the funny thing is. we all became what we most despised because its called growing up. unfortunately if you dont fall in line, unless you are VEERY lucky, you will be living on the street. try turning 40 and refusing to work, turning up your nose to capitalism and refusing to "grow up". Yeah, youre living on the street. but that was the best part about being a punk as a kid. you didnt have any hopes or desires to be the way we end up being. as opposed to the kids (preppies) who looked up to the adults and the world and couldn't wait to become successful. they robbed themselves of their youth... and thats much much worse than "falling in line" when you become an adult.
I'm mostly a brutal death metal fan but I will never stop loving pop punk bands from the mtv era. I am still a HUGE Sum 41 fan and will never be ashamed of it
I feel like pop punk will always pull at people’s heart strings. Especially those who grew up with it around the 2000’s. Those were some awesome times though.
I agree. During that time, I was way more into Nu-Metal, but I listened to pop punk too, specially Blink 182. A couple of years later, thanks to the internet, I got a hold of some Good Charlotte, Offspring, Green day and Sum41 songs and I really loved them. Great soundtrack for the teenage years
Word. I'm about to turn 35, and you can still occasionally see me out in the street in front of my house, wearing some black cargo pants, and doing stunts with either my skateboard or RC car. Some things never change...
Yup. But let's be thankful that pop punk had the run it did, from about 1994-2009. It had a much longer time in the sun than many genres/subgenres did.
Well, and the people who made pop punk are all AT LEAST middle aged now. Young people like music made by other young people and the sound tends to change along with that.
@@yellowpinkgreengreen That's not unique to pop-punk/emo-pop, that's also pretty common with rock music in general. Rock as a whole seems to now be perceived as the music of dads, grandpas, annoying hipsters, and old washed up has-beens.
@@Interestingenough4 Every generation is like that though. For example, you don't see teenagers listening to doowop because that's grandpa music. It's definitely not just a punk problem.
I still blast Simple Plan's songs in our gym's loud speakers and teenagers and early 20's kids love it. They bop their heads and stomp their feet on it while working out. Pop punk will always appeal to young people because it sounds young.
Pop punk is a timeless genre to me. I never get tired of it. THE STARTING LINE IS ONE OF MY ALL GOATS. As a 23 year blink fan, I will never stop listening to pop punk
Ywss I don't think it died at all I go to shows Ll the time and buyerch still literallye and all my friends still fuq with pop punk...right now sadboi rap is popular but there's always something that's the most popular at the moment but doesn't mean. It's dead.
The lead singer of The Starting Line has a couple of other projects that are also great. Vacationer and Person L are both almost equal to The Starting Line.
Honestly, (and I've thought ALOT about this lately), I feel like we love pop punk still because of the era it was a part of. 1995-2007 were some of the greatest times to be an American kid growing up a normal life. School, girls, sports, flip phones, etc. It was just good. The internet was there but didn't control us and social media was still in its infancy, therefore not really giving people a voice who did NOT need to have a voice lol There was a laid back, optimistic outlook on life that was pervasive all around. Everything changed starting in 2008. Media content (like movies, music, etc.) became driven by social agendas, social media and smart phones split us apart, and it's only gotten worse. This music reminds me of what it was like to be a kid in a golden age -- I miss it.
I always mark 2008 as the end of the 2000s and the start of a transitional time, and 2009 is just WEIRD in my memory. Such a strange year imo. But yeah, 2003-2007 were my personal prime years I’d say. 1997-99 were important to me too, but solely because of Titanic mania lol.
@Le Femme Lolita has got a helluva point. it's less about the time and more about your age at the time. i could give you a paragraph like that about the mid to late '90s, because that's when i was old enough to have fun and young enough to lack responsibilities, but it didn't run all the way to 2007. by then i was paying off student loans on a retail paycheck and wondering when my life was going to take off.
I think its good that punk rock and rock is not all that mainstream, we can maybe go back to the time when you found your new favorite band at local shows. Punks not dead, its just back at square one...your backyard shows at dive bars and just strait up local shows. SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL SCENE
We actually had a small venue behind my high school where we would do hardcore shows. $10 to get in and it was a free for all. Met so many great bands in person and got to play with my band on that stage once. Nothing better than the local scene.
@@j.c.k9922 lol dude producing actually worthwhile beats(Mac Miller swimming or circles are both perfect albums) is infinitely harder than producing a simple 2 verse 2 chorus 1 bridge and solo music. I've been playing melodeath and black metal which are arguably much harder than rock and shit is child's play compared to making complex beats. Also, listen to Kendrick Lamar's To Pimp a Butterfly like dude boomer mindset
I’m gonna say part of why the second pop of pop punk didn’t blow up is because we live in an era where culture isn’t homogenized. Back in the 90s, you didn’t have Spotify or the internet to stream music. If you were a band, you NEEDED a label to get your music out there. Either that or hustle mad hard touring on your own selling physicals in every down. Everyone knew the same music because everyone listened to the radio and everyone got their music from stores like FYE or local record stores. Now, in the 2010s, stores like FYE don’t exist because nobody has to rely on them to find new music. Nobody listens to the radio they listen to what is on Spotify or what they can stream. Now normies will play what Spotify tells them which is what’s popular for the most part, but people who are in the “alternative” have a world of bands putting out their own music that’s equally as accessible as Any top artist these days are, and there’s so many bands and artists doing that, where do you even begin? Music has become so personal. Labels aren’t really necessary anymore with the internet, I think if we had the same conditions as the 90s (aka no internet) we would’ve had some label invest in newer pop punk bands ALSO piggybacking on homogenized culture, in the 90s and early 2000s you had things like bands being featured in movies and tv shows that spread their popularity, but now with the internet and streaming culture, kids don’t go home and watch MTV or Nickelodeon and come back talking about the new episode they saw. Now they stream what’s on Netflix or whatever other platform. You can choose to watch whatever so shows aren’t a thing everyone watches unless they’re the big ones. And with everyone obsessed with reboots, we aren’t really getting original shows that EVERYBODY and their mother watches, we just have a bunch of semi-successful shows and movies that a good amount of people see
Ska Tune Network there absolutely was the internet in the 90s along with stream services like limewire and Napster. MP3 than Napster started in 99 though and than limewire but I think limewire was 00s But I’m just messing with you and know what you mean I loved those times. Those times was a much better time
Lilly And Dans Beard Product Reviews yeah hahaha I meant the internet as we know it at least. Or internet culture. I remember the struggle of Napster and limewire to find music
Ska Tune Network lmao I remember how it took literally what seemed like days to download something and that was if someone didn’t call your house phone and kick you off your dial up internet lmao Scrolling down the page to get it to refresh faster hahaha AOL chat lmao Man kids just don’t know the struggle haha
The turning point was when they released “Does this look infected?” Because their sound matured a ton and started showing a lot of their influences from 80s hard rock and heavy metal.
Maybe it’s just because I was in the thick of it, but the Emo Takeover was MASSIVE and “older” bands like Green Day successfully crossed over into it (aesthetically, for sure) with American Idiot and were bigger than ever! I think GD is a good measure of how pop-punk actually *did* remain super relevant until 2007-ish. They were coasting on American Idiot from 04-07 and once that wore off, so did pop-punk in general. Everything started changing in 2008. The flagship Emo Takeover bands like Fall Out Boy and Panic! released their “experimental” albums that year and it was all over after that lol.
I'm in a weird space with Blink, I am currently listening to Angels & Airwaves more than them. But i'm still jamming to Sum 41. It was a really good era.
Wow this is so accurate, I was born in 85, and as a black kid in middle and high school I caught so much shit for enjoying pop punk and later on emocore sounds. Bands like Brand New, Taproot, and Dashboard Confessional defined my senior year of high school.
@@sloppynyuszi same, I feel sad cause even if I do find someone who has the same music taste as me in real life. They will probably be White and there will always be that cultural divide type of thing
The Lawnmower Ix. 091 bro let’s be honest maybe if actual effort was being put into modern rock, punk, and metal then what you call “emo rap” wouldn’t have to step in. I fucking love punk rock but I’ve seen maybe three total good new bands pop up in the last decade and don’t even get me started on the state of metal.
Oh no, you even forgot that band my older brothers friend played with that's only well known in my city that one had a slight hit on Alternative radio in like 2002 that nobody remembers
Pop punk was one of those genres that were widely enjoyed by a large audience. It has a special place in the hearts of anyone who went to middle school, high school, or college at some point during the 90s/00s. :D
@@torstenscholz6243I entered middle school in 2008. I feel lucky to have caught even just the very tail end of it, the "Gives You Hell" or "21 Guns" era. hahaha
@@devonasprer5308yeah same here I was 13 in 2005 and I remember getting blinks greatest hits album. New found glory’s 2004 album was the first for me and early 2000s I was listening to all the punk music in all of the tony hawk games. My older brother introduced me to 90s punk. It was an amazing time
@@ChrisMacal even though I am 27 I still enjoy pop punk bands like blink 182. Sum 41 NFG paramoor it shouldn't matter how old you are if you still like pop punk that's awesome I also like a band called Belmont to
As an old dude who wouldn't have survived the disco hell of the late 70's if I hadn't discovered the Ramones, Sex Pistols and New York Dolls, I couldn't have been happier with the rise of pop punk in the late 90s. I taught my son how to play guitar during that time, and it was one of the coolest times of my life being able to play fun, fast music with him; learning and playing songs by MxPx, the Ataris and many more while sharing the punk tunes I grew up on. Great video - I still listen to a lot of these bands.
Pop punk is arguably one of the most influential rock genres in the history of rock. Even to this day, Twentyone Pilots, Panic at the Disco, Billie Eillish, Fever 333, a lot of the metalcore bands, etc., still base their music in the mid to late 90’s pop punk ethos.
I miss 2005 😢 blink, fall out boy, good charlotte, new found glory...Halo 2 on the OG Xbox live on a tiny CRT TV, getting CCS catalogs in the mail, only thing I had to worry about was school.....
The Punk Rock MBA dude those were the days!! I still regularly try to make it out to pop punk shows as much as I can I'm excited to see where the genre goes from here.
aside from greenday, no grown man should be listening to that crap. 90s epitaph records was the best time for REAL punk music. not these little bitches who paint their nails black and think they're punk rocker.
I refuse to be too cool to admit Good Charlotte was my childhood. Admittedly they don't end up in my speakers today as much as blink, green day, and mcr but still...
Austin Shappi You know what’s funny. I love unwritten law, but never thought of them as pop-punk. But I guess they were closer to bands like blink-182 than NOFX, Lagwagon, or No Use For A Name(some of the bands I usually lumped them in with).
"I used to be with it, but then they changed what it was. Now what I'm with isn't it, and what's it seems weird and scary to me, and it'll happen to you, too."
Another great one man. As a twist for a future episode, instead of "what killed..." would be interesting to get a "what will kill..." - You've gone deep enough on so many genres and their fall from grace, it would be interesting to develop a video on your hypothesis on what will kill a genre that is peaking right now (rap as an example [it won't die obviously, but it'll make way for something else]). 10/10 again finny!
Aesthetic aside, good Charlotte is actually one hell of a band. They are so good live. Tight, completely on time and synced up (would’ve be surprised if they play to a click these days) and vocals sound like their records. Spot on.
@@IceBreakBottle nothing that’s just a reason a lot of people hate on them. Some people see what a band looks like or their general vibe (merch designs, album covers etc) and write them off. It’s bogus but i made reference to the context of the video and how they’re actually a very good band, even though some people won’t give their tunes the time of day
The simple days....when Fall Out Boy was actually good. and every teenage crush was Haley Williams. and oh man the hardcore/emo phase....Underoath?? silversteinn? Taking back sunday?? Such simple times
Its like when I was a teenager I had wished that I got to grow up in the 60s or 70s or even 80s...Now were all grown up and we have our own little piece of history to remember :) Soon kids will be saying ''maaan i wish i could have grown up in the late 90s/early 2000s...''
I’ll never pass up a Silverstein/Underoath concert when they come around even now. I’ll miss the way shows used to be but meeting people who still jam to their music is awesome.
First off, I love your content. Unbiased and true to the music. My only requiem to the later years of pop punk that you didn’t touch on, at least in this video, I plan to watch many more… Was the New Jersey/ New York involvement in melodic hardcore!! Bands like Kid Dynamite, Paint It Black, Lifetime, basically all bands with Dan Yemen, was such a huge influence for my love of what I consider pop punk! Not to mention bands like Daggermouth, Shook Ones, Good Clean Fun.. These guys defined a genre to me… I’d love to hear your take on Daggermouth, and or Set Your Goals! Again, I love your content, and will be watching MUCH more! Thank you!!
I think rock music will never burn out. It‘s just too authentic. Picking up a guitar, writing a song about how you feel, showing that song to a drummer or a bassist. Getting creative together and giving your creativity and personality into THAT song. And it gets even more authentic from there.
Like i dont think people understand how big this genere was. It wasn't uncommon for black kids like me to have these songs in the mix with outkast 3 6 mafia and pastor troy. Tony hawk pro skater and MTV really did a good job marketing these bands. And you could see all of them on warped tour for cheap was the best part.
Best times ever honestly! I grew up in the hood but all my friends who only liked hip hop even knew the words to All Downhill From Here by New Found Glory haha pop punk was HUUUGE in the 2000s!
@@eh2396 my feelings. Are we the "normals?" then the normals were the ones that made the golden age of punk, go to a NFG or TBS show and its freaking beautiful to see the mix of people. like nothing else. thats why they were cool because they were inclusive
All, Descendants. Two of my first bands, and ones I saw. Going back further, Ramones, Stiff Little Fingers, The Clash. So good. From the era you’re describing, so many: Face to Face, No Use For A Name, Propaghandi, Tilt, Rancid, Green Day, Blink 182, Lagwagon, MxPx, Bad Religion, Pennywise, The Offspring,.....then Ska-punk like Less Than Jake, Reel Big Fish, Goldfinger, The Mr. T Experience. Mighty Mighty Bosstones. So many good memories!!
[Psychonymphsia Ultravistous] woah there, i just address how your comment sounds like how my mom would often say about the songs i listen to, no matter what genre it is unless i play something that is from her generation. i dont want a mindless word of war withyou because of some music im not interested in the first place. my advise to you listen to something that you like and stay away from videos like this it makes you passivd aggressive
[Psychonymphsia Ultravistous] funny how minds process things you read, i write my comments without any agenda and you interpreted it like im attacking you in any way shape or form. lol as ive said i aint gonna engage in a word of war with you, ill just enjoy my day. im not gonna try to be poetic or anything either coz that will change nothing, if you have issues with the music scene then keep it to your self weve got so much more problems than music. listen to what you like regardless of what people think of it
[Psychonymphsia Ultravistous] i couldve easily engage with you within this topic but i decided id rather not, not because im not knowledgable enough to share my opinion in this subject matter, i opted out for the somple reason that my comment is just as harmless as a newborn kitten that you very well manage to blow out of proportion. i wont engage you in any fancy talk about whats right or wrong. i dont even get why would you waste your time preaching to me things you stand for, for just a simple comment lol.
This video is a very accurate analysis of this change in mainstream music. I’ll never understand how the early 2000’s emo Music is made fun of by kids, yet juice wrld has the same whiny vocals and even cringier emo lyrics but kids love him cause he uses a trap beat instead of guitars and drums. To me there’s not really much of a difference besides that to these seemingly different music genres.
Cranky biker not meant to be an insult and personally I think the older emo is superior, but I don’t think anyone can deny the similarities between songs like I miss you by Blink and Lucid Dreams by Juice Wrld.
as far as the transition from pop punk to emo, one major driving factor was the fact pop punk bands grew up as well. Blink 182's self titled was arguably a major influence on the growth of emo bands; Sum-41's Chuck and later on Underclass Hero complimented this transition too. The All-American Rejects could serve as an example of this transition too, being associated with both emo and pop punk.
I guess so. Pop-punk is all about fun and teenage reckless abandon. Once those bands grew up, they didn't relate to the genre anymore I guess. Pop-punk always reminds me of skaters, jackass show, and fun mtv music videos. Whereas emo and other genres of rock music is more relatable to a larger audience.
Born in 95 and yeah, I listened to all the metalcore, pop punk (especially easycore) and post hardcore. I still listen to it for nostalgia and makes me super happy.
@[Psychonymphsia Ultravistous] Haha blows my mind that kids born in the mid 90s think they experienced pop punk and the like, they were literally babies shitting in their dipers
Rap became the new pop music man..i went to an all white school and country was the biggest genre at my school till Wayne dropped the Carter 3.EVERYONE was on that album in my town. He made rap what it is today unfortunately
@@slick_grimes7121 Carter 3 definitely started and Gucci and Waka further cemented it once they got big shortly after in 08-09. Carter 3 is when the N word went universal. First time I ever heard a white guy use the n word in person was around 08.
pop punk is still alive but in the most diminished form possible and beginning to swing into a new era. i think every band mentioned from that 2011-2015 era (the story so far, the wonder years, state champs, neck deep) is peaking, starting to settle and reach the height of their musical ability. there's very few newer bands that are doing things to push the sound of the genre and instead choosing to emulate what those 2011-2015 bands succeeded with, which granted is very hard in a genre that relies on the same 4 chord progressions over and over. of course this makes me think that a new era of sorts will begin in the next year or so where we'll see a bunch of newer bands figure out how to break through and breathe some new life into pop punk, most likely using some of those techniques that are so popular in the budding emo rap genre.
The pop punk genre will always have a huge space in my heart and my memories. The days of skateboarding with my friends after school, feeling the surge of energy that ran through me when the newest New Found Glory or Red Jumpsuit Apparatus song came on. I don't really think it died, personally I think if enough fans want it.....it will come back.
@@riccardolucchesi4101 Dal nome dovresti essere italiano, lo sono anch'io. Attendo con ansia una tua spiegazione, son proprio curioso di leggere quante più cazzate possibili riesci ad inventare per giustificare tale fesseria.
Its funny how at the time I loved NOFX, Lagwagon, No Use For a Name, etc. But hated Green Day and Sum 41. Its like Fat Mike hypnotised us all into believing anything popular must be bad. I still dont necessarily like those bands, but I can definitely see how they share the same DNA with some of my favorites.
Leo Harper everyone I knew with this mindset back in the day is now in Antifa, working part time at Starbucks with a useless PhD in Lesbian Dance Theory.
in 95' i was at a punk/skin bbq and watched two "hardcore punks" argue about a germs symbol painted on a jacket and talk about hair gel. I later asked if anyone was going to see Rancid next week, and they acted like I was the lamest square on earth. I clearly remember the show and pit being amazing and not giving one shit about how popular they had become.
Loving the fact that you covered bands like Title Fight, Citizen and Tigers Jaw etc.. they were a huge part of my high school experience and still some of my favorite music today.. Awesome vid man!
Rock is not dead, rock is just kinda "sleeping"? There's still kids like me that starts 1, 2, 100 bands! People just doesn't think that is "as cool as being a rapper".
Rock is far from dead, It's just not popular in the American mainstream. All over the world rock and metal bands sell miiions of records and play arena shows especially in Europe. Let the kids have their dopehead rapppers, that shit will die eventually because its so over saturated and plastic.
preach!! I'm currently tying to start a band that brings back all the love from 95,02,06 and what not, green day/sum41 style!! also some hints of classic rock like Zeppelin and metallica( for variation) this video gave me hope! maby now is the right time to strike X)!!@@spiderjerusalem100
Yeah, the US is just fucked up and it has a lot to do with the socio-political climate, the Internet, the opioid crisis, and glorification of being rich. Underground rock music is surprisingly popular in Latin America, especially Mexico City, and Germany. In the UK, mellower electronic music still dominates, indie bands, their own brand of r&b and rap (grime). Electronic oriented indie bands with inspiration from the 80s and 60s are popular in France and they also have a strong modern metal scene (Alcest and related bands). Germany is still mostly about techno and electronic but they have plenty of metal bands, some indie bands, their own hiphop scene that is similar to 90s US hiphop. Japan's pop is still mostly stuck in its pop hey day of the late 90s and 00s but the have some really good indie and indie electronic bands and metal has become sort of mainstream there with some of even the most cheesiest pop groups using metal style background music to their songs. Anyway, the point is, trap/soundcloud rap/emo trap is not part of the mainstream culture in most other countries. The US is the exception and as powerful as the US is in projecting its pop culture onto the world, it often does not heavily influence what people in those countries are into.
A lot of good stuff coming out of Australia. I follow Dreambound and UNFD. They post new videos of new bands all the time. A lot of it is a lot more melodic heavier stuff but it's awesome.
This is not true. Sadly any alternative band is pretty much underground. In Europe trap is big. I can confirm it because I live in Greece. And today's kids listen to all that shit. And it's pretty much the same in any other country .
I loved pop punk thats why I'm back making it and at 216K subscribers on youtube do u think its coming back ? My lastv4 songs are poppunk cause my views on youtube are insane
In hindsight, I wish +44 had recorded a follow up to their debut album. Had Blink stayed together after their 2003 album, I reckon +44 very close to what their next album would've sounded like. It disappoints me that they broke up when they did- that last album of theirs in 2003 was a turning point for them- they suddenly took on a more mature, serious, even dark tone. It could've been the springboard into a new era for them as a group, but then Tom fell out with Mark and Travis and that was it. I bought their 2011 album after they re-grouped, but I could count on a single hand the amount of times I listened to it. Maybe it was just me getting older and my tastes changing, but the songs didn't grab me like they used to.
@@Bennyboy1985 Yeah, I actually really dug "Neighborhoods," but it definitely felt more like Tom and Mark's other bands in the interim combined (Angels & Airwaves meets +44) instead of a natural extension of where they were eight years prior. In contrast, I still can listen to their eponymous 2003 album front to back and marvel at how unique yet recognizably Blink it sounds. The instrumental interludes, vocal samples, and almost spoken-word cadence of lots of the verses feel really ahead of their time, at least for a mainstream band.
@@TrevorNWhite I much preferred +44 to A&A. It's true that +44 had just that one album vs A&A's two, but whereas both A&A albums mostly sounded like an attempt to recreate U2 circa 'The Joshua Tree' mixed with Christian pop, +44's songs were more...heartfelt. It might have just been the time in my life where I was listening to that album most days, but it felt a lot more relatable to me. Then again, I've always thought Mark does serious songs much better than Tom...
@@Bennyboy1985 A fair stance! I'm in the opposite boat but for the same reasons, though -- I discovered AvA in high school and was super into their spacey sound and dramatic lyrics. +44's stuff was definitely more grounded, but it also wasn't quite as catchy or memorable to me.
Captain Haddock toms best serious song, in my opinion, is from that odds and ends thing. The invisible parade. His accent is gone in that song, and he can actually sing well (nothing against his any song he’s ever sung, as it’s probably the most recognizable voice in pop punk). Also, I feel that early AVA wasn’t for everyone, but as they put out more albums, the scope of the lyrical content went from huge themes to more personal songs. I enjoyed both sides of them, but as they went on, I feel like they became more friendly for people looking for more Blink-type stuff. I really liked the +44 album too, but I also feel it was the jumping off point to this Simple Creatures shit
Great historical analysis. There's a lot of pop punk I can listen to casually, but one band I've always come back to is Sum 41 primarily because they experimented with heavier territory compared to their pop punk "basically Blink 182" beginnings (skate punk / melodic hardcore on Does This Look Infected, alt/heavy metal on Chuck, post-hardcore-ish stuff on Screaming Bloody Murder).
I honestly believe that pop punk isn’t dead yet. A lot of modern punk bands that you mentioned (i.e. TSSF, Knuckle Puck, Neck Deep, State Champs, Real Friends, With Confidence, Waterparks) came out with really good albums in 2018 that didn’t seem to stray too far from their original sound. I’ve seen more people at my high school wearing pop punk band merch and I definitely think that a lot of modern rap songs are reminiscent of old emo, punk bands.
Aqrol State Champs and With Confidence released some great music in 2018. With Confidence released a fully-plugged version of Without Me that is really good too. I’d check out Sleep On It, their album Overexposed is super good and they’re working on a new album now.
Most of those bands are shit now, only band with a good album was TSSF. I use to be a die hard fan of knuckle puck and real friends now their music has changed and is more pop thank punk and not in a good way. Specially when going to shows they are not the same specially with all these clingy fan girls around
Maybe it's just me, but I'll take poorly played guitars, drums, and bass with off-tune vocals any day over some kid sitting on his computer punching buttons and turning autotune up to 11. Pop punk was a lot of things, but for the most part at least it felt real. I still buy every NFG album the day it comes out
Best comment ever. I live in metro Denver, it's all about fucking EDM here. I even make electronic music, but I do it on a keyboard and it's more ambient. The sounds of EDM in Colorado are(shockingly)bad. Dubstep gets dumber and dumber, while gaining popularity at the same time. And fuck Marshmello, that guy is a dweeb.
Man, I agree, I'm an aspiring musician in junior high and this is exactly how I feel, me and my band are trying to bring back pop punk/ I guess what you could call emo, and we have two guitarists, one drummer, and I'm vocals, so I'm getting exactly what you mean, and I'd rather we got rid of most techno/dubstep, it's got nothing really good, only good band that came out of it was Starset, and they're more rock than techno, but they use a bit of tech, but basically, I'm just agreeing with you and hoping my band hits it big and brings back the genre
I find the notion that today's "soundcloud rappers" or whatever one calls them would have been pop punk/emo/hardcore kids when I was in high school to be utterly fascinating. Ever consider doing a video solely on that development and how it came about socio-culturally-speaking? It just strikes me as wholly counterintuitive - by the time I was in late middle school ('97/'98) rap was already the "in" thing. By the time I was in high school ('01-'05), rap's place as the preeminent pop culture music was already well established. But we hated it. That's why we were little suburban punk kids. Fundamentally we were rockers (we liked loud, distorted, and live guitar-based music) and we were all alienated by what was cool and popular for a variety of reasons. I can't believe anyone who truly loves or lives the rock n' roll life could go from punk shows to making electro-mumble-singing (because let's be honest, most of these cats can't actually rap well) in their parents' basement and be satisfied about that.
Rap/hiphop and the whole scene was a lot different in the 80s and 90s. Very innovative, fun, rebellious, a true counter culture. There was even overlapping interest from punk bands. The Beastie Boys started off as a hardcore band. Once it became mainstream by the late 90s, it changed for the worst and that's been the case since. The whole trap/emo trap/soundcloud rap phenomenon is just a teen trend that will fade away soon. It appeals to young people like punk and hiphop did in the 80s, 90s, and 00s. It's comparatively much easier to jump into compared to trying to form a band and start making quality original music, a process that can take years before you're noticed.
I think the main problem is that it's actually very artificial and excessively edgy, not really relatable for most people. How many young people have face tattoos? Or 20 somethings dress like they mixed up random shit from Hot Topic and luxury brand stores? Most people can't afford the latter yet wearing punked out luxury brands is a major part of the image. The music also does not talk about anything other than hard drugs and for emo trap, exaggerated romantic conflicts and glorifying suicide. As bad as the opioid issue is, it's not like most young people are on them and a bunch of other drugs on top of that and young adults care a lot about shit going on in the world, yet those songs do not touch on any of that.
I was born in 2001, definitely too late to enjoy the glory days of pop punk, however it's one of the genres I love the most. Despite being surrounded by modern rap (I don't even know how to label it anymore), I just can't get into that genre, it doesn't have nearly the same vibe to me even though its target audience is apparently the same as that of pop punk 15-20 years ago.
Young Blood, check out Americana by Offspring, And Out Come the Wolves by Rancid, and Third Eye Blind's self-titled debut if you haven't yet...definitely brings some context to the incredible music that follows
I was born 2001 and I grew up to hear this stuff. There was Simple Plan and Sum 41 etc. One of my favorite games as a kid in 2007, the Surf's Up game on ps2, introduced me to more pop punk.
Finn, I’m impressed once again at how accurate this is, down to the specific years. I am 32 and in 1999 I got into the pop punk life. For the next 5 years it was bleached hair, blink-182 shirts, Rancid shows, etc Then in 2004 I discovered hardcore and it was all over for me and I became really serious for awhile.
I remember when good Charlotte was coming up.. and there was some awards show, I think arsenio hall hosted? but he announced good charlotte and said "and now we introduce 'good Charlotte', who is basically a knock off of blink 182. take it away guys" and I did a spit take with my beer.. it was the funniest thing I ever heard..
this was a very accurate assessment. thank you for making a quality video and documenting it like a historian but presenting it in a very entertaining and informative manner. cheers
And here I am.. 33 years old.. watching this looking down and realizing, still all I wear is Famous stats and straps and DC gear with all my music on my phone being the pop punk early - mid 2000's and 2010 era lol. The struggle to find jeans to go with big tongued DC's is real. Its all too tight.. Oh and I still use a Tom Delonge strat lol
@@MathewBroadway I tried a real nice pair on a year or 2 ago in a DC shop and I just said to the guy "sorry mate, these are way to skinny" he replied "and they are the loose fit" lol
Soundcloud rappers couldn't figure out power chords on guitar, so they sample songs from bands that only used power chords, and mumble rap over it. These are dark times we live in... Kudos for talking about Cynic in your videos! Cheers.
guitarplayer203 That wasn’t their point. Regardless of one’s tastes in music, it is simply a fact that contributing to the world of SoundCloud Rap et al takes notably less effort and ‘DIY ethic’ than the likes of Pop-Punk or Hardcore, if not any style that requires acoustic instruments, for that matter.
Yeah it's some pretty rubbish music imo. There is a legit study though that proved music is getting objectively worse the more it evolves into newer genres.
From a kid who listens to a lot of this rap (along with metal & hardcore) that has in the past year picked up a guitar to start a band inspired by the hip hop almost as much as the metal - this video is dead eye accurate
Finn, I honestly think this is your best video so far. Being the prime age for the glory years and being obsessed with every band on the Drive Thru Records rosta made me the person I am today. I’ve played in pop punk bands ever since I learnt drums and personally I think the genre is still strong. With labels like Hopeless, Fearless and a few others, there are plenty of bands keeping the genre alive. It’s never going to be like the glory days but every genre has it’s time to shine. Thanks for a great video dude 👍🏻
I loved pop punk thats why I'm back making it and at 216K subscribers on youtube do u think its coming back ? My lastv4 songs are poppunk cause my views on youtube are insane
The crust/anarcho punks? They are their own scene and incredibly tribalistic. Like, if you didn't put on the full costume, they wouldn't take you seriously. They really didn't mix in much with the other punk scenes. Not that everyone that listened to that music was like that. I listened to some anarcho bands myself but no way I'd go full crust punk, dressing like a max max character and only listening to shitty crust bands just to fit in.
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What happened to ska punk?
What killed ska punk?
endorsed by Fantano. You BIG TIME now!
1m15sec into the BMTH Amo review.
Rap sucks!!!
@16:50 you said part 6 and it says part 7. :D
It all died when they stopped making good Tony Hawk's Pro Skater games...
Geoff Brown yeah underground 2 was the last good one
@@hi1000ish big facts
thats kind of true xD
hah, those games nearly derailed Deftones. They spent more time in the studio playing Pro Skater than they did recording White Pony.
Damn, that's accuracy
Guess as Sum 41 predicted:
We all became casualties of society and fell in line.
no, I'm forever just another reject. SUM 41 FOR LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!
Funny thing is, the 2019 Sum 41 album is excellent.
the funny thing is. we all became what we most despised because its called growing up. unfortunately if you dont fall in line, unless you are VEERY lucky, you will be living on the street. try turning 40 and refusing to work, turning up your nose to capitalism and refusing to "grow up". Yeah, youre living on the street. but that was the best part about being a punk as a kid. you didnt have any hopes or desires to be the way we end up being. as opposed to the kids (preppies) who looked up to the adults and the world and couldn't wait to become successful. they robbed themselves of their youth... and thats much much worse than "falling in line" when you become an adult.
South Central L.A. Are you ready to rock!
@@ug6074 Sum 41!!
You forgot this band or that band
What are you doing here? This place is for legends only 😉
Hello, you absolute legend. How in the blue hell could he forget THAT band?
What about those bands?
Hey look at this absolute legend
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I'm mostly a brutal death metal fan but I will never stop loving pop punk bands from the mtv era. I am still a HUGE Sum 41 fan and will never be ashamed of it
And you never should be ashamed of it
Oh yeah pop punk was so fun during the peak mtv era.
I too am a metal head whose a giant sum 41 fan.
I feel like pop punk will always pull at people’s heart strings. Especially those who grew up with it around the 2000’s. Those were some awesome times though.
Anna Bel I’m 29 and I agree
I think it can be revived with the retrowave movement like pop with synthesizers and a lot of bass like 80's are today, but it will take some time.
I agree. During that time, I was way more into Nu-Metal, but I listened to pop punk too, specially Blink 182. A couple of years later, thanks to the internet, I got a hold of some Good Charlotte, Offspring, Green day and Sum41 songs and I really loved them. Great soundtrack for the teenage years
Im 13 in 2019 favorite music
for real though, it was fun music.
And now were just old dudes and gals wearing blink 182 shirts and pretending to be edgy with a 9 to 5 job
Yep
I relate to this so much it hurts
With my blink 182 tattoo... way to relatable 😩😩😩
Nori CanadianEh fuck ya.. I’ll still get fucked up and make bad decisions lol
No one's edgy anymore, they're all too woke.
Dear Pop Punk:
I miss you
I miss you
Where are you?
And I‘m so sorry
i cannot sleep
i cannot dream tonight
Blink 182 💕💕
pop punk killed rock.
Blink 182 sucked ass.
Johnny Boy under metal and rock’s boot, where it belongs
rock was cool untill pop punk and then pop punk ruined everything.
Breaks my heart because Pop Punk is my absolute favorite thing in the world.
Who were ur favs?
facts
@Mason Watkins I just discovered it at 20 y/o and I absolutely love it
It’s coming back
@@Grind2Excellence not really. A few mainstream artists make one pop punkish album isn’t a genre revival.
I’m 37. This is all I still listen to in my cargo shorts.
with your sketchers too lol ,, chillen next to your bbq with a beer
High five.
I'm sorry.
Word. I'm about to turn 35, and you can still occasionally see me out in the street in front of my house, wearing some black cargo pants, and doing stunts with either my skateboard or RC car. Some things never change...
Oh man when I saw the beginning of this vid it got a little worried, when I saw the exact Dickies and Hurley shirt I still own and wear.
1. Myspace died
2. No more Tony Hawk games
3. Avril married that Sum 41 vocalist
Didn't they broke up????
@@TheNeromethod then she married that Nickelback dude
@@Manamius and they also broke up
MTV had a lot of pop punk cultural icons that also disappeared like Rob Dierdeck, Bam, Jackass. Those died with skateboarding culture.
@@Manamius wtf
What killed Pop-Punk? It's simple really, the same thing that kills everything: Time.
Yup. But let's be thankful that pop punk had the run it did, from about 1994-2009. It had a much longer time in the sun than many genres/subgenres did.
Well, and the people who made pop punk are all AT LEAST middle aged now. Young people like music made by other young people and the sound tends to change along with that.
@@yellowpinkgreengreen That's not unique to pop-punk/emo-pop, that's also pretty common with rock music in general. Rock as a whole seems to now be perceived as the music of dads, grandpas, annoying hipsters, and old washed up has-beens.
@@Interestingenough4 Every generation is like that though. For example, you don't see teenagers listening to doowop because that's grandpa music. It's definitely not just a punk problem.
@@yellowpinkgreengreen Precisely.
Simple Plan still speaks to this 32 year old "just a kid"
I still blast Simple Plan's songs in our gym's loud speakers and teenagers and early 20's kids love it. They bop their heads and stomp their feet on it while working out. Pop punk will always appeal to young people because it sounds young.
Simple plan is the worst stupid band ever...fucking grow up!
Falou tudo magrao
Tik Tok.hahaha
@@tiago.rasskazchic They're not bad. You just don't like them
Some of us are divorcing the girl that just to work at Jamba Juice
Too real
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Felipe Puerta 😂😂😂
yo this is wayyyyyy to real right here
Pop punk is a timeless genre to me. I never get tired of it. THE STARTING LINE IS ONE OF MY ALL GOATS. As a 23 year blink fan, I will never stop listening to pop punk
Blink doesnt like you for 23 years of fun
Ywss I don't think it died at all I go to shows Ll the time and buyerch still literallye and all my friends still fuq with pop punk...right now sadboi rap is popular but there's always something that's the most popular at the moment but doesn't mean. It's dead.
good on ya! here's me trying to revive the beloved genre: th-cam.com/video/VU8sHhojhas/w-d-xo.html
The lead singer of The Starting Line has a couple of other projects that are also great. Vacationer and Person L are both almost equal to The Starting Line.
@@HotStrange Thanks man, I love TSL. I'll check these out!
it sounds like what you're saying is the pop-punkers pop punked the pop punk out of pop punk
Fuck.
@@CyferPerez777 punk*
Nice!
Honestly, (and I've thought ALOT about this lately), I feel like we love pop punk still because of the era it was a part of. 1995-2007 were some of the greatest times to be an American kid growing up a normal life. School, girls, sports, flip phones, etc. It was just good. The internet was there but didn't control us and social media was still in its infancy, therefore not really giving people a voice who did NOT need to have a voice lol There was a laid back, optimistic outlook on life that was pervasive all around. Everything changed starting in 2008. Media content (like movies, music, etc.) became driven by social agendas, social media and smart phones split us apart, and it's only gotten worse. This music reminds me of what it was like to be a kid in a golden age -- I miss it.
I always mark 2008 as the end of the 2000s and the start of a transitional time, and 2009 is just WEIRD in my memory. Such a strange year imo. But yeah, 2003-2007 were my personal prime years I’d say. 1997-99 were important to me too, but solely because of Titanic mania lol.
and fast furious exploded the tuner scene
Oh God, shut up! You just sound like another fuckin drama queen. It was no golden age. It was just when you were young and oblivious.
@@brittanybutlermusic you're stupid
@Le Femme Lolita has got a helluva point. it's less about the time and more about your age at the time. i could give you a paragraph like that about the mid to late '90s, because that's when i was old enough to have fun and young enough to lack responsibilities, but it didn't run all the way to 2007. by then i was paying off student loans on a retail paycheck and wondering when my life was going to take off.
I think its good that punk rock and rock is not all that mainstream, we can maybe go back to the time when you found your new favorite band at local shows.
Punks not dead, its just back at square one...your backyard shows at dive bars and just strait up local shows. SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL SCENE
Unfortunately this gen is producing laziness and a beat scene. ( Baltimore anyways ) but I do agree with you in theory
And 2020 killed the live show and soon there will be no venues left...
Hmm that'd be cool
We actually had a small venue behind my high school where we would do hardcore shows. $10 to get in and it was a free for all. Met so many great bands in person and got to play with my band on that stage once. Nothing better than the local scene.
@@j.c.k9922 lol dude producing actually worthwhile beats(Mac Miller swimming or circles are both perfect albums) is infinitely harder than producing a simple 2 verse 2 chorus 1 bridge and solo music. I've been playing melodeath and black metal which are arguably much harder than rock and shit is child's play compared to making complex beats.
Also, listen to Kendrick Lamar's To Pimp a Butterfly like dude boomer mindset
I’m gonna say part of why the second pop of pop punk didn’t blow up is because we live in an era where culture isn’t homogenized. Back in the 90s, you didn’t have Spotify or the internet to stream music. If you were a band, you NEEDED a label to get your music out there. Either that or hustle mad hard touring on your own selling physicals in every down. Everyone knew the same music because everyone listened to the radio and everyone got their music from stores like FYE or local record stores.
Now, in the 2010s, stores like FYE don’t exist because nobody has to rely on them to find new music. Nobody listens to the radio they listen to what is on Spotify or what they can stream. Now normies will play what Spotify tells them which is what’s popular for the most part, but people who are in the “alternative” have a world of bands putting out their own music that’s equally as accessible as Any top artist these days are, and there’s so many bands and artists doing that, where do you even begin? Music has become so personal. Labels aren’t really necessary anymore with the internet, I think if we had the same conditions as the 90s (aka no internet) we would’ve had some label invest in newer pop punk bands
ALSO piggybacking on homogenized culture, in the 90s and early 2000s you had things like bands being featured in movies and tv shows that spread their popularity, but now with the internet and streaming culture, kids don’t go home and watch MTV or Nickelodeon and come back talking about the new episode they saw. Now they stream what’s on Netflix or whatever other platform. You can choose to watch whatever so shows aren’t a thing everyone watches unless they’re the big ones. And with everyone obsessed with reboots, we aren’t really getting original shows that EVERYBODY and their mother watches, we just have a bunch of semi-successful shows and movies that a good amount of people see
Wow sorry for the paragraphs haha
Ska Tune Network there absolutely was the internet in the 90s along with stream services like limewire and Napster.
MP3 than Napster started in 99 though and than limewire but I think limewire was 00s
But I’m just messing with you and know what you mean
I loved those times. Those times was a much better time
Lilly And Dans Beard Product Reviews yeah hahaha I meant the internet as we know it at least. Or internet culture. I remember the struggle of Napster and limewire to find music
Ska Tune Network lmao I remember how it took literally what seemed like days to download something and that was if someone didn’t call your house phone and kick you off your dial up internet lmao
Scrolling down the page to get it to refresh faster hahaha
AOL chat lmao
Man kids just don’t know the struggle haha
Ska Tune Network for the record my fav band (it’s a three way tie) is sublime.
I know some don’t consider it true ska
"Real" punk rock may be "better", but Sum 41 and the Offspring had tons of great stuff and people still love 'em :)
New Sum 41 songs are great
The turning point was when they released “Does this look infected?” Because their sound matured a ton and started showing a lot of their influences from 80s hard rock and heavy metal.
jo hn That album and Chuck help the redefine their style and right now I’ve been loving what they are doing
don't put offspring in that category. they were pretty commercial, but have been around for a long time. and did make decent music
Karen Sanders go eat a tide pod
Maybe it’s just because I was in the thick of it, but the Emo Takeover was MASSIVE and “older” bands like Green Day successfully crossed over into it (aesthetically, for sure) with American Idiot and were bigger than ever! I think GD is a good measure of how pop-punk actually *did* remain super relevant until 2007-ish. They were coasting on American Idiot from 04-07 and once that wore off, so did pop-punk in general. Everything started changing in 2008. The flagship Emo Takeover bands like Fall Out Boy and Panic! released their “experimental” albums that year and it was all over after that lol.
Facts.
Green Day def made it through. I would say sum 41 and blink 182 somehow survived but not like Green Day
Actually you are so true abt everything
Panic isnt emo though its post hardcore.
@@TheBroLounge how in the world is panic posthardcore
Pop-Punk revival will be big in the 2030s
Saint Bukowski time traveler?
oh god lets not
April 2031
Saint Bukowski 2020s
Yeah when the Pop-Punk kids all have their own kids
Still friggin obsessed at nearly 28. I don’t wanna grow up lol
Please don't, this world doesn't need you tricking someone into helping you reproduce
@@DerekMattson dude went from zero to Edge Lord real quick. I'm impressed.
You and me both
I'm 30 and same lol
I think all of us around that age feel the same way.
I still jam Blink 182 all the time. Hot damn did I ever love that era!
Same
I'm in a weird space with Blink, I am currently listening to Angels & Airwaves more than them. But i'm still jamming to Sum 41. It was a really good era.
I cannot stand the new blink 182 without tom deLonge. its an embarrassment. I like AVA better anyways..
Josh Herbert I don’t really mind the new Blink to be honest, but it’s definitely not magical like the older stuff was
I just went to blink show in Las vegas traveled from ny mainly for that show
Oh how I wish I grew up in the early 2000’s, being an edgy teenage skater boi, listening to these awesome bands! like, i love this style of music!!
you can listen to that music and watch those movies and voila you're there
It's was great
I was a teen in the 2000s it was the best time of my life and music was great.
We never said boi
You can still do that! ❤
Wow this is so accurate, I was born in 85, and as a black kid in middle and high school I caught so much shit for enjoying pop punk and later on emocore sounds. Bands like Brand New, Taproot, and Dashboard Confessional defined my senior year of high school.
You just made me laugh. We used to say punk and hardcore died in 1985. I'm not mocking you at all. I just feel real fucking old right now.
Yeah, black culture definitely hates blacks that “act white.”
Yeah, I kinda wish the mosh pit was more ethnic.
@@sloppynyuszi same, I feel sad cause even if I do find someone who has the same music taste as me in real life. They will probably be White and there will always be that cultural divide type of thing
cant wait till this new trend of mainstream music dies, excited for whatever comes next.
I mean if you think about it "Mainstream" will always be a trend by default.
Lo-fi mumble rap is starting to become mainstream. The sad boy music, its horrifying
A Rock agreed.
Benjamin Wadley that’s what I said
The Lawnmower Ix. 091 bro let’s be honest maybe if actual effort was being put into modern rock, punk, and metal then what you call “emo rap” wouldn’t have to step in. I fucking love punk rock but I’ve seen maybe three total good new bands pop up in the last decade and don’t even get me started on the state of metal.
Can't believe you forgot this band....AND THAT BAND
And that other one!!! That i actually did mention
normie lmao jk
Oh no, you even forgot that band my older brothers friend played with that's only well known in my city that one had a slight hit on Alternative radio in like 2002 that nobody remembers
dude, wtf! I just found your channel and I'm probably not going to sleep for the next few days marathoning all of your videos.
Thanks man!
I’m 37 and still relate to Homegrown lyrics. 😬
Same! You're not alone!
@@letterfella I see what you did there.
I do too, but I'm 33.
Dude they were amazing, I dint really understand why they didnt catch on to more fame
I’m 34 and was listening to the starting line today!
Pop punk was one of those genres that were widely enjoyed by a large audience. It has a special place in the hearts of anyone who went to middle school, high school, or college at some point during the 90s/00s. :D
So true. Nu metal and pop punk was the shit back then - sad to see that those styles now have almost completely died out. Those were my youth.
@@torstenscholz6243I entered middle school in 2008. I feel lucky to have caught even just the very tail end of it, the "Gives You Hell" or "21 Guns" era. hahaha
@@devonasprer5308yeah same here I was 13 in 2005 and I remember getting blinks greatest hits album. New found glory’s 2004 album was the first for me and early 2000s I was listening to all the punk music in all of the tony hawk games. My older brother introduced me to 90s punk. It was an amazing time
@@ChrisMacal even though I am 27 I still enjoy pop punk bands like blink 182. Sum 41 NFG paramoor it shouldn't matter how old you are if you still like pop punk that's awesome I also like a band called Belmont to
As an old dude who wouldn't have survived the disco hell of the late 70's if I hadn't discovered the Ramones, Sex Pistols and New York Dolls, I couldn't have been happier with the rise of pop punk in the late 90s. I taught my son how to play guitar during that time, and it was one of the coolest times of my life being able to play fun, fast music with him; learning and playing songs by MxPx, the Ataris and many more while sharing the punk tunes I grew up on. Great video - I still listen to a lot of these bands.
Love that attitude!
TOTALLY!: check out my amateur pop-punk tune: th-cam.com/video/VU8sHhojhas/w-d-xo.html
I loved pop punk that why I'm back making it and at 216K subscribers on youtube do u think its coming back ? My lastv4 songs are poppunk
Pop punk is arguably one of the most influential rock genres in the history of rock. Even to this day, Twentyone Pilots, Panic at the Disco, Billie Eillish, Fever 333, a lot of the metalcore bands, etc., still base their music in the mid to late 90’s pop punk ethos.
Yeah 21 pilots (and sadly MGK) remind of 2000s pop-punk even though they dont sound like one.
Accurate
I loved pop punk that why I'm back making it and at 216K subscribers on youtube do u think its coming back ? My lastv4 songs are poppunk
Anyone remember ....SUGARCULT??!?!?
Memory!
Stuck in America
Start Static is a great album
One more song for the RADIO STATIONNNNN
Pretty girl is suffering ;(
I miss 2005 😢 blink, fall out boy, good charlotte, new found glory...Halo 2 on the OG Xbox live on a tiny CRT TV, getting CCS catalogs in the mail, only thing I had to worry about was school.....
You had me at CRTs and CCS!
The Punk Rock MBA dude those were the days!! I still regularly try to make it out to pop punk shows as much as I can I'm excited to see where the genre goes from here.
Good charlotte released an album last year (2018) heres one of my faveourite songs from it th-cam.com/video/fZWxelCdAnk/w-d-xo.html enjoy😀
facttss my guyy those were the days, how I fucking miss them.
Shheeeet man. Good year for me. Senior year, dated girl who is now my wife. Freakin Halo man. Good times.
I'm 34 and never stopped listening to Sum41, Green Day and even Blink 182 among others. Maiden and Priest were the gods that we praised.
Cause we like having fun at other peoples expense
aside from greenday, no grown man should be listening to that crap. 90s epitaph records was the best time for REAL punk music. not these little bitches who paint their nails black and think they're punk rocker.
Green Day isn’t punk at all just a bunch of sellouts.
I lived for Sum 41
Never understood the hate sum41 got.
I refuse to be too cool to admit Good Charlotte was my childhood. Admittedly they don't end up in my speakers today as much as blink, green day, and mcr but still...
This video accurate af! Glad I lived through through these eras!
Unwritten law was way underrated. 1999-2005 was right in my formative years. What a great video!
Austin Shappi agreed. I’m not sure if blink would’ve even existed without UL.
Austin Shappi You know what’s funny. I love unwritten law, but never thought of them as pop-punk. But I guess they were closer to bands like blink-182 than NOFX, Lagwagon, or No Use For A Name(some of the bands I usually lumped them in with).
They got unfairly played off as corny, for some reason. Still dont understand
Yes they definitely were
When we drank surge, played n64, and watched the rock vs stone cold.
good times!
And TRL every day during summer break
AUSTIN 3:16 😂
"I used to be with it, but then they changed what it was. Now what I'm with isn't it, and what's it seems weird and scary to me, and it'll happen to you, too."
Another great one man. As a twist for a future episode, instead of "what killed..." would be interesting to get a "what will kill..." - You've gone deep enough on so many genres and their fall from grace, it would be interesting to develop a video on your hypothesis on what will kill a genre that is peaking right now (rap as an example [it won't die obviously, but it'll make way for something else]). 10/10 again finny!
That's a sick idea
I like where your head is at man!
Rap definitely not. But I can see trap peaking.
WHAT KILLED POP-PUNK? "They didn't create more teenmovies so there was no need anymore for this typ of music
Ha, I guess that was its purpose.
True kkkk
A complete, comprehensive video with some outstanding analysis. Finn never disappoints, man.
Nate The Mate you never disappoint either Nate!
You never disappoint me
Oh btw you forgot to mention Grayscale's actual first album 'Leaving' in your video on them, Just putting that out there.
Zechariah Angel love you mate
You'll be the next Jarrod Allonge.
Aesthetic aside, good Charlotte is actually one hell of a band. They are so good live. Tight, completely on time and synced up (would’ve be surprised if they play to a click these days) and vocals sound like their records. Spot on.
Chronicles Of Life And Death fucking rules. "Mountain" is a borderline metal song.
saw them on the warped tour rewind cruise. Very solid even to this day
What was wrong with their Aesthetic?
@@IceBreakBottle nothing that’s just a reason a lot of people hate on them. Some people see what a band looks like or their general vibe (merch designs, album covers etc) and write them off. It’s bogus but i made reference to the context of the video and how they’re actually a very good band, even though some people won’t give their tunes the time of day
they're also responsible for avenged sevenfold being in the mainstream W
This is one of the best channels on TH-cam covering music. Keep up the great work.
I loved pop punk thats why I'm back making it and at 216K subscribers on youtube do u think its coming back ? My lastv4 songs are poppunk
It isn't dead. It's very well alive inside. 🤘
In our hearts :')
@@siegpasta that's right!
@@shawnkurtisTV 🤘🤘🤘
@Stop speeding try listen to Neck Deep. They are good band..
Stop speeding Teenage Bottlerocket, The Bombpops, Masked Intruder, Off With Their Heads, The Loved Ones.
The simple days....when Fall Out Boy was actually good. and every teenage crush was Haley Williams. and oh man the hardcore/emo phase....Underoath?? silversteinn? Taking back sunday?? Such simple times
Its like when I was a teenager I had wished that I got to grow up in the 60s or 70s or even 80s...Now were all grown up and we have our own little piece of history to remember :) Soon kids will be saying ''maaan i wish i could have grown up in the late 90s/early 2000s...''
Hell yeah. Silverstein is still around! Shane Told is the shit, anything that dude does is gold. I can't name you one song or album that isn't fire.
I’ll never pass up a Silverstein/Underoath concert when they come around even now. I’ll miss the way shows used to be but meeting people who still jam to their music is awesome.
@@HollowOath14 I feel you. Bayside concerts are great too. It's great when you know by the time you leave you'll have a bunch of new friends.
Wdym? I still have a crush on Hayley Williams. She gets better and better as the years go on my man.
First off, I love your content. Unbiased and true to the music. My only requiem to the later years of pop punk that you didn’t touch on, at least in this video, I plan to watch many more… Was the New Jersey/ New York involvement in melodic hardcore!! Bands like Kid Dynamite, Paint It Black, Lifetime, basically all bands with Dan Yemen, was such a huge influence for my love of what I consider pop punk! Not to mention bands like Daggermouth, Shook Ones, Good Clean Fun.. These guys defined a genre to me… I’d love to hear your take on Daggermouth, and or Set Your Goals! Again, I love your content, and will be watching MUCH more! Thank you!!
Thanks for watching!
I think rock music will never burn out. It‘s just too authentic. Picking up a guitar, writing a song about how you feel, showing that song to a drummer or a bassist. Getting creative together and giving your creativity and personality into THAT song. And it gets even more authentic from there.
Like i dont think people understand how big this genere was. It wasn't uncommon for black kids like me to have these songs in the mix with outkast 3 6 mafia and pastor troy. Tony hawk pro skater and MTV really did a good job marketing these bands. And you could see all of them on warped tour for cheap was the best part.
Best times ever honestly! I grew up in the hood but all my friends who only liked hip hop even knew the words to All Downhill From Here by New Found Glory haha pop punk was HUUUGE in the 2000s!
hahaha hell yeah, Pastor Troy
Same, a lot of my peers would sing Sum-41 randomly in class
@@eh2396 my feelings. Are we the "normals?" then the normals were the ones that made the golden age of punk, go to a NFG or TBS show and its freaking beautiful to see the mix of people. like nothing else. thats why they were cool because they were inclusive
The quality of your work with these videos is absolutely fantastic! Would love to see a What Killed Ska Video
Yes brother
YES YES YES
Ska killed ska
Or better yet, how was Ska ever a thing :)
But ska isn't dead..... JK it's dead rip please do a video
All, Descendants. Two of my first bands, and ones I saw. Going back further, Ramones, Stiff Little Fingers, The Clash. So good. From the era you’re describing, so many: Face to Face, No Use For A Name, Propaghandi, Tilt, Rancid, Green Day, Blink 182, Lagwagon, MxPx, Bad Religion, Pennywise, The Offspring,.....then Ska-punk like Less Than Jake, Reel Big Fish, Goldfinger, The Mr. T Experience. Mighty Mighty Bosstones. So many good memories!!
Sadboy rap is the new pop-punk. Kinda makes sence.
Sense*
[Psychonymphsia Ultravistous] funny how we address new gens music like ho w our parents addresses ours
[Psychonymphsia Ultravistous] woah there, i just address how your comment sounds like how my mom would often say about the songs i listen to, no matter what genre it is unless i play something that is from her generation. i dont want a mindless word of war withyou because of some music im not interested in the first place. my advise to you listen to something that you like and stay away from videos like this it makes you passivd aggressive
[Psychonymphsia Ultravistous] funny how minds process things you read, i write my comments without any agenda and you interpreted it like im attacking you in any way shape or form. lol as ive said i aint gonna engage in a word of war with you, ill just enjoy my day. im not gonna try to be poetic or anything either coz that will change nothing, if you have issues with the music scene then keep it to your self weve got so much more problems than music. listen to what you like regardless of what people think of it
[Psychonymphsia Ultravistous] i couldve easily engage with you within this topic but i decided id rather not, not because im not knowledgable enough to share my opinion in this subject matter, i opted out for the somple reason that my comment is just as harmless as a newborn kitten that you very well manage to blow out of proportion. i wont engage you in any fancy talk about whats right or wrong. i dont even get why would you waste your time preaching to me things you stand for, for just a simple comment lol.
I just came across your channel... and I am so glad I did. Quickly becoming one of my favorites. Keep up the good work!
Teddy? man when two worlds collide...lol
This video is a very accurate analysis of this change in mainstream music. I’ll never understand how the early 2000’s emo Music is made fun of by kids, yet juice wrld has the same whiny vocals and even cringier emo lyrics but kids love him cause he uses a trap beat instead of guitars and drums. To me there’s not really much of a difference besides that to these seemingly different music genres.
Do not insult emo music like that
Cranky biker not meant to be an insult and personally I think the older emo is superior, but I don’t think anyone can deny the similarities between songs like I miss you by Blink and Lucid Dreams by Juice Wrld.
John Kuchler their ears dont work. Their brains dont process and understand. Deaf dumb blind n born to follow. Fuck this new generation
@@Trippin710 lol fuckin cry more dude
My thoughts exactly.
Literally all the overlooked bands were some of my favorites, thank you for shouting out Homegrown, Fenix TX, Rufio, The Starting Line, etc!
"generation grew up and switched over to hardcore and indy rock" nailed it man
as far as the transition from pop punk to emo, one major driving factor was the fact pop punk bands grew up as well. Blink 182's self titled was arguably a major influence on the growth of emo bands; Sum-41's Chuck and later on Underclass Hero complimented this transition too.
The All-American Rejects could serve as an example of this transition too, being associated with both emo and pop punk.
AAR's more pop rock/power pop though
I guess so. Pop-punk is all about fun and teenage reckless abandon. Once those bands grew up, they didn't relate to the genre anymore I guess. Pop-punk always reminds me of skaters, jackass show, and fun mtv music videos. Whereas emo and other genres of rock music is more relatable to a larger audience.
Being born in 94 I definitely was spoiled with pop punk golden age and also metalcore on the rise. Love both genres
90 here. 03-08 was some of the greatest times of my life and all my memories had these tracks in the background.
Ty Bradshaw 90 as well, god I miss good music. Now it’s about fucking bitches and taking drugs....
Born in 95 and yeah, I listened to all the metalcore, pop punk (especially easycore) and post hardcore. I still listen to it for nostalgia and makes me super happy.
You can remember the golden age while being an infant?
@[Psychonymphsia Ultravistous] Haha blows my mind that kids born in the mid 90s think they experienced pop punk and the like, they were literally babies shitting in their dipers
I'm 21 and pop-punk will always be in my heart. Green Day fan over here.
Ame Carranza98 same
Same here
Rap killed everything. It even killed R&B. Ninetys me would have never said this but I miss white boy music. We need balance and options.
Rap became the new pop music man..i went to an all white school and country was the biggest genre at my school till Wayne dropped the Carter 3.EVERYONE was on that album in my town. He made rap what it is today unfortunately
It's to a point where troll rapping can make you famous...smh
@@slick_grimes7121 Carter 3 definitely started and Gucci and Waka further cemented it once they got big shortly after in 08-09. Carter 3 is when the N word went universal. First time I ever heard a white guy use the n word in person was around 08.
@@americasmaker is R&B even alive anymore?
@@slick_grimes7121 It is. But it's not huge. Pop punk is still a thing, too. It's just not huge.
pop punk is still alive but in the most diminished form possible and beginning to swing into a new era. i think every band mentioned from that 2011-2015 era (the story so far, the wonder years, state champs, neck deep) is peaking, starting to settle and reach the height of their musical ability. there's very few newer bands that are doing things to push the sound of the genre and instead choosing to emulate what those 2011-2015 bands succeeded with, which granted is very hard in a genre that relies on the same 4 chord progressions over and over.
of course this makes me think that a new era of sorts will begin in the next year or so where we'll see a bunch of newer bands figure out how to break through and breathe some new life into pop punk, most likely using some of those techniques that are so popular in the budding emo rap genre.
Blake McConnell Belmont has been killing it though
Belmont, real friends, bearings, are so fucking good
Belmont is so fucking good.
yes sirrrrr
Grayscale.
The early 2000s was great. I remember listening to Sum 41's song Fat Lip 😂😂
Hearing it on American Pie for the first time and thinking "HOLY FUCK I NEED THE NAME OF THE SONG AND THE BAND".
@Macro Aggressor: The Titty Baby Killer I'm too much I'm sorry😂😂😂
@Macro Aggressor: The Titty Baby Killer Yeah. Im totally aware.😂
The pop punk genre will always have a huge space in my heart and my memories. The days of skateboarding with my friends after school, feeling the surge of energy that ran through me when the newest New Found Glory or Red Jumpsuit Apparatus song came on. I don't really think it died, personally I think if enough fans want it.....it will come back.
Dude I’ve spent two hours straight watching your videos, so glad I found your channel. This shit is so good, thank you for making these
Thanks man!
I'm 27 and i'm still relate to Homegrown lyrics and other similar band. I think there is no age limit, the power of music also consists of this.
VanHeert92 your not alone ... see what I did there
@@riccardolucchesi4101 woah brochacho! who peed in your fish tank this morning??
@@riccardolucchesi4101 Probably yes, but it's better than being an asshole like you who accuses people without explaining reason
@@riccardolucchesi4101 Dal nome dovresti essere italiano, lo sono anch'io. Attendo con ansia una tua spiegazione, son proprio curioso di leggere quante più cazzate possibili riesci ad inventare per giustificare tale fesseria.
Its funny how at the time I loved NOFX, Lagwagon, No Use For a Name, etc. But hated Green Day and Sum 41. Its like Fat Mike hypnotised us all into believing anything popular must be bad. I still dont necessarily like those bands, but I can definitely see how they share the same DNA with some of my favorites.
Exactly
Leo Harper everyone I knew with this mindset back in the day is now in Antifa, working part time at Starbucks with a useless PhD in Lesbian Dance Theory.
@@dasenase Well Im an engineer working for DoD. So I guess I bucked the trend.
in 95' i was at a punk/skin bbq and watched two "hardcore punks" argue about a germs symbol painted on a jacket and talk about hair gel. I later asked if anyone was going to see Rancid next week, and they acted like I was the lamest square on earth. I clearly remember the show and pit being amazing and not giving one shit about how popular they had become.
if you cant hear/see a difference between Lagwagon and Sum 41...
Thanks for mentioning Mest! They’ve been underrated since the beginning
Sum 41 has been my favorite band for 13 years now... never changed- not even in my hip hop phase. So glad they're back
Now they’re metal and show talents, silencing critics
They suck. They're a kids band. Why don't you grow up, you dork?
Le Femme Lolita how about you go listen to Chuck, and their latest album Order in decline before speaking, stupid
@@lefemmelolita4522 toxic
Le Femme Lolita oh dude you’re so cool. Stop shitting on people for enjoying things. Grow up you degenerate
Cant we just leave the girl that works at Jamba Juice alone !?!?
Says the Jamba Juice girl
She... she's into me, I just know it! If I could just think of something to say to her....
Talking 2 the girl at Jamba juice is practically rape these days lol
Hey I’m the girl who works at Jamba Juice and I’ve been waiting for a pop punker to pop my bunker since 2000
@@drumlicks85 gross
Now do *What Killed Emo ?*
Themselves
A razor blade
thenumbersixlookslikeyou There was an Emo revival not to long ago and emo hip hop kind of took over
They killed themselves when they cut their wrists and black their eyes
@@stayskeptic3923 real emo 👍
Loving the fact that you covered bands like Title Fight, Citizen and Tigers Jaw etc.. they were a huge part of my high school experience and still some of my favorite music today.. Awesome vid man!
Pop-punk is where I feel at home. That is all that matters 💛
Remind me of my youth time, when the world is still kind lol
In before Jarrod Alonge.
@@ronan5610 you complete me
Lol.
CIRCLE OF TONE. He lives in my city that ironically has no pop punk scene.
I want the early 2000s pop punk sound to come back.
Flavio Thepianist yes, the sound maybe...but the silly childish lyrics? Nah I'll pass
Check out sum41. They put out a single last week that bangs just as hard as they did in 2001
A Day To Remember is still making songs like that.
@@mpotokar7 Been listening to them since way back man.
Is WSTR close enough? Their new song filthy is pretty weird and a throwback, but it's a banger.
Ridiculously relatable and nostalgic. A great explanation of the what happened from 1994 onward. Really great video!
I loved pop punk that why I'm back making it and at 216K subscribers on youtube do u think its coming back ? My lastv4 songs are poppunk
2010 to 2015 pop punk bands were my absolute favourite, i didn't except this video to go into the whole emo rap trend, but Im really happy you did
Rock is not dead, rock is just kinda "sleeping"? There's still kids like me that starts 1, 2, 100 bands! People just doesn't think that is "as cool as being a rapper".
Rock is far from dead, It's just not popular in the American mainstream.
All over the world rock and metal bands sell miiions of records and play arena shows especially in Europe. Let the kids have their dopehead rapppers, that shit will die eventually because its so over saturated and plastic.
preach!! I'm currently tying to start a band that brings back all the love from 95,02,06 and what not, green day/sum41 style!! also some hints of classic rock like Zeppelin and metallica( for variation) this video gave me hope! maby now is the right time to strike X)!!@@spiderjerusalem100
Yeah, the US is just fucked up and it has a lot to do with the socio-political climate, the Internet, the opioid crisis, and glorification of being rich. Underground rock music is surprisingly popular in Latin America, especially Mexico City, and Germany. In the UK, mellower electronic music still dominates, indie bands, their own brand of r&b and rap (grime). Electronic oriented indie bands with inspiration from the 80s and 60s are popular in France and they also have a strong modern metal scene (Alcest and related bands). Germany is still mostly about techno and electronic but they have plenty of metal bands, some indie bands, their own hiphop scene that is similar to 90s US hiphop. Japan's pop is still mostly stuck in its pop hey day of the late 90s and 00s but the have some really good indie and indie electronic bands and metal has become sort of mainstream there with some of even the most cheesiest pop groups using metal style background music to their songs. Anyway, the point is, trap/soundcloud rap/emo trap is not part of the mainstream culture in most other countries. The US is the exception and as powerful as the US is in projecting its pop culture onto the world, it often does not heavily influence what people in those countries are into.
A lot of good stuff coming out of Australia.
I follow Dreambound and UNFD. They post new videos of new bands all the time. A lot of it is a lot more melodic heavier stuff but it's awesome.
This is not true. Sadly any alternative band is pretty much underground. In Europe trap is big. I can confirm it because I live in Greece. And today's kids listen to all that shit. And it's pretty much the same in any other country .
Enema of the State was one of the first albums I ever bought. Still listen to it to this day!
>achtung baby was 1st album i ever bought #1991biggestyearinmusichistory
This is spot on! Rap is the new Punk and I look forward to having you make a video on me when I blow up
I loved pop punk thats why I'm back making it and at 216K subscribers on youtube do u think its coming back ? My lastv4 songs are poppunk cause my views on youtube are insane
I might be a little biased but I think Box Car Racer were quite influential and before their time. (I'm a huge blink fan)
In hindsight, I wish +44 had recorded a follow up to their debut album. Had Blink stayed together after their 2003 album, I reckon +44 very close to what their next album would've sounded like. It disappoints me that they broke up when they did- that last album of theirs in 2003 was a turning point for them- they suddenly took on a more mature, serious, even dark tone. It could've been the springboard into a new era for them as a group, but then Tom fell out with Mark and Travis and that was it. I bought their 2011 album after they re-grouped, but I could count on a single hand the amount of times I listened to it. Maybe it was just me getting older and my tastes changing, but the songs didn't grab me like they used to.
@@Bennyboy1985 Yeah, I actually really dug "Neighborhoods," but it definitely felt more like Tom and Mark's other bands in the interim combined (Angels & Airwaves meets +44) instead of a natural extension of where they were eight years prior. In contrast, I still can listen to their eponymous 2003 album front to back and marvel at how unique yet recognizably Blink it sounds. The instrumental interludes, vocal samples, and almost spoken-word cadence of lots of the verses feel really ahead of their time, at least for a mainstream band.
@@TrevorNWhite
I much preferred +44 to A&A. It's true that +44 had just that one album vs A&A's two, but whereas both A&A albums mostly sounded like an attempt to recreate U2 circa 'The Joshua Tree' mixed with Christian pop, +44's songs were more...heartfelt. It might have just been the time in my life where I was listening to that album most days, but it felt a lot more relatable to me. Then again, I've always thought Mark does serious songs much better than Tom...
@@Bennyboy1985 A fair stance! I'm in the opposite boat but for the same reasons, though -- I discovered AvA in high school and was super into their spacey sound and dramatic lyrics. +44's stuff was definitely more grounded, but it also wasn't quite as catchy or memorable to me.
Captain Haddock toms best serious song, in my opinion, is from that odds and ends thing. The invisible parade. His accent is gone in that song, and he can actually sing well (nothing against his any song he’s ever sung, as it’s probably the most recognizable voice in pop punk). Also, I feel that early AVA wasn’t for everyone, but as they put out more albums, the scope of the lyrical content went from huge themes to more personal songs. I enjoyed both sides of them, but as they went on, I feel like they became more friendly for people looking for more Blink-type stuff. I really liked the +44 album too, but I also feel it was the jumping off point to this Simple Creatures shit
Great historical analysis. There's a lot of pop punk I can listen to casually, but one band I've always come back to is Sum 41 primarily because they experimented with heavier territory compared to their pop punk "basically Blink 182" beginnings (skate punk / melodic hardcore on Does This Look Infected, alt/heavy metal on Chuck, post-hardcore-ish stuff on Screaming Bloody Murder).
I honestly believe that pop punk isn’t dead yet. A lot of modern punk bands that you mentioned (i.e. TSSF, Knuckle Puck, Neck Deep, State Champs, Real Friends, With Confidence, Waterparks) came out with really good albums in 2018 that didn’t seem to stray too far from their original sound. I’ve seen more people at my high school wearing pop punk band merch and I definitely think that a lot of modern rap songs are reminiscent of old emo, punk bands.
Aqrol State Champs and With Confidence released some great music in 2018. With Confidence released a fully-plugged version of Without Me that is really good too. I’d check out Sleep On It, their album Overexposed is super good and they’re working on a new album now.
Stop speeding you’re just mad that you sit alone at lunch
Stop speeding eat a snickers
I just discovered waterparks. So good
Most of those bands are shit now, only band with a good album was TSSF. I use to be a die hard fan of knuckle puck and real friends now their music has changed and is more pop thank punk and not in a good way. Specially when going to shows they are not the same specially with all these clingy fan girls around
As a teenager td, I’m kinda sad I didn’t get to experience the pop punk era. All it takes is one hyper successful album to bring back the genre tho
I did not expect a Lil B shoutout in a pop punk video, masterful maneuver
Maybe it's just me, but I'll take poorly played guitars, drums, and bass with off-tune vocals any day over some kid sitting on his computer punching buttons and turning autotune up to 11. Pop punk was a lot of things, but for the most part at least it felt real. I still buy every NFG album the day it comes out
Best comment ever. I live in metro Denver, it's all about fucking EDM here. I even make electronic music, but I do it on a keyboard and it's more ambient. The sounds of EDM in Colorado are(shockingly)bad. Dubstep gets dumber and dumber, while gaining popularity at the same time. And fuck Marshmello, that guy is a dweeb.
Man, I agree, I'm an aspiring musician in junior high and this is exactly how I feel, me and my band are trying to bring back pop punk/ I guess what you could call emo, and we have two guitarists, one drummer, and I'm vocals, so I'm getting exactly what you mean, and I'd rather we got rid of most techno/dubstep, it's got nothing really good, only good band that came out of it was Starset, and they're more rock than techno, but they use a bit of tech, but basically, I'm just agreeing with you and hoping my band hits it big and brings back the genre
Nfg to me are pop punk royalty. They not only have put out amazing music for 20 years but they keep inspiring new bands to keep pop punk alive.
@@codyscards6698 Truth
Metcalf, did you serve in the National guard in California?
I find the notion that today's "soundcloud rappers" or whatever one calls them would have been pop punk/emo/hardcore kids when I was in high school to be utterly fascinating. Ever consider doing a video solely on that development and how it came about socio-culturally-speaking? It just strikes me as wholly counterintuitive - by the time I was in late middle school ('97/'98) rap was already the "in" thing. By the time I was in high school ('01-'05), rap's place as the preeminent pop culture music was already well established. But we hated it. That's why we were little suburban punk kids. Fundamentally we were rockers (we liked loud, distorted, and live guitar-based music) and we were all alienated by what was cool and popular for a variety of reasons. I can't believe anyone who truly loves or lives the rock n' roll life could go from punk shows to making electro-mumble-singing (because let's be honest, most of these cats can't actually rap well) in their parents' basement and be satisfied about that.
Rap/hiphop and the whole scene was a lot different in the 80s and 90s. Very innovative, fun, rebellious, a true counter culture. There was even overlapping interest from punk bands. The Beastie Boys started off as a hardcore band. Once it became mainstream by the late 90s, it changed for the worst and that's been the case since. The whole trap/emo trap/soundcloud rap phenomenon is just a teen trend that will fade away soon. It appeals to young people like punk and hiphop did in the 80s, 90s, and 00s. It's comparatively much easier to jump into compared to trying to form a band and start making quality original music, a process that can take years before you're noticed.
I think the main problem is that it's actually very artificial and excessively edgy, not really relatable for most people. How many young people have face tattoos? Or 20 somethings dress like they mixed up random shit from Hot Topic and luxury brand stores? Most people can't afford the latter yet wearing punked out luxury brands is a major part of the image. The music also does not talk about anything other than hard drugs and for emo trap, exaggerated romantic conflicts and glorifying suicide. As bad as the opioid issue is, it's not like most young people are on them and a bunch of other drugs on top of that and young adults care a lot about shit going on in the world, yet those songs do not touch on any of that.
I was born in 2001, definitely too late to enjoy the glory days of pop punk, however it's one of the genres I love the most. Despite being surrounded by modern rap (I don't even know how to label it anymore), I just can't get into that genre, it doesn't have nearly the same vibe to me even though its target audience is apparently the same as that of pop punk 15-20 years ago.
same
Young Blood, check out Americana by Offspring, And Out Come the Wolves by Rancid, and Third Eye Blind's self-titled debut if you haven't yet...definitely brings some context to the incredible music that follows
I was born 2001 and I grew up to hear this stuff. There was Simple Plan and Sum 41 etc. One of my favorite games as a kid in 2007, the Surf's Up game on ps2, introduced me to more pop punk.
@@garyrichmond7404 the offspring is my favorite band ever dude.
Finn, I’m impressed once again at how accurate this is, down to the specific years. I am 32 and in 1999 I got into the pop punk life. For the next 5 years it was bleached hair, blink-182 shirts, Rancid shows, etc Then in 2004 I discovered hardcore and it was all over for me and I became really serious for awhile.
Who said it ever died? It’s still here in our hearts.
yes it is! check out my amateur pop-punk tune: th-cam.com/video/VU8sHhojhas/w-d-xo.html
He's talking about how it died in the mainstream
Pop punk, not pills
Superpaddlefoot no one got that memo haha
Pharmaceutical companies would have to disagree.
Clever
I remember when good Charlotte was coming up.. and there was some awards show, I think arsenio hall hosted? but he announced good charlotte and said "and now we introduce 'good Charlotte', who is basically a knock off of blink 182. take it away guys" and I did a spit take with my beer.. it was the funniest thing I ever heard..
Omg yes it was Chris rock 😂😂 at the vmas and he said they were a rip off of greenday
this was a very accurate assessment. thank you for making a quality video and documenting it like a historian but presenting it in a very entertaining and informative manner.
cheers
And here I am.. 33 years old.. watching this looking down and realizing, still all I wear is Famous stats and straps and DC gear with all my music on my phone being the pop punk early - mid 2000's and 2010 era lol.
The struggle to find jeans to go with big tongued DC's is real. Its all too tight..
Oh and I still use a Tom Delonge strat lol
Etnies and dickies to this day
Just realized I'm wearing a mad caddies shirt too
The jean struggle is real, and when I ask if they have anything not skin tight they look at me like I'm stupid.
@@MathewBroadway I tried a real nice pair on a year or 2 ago in a DC shop and I just said to the guy "sorry mate, these are way to skinny" he replied "and they are the loose fit" lol
Use tapered Dickies or chinos
Soundcloud rappers couldn't figure out power chords on guitar, so they sample songs from bands that only used power chords, and mumble rap over it. These are dark times we live in...
Kudos for talking about Cynic in your videos! Cheers.
Power chords are one of the easiest things on guitar. I'm pretty sure anyone who plays for a week or two can play them.
guitarplayer203 That wasn’t their point. Regardless of one’s tastes in music, it is simply a fact that contributing to the world of SoundCloud Rap et al takes notably less effort and ‘DIY ethic’ than the likes of Pop-Punk or Hardcore, if not any style that requires acoustic instruments, for that matter.
Yeah it's some pretty rubbish music imo. There is a legit study though that proved music is getting objectively worse the more it evolves into newer genres.
@Tre West x stole stole some from adtr the song sad melody sounds similar to one of adtr old song.
Good knowledge bro.🤘🏼 impressive. ⭐️ Good Charlotte ⭐️ one of my fav pop punk
I loved pop punk thats why I'm back making it and at 216K subscribers on youtube do u think its coming back ? My lastv4 songs are poppunk
From a kid who listens to a lot of this rap (along with metal & hardcore) that has in the past year picked up a guitar to start a band inspired by the hip hop almost as much as the metal - this video is dead eye accurate
Finn, I honestly think this is your best video so far. Being the prime age for the glory years and being obsessed with every band on the Drive Thru Records rosta made me the person I am today. I’ve played in pop punk bands ever since I learnt drums and personally I think the genre is still strong. With labels like Hopeless, Fearless and a few others, there are plenty of bands keeping the genre alive. It’s never going to be like the glory days but every genre has it’s time to shine. Thanks for a great video dude 👍🏻
I loved pop punk thats why I'm back making it and at 216K subscribers on youtube do u think its coming back ? My lastv4 songs are poppunk cause my views on youtube are insane
The punks that were the gate keepers annoyed the crap out of me.
You must be really bored then
The crust/anarcho punks? They are their own scene and incredibly tribalistic. Like, if you didn't put on the full costume, they wouldn't take you seriously. They really didn't mix in much with the other punk scenes. Not that everyone that listened to that music was like that. I listened to some anarcho bands myself but no way I'd go full crust punk, dressing like a max max character and only listening to shitty crust bands just to fit in.