The Father King Aelfred! Final Ancient Order Member Guide Assassins Creed Valhalla 56
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Fun Fact:
Not many Americans may know this, but that old woman and her cakes is a reference to a popular tale about humility that was taught to many children in England. When Alfred was under hiding at a peasant’s house he was given the task to keep an eye on some cakes, but he’s too deep in thought about reclaiming Wessex from the Vikings that the cakes got burnt. The old woman scolded him and Alfred, despite being King of Wessex, simple apologizes.
Haha yep! So interesting, I watched the Last Kingdom too, King Alfred is a really interesting historical figure.
And this story was recorded by Asser, a monk you meet in Winchestre
Interesting indeed. The funny thing is turns out in AC's interpretation Eivor is partially to blame for the burnt cakes because he distracted Alfred...
There is also a scene in Last Kingdom S01E07 where Alfred accidentally burns the bread.
Why only Americans?
Do all other nations know?
This is a great way to show how the Templars evolved from the the Ancients. One killing the rest of them off to create the Templars, more focused around the Christian ideals of humans being good and important instead of being secondary and unworthy to the Isu. Yet still holding onto the ideas of Order and control. Brilliant work.
Yep, one of the only good scenes in modern Assassin's Creed games
I wonder at what point the Assassins/Hidden Ones discovered the Templars weren't that different from the Order and decided to assassinate them too.
Yup. The original Assassins Creed games showed us the Templars still value order and power. They still seek knowledge and artifacts of the ISU to gain power and control humanity. While their beliefs are still around Christian ideals, they believe power is the only way forward. They believe free will is a flaw that needs to be corrected. They slay anyone who doesn’t follow Christian ideals believing Christianity is the only source of divine enlightenment. The Templars are just an evolved part of the Order, they know the ISU are not gods to be worshipped, but they understood their power, and will do anything to obtain that power for themselves rather than study it and learn from it. It’s a shame really.
The Templar Order became less Christian and are more focused on they think is practical for the better for all mankind. In order to achieve true peace, the will of those who lack understanding are subject to Templars; one body that guides everyone into a better future. Mankind is feeble and is prone to chaotic violence which is why the Templars seek power and control. I’m not saying they’re completely right but I understand why they do it. It’s not pretty but like William Johnson said “Tis the way of the world”.
Bayek hearing that the Order of the Ancients was destroyed by Eivor: :D
Altair, Ezio, Connor, Aveline, Edward, Arno, Jacob, Evie and Desmond hearing Eivor singlehandedly brought about the beginning of the Templars: >:O
Lol! Cool to see someone else played all the AC games.
tbh Templars are way, WAY better than the Order.
@@ajayavsm7476 yeah because Aelfred is better
It was the Templars and Eivor who killed the Order. Unlike Templars, the Order are strictly misanthropic religious cult and care not for the billions they slaughter for their goals.
So eivor it the father of understanding that guide aelfred😂
How can you shut up Reda, always I listenning the same story: "Now this one, this one begins in a long time ago...
LOL true!
After letting him finish the story, and talking to him afterwards, it should shut the brat up for good.
It's a bit buggy though, so I had to do it twice.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I've heard him tell that story about 60 times
You need to stand against the pole that's in the tent by him, and listen to the whole story. He'll then stfu. It was doing my head in until I realised. He doesn't say anything now.
I’m very happy that they didn’t make King Alfred The Great a evil villain. Funny that they ended it when the Vikings “conquered Wessex” since right after this ending Alfred is going to destroy the Vikings in a final battle which will make guthrum convert to Christianity. Vikings never gained any land in England after that battle until 150 years later. But they want to end it with the Vikings “winning”.
Yep, bad place to end it, maybe they'll make DLC expansion with more of Aelfred, I really liked his character and story too
He didnt destroy the Vikings. The Vikings still had a stronghold all over England even though they never conquered wessex. There wouldn't even be a king of all of England until Alfred's grandson Aethelstan. So he didnt really accomplish anything other than stopping the vikings from conquering lands he already ruled. Besides, just awhile after Aethelstan, Cnut became King of England and he was a viking. He was king until he died. Then of course there was William the Conqueror (and Harold Hardrada was the last Viking with any chance of taking the throne of England), but he wasnt a viking. His ancestors were, but him and several generations before him all the way up to Rollo (William's great great great grandfather) were born and raised in Normandy, France.
@@joshuatraffanstedt2695 Guthrms army was completely destroyed though. Even guthrum himself converted to Christianity which heavily decreased the morale of the Vikings. The Vikings were so shocked by alfreds courage in the battle that they wouldn’t attack his kingdom for another 8 years, and when they attacked again they lost the major city of London and Alfred declared himself king of all Saxons because of this. The Vikings would never gain more land in England until around 150 years later, so I think it’s safe to say King Alfred is a man the Vikings would never dare face again.
150 years later there werent any vikings. William the conquerer was far from a viking his great ganddad Rollo was a viking but he wasnt really one. Just the count of Normandy and later king of England
@@KoenBoyful I was talking about cnut the great and his conquest of England
10:41
"I have to..."
"Then go and pee"
You ever play Ace Attorney?
Maya: "I have to pee..."
Wright: "HOLD IT!"
This series needs more characters like Aelfred. I kinda hated him at times but also admired him. He was a character that wasn't evil but was simply your enemy. Yet despite that, he helped you in the end and you helped him.
It's a complex relationship and that made him so interesting.
More characters like that and less moustache twirling baddies who have shallow motives to be villains.
And it's a real shame many people didn't see it, you had to do all the postgame stuff but yeah, really interesting character that reminds me of when Assassin's Creed had better story and villains.
@@BAIGAMING this game is one of the best, but aelfred isn't a villain in real history
Indeed but in reality he wasn't evil the Vikings sure were though XD
Much like the same figure in The Last Kingdom, very well written to be both lovable and hatable.
@@intimestudios there is no real heroes or villains in history
I...actually like this guy. Annoyed he stabbed Eivor in the back, but he sticks to his principles and has a pretty strong moral compass. Difficult not to respect that.
Agreed! Though I wish they continued his plotline a bit further to reflect what he did in real-life
He’s a character on a video-game, grow up and get a life.
@@Fsoricko he was also a real king, and its quite interesting to see how developers reimagined his personality
@@BAIGAMING they might in the dlcs
@@Fsoricko So? We want just an Aelfred based on real life a bit more...
the place alfred is looks like its straight out of "The Last Kingdom" series, they even include the burnt cakes fable in this part
Look at Young Ragnar from The last kingdom and Sigurd.. looks like twins
Because that actually happened. They didnt get it from The Last Kingdom, they got it from historical records.
@@joshuatraffanstedt2695 The burnt cakes?? The story of that wasn't written down till 200 years after Alfred's death. Maybe it happened maybe it didn't
Male Eivor is an actor in the series lol
@@pewdiepai2383 yea i just found out he played cnut
Most impactful Ancient Ones:
- Julius Caesar: Father of Understanding
- Aelfred the Great: Recentered the focus of ancient ones to become the religious order of Templars
Julius Caesar isn't the father of understanding. Jupiter/Suttungr was
But youre right Julius Caesar was one of the most inpactful Ancient Ones
@xMusti070 Wait so are you saying the roles are passed on? Like Jupiter, Juno, and Minerva inherited those roles or something? Or are they just different names for those three.
Well alfred wasn't corrupt but if he was it wasn't by much though in the first ac games with the Templar they were fairly corrupt but in a way it may have slowly corrupted but alfred wanted a strong and honest religious order not one that is for blood shed and money and power
@@mercer3401 Alfred's idealism is shared both by Laureano Torres and Haytham Kenway.
I like the small touch at 6:07 that he correctly identifies were Eivor is actually from. Shows that he's a very learned man, despite him now in exile. An extraordinary figure, hidden by rags that distort just how important he is. And yet, how humble he wants to be.
A true, poor soldier for Christ. Poor and weak physically, and yet with Christ as his divine mission, invincible.
Yeshoa/ Christ is a demigod/ born hybrid with Isu in AC lore,, just like Kassandra & Alexios in AC Odyssey
So is this how the Templar Order is started? Alfred creates them in the power vacuum left behind by the order? That’s pretty fucking cool actually, wraps the ancient trilogy up nicely and sets up the next game to include the proper Templars vs Assassins.
The modern Templar Order, yes. The term "Templars" did not emerge until Crusader era. Alfred reformed it into a more concrete quasi religious order.
In about 246 years more, give or take, is when the name “Templar” comes about.
@Yoda pretty sure they will be, i like the system here in Valhalla more than Origin’s and Odyssey’s
@xMusti070 "Poor Fellow Soldier of Christ" was used, but historically 'Templar' was not used until the 13th century.
@@blacktigerpaw1 not necessarily, the term templar was used since the creation of alfreds order. more information on layla's laptop about that, the name only became public knowledge at the time of the crusades though.
I love how similar this portrayal of Alfred is to the one in Last Kingdom. When you first meet him I thought they looked and sounded similar, and after getting this ending I'm happy they even made their personalities and ideals similar!
Agreed!
From Vikings too! Maybe not so much as the last kingdom’s portrayal, but the place they meet looks just like the one where Alfred lived when the Ragnarssons took Wessex from Ecbert and he had to live there with his father and brother, also, when he just gave the medallion to Eivor, it really reminded me of Alfred from Vikings, smarter than the average king
Yeah I noticed that too. Both are portrayed similarly. Alfred in the game is still crafty and calm like Alfred in tlk. Eivor and Alfred’s relationship kind of reminds me of Uhtred and Alfred’s relationship in tlk. Uhtred and Alfred mistrust each other and hate each other but work together to protect what they love. Same with Eivor and Alfred
despite what we’ve been through I like this king
True, I also think that's why the protagonist leaves him alone as well
@@BAIGAMING it is true and I find it much better than to have given us a choice it is a very nice ending and it would be so nice to see him again afterwards
@@florentllp2827 a choice to kill him because he would end up winning the war and getting back on the throne and that would mess up too much of their own Lore to do
@@reeceallen583 it is true I had not thought of the true story of Alfred ahah, but in any case I prefer him very much alive because deep down he did not want all this story of order that fell on him in his will, he had a good heart
@@florentllp2827 I also really like Alfred the Great alive
This really redeemed Alfred. Alfred now might be my favorite AC villian.
Agreed!
He’s more anti hero as you’re a viking but he’s not by any means one dimensionally evil. Just wants to unite his homeland and protect it, the two of them have strongly conflicting goals and therefore must be enemies.
@@gremlinmann340 yeah true. Alfred just wanted to protect his people from foreign invasion.
Historically he ultimately succeeded.
He's not a villian
i mean i enjoyed him as a character but just by looking at the order screen in the menu you can tell the twist from a the beginning.
Yeah I saw that too, I also spoiled myself on Xenosaga before Xenosaga 3 came out because the silhouette had distinctive bangs.
@@BAIGAMING
its annoying because i really like the game but why did they think that was a good idea?
For me, the twist wasn't him being a member, might have helped make the twist better, but the clues were to strong to point to anyone else either way. The better twist was his devotion to destroying the order thanks to his firm belief in Christianity, which is actually his most notable historic trait
It also ruins the other members when you have to “try to find out who it is”, like in Jorvik.
@@BAIGAMING i thought that the keel was dag at first because of the silhouette
Aelfred is a genius. It’s funny I for some reason thought it wouldn’t be him because it was ironically hiding in plain sight but the twist of him becoming a leader who uses the assassins to destroy the order from ground up leading to him remaking it in the Templar name is so genius and really shows how the Templar’s were not as extreme as the Order beginnings. While some leaders were not as extreme as others, Aelfred shows that he is a man whose morals are firm even in his somewhat questionable actions throughout the game. I hated this guy for his army killing Soma but I oddly felt okay sparing him. He humbled himself. Great twist
Yep, really well-done character, they need more characters and interpretations like this in the next AC game.
@@BAIGAMING honestly the combination of Basim and Aelfred as shadowy antagonists that both make it out alive worked very well! In comparison for example to Deimos (Who did fill his role well but is meant to be turned to the light), Kleon (who was so obviously a Cultist when literally the only dude at Pericles party who loves him is a GOD DAMN CULTIST HIMSELF) and Aspasia (Who fills the complicated leader sub par as shes simply underdeveloped. I wish she had more connection with Kassandras search for her mother after Kassandra locates her. In the end it’s somewhat predictable given the amount of Female Cast members in the game but more of a shrug ending). On the flip side the Villains in Odyssey’s DLC (Huntsmen, Tempest and Amorges) along with mythic ones like Hades, Persephone and I forget the Atlantis ones name lol were welcome additions to more colourful rogues.
With the Order of the Ancients destroyed, the Templar Order is formed. Now, who decided to rename “the Hidden Ones” Assassins?
I think hytham has a part in that.
Hasan e sabah
well actually it goes from hidden ones to "hashashins" then assassins.
if the dlcs are similar to the previous two games. meaning one assassins creed dlc and one dlc related to the culture mythology surrounding the game, then hopefully one of them will explain that.
The hidden ones became the Assassins around the time before AC1 or 10th to 12th century. During this time the Hidden Ones basically came together in large community in Masyaf and remade their Brotherhood as said by Ezio himself in AC Revelations. As to exactly why they chose Assassins well as someone already said it come from the Arabic word "hashashins" or Assassins which is based off a real group of historical Assassins that the whole first game/franchise is based off of. Btw @Mr. Sarcasm they were never called hashashins in AC Universe hashashins as I said before is the real historical group it doesn't have a dictionary meaning but more of symbolic interpretation that means one who Assinates.
Alfred was a great antagonist. He opposed Eivor at nearly every turn, but I never begrudged him that. A man does what he must to protect his home, and his people. Plus, orchestrating the destruction of the Order of the Ancients so that something better (at least in his view) could take its place earned him a few points.
Agreed, I think most other AC characters had such a bad portrayal but Aelfred was one of the best AC characters I've seen in years of playing
@@BAIGAMING the next protagonist should be Hugh de Payen the man who made the Templars more widespread
Tbh I kept going back and forth on whether they would actually put Alfred at the head of the order. Considering his historical reputation it wouldn't at all make sense for him to be the leader of some cult-ish ancient god-obsessed group of tyrants.
But making him inherit the leadership role and then have him take the order down from the inside is a smart angle. Also the fact that they alluded to him going on to create the Templar order in its stead is a really cool way of connecting everything.
I have a bit of a love hate relationship with AC Valhalla, but this ending here was satisfying I'll admit.
I liked him since his first appearance, such an intriguing and well-written character. I knew he would be The Father and expected we’d have to assassinate him but this ending was so much better. Ubisoft did a good job after the mess that was Odyssey.
Agreed, it's really a step in the right direction
It is really a great written game all the Characters are wonderful but the bugs and glitches in this game ruins it sometimes
Initially I expected him to be the Father but as he dies in 899 in real life and as the end of the game takes place in 878, I thought of somebody else like Goodwin because it would have been a too big anachronism by Ubisoft. But in the end it's actually him and he doesn't get killed, i've been fooled but i don't dislile it lol
outside of the war king aelfred seems like a nice guy and that can’t be denied
Yeah I agree, very interesting character, though I wish they'd continued his plotline a bit more
@@BAIGAMING He is not a villain, he s just a parody of real aelfred like ceasar borgia
@@BAIGAMING Alfred is more relaxed in exile, living as a commoner: Power is truly a burden and a blessing and Alfred is the best example.
ORIGIN OF TEMPLARS ..THAT MUSIC THAT VIBES ...BRINGS MY CHILDHOOD MEMORIES..WHEN (A.C ) WAS DAMN COOL .. BEFORE ARTHUR MORGAN ..WE HAD ..Ezio Auditore DA FIRENZE
The most expected "bad guy"
He is spoiled in trailers and you know who is the Father just by looking at his black shadow fogure in Order menu.
In Odyssey all had robes and masks so you couldn't go to town and say: Oy its this guy because he has same features like the shadow figure.
Not to mention Templars were created much later in history.
Yeah you make valid points, was pretty obvious by the time I did that postgame mission
Yep its pretty bad, you can't even argue that they represent a precursor to the templars, christianity was brought to England around the 3rd century, so it had been here nigh on 600 years at this point, so its highly likely the catholic church had agents in England to help enforce the aims of the church, however the fact they play on the poor fellow soldiers of christ bit which of course is a templar moto, and use middle english words that wouldn't have been in use until around 1066 or so, even thr first word, 'poor' at this time poor would likely have been said as the latin, pauper or old english earm or arm old norse vant, or even old high german root hearn, hene. Anyway this is the tip of the ice berg. As an incredibly proud English man who read history at university the historical, linguistic and geographical accuracy of the game is appalling. But then it is just that, A game.
@@mrcommonsense9145 speaking of religion.
I am surprised there is no Pagan gods vs Christianity.
Because Vikings were quite easily converted. And you dont have that in this game. In Odyssey you can debate Sokrates about life and phylosophy etc. Here you are just
"OUR GODS ARE BETTER THAN YOR ONE GOD"
Hell even Basim does not bring up Islam. How awesome would it be to talk about all the differences or even turning away from Norse gods and seeing the truth in Christianity.
@@balrok9959 Christianity sucks,.
@@Kvs-vf9nt I dont care if it sucks or not. Even if there was dome Death Cult I can care less about it. But Converting Vikings is something that was done. And it was done very easily. While here there is not even a word abut viking converting to christianity.
I really, really enjoyed this ending. I like it when games subvert expectations. The revelation that the head of the Order was actually a (somewhat) good guy who willingly gave up his title left me very introspective.
Yep I agree wholeheartedly, I didn't like a lot of these modern AC plots and characters, but the portrayal of Aelfred in this plot was astounding, this scene was worth playing the game for. It was so good I even watched The Last Kingdom and Vikings.
@@BAIGAMING I don’t think we’ll get an Assassin’s Creed game as good as 1&2 ever again, so keeping that expectation seems hopeless. Maybe the next game will be something even better. We will most likely be playing as modern day Basim so hey, we’ll see.
I'm glad we didnt have to kill alfred I absolutly love that man.
Yeah I agree, even though he was an antagonist he was likeable and you can see his point of view
Same.
Wait so you can't kill alfred on this game?
you can't kill him he will raise armies after armies to push Viking away after this baking cake incident he will gain power of England some part it and rule and change the rules and make England more stronger against future Viking invasions
@@subhamsen5200 did king henry the eighth succeed these anglo saxons
If only Aelfred knew what his reformed Order would eventually become in the future.
Yep!
wait what i dont understand
@@vivveds5086 templars
@@vivveds5086 Aelfred reformed the Order of the Ancients into what would later be known today as the Poor-Fellow Soldiers of Christ and of Solomon's Temple, aka, the Templar Order, the long time arch-enemies of the Assassin Brotherhood.
such a beautiful and peaceful end to a long bloody and corrupt road of pain, suffering, and death all put to rest for the time being until another idea is risen into a new group
Yep, you described it perfectly I agree wholeheartedly
The writing and performance were excellent here.
I completely agree!
Pretty cool plot twist, tbh. I was pleasantly surprised with Valhalla's ending(s), after everything from Unity to Odyssey (ESPECIALLY Odyssey) rushed or halfassed the ending.
Darby is a damn magician, to be capable of making Ubisoft plots work
Yep, this was an antagonist who was extremely well done, I hope to see more characters like this in future AC games.
@@respectableindividual4593 It's ok. Not everyone can have good taste :)
@@respectableindividual4593 Lmao, how many layers of irony are you on right now?
@@respectableindividual4593 And yet the mystery remains:Who asked in the first place?
@@respectableindividual4593 You must be as bored as I am
Alfred watching the cakes actually happened irl
So interesting
If you enjoyed the dialogue, Saxons and Danes, battles and history mixed with fantasy I would highly recommend watching the last Kingdom series it's brilliant
I've gotten a lot of people saying that, I'm starting it right now
Give it a chance and it's honestly really good, I like it because it's kinda gritty and not overly polished!
Merry Christmas
@Faz Not only that. Male Eivors voice actor plays in that show!
7:53 the music here is so outstanding
Makes one wonder if ther will be a third order.
As long as templar and assasins are cought up in their meaningless fight they wont be able to save the world.
Like Kassandra/Alexios said "when you finished it, destroy them! Destroy them all!"
There kind of is a third order in the present. So basically here Alfred wants to get rid of the Order of the Ancients and replace them with Templars. But in the modern-day you have a group called the Instruments of the First Will who act a lot more like the Order of the Ancients and are separate from Templars.
Excellent points
Ngl asides from eivor basim and hytham King Aelfred is one of my favorite characters in assassin's creed valhalla this game will always have special place in my heart
Despite being an enemy, and finding out he is the leader of the ancients, I guess I felt... admiration? Dude had me on my toes from beginning to end, and seeing him now, I found him nothing evil, just a man who wanted peace.
*And that is respectful enough*
The music that plays after this is magnificent. I don't know why it plays, I w9nder if signifies the "start of the ends beginning" Which the end is the collapse of the order. And the formation of the Templar order. Which Eivor technically had a hand in making. Because he helped Alfred destroy them from within.
Do u knw wat song is that, please tell me, am searchin it a lot, made me crey
@@pakalupapito7551 its name is Twilight of the Gods
Alfred is one of the greatest antagonists in AC history. Not as a villain just someone who opposes you but fight towards the same goal in the end
Excellent point, I agree
Same as Haytham Kenway from Assassins Creed III, a great antagonist and a grandmaster like Alfred. Both of them are similar they are complex characters seeking the same goal as the assassins but with diferent ideas and that is why they are so good antagonists
well he's the reason there is AC at all. he created the templars and started the rivalry
Man after everything Eivor went through he straight up still refused to join the Hidden Ones all in the name of Greed and Lust for power, how dare he reject Hytham’s offer to join its VERY disappointing to me! Like why would he say no after everything he’s been doing like fighting the Order of the Ancients, learning the Leap of Faith, mastered the use of the Hidden Blade, pillaging all the Monasteries, finding all the Roman Artifacts, collected all the Codex pages to learn and discover the fate of Bayek and Aya’s Hidden Ones, owns 3 sets of Assassin Brotherhood robes, recovered Mjolnir the hammer of Thor, Gungir the spear of Odin, and even the legendary sword Excalibur and it was still not enough for Eivor to say yes?!
Yeah I agree, I don't get the mentality of his decision, you'd think by the end he'd join
@@BAIGAMING Yeah but then again I would love to theorize that the Siege of Paris DLC which is coming out next year could possibly make Eivor a real assassin finally but it may just be me that’s all.
@@BAIGAMING Because they have to lead their clan now. Eivor has always been about her clan and family first
what people actually miss in this story is that Eivor and Alfred helped each other to take down the order, despite the king portrayed as villain and the vikings in real history, really a well written story 👏
Not really
I'm so glad we don't have to kill him. When I saw his picture before getting all the clues, I could tell who it was... And I was like NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! Because I didn't want to kill him. I like Aelfred, ever since I watched The Last Kingdom. And I like him in this game too. I wouldn't want to kill someone who isn't evil.
Yeah I agree though I wish they continued his plotline a bit more
@@BAIGAMING Yeah and more quests where you gotta do things for him. Even if you had to do it the way he didn't want you to do it... lmao He told me to not make Winchester a battle ground. Well, oops, kind of too hard to do that LOL
@@shalissatheog6354 I have to get the platform that show plays on. I only have Netflix.
Edit: Looks like I can buy it on youtube, I'll have to do that sometime.
I think the developers intentionally made that you're unable to fast travel after this just to found ubba's body near the village epecially along with the sad music, I'm glad I didn't missed it on my first playtrough
You're right, if I had known this beforehand I wouldn't have edited out me walking back
@@BAIGAMING I learn this from playing witcher 3 cause I missed a lot of hidden quest by using fast travels ☺️ also I don't think the ending was a bit rushed we all know that King aelfred is clever because he's planning this long time ago, and we all know he will make he's comeback that's why he early surrender and didn't go for a massive war, I hope we get to see more of Aelfred for the upcoming DLC
This whole sequence made my heart soar. I feel like I'd known he was the grand maegester for a while and I was so ready to kill him, but then the dialogue here between Eivor and Aelfred, the peace and respect between them and also just Aelfred's demeanor, his wonder at the world around him and his vulnerability, all completely turned me around lol. Suddenly he's a very likeable and endearing character. He looks sickly and gaunt throughout the whole game, and here too, but with his face turned towards the sun and when he smiles, you can see the life and the youth in him. It's really hard not to want the best for him.
I hope they do dlc that shows Alfred taking back Wessex and eivor’s reaction.
I'd like some postgame DLC
Aelfred is actually one of the more complex characters in this game, and knowing that historically he actually routs the Vikings makes this ending even more clever. Though he claims to have found peace, his mind is always thinking about the next step. A fitting trait for the first Grand Master of the Templar Order.
Also, what about his voice actor? Guy did an amazing job playing a loathsome character.
He’s like the aelfred from the last kingdom
I think the developers got inspiration from it and were big fans, I know that Aelfred and his actions comes from history but his depiction in this is very similar to that in the show.
Hearing both, especially in this scene, I definitely think male Eivor sounds much more authentic. Idk he just sounds right. Much better voice acting, just like Kassandra in Odyssey.
The entire time i wanted to kill him... for the deaths of so many friends... Ubba, Soma, Hjorr, Hunwald... but this cutscene put me at a certain level of peace that i believe he is better off this way instead.
I agree
To be fair, it wasn’t his fault they died at all. Alfred was simply defending his land against people who wanted to burn it down and turn his whole country pagan. It’s like if we should blame Connor for simply defending his native lands in my opinion.
Alfred was basically following the footsteps of Aspasia: Like Aspasia was the leader of the Cult, the Ghost of Kosmos, Alfred was the Father, the Grand Maegester of the Order of the Ancients, but didn't like the course the Order was taking, just like Aspasia disliked how the Cult cared more about personal power, so both manipulate the protagonist into destroying the Cult and the Order respectively.
Thanks, that's a really great explanation
@@BAIGAMING Ironically, Basim's plan made things worse, since Alfred was attempting to destroy the Order anyways, albeit in a less violent way.
@@jorgebersabe293 the templars don't exist anymore do they?
@@mohammedusmanmufti5311 the templars didn’t exist yet lol 😂
I really hope they are fixing the quest with the bug in the next patch, its so annoying
They have not fixed it, i have it to
Which bug? I cant start this quest'..you mean this?
A lot of people still need the final clue to trigger this last part, while they finished everything else. Unfortunately, it's a known bug ...
It has to do with handing over all of the medaillons to Hytham, before you 'defeat' Aelfred. This is possible because of a bug in where one medaillon get's duplicated. I'm in the same boat: we'll have to wait for Ubisoft to release a fix ... :-(
That's awful, I thought it was just because this final mission had a lot of requirements, sucks there's a glitch.
So since that happened to me I just have to wait until they fix it
Despite my blood lust to kill King Alfred this ending really impressed me somehow... I liked it, some people can be saved...
Yep, though I wish they showed more of what happens to Aelfred afterwards
Look up the battle of edington
nah...
How is no one thinking Odin could be the Father of Understanding? It would make so much sense.. The seal of the templars(the tree) could literally be the life tree Yggdrasil, Odin is LITERALLY the god of wisdom (the god of understanding, the father of understanding) we know that the actual root of the templars is in the Order of the Ancients, which was not based in christianity as the templars are after the arrival of King Aelfred of England as their grandmaster. We know Odin was an ISU he aspired for power and wisdom, values which align very well with the templars and he literally sacrificed his eye for wisdom, understanding. It makes so much sense, the clues are all there Odin is very likely the Father of Understanding.
Edit: Also the ABSTERGO LOGO IS LITERALLY VALKNUT.
You make a lot of good points, never knew that about the Abstergo logo!
Holy Sh*t
You blew my mind 🤯🤯🤯
“ That is brilliant “
~ The reader
@@BAIGAMING thanks lol it seems really obvious knowing a lot of norse mythology, and also it resembles valknut it’s not an exact copy but still
I need someone by the Gods to tell me the song voice at 7:53 when Eivor stares at the Key!
Me too
The song is called 'kingdom of wessex'
King Alfred: *Destroy the Order from existence*
Pharaoh Smenkhkare: " HE DID WHAT?!"
I can't wait for the new Assassin's Creed game ^^
Hope there will be a dlc to put aelfred on the throne again because the game claims that alfred lost but he didnt
Good point, I'd like that too
Yeah that would be really cool because he did end up winning
This happened during his exile, he temporarily lose, but regained his strength and army and laid seige to a norse stronghold, forcing Guthram to convert. This takes place around 878. Aelfred retook the throne around 886.
“You’ve caused me suffering and made me lose friends…..have a good day.” Eivor for some fucking reason
I have always had the feeling that the isu favoured humans like this. A leader who wants what’s best for his people. Not overly looking to conquer but to unite people. He was a king of learning and development. Makes you wonder if the templars abs assassins didn’t fight after this if the solution to the sun going nova would have been solved. Like Minerva said. The assassins and Templar’s spent so long fighting but was too late. Maybe the rare leaders in the middle who wanted peace were the real solution.
Yep! I would've liked to see more of King Herald as well because he united Norway
@@BAIGAMING I know they seem that have this bad Habit of flushing out bland or generic characters and the interesting ones they hardly touch but when they appear they are gold. He reminds me of maceveli from assassins creed. Not overly a hero but will do what’s best for peace and stability.
Sometimes that happened. In AC unity, the Templars and Assassins aren't fighting openly. They have a truce, and the game focuses on the intestine fights of the orders. Also, the French Revolution isn't portrayed as the product of one of the orders actions, but it's instead brought forth by the people. Both orders face it as best as they can
AC unity explored new territory and plot elements. Arno ends the game wanting not to see himself consumed by the overarching intergenerational conflict of the orders, kinda like Alfred, who didn't like being tangled in the matters of a super old order
@@pablomonsalve3911 yeah that’s what I meant in away. In unity it was like that one rare moment of not so much working together but elements outside their control. I mean with Alfred he was in the order of the anients and wanted it gone both the order and hidden ones didn’t see that coming. Like with unity outside their control. I also wonder how much influence kassandra had baring in mind she was alive. One thing I found with her comments. If too much of one side the world burns. Too much Caos with the assassins then bad and too much order with the templars then bad as well. Maybe these uprisings were neutral events to balance it out.
I get what they were going for with this friendly enemy dynamic, and it's well done in this particular scene. Trouble is, it comes out of no-where. This is the first time in the game we see Aelfred depicted as anything else than a religious fanatic (except for that one background line in Wincestre where we hear him advocating for education) and before this, there is no indication that him and Eivor admire/respect one another. If there was more build-up, an implication that there is more to Aelfred than hating heathens and that Eivor respects him as a king defending his people, this scene might have been a more satisfying ending.
This way it just comes off as though the writers watched that one famous scene from the Last Kingdom where Alfred and Uhtred finally come to understand each other, decided they wanted a similar dynamic for Eivor but forgot that the Last Kingdom had 3 seasons worth of setup to make it work.
Exactly, you described it really well. When I played through this first I thought it was alright, but when I watched The Last Kingdom and then watched this scene again I understood it much more better. I can't wait for the next mainline Assassin's Creed game. Valhalla definitely has its issues but it's a step in the right direction and it has a lot of great scenes like this.
Hey man, I really appreciate you replying to your comments, thank you 😊
Yeah no worries 😁
I knew it, I fucking knew Aelfred was the leader of the Order of the Ancients. Didn't even need to finish the game to know that. I just had the feeling that someone like him would be the leader. Aspasia was not predictable at all, but man Aelfred surely was.
Yep he definitely was, my friends watched The Last Kingdom and this game is very similar to that but you know they wanted to put Aelfred as the Order leader to make a plot twist.
Let me guess, you checked on the order tab? That’s alright, pretty sure everyone knew it aswell
@@havilarborssa4138 I never even bothered with the Order tab until I finished the main campaign. Same with Odyssey, I was busier with exploring Greece, England, Norway etc than kill the Order
It seems you missed such a great soundtrack bruh, it must sound after you leave Alfred alone
Yeah, I need to load up an old save and play that soundtrack again!
@@BAIGAMING do you know the soundtracks name mate ?
@@metehankumas3210 same here i want to know the name the best soundtrack on this game for sure
Yeah. Been trying to find that soundtrack for a while now. Still haven't found it D:
Despite interneting often for tips when I was really stuck, I'm glad I wasn't spoiled by this major reveal.
The big boss, after all this time... 😲
I loved getting through the cult in Odyssey and I loved smoking out the Order in Valhalla!
I want to know what song is played in the end of this quest
Same here
Me too
Same!!
Kingdom of wessex
einar selvik - disorder of the ancients ( unreleased song)
I was suprised he didn't talk about a hurt that cannot be healed and the glory of the elves of old before the veil while being surprised that my qunari can actually be nice.
True
Song me heard was after yaa leave the area it starts playin Italian
Oh god please use google translator it would better. 🙄
Wouldnt eivor have been itching to kill alfred after that last battle that led to the death of soma?
Wait, wasn't this the exact same twist from Odyssey? When I looked at the order screen I refused to believe it's Aelfred because of that, but I guess it's either that or making the leader some unknown character you've never met before
Yep, many people didn't find this plot twist surprising. They handled Aelfred's character well, but it's not a good plot twist. It's already very obvious from the order screen because as you said he already appeared, but if you watched The Last Kingdom it's exceedingly obvious.
The Knights Templars were also known as The Poor Fellow-Soldiers of Christ it’s a very interesting thing to think about
I wonder if there'll be more king alfred in the future. This point where he had to retreat to the swamps was only really the start of his journey as a king. There's so much more they can do with his character
I agree, would be nice as DLC though I hate paying for DLC and think it should've all been postgame.
DLC's are already decided. One will be set in Ireland and the other will be the siege of Paris... so nothing likely to invilve King Aelfred
@@jeffthomas3707 yea but they may have more dlcs this time around
@@guagewillis No Sir... they have already laid out the DLC roadmap... there are 2 arcs being released over the coming year and a half. Also, they cannot do anything with Aelfred that would contradict history.
@@jeffthomas3707 i mean ivar didnt die at the hand of eivor irl
He's royalty who decided to work in a calm, humbled, and labor-intesive job. RESPECT.
The Poor Fellow Soldier won't apear in my Raventhorpe and i did all the alliances and killed every ancient order member.
Do the postgame regions by going to the map room, complete Hamtunshire and conquer all regions on your map if you haven't yet.
Postgame region? What is?
Ya what is postgame ?
Same here. Pleqse someone find a solution
Mark my words: When you finish this game AND RIGHT AFTER THE SCENE with Alfred and Eivor, travel by horse to Winchester, without fast travelling. The song "Ragnarok - Twilight of the gods" starts playing, and it is lovely and very fitting ending moment, after dealing with all the order. Absolutely loved it.
Guys, I’ve killed all the Order members before finishing the main story - so no Father yet - but the game behaves like I’ve already done the Father mission too (even though he remains covered). Has anyone else experienced this? Right now I’ve returned to a previous save file, and I’ll avoid giving Hytham the medallions until after the Father mission is available.
Yes same exact thing happened to me just now. Very frustrating
I'm not sure, only solution I can think of is trying to do everything else and possibly beating the game and going into postgame? Make backup saves
@@BAIGAMING I promise you I’ve done everything there is to do in this game. It’s a new glitch a lot of people have had it happen to them
I just recently finished the quest, I thought he'd just give me a name and I do a siege or something, then he gave me that medal and I was like "wtf" - then I re read the clues about him about having a very high position and being religious. I should have figured it out long ago. I still am bitter that the vilage he's staying is near the river I saw Ubba's impaled body.
It's such a good epilogue, I'm looking forward to the next Assassin's Creed game. The yearly releases they used to have was too much!
I totally love the series sure we have out own criticisms on it but I wont stop buying the game, what puts me off is the crashes I still get even on Valhalla's 1.7.0. I just got this on Steam along with the DLCs
Honestlt this is the best ending the game has. All ISU staff and so on - I just did not care, but this one is good.
I agree, as a long time Assassin's Creed player they need more characters and lore like this
knew it was the king ever since i saw him i could easily tell by the dark image on the order menu
Yep it was such a poorly done silhouette, I think almost everyone could tell it was him.
I think they should make DLC where Alfred retakes the throne and maybe you can help him
@THEDISASTERSTUDIOS I 100% agree with that
I’m honestly kind of shocked the battle of edington wasn’t in the game. It’s like the defining moment of the Saxon Viking wars. I could see it being a future dlc.
@THEDISASTERSTUDIOS idk if you’re talking about the historical Alfred or the video game Alfred, but historically that wouldn’t really work. Alfred was extremely sick and feeble for most of his life. He wasn’t a great warrior or saboteur, he was just a really great leader.
@@RunningBlade2184 Battle of Edington really should have been in the game
They shouldve stayed historically accurate how the main story was, alfred shouldve pushed the vikings out of england
Loved this game, I remember when I finished it I thought they'd do dlc to wrap up the story of Alfred. Sadly they did not but I enjoyed it very much. Would of been cool to get a big battle with the vikings losing but ultimately coming to an understanding and most of them staying. Something, I kind of thought they maybe planned something but was like "fuck it let's do a game in China and another with witches!"
Definitely, this ending made the game worth it, they had such a good story and characters for the first time in a long time, I played this along with watching a similar show, The Last Kingdom and they were both amazing. I don't understand the Abstergo (the non-simulation) plot in Assssin's Creed anymore though 😅I have high hopes for Assasin's Creed Shadows, I hope that more development time will make the games better. I didn't like Mirage too much though it was alright.
PLEASE anyone have to song after this scene ??? I search everywhere...
SAMEEE
@@patrickokeefe9820 as soon as you posted I checked it out and spent the last day of my work holiday making a cinematic.. Thank you soo much!
@@bradsuhrbier3647 what did he post, he deleted it
einar selvik - disorder of the ancients ( unreleased song)
Well, I guess there's only one thing to say after this, May the Father of Understanding guide us
Definitely one of the better modern Assassin's Creed games! I watched The Last Kingdom and it goes really well with this game.
Do we have to wear something or do something special to trigger it? I did everything and it doesn’t activate. Do I need to be a certain level?
Mine activated once I went to the settlement in Ravensthorpe
You need to kill all the other order members
@@emincash6931 I killed all of them, and all I have left is Snotinghamahire but it won’t give me the final clue
You have to kill the zealots
You need to kill all zealots and order members then beat the main story.
Damn it... I admit my illiteracy but only now I realise that King Alfred was calling himself a "poor soldier of Christ" throughout this game, and I thought nothing of it... it was plain for all to see what that meant, for the official name of the Templar order is (wikipedia) The Poor Fellow-Soldiers of Christ and of the Temple of Solomon
For some reason i have beat the game leveled my settlement up to 6 killed all members of the order and can not get this to start if anyone knows anything let me know
Kill all other order members and zealots, you need to beat the game, you need to check your map and conquer all regions including postgame, you need to upgrade the Seer's hut and do all Asgard missions
@@BAIGAMING I did that and it still won’t let me do that mission. I hope they will patch their game ASAP
Bravo! Bravo!
VERY well done. Brilliant writing, Brilliant acting.
My only wish is that we saw more of him!
And wouldn't Eivor be angry he killed Ubba?
Agreed! I watched The Last Kingdom and it's really exciting what happens next with him, I want to see the developers put more stuff like this in their next game
Could someone please explain what "Or do they know?" means when Eivor talks about Aelfred being a king? (3:50)
...Did he relinquish his crown? After the Hamtunscire battle? Was that really all the allies he had? That's it?
In real life he got a redemption, I can't explain it too well but check out en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_the_Great or watch one of the movies/shows based off of him
@@BAIGAMING Thank you! ^^
@@fogwater Winchester was captured by the Vikings and king Alfred was forced to go into hiding in the marshes so he decided to conceal his identity as to not be found.
@@Manunido huh... well, for all that hype, the battle was pretty lame 😅
Thank you! c:
@@fogwater Alfred The Great spends a couple months in the marshes and almost loses hope but his Christian faith inspires him to call on all men of England to rally against the Vikings in one final battle and he absolutely destroys the Vikings in that battle as the Vikings lose half of all England! Guthrum also converts to Christianity willingly since he believed alfreds god was with him in battle. I recommend searching up ‘The final Battle between Vikings and Saxons” on TH-cam since that’s the decisive battle that Alfred won right after this games ending. If you have Netflix you could also watch the last kingdom season 1 episodes 7 and 8 as it shows alfreds time in the marshlands and the battle where he defeated guthrum’s Vikings.
I like Alfred, he even made a treaty with Guthrum in England and they begin their trades
So this is the last secret ending of the game i guess...
It is, couldn't find any other content within the game after this
@@BAIGAMING He is the last remaining Order of the Ancients member left to find for me... where can I find him now everything else is done?
Ultimately evior taught hytham something to show your achievements in plain veiw
True
I'm not able to get this quest triggered, I have done literally every quest, my log is empty
Hmm, did you kill all zealots too? Did you upgrade the Seer's hut and do all the Asgard missions? Talk to the Seer again and make sure nothing new pops up. Also complete the postgame map regions, go to the map screen and check if you've done them all because new ones pop up after beating the game.
@@BAIGAMING Just a question, or a few maybe. So I've completed all territories ( I think ), the last one I did was the one with Winchester ( Don't have the game opened so can't look for the name ). Not sure if that is the last one and if it is I haven't gotten the achievement of completing all territories. I even got up that I have pacified all of England. Now, my theory is that when I completed the last territory using a god-mode glitch where you go invisible and the enemies can't see you ( I did that due to enemies being 100 power lvls above me and I was too lazy to grind that ). Do you think me using a glitch have caused the game to believe that I never finished that?
Same is happening for me. The last mission that I completed was gunner‘s wedding. I’ve beat every zealot every mystery collected every artifact all wealth and this mission will not trigger
@@barbaraplaisance2515 check your inventory if you have thors cloak then your game is bugged, it is the final reward and some people are receiving it early as they turn in medallions to hytham. For me I got the cloak while I still had order members alive and the medallion quest marked complete, thors cloak is the reward for dealing with father so you shouldn't have it if you haven't done this mission.
@@noneprovided5168 this glitchy game. I really want to write ubisoft a letter and let them know how bad this game was for me.
the worst bit is if you look at the father on the order when you have only 2 clues it spoiled the reveal for me
Yep, they should've done a better job hiding it, it spoiled it for me too
I need help everyone in the Order is dead except The Father and when I go to the settlement the quest “The Letter” doesn’t show up like it does in the Video
Zealots as well
@@em1766 thank you
Great portrayal of Alfred right there.
I'm glad they didn't make him a villain, but a complex man. Second best portrayal of him I'd say, only losing to The Last Kingdom.
I liked this too. I watched Last Kingdom after this too and they're both really amazing. I have hope that they can make good characters in the future. They should focus entirely on the old time period plotline and not the modern Abstergo plot because the modern plots are never memorable anymore. I can't wait for Shadows, no drama here just want a fun game😁
10:41 “Then go in pe-“ best line ever
Very true
While I don't think this portrayal of Ælfred is historically accurate, (aside from his fervent devotion to Christianity) I still like how they reimagined him as a person in Assassin's Creed. A very deep and well-written character.
How do you get this part in the story? Because I've already did everything on the alliance map, or is it because I have to kill the remaining members of the order and then confront the father?
Yep definitely you need to kill all other order members and zealots
@@BAIGAMING do u have to kill the zealots I thought u only kill the order members
I was looking up something else and this video came up... great
According to my game i have handed in all medallions, but i still have 5 targets to kill and 2 medallions in my inventory, anyone knkw why
Not sure, the medallions are glitched, but I was able to get this mission by just killing all other order members, all zealots too, beating the game, beating the postgame map regions and doing Asgard missions.
@@BAIGAMING i have done this but cannot access this cutscene anymore
@@BAIGAMING plus when i handed over the medallions, eivor said one was aelfreds although i hadnt met him to get ot yet
100% one of my favourite AC characters!