harm marine life. Sometimes it can be ok to touch things in controlled environments, but many animals do not enjoy being touched and the sea floor may have a microbiome that would be destroyed if you are walking all over it. When you’re out in nature unless you know what tf you’re doing, it’s best to leave things alone. It’s still absolutely beautiful to see everything up close. I went snorkeling on a boat once and had a pod of dolphins swim around me, not even 6 feet away and it was incredible. Just look don’t touch.
@@issadraco532 No, you don’t touch marine life, particularly coral reefs. My greatest privilege was scuba diving in Australia when down there backpacking. You have to be respectful of the ocean. They are not little kittens, what planet did you grow up in? And you go on and on. Just chill. I’m glad you won’t bother diving cause you are the type of person that won’t follow the rules. These guys know more than you as to what’s allowed. Sure you could obviously get away with it, but don’t cry to us when the turtle bites your fingers off! You’re probably that lady that got her hand ripped off when she climbed over the barrier to the lion cage. But it was such a cute kittie lmao!
Love these vids. My daughter casually reminded me she turns 14 this summer and can get certified. We’ve been watching these videos ever since and she’s all signed up. As excited as she is I guarantee I’m more excited and will have to prepare predive for tears lol.
I started diving with my dad in the early 1980's. My dad was an old school sheriff diver that started with his dad in the 50's. I know this is wrong now but he taught me buddy breathing kills. They had done recovery dives on multiple divers on more than one occasion with one diver having plenty of air other diver out. My dad told me a story of when he ran out of air due to a j valve not being reset after a dive in a 100 feet of water. He swam over to one of the old timers giving him the out of air sign. The old timer gave him the finger pointing up sign.
My dad taught me don't trust anyone to buddy breath. In there defense this was before the time of multiple regulators and the old timer was using a Aqua lung double hose regulator that was notorious for flooding when trying to buddy breath. Fast forward to today. Have a buddy you trust with your life that has a spare regulator but dive within "your" limits!
Sounds like who he asked for air is what they call in the books a complete asshole bet ya old man whooped his ass back on land
Breathing from the BCD was one of the reasons I used to really like my old Aqualung BCD. They had a cool fold up manual inflator hose with a valve that opened by pushing slightly against it with your mouth. It was super easy to manually inflate (didn't require pushing any buttons) and I used to practice in the pool breathing and and out of it. It worked really well, and I too wondered why they didn't teach it (I was a relatively new diver at the time when I had the idea). My wife has always thought I was crazy for having the idea, glad to hear I am not alone!
How to never run out of air?
Step 1 - Monitor your air and go to the surface when it reaches a predetermined threshold
The End
Another solid Monday with Woody & Gus! Coffee & Dive Talk!
Step 1 - keep my fat a** on land.
@@adamtudor3531 Touché - can’t drown on the land!
Except of course as long as the gear dont break, i.e. yoke first stage blows up or the gauge itself is broken. Ive been in the water for both of those scenarios and none of them were solved or could have been avoided by looking at gauges. Both were resolved safely sharing air though.
@@adamtudor3531 lol
@@HereForVideos Deep enough puddle and it could happen!🤣
GUS & WOODY! Have only done 2 resort dives w/quick mini lessons. I'm not a good candidate for pursuing because Im too anxious underwater . BUT I LOVE ❤to watch dives as it fascinates me. I found your channel and have been binge watching for about 2 weeks. IT'S AWESOME. Thank you for explaining to non-divers too. The vibe is so positive and you are a great team. I don't usually comment but thought you should know how much us inexperienced people enjoy your content displaying safety and knowledge and experience. Don't ever change a thing ✌
I took a scuba class when I was a kid and loved it and never really considered it much again until watching your videos. If I ever end up in the water with a tank I'll definitely give you give you guys credit for reinspiring my interest! Especially the cave diving videos.
Best diver channel on TH-cam. Knowledge, charisma, compassion and actual experience is all you need folks, get to work and we will be here at DiveTalk waiting for competitors lol
Generally, I personally don't care for reaction videos from content creators because I find these types of videos lazy and boring. You guys however hit the nail on the head with a perfect balance of entertainment and education. I don't even dive and I love you guys. Thanks for taking the time to put out some fantastic content. So happy to see a new vid since I already binged the others😭
Even as a new diver the first video was a total face palm and frustration to see
I’ve been watching a lot of accident videos to keep that healthy fear and respect for the ocean and diving. I love the way this channel deconstructs the videos it’s incredible helpful
You guys are at the top of my list of "People I'd like to chat with over a cup of coffee"!
I personally have no desire to dive and actually have quite a phobia of deep water and sea creatures, but I genuinely enjoy watching your videos because your knowledge and rational thinking puts me at ease. Knowledge is power over fear!
How the hell does someone diving side mount not know what out of air signal looks like?!!
Great comments.
I ran out of air during final safety stop years ago.
Now I'm obsessed with checking my gauge.
Good luck
Discovered your channel last week from a tumblr post and I've binged so many of your videos now! Thanks so much for all the great informative content.
Me too real good binging even if you know absolutely nothing about diving (me). It’s kind of scares me but equally I want to learn now 😂
Had no idea we were in Tumblr. Cool!
Since I started watching your channel I’ve been addicted ever since.
Today I’ve watched 35+ videos from your guy’s channel all day today.
My wife is pissed but I can’t stop watching
The survival suits we use in the helicopter flying offshore has a built in "air lung" which you blow up like a balloon prior to exiting the helicopter if it need to ditch in water. And they tech you to use that for an extra breath or two if you end up under water.
This is exactly why I am more than happy to just keep watching all the wonderful underwater videos all you scuba divas upload. I love being in the water, I even try to swim as far as I can underwater. However, being 60ft from the surface sounds about as fun as getting hit by a train. Lol
I know you get quite a few of these comments but I found your channel today and have to let you know what you're doing is incredible and very much needed education. I have a slight fear of deep diving because I know almost nothing about diving. Your content has been super interesting and I respect the craft and the expertise you bring, even from a beginners point-of-view you're exposing us to WHY you have to do things properly and how the simplest things can become the lethal risk. The best example I can think of is if a cave is ranked level 100 and you're rank 99. Yeah you're a rank 99 which is insane, but it's not 100 and therefore without the proper training your high experience isn't good enough. Amazing work, please keep it up! 🔥
Thank you. Appreciate the kind words and feedback.
So glad I came across this channel. With that said, these bad divers really freaked me out. Seriously I am just shocked at how careless they are.....You folks are saving lives and those who do not learn from your wisdom deserve to be in Davy Jones' locker.
I have no diving experience but really enjoy all your comments. I’m fascinated! I find some aspects of diving very alluring but also I’m learning you have to be well trained and never complacent. I have started to research on reputable diving instructors in the UK. 👍
A very old friend of mine owns a dive shop in shop. Training quality and safety is second to none imo. It's really important to train properly. This video demonstrates some extremely bad diving that should never happen. Not just just out of air, but touching wild life, getting detached from your buddy, lack of signals/understanding, unnecessary rapid ascents if they just grabbed their buddies octopus, fins that slip off! Really bad.
Stoney Cove in Leicestershire is a great place to do open water dives as part of your training. I'd recommend going straight to the advanced open water course after open water because it will increase your confidence and ability to manage dives properly with a buddy and no instructor.
@@stephenwhiddett oh thank you so much for taking the time to reply!! Also for pointing me in the right direction
@@stephenwhiddett I’m in Nottingham so that’s not to far 👍just been to Egypt would have been amazing to dive there but snorkelling had to do 😂 was pretty fab tho
@@teresakelleher7507 I expect there are plenty of good PADI or SSI dive centres in your area and very likely they do their open water dives at Stoney Cove.
Found this channel. I never realized I needed this content. Thanks guys!
When I was on the swim team, we were vertical kicking with chains strapped to our waist. My chain slipped and got caught on my ankle. I was pulled to the bottom of a 12 foot pool. I couldn’t take a deep breath before I was dragged to the bottom. Before I knew it, I was at the bottom. My lungs burning. I pulled the chain off my foot and picked it up.(25 lb chain) At this point, I was begging for air. Finally, I pushed off the bottom and rocketed to the surface. Once my head surfaced, I gasped. My swim coach said, “where the hell were you?!” I was breathing rapidly and said, “at the BOTTOM OF THE POOL!!”
It was the SCARIEST MOMENT IN MY LIFE!
Yikes
Dumb swim coach not paying attention either
Who in the cinnamon toast fuck okayed that drill?
@@mouisehay930 Right? It seems dangerous as fuck.
@S M I think they had to surface with the chain attached because it was secured around their waist. I assume their foot got caught in one of the chain loops or something
I know nothing about diving nor have I ever been interested but found this channel and now I can't stop watching.
I hate when people insist to stay underwater counting their little air and starting to panic instead of just start ascending with or without you buddy ,... is amazing to see people run out of air like running out of gas in a freeway and the gauges are telling you are running on
empty, very irresponsible !.... on the second scenario ,me as a experienced diver going with a newbie with on and off 60 dives ( I can trust a new diver at 100 dives at least) , I take the responsibility to check his air gauges few times during the dive to make sure where he is compare to mine because I know he will run out of air sooner , so we can safely start going back... lack of initial communication ends up in no communication underwater! I want to have a fun dive and share a good experience too !... taking air of the bcd for a new diver in a state of panic is not a realistic skill because in their panicking mind all they want is to surface to gulp air and too many already "procedures" that they won`t remember at all , is just a "I am out of here " scared out his mind or thinking of death comes in while a skilled diver with plenty dive experience can stay calm and think and right away start looking in his thoughts for his last resort "what to do" as long as he don`t panic ...but first of all why are you running out of air and still under the water line , that is your first priority if you are going to be a reliable diver , safety first ! those run out of air skills are just in case shit but you should never get to that point to begin with... I even had stayed 10/15ft above my group when drift diving just to safe air because I knew I had a low fill from the boat once the tank cool out and so I can stay with the group and keep a visual on them but ready to bail safely on my own if I had to , no reason for me to just stay with them till the last breath ....and we seen this before when 1 bad diver ruins a whole trip for everyone either the whole day or a whole multiple days trip and do you ever get a refund? no.
I was diver guiding in the Red Sea and I only had one tank and the client had two. Eventually, I was running out of air and signalled him and he basically ignored me. I hadn't run out but I needed to surface so I signalled again. His attitude was clearly that it was his dive and he had air. I was only 20 years old and so incredibly I stayed with him as it was my job to keep him safe. Then I started actually running out of air and told him and he didn't care are clearly wasn't going to help. I was at 40 metres and managed to surface on my own. When it hit me that this a-hole had not cared about my life I was honestly going to go for him. I grow up in Scotland and so we don't put up with stuff like that. Not sure why I related this story but after that I unlearned the rule that you look after each other. As in life, most people are selfish and you are responsible for your own safety down there.
Glasgow here you should have had a few words with him for sure the old Glasgow kiss
Land of the free, home of some scuba diving dickheads
Going to Israel in October. Any dive companies you suggest?
@@lavernelesznik6750 - I worked in Egypt in a place called Sharm El Naga in 1990. Back then it was a total unspoiled reef and all there was in the area was a dive centre and cafe. No other structures for miles as the area was still mined from the war with Israel. They put out thousand of mines in days and didn't keep a record of where they were and so entire stretches of the coast were mined back then. Anyway, divers came and stayed in their own tents or in ex-Egyptian military tents to dive the unspoiled reef. There were no dive boats and you had to swim out to the reef and so it was pristine.
I've dived all over the world and no reef was as alive and diverse. Looking online it is now built up and they seem to have dredged out an inland salt water swimming area.
I went back to Egypt in 2010 and dived a popular reef near Hurghada and there were three twin diesel engine dive boats and the reef was 5% of what the reefs were back in 1990.
I am aware it is sports divers like myself that are partly responsible but also the pollution directly into the ocean and without sports divers they would now have cared at all about polluting the ocean.
So my advice would be find a more out-of-the-way place to dive in Israel. No the popular spots as they are over-dived and usually damaged. But you can research online. However, everyone was raving about the dive spot in Hurghada as they'd now dived the Red Sea so to them it seemed amazing. The Red Sea is so much better than places like the Florida Keys for example. There is no comparison. Whoops waffled again.
A few years ago, we still practiced deep emergency ascends in France. At a depth of 40 meters (yes, meters and not feet). With an empty BCD. That was a requisite for an advanced certification.
They stopped doing that because of a few accidents and the fact that only a few of the candidates could do it: the ones that were both very fit and cool headed.
That, and it also can contribute to mild DCS even if you do it right lol. Going from 40m straight to the surface is never a good idea haha, so it’s probably best to just learn the theory on that one and only do it if it’s truly an emergency
40 metres!? 😵💫 that makes me nervous even considering.
you guys make me wanna try diving something I never thought I’d do in a million years
Everyone talking about breathing from a wing and nobody talking about how to plan gas properly...
How much gas would it take for two divers to reach the surface safely on a gas share from your deepest planned depth? This is an easy calculation.. here's an example.
Assume a SAC of .75 for each diver. Planned depth of 100' and both have a single AL80.
C=Consumption (.75×2=1.5)
A=half of planned depth in ATA (in this case that's 2.5)
T=time it takes for two divers to surface from deepest planned depth at a rate of 10' per min plus 1 min for resolving any issues (in this case 11 min)
Now multiply C×A×T=?
That's your minimum gas reserve in cubic feet.
In this case the answer is 41 cubic feet. Convert that to PSI and that's 1700psi.
You should be leaving the bottom, headed for shallower depths by 1700psi.
As you go shallow your minimum gas reserve changes so you can still piddle around for while at shallower depths until you hit the new minimum reserve pressure then guess what... you go shallower.This is pretty conservative but it beats breathing from a wing and probably dying. Of course none of this matters if you don't check your SPG once in a while 🤦
Boom. Crash course in min gas calculations.
Agreed! Obviously breathing from a wing as an absolute last resort is better than drowning… but… you could accidentally suck in water, so it’s necessary to always check your air so you’re never be in that situation
I'm not into diving but for some reason I'm really into your videos. I love them so much
You know diving and the ocean has always scared me to a degree, mostly due to my huge fear of drowning. But the more I watch you guy's videos and the more I really learn about the precautions & carefully written rules of this sport, I'm becoming more open and comfortable with the idea of trying it out the right way. I want to someday aquire a buddy who will get the recreational scuba certification with me.
I've always thought of it like flying a plane: it's very safe if you know what you're doing, even in an emergency, if you follow the procedures you'll be fine. But if you tried to fly a plane with no training whatsoever, it's crazy dangerous.
I am no way a diver and I find your channel to be absolutely entertaining! Also very informative.
I think its a clever idea breathing out of the bcd during an out of air situation. Who cares if the inside of your bdc may not be the cleanest thing underwater. Your just worried about survival at that point so ditching some or all your weights bringing you up towards the surface while taking one huge breathe and exhaling slowly to the surface sounds like a good idea. Good one guys!
Someone has left a comment letting people know that typically a bcd and especially the hose has water inside it which would come out before any air. You'd be getting your lungs filled with water before the air came
@@moysauce788 which is why you need to have practice in controlled breathing.
I almost ran out of air twice, while diving in a group. On the first occasion I actually got quite seasick on the ride to the spot (sitting in front of the boat). I was already nervous when entering the water - and now know I should not have. Being so stressed out, caused me to use up far more air than usual. Yet, my dive partner was actually the dive master of that group. A really awesome guy. Very calm and professional. When I indicated that I am running low on air (I that time I was like 20% above the reserve), he understood and reorganised the dive so that he could go ahead with me (we were already on our way back), brought me to our anchor line and had me go ascend. I arrived on top at 40 bar (starting with 200 bar). We had some talk about it afterwards anway...
The second instance was actually my own stupidity. I was donating blood the week before the dive and even thought about, wait a second is this not dangerous me not being able to take up all the oxygen from the air stream due to having less red blood cells. I then figure - stupidly - it is not a problem, because I just have to breath more frequently. Not having in mind that I of course was using a bottle., not a rebreather and thus I would of course let out the unused air and would run through my supply early. Similar situation, on our way back I began running out of air, was guided back (was a different dive master) and on top I was at 20 bar, so 60% through the reserve. The fact that I was becoming more nervous and nervous, was not helping either.
Both instances were not pretty, luckily I was with professionals who kept their calm, prevented me from panicking and got me to the surface just fine.
In any case, both instances taught me to be close to your buddy, keep an eye on them. Situations can become uncomfortable quickly, thus communicate early if you perceive a problem. Better safe than sorry. And don't dive after having donated blood. That is stupid. :D
An average person should be able to hold breath for 1 min. That’s why controlled ascend from 18 m shouldn’t be a big problem. I think breathing from BCD is not practical, because:
- If you are weighted correctly, you don’t have too much air in the BCD,
- In the BCD hose you have a mixture of water and air,
- BCD hose must be the highest point to get air, not the water, which means you must be almost vertical in the water column, which is not good for controlled ascend,
- Probably switching from the regulator to BCD will take too much precious time, which can be used for controlled ascend and can be problematic for inexperienced/panicked divers,
- What if you try to breath from BCD and suck water/realize that there is not enough air? You will probably panic.
- Check pressure regularly, calculate minimum gas pressure for dive, and such an emergency situation will never happen.
The average person can usually only last 15-30 seconds. The average diver maybe longer than that but there's so many different factors at play in a breath"hold" time
I learn something new every time I watch these videos but also helps to consolidate my learning from recently doing my OW. You guys explain everything in such simple terms.
I've thought about breathing from my BCD aswell! Newly certified SCUBA diver here, actually got certified yesterday in Key Largo. Been watching your videos for a while! I always thought if I ran out of air and had 1 breath in my lungs, I wouldn't blow bubbles outwards, rather blow it slowly into my BCD as bubbles to prevent lung overexpansion. Then I'd commit to an emergency ascent (30-60ft/min), if worse comes to worse, I'd take a breath out of the BCD. Even if the BCD was manually overinflated (which it probably wasn't), that air still contains enough oxygen to sustain life (just like mouth to mouth works in CPR). Would love some comments on this to see if there is any problems with my logic.
Also, I'm a student in Gainesville, would love to dive with you guys if that's ever an option!!
When you are diving, you should already be neutrally buoyant. As you ascend, the air inflates and you become positively buoyant. At some point during the ascent you will need to vent air from the BCD to maintain a safe ascent rate (noting that a fast ascent rate is better than outright drowning, so this may be discretionary). Adding a lung-full immediately to your BCD doesn't seem ideal given the above.
Keeping your reg in your mouth prevents aspirating water and gives you a chance for a second breath as pressures change. Generally speaking, divers should be far from experts at running out of air. Chances are that the lizard brain (limbic system) will kick in and override anything that isn't already habit. I suppose what I'm suggesting is that if you plan on using a new/different technique, practice it first and practice it a lot.
@@bretfair1201 that is true. Fair assessment Bret. In reality, I'm constantly looking at my SPG and doubt this situation would ever truly arise, especially using the rule of thirds. But manually adding air to the bc in this situation, would mean it would expand as you surface, probably meaning you'd have to remove it from the bc anyway on ascent, as you stated. I assume it depends on how much air previously was in the bc ofc. And yeah, proper practice of the technique will really cement it in case of a time of panic.
@@xIntoxicat Yup, the air in your lungs and BCD combined (and any other air compartments) will have you neutrally buoyant during the dive. As you make an ascent, emergent or otherwise, you'll need to let some of that air out if you plan to ascend safely. As you know from practice/training, this is usually exhaling as well as venting from your buoyancy device(s).
Orally inflating your BCD immediately while ascending would have you reach positively buoyant more quickly than a slow exhale into the water. Also it would introduce some level of CO2 into the system earlier than needed. I suspect the best use of the BCD-for-breathing concept would be during a safe ascent, after you've run out of lung space. Keep in mind that if the air from your BCD is going into your lungs, it also isn't slowing you from becoming more positive as you ascend.
Stay safe out there and enjoy your time underwater!
@@xIntoxicat Remember that the gas in your BCD expands as you ascend which increases the volume which makes you ascend faster. You don't want a run away ascent because that leads to the Bends. Thinking you can manage orally inflating and breathing from a BCD in an emergency is mad. I'm a cave diver and wouldn't even attempt that.
Instead keep blowing small bubbles and ascend at the CESA speed. The air in your lungs will expand too as you ascend and it will feel like you can keep breathing out! Of course it won't feel great since your CO2 level rises too but that's a breath reflex you can suppress. Free divers do that all the time. There's a lot of O2 left in there and you can last a lot longer than one breath.
What shop in Key Largo? I used to work at FL Keys Dive Center. They trained the trainers.
TH-cam needs more reaction channels like this one! It's very educational and entertaining!
I’ve tested BCD breathing, on land and in a pool. I was able to remain on it on land for 2mins comfortably (slower RR). And under water (1.5m) was happy for a minute easily.
Everytime you guys have stories they just make me never wanna get in the water 😆
Man, I'm glad you said that about handling the marine life.
Fish are friends, not food
Touching the turtle 😭😭😭whyyyy I’m so glad you guys call this crap out
Woody do you think it's possible that aliens are removing air from divers tanks,to keep the divers from discovering the aliens deep sea fortresses???
Yes
Cthulu wants to keep the divers in the deep
@@clydeceniza2521 I knew it!!!
Probably
I always enjoy these vids where these two experts review the "What NOT to do" reactions, bc I helps to teach people, even inexperienced novices, like myself, the correct way to prevent these dangerous situations from occurring & the procedure(s) involved if &/or when it does, in order top help save lives. That said, for me, personally, I'll NEVER go deep sea diving, but I still enjoy watching these, none-the-less.
I am afraid of diving. I'm never going to dive because I'd be too much afraid. Yet I'm binging on these videos non-stop, it's like watching a horror movie to me (but an informative one, so that's a good thing!)
Same for me. These videos are so addicting. And i love the ocean, fully embracing the pisces in me, but im too scared of not being able to just breathe and having anxiety but love watching Gus and Woody and learning so much.
These videos cover what can go wrong in diving and should be taken very seriously. However I can tell you that diving is incredible and a whole lot of fun. I'd urge you to try it even if you just do a discovery dive and go down 12m. Its actually very relaxing once you know what you are doing and don't dive beyond your comfort zone. You don't have to go 50m deep or do crazy cave dives to experience the best that diving has to offer. Many reefs and sealife are just 15-20m down and when done with a good divemaster you will always feel in safe hands.
I think you guys have grown as a Chanel so much and you make everyday better for me as a free diver you make me feel home 🖤🐳🐬
my buddy ran out of air once and I offered him my octo and he still bolted to the surface. sometimes people just panic
Definitely agree with the use of the breath use from the BCD when out of tank air, something so simple - it's brilliant!
I learned much from you guys I honestly thought diving wasn't that difficult but now I know it's extremely difficult if not well informed or taught even at shallow depths. I'm glad I saw your channel or else I would have done this blind in the future I'll probably not do it at all lol
I don’t dive in any way but I love to learn, and watching your guys videos adds to my knowledge when I watch your videos. I just wanted to say you guys do a great job of entertaining while teaching the proper methods at the same time. 👍🏻
I have over 1,500 dives under my belt.....Never ran out of air.....Not even close.....Always be on the boat with 600+ lbs....PAY ATTENTION TO YOUR PRESSURE GAUGE......PAY ATTENTION !!!!.......North East Diver....Long Island
I absolutely love the channel guys! Got really into scary cave diving stories and eventually ran across you two. Absolutely a fan and can't stop binging! Keep it up!
Dive Talk be on the clock in the comment section haha
Re: breathing out of your BCD; I believe I read when I bought my BCD a warning ⚠️ that the air once entered into your BCD contains carbon monoxide, which if breathed can make you pass out. Has anyone else looked into this?
The same air that your tank is putting in your bcd is the same air you're breathing. If you have dangerous level of CO in your BCD you're already screwed. Besides that, not breathing at all or aspirating water will 100% make you dead. So even if there is a chance to pass out... I'd take it.
I know nothing about diving, but I love this channel.
Every time I hit a video, it’s like meeting up with friends.
LOL
Definitely try out the breathing from the BC I think it’s totally possible. Haven’t tried it myself though. I’m going on a dive in a couple of days so if I try it first I’ll let you know.
I wouldn't breath out of your BC at all, you would probably Get a chest infection
@@nitroxdiver461 I'm not sure how much the infection risk would be (i would think pretty low, not a lot of moisture or food sources in their for bacteria to proliferate). But if you need another breathe for a CESA I'd try that since running out of air would kill you immediately, the infection would take several days.
My friend (not my dive buddy on this dive) ran out of air at about 130ft. He was using an old J valve tank that had a worn out spring that was used to create a reserve amount of air in the tank. You are supposed to trip the reserve so you get the full tank but my friend forgot and quickly ran out of air. He wasn't my buddy, but when I realized he was having a problem, I got close to him so he could reach my safe 2nd. We made a nice, controlled ascent and my friend was very grateful I kept my shit together and facilitated the ascent. Diving is no joke, you really have to be prepared for anything to happen and to fix the problem at depth and to not panic.
Let's always use "oxygen in balloons" instead of "air in tanks", it's the correct chernobyl way of saying it
I don’t know where was the second dive but every time your buddy touching me i’m asking if all is ok regardless situation and depth.
Better be safe than sorry!
Theres only 3 possible options if Im grabbed by someone under water. My buddy saw a shark or something else I need to meet, some asshat is harrassing me or theres an emergency. All three warrant ALMOST the same ammount of attention. Obviously saying hello to the shark is the more important :p
Thank you guys so much for the education, #1, inspiration, and laughter. That sums up life in a nutshell! Love your laughs!😅
Woody, that looks like a comfy chair. If I ran out of air at 60 feet and I was not close to another diver I would slowly surface while keeping my airway open.
This was very educational!
Thank you guys!
I ran out of air at 60 feet due to the spring for the reserve breaking and winding into itself. Being an engineer and understanding physics I knew I could make it to the surface. I was trained to blow a small bubble and follow it up. To exhale slowly as the air in my lungs will expand.
Wow i keep taking deep breaths while watching this. Please be careful diving! So happy that you two are safe and have fun as well as respect nature. Yall are awesome.
don't touch the wildlife - that's being outside with respect 101
I love you Woody & Gus I've learned so much from just watching you on your channel, Thank you so much for educating us , it truly is appreciated. You guys explain everything which is fantastic. I never thought any diving with breathing apparatus wether on a re-breather or not would be so phenomenally technical . I've never done any of diving like what you guys do however after watching you both for quite sometime I really want to learn to scuba dive & so much more . Thanks Woody & Gus for these amazing educational videos. With Love & Light from Niki here in the UK 🇬🇧 ✨️ 😊💙💜 xx
My 7 year old nephew is very interested in diving and how people can breathe underwater. I had my sister subscribe a minute ago and can't wait to hear what he thinks. Every young future scuba diver needs Dive Talk :) Education about diving safety SAVES LIVES. You guys rock :)
You are so awesome! Thank you.
@@DIVETALK Update: My nephew loves your videos! His mom just told me. So, hugs all around. Keep up the great work, yall and thanks for what you do! :)
@@madelinedaigle7598 great to hear!!!
I am always super paranoid about my air levels as I am quite a deep breather and tend to run down a tank quicker than most. My gauges are always a quick glance away and are checked constantly. As others have noted, there should be no reason to run out unless you have a failure of some kind.
My fiancé had this happen on a shore dive from a resort in Turkey. The guide took us down to about 20m. Shes not as fastidious about checking her gauges as I am but while we were at depth she checked her gauge and she was basically out. Luckily the guide had a full spare tank, so she completed the dive on his spare, although I had enough left in my tank that we could have easily shared mine to do a direct ascent with safety stop as opposed to the more leisurely swim around the reef we did to complete the dive as planned. That said I still think we should have ended the dive and headed back immediately, but the guide insisted it was fine. I figured a separate full tank and reg is better than risking sharing a tank, though, so I let it go.
I think the 1st stage on her reg had a small leak we didnt spot initially because checking the videos afterwards there were tell-tale bubbles. You live and learn.