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WHAT KILLED EMO??
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What killed the 2000s emo bands?? Some of what I discuss:
* The origins of "emocore" with Rites Of Spring, Fugazi, and Dag Nasty
* The 90s emo scene with Get Up Kids, The Promise Ring, and Saves The Day "Through Being Cool"
* The 2000s "mall emo" explosion with Dashboard Confessional, Fall Out Boy, My Chemical Romance, Paramore, The Used, etc
* Emo's legacy: Emo Nite, Lil Peep, Juice Wrld, XXXTENTACION emo rappers like Lil Lotus and guccihighwaters
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0:00 Intro
2:52 The origins of emo
5:00 The "real emo" years (the 90s)
11:20 The "mall screamo" years (the 2000s)
16:29 Emo's legacy
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are the shirts coming in pink?
you failed alot men! where is Blink 182, Sum 41, Simple Plan, Yellowcard, Underoath, Avril. belive it or not, but they were emo culture too!
open.spotify.com/playlist/2q1cjWF4r6npqKlaxZcI3b?si=IAOiVlO2RcSza_KBH9pR7Q
I miss my emo era 😭🖤
Should listen to lucki
U sound like a POSER AND CULTURAL MARXIST
I like how you said "My Chemical Romance" twice in your list of top selling bands in the genre, it works whether you did that on purpose or not.
And Fall Out Boy twice!! I liked both of em
It's like he meant to say pre breakup and post breakup 🥲
But MCR isn’t emo. So. He either doesn’t make sense or is trying to get clicks
@@bowitboy6635 McR is literally text book emo they literally started out as a Emocore band like Thursday
@@Alexmustdie-zy6kz maybe their first album. But the rest is just sad boy pop punk. Emo is supposed to be dark and gritty. Listen to some emo bands and pay attention to the lyrics. They’re super fucked up. Not lyrics about how your girlfriend in high school hurt you and you still miss her. Some emo lyrics will seriously depress the shit out of you with how depressing and dark they are
I saw "emo" and I was immediately summoned to this video.
We see gerard and are compelled. Its not a choice. It where we belong.
@Patrick Licata Yeah that was a fun comp! Just wait til the black parade one comes out!
@Patrick Licata Yup! Actually in the works right now!
Same Bro
So was I
Respect for recognizing how emo really helped to push mental health awareness into the mainstream.
KoRn was doing that at least a decade before Emo ever came around.
Emo was whiny wimps.
And it made rock and metal look like a bunch of bums compared to rap and hip hop, keep in mind this was the same time Kanye West said rappers are the new rockstars. I have nothing against emo but this is just my opinion why rock and metal kind of fell off a bit
@@IanNason-qn9yw As a massive Korn fan, I can safely say that you are the exact kind of person Jonathan was painfully “whining” about in Faget and Clown.
Grunge bands did it before emo did. without whining or self pity or screaming vocals throughout the song.
I think it created more mental health problems as it encouraged and glamorised disenfranchisement and self-loathing, self-pitying.
31 year old emo still going strong right here 🙋🏼♀️ all my friends that were emo back then are also still emo now. Emo will never die 🖤
Dang, a long-hauler. If you ever have any kids they'll probably get into death metal
That's an accomplishment
34 here, ignore the children commenting, they're upset that they were pooping their diapers when the real stuff was out.
Young lady, don't you ever threaten us again🤣
Elder Elmo gang 👏🏻
"What killed Emo ?"
**Matt Cutshall wants to know your location**
Right?!?!?
Its a bit sad that he didnt mentioned matt cutshall. Makes me feel emo, might delete.
This video was recommended after Matt’s latest “Felt Emo” 🖤
Emo's not dead...
That guy is SO annoying. He's literally not even funny.
The year is 2007. You’re sat on the bus on your way to school glaring in the direction of the girl you’re far too awkward to talk to but have dedicated numerous pages of your calligraphy journal titled ‘♥’ to. You just pulled your headphone cable 1cm out of the aux input on your Apple iPod Shuffle (USB stick) to hear the ‘panned left’ screamo-only vocals on the final chorus of FOB’s Saturday because that way Pete’s screams hit you square in the feels and remind you you’ll never be good enough for that girl’s love.
😭
This is why i listened to black flag they skipped all the whiny bs and just stuck it in
Beautiful
Did you steal my diary?
When these open doors were open ended
I fell in with the metalheads at school and rejected the emo scene 🙄 im just discovering all this great music in my early 30's, and thinking man this is good!
Traitor.
@@Jarl_Thidrandi More like double agent 😎
my acquaintances at our local metal scene had some emo roots
@@zeffmalchazeen3429 There's good shit in both genres. When you're in the mood for it Metal goes better with beer, melodic punk/emo goes better with weed. If you're a straight edge type then it doesn't matter :)
Love your exp lol best of both worlds 🤘🏼🤭
I was considered emo back then now I'm considered a metalhead xD but I just enjoy most music 💜
One of my favorite things about MCR is the guitar dynamics between Ray Toro and Frank Iero
reporting for duty
So let's just pretend
Thank u for your service
Im ready for a one take nothing.nowhere album ❤
get on the podcast
YOOOOOO. THE LEGEND IS HERE.
“EMO WILL NEVER DIE”
“alright grandma let’s get you to bed”
Take this to our graves
*cries in emo*
Technically it hasnt because Emo Rap is a big genre now days. And a lot of them are using elements of rock and even having more rock sounds to it soooo ots still kicking its just in a new form
@@piefort99 just saying emo rap isnt even a thing. people just wanted the style to correspond with their own music taste, so they came up with that bs. but emo was formed in the late 80s-early 90s, and it never consisted of rap. and the rap artists people claim to be emo such as lil peep, blackbear, etc. arent even alternative. rap isnt emo.
@@blchpptrtxxx they litterally follow the same rules of emo structure one just has trap drums. A lot of the emo community has accepted emo rappers like peep and Juicewrld because the heart and the soul was there so i dont get whats missing?
“A little less sixteen candles a little more touch me” will forever hold a special place in my heart. Whenever it comes on shuffle I always let it play
Wow. Another person who likes that song. Long live Emo!
I love it too
The video ❤
I gotta say, I love how you always respectfully do retrospective takes on so many topics and challenge viewers to look at it much more fairly.
Listening to MyChem as an older guy really feels so much richer, I did not appreciate the theatre in their music as I just rode the raw emotions when I was a teen\tween
Liza minelli was in "Mama" on the black parade
well said
When I listen to the Black Parade album it feels like a play performed with an orchestra
Right??? I’ve been going back to early MCR and they were so detailed, no wonder they were so good. They’re like the Blink of Emo
Same. I feel like I didn’t appreciate them as much back then as I do now.
I'm honestly surprised there wasn't even a single mention of Jimmy eat world. They were the biggest band to transition from the mid to late 90s emo to the early 2000s emo.
How the flying fuck are they emo?
The shift from Clarity to Bleed American couldn't be a better example of 'underground to overground'. Still, can't mention everyone I suppose.
@@SuperRat420 They started in the underground emo scene
Yeah that's a really good point
@@SuperRat420 emo fans widely consider them one of the greatest emo bands of all time
Some of the best years of my life. Going to FYE on Saturdays and buying CDs 💿 , going to Hot Topic and buying studded belts and band tees, downloading on shitty Bear Share and Lime Wire and making mixed CDs me and my younger sister would play and play. It was right before iTunes blew up. I remember being depressed but now in retrospect, it was fun times ❤️
I remember being 11 and seeing welcome to the black parade for the first time, that was so cool, it was something that I have never seen before. When I discovered what emo was I felt like I've found my people, I was always atracted to darker aestethics even as a kid, and at the time we had a big scene here in Brazil too, a lot of local bands.
It was great, but my parents didn't let me go anywhere, so it was really sad that when I was finally able to start going places, emo was already dying.
the fact that Gerard took the time and got better after such dark times is so inspiring
"What killed Emo?"
Emo killed itself.
Lmao underrated comment
I see what you did there
"I'm so emo, I broke myself in half"
Lmfao
No one saw the signs.
That mental health part was spot on. I remember parents and teachers asking if kids were alright or checking the wrist area for cuts. It definitely brought awareness and opened the door to talk about mental health in the mainstream. Keep it up the great work 🙌🏼💪🏼
Could be argued that it influenced kids to think scratching yourself up with a razor was cool. Kinda seemed that way at the time.
I remember being in the confused stage between trying to fit in with preppy clothes but having the emo bangs with my Abercrombie sweater. Eventually transitioned to dyed black hair and band shirts from hot topic, felt legit.
That's how it started with me as well in 8th grade. I eventually made the full transition in June 2020 and got into more bands ever since.
Emo music made me feel like my depression wasn't an isolated incident, where I wasn't the only one who felt that way, while giving words to the suicidal and self-shaming thoughts that left me feeling empty. Being able to listen to the music gave me the creative energy to write about how I felt during an emotional state where the word energy was fickle if not non-existent. It also helped me understand why my brothers behaved the way they did, although a belated realization, and in turn allowed me to accept them. I always have said the best time to live is right now. We are more moral and ethical because of our technological and medical advancements and surprisingly emo music pushed this world forward when it comes to mental health, through both self-analysis and through psychological evaluations. Emo music is not an aesthetic but a lifestyle and a means of creating and fostering empathy. If we can embrace the inner angst and externalize it we can not only support with following generations but empathize with them in a different way.
I mean how many other generations can tell their kids about piercing their own lips with a needle and hand sanitizer and getting weekly infections for like seven months on end while considering self-piercing other parts of the face because "it wasn't that bad," until giving up because it was that bad because facial piercings are hot? Do you have any idea how much blood can come out of a hole in your lip? More than it should, much, much more...
👏👏👏yes
Oh I hear you, and you missed the rave years of 90’s - early 2000’s. There were people that had multiple lip piercings at raves back then (overlap perhaps) but I will take kids dressed in black with eye liner over kids dressed in candy colored fun fur outfits with Big plastic wallet chains (oh yeah that was a thing, Happy Hardcore was not my thing (!) )
👏👏this!!!!👏👏
@@sawtooth808 lol omg when you said happy hardcore you triggerd my memory banks i totally forgot about that bastard child of a genre
Eh.. alot of emo kids lacked empathy. I outgrew alot of that stuff and those people. Self absorption at its finest. Some of us turned out how you described tho
"Guys with an office job but still dress in black and go to emo night."
I made it in a Punk Rock MBA video!
ive been to emo nite. they had in LA .. its so sad how old we are now
Seriously thank you for mentioning the mental health part. The 2000s were some of the hardest years of my life but also the most beautiful because of the relationships I built through music.
The Used were the first emo band Id ever heard, other than the get up kids. The Used took MCR on tour to support them. They went from opening Vans Warped tour to headlining it the next year. The used are the main one for me.
“You can’t be that emo kid forever”
:Matt Cutshall is typing.....:
Felt emo again might delete...
Half true: you cannot be a kid forever. Still it is possible to be Emo - forever. Being Emo isn't restricted by age, even an old, retired guy like me can be Emo. Hell, yeah !
❤ (2 B) Emo 4 ever
Nope I'm not even emo way long ago
Well kind of I was really into it and then I just fell out of it but kind of picked it back up again not the same as before but still there
I came here looking for cutshall comments xD
As a former punk, then soldier, now counselor to bring it full-circle, I am glad you mentioned the mental health awareness. A very important part of music that everyone else misses the mark on. Love the channel and what you’re doing.
Thank-You Sincerily for your service and sacrifices you made -to protect our country, Good-Sir.
I just want to know how you go from punk to soldier? Seems like completely different ideologies no?
This video was awesome. I was NOT expecting the whole history of Emo (starting w/ Rites of Spring), but I am definitely glad you included all that to put it into context.
I love how many band names you can name-drop. you truly know your stuff
P.S. never heard of the term 'twinkle daddy' before now. gonna have to use that more, lol
Being a teenage in the 2000s with extreme depression and suicidal desires, emo helped me a lot. Artists like Dashboard and Bright Eyes made me feel understood when no one else could and inspired me to make art and music which literally kept me alive.
Watching this video made me feel the need to call my parents and remind them they still don't understand me and have no idea what I'm going through.
Haha this is the funniest comment I've ever seen on TH-cam. Tremendous.
😂
Oh boy, you saying that made me laugh and then I realised that I think that almost every week, sometimes less, sometimes more often. I think I'm becoming emo
All the old Escape The Fate songs used in the news clips brings nostalgia
Yesssss! I caught that too... DIYLF slapped big time... love it lol
I think a big part of what killed Emo was the 2007-2008 recession. When I was in HS, a big part of emo was aesthetically participating in it, buying things to represent and be part of it. When wallets got tight, that was no longer possible, and without the participation potential, people moved on to cheaper genres of styles, and the music industry took that as a sign that the genre was dead, so they cut funding to those bands. Just a theory.
I agree with that theory. plus the millennial generation was hitting college. the millennial generation was last generation which rock was popular. for gen z it hip hop at least in us. in Japan rock still going strong.
I graduated high school in 2005, so I loved bands like the Used, TBS, and Dashboard... my daughter loves fall out boy and my chemical romance. I really love Lil Peep and I appreciate that you are giving him positive feedback RIP
Hardcore kid: *Starts talking shit*
Me: "Whoa don't make me pull up your myspace buddy"
Hardcore? More like 2007's metalcore
@@ThatShitGood Noo hold there, 2007 was peak emo sounds especially with the clean vocals Lol!
I don't know if you remember the hardcore kids shitting on bands like As I Lay Dying for too much melody and the clean vocals which made them go full rage mode, I found it funny..
My old higschool myspace is still out there, a time capsule. I can't get back into it. But... no regerts.
midwest emo revival is still keeping emo strong as well. like real friends, modern baseball, into american football and joan of arc making music again, midwest math rock like tiny moving parts, ttng, algernon cadwallader, remo drive. so many of these bands have kept emo fresh into 2021.
Glad I found this comment lol, was going to make a similar one now I don't have to. You hit the nail on the head.
It's frustrating that keeps politely denouncing these sorts of emo bands as he doesn't like 'the indie rock sound, but that WAS and still IS the sound of emo to many people. Especially those who were there before it became fused with pop punk. The fact that that initial sound gained a resurgence in the 2010s is barely mentioned here. The World is a Beautiful Place & I'm Not Afraid to Die; empire! empire" (I was a lonely estate); & Brave Little Abacus.
Ok..and Ville Valo is back! HIM seperated but there is still VV.
Can’t think of 1 band that came out in early 2000s that didn’t sound like a poor man’s Sunny Day Real Estate. Incredibly ahead of their time, criminally underrated.
Cursive
lol no
still screamingly sings "helena", "note to self" sometimes on a karaoke bar with coworkers after a corporate dinner in japan :)...life may move on but the emo kid still lives and kicks inside :)
"Goofy hair cuts" sir this is my CULTURE you're talking about
Absolute facts! It’s a lifestyle dad! Also who the fuck says emo is dead?? 😂 it never died it can’t die and it will never die
I’m that emo kid who loved the used and senses fail, and now I listen to Tiny Moving Parts and If I Die First. Love this video, my dude
I hope SF goes back to metalcore. I'm still that metalcore dude.
@@jasonlovesmusicreacting882 I can respect that. My favorite era will always be Life Is Not a Waiting Room, but The Fire slaps pretty heavy. Can’t say I’ve listened to Renacer or Pull The Thorns
So I’m not the only one who listens to if I die first
Omg I love TMP man
I honestly believe their EP last year was the best thing to come out of 2020
You know, its funny to think that I got into MCR because of a fanfic someone wrote based off of their Danger Days album. It was really well written for a DeviantArt fic, and was really impressive in how it incorperated the lyrics into the plot and characters. Whenever I listen to Danger Days, I can't help but think of those characters. That fic made Scarecrow and DESTROYA the best villain songs ever. And it still blows my mind that they made a Better Living Industries website for that album. It was one of the coolest and creepiest discoveries of my teenage life.
You never mentioned how pete wentz pushed out bands like Panic!, the academy is, and gym class heroes...... dude deserves credit for his contributions to the emo scene.
Panic isn't emo
Most emo people I knew back then, are still emo lmao. They changed it up a little, but they still have colored hair, tattoos, and punk rock clothes 😂♥️
That's awesome :D
I'll still clip some side hair 🤣 still have tats.. still love harder music.. but didn't know I was emo.. just liked what I liked haha 🤷♀️
Can confirm, still emo hahaha. Colored hair, tattoos, ripped jeans and I am a CPS specialist with a BSW.
I also changed something a little bit, like, not wearing so much stuff and not look like a teen, but I still like to dress like this, that cool haircut and, of course, emo music :)
Emos NOT DEAD !!
I don't do that anymore but sometimes I dress up take a few pics then take it all off for fun
crazy to think i'm hitting 30 and still cannot find music I like. I'm stuck in a late 90s to mid 2000s loop lol. I'll forever be emo.
I'm verging 30 as well, and I have no trouble finding music I like... as long as I'm looking at music from 15 or 20 years ago or older :p
I kid, but it is kinda true.
Well modern metal might become an exception if you search for it.
Turned 27 last month and I'm the same way. Music I grew up with is pretty much all I listen to because I just don't enjoy the music that's coming out nowadays. Last artists I discovered that I actually like were Sithu Aye and Plini back in 2016, but I'm not keen on their newer stuff.
Same
I was like that, but then I got into the emo rap/trap scene, and these kids are pretty much carrying on the legacy and innovating off of it. XXXtentacion in particular really impressed me with just how diverse was.
There's some "hyperpop" soundcloud artists that carry over the emo vibes into the stuff they're doing. blackwinterwells and 8485 are good examples. It's like angsty, completely unironic emo bedroom electro pop. Good stuff.
Broooo 8485 is so good😭
I’m 38 and I’ve listened to Emo since 96-97. I never considered The Used Emo. Me and my circle of scene friends considered our selves elitist “too cool for school” kids looked down on people who liked bands like MCR, Avril Lavigne, Paramore etc. We were “cooler” than them because we listened to Thursday, Underoath and The Used.
Now on to The Used which is still my favorite band to this day have me confused as to what genre they should actually be categorized in. Can you do a video on just The Used? I remember watching Bert on the Osbournes and getting pissed on how they portrayed him. He is one of the most genuine guys I have ever met. Their fans are still die hard to this day.
"You can still be that emo kid inside." Until an emo song comes on in work and you look around and nearly everyone is singing along lol
The black parade starts
Theres a monthly emo night event in my city and yep most that attend are 25+ y/o still in their office attire (cause its on friday nights😂)
He feels so strong about indie for some reason it cracks me up
Which is utterly stupid because the only thing it ever meant is "independent".
I don’t see the issue myself :P
@Ben McCann
Nope. When people say "indie" they're refering to a specific type of lame trustfund rock, but you knew that.
Yeah this guy doesn't like indie stuff, yet he likes emo rap 🤔
@@nativeswagho5213 lol I dont think Isaac Brock is a trust fund kid but ok
I personally like Paramore's change in sound. I like the funky style of After Laughter. And Hayley Williams's solo albums are superb. She's really matured as a vocalist and a lyricist.
I "looked" Emo? I still am! Forever stuck in 2009!
Dude I used to work with the girl from the Fox 11 interview about Emo hahahaha
So wild ahahaha 😅😂
really? lol
She still emo?
Haha me too. Guitar Center?
hhiiii i love you
Wow, My Chem was so important, he listed them twice at the beginning.
Or AFI who inspired the MCR generation of bands and the ETF generation of bands and probably even the current generation... I think he somehow never mentions AFI even once
And he listed Fall Out Boy twice in a list later on in the video!
Knew I wasnt the only one.
I'm always disappointed that no one ever mentions Circle Takes The Square. Then again, they were in a league of their own.
as the roots undo was one of my favorite albums as a kid. Changed my life.
I love that you give props to teenaged girls for deciding what's cool. I -hated- emo, but I can see that it was hugely impactful on my generation to elicit such a huge response from me. Even eyerolled at the start of this video heh. I should mention I was very not cool. Mlerp. I was over there listening to Massive Attack while people eyerolled at me.
0:32 "bands like fall out boy, my chemical romance, paramore, panic at the disco, and my chemical romance". homie you must really like mcr
Well they are the punk ambassador of the 2000s.
I heard it too I thought I was trippin lol
he also listed FOB twice during the intro to the Mall Emo section of the video.
Don't we all?
The first Used album is still incredible
Exactly!
Fuck yes
Yup. And in my opinion In Love and Death is Better. Both those records still hold up
Heartwork is just as 👏 🙀
@@Nanokeeps you misspelled Artwork.
Lol kidding, I didn’t think Heartwork was bad, definitely their best shit in a long time
Emo and pink rock, really helped me channel my teenage angst. I am 41 so I was listening more to 90s emo in HS. At the time I was undiagnosed with Autistm, ADHD, and Anxiety. Music was how I processed my emotions (and kinda still is). It's interesting because the first band that I really resonated with that I heard called Emo was Sense Field. I would play their albulm Building on repeat, especially when I felt alone. My experience of Emo and shows in general was more of the small venues in San Francisco that felt like basements and me being one of the only girls, feeling a little isolated (though that was my whole life as a "weird girl"), but finding comfort in music. It's interesting talking to other friends about Emo who discovered Emo with MCR and some were scene kids, cause their experience sounded pretty different. Still im considering going to an Emo night which I assume will be more 2000s Emo. I'm happy to scream/sing "I'm Not Okay" with the rest of them. The emotion is what unites us, right?
I think emo was definitely a product of its time. I still jam out to emo. I’m still find some smaller underground emo bands touring these days. But definitely nothing like the 2000’s.
My emo years were mid-late 2000s listening to Silverstein, Taking Back Sunday and basically anything on Victory Records. Years later as a equally sad adult i discovered "real emo" basically all those Jade Tree and Revelation artists you mentioned
Silverstein takes me back
Victory Records would have died without the huge indecent success of Thursday's Full Collapse.
Hell yeah, victory records had good shit. Aiden and Silverstein were my favorite bands throughout middle/high school
I’m still rocking out to Silverstein
Thrice!!
“Bands like fall Out Boy, My chemical romance, Paramore, panic at the disco, and My Chemical Romance” lol so popular you had to say it twice huh?
I was hoping someone else caught that lol
They were the best band from that era so makes sense lol
yes
@@joshhuxleyisdead Not the best, only the more popular emo band.
Okay, so here's a thought I had recently.
While I didn't dress or styled myself like an emo kid back then, I was big into the music. When I had cancelled classes mid-day I used to use walk around the perimeter of the school yard, even if it rained (actually especially when it rained) fo the full 90 minutes. I was a massive loner (still am) and had very few friends (same today).
I did move on from that music eventually but I came back to it recently. And I got really happy listening to it. the energy, the heavy guitars, the screaming, the melodic choruses I had not realised how much I had missed it. But then I remembered that sad feeling I had back then and while I got that warm nostalgic feeling for a second one thing became very obvious to me.
I was recently diagnosed with anxiety coupled with a possible depression. And I suddenly realized why I got so clingy to that nostalgic warm feeling was the fact, that back then it was "just" this "innocent" mind set, you know, this style you chose to wear but nowadays you are sick of this feeling because you know that - despite it being the same feeling - you have mental health issues.
So what made me happy that moment wasn't the teleportation back to the sadness and such back then, but the blissful ignorance i had regarding my mental health. The "oh boy, if only you knew how fucked up your mental health is".
Thinking back, on how I behaved, what my thoughts were and how issues / experiences from back then are still affecting me today, 12-15 years later, yeah, I truly believe I have had a anxiety and depression back then with several cases of trauma which depresses me even more right now.
So, you used to listen to MCR, ADTR, Paramore, P@nic, FallOut, etc? Hows therapy going? You don't have therapy... you might wanna check in with your doc...
One modern incarnation that never gets talked about in these kinds of videos, but is really keeping emo alive in my mind is the current “emo rock” or what you called “rock flavor” bands that are sort of the next evolution of Gameface and Texas is the reason. Some of the big ones that come to mind are Basement and Citizen. Even a heavier bummercore band like Nothing fits in there to me. This stuff is still growing and has a big underground scene.
I still find it super ironic that people say that Paramore “stopped being emo” when the lyrical content of After Laughter is way more “emo” than the lyrical content on Riot!, not only that but it’s also crazy to think that the last rock musician to become a legit pop star was a bassist who used to be part of the hardcore, also I feel like mutual love of Fall Out Boy was the thing that brought teeny boppers and emos together in the mid-late 2000s, they truly were the “scene’s” boy band
yes.
But they lost the rock. Emo is short for emotic rock now there just emotic pop.
Jared Leto, Adam Levine, and Chris Martin have entered the "last rock musician pop star" chat. John Mayer also has a seat at the table. They were both bigger at the time and the first three are bigger still today than Pete Wentz is/was, minus Leto whose band wasn't around during the heyday of mall emo but he's a bona fide A-list celeb, something Wentz wasn't exactly, tho huge in the teen world.
@@armandomorales3809 actually emo is short for emotional hardcore
@@kittykittybangbang9367 always heard emo to be short for emotic rock. Emo didn't start as hardcore?
Facebook is the reason. It killed Myspace and therefore Emo (this kind of emo and style)
You’ve never been to the emo side of Facebook I see
Scremo and punk saved my life tbh. I still listen to those genres about 80% of the time. Certain songs really stuck out and saved my life. I cannot skip them no matter how much I listened to them. Mostly as a sentimental thing and a little thank you.
Nikki Sixx looked like that in 1982, and Siouxsie of Siouxsie and the Banshees looked like that in 1976. All an evolution from early Glam, Goth and Punk culture. Your TH-cam page is awesome!
When the intro plays, I always sing in my head, “STRAIGHT TO THE FACE!”
WITH THE TRUUUUUUTH
Me too hah
what is that? is that a band? or just some featured music?
@@puturro His intro use to have vocals and a different logo using the same instrumental. Check out his older videos for clarification.
“With the truth” 😂 I do the same shit
As someone who likes to consider themselves as a “graphic designer” I really appreciate the way you incorporate the use of graphic design in album cover art, thank you sir
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What was funny about emo of the mid 90s was that a lot of hardcore kids like me almost felt like we were betraying the hc scene by allowing ourselves to enjoy and be into music that was not solely screaming music. It's like we needed permission by other hc people that this music was ok to like. Pretty soon bands like Still Life, Texas is the Reason, and Sense Field were playing shows with hc bands and that set the stage for hc kids of that era to broaden their music horizons.
I got on the emo train at its last stop, I can’t stop listening, I have to make up for all those years I missed 😂 i still keep up with my favorite washed up bands new albums to compensate lol
Hawthorne Heights was the Pinnacle of Emo Music
R.I.P to the Guitarist (Screamer) Casey Calvert
Yes Hawthorne Heights although not as famous as the bands he listed they were truly emo
They and especially If only you were lonely is the only thing in this vein still heavily in rotation
Also surprised his name wasn’t mentioned when Finn talked about the awareness of mental health/addiction
I miss him :(
Sounds suspicious.
i’m glad that it’s slightly cooler now to listen to and dress “emo” now that a large amount of popular artists have early 2000s emo influence. i was pretty heavily involved in the scene 2013-2017, which was honestly not the best time to be into mall emo and pop punk. anyways, it’s dope that i can dig out my old studded belt from early middle school, wear an old mcr shirt, and listen to a taking back sunday song at 18 years old and not feel ashamed to do so. a lot of the artists outside of punk and rock that i’ve looked up to in rap music and such are also into the same stuff i was into at 15, so that’s dope as fuck too.
The Get Up Kids something to write home about was 100% perfect. Saves the day first album was can’t slow down right?
I am from Michigan and I was a teenager during the midd 2000‘s when MCR and chiodos and from first to last were really popular. I was a bit sheltered so the emo bands I did listen to were pretty limited but being a miserable kid in Michigan I felt like a related to it so much LOL
Normal 28 year olds with office jobs.. Oof, that one hit me.
You're never too old. Gerard was in his mid twenties when MCR released their first album.
I just turned 28 yesterday . “I’m still not okay”tho 👩🏾🎤🤣💔😂
He explained me perfectly 🤣
I'm 27 and still dress a bit alternative. Everyone wears bright colours like yellow and baby blue these days, so I dress in monochrome. Grey shirts all the way.
We can’t talk about emo without the most innovative band in the modern scene.
Canadian Softball. Ok, I’ll see myself out the door
Oh yeah, how could he forget to mention modern baseball
Better yet.. Chinese Football ;)
Armenian foosball
Pakistan Basketball
I was about to comment about how cringy it's getting with all these stupid American Football esque names until I looked it up. Thank god it's a joke.
at 12:17 he says "What a time to be alive" which is a line from the new fall out boy album
YOU CAN SEE THE FUTURE
I remember back in 2005 you would see Emo kids everywhere. I would drive past the Train station and there would be like 50 on the platform and like 20-30 sitting on the side gutters hanging out, smoking and blasting their music. I would go to the shopping Centre ( Mall for American's ) and there would be Hundreds of them walking about. All my older cousins were Emo's and as I was approaching late primary school alot of the kids that were in the older grades begun dying their hair black and growing a fringe. In those days it seemed an entire Generation had changed over night to this completely weird faze. Then by mid high school or 2010 It had all suddenly begun vanishing and you would only see Emo kids in the inner city or at certain locations such as Emo bars or hotspots where they like to hang out.
Ah Finn "bands like my chemical romance, fall out boy, paramore and my chemical romance"
And my chemical romance
Don’t forget my chemical romance
@@LOU-oo9zx no no no don’t fucking forget my chemical romance!!!
Emo rap?
I almost forgot to include My Chemical Romance
“Weezer was an emo band”
“Yeah sure grandpa let’s get you to bed”
I'd argue Pinkerton was emo but everything else nag
@@Awesomebaconman123 Blue Album and Pinkterton.
@@LuciusGeronimo nah
Pinkerton is like quintessential emo
They were definitely Whiney enough to be emo
I strictly listen to a pop punk Playlist on pandora while at work in an office, and it made me love that Saves the Day album, which I had never actually heard before.
What killed emo was the rest of society. Everyone hated emo's. Whether it was mainstream society or metal heads, goths, punks etc.. everyone held some kind of stigma against emos, and bullied and harassed them accordingly. Nobody wanted to be emo when everybody hated them. Emo wasn't a phase, it was a whole ass fuckin sub culture. I'm 28 still considered to be emo by many. And I've had a pretty good life despite it, I've got a bachelors degree in psychology and am currently studying for my masters degree in clinical psychology. Held many high positions in jobs in various fields ranging from retail to finance. I have many great friends and have had many great relationships, the point I'm trying to make is that "growing up" isn't a viable answer to what happened to emo. It was killed by immaturity, elitism and close mindedness.
Yeah obviously it was a phase for some people, but that doesn't make emo itself a phase, don't berate a subculture because you're not a part of it.
This text isn't aimed at anyone in particular after watching the video I just wanted to give an insiders perspective to emo.
I hope you all have a wonderful day, and stay safe x
It was this kind of music that made me realize I listen to music for the lyrics first and the instrumentals second.
I think that's why I never got into emo, even if I was "the right" age when it was popular. Never really listened to lyrics in rock/metal, it was all about the pitch of the vocals and the instruments for me.
Which kind of this type of music are you specifically talking about, because if you listened to Fall Out Boy for the lyrics, I don’t know what to tell you, Look, I’ve loved them since I was 12 but I don’t know anyone that does that, their lyrics read like a game of mad libs, but man can they write catchy music, but if you’re talking about bands like Brand New or Bayside, I’m right with you
I listened to a bunch of stuff like After the Burial and Veil of Maya and decided that I'm pretty much the opposite lol. After listening to enough metalcore and other related genres the vocals are more of an instrument than anything else but yeah I'll listen to anything that sounds good however obvious that sounds. Minus the emo stuff that sounds like indie I like a lot of what was mentioned
Check out some of my music then. Way more lyric based
Oddly enough, it was the opposite for me. I found the lyrics to this genre to be hard to understand, so I hooked on to the instrumentals, and I picked up a guitar as a result. Been playing 15 years now lol.
"You just can't stay an emo kid forever"
*Currently; 25, wearing fingerless skeleton gloves, has swoopy hair still, has seven facial piercings.*
Oops, send help I guess.
Swoopy pink hair, heavy black eyeliner, lip ring, 38. Nice to meet you. 😂
Ahhh! Sounds like my kind of friend, feel free to share your insta if you want. I'd love to see some pink swoopy hair lol.
@@zulemazahir666 I JUST dyed it so only a couple of the pink up. But my name is the same on there as it is on here.
@@dead_beatbunny More to look forward to in the future, I just followed you. 😊
Same same just YES
What about late 90s emo (Cap'n Jazz, The Get Up Kids, Sunny Day Real Estate, Jawbreaker, etc)? Btw, I'm not an emo, I'm a metalhead that cranks up Iron Maiden and Saxon 24/7
Yep Jawbreaker and SDRE… soooo goood…
EMO WAS JUST GLAM METAL FOR THE 2000S!
"Dashboard Confessional"
*MY HOPES ARE SO HIGH THAT YOUR KISS MIGHT KILL MEEEEEE*
SO WONT YOU KILL MEEEE, SO I DIE HAPPY
if a genre existed, there was a shirtless guy with a webcam crying about it, keeping the universe in balance.
Minus the Raid nonsense (respect the game tho), this was one of the best videos in awhile. Always enjoy when you cover history of scene. Emo's legacy still lives on even if the style has died out
I'm 44 and for some reason never got out of the emo stage of life lol. I suppose my style isn't as hardcore emo as it once was, but I'm also raising a totally emo kid who's about to turn 18. Idk what it is that I still can relate to in my old age😂😂
"you generally can't be emo into your 20s" *me with my underoath shirt and purple skunk stripe in my hair at age 20* 😳😳
Im 30 now but id still rock all of my band shirts if i could fit into them 😝
20 is late teens
Having been an emo kid, I'm a super big fan of the new modern emo sound. The whole midwest emo revival scene is really cool too.
Who says emo is dead? There are still amazing emo bands that are new. Emo will never die!
I started my Emo phase this year
Finn Mckenty: You can't be emo at 25
Me: Hold my eyeliner....
*GUYliner
Haha
@@redlaserfox3988 fuckin beat me to it lol.
Hahahaha straight up
I noticed that there is a pattern with alt trends in which teenagers stick with them in a sometimes very cringe way, then people in their 20s get rid of the cringe part and finally as adults with jobs and stuff the fashion choices become much more homogenized, which is sad but inevitable since eyeliner, thuds and striped gloves would look weird as fuck on people at the age of 40
@@omegazx7236 I don't care what other people will think about me when I'm older because I will rock the style I have right now and listen to the same bands for the rest of my life and give 2 middle fingers to all of the haters. And besides, getting older may be mandatory, but growing up is optional.
I had an emo phase, and I'm still emo inside. Remembering this brings me nostalgia, and memories! I agree with you Finn when you say that Emo has helped people see that depression and anxiety, and other mental illnesses are not frills. Excellent video !!
I have always loved very melodic and haunting melodies which is why I loved alot of "emo" music between like 1999-2006, I definitely still listen to some songs today on car rides as it brings me back to being a teenager in the early 2000s.
THANK YOU for talking about Fall Out Boy being hardcore! Not to freak out about them, but i wanna go further into that as i find it interesting.
Andy Hurley, Pete Wentz, and Joe Trohman were all in the hardcore scene in the 90s. The start of Fall Out Boy, in 2002, they wanted to make something less hardcore that they called "Chicago Softcore" (seen on old merch). They were all vegan, Pete had locs, Patrick had a buzzcut, Joe was jumping around at 15 in shows and Andy was playing drums for hardcore bands.
Listen to Evening Out With Your Girlfriend EP (early 2003) it's terrible but it really encapsulates the sound of their hardcore roots and the new emo genre forming in the sound of pop-punk/pop-rock. They also had a split EP (2002) with Project Rocket, a band Andy drummed for.
I never went to the extremes of changing my hair or painting my fingernails or anything, but Emo was and still is my shit. I don’t think I’ll ever stop listening to it.
EMO ISN"T A PHASE, IT'S A LIFESTYLE
It's a sexual orientation, aka the opposite of straight.
@@AustinPowerz-bn5ry how? stereotypes? yea seems fuckin legit
Can we not compare sexual orientation to lifestyle choices, lmao..
@@zulemazahir666 Sexual deviance is a lifestyle choice.
@@AustinPowerz-bn5ry Yikes. Speaking of choices, I'm definitely not engaging any further than this. Have a nice day I suppose.
Emo killed emo it's similar to the grunge phase it fizzled out quick