Divers React to 15 divers trapped in collapsed cave
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 เม.ย. 2024
- Fifteen explorers were trapped for two days, including Andrew Wright, a producer of “Sanctum” and a documentary about the incident called “Nullarbor Dreaming.”
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If I’m not mistaken I believe that cave passage Gus was talking about leads to the Nope room in the Nevergonnagothere region of Screwthatastan!!! 😂
You're absolutely right, it was first discovered by Donald Turnback and Kenny Helnaw sometime in late 86.
Took me wayy too long to get this joke😂☠️
SCREWTHATASTAN SUCKS. BEEN THERE. (unintentionally, of course)
@@leighannlivingston1271 I was there from 04 to 05 courtesy of Uncle Sam!!! 😂
Yea I'll stick to watching videos 😊
Pannikin cave, the name is very fitting. I’m Pannikin just watching!
Solid
Well done
Nomen est omen👍
Chat gpt
Nice
I’m a plumber who has never dived before and I love watching dive talk! It’s always good vibes on this channel
I'm a carpenter
I'm a farmer
I’m a show horse groom and rider and I love this channel!
Woody contemplating the horror of being more than 3 hours away from a Burger King !
"What's this video about?" was my genuin reaction too. That story was great.
I love hearing things like 'gritting teeth against the pressure' just knowing Woody's about to get triggered so hard haha
I'm not going to lie, Gus talking about the hole and them both talking about the rule of 1/3 and fasting was more entertaining than the video they were reacting to! I was disappointed each time they went back to the video! 😂😂
AGREED. Also I fully support with his “Use 1/3 to penetrate” philosophy.
At least, the ladies seem satisfied.
The way the original video is written and produced is so grating
grating?
Oh yeah super annoying. The mix of movie footage is distracting.
chatgpt narration. there is a reason the channel was banned from yt
those chat gpt narrations are driving me insane lol
yea next level plagiarism too
The voice in that narration is Keith Morrison (late Matthew Perry's stepdad), who is a real journalist, so I doubt he would be associated with something like that. Unless, of course, that is an AI recreation of his voice. Dunno...
@@dubbledub4588the voice over sounds AI to me I’d say more likely than not AI
I reeeeeeeally dislike this video format (AI /chatgpt narration). I have a hard time caring about anything that fake voice is saying
@@ejhanson2911
I think that's most of us. It removes the human element which is based off emotions.
You know it’s gonna be a good day when divetalk uploads!
guys please watch Null Arbor dreaming, not this AI slop! its a full documentary made using the actual footage they captured during the expedition, disaster and rescue!
When you're 13 and your English teacher tells you the essay would be better if you used more adjectives.
😆 Nope..... and you can be imaginative with your nouns and verbs instead when describing something. 'Fear STITCHED his feet to the precipice'
Lol he probably googled spooky words
@@Masicka4Dem Oh, I thought he was describing his status quo at school... and yes, there are many young people following this channel!
As a skinny guy with an overactive metabolism, I understand why Woody doesn’t think he can go without food for more than a day. We have pretty much no reserves. I’m willing to bet that Woody would get pretty hangry by the end of the first day. I know I would.
i tried it, went 16 days no food only liquid just like Gus told me i have to do and i gotta say it's not so bad but be sure to alternate your milkshake flavors or you'll get bored.
It's awful. Like, I was on a liquid diet for almost three months at one point and I hated it. I instantly went for a smash burger when I got the ok to eat solid food again. There's nothing more depressing than having to strain the noodles, veg and chicken out of a bowl of chicken noodle soup hahaha
31:45 there’s a difference between fasting at home relaxed, safe, and able to sleep….. versus fasting while in a life threatening situation, constantly using energy to keep yourself in a relatively safe position in the cave stuck underground.
Although I agree they would probably be fine after a day… but the lack of sugar (low blood sugar) while in a life threatening situation would definitely put you at a higher risk of succumbing than someone who was able to eat to keep their strength up.
I think the water might pull out the salt out of you or something
Yep, plus the cold that Gus said they should be more worried about also takes energy to combat. Since I don't get hungry (autism powers /s), when I haven't eaten for a good while the first indicator of it is when I get way colder than I should be.
@@dis8791
My son who as Autism is the exact same way. By the time he does eat he's starving & can pack some food away as a teenager 😂
For reference, this accident was in 1988; most of the footage here is just generic B-roll stuff. No CCRs, no Sidekick, not even any sidemount, no RUVs, and no laptops even would have been used back then. 'Sanctum' (2011) may have been inspired by this incident but it's just a drama based on being trapped in a cave. For example, I don't think any of the guys involved in the real 1988 incident actually murdered each other.
Food rationing: yeah you can go a day without food. My military survival training taught the same 30 days for food and 3 days for water, depending on climate and exertion.
i went 16 days no food, only milkshakes.
A more realistic documentary of the expedition, with only real footage, is called Nullarbor Dreaming. It's on TH-cam.
Thanks, I'm so looking that up now ! 😊
Already sounds 10 times better than this movie spliced video they’re watching
Thanks!!
Nullabor Dreaming
Oh thank god. I’m going to watch that and then come back to this so I can filter out the AI video.
I love how every time you guys react to a video of a treacherous cave where people died or almost died, the reaction tends to be "I wanna go there".
Seems like there’s a constant here. People who like this stuff and compelled.
@lindboknifeandtool “I want to go there.” ME: Nope. Nada. Nyet. No way
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Is “hold my reel” the diving equivalent of “hold my beer”? 😂
You guys misunderstood the pressure comment. It was referencing the pressure he felt from squeezing through a tight passage, not the actual water pressure. Seemed pretty obvious to me.
I don't even dive but you guys are too cool and funny 😂
Woody it's not Star Trek it's a clip from the movie "Sanctum". Most of the footage is from that film.❤
Edit: comment made before Gus mentioned it😂
Would happily dive in open water. Would never catch me in a cave. Australia is my country and yes everything here is pretty deadly haha.
Good to see you gents should come down under definitely
Truamatic experiences like this hit ppl in ways they never dreamed it would. I'm not a diver, but I've come close to death in a couple different situations, and I know from experience that it can make you not be able to put yourself back into risk of being in that same situation again. I had a really scary experience dry caving when I was about 18- and I developed claustrophobia as a result and to this day- many decades later- have never stepped foot into another cave- and never will. If you put me into a spot where I can't turn and see what's around me- I freak out, start feeling like I can't breathe, and then this unbelievable need to get out arises and I will start fighting and panicking. And it wasn't even that bad of an incident to be honest- we ran out of light about a mile underground. Long story short- we bought a bunch of cheapo Walmart flashlights and tried to explore a local cave- none of us being cavers or having any experience with it. And like I said- they all died, one by one- and left us in complete darkness in a place where we had zero hope of ever finding our way out. Luckily, another group came in and we walked out with them, but we had spent about an hour in the dark trying to figure out what to do. About the time we saw someone's light coming, things were starting to get ugly- ppl were starting to panic and blame one another. And this is not a high traffic cave, this is a cave hardly anyone even knows about- so the chances of another group coming in like that were so small it's insane that it happened and saved us. The group said they went to church nearby and had been talking about coming and checking out the cave after services for weeks- but for some reason, that Sunday- they did it. If they hadn't, I wouldn't be typing this- I'd be dead and no one would've even known where to look for us.
Yeah, you can't predict in advance at all. You can even go through multiple experiences and not develop PTSD and then have something that doesn't even seem as bad happen and wham, PTSD. Our brains are just weird. (Also remember that it's *perception* of danger that is the issue, not objectively how much danger you are in. And danger to other people can also trigger the same sort of issues.)
It's not associated with how calm you are at the moment, either. I have PTSD and during the incident that cause it I was completely fine.
I can hear Woody saying you need at least 3 torches!! Wowsers. Quite some horror story that left a legacy. If it was me, I'd seek professional help so I could cope in such a situation.
@@wakingtheworld I would, if it really negatively affected my life- I don't really feel it does. I'm an old man now anyway- retired, live on a 60-acre farm- I'm good. They did close the cave I was talking about to the general public though- now you have to have a state permit- issued by the Tenn. Valley Authority to go in- and they only let researchers and certified cavers with experience inside. It's a miracle we made it out without need of rescue. Just one of the many stupid things we did as teenagers.
@@stoneysdead689 Clearly you were meant to survive that incident. Aye, we all do things we regret but reckless seems to be a teenage lads thing. Glad you're still here to tell the tale.
Gus' "STOP prevent your death" chain >>>>>
When i was a kid and fun was still allowed a neighbor set up his crawlspace with gym mats to make cave restrictions for halloween, hearing bout the spelunking conferences reminds me a lot of that.
Am i the only person here who will never dive beyond open water scuba and Mexican cenotes who cannot stop watching cave diving videos and squirming in discomfort the whole time?
Nope I am right with you
Hon, I only go to the pool and beach shore. Lol.
I also went a couple of days without eating, just fluids, when I fell ill with a lung infection during a trip in Cuba. I was active everyday, even went hiking in Escambray Mountains. As long as you keep yourself active the hunger goes away. It's definitely a weird experience. You eventually have to force yourself to eat once you hit a certain stage. That's the hard part.
the lack of hunger while fasting is due to a bodily process called "autophagy" which literally means the body starts eating itself. Basically you start to metabolize energy stored in glycogen and fat, which is why fasting can be an effective way to lose weight if done correctly.
Always good to see you guys! "Hey everyone, my name is Gus - Hi! I'm Woody!" :D
Love Spelunking as well! Rule is that if you can fit thru a metal clothes hanger you can go into restricted caves.
Sounds like everyone is using chat gpt now for narration.
Yeah its AWful
Unfortunately it isn't just the narration. It's gotten advanced enough that the ENTIRE process is automated. The voice is AI generated, the dialogue is AI generated and even the video editing is AI generated. The bot is fed a theme/information for the video and is supplied clips, then, when the video is edited together, it generates a narration for each edited bit of the video for it to plausibly fit together and be coherent. There may be some human editing and tweaking made to the final product but since the channel of this original video is terminated, I don't know how lazy this particular channel is.
You'll see this notoriously with the current "movie recap channel" plague. The content farms using this tech is getting really atrocious and so long as they can profit off of it and people continue to watch it, this problem will only get worse.
You need to dive the Shaft with Mike and Edd.
I've watched so many of your videos. So interesting. Thank you; I hope you do them forever! Looking forward to hearing the latest about DAN. Love to both
Sound like the beginning of a scary movie. I've been having dreams about being trapped again first when I was just 6 years old and now again while 34 waking up gasping for air twisting blankets around me, wondering if I was in another life drowning in a cave...
Hate to say this but quite likely; I'd seek professional help to clear this traumatic memory....
Our desire to explore is universal. I have crawled thru and under and over collapsing timbers, one way in, one way out and sometimes, very little air. Def. scares the hell out of me that it could collapse. I did go back to try again and yep, was collapsed.
In order to "stay calm" while facing death, you have to have already come to terms with your own mortality, which most people have not. I think people who face danger and do things that entail high risk are more likely to have accepted the fact that they could die doing these things. They want to live, obviously, but when facing a life/death situation and reaching calmness... there is a level of detachment from survival that has been internalized. Overcoming desperation and panic for humans is extremely difficult and requires some intense mental and physical training.
I was a roofer for 15 years. What you described is exactly the techniques I used to put fear aside and do dangerous things day after day.
Haven’t laughed harder than I did at “we had to procure our own breakfast man” 😂😂😂😂
Thank you for explaining equalizing. I have trouble with going down steep hills while driving. I once tried to reach the bottom of a 12' pool and felt like my head was going to explode around 9 or 10'. lol. I never understood how people could go so much deeper and not have it bother them.
Man this one had me drooling.
I’ve played around in a speleobox (artificial wooden cave box) before too and it is incredible fun.
It’ll be a long journey before I’m snaking around in underwater caves in Tulum or Cozumel but I savor every moment training for it ❤
with videos like this I feel the gain on your mic's is higher than the gain of the video you're reacting to.
every time you guys speak my neighbours can hear :D
Wow Gus looking good I have been away from your channel for a while and what a transformation. Woody you always looked great maybe have a cheeseburger every now and then. Love the show guys you have all but mastered the reaction video. I learn so much from you two. The first thing is I will never be a cave diver so mucho props to you and the entire community!
I've missed new videos from you guys this is so great if I had the resources I would totally love to take a basic diving class with you guys as my instructors
Hi Gus and Woody, last weekend I qualified with British Sub Aqua Club as an Ocean Diver (to 20m in a UK quarry) and am now on my Sport Diver (to 35-40m) training.. 1st June I'll do my first dive in the sea off the coast of Plymouth, UK, to a ship wreck at 20m. The dry suits are a major faff but fine once you get in the water (unless you hire one with a leaky neck collar like I did!). The only reason I even started was because of watching your reaction videos and Cozumel and live videos! You inspired me to try diving because of the way you explain everything so methodically and how chilled out and positive you both are.... so thank you both! Love your videos!!!
I have never been diving before but I love your videos. You totally answered one of the questions I had about clearing and pressure. Thank you!
Wow Gus first time coming back to the channel after a year or so, you look incredible man. Congratulations on the weight loss, you look so much younger. God bless you.
So sorry the reaction video to "Sanctum" got blocked by YT... Can we watch it somewhere else?
Big respect and thanks to Gus and Woody!
I watch Don Shipley to, there's a podcast with another SEAL interviewing his son DJ who was on SEAL team 6.
Thank you for talking about equalizing and the pressure differences lol, before you did that I wanted to ask about it so bad😅
Scorpions sting you! Lol.... Scorpion bite! Lmfao
Thank all the gods that the falling debris didn't snap the guideline or alter it leading into the abyss!
Oddly, missing a splash of Pink
I'd like to thank you 2 guys for the hours of entertaining and very informative content your channel has given me. I'm not a person that enjoys water activities unless it's in a pool at a five star resort...! Thanks Woody and Gus. Keep them coming
A submerged cage that help train diving in a tight space with sides that can open for people who have difficulty is a great idea
As an actor, i auditioned for this movie. i read my line "oh my god, the cave is flooding with more water!", they asked me why i was smiling and saying the line as if it was my birthday. I told them, "i'm a cave diver, what's not amazing about more watery caves???" unfortunately the didnt give me the role.
algorithm must be working I been binge watching cave explorations all week! Great content!
Very happy to watch this video. You are a great team. I kept thinking the narrator sounded too cheerful for this to be a diving tragedy video. And re fasting, twice a year for Lent is always such a big deal, ha. I feel you, Woody. But Gus, you’re impressive!
Woah I haven’t watched one of yall videos in a while and omg Gus looks sooo good !!!
Hey Gus! hope its not mean to say but ive watched you guys since when you first started up! i dont know if youve been trying to lose weight for a while but man, the change from when i first watched you guys to now is incredible you look great!
I'm Australian and in my home state every snake is venomous
I'm American... no matter what country or state I'm in, every snake is venomous, and I'll let someone else figure out which ones are not. I'll Dive with Gators up to 8ft, already have Costa Rican Scorpion venom in my blood, I don't mess with snakes... ever. I don't care what shape their head is, they're all "DeathAdderRattlerMambaCoralCobras" to me.
I love watching you all talk about diving and caves BC there's no way I could after I almost drowned. Gus talking about fitting through holes 😂 and woody willing to do anything but wants us to understand very well!!
Hope you get to 0.5mn subscribers soon !
You both deserve it.
Survival, like diving, has a rule of 3s. 3 minutes without air, 3 days without water, 3 weeks without food and 3 months without shelter. There is always an exception to those rules, like trained free divers who can hold their breath for 5+minutes. More body fat will translate to more ability to go without food, this is why women tend to fair better in survival situations and explains why Gus feels more comfortable fasting than Woody. The downside to this is that once your body starts to consume itself it will devolve to very dangerous consequences when you go from burning fat to burning muscle. Even having access to food will not help if the food has no fat as you are unable to process protein without fat. This is known as "rabbit starvation" as people in survival situations who manage to catch lean meats with no fat, like rabbits, will continue to starve to death no matter how much they eat. Shelter can be as simple as being dressed appropriately to creating a temporary structure or carrying gear meant for the purpose. Water is the one true hard and fast, zero exceptions.
You guys should definitely go to Australia and meet up with Dr. Harris! The Great Barrier Reef is a must-see for every diver, you can’t even describe it! Not even woodys impressive hat collection!
omg the fasting tangent was hilarious
Woody you can easily go a day without eating. Once you get past a certain point you no longer feel hungry and you actually feel really good. I can feel my brain working better and I hate to mess it up by eating b/c I'll crash after. Its almost a euphoric feeling. At least for me.
If I went without eating for 27 hours, I would request cheeseburgers over oxygen.
Funny thing is I'm sick and I haven't eaten in two days and the first thing I just ate was a cheeseburger lol
I like ur guys vids. I wanted to be an underwater welder when I was a kid in middle school and still now over 20 yrs later would love to get into diving and your vids always inspire me. Sometimes though I miss out on alot of important information that woody is explaining cause gus can like to cut him off sometimes lol
Holy crap Gus, I must have missed some recent videos. Where is the rest of you? Good for you my man. Looking svelte!
Roughing it in a 3 star hotel 😂😂😂
Taking my daughters to Cozumel at the end of July for their 2nd dive trip. Asked them if they wanted to do 3 days of diving or 2 with zero hesitation they both replied 3 I love it
Lol@ that opening marriage moment...😂😂😂every time you go our credit card it maxed out...lmaooo..* and the eyes roll😂...loves you guys.
Thanks guys
It's so funny to me that the rest of the world sees Australia as everything is Tryna kill you. I never really knew that til recently. Coz I don't feel like that living here at all 😂😂
I’m excited to hear about what DAN had to say. I’m glad they actually talked to you guys but also skeptical that maybe they’re giving you guys special treatment.
If the special treatment we’re receiving translates into benefits introduced to the entire dive community then that’s all good!
Hello from Idaho!
Love your channel! ❤ I've been watching for awhile 😊 Wish I was brave enough to go diving but I've convinced myself I would panic.
I'll just leave the diving to people like you guys! 😁
It's a tough cave to get into, and out of, but amazing to dive. I hope to get back there.
Woods extra spicy this week hahaha hilarious
😂 " I'm to old to rough it like that anymore " I totally felt that Woody 😅 at 60 yrs old I find myself trying to make everything a little more comfortable 😂
I love doing 3 day fasts! Make sure you talk to your doctor, as well as drinking things with electrolytes not just water. Only water for three days will flush out necessary vitamins and minerals you need, so make sure to hydrate with Gatorade etc
What a situation to be in, also with pressure I agree with you all, I use to dive years ago and it doesn’t bother me and I felt nothing either
imagine if in the future they had diving equipment that could take oxygen from the surrounding water, like gills on a fish, so you never need tanks anymore? the only thing stopping you from being able to dive for as long as you like might be based on how oxygenated the water is, or if whatever makes the oxygen available to you runs out like a chemical or something
That's a good idea. Its electrolysis. I'm not sure how it would work and if you'd just be swapping gas for a large power supply or perhaps it can be done chemically, like a fish. Then there'd be issues filtering out salt or minerals, where do they go and don't forget you're making twice as much hydrogen as oxygen. Have to dump that. You'd also have to pressurize the oxygen and then what about nitrogen or helium or just air? With electrolysis you're creating pure oxygen which can be toxic in too high of a concentration. I think its worth exploring but there's definitely some big challenges that might leave you worse off than before.
@@Nefville how do fish gills work though? someone would need to study how they work and replicate it.. im not sure you need to pressurise air if its created while ur at that depth, it would already be at that pressure.. i bet if someone like an expert on diving collab'd with some really genius science guy like NilesRed they might be able to come up with some solution?
How old are you ? Just wondering the ballpark number, just curious @@tigrecito48
@@tigrecito48nevermind saw your other comments, I can see where you're coming from lol
@@Nefville Fish don't breathe the oxygen in the water itself (so the oxygen in H2O), they breathe dissolved oxygen in the water.
It doesn't really make sense to replicate this though, as the main problem is that pure oxygen is toxic at depth (beyond 6m/20ft), so you need to dilute it with another gas (generally nitrogen and/or helium). This means this diluent gas has to be recycled continuously, otherwise you would need to bring large tanks, completely defeating the purpose of getting the oxygen from the water. To recycle it, you need to remove the exhaled carbon dioxide, which is what the scrubber in a rebreather does, and supplement the oxygen.
The oxygen tank on a rebreather isn't very large, commonly only 2L or even less, and that can last longer than the scrubber. It doesn't make sense to replace a 2L tank with something much more complicated and less reliable.
Now if we could find another way to remove the carbon dioxide, by somehow getting that to diffuse into the water sufficiently fast without losing the other gasses...
Damn haven't seen one of yall videos in a minute! Miss these!!
Coming after a year to see how you guys going. I was here when you guys had 20k followers. Great channel.
damn, gus lookin shredded! keep up the work man, it's showing!
Aussie here! ☺️ Not a diver but love your videos, I've learnt so much!
The eating thing also depends on your level of activity. When I was younger, I got a really bad infection in my mouth and refused to eat for about 5 days because it was just uncomfortable to. I slept through most of it, and woke up on the 6th day feeling fine. My mother ended up getting me to sip on a fruit smoothie after begging me for about 2 hours. Best smoothie I've ever had to this day 😂
Original video: "This video is no longer available because the TH-cam account associated with this video has been terminated."
I will probably never have the oppurtunity to scuba dive but i enjoy hearing yalls stories. Id be scared to death to disconnect a tank from my body.
"If you and your buddy are penetrating, and you are 1/3rd in, and worst case scenario you still have 1/4th left to go and your equipment fails"
Bit of animosity there guys😂😂
the random rambling about fasting was really cool, i love fasting as well. my longest has been 3 days but i couldve continued for sure, its definitely possible to not eat for that long!
I dived Pannakin's a few years ago. Spectacular dive but the dry entry section looks incredibly unstable still, and we take a lot of survival gear just in case the entry collapses.
Ok, I beg another question. I’ll probably ask many but next one.
Why don’t cave drivers carry some kind of strobe light? In cases of lost divers or body recovery would it make locating the missing easier?
LMAO It was the "He likes to rough it up" .. "We had to rough it up, too, weren't we in a 3-star hotel?" ... "We had to procure our own breakfast." LMAO Reminded me of Air Force versus Army/Marines 🤣
I got so into Gus's no tank story I forgot about the actual video. 😂 We want y'all to film the pool structure thing you were talking about to watch y'all practice getting stuck & getting out!
I love your imput im not a diver too scared but watch your videos from afar thanks for the good content
something I've been wondering while binging your episodes, and just truly curious, haven't dived yet, but really fascinated by the whole science of it.. but the question that I have been wondering, when you are in the ocean.. compared to being in a fresh water cave, due to the volume of water in the ocean is the pressure change more than if you are in cave? if the cave water isn't coming or going directly to the ocean? just something i have been wondering this whole time any info is appreciated :)
Gus looking really good! Applause. Would be cool to hear from him his journey.
Gus looks like he could throw me like a javelin here
Ah? First, fantastic channel. I am living cave diving through you two with the science explained, just well done.
Ok, how many tanks can a diver take? Is it limited by human physiology? And why don’t exploring divers stage tanks as they go, just in case if not them then another could use? Does the “tri-mix” have an expiration date?
I could look it up but hearing you two answer would be greater.
You taught me a lot I'm this video. Thanks