you failed alot men! where is Blink 182, Sum 41, Simple Plan, Yellowcard, Underoath, Avril. belive it or not, but they were emo culture too! open.spotify.com/playlist/2q1cjWF4r6npqKlaxZcI3b?si=IAOiVlO2RcSza_KBH9pR7Q
@@Alexmustdie-zy6kz maybe their first album. But the rest is just sad boy pop punk. Emo is supposed to be dark and gritty. Listen to some emo bands and pay attention to the lyrics. They’re super fucked up. Not lyrics about how your girlfriend in high school hurt you and you still miss her. Some emo lyrics will seriously depress the shit out of you with how depressing and dark they are
And it made rock and metal look like a bunch of bums compared to rap and hip hop, keep in mind this was the same time Kanye West said rappers are the new rockstars. I have nothing against emo but this is just my opinion why rock and metal kind of fell off a bit
@@IanNason-qn9yw As a massive Korn fan, I can safely say that you are the exact kind of person Jonathan was painfully “whining” about in Faget and Clown.
As a former punk, then soldier, now counselor to bring it full-circle, I am glad you mentioned the mental health awareness. A very important part of music that everyone else misses the mark on. Love the channel and what you’re doing.
Technically it hasnt because Emo Rap is a big genre now days. And a lot of them are using elements of rock and even having more rock sounds to it soooo ots still kicking its just in a new form
@@piefort99 just saying emo rap isnt even a thing. people just wanted the style to correspond with their own music taste, so they came up with that bs. but emo was formed in the late 80s-early 90s, and it never consisted of rap. and the rap artists people claim to be emo such as lil peep, blackbear, etc. arent even alternative. rap isnt emo.
@@blchpptrtxxx they litterally follow the same rules of emo structure one just has trap drums. A lot of the emo community has accepted emo rappers like peep and Juicewrld because the heart and the soul was there so i dont get whats missing?
I fell in with the metalheads at school and rejected the emo scene 🙄 im just discovering all this great music in my early 30's, and thinking man this is good!
@@zeffmalchazeen3429 There's good shit in both genres. When you're in the mood for it Metal goes better with beer, melodic punk/emo goes better with weed. If you're a straight edge type then it doesn't matter :)
The year is 2007. You’re sat on the bus on your way to school glaring in the direction of the girl you’re far too awkward to talk to but have dedicated numerous pages of your calligraphy journal titled ‘♥’ to. You just pulled your headphone cable 1cm out of the aux input on your Apple iPod Shuffle (USB stick) to hear the ‘panned left’ screamo-only vocals on the final chorus of FOB’s Saturday because that way Pete’s screams hit you square in the feels and remind you you’ll never be good enough for that girl’s love.
@@ThatShitGood Noo hold there, 2007 was peak emo sounds especially with the clean vocals Lol! I don't know if you remember the hardcore kids shitting on bands like As I Lay Dying for too much melody and the clean vocals which made them go full rage mode, I found it funny..
Half true: you cannot be a kid forever. Still it is possible to be Emo - forever. Being Emo isn't restricted by age, even an old, retired guy like me can be Emo. Hell, yeah ! ❤ (2 B) Emo 4 ever
Emo music made me feel like my depression wasn't an isolated incident, where I wasn't the only one who felt that way, while giving words to the suicidal and self-shaming thoughts that left me feeling empty. Being able to listen to the music gave me the creative energy to write about how I felt during an emotional state where the word energy was fickle if not non-existent. It also helped me understand why my brothers behaved the way they did, although a belated realization, and in turn allowed me to accept them. I always have said the best time to live is right now. We are more moral and ethical because of our technological and medical advancements and surprisingly emo music pushed this world forward when it comes to mental health, through both self-analysis and through psychological evaluations. Emo music is not an aesthetic but a lifestyle and a means of creating and fostering empathy. If we can embrace the inner angst and externalize it we can not only support with following generations but empathize with them in a different way. I mean how many other generations can tell their kids about piercing their own lips with a needle and hand sanitizer and getting weekly infections for like seven months on end while considering self-piercing other parts of the face because "it wasn't that bad," until giving up because it was that bad because facial piercings are hot? Do you have any idea how much blood can come out of a hole in your lip? More than it should, much, much more...
Oh I hear you, and you missed the rave years of 90’s - early 2000’s. There were people that had multiple lip piercings at raves back then (overlap perhaps) but I will take kids dressed in black with eye liner over kids dressed in candy colored fun fur outfits with Big plastic wallet chains (oh yeah that was a thing, Happy Hardcore was not my thing (!) )
Eh.. alot of emo kids lacked empathy. I outgrew alot of that stuff and those people. Self absorption at its finest. Some of us turned out how you described tho
Listening to MyChem as an older guy really feels so much richer, I did not appreciate the theatre in their music as I just rode the raw emotions when I was a teen\tween
Seriously thank you for mentioning the mental health part. The 2000s were some of the hardest years of my life but also the most beautiful because of the relationships I built through music.
I'm honestly surprised there wasn't even a single mention of Jimmy eat world. They were the biggest band to transition from the mid to late 90s emo to the early 2000s emo.
I remember being 11 and seeing welcome to the black parade for the first time, that was so cool, it was something that I have never seen before. When I discovered what emo was I felt like I've found my people, I was always atracted to darker aestethics even as a kid, and at the time we had a big scene here in Brazil too, a lot of local bands. It was great, but my parents didn't let me go anywhere, so it was really sad that when I was finally able to start going places, emo was already dying.
midwest emo revival is still keeping emo strong as well. like real friends, modern baseball, into american football and joan of arc making music again, midwest math rock like tiny moving parts, ttng, algernon cadwallader, remo drive. so many of these bands have kept emo fresh into 2021.
It's frustrating that keeps politely denouncing these sorts of emo bands as he doesn't like 'the indie rock sound, but that WAS and still IS the sound of emo to many people. Especially those who were there before it became fused with pop punk. The fact that that initial sound gained a resurgence in the 2010s is barely mentioned here. The World is a Beautiful Place & I'm Not Afraid to Die; empire! empire" (I was a lonely estate); & Brave Little Abacus.
Oh boy, you saying that made me laugh and then I realised that I think that almost every week, sometimes less, sometimes more often. I think I'm becoming emo
@@jasonlovesmusicreacting882 I can respect that. My favorite era will always be Life Is Not a Waiting Room, but The Fire slaps pretty heavy. Can’t say I’ve listened to Renacer or Pull The Thorns
This video was awesome. I was NOT expecting the whole history of Emo (starting w/ Rites of Spring), but I am definitely glad you included all that to put it into context. I love how many band names you can name-drop. you truly know your stuff P.S. never heard of the term 'twinkle daddy' before now. gonna have to use that more, lol
i’m glad that it’s slightly cooler now to listen to and dress “emo” now that a large amount of popular artists have early 2000s emo influence. i was pretty heavily involved in the scene 2013-2017, which was honestly not the best time to be into mall emo and pop punk. anyways, it’s dope that i can dig out my old studded belt from early middle school, wear an old mcr shirt, and listen to a taking back sunday song at 18 years old and not feel ashamed to do so. a lot of the artists outside of punk and rock that i’ve looked up to in rap music and such are also into the same stuff i was into at 15, so that’s dope as fuck too.
My emo years were mid-late 2000s listening to Silverstein, Taking Back Sunday and basically anything on Victory Records. Years later as a equally sad adult i discovered "real emo" basically all those Jade Tree and Revelation artists you mentioned
I remember being in the confused stage between trying to fit in with preppy clothes but having the emo bangs with my Abercrombie sweater. Eventually transitioned to dyed black hair and band shirts from hot topic, felt legit.
I had an emo phase, and I'm still emo inside. Remembering this brings me nostalgia, and memories! I agree with you Finn when you say that Emo has helped people see that depression and anxiety, and other mental illnesses are not frills. Excellent video !!
I'm verging 30 as well, and I have no trouble finding music I like... as long as I'm looking at music from 15 or 20 years ago or older :p I kid, but it is kinda true.
Turned 27 last month and I'm the same way. Music I grew up with is pretty much all I listen to because I just don't enjoy the music that's coming out nowadays. Last artists I discovered that I actually like were Sithu Aye and Plini back in 2016, but I'm not keen on their newer stuff.
I was like that, but then I got into the emo rap/trap scene, and these kids are pretty much carrying on the legacy and innovating off of it. XXXtentacion in particular really impressed me with just how diverse was.
The Used were the first emo band Id ever heard, other than the get up kids. The Used took MCR on tour to support them. They went from opening Vans Warped tour to headlining it the next year. The used are the main one for me.
As someone who likes to consider themselves as a “graphic designer” I really appreciate the way you incorporate the use of graphic design in album cover art, thank you sir
Most emo people I knew back then, are still emo lmao. They changed it up a little, but they still have colored hair, tattoos, and punk rock clothes 😂♥️
I also changed something a little bit, like, not wearing so much stuff and not look like a teen, but I still like to dress like this, that cool haircut and, of course, emo music :) Emos NOT DEAD !!
“A little less sixteen candles a little more touch me” will forever hold a special place in my heart. Whenever it comes on shuffle I always let it play
I'm 27 and still dress a bit alternative. Everyone wears bright colours like yellow and baby blue these days, so I dress in monochrome. Grey shirts all the way.
Being a teenage in the 2000s with extreme depression and suicidal desires, emo helped me a lot. Artists like Dashboard and Bright Eyes made me feel understood when no one else could and inspired me to make art and music which literally kept me alive.
Or AFI who inspired the MCR generation of bands and the ETF generation of bands and probably even the current generation... I think he somehow never mentions AFI even once
I still find it super ironic that people say that Paramore “stopped being emo” when the lyrical content of After Laughter is way more “emo” than the lyrical content on Riot!, not only that but it’s also crazy to think that the last rock musician to become a legit pop star was a bassist who used to be part of the hardcore, also I feel like mutual love of Fall Out Boy was the thing that brought teeny boppers and emos together in the mid-late 2000s, they truly were the “scene’s” boy band
Jared Leto, Adam Levine, and Chris Martin have entered the "last rock musician pop star" chat. John Mayer also has a seat at the table. They were both bigger at the time and the first three are bigger still today than Pete Wentz is/was, minus Leto whose band wasn't around during the heyday of mall emo but he's a bona fide A-list celeb, something Wentz wasn't exactly, tho huge in the teen world.
Some of the best years of my life. Going to FYE on Saturdays and buying CDs 💿 , going to Hot Topic and buying studded belts and band tees, downloading on shitty Bear Share and Lime Wire and making mixed CDs me and my younger sister would play and play. It was right before iTunes blew up. I remember being depressed but now in retrospect, it was fun times ❤️
That mental health part was spot on. I remember parents and teachers asking if kids were alright or checking the wrist area for cuts. It definitely brought awareness and opened the door to talk about mental health in the mainstream. Keep it up the great work 🙌🏼💪🏼
I never went to the extremes of changing my hair or painting my fingernails or anything, but Emo was and still is my shit. I don’t think I’ll ever stop listening to it.
I noticed that there is a pattern with alt trends in which teenagers stick with them in a sometimes very cringe way, then people in their 20s get rid of the cringe part and finally as adults with jobs and stuff the fashion choices become much more homogenized, which is sad but inevitable since eyeliner, thuds and striped gloves would look weird as fuck on people at the age of 40
@@omegazx7236 I don't care what other people will think about me when I'm older because I will rock the style I have right now and listen to the same bands for the rest of my life and give 2 middle fingers to all of the haters. And besides, getting older may be mandatory, but growing up is optional.
still screamingly sings "helena", "note to self" sometimes on a karaoke bar with coworkers after a corporate dinner in japan :)...life may move on but the emo kid still lives and kicks inside :)
emo never died, it just evolved, theres hyperpop, emo rap, punk rap, trap metal, etc, plenty of alt kids still around nowadays plus the old emo bands and their old songs still get hella numbers
The intro is golden and really captures how a lot of people who are born in the 90s/late 80s feel. Hahahaha. Can't believe I've been MIA from this channel for so long. geese, glad to be back! :)
I graduated high school in 2005, so I loved bands like the Used, TBS, and Dashboard... my daughter loves fall out boy and my chemical romance. I really love Lil Peep and I appreciate that you are giving him positive feedback RIP
I love the final point you made about mental health. When I first got into MCR there was a line that Gerard said that has stuck with me for years "It’s okay to be messed up, because there are five other dudes who are just as messed up as you." It seems so juvenile to fall back on that line but as you also said it wasn't a common thing to hear from people back then. And even as I get older, there is still a lot of baggage that I carry with the years, and I think there is comfort in the catharsis or the memory of the catharsis I experienced when I listened to "I am not afraid to keep on living, I am not afraid to walk this world alone..." for the first time. Great vid.
You know, its funny to think that I got into MCR because of a fanfic someone wrote based off of their Danger Days album. It was really well written for a DeviantArt fic, and was really impressive in how it incorperated the lyrics into the plot and characters. Whenever I listen to Danger Days, I can't help but think of those characters. That fic made Scarecrow and DESTROYA the best villain songs ever. And it still blows my mind that they made a Better Living Industries website for that album. It was one of the coolest and creepiest discoveries of my teenage life.
"You just can't stay an emo kid forever" *Currently; 25, wearing fingerless skeleton gloves, has swoopy hair still, has seven facial piercings.* Oops, send help I guess.
@@porkfriedrice1530 dubstep and edm has only grown larger despite it not being in the zeitgeist. you can find a rave playing dubstep before an emo band in most cities
There's some "hyperpop" soundcloud artists that carry over the emo vibes into the stuff they're doing. blackwinterwells and 8485 are good examples. It's like angsty, completely unironic emo bedroom electro pop. Good stuff.
Wanna echo the “wild no Jimmy Eat World” mention by someone else and add Thursday as well. No time to mention everyone but those are two pretty heavy hitters in the 2nd to 3rd phase transition to miss!
Thursday never really took off in the mainstream, though. I think they fundamentally rejected that kind of path, underlined by their falling out with Victory Records. Great band, though, very influential for bands that I played in back in the day. I saw them once back in 2001 in a basement in Lancaster, PA, and it was one of the best shows I've ever been to. Saw them again a couple years ago when they played Full Collapse in its entirety, and they had the same raw energy that I remembered from nearly 20 years ago.
Finn refuses to give attention to bands that spark the cult mentality. Thursday, glassjaw, deftones, etc. You rarely hear him mention them except to say he doesn't mention them because they carry such a douchey fanbase.
came to ask about jimmy and thursday as well. between 2000 and 2003 that was the entire presence of emo at my high school. pedrothelion too? though i would guess finn leaves them out for the same reason of preference (pedro was kinda 'i n d i e' ig)
@@terminaldeity Don't want to start an argument, but that just isn't true. Thursday left Victory records and signed to Island records, a major label, and had a top 10 album with War All The Time. They definitely didn't reject the mainstream path, but that path just didn't ultimately suit them.
Oddly enough this video just answered a question I’ve been having for a while, why do so many people seem to have a problem with teenage girls and what they like? Cause they do decide what gets popular, they travel in packs and have a huge network (usually) that spreads a trend. No wonder the gate keepers are salty.
Teenage girls are the reason people like Justin Bieber, One Direction, and BTS became some of the most popular musicians in the world. Most teenage girls have always just regurgitated everything they see people online doing. They have no real sense of self or what they really like. They just copy everything. If there is any group of people more guilty than others of being posers it is most definitely teenage girls.
I’m 38 and I’ve listened to Emo since 96-97. I never considered The Used Emo. Me and my circle of scene friends considered our selves elitist “too cool for school” kids looked down on people who liked bands like MCR, Avril Lavigne, Paramore etc. We were “cooler” than them because we listened to Thursday, Underoath and The Used. Now on to The Used which is still my favorite band to this day have me confused as to what genre they should actually be categorized in. Can you do a video on just The Used? I remember watching Bert on the Osbournes and getting pissed on how they portrayed him. He is one of the most genuine guys I have ever met. Their fans are still die hard to this day.
I think that's why I never got into emo, even if I was "the right" age when it was popular. Never really listened to lyrics in rock/metal, it was all about the pitch of the vocals and the instruments for me.
Which kind of this type of music are you specifically talking about, because if you listened to Fall Out Boy for the lyrics, I don’t know what to tell you, Look, I’ve loved them since I was 12 but I don’t know anyone that does that, their lyrics read like a game of mad libs, but man can they write catchy music, but if you’re talking about bands like Brand New or Bayside, I’m right with you
I listened to a bunch of stuff like After the Burial and Veil of Maya and decided that I'm pretty much the opposite lol. After listening to enough metalcore and other related genres the vocals are more of an instrument than anything else but yeah I'll listen to anything that sounds good however obvious that sounds. Minus the emo stuff that sounds like indie I like a lot of what was mentioned
Oddly enough, it was the opposite for me. I found the lyrics to this genre to be hard to understand, so I hooked on to the instrumentals, and I picked up a guitar as a result. Been playing 15 years now lol.
I grew up right around the time it was mainstream in the late 2000s, I never understood the emotional side of it, never understood the music, so I instead became a goth at the time and started getting into metal. The emos at high school were very clearly emotional, but I never went emotional much, I just went numb and silently angry. That South Park episode did have some truth and some resonance to it as emos were quite literally everywhere playing their music in class, then there'd be that one goth kid who just blasted Slipknot instead and getting psyched for the mosh pit at lunch. It sometimes got difficult to tell them apart, you sort of had to get to know them to find out, the music they played was a good indicator, but also if they had colour in their hair and/or spiky hair, they were more likely to be emo as a goth was more likely to have jet black, straightened hair. Looking back at it, it's just surreal seeing just how different a time it was growing up around it all. As a teenager, I kept my hair long and almost always had my left eye covered up by it and just bottled everything negative up inside, now in my late 20s, I'm happy, free of the inner turmoil and shave my head, but the metal never went away
I personally like Paramore's change in sound. I like the funky style of After Laughter. And Hayley Williams's solo albums are superb. She's really matured as a vocalist and a lyricist.
As the song goes, disco never died. Disco is dance music with the same beat which allowed the DJ to slap on a new song without disturbing the dance flow. Disco comes from the word discoteca which is Spanish for nightclub. I believe punk rock went through three generational changes. Generation 1 was a bunch of WW2 kids in Europe that were poor, homeless, criminals and high on glue, paint and heroin. The music and audience was racist, sexist and violent which is why the music got the punk name. This music was not recorded although the lyrics to some songs have survived. Generation 2 is when the labels started to water down and more refined punk and make it more mainstream. It also became a fashion statement as the more wealthy people wanted to look poor. Generation 3: Pop punk which lyrically and socially has nothing to do with the original punk scene. Grunge, hip hop and nu metal killed hair metal. Grunge died when the stars died and the bands broke up. Also pop punk and emo became popular.
@@orlock20 Many sources I found say that disco originated from the French discothèque, which didn't mean a nightclub at first. So no, it doesn't have Spanish origins.
Nikki Sixx looked like that in 1982, and Siouxsie of Siouxsie and the Banshees looked like that in 1976. All an evolution from early Glam, Goth and Punk culture. Your TH-cam page is awesome!
@@omegazx7236 it just takes time, that's why people stop doing it. Plus you eventually become a wage slave and work doesn't want you coming in looking like that.
@@harpskid that and the fact that alternative fashion looks good when you are 19, but it looks kinda dumb when you are 40. Just another more reason to enjoy youth while it lasts, if you ask me
Unrelated to music but the emo kids in high school were easily the nicest clique despite how made fun of they got too. I was one of those kids that got along with pretty much everyone and the emo crowd without a doubt was the most pleasant
I have to agree. I was the farthest thing from being “emo” in high school but I listened to all the music and went to all the local shows and they were always nothing but nice to me even though they occasionally made fun of me for not dressing like them. It didn’t hurt that I was also friends with Adam Lazarra’s little brother. That kinda gave me some street cred.
I love that you give props to teenaged girls for deciding what's cool. I -hated- emo, but I can see that it was hugely impactful on my generation to elicit such a huge response from me. Even eyerolled at the start of this video heh. I should mention I was very not cool. Mlerp. I was over there listening to Massive Attack while people eyerolled at me.
Bro I teared up a bit when note to self played at the beginning! I jammed that song on repeat with my pocket CD player riding on the bus to middle school.
Can’t think of 1 band that came out in early 2000s that didn’t sound like a poor man’s Sunny Day Real Estate. Incredibly ahead of their time, criminally underrated.
Yes I noticed that too! And altough Through Being Cool is a fucking banger, Can't Slow Down was always my favorite! I think "Deciding" Is the best and most energizing Opener to ever be written!! :D
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are the shirts coming in pink?
you failed alot men! where is Blink 182, Sum 41, Simple Plan, Yellowcard, Underoath, Avril. belive it or not, but they were emo culture too!
open.spotify.com/playlist/2q1cjWF4r6npqKlaxZcI3b?si=IAOiVlO2RcSza_KBH9pR7Q
I miss my emo era 😭🖤
Should listen to lucki
U sound like a POSER AND CULTURAL MARXIST
reporting for duty
So let's just pretend
Thank u for your service
Im ready for a one take nothing.nowhere album ❤
get on the podcast
YOOOOOO. THE LEGEND IS HERE.
I like how you said "My Chemical Romance" twice in your list of top selling bands in the genre, it works whether you did that on purpose or not.
And Fall Out Boy twice!! I liked both of em
It's like he meant to say pre breakup and post breakup 🥲
But MCR isn’t emo. So. He either doesn’t make sense or is trying to get clicks
@@bowitboy6635 McR is literally text book emo they literally started out as a Emocore band like Thursday
@@Alexmustdie-zy6kz maybe their first album. But the rest is just sad boy pop punk. Emo is supposed to be dark and gritty. Listen to some emo bands and pay attention to the lyrics. They’re super fucked up. Not lyrics about how your girlfriend in high school hurt you and you still miss her. Some emo lyrics will seriously depress the shit out of you with how depressing and dark they are
"What killed Emo ?"
**Matt Cutshall wants to know your location**
Right?!?!?
Its a bit sad that he didnt mentioned matt cutshall. Makes me feel emo, might delete.
This video was recommended after Matt’s latest “Felt Emo” 🖤
Emo's not dead...
That guy is SO annoying. He's literally not even funny.
Respect for recognizing how emo really helped to push mental health awareness into the mainstream.
KoRn was doing that at least a decade before Emo ever came around.
Emo was whiny wimps.
And it made rock and metal look like a bunch of bums compared to rap and hip hop, keep in mind this was the same time Kanye West said rappers are the new rockstars. I have nothing against emo but this is just my opinion why rock and metal kind of fell off a bit
@@IanNason-qn9yw As a massive Korn fan, I can safely say that you are the exact kind of person Jonathan was painfully “whining” about in Faget and Clown.
Grunge bands did it before emo did. without whining or self pity or screaming vocals throughout the song.
I think it created more mental health problems as it encouraged and glamorised disenfranchisement and self-loathing, self-pitying.
I saw "emo" and I was immediately summoned to this video.
We see gerard and are compelled. Its not a choice. It where we belong.
@Patrick Licata Yeah that was a fun comp! Just wait til the black parade one comes out!
@Patrick Licata Yup! Actually in the works right now!
Same Bro
So was I
As a former punk, then soldier, now counselor to bring it full-circle, I am glad you mentioned the mental health awareness. A very important part of music that everyone else misses the mark on. Love the channel and what you’re doing.
Thank-You Sincerily for your service and sacrifices you made -to protect our country, Good-Sir.
I just want to know how you go from punk to soldier? Seems like completely different ideologies no?
“EMO WILL NEVER DIE”
“alright grandma let’s get you to bed”
Take this to our graves
*cries in emo*
Technically it hasnt because Emo Rap is a big genre now days. And a lot of them are using elements of rock and even having more rock sounds to it soooo ots still kicking its just in a new form
@@piefort99 just saying emo rap isnt even a thing. people just wanted the style to correspond with their own music taste, so they came up with that bs. but emo was formed in the late 80s-early 90s, and it never consisted of rap. and the rap artists people claim to be emo such as lil peep, blackbear, etc. arent even alternative. rap isnt emo.
@@blchpptrtxxx they litterally follow the same rules of emo structure one just has trap drums. A lot of the emo community has accepted emo rappers like peep and Juicewrld because the heart and the soul was there so i dont get whats missing?
I fell in with the metalheads at school and rejected the emo scene 🙄 im just discovering all this great music in my early 30's, and thinking man this is good!
Traitor.
@@Jarl_Thidrandi More like double agent 😎
my acquaintances at our local metal scene had some emo roots
@@zeffmalchazeen3429 There's good shit in both genres. When you're in the mood for it Metal goes better with beer, melodic punk/emo goes better with weed. If you're a straight edge type then it doesn't matter :)
Love your exp lol best of both worlds 🤘🏼🤭
I was considered emo back then now I'm considered a metalhead xD but I just enjoy most music 💜
The year is 2007. You’re sat on the bus on your way to school glaring in the direction of the girl you’re far too awkward to talk to but have dedicated numerous pages of your calligraphy journal titled ‘♥’ to. You just pulled your headphone cable 1cm out of the aux input on your Apple iPod Shuffle (USB stick) to hear the ‘panned left’ screamo-only vocals on the final chorus of FOB’s Saturday because that way Pete’s screams hit you square in the feels and remind you you’ll never be good enough for that girl’s love.
😭
This is why i listened to black flag they skipped all the whiny bs and just stuck it in
Beautiful
Did you steal my diary?
When these open doors were open ended
"What killed Emo?"
Emo killed itself.
Lmao underrated comment
I see what you did there
"I'm so emo, I broke myself in half"
Lmfao
No one saw the signs.
the fact that Gerard took the time and got better after such dark times is so inspiring
One of my favorite things about MCR is the guitar dynamics between Ray Toro and Frank Iero
"Guys with an office job but still dress in black and go to emo night."
I made it in a Punk Rock MBA video!
ive been to emo nite. they had in LA .. its so sad how old we are now
Dude I used to work with the girl from the Fox 11 interview about Emo hahahaha
So wild ahahaha 😅😂
really? lol
She still emo?
Haha me too. Guitar Center?
hhiiii i love you
Hardcore kid: *Starts talking shit*
Me: "Whoa don't make me pull up your myspace buddy"
Hardcore? More like 2007's metalcore
@@ThatShitGood Noo hold there, 2007 was peak emo sounds especially with the clean vocals Lol!
I don't know if you remember the hardcore kids shitting on bands like As I Lay Dying for too much melody and the clean vocals which made them go full rage mode, I found it funny..
My old higschool myspace is still out there, a time capsule. I can't get back into it. But... no regerts.
I gotta say, I love how you always respectfully do retrospective takes on so many topics and challenge viewers to look at it much more fairly.
“You can’t be that emo kid forever”
:Matt Cutshall is typing.....:
Felt emo again might delete...
Half true: you cannot be a kid forever. Still it is possible to be Emo - forever. Being Emo isn't restricted by age, even an old, retired guy like me can be Emo. Hell, yeah !
❤ (2 B) Emo 4 ever
Nope I'm not even emo way long ago
Well kind of I was really into it and then I just fell out of it but kind of picked it back up again not the same as before but still there
I came here looking for cutshall comments xD
Emo music made me feel like my depression wasn't an isolated incident, where I wasn't the only one who felt that way, while giving words to the suicidal and self-shaming thoughts that left me feeling empty. Being able to listen to the music gave me the creative energy to write about how I felt during an emotional state where the word energy was fickle if not non-existent. It also helped me understand why my brothers behaved the way they did, although a belated realization, and in turn allowed me to accept them. I always have said the best time to live is right now. We are more moral and ethical because of our technological and medical advancements and surprisingly emo music pushed this world forward when it comes to mental health, through both self-analysis and through psychological evaluations. Emo music is not an aesthetic but a lifestyle and a means of creating and fostering empathy. If we can embrace the inner angst and externalize it we can not only support with following generations but empathize with them in a different way.
I mean how many other generations can tell their kids about piercing their own lips with a needle and hand sanitizer and getting weekly infections for like seven months on end while considering self-piercing other parts of the face because "it wasn't that bad," until giving up because it was that bad because facial piercings are hot? Do you have any idea how much blood can come out of a hole in your lip? More than it should, much, much more...
👏👏👏yes
Oh I hear you, and you missed the rave years of 90’s - early 2000’s. There were people that had multiple lip piercings at raves back then (overlap perhaps) but I will take kids dressed in black with eye liner over kids dressed in candy colored fun fur outfits with Big plastic wallet chains (oh yeah that was a thing, Happy Hardcore was not my thing (!) )
👏👏this!!!!👏👏
@@sawtooth808 lol omg when you said happy hardcore you triggerd my memory banks i totally forgot about that bastard child of a genre
Eh.. alot of emo kids lacked empathy. I outgrew alot of that stuff and those people. Self absorption at its finest. Some of us turned out how you described tho
Listening to MyChem as an older guy really feels so much richer, I did not appreciate the theatre in their music as I just rode the raw emotions when I was a teen\tween
Liza minelli was in "Mama" on the black parade
well said
When I listen to the Black Parade album it feels like a play performed with an orchestra
Right??? I’ve been going back to early MCR and they were so detailed, no wonder they were so good. They’re like the Blink of Emo
Same. I feel like I didn’t appreciate them as much back then as I do now.
Seriously thank you for mentioning the mental health part. The 2000s were some of the hardest years of my life but also the most beautiful because of the relationships I built through music.
I'm honestly surprised there wasn't even a single mention of Jimmy eat world. They were the biggest band to transition from the mid to late 90s emo to the early 2000s emo.
How the flying fuck are they emo?
The shift from Clarity to Bleed American couldn't be a better example of 'underground to overground'. Still, can't mention everyone I suppose.
@@SuperRat420 They started in the underground emo scene
Yeah that's a really good point
@@SuperRat420 emo fans widely consider them one of the greatest emo bands of all time
All the old Escape The Fate songs used in the news clips brings nostalgia
Yesssss! I caught that too... DIYLF slapped big time... love it lol
"Goofy hair cuts" sir this is my CULTURE you're talking about
Absolute facts! It’s a lifestyle dad! Also who the fuck says emo is dead?? 😂 it never died it can’t die and it will never die
I remember being 11 and seeing welcome to the black parade for the first time, that was so cool, it was something that I have never seen before. When I discovered what emo was I felt like I've found my people, I was always atracted to darker aestethics even as a kid, and at the time we had a big scene here in Brazil too, a lot of local bands.
It was great, but my parents didn't let me go anywhere, so it was really sad that when I was finally able to start going places, emo was already dying.
midwest emo revival is still keeping emo strong as well. like real friends, modern baseball, into american football and joan of arc making music again, midwest math rock like tiny moving parts, ttng, algernon cadwallader, remo drive. so many of these bands have kept emo fresh into 2021.
Glad I found this comment lol, was going to make a similar one now I don't have to. You hit the nail on the head.
It's frustrating that keeps politely denouncing these sorts of emo bands as he doesn't like 'the indie rock sound, but that WAS and still IS the sound of emo to many people. Especially those who were there before it became fused with pop punk. The fact that that initial sound gained a resurgence in the 2010s is barely mentioned here. The World is a Beautiful Place & I'm Not Afraid to Die; empire! empire" (I was a lonely estate); & Brave Little Abacus.
Ok..and Ville Valo is back! HIM seperated but there is still VV.
Watching this video made me feel the need to call my parents and remind them they still don't understand me and have no idea what I'm going through.
Haha this is the funniest comment I've ever seen on TH-cam. Tremendous.
😂
Oh boy, you saying that made me laugh and then I realised that I think that almost every week, sometimes less, sometimes more often. I think I'm becoming emo
I’m that emo kid who loved the used and senses fail, and now I listen to Tiny Moving Parts and If I Die First. Love this video, my dude
I hope SF goes back to metalcore. I'm still that metalcore dude.
@@jasonlovesmusicreacting882 I can respect that. My favorite era will always be Life Is Not a Waiting Room, but The Fire slaps pretty heavy. Can’t say I’ve listened to Renacer or Pull The Thorns
So I’m not the only one who listens to if I die first
Omg I love TMP man
I honestly believe their EP last year was the best thing to come out of 2020
This video was awesome. I was NOT expecting the whole history of Emo (starting w/ Rites of Spring), but I am definitely glad you included all that to put it into context.
I love how many band names you can name-drop. you truly know your stuff
P.S. never heard of the term 'twinkle daddy' before now. gonna have to use that more, lol
i’m glad that it’s slightly cooler now to listen to and dress “emo” now that a large amount of popular artists have early 2000s emo influence. i was pretty heavily involved in the scene 2013-2017, which was honestly not the best time to be into mall emo and pop punk. anyways, it’s dope that i can dig out my old studded belt from early middle school, wear an old mcr shirt, and listen to a taking back sunday song at 18 years old and not feel ashamed to do so. a lot of the artists outside of punk and rock that i’ve looked up to in rap music and such are also into the same stuff i was into at 15, so that’s dope as fuck too.
0:32 "bands like fall out boy, my chemical romance, paramore, panic at the disco, and my chemical romance". homie you must really like mcr
Well they are the punk ambassador of the 2000s.
I heard it too I thought I was trippin lol
he also listed FOB twice during the intro to the Mall Emo section of the video.
Don't we all?
"You can still be that emo kid inside." Until an emo song comes on in work and you look around and nearly everyone is singing along lol
The black parade starts
Theres a monthly emo night event in my city and yep most that attend are 25+ y/o still in their office attire (cause its on friday nights😂)
31 year old emo still going strong right here 🙋🏼♀️ all my friends that were emo back then are also still emo now. Emo will never die 🖤
Dang, a long-hauler. If you ever have any kids they'll probably get into death metal
That's an accomplishment
34 here, ignore the children commenting, they're upset that they were pooping their diapers when the real stuff was out.
Young lady, don't you ever threaten us again🤣
Elder Elmo gang 👏🏻
My emo years were mid-late 2000s listening to Silverstein, Taking Back Sunday and basically anything on Victory Records. Years later as a equally sad adult i discovered "real emo" basically all those Jade Tree and Revelation artists you mentioned
Silverstein takes me back
Victory Records would have died without the huge indecent success of Thursday's Full Collapse.
Hell yeah, victory records had good shit. Aiden and Silverstein were my favorite bands throughout middle/high school
I’m still rocking out to Silverstein
Thrice!!
Facebook is the reason. It killed Myspace and therefore Emo (this kind of emo and style)
You’ve never been to the emo side of Facebook I see
"you generally can't be emo into your 20s" *me with my underoath shirt and purple skunk stripe in my hair at age 20* 😳😳
Im 30 now but id still rock all of my band shirts if i could fit into them 😝
20 is late teens
I remember being in the confused stage between trying to fit in with preppy clothes but having the emo bangs with my Abercrombie sweater. Eventually transitioned to dyed black hair and band shirts from hot topic, felt legit.
That's how it started with me as well in 8th grade. I eventually made the full transition in June 2020 and got into more bands ever since.
I had an emo phase, and I'm still emo inside. Remembering this brings me nostalgia, and memories! I agree with you Finn when you say that Emo has helped people see that depression and anxiety, and other mental illnesses are not frills. Excellent video !!
He feels so strong about indie for some reason it cracks me up
Which is utterly stupid because the only thing it ever meant is "independent".
I don’t see the issue myself :P
@Ben McCann
Nope. When people say "indie" they're refering to a specific type of lame trustfund rock, but you knew that.
Yeah this guy doesn't like indie stuff, yet he likes emo rap 🤔
@@nativemerc lol I dont think Isaac Brock is a trust fund kid but ok
crazy to think i'm hitting 30 and still cannot find music I like. I'm stuck in a late 90s to mid 2000s loop lol. I'll forever be emo.
I'm verging 30 as well, and I have no trouble finding music I like... as long as I'm looking at music from 15 or 20 years ago or older :p
I kid, but it is kinda true.
Well modern metal might become an exception if you search for it.
Turned 27 last month and I'm the same way. Music I grew up with is pretty much all I listen to because I just don't enjoy the music that's coming out nowadays. Last artists I discovered that I actually like were Sithu Aye and Plini back in 2016, but I'm not keen on their newer stuff.
Same
I was like that, but then I got into the emo rap/trap scene, and these kids are pretty much carrying on the legacy and innovating off of it. XXXtentacion in particular really impressed me with just how diverse was.
The Used were the first emo band Id ever heard, other than the get up kids. The Used took MCR on tour to support them. They went from opening Vans Warped tour to headlining it the next year. The used are the main one for me.
As someone who likes to consider themselves as a “graphic designer” I really appreciate the way you incorporate the use of graphic design in album cover art, thank you sir
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Most emo people I knew back then, are still emo lmao. They changed it up a little, but they still have colored hair, tattoos, and punk rock clothes 😂♥️
That's awesome :D
I'll still clip some side hair 🤣 still have tats.. still love harder music.. but didn't know I was emo.. just liked what I liked haha 🤷♀️
Can confirm, still emo hahaha. Colored hair, tattoos, ripped jeans and I am a CPS specialist with a BSW.
I also changed something a little bit, like, not wearing so much stuff and not look like a teen, but I still like to dress like this, that cool haircut and, of course, emo music :)
Emos NOT DEAD !!
I don't do that anymore but sometimes I dress up take a few pics then take it all off for fun
“Weezer was an emo band”
“Yeah sure grandpa let’s get you to bed”
I'd argue Pinkerton was emo but everything else nag
@@Awesomebaconman123 Blue Album and Pinkterton.
@@LuciusGeronimo nah
Pinkerton is like quintessential emo
They were definitely Whiney enough to be emo
“A little less sixteen candles a little more touch me” will forever hold a special place in my heart. Whenever it comes on shuffle I always let it play
Wow. Another person who likes that song. Long live Emo!
I love it too
The video ❤
Normal 28 year olds with office jobs.. Oof, that one hit me.
You're never too old. Gerard was in his mid twenties when MCR released their first album.
I just turned 28 yesterday . “I’m still not okay”tho 👩🏾🎤🤣💔😂
He explained me perfectly 🤣
I'm 27 and still dress a bit alternative. Everyone wears bright colours like yellow and baby blue these days, so I dress in monochrome. Grey shirts all the way.
I'm turning 25 this year, so yeah, you are right. I'm not emo anymore outside, but inside I will always be. It will ways be part of me.
Having been an emo kid, I'm a super big fan of the new modern emo sound. The whole midwest emo revival scene is really cool too.
Being a teenage in the 2000s with extreme depression and suicidal desires, emo helped me a lot. Artists like Dashboard and Bright Eyes made me feel understood when no one else could and inspired me to make art and music which literally kept me alive.
Wow, My Chem was so important, he listed them twice at the beginning.
Or AFI who inspired the MCR generation of bands and the ETF generation of bands and probably even the current generation... I think he somehow never mentions AFI even once
And he listed Fall Out Boy twice in a list later on in the video!
Knew I wasnt the only one.
“Bands like fall Out Boy, My chemical romance, Paramore, panic at the disco, and My Chemical Romance” lol so popular you had to say it twice huh?
I was hoping someone else caught that lol
They were the best band from that era so makes sense lol
yes
@@joshhuxleyisdead Not the best, only the more popular emo band.
I still find it super ironic that people say that Paramore “stopped being emo” when the lyrical content of After Laughter is way more “emo” than the lyrical content on Riot!, not only that but it’s also crazy to think that the last rock musician to become a legit pop star was a bassist who used to be part of the hardcore, also I feel like mutual love of Fall Out Boy was the thing that brought teeny boppers and emos together in the mid-late 2000s, they truly were the “scene’s” boy band
yes.
But they lost the rock. Emo is short for emotic rock now there just emotic pop.
Jared Leto, Adam Levine, and Chris Martin have entered the "last rock musician pop star" chat. John Mayer also has a seat at the table. They were both bigger at the time and the first three are bigger still today than Pete Wentz is/was, minus Leto whose band wasn't around during the heyday of mall emo but he's a bona fide A-list celeb, something Wentz wasn't exactly, tho huge in the teen world.
@@armandomorales3809 actually emo is short for emotional hardcore
@@kittykittybangbang9367 always heard emo to be short for emotic rock. Emo didn't start as hardcore?
Some of the best years of my life. Going to FYE on Saturdays and buying CDs 💿 , going to Hot Topic and buying studded belts and band tees, downloading on shitty Bear Share and Lime Wire and making mixed CDs me and my younger sister would play and play. It was right before iTunes blew up. I remember being depressed but now in retrospect, it was fun times ❤️
"Dashboard Confessional"
*MY HOPES ARE SO HIGH THAT YOUR KISS MIGHT KILL MEEEEEE*
SO WONT YOU KILL MEEEE, SO I DIE HAPPY
Ah Finn "bands like my chemical romance, fall out boy, paramore and my chemical romance"
And my chemical romance
Don’t forget my chemical romance
@@LOU-oo9zx no no no don’t fucking forget my chemical romance!!!
Emo rap?
I almost forgot to include My Chemical Romance
Hawthorne Heights was the Pinnacle of Emo Music
R.I.P to the Guitarist (Screamer) Casey Calvert
Yes Hawthorne Heights although not as famous as the bands he listed they were truly emo
They and especially If only you were lonely is the only thing in this vein still heavily in rotation
Also surprised his name wasn’t mentioned when Finn talked about the awareness of mental health/addiction
I miss him :(
Sounds suspicious.
That mental health part was spot on. I remember parents and teachers asking if kids were alright or checking the wrist area for cuts. It definitely brought awareness and opened the door to talk about mental health in the mainstream. Keep it up the great work 🙌🏼💪🏼
Could be argued that it influenced kids to think scratching yourself up with a razor was cool. Kinda seemed that way at the time.
The first Used album is still incredible
Exactly!
Fuck yes
Yup. And in my opinion In Love and Death is Better. Both those records still hold up
Heartwork is just as 👏 🙀
@@Nanokeeps you misspelled Artwork.
Lol kidding, I didn’t think Heartwork was bad, definitely their best shit in a long time
I never went to the extremes of changing my hair or painting my fingernails or anything, but Emo was and still is my shit. I don’t think I’ll ever stop listening to it.
Finn Mckenty: You can't be emo at 25
Me: Hold my eyeliner....
*GUYliner
Haha
@@redlaserfox3988 fuckin beat me to it lol.
Hahahaha straight up
I noticed that there is a pattern with alt trends in which teenagers stick with them in a sometimes very cringe way, then people in their 20s get rid of the cringe part and finally as adults with jobs and stuff the fashion choices become much more homogenized, which is sad but inevitable since eyeliner, thuds and striped gloves would look weird as fuck on people at the age of 40
@@omegazx7236 I don't care what other people will think about me when I'm older because I will rock the style I have right now and listen to the same bands for the rest of my life and give 2 middle fingers to all of the haters. And besides, getting older may be mandatory, but growing up is optional.
still screamingly sings "helena", "note to self" sometimes on a karaoke bar with coworkers after a corporate dinner in japan :)...life may move on but the emo kid still lives and kicks inside :)
emo never died, it just evolved, theres hyperpop, emo rap, punk rap, trap metal, etc, plenty of alt kids still around nowadays
plus the old emo bands and their old songs still get hella numbers
Exactly
Counterculture in general will continue to exist
The intro is golden and really captures how a lot of people who are born in the 90s/late 80s feel. Hahahaha.
Can't believe I've been MIA from this channel for so long. geese, glad to be back! :)
if a genre existed, there was a shirtless guy with a webcam crying about it, keeping the universe in balance.
I graduated high school in 2005, so I loved bands like the Used, TBS, and Dashboard... my daughter loves fall out boy and my chemical romance. I really love Lil Peep and I appreciate that you are giving him positive feedback RIP
We can’t talk about emo without the most innovative band in the modern scene.
Canadian Softball. Ok, I’ll see myself out the door
Oh yeah, how could he forget to mention modern baseball
Better yet.. Chinese Football ;)
Armenian foosball
Pakistan Basketball
I was about to comment about how cringy it's getting with all these stupid American Football esque names until I looked it up. Thank god it's a joke.
I love the final point you made about mental health. When I first got into MCR there was a line that Gerard said that has stuck with me for years "It’s okay to be messed up, because there are five other dudes who are just as messed up as you." It seems so juvenile to fall back on that line but as you also said it wasn't a common thing to hear from people back then. And even as I get older, there is still a lot of baggage that I carry with the years, and I think there is comfort in the catharsis or the memory of the catharsis I experienced when I listened to "I am not afraid to keep on living, I am not afraid to walk this world alone..." for the first time. Great vid.
You left out the most influential emo album of the 2000's: Thursday's Full Collapse.
You know, its funny to think that I got into MCR because of a fanfic someone wrote based off of their Danger Days album. It was really well written for a DeviantArt fic, and was really impressive in how it incorperated the lyrics into the plot and characters. Whenever I listen to Danger Days, I can't help but think of those characters. That fic made Scarecrow and DESTROYA the best villain songs ever. And it still blows my mind that they made a Better Living Industries website for that album. It was one of the coolest and creepiest discoveries of my teenage life.
"You just can't stay an emo kid forever"
*Currently; 25, wearing fingerless skeleton gloves, has swoopy hair still, has seven facial piercings.*
Oops, send help I guess.
Swoopy pink hair, heavy black eyeliner, lip ring, 38. Nice to meet you. 😂
Ahhh! Sounds like my kind of friend, feel free to share your insta if you want. I'd love to see some pink swoopy hair lol.
@@zulemazahir666 I JUST dyed it so only a couple of the pink up. But my name is the same on there as it is on here.
@@dead_beatbunny More to look forward to in the future, I just followed you. 😊
Same same just YES
Take This to Your Grave is still a phenomenal album
Their best one.
You sir have distinguished taste so true damn your comment made me throw some OG FOB on spotify. So damn good
It kind of seemed like Emo died down when dubstep got big. Remember when everybody liked dubstep and that was everywhere? oh man ha ha.
Ive always hated dubstep lol I was so tired of hearing it so much
I loved both & still do idc . Emo and dubstep def have room to mix imo which sounds like a crazy opinion but I’m all for experimental shit
Was just talking about this to my boyfriend
Man dubstep was so stupid. Dropped like a fly. Wawawawawawa
@@porkfriedrice1530 dubstep and edm has only grown larger despite it not being in the zeitgeist. you can find a rave playing dubstep before an emo band in most cities
There's some "hyperpop" soundcloud artists that carry over the emo vibes into the stuff they're doing. blackwinterwells and 8485 are good examples. It's like angsty, completely unironic emo bedroom electro pop. Good stuff.
Broooo 8485 is so good😭
EMO ISN"T A PHASE, IT'S A LIFESTYLE
It's a sexual orientation, aka the opposite of straight.
@@AustinPowerz-bn5ry how? stereotypes? yea seems fuckin legit
Can we not compare sexual orientation to lifestyle choices, lmao..
@@zulemazahir666 Sexual deviance is a lifestyle choice.
@@AustinPowerz-bn5ry Yikes. Speaking of choices, I'm definitely not engaging any further than this. Have a nice day I suppose.
Wanna echo the “wild no Jimmy Eat World” mention by someone else and add Thursday as well. No time to mention everyone but those are two pretty heavy hitters in the 2nd to 3rd phase transition to miss!
Thursday never really took off in the mainstream, though. I think they fundamentally rejected that kind of path, underlined by their falling out with Victory Records. Great band, though, very influential for bands that I played in back in the day. I saw them once back in 2001 in a basement in Lancaster, PA, and it was one of the best shows I've ever been to. Saw them again a couple years ago when they played Full Collapse in its entirety, and they had the same raw energy that I remembered from nearly 20 years ago.
Finn refuses to give attention to bands that spark the cult mentality. Thursday, glassjaw, deftones, etc. You rarely hear him mention them except to say he doesn't mention them because they carry such a douchey fanbase.
came to ask about jimmy and thursday as well. between 2000 and 2003 that was the entire presence of emo at my high school. pedrothelion too? though i would guess finn leaves them out for the same reason of preference (pedro was kinda 'i n d i e' ig)
@@terminaldeity Don't want to start an argument, but that just isn't true. Thursday left Victory records and signed to Island records, a major label, and had a top 10 album with War All The Time. They definitely didn't reject the mainstream path, but that path just didn't ultimately suit them.
@@godwarrior3403 yet he mentions pop rock emo and metalcore bands who clearly have a way worse fan base then any of the cult type bands 🤣
Oddly enough this video just answered a question I’ve been having for a while, why do so many people seem to have a problem with teenage girls and what they like? Cause they do decide what gets popular, they travel in packs and have a huge network (usually) that spreads a trend. No wonder the gate keepers are salty.
Teenage girls are the reason people like Justin Bieber, One Direction, and BTS became some of the most popular musicians in the world. Most teenage girls have always just regurgitated everything they see people online doing. They have no real sense of self or what they really like. They just copy everything. If there is any group of people more guilty than others of being posers it is most definitely teenage girls.
I’m 38 and I’ve listened to Emo since 96-97. I never considered The Used Emo. Me and my circle of scene friends considered our selves elitist “too cool for school” kids looked down on people who liked bands like MCR, Avril Lavigne, Paramore etc. We were “cooler” than them because we listened to Thursday, Underoath and The Used.
Now on to The Used which is still my favorite band to this day have me confused as to what genre they should actually be categorized in. Can you do a video on just The Used? I remember watching Bert on the Osbournes and getting pissed on how they portrayed him. He is one of the most genuine guys I have ever met. Their fans are still die hard to this day.
Damn that Dashboard “Vindicated” song sure brought back some angst!
When the intro plays, I always sing in my head, “STRAIGHT TO THE FACE!”
WITH THE TRUUUUUUTH
Me too hah
what is that? is that a band? or just some featured music?
@@puturro His intro use to have vocals and a different logo using the same instrumental. Check out his older videos for clarification.
“With the truth” 😂 I do the same shit
It was this kind of music that made me realize I listen to music for the lyrics first and the instrumentals second.
I think that's why I never got into emo, even if I was "the right" age when it was popular. Never really listened to lyrics in rock/metal, it was all about the pitch of the vocals and the instruments for me.
Which kind of this type of music are you specifically talking about, because if you listened to Fall Out Boy for the lyrics, I don’t know what to tell you, Look, I’ve loved them since I was 12 but I don’t know anyone that does that, their lyrics read like a game of mad libs, but man can they write catchy music, but if you’re talking about bands like Brand New or Bayside, I’m right with you
I listened to a bunch of stuff like After the Burial and Veil of Maya and decided that I'm pretty much the opposite lol. After listening to enough metalcore and other related genres the vocals are more of an instrument than anything else but yeah I'll listen to anything that sounds good however obvious that sounds. Minus the emo stuff that sounds like indie I like a lot of what was mentioned
Check out some of my music then. Way more lyric based
Oddly enough, it was the opposite for me. I found the lyrics to this genre to be hard to understand, so I hooked on to the instrumentals, and I picked up a guitar as a result. Been playing 15 years now lol.
I "looked" Emo? I still am! Forever stuck in 2009!
You may be emo if you dedicate “demolition lovers” to your highschool crush for Valentine’s Day
I’d be interested to hear you unpack what indie is and what you don’t like about it
thought the same. dismissing a genre that is so full of variety seems... idk
Good, it wasn’t just me.
@@datenschutzification he just doesnt like hipsters thats all lol
Like, how could you at least not like The Killers?
I grew up right around the time it was mainstream in the late 2000s, I never understood the emotional side of it, never understood the music, so I instead became a goth at the time and started getting into metal. The emos at high school were very clearly emotional, but I never went emotional much, I just went numb and silently angry. That South Park episode did have some truth and some resonance to it as emos were quite literally everywhere playing their music in class, then there'd be that one goth kid who just blasted Slipknot instead and getting psyched for the mosh pit at lunch.
It sometimes got difficult to tell them apart, you sort of had to get to know them to find out, the music they played was a good indicator, but also if they had colour in their hair and/or spiky hair, they were more likely to be emo as a goth was more likely to have jet black, straightened hair.
Looking back at it, it's just surreal seeing just how different a time it was growing up around it all. As a teenager, I kept my hair long and almost always had my left eye covered up by it and just bottled everything negative up inside, now in my late 20s, I'm happy, free of the inner turmoil and shave my head, but the metal never went away
I personally like Paramore's change in sound. I like the funky style of After Laughter. And Hayley Williams's solo albums are superb. She's really matured as a vocalist and a lyricist.
Gen X: "We're the MTV generation"
Millennials: "We're the MTV2 generation"
Gen Z: "27 club? We aint makin it past 21"
Just like what happened to Disco, old school Punk Rock, Hair Metal and Grunge... What goes up must come down. Plain and simple
As the song goes, disco never died. Disco is dance music with the same beat which allowed the DJ to slap on a new song without disturbing the dance flow. Disco comes from the word discoteca which is Spanish for nightclub.
I believe punk rock went through three generational changes.
Generation 1 was a bunch of WW2 kids in Europe that were poor, homeless, criminals and high on glue, paint and heroin. The music and audience was racist, sexist and violent which is why the music got the punk name. This music was not recorded although the lyrics to some songs have survived.
Generation 2 is when the labels started to water down and more refined punk and make it more mainstream. It also became a fashion statement as the more wealthy people wanted to look poor.
Generation 3: Pop punk which lyrically and socially has nothing to do with the original punk scene.
Grunge, hip hop and nu metal killed hair metal.
Grunge died when the stars died and the bands broke up. Also pop punk and emo became popular.
LR&B music died too esp groups
@@orlock20 Many sources I found say that disco originated from the French discothèque, which didn't mean a nightclub at first. So no, it doesn't have Spanish origins.
But why is it not happening to hip-hop, tho?
But why is it not happening to hip-hop, tho?
Ahh being a mall screamo kid was some of the best years of my life.
Nikki Sixx looked like that in 1982, and Siouxsie of Siouxsie and the Banshees looked like that in 1976. All an evolution from early Glam, Goth and Punk culture. Your TH-cam page is awesome!
My Boy Matt Cutshall is doing the Lord's work out here #END
Finn: Eventually people get older and age out of it.
Me: 35 cranking Dude Ranch by Blink 182... 😳
He was referring to over the top fashion choices, which sadly but inevitably get left behind sooner or later
@@omegazx7236 it just takes time, that's why people stop doing it. Plus you eventually become a wage slave and work doesn't want you coming in looking like that.
@@harpskid that and the fact that alternative fashion looks good when you are 19, but it looks kinda dumb when you are 40. Just another more reason to enjoy youth while it lasts, if you ask me
A New Hope is the best song on that album, hands down
Don't feel bad. You're in good company.
Unrelated to music but the emo kids in high school were easily the nicest clique despite how made fun of they got too. I was one of those kids that got along with pretty much everyone and the emo crowd without a doubt was the most pleasant
Insecure nerds aren't very confrontational so I'm not surprised. No insult intended, as I'm no stranger to being an insecure nerd.
I have to agree. I was the farthest thing from being “emo” in high school but I listened to all the music and went to all the local shows and they were always nothing but nice to me even though they occasionally made fun of me for not dressing like them. It didn’t hurt that I was also friends with Adam Lazarra’s little brother. That kinda gave me some street cred.
For real tho. In high school everyone bullied ne because the only out queer Person and the only people who didn't judge me were the emos
I love that you give props to teenaged girls for deciding what's cool. I -hated- emo, but I can see that it was hugely impactful on my generation to elicit such a huge response from me. Even eyerolled at the start of this video heh. I should mention I was very not cool. Mlerp. I was over there listening to Massive Attack while people eyerolled at me.
We need Matt Cutshall here to prove emo is alive
I was waiting all along that he would mention him hahah
WE NEED YOUR BROKEN HERO!
My absolute first emo experience was seeing “lifetime” in New Jersey followed by “Day Spring” “Shift”
and “Ashes”-the mid 90s era. ✌️
Bro I teared up a bit when note to self played at the beginning! I jammed that song on repeat with my pocket CD player riding on the bus to middle school.
Can’t think of 1 band that came out in early 2000s that didn’t sound like a poor man’s Sunny Day Real Estate. Incredibly ahead of their time, criminally underrated.
Cursive
lol no
I’ve missed “what killed” videos
What Killed “What Killed Videos”?!
I remember when these videos were all over TH-cam a couple of years ago!
I like how you listed my chemical romance twice to really hit home that they’re emo
Through Being Cool is Saves the Day's second album, not first.
I let out a "oof" when I heard him say that
I ran to the comments to make sure that someone would call attention to this.
Yes I noticed that too! And altough Through Being Cool is a fucking banger, Can't Slow Down was always my favorite!
I think "Deciding" Is the best and most energizing Opener to ever be written!! :D
How do you get that wrong?
The Choke: Not just my favorite song anymore, Finn