Thanks for the testing, yes, push-pull brings a bit of extra performance out of our cooler, but that decreases compatibility drastically (we already have a thick rad). as for a LF3 Max as you suggested, well, I have a pen and paper ;)
I am 100% going to buy a 420 from you now, I was not sure about if it should be yours or the EK, but reading your comment convinced me about you are not too big or "important" to listen to your costumers and not afraid of listening to new ideas. May I please ask you if I can improve your great product by changing out the three fans to something else? If so, what do you recommend, thinking of noise also?
@@zachmullins9444 Yes no doubt on that, you can get some 3500 rpm at 100% all the time, but what I am thinking of, is to still only use their products and try to get even more cooling out of it, with low noise. :-)
@@friedmule5403 I did a 9800x3d build with this cooler Friday night, in an Antec Flux Pro and it's completely silent. You literally can't tell if the pc is on or off by sound. CPU temps max out at 52.5c in gaming.
@@STSYT I think on 240,360 aios Phanteks T30 should be the choice. For the 280 or 420 AIO it is harder to choose, maybe toughfan 14 pro or SILENT WINGS PRO 4 but then P14 Max is going to release and then T30 in 140 mm size from phanteks and noctuas new 140mm in the future.
@@STSYT I put noctua industrial ppc2000 on nucleus in push pull yesterday and did not help at all, but could be mismatch with nucleus fans. Sticking to just 3 nucleus fans . Oh and its the direct die version so managed over 400w on 14900k no throttling but risky business.
Got the previous 420 with 140 Noctuas set to push pull on the top of a Corsair 7000d. Have been very happy with it silent passively cooling 90% of the time. If one is going to bother fitting in a push/pull setup in their case, don't use stock fans.
I have a Lian Li 011 Dynamic EVO RGB case with the Arctic LF iii 420 with a push from bequiet 140 pro wing fans and pull for now from artic 140 pwm. It fits... I just removed the brace connected fans to the radiator and to the top of case. It looks like I dont even have pull fans in the case. except for how close the bottom fans are to the rear 120 mm
@@STSYTI also remember. :) Congrats! And I can can totally relate to the ride... you've pushed ahead heavily in 2023. This takes a lot of time and effort considering the quality you put out. Goodbye weekends. GG.
@@STSYT Found your channel because of the Azza Cube review. Very few people were covering it on YT. Sticking around because from a purely marketing perspective, you have a likable personality that is fun to listen to, while also providing the data. Kind of similar to what Tech Notice does. Its a good combo.
I think what this video shows is that push/pull is always going to be better, and even with mid-performing fans like P12, you are able to get everything out of it at lowest volume of any aio. With faster/louder fans it might get better stock performance, but it wouldn't provide better performance in push/pull. Moral of the story, buy some cheap and quiet P14s for pull.
I currently have the LFiii 420 in my system in push pull... It made my 7950X draw so much power trying to reach yhe 95 degree stock targe ttemp that it made the whole thing unstable. I did manage to get some benchmarks of the LFii 420 and it prrforms better with a slightbundervolt and max temp set to 75 C... I managed a 38K score in cinebench all core. Stock settings had it at 37K. My fans worj a bit harder though, at most they soun up to 1400 RPM but thats even louder than the case fans which are set to 1600 and I can't control them. Its complete overkill and I love it.
So, what fans would allow the Liquid Freezer III both 420 and 360 to reach it's potential? Does it have to be a push/pull config, or are they superior fans that would allow it to reach it's potential? It's rather amazing the EK Nucleus at 360mm keeps up with the LF 420.
I’m in the process of finding the answer to that. The max performance can certainly be reached by a triple fan setup, I’m just not sure if I can recreate the noise to performance curve without push-pull
Lower the noise by adding a spacer with thinner fans or longer screws.. or quieter fans only pushing 250w doesn't really do anything against a well installed LF3, try pushing 375w, it might get warmer xD
Thanks for the review. I had just ordered a LF3 argb and added 3 P14's so I can push pull right out of the box. I've run high speed radiator fans in the past, Scythe, and they were super loud so I'm looking forward to this combo to tame my 13900k as my current evga clc 360 with antec prizm x fans will thermal throttle under high load.
@@ItzzParty Do it and you won't regret it. The fans get a bit loud once the temps start coming up but I'll take that over a hot cpu. Sadly Cinebench still causes thermal throttling but its way cooler than before for everything else.
Great video as always, but if you had to pick between three AIOS currently what direction would you go for the 13900K? The EK 360? Lian Li GA II Performance or the LF III 420mm with the push and pull setup? Or does anyone have any experience between these AIOs currently?
@STSYT You've convinced me, I'm running this exact set up with LF III ARGB + 3x P14 Max fans. Can you tell me what is the RPM above which increasing RPM speed doesn't do anything for this radiator in push pull? That would also be a helpful data in your future videos for people who replicate your setups.
Try the A-rgb version. It has the rims you're talking about, and it definitely improves the noise/rpm ratio especially on the 140mm version of the P series.
I have no clue what comment you’re referring to, nor have I removed any comment. Checked the filter, nothing was blocked. Your comment or somebody else?
That is very interesting and on the bright side, an LFIII + a 3-pack of P12s(for the 360mm) or P14s will probably still set you lower than some competitor AIOs (at least with the current anniversary discount), which is just dumb at this point. I actually do hope Arctic tries to take this into account further down the line, and they can even go the "lazy way" about it and just offer a standard LFIII 360/420 + a slightly discounted fan 3-pack as a combo, the idea being to not need to make new boxes, shipping procedures etc.
I today am testing the Lian Li Trinity Performance 360 using the included P28 fans and some AL120 V2 fans in push pull. You so badly have me wanting to scrap this idea and just go with the LFIII 420 and use the AL140 V2 fans on it that I have.
Yea, I am looking at 6 BeQuiet Silent Wings Pro 4 (140) max speed 2400 . I have 3 BeQuiet Silent Wings Pro 4 (140) not in use, perhaps purchase three more... I really should not watch his videos - it causes unnecessary purchases on my end or at least thats what I tell myself.
@@HanmaHeiro I tested the thought of push/pull on my case Lian Li 011 Dynamic EVO RGB and I would have to remove the top cover and attach the fans to the bracket. Perhaps I will create my second TH-cam video... now where is that mic and camera....
@@AM-hm5eq lol I couldn't do my ideal setup of top mounting. So I went with a front mount. 11 degree improvement over the Enermax Liqmax 360! But having the AIO at the front messes with the way I had my computer designed. So I went ahead and bought the LFIII 420 to replace the galahad performance. Haven't been able to install it just yet
Great video as always..well done One critique I have, if I might. Please simplify your graphs and bar charts. Most of these videos are watched on a mobile phone, and it’s impossible to see any details when you are comparing all those AIOs. Maybe just stick to the few that are relevant, a couple better and a couple worse. Every time I see a chart, I need to pause and zoom in.
Thanks! Happy you enjoyed it! About the graph, I know, not the first time I heard this. I’m aware of how hard they are to read, but I’m kinda restricted by the software I’m currently using. I’m actively working on a solution, but because I want it to do very specific things, I’m forced to create it myself. Will take some months to have it working to the point where it’s presentable, but don’t worry, I know about the issue, and it won’t be forgotten
You should add another test to all your AIO products' testing: fan-standardized tests using either 3 or 6 Phanteks T30 fans (at least for the 120 mm fan version AIOs). Doing fan-standardized tests, I discovered that my original model-style Swiftech H320 from 2012 or 2013 is superior to my Arctic Liquid Freezer 2 360 even though the ALF2 has, both, a thicker AND denser radiator. I did the tests with 3 different sets of fans: 6x Swiftech Helix 120 (push/pull), 6x Arctic P12 (push/pull), 3x Phanteks T30. The Swiftech was 2-4 degrees cooler than the Swiftech with all 3 fan models and at all RPMs (600, 900, 1200, 1500, 1800, 2100, 2400, 2700, 3000). I re-mounted, re-pasted, and tested everything 3 times each.
The good thing is that now you can benchmark fans by strapping them on the LFIII 420/360. I replaced the fans on my LFII 280 with toughfan 14 pro. maybe try doing the same,probably not as good as push pull but its the best fan for thicc rads,least till' Phanteks makes a 140mm t-30 .
@@100500daniel oh man 😂 wait until I release these Endorfy Reviews. Never trust whatever manufacturers write. Whoever does copy doesn’t have to know anything about the thing he’s writing about
I came across this video after I had firmly decided to create push-pull in my future system, and this once again convinced me of the correctness of my decision. But I want to ask you a question: my render station: Ryzen 7950x in a lancool 3 + Liquid freezer 3 420 rgb case. I plan to install it vertically with the tubes up. I also purchased the p14 max arctic fans pack. Where does it make sense to install them? Option 1: add the second row to the freezer. Option 2: install under the top cover of the housing to push hot air through a nylon filter. In this case, the 3 lian Li fans that came with the case will become the second row on the aio. Or swap the sets? In the second case, will I be able to control the high power of the p14 max to take advantage of their power?
Is this push pull 420 configuration the best CPU cooler or the best AIO cooler? I got a local deal in Brazil and am looking to get ready for a very soon 9590x3d (as soon as it launches)
SCREWS = UNC 6-32 at 32mm length for both sides! Roughly 1.25 to 1.26". Thanks for the review. It made me want to try push pull as well, and being a Noctua snob I was surprised how inexpensive a 5pack of those P14 was on eBay. So naturally I had to get one. Since I still had my Alphacool screws from the olden days, I figured I was good to go. Ah crap, no. That's definitely not the right type. So looking at those, I saw the shorter ones being at 30mm, the longer at 35mm, I figured I needed just about those 35mm, if not even more with the thicker P14 fans, to mount the rad and fans to the top of my case. Oh boy, unit wars. How many fractions of an inch ... what? Let's poke the Arctic support. Took a week to get a response but that it was a good one. He apologized for a high ticket volume, referenced my name and a mentioned eBay order of those fans, and immediately sent out an entire set of screws and extras. It still made me wonder about the length. The other side had to be longer, right? Nope. Second answer said it fit and it does. Thanks, Arctic Simon! What kind of case do you guys use to make the LF3 push pull fit other than putting it in the front? I figured my Fractal Meshify 2 XL had plenty of space, until I actually added those 27 + 38 + 27mm and idiot me realized that was more than the allotted 80mm of space for the top section of the case. 🙄 Arctic was unable to supply me with the spare part. Removing the mesh from the top cover was a waste of time. It still doesn't fit with the offset mounted fans. Pump noise is surprisingly agreeable, unless it runs full speed. Reddit had me fear the worst before. Pump and VRM at 50% don't stand out from the rest of the system. I can't recommend FanControl enough. Mainboard software has always been icky. There is however a bubble going brrr when I ram up the pump RPM. All radiator fans are set to 45% (~850RPM) and I honestly can't even tell yet if it makes a difference at all.
@@STSYT Understandable. Main reason I am curious about a push pull with the other leading AIOs on that list is that the radiators are normal sized, making it a bit more "case compatible". That Arctic is a chunky boi!
Once Noctua finally releases their square NF-A14x25 fan, I'd love to see the Arctic Liquid Freezer III with 6 x Noctua NF-A14x25 140mm square fans and compared to the EK Nucleus AIO CR360 with 6 x Noctua NF-A12x25 120mm square fans.
Hey all! I bought LF III 360 RGB & i have a push/pull setup with using Phanteks T30's and its awesome, fans dont have to run very high, like 1k rpm while 4k gaming. I am using an AMD 7950X, with all core locked to 5.2 Ghz and my package temp while gaming and doing other side things, is like 38C to 40c most of the time, sometimes hit 42c, hope this helps.
Please test Arctic Liquid Freezer III 360 with 3x P12 Max, that is going to be cool to test and see how it works, my first question is how loud will it be.
Hardware Canucks did replace the stock fans with P12 Max and the results were the following (254W at 38dB): 86.2°C stock vs 83.6°C Max. The only AIO that didn't benefit from replacing the stock fans was the T30 AIO. Too bad they're freaking expensive. Where I live I can get 9 P12 Max for the price of a 3 T30...
You need to try out the Lian Li Galahad Performance with push pull! :) Either way i always did a push pull config on my Freezer II, now on my kids rig ... amazing performance, but of course, not all cases can handle it.
Once I’m done finding the perfect radiator fans, there is going to be standardized testing for ‘potential’ performance in every review. Probably also going to re-test some older stuff like the GA
@@STSYT tbh due to the Galahad lack of reliability… I’ve been thinking about the 420 freezer. Although technically I think the Galahad is better, with stronger pump, larger ID of the tubing and the higher fin density. But although in the paper everything looks awesome… the pump problems are still there since I’m on my second unit. My lian li has 6 p12 max and it’s been amazing but I have base to compare since I’m using a zen4
@@PedroSombreireiroI bought the of 420. I still have my ga performance but my pump head is making loud bearing sounds, and I am not ready to ram for the 2nd time.
@@Nods.O i have 2 x GA Performance. So i will wait for my first one to die, so i can use the second and let it die too ... after that, i will get the LFIII 420 :D
I stuck some Pkanteks T30's onto my Liquid Freezer 3 360mm AIO and the difference is night and day especially at lower fan speeds, at max it's a monster but so is the noise!
What about the clearence between this and the top of the MB? If I did this MOD wouldn't I need to install it on the top and outside of my case? I'm quessing this setup would be 50% thicker. Showing it mounted in a case would interesing to see.
You can push more of this rad by using all fin space on it. Put 3 25mm shroud, and 3 Noctua IPPC 3000 RPM, seal the thing for have no gap with neopren and check result. Because yes push pull is good for sur but each fan center hub space is not used without shroud.
I'd Like to get 2x 280 rads but create one loop, I'd have one at the top of the case & one vertical at the front of case(which already has some fans but I would like them on both side of the rad, but am wondering if I could get the pipes off & on again, I wouldnt want to ruin the seal that an AIO should already have, also wondering if it's just water inside, and if I ever needed to top them up I'd top up the top one, but wouldnt want to do that in the case, so the whole thing would have to come out, which makes me wonder if I can be bothered with all that & just get an air cooler.
Honestly: I don't see this as an issue whatsoever. With current preorder prices, this performance at only 82€ for the black version or 96€ for the ARGB one, this is a previously unreached level of performance (couldn't even have dreamt of something like this at this price). So any decision on their side to enable this price to performance ratio was correct. Note: got my ARGB one laying next to me, I'll swap it in tomorrow😂
i already purchased 420 aio and looking for to buy phanteks d30-140 fans. but this much thickness is worrying me already. Is deepcool morpheus or lian li o11 dynamic evo xl will have enough clearance for both. I am really open to suggestions.
I have a similar case (011 Dynamic EVO RGB) and I have installed the OEM Artic III 420, the problem would be the rear 120mm fan. The rear 120 mm fan set at the lowest setting would leave you with 1/2 and inch in space. If the fans you would like to use are not greater than 1/2 in depth your good to go. Although I wonder if the 120mm would fight with the 140mm for air space....
What about the arctic bionix fans? What would be the best fans to add or replace with just the arctic line of fans? Is it better to just add or replace all the fans?
I see, thanks. I will be waiting on your fan recommendation then before I spend. If it were up to me, it makes sense to support arctic but we shall see by the test results.
Can you do a test with the diferences between the P12/P14, Argb/non Argb, noise/performance levels? And whats quieter or pushes more air: 2x140mm or 3x120mm fans. Thanks
It does, I had a 2-4C drop in temps but more importantly i could set a very quiet curve and it was still decent cooling. Haven't tested the iii yet but got d30 140mm on the 280 so we'll see
I was about to delid my 14900k and go for the EK. Instead I will go push/pull with the LF3 420 now. Any recommendations on what 6 fans I should get? Can it get even more silent than the arctic p14 without increasing temps?
This is the same as the previous. But what is the problem if you want to replace the fans? It has a 3way spliter PWM cable running along the sheathe of the tube. Just unplug the arctic fans and put the fans you want.
So, technically, if we just look at the aio without considering the fans, this is at the top? That would mean that by using six more powerful fans (ek or noctua for example) and doing push/pull config, one would get the best possible aio, right?
Hard to say without testing every aio with the same fan. I’ll probably include this type of testing in the future, just haven’t settled on the fan choice jet
@@STSYT Thanks for such a quick reply. I've had a liquid freezer II 420 for quite a while and wanted to upgrade my cooling in a month or two. Right now i'm conflicted between the EK nucleus cr360 and this one. Both would be push/pull but I think the former wouldn't benefit nearly as much as the latter from this configuration due to its much thinner radiator.
@@rickcelestino2620 you’re welcome! And absolutely possible. I would love to give a more exact answer, but I doubt we are going to finish testing in that time span :/
the most profitable option would be to buy the A-rgb version of the LF III 360/420 and purchase a set of 3 P12/P14 A-rgbs, since they are more productive than the regular P12/P14 and have a hydrodynamic bearing, unlike the MAX version
I'm not saying that you are wrong, but you assume that the radiator was at its maximum and the bottleneck. However, if it wasn't, then any changes to the pump cap, tubing etc. could lead to increased thermal transfer in the new version. And in this case previously unused potential by both radiator and fans could be used. As I said, you might be right, but it's not as simple as it seems.
You’re right, there are more variables. But this was not really meant to point fingers at the old LFII, or call out a single aspect which may have led to this, but more about proving that the new one has much more potential than it seems We’ll probably never know the full scope of this as nobody will ever try to transplant the old rad onto the new one or vice versa. But definitely interesting if anything else might have been at fault, or a combination of things
In my Be Quiet Silent Base 802 case I currently have three Cooler Master Mobius 140 ARGB fans. Could I use those instead of the extra Arctic fans at the front of the AIO?
Keep in mind that thing with the fans would change if you used different fans, so you cannot say the rad is done due to not much temp change at the top of the fan speeds in absolute sense, you can only say that is true for those fans. fan-only tests sometimes show the last 10-20% doesnt do as much as people might think in terms of flow and pressure.
Arctic is cool but I wish they would add an LCD panel and I am not sure I want an extra vrm fan on my AIO since it would make extra noise. However I never tried an Arctic AIO so I might be missing out.
The vrm fan can definitely be classified as ‘good to have, but not necessary’. About the LCD, maybe, just not everyone wants that kind of stuff. Maybe an optional upgrade option
I'm glad they didn't do that, what you gotta understand is leaving out that stupid LCD screen is a part of what lowers the price, the other companies put a huge mark up just because that little screen. The VRM fan is also function over form and in my opinion it looks better. I'd rather not give arctic a reason to mark up the price, thankfully they're a good company so maybe they wouldn't but I think Arctic made a great decision to not have an LCD screen.
Based on the "Magnetic Connection of the VRM" it would be super easy for Artic to create an LCD attachment to the pump. I think ... I think .... One could use the VRM connection to power the LCD Screen then create via 3d printer a new topper attach said LCD screen and whala... Again this is a I think.
I have an AM4 CPU the Ryzen 7 5800X3D and bought the new Arctic Liquid Freezer III 280 Black does the new AM4 offset brackets come with it and inside the box and doesn’t touch my m.2 nvme like the old revisions except rev 4 on ALF II which showed a half an inch of the IHS to cover the hot CCD or CCD’s or do I have to order one through there website?
Congratz i today boughr LFIII i wanted change from my LFII boughr in november 2023 for better design and i broken my mobo where i had installed Thermatake AM5 frame.... With "old" Liquid freezer i had no problém and first install Liquid freezer III im broken motherbkard on right side Near rams.... GJ arctic maked púmp with so strong metal bended plate which broken motherboards...
Cant be mad for what i paid, 100 euros for the freezer 3 rgb 280, i can just change the fans and it still gonna be cheaper than all of the other coolers with that come with better fans
I think it's funny how this review is titled "Arctic made a HUGE mistake" and yet Arctic links to it on their product page for the liquid freezer iii lol
Man you do a great job reviewing stuff. Have you have a chance to test the Phanteks d30 420mm AIO? I would like to know how it stands against the new arctic
I have a Lian Li 011 Dynamic EVO RGB case with the following set up. 2 BeQuiet Silent Wings Pro 4 (140) fans side intake, 3 BeQuiet Silent Wings Pro 4 (140) bottom Intake, 1 BeQuiet Silent Wings Pro 4 (120) back exhaust. I could possibly have a push/pull, I would have to remove the top grate and affix the fans to the fan bracket mount. Just wondering if 3 BeQuiet Silent Wings Pro 4 (140) is good enough or should i have 6 BeQuiet Silent Wings Pro 4 (140) in push/pull? I only have an Intel 136000K CPU, I may not see a benefit in a push/pull although it would be an experiment. I wonder at say 180 watts is it needed. I wonder what wattage would be needed for a push/pull six 140 set up. ..... Argh this is so long.
aha. do you want to make this type of video from all other AIOs too, if there is no better fan yet available? this will be a hell of a interesting playlist
Have anyone encountered rattling noise from the pump on LF3? There is a thread on reddit so I'm not the only one but I'm kinda curious what youtube reviewers might say or if the encountered it. Also, sadly artcic ignores the ticket for almost two weeks already.
Can anyone give me the rundown what was the mistake? Fins too stacked? Reusing older fans? Not selling the unit with push/pull setup to compensate for old fans? Releasing the unit to early with the assumption that revision is coming with newer fans? I mean that kinda makes sense, considering AF2 had like 7 revisions. I watched the video, just don't get it.
@ Yeah =) I have a 3700X with a 2070 Super on this Rad. About 2h by 22°C room is: max 44°C on GPU and CPU 57°C. CPU has the Uefi setting with Load line High and Boost 10x. So far its chilled.
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Thanks for the testing, yes, push-pull brings a bit of extra performance out of our cooler, but that decreases compatibility drastically (we already have a thick rad). as for a LF3 Max as you suggested, well, I have a pen and paper ;)
Good to know that you guys find these reviews useful, definitely will wait for this product.
I am 100% going to buy a 420 from you now, I was not sure about if it should be yours or the EK, but reading your comment convinced me about you are not too big or "important" to listen to your costumers and not afraid of listening to new ideas.
May I please ask you if I can improve your great product by changing out the three fans to something else? If so, what do you recommend, thinking of noise also?
@@friedmule5403 Can you decrease temps with different fans, yes. Will those fans have a different noise profile, absolutely.
@@zachmullins9444 Yes no doubt on that, you can get some 3500 rpm at 100% all the time, but what I am thinking of, is to still only use their products and try to get even more cooling out of it, with low noise. :-)
@@friedmule5403 I did a 9800x3d build with this cooler Friday night, in an Antec Flux Pro and it's completely silent. You literally can't tell if the pc is on or off by sound. CPU temps max out at 52.5c in gaming.
Seeing that nucleus still on top together with this makes me want a push/pull benchmark with that monster
Definitely, I just need to settle for which fans are going to be used on ‘every’ aio
@@STSYT Maybe also put the Nucleus fans on the LFIII, this would be very exciting to see
@@STSYT I think on 240,360 aios Phanteks T30 should be the choice. For the 280 or 420 AIO it is harder to choose, maybe toughfan 14 pro or SILENT WINGS PRO 4 but then P14 Max is going to release and then T30 in 140 mm size from phanteks and noctuas new 140mm in the future.
@@never_more8117Silverstone Shark Force 140 is the king at 40 dBA followed by Silent Wings Pro 4 140 according to HWBusters
@@STSYT I put noctua industrial ppc2000 on nucleus in push pull yesterday and did not help at all, but could be mismatch with nucleus fans. Sticking to just 3 nucleus fans . Oh and its the direct die version so managed over 400w on 14900k no throttling but risky business.
Arctic P14 Max is out, can you make test with them on LF III 420mm, in push with 3 of them and in push pull with 6 fans?
just tried the max fans on the 280 way too loud don't try it lol do push pull if you have space.
Got the previous 420 with 140 Noctuas set to push pull on the top of a Corsair 7000d. Have been very happy with it silent passively cooling 90% of the time. If one is going to bother fitting in a push/pull setup in their case, don't use stock fans.
Yup. It'll cost you though. 6 of those on sale rn would run 150... That's more than I paid for the LFiii 420. 🤣
3 Phanteks PH-F120T30 on a 120 rad will get similar temp results and cost less with more idle noise@@SergeyPupkoMusic
I have a Lian Li 011 Dynamic EVO RGB case with the Arctic LF iii 420 with a push from bequiet 140 pro wing fans and pull for now from artic 140 pwm. It fits... I just removed the brace connected fans to the radiator and to the top of case. It looks like I dont even have pull fans in the case. except for how close the bottom fans are to the rear 120 mm
Bro I remember when you didn’t even have a thousand subs and you did the first giveaway, congrats on getting so far glad yous stuck to it
It’s been a ride 😅 glad to hear people remember :) and thanks for coming around after all that time
@@STSYTI also remember. :) Congrats! And I can can totally relate to the ride... you've pushed ahead heavily in 2023. This takes a lot of time and effort considering the quality you put out. Goodbye weekends. GG.
@@STSYT Found your channel because of the Azza Cube review. Very few people were covering it on YT. Sticking around because from a purely marketing perspective, you have a likable personality that is fun to listen to, while also providing the data. Kind of similar to what Tech Notice does. Its a good combo.
@@deuswulf6193 Thanks! Quite flattered to hear that! 😅 glad the channel style is finding it/ audience
I have just found this channel today. Insta sub
Beautiful. As expected. Thanks for the update! I wonder how the EK would perform in push pull. Do you still have it?
Glad you enjoyed it! Sure, planning on releasing updated “best potential performance” charts at some point
I hope Arctic finally releases there P14 maxes so, that would atleast solve parts of the issues
I think what this video shows is that push/pull is always going to be better, and even with mid-performing fans like P12, you are able to get everything out of it at lowest volume of any aio. With faster/louder fans it might get better stock performance, but it wouldn't provide better performance in push/pull. Moral of the story, buy some cheap and quiet P14s for pull.
push/pull on this newer Arctic would be better with better 14mm fans.
But is that the case? He shows that with the mild P14s in push/pull he is getting most out of it.@@xBINARYGODx
Just ordered my P14s Max today 😌
@@ogxcoleman howd you manage that lmfao, they're prema sold out
I currently have the LFiii 420 in my system in push pull... It made my 7950X draw so much power trying to reach yhe 95 degree stock targe ttemp that it made the whole thing unstable. I did manage to get some benchmarks of the LFii 420 and it prrforms better with a slightbundervolt and max temp set to 75 C... I managed a 38K score in cinebench all core. Stock settings had it at 37K. My fans worj a bit harder though, at most they soun up to 1400 RPM but thats even louder than the case fans which are set to 1600 and I can't control them. Its complete overkill and I love it.
So, what fans would allow the Liquid Freezer III both 420 and 360 to reach it's potential? Does it have to be a push/pull config, or are they superior fans that would allow it to reach it's potential? It's rather amazing the EK Nucleus at 360mm keeps up with the LF 420.
I’m in the process of finding the answer to that.
The max performance can certainly be reached by a triple fan setup, I’m just not sure if I can recreate the noise to performance curve without push-pull
Maybe Noiseblocker eLoop B14-P fans? They are 30mm thick fans with wide blades that are connected on the edges, great for static pressure.
Smiling with my LF2 420 push/pull with 6x Noctua NF-A14 PPC 3000, wish the LF3 was available 3mo ago.
Don’t forget about condensation
ippc fans have heavy duty and a lot noisier motors. Those fans are horrible for noise/performance ratio.
Same... Just finished my build 🤦
I had same fans on my h170 and the LF III still beats it with standard fans . I still have the noctua but like the quiet .. not used to it :-$)
@@TTks124 No problems if you set fan curves in BIOS. 🧠
Lower the noise by adding a spacer with thinner fans or longer screws.. or quieter fans
only pushing 250w doesn't really do anything against a well installed LF3, try pushing 375w, it might get warmer xD
Thanks for the review. I had just ordered a LF3 argb and added 3 P14's so I can push pull right out of the box. I've run high speed radiator fans in the past, Scythe, and they were super loud so I'm looking forward to this combo to tame my 13900k as my current evga clc 360 with antec prizm x fans will thermal throttle under high load.
lmk how its working out i want to do this with my 420 LF3 7800x3d
@@ItzzParty Do it and you won't regret it. The fans get a bit loud once the temps start coming up but I'll take that over a hot cpu. Sadly Cinebench still causes thermal throttling but its way cooler than before for everything else.
Great video as always, but if you had to pick between three AIOS currently what direction would you go for the 13900K? The EK 360? Lian Li GA II Performance or the LF III 420mm with the push and pull setup? Or does anyone have any experience between these AIOs currently?
@STSYT You've convinced me, I'm running this exact set up with LF III ARGB + 3x P14 Max fans. Can you tell me what is the RPM above which increasing RPM speed doesn't do anything for this radiator in push pull? That would also be a helpful data in your future videos for people who replicate your setups.
Try the A-rgb version. It has the rims you're talking about, and it definitely improves the noise/rpm ratio especially on the 140mm version of the P series.
Possible, I just try to avoid talking about it until I get a unit. No need to speculate in my position
@@STSYT wow this is a next lvl of lame. Removing a comment for suggesting watching complementary data on another reviewer. Great community.
I have no clue what comment you’re referring to, nor have I removed any comment. Checked the filter, nothing was blocked.
Your comment or somebody else?
To quote The Simpsons “I sure hope someone got fired for that blunder” 🤣 first time viewer, take my subscription :D
I got the 280 Freezer III. Long time since I've had an AIO. I was surprised when I couldn't feel any air moving through the radiator.
That is very interesting and on the bright side, an LFIII + a 3-pack of P12s(for the 360mm) or P14s will probably still set you lower than some competitor AIOs (at least with the current anniversary discount), which is just dumb at this point.
I actually do hope Arctic tries to take this into account further down the line, and they can even go the "lazy way" about it and just offer a standard LFIII 360/420 + a slightly discounted fan 3-pack as a combo, the idea being to not need to make new boxes, shipping procedures etc.
Or just add better fans, no need to make this a thing. Next gen P14’s could make it work
I today am testing the Lian Li Trinity Performance 360 using the included P28 fans and some AL120 V2 fans in push pull. You so badly have me wanting to scrap this idea and just go with the LFIII 420 and use the AL140 V2 fans on it that I have.
Yea, I am looking at 6 BeQuiet Silent Wings Pro 4 (140) max speed 2400 . I have 3 BeQuiet Silent Wings Pro 4 (140) not in use, perhaps purchase three more... I really should not watch his videos - it causes unnecessary purchases on my end or at least thats what I tell myself.
@@AM-hm5eq haha Yea. Watching any TH-camr can make ya want to get the latest when the product is good or they talk about it really well
@@AM-hm5eq good luck to you!
@@HanmaHeiro I tested the thought of push/pull on my case Lian Li 011 Dynamic EVO RGB and I would have to remove the top cover and attach the fans to the bracket. Perhaps I will create my second TH-cam video... now where is that mic and camera....
@@AM-hm5eq lol I couldn't do my ideal setup of top mounting. So I went with a front mount. 11 degree improvement over the Enermax Liqmax 360! But having the AIO at the front messes with the way I had my computer designed. So I went ahead and bought the LFIII 420 to replace the galahad performance. Haven't been able to install it just yet
I have the new 360 and dropped temps by 3-5c by swapping the p12 to thermalright tl-c12c-s fans i already had
Can I see the build?
Great video as always..well done
One critique I have, if I might.
Please simplify your graphs and bar charts. Most of these videos are watched on a mobile phone, and it’s impossible to see any details when you are comparing all those AIOs. Maybe just stick to the few that are relevant, a couple better and a couple worse. Every time I see a chart, I need to pause and zoom in.
Thanks! Happy you enjoyed it!
About the graph, I know, not the first time I heard this. I’m aware of how hard they are to read, but I’m kinda restricted by the software I’m currently using.
I’m actively working on a solution, but because I want it to do very specific things, I’m forced to create it myself. Will take some months to have it working to the point where it’s presentable, but don’t worry, I know about the issue, and it won’t be forgotten
Appreciate the effort. Best of luck with the channel!
I just got a black non rgb 360mm freezer iii for $90 and gonna throw t30s on it boom probably the best aio you can get.
most likely better than anything else you could get for the same price
You should add another test to all your AIO products' testing: fan-standardized tests using either 3 or 6 Phanteks T30 fans (at least for the 120 mm fan version AIOs). Doing fan-standardized tests, I discovered that my original model-style Swiftech H320 from 2012 or 2013 is superior to my Arctic Liquid Freezer 2 360 even though the ALF2 has, both, a thicker AND denser radiator. I did the tests with 3 different sets of fans: 6x Swiftech Helix 120 (push/pull), 6x Arctic P12 (push/pull), 3x Phanteks T30. The Swiftech was 2-4 degrees cooler than the Swiftech with all 3 fan models and at all RPMs (600, 900, 1200, 1500, 1800, 2100, 2400, 2700, 3000). I re-mounted, re-pasted, and tested everything 3 times each.
The good thing is that now you can benchmark fans by strapping them on the LFIII 420/360.
I replaced the fans on my LFII 280 with toughfan 14 pro. maybe try doing the same,probably not as good as push pull but its the best fan for thicc rads,least till' Phanteks makes a 140mm t-30 .
We actually got a toughfan 14 Pro waiting around for the review. If it’s anything close to the 12 Pro, it’s definitely a candidate for the first spot!
@@STSYT Well it's marketed as a fan for custom water cooling so it's better be good.
@@100500daniel oh man 😂 wait until I release these Endorfy Reviews. Never trust whatever manufacturers write. Whoever does copy doesn’t have to know anything about the thing he’s writing about
@@STSYT Alphacool Moment
I came across this video after I had firmly decided to create push-pull in my future system, and this once again convinced me of the correctness of my decision. But I want to ask you a question: my render station: Ryzen 7950x in a lancool 3 + Liquid freezer 3 420 rgb case. I plan to install it vertically with the tubes up. I also purchased the p14 max arctic fans pack. Where does it make sense to install them? Option 1: add the second row to the freezer. Option 2: install under the top cover of the housing to push hot air through a nylon filter. In this case, the 3 lian Li fans that came with the case will become the second row on the aio. Or swap the sets? In the second case, will I be able to control the high power of the p14 max to take advantage of their power?
And how did you connect the additional fans? Separately or to those that were immediately with the AIO?
What if I used Lian Li fans instead? Would that help Or would you recommend a Nzxt Kraken with some Lian li fans?
I'm interested to know this too
Is this push pull 420 configuration the best CPU cooler or the best AIO cooler? I got a local deal in Brazil and am looking to get ready for a very soon 9590x3d (as soon as it launches)
Pov : If you look at these types of graphs all day long, you will start to see weird patterns.
Me :
I forgot the psychological damage Excel does to the average human
What about testing the Arctic Liquid Freeze III with Phanteks T-30 fans?
If we get a 360, we’ll probably do it
I'm really confused why they didn't wait with LF III until P14 Maxes were ready.
Exactly!
SCREWS = UNC 6-32 at 32mm length for both sides!
Roughly 1.25 to 1.26".
Thanks for the review. It made me want to try push pull as well, and being a Noctua snob I was surprised how inexpensive a 5pack of those P14 was on eBay. So naturally I had to get one. Since I still had my Alphacool screws from the olden days, I figured I was good to go. Ah crap, no. That's definitely not the right type. So looking at those, I saw the shorter ones being at 30mm, the longer at 35mm, I figured I needed just about those 35mm, if not even more with the thicker P14 fans, to mount the rad and fans to the top of my case. Oh boy, unit wars. How many fractions of an inch ... what?
Let's poke the Arctic support. Took a week to get a response but that it was a good one. He apologized for a high ticket volume, referenced my name and a mentioned eBay order of those fans, and immediately sent out an entire set of screws and extras. It still made me wonder about the length. The other side had to be longer, right? Nope. Second answer said it fit and it does.
Thanks, Arctic Simon!
What kind of case do you guys use to make the LF3 push pull fit other than putting it in the front?
I figured my Fractal Meshify 2 XL had plenty of space, until I actually added those 27 + 38 + 27mm and idiot me realized that was more than the allotted 80mm of space for the top section of the case. 🙄
Arctic was unable to supply me with the spare part. Removing the mesh from the top cover was a waste of time. It still doesn't fit with the offset mounted fans.
Pump noise is surprisingly agreeable, unless it runs full speed. Reddit had me fear the worst before. Pump and VRM at 50% don't stand out from the rest of the system. I can't recommend FanControl enough. Mainboard software has always been icky. There is however a bubble going brrr when I ram up the pump RPM. All radiator fans are set to 45% (~850RPM) and I honestly can't even tell yet if it makes a difference at all.
I would have loved to see what ATX XL Case would be able to fit the 6 x 14mm push pull ALF III 420 Radiator snugly.
Do you think replacing the 6xP14 with something higher static pressure would yield any further benefit?
I wonder what the difference would be if the same push pull config was done to the EK and Azza AIOs.
It’s not likely that I’ll repeat the same thing with more aios, but there will definitely be a standardized max performance testing in the future
@@STSYT Understandable. Main reason I am curious about a push pull with the other leading AIOs on that list is that the radiators are normal sized, making it a bit more "case compatible". That Arctic is a chunky boi!
Once Noctua finally releases their square NF-A14x25 fan, I'd love to see the Arctic Liquid Freezer III with 6 x Noctua NF-A14x25 140mm square fans and compared to the EK Nucleus AIO CR360 with 6 x Noctua NF-A12x25 120mm square fans.
Hey all!
I bought LF III 360 RGB & i have a push/pull setup with using Phanteks T30's and its awesome, fans dont have to run very high, like 1k rpm while 4k gaming. I am using an AMD 7950X, with all core locked to 5.2 Ghz and my package temp while gaming and doing other side things, is like 38C to 40c most of the time, sometimes hit 42c, hope this helps.
Do you think the 360 likely suffers from the same underperforming fans? Or rather could squeeze more performance out with push pull?
Please test Arctic Liquid Freezer III 360 with 3x P12 Max, that is going to be cool to test and see how it works, my first question is how loud will it be.
Definitely will as soon as a 360 arrives!
Hardware Canucks did replace the stock fans with P12 Max and the results were the following (254W at 38dB): 86.2°C stock vs 83.6°C Max. The only AIO that didn't benefit from replacing the stock fans was the T30 AIO.
Too bad they're freaking expensive. Where I live I can get 9 P12 Max for the price of a 3 T30...
I've seen that Arctic released P14 Max. I would absolutely love to see how those fans will perform with this cooler.
You need to try out the Lian Li Galahad Performance with push pull! :)
Either way i always did a push pull config on my Freezer II, now on my kids rig ... amazing performance, but of course, not all cases can handle it.
Once I’m done finding the perfect radiator fans, there is going to be standardized testing for ‘potential’ performance in every review. Probably also going to re-test some older stuff like the GA
@@STSYT tbh due to the Galahad lack of reliability… I’ve been thinking about the 420 freezer. Although technically I think the Galahad is better, with stronger pump, larger ID of the tubing and the higher fin density.
But although in the paper everything looks awesome… the pump problems are still there since I’m on my second unit. My lian li has 6 p12 max and it’s been amazing but I have base to compare since I’m using a zen4
@@PedroSombreireiroI bought the of 420. I still have my ga performance but my pump head is making loud bearing sounds, and I am not ready to ram for the 2nd time.
Oh oh .... P14 MAX are out!!!!! :D
@@Nods.O i have 2 x GA Performance. So i will wait for my first one to die, so i can use the second and let it die too ... after that, i will get the LFIII 420 :D
‘’My personal monster”……you should put that on a mousepad
If I ever do channel merch, that’s the first thing on my list
I stuck some Pkanteks T30's onto my Liquid Freezer 3 360mm AIO and the difference is night and day especially at lower fan speeds, at max it's a monster but so is the noise!
Out of curiosity, how would the Liquid Freezer III perform with T30 fans? I ask because I have 3 fans in storage 💀
That would be on a 360mm then, probably slightly better than original, but that’s just a guess
@@STSYT oh that’s right! I completely forgot they’re 120mm fans, appreciate the guess though!
To be fair you *could* 3d print or buy an adapter and try anyway
@@analogicparadox or use these Noctua adapters. Which I believe I already did in these ‘MAX’ videos?
I had 3000 rpm Noctua fans on my h170 and the LFIII 420 still beats it.. I may pit the Noctua fans on the 420 just to see the difference
What about the clearence between this and the top of the MB? If I did this MOD wouldn't I need to install it on the top and outside of my case? I'm quessing this setup would be 50% thicker. Showing it mounted in a case would interesing to see.
True that it could create an issue, but that’s also entirely case dependent. Best I could do is mention the total thickness, but that’s about it
Would it be possible to have a new test with P14 Max? That would answer how freezing it can go..
You can push more of this rad by using all fin space on it. Put 3 25mm shroud, and 3 Noctua IPPC 3000 RPM, seal the thing for have no gap with neopren and check result. Because yes push pull is good for sur but each fan center hub space is not used without shroud.
I'd Like to get 2x 280 rads but create one loop, I'd have one at the top of the case & one vertical at the front of case(which already has some fans but I would like them on both side of the rad, but am wondering if I could get the pipes off & on again, I wouldnt want to ruin the seal that an AIO should already have, also wondering if it's just water inside, and if I ever needed to top them up I'd top up the top one, but wouldnt want to do that in the case, so the whole thing would have to come out, which makes me wonder if I can be bothered with all that & just get an air cooler.
Honestly: I don't see this as an issue whatsoever. With current preorder prices, this performance at only 82€ for the black version or 96€ for the ARGB one, this is a previously unreached level of performance (couldn't even have dreamt of something like this at this price). So any decision on their side to enable this price to performance ratio was correct.
Note: got my ARGB one laying next to me, I'll swap it in tomorrow😂
i already purchased 420 aio and looking for to buy phanteks d30-140 fans. but this much thickness is worrying me already. Is deepcool morpheus or lian li o11 dynamic evo xl will have enough clearance for both. I am really open to suggestions.
Would love to give you an answer, but I have neither of those cases, so no idea 😅
@@STSYT 🤞
I have a similar case (011 Dynamic EVO RGB) and I have installed the OEM Artic III 420, the problem would be the rear 120mm fan. The rear 120 mm fan set at the lowest setting would leave you with 1/2 and inch in space. If the fans you would like to use are not greater than 1/2 in depth your good to go. Although I wonder if the 120mm would fight with the 140mm for air space....
What about the arctic bionix fans? What would be the best fans to add or replace with just the arctic line of fans? Is it better to just add or replace all the fans?
I don’t particularly like them. On paper, they seem like regular p/f 12/14 on steroids, but in reality their frame has too many drawbacks
I see, thanks. I will be waiting on your fan recommendation then before I spend. If it were up to me, it makes sense to support arctic but we shall see by the test results.
Nice video...from an air cooler only SFF builder.
Can you do a test with the diferences between the P12/P14, Argb/non Argb, noise/performance levels? And whats quieter or pushes more air: 2x140mm or 3x120mm fans. Thanks
Do you think strapping phanteks t30s instead of the standard fans would make better sound to performance on the lf 3 360?
It does, I had a 2-4C drop in temps but more importantly i could set a very quiet curve and it was still decent cooling. Haven't tested the iii yet but got d30 140mm on the 280 so we'll see
Are the "phanteks t30s" thicker than the Artic P14's? What screws would you end up using?
@@AM-hm5eq they are 5mm thicker and come with longer radiator screws so you don't need to worry on that front
I was about to delid my 14900k and go for the EK.
Instead I will go push/pull with the LF3 420 now.
Any recommendations on what 6 fans I should get?
Can it get even more silent than the arctic p14 without increasing temps?
My best guess would be the old A14s, but no promises
@@STSYT ty, I will have a look at them!
Can change the fans? I remember the previous one had the fan pwm cables running along the sheathe of the tube.
This is the same as the previous. But what is the problem if you want to replace the fans? It has a 3way spliter PWM cable running along the sheathe of the tube. Just unplug the arctic fans and put the fans you want.
So, technically, if we just look at the aio without considering the fans, this is at the top?
That would mean that by using six more powerful fans (ek or noctua for example) and doing push/pull config, one would get the best possible aio, right?
Hard to say without testing every aio with the same fan. I’ll probably include this type of testing in the future, just haven’t settled on the fan choice jet
@@STSYT Thanks for such a quick reply. I've had a liquid freezer II 420 for quite a while and wanted to upgrade my cooling in a month or two. Right now i'm conflicted between the EK nucleus cr360 and this one. Both would be push/pull but I think the former wouldn't benefit nearly as much as the latter from this configuration due to its much thinner radiator.
@@rickcelestino2620 you’re welcome! And absolutely possible. I would love to give a more exact answer, but I doubt we are going to finish testing in that time span :/
the most profitable option would be to buy the A-rgb version of the LF III 360/420 and purchase a set of 3 P12/P14 A-rgbs, since they are more productive than the regular P12/P14 and have a hydrodynamic bearing, unlike the MAX version
What about P14max fans vs the normal ones? 😁😎🤘🏻
Can you do a test with the LFIII 280 too please?
I'm not saying that you are wrong, but you assume that the radiator was at its maximum and the bottleneck.
However, if it wasn't, then any changes to the pump cap, tubing etc. could lead to increased thermal transfer in the new version.
And in this case previously unused potential by both radiator and fans could be used.
As I said, you might be right, but it's not as simple as it seems.
You’re right, there are more variables. But this was not really meant to point fingers at the old LFII, or call out a single aspect which may have led to this, but more about proving that the new one has much more potential than it seems
We’ll probably never know the full scope of this as nobody will ever try to transplant the old rad onto the new one or vice versa.
But definitely interesting if anything else might have been at fault, or a combination of things
try other fan brand and config on freezer iii
Will do in the near future
So which cooler do we buy for coldest cpu
is this a bad issue ? not sure i fully understood , should i not buy ?
Noise to performance stats. CPU temps are backward tracked. From the graph - lowering temps means higher trending dbA (noise)?
Have you test the ARGB version too?
i think the ARGB P14 is a bit better with an outer ring
What screw/screw sizes did you use to add the additional fans?
did u ever get ur answer?
when will you review the thermalright phantom spirit evo air cooler?
arctic liquid freezer ii 420.... VS.... arctic liquid freezer iii 420... Which one is best for long time editing & gaming?
Is nucleous 360 better than that?
In my Be Quiet Silent Base 802 case I currently have three Cooler Master Mobius 140 ARGB fans. Could I use those instead of the extra Arctic fans at the front of the AIO?
check the CFM at the speed you want to run them, and see what the current arctic is doing, if they are not far apart i guess its good
Can you get a 360 and strap three p12 max to see if that is a good combo?
Test with the just released Arctic P14 max fans please. I have a feeling that might be a winning combo!
Keep in mind that thing with the fans would change if you used different fans, so you cannot say the rad is done due to not much temp change at the top of the fan speeds in absolute sense, you can only say that is true for those fans. fan-only tests sometimes show the last 10-20% doesnt do as much as people might think in terms of flow and pressure.
Arctic is cool but I wish they would add an LCD panel and I am not sure I want an extra vrm fan on my AIO since it would make extra noise. However I never tried an Arctic AIO so I might be missing out.
The vrm fan can definitely be classified as ‘good to have, but not necessary’. About the LCD, maybe, just not everyone wants that kind of stuff. Maybe an optional upgrade option
You cant hear the vrm fan
Or just unplug it
I'm glad they didn't do that, what you gotta understand is leaving out that stupid LCD screen is a part of what lowers the price, the other companies put a huge mark up just because that little screen. The VRM fan is also function over form and in my opinion it looks better. I'd rather not give arctic a reason to mark up the price, thankfully they're a good company so maybe they wouldn't but I think Arctic made a great decision to not have an LCD screen.
Based on the "Magnetic Connection of the VRM" it would be super easy for Artic to create an LCD attachment to the pump. I think ... I think .... One could use the VRM connection to power the LCD Screen then create via 3d printer a new topper attach said LCD screen and whala... Again this is a I think.
So we should attach T30s to them?
yes i will do that
I have an AM4 CPU the Ryzen 7 5800X3D and bought the new Arctic Liquid Freezer III 280 Black does the new AM4 offset brackets come with it and inside the box and doesn’t touch my m.2 nvme like the old revisions except rev 4 on ALF II which showed a half an inch of the IHS to cover the hot CCD or CCD’s or do I have to order one through there website?
Congratz i today boughr LFIII i wanted change from my LFII boughr in november 2023 for better design and i broken my mobo where i had installed Thermatake AM5 frame.... With "old" Liquid freezer i had no problém and first install Liquid freezer III im broken motherbkard on right side Near rams.... GJ arctic maked púmp with so strong metal bended plate which broken motherboards...
Cant be mad for what i paid, 100 euros for the freezer 3 rgb 280, i can just change the fans and it still gonna be cheaper than all of the other coolers with that come with better fans
Wouldve loved to see 280 version in push pull
Do a video with the arctic liquid freezer iii 420 aio with different fans like the lian li uni tl fans
Can you redo this test with the P14 max in both push and push pull?
And what about EK Nucleus 120x6 vs Artic 140x6?
do you know how akasa 360 dusk edition is?
Still one of the best AIO's out there.
I think it's funny how this review is titled "Arctic made a HUGE mistake" and yet Arctic links to it on their product page for the liquid freezer iii lol
Man you do a great job reviewing stuff. Have you have a chance to test the Phanteks d30 420mm AIO? I would like to know how it stands against the new arctic
I have a Lian Li 011 Dynamic EVO RGB case with the following set up. 2 BeQuiet Silent Wings Pro 4 (140) fans side intake, 3 BeQuiet Silent Wings Pro 4 (140) bottom Intake, 1 BeQuiet Silent Wings Pro 4 (120) back exhaust. I could possibly have a push/pull, I would have to remove the top grate and affix the fans to the fan bracket mount. Just wondering if 3 BeQuiet Silent Wings Pro 4 (140) is good enough or should i have 6 BeQuiet Silent Wings Pro 4 (140) in push/pull? I only have an Intel 136000K CPU, I may not see a benefit in a push/pull although it would be an experiment. I wonder at say 180 watts is it needed. I wonder what wattage would be needed for a push/pull six 140 set up. ..... Argh this is so long.
What case could be used for this push pull configuration?
Corsair 7000d/x will be fine.
aha. do you want to make this type of video from all other AIOs too, if there is no better fan yet available? this will be a hell of a interesting playlist
bro do this same test with 6x P14 ARGB fans which you proved to be better than that P14. interested to see the results!~~
Will do as soon as it arrives!
@@STSYT awesome! :) :) hope you're having a good weekend
@@three36ixx you too!
Have anyone encountered rattling noise from the pump on LF3? There is a thread on reddit so I'm not the only one but I'm kinda curious what youtube reviewers might say or if the encountered it. Also, sadly artcic ignores the ticket for almost two weeks already.
This cooler is awesome and not a HUUUUUGGGEEE Mistake.
I wonder how it changes on amd platform
That’s a very good question. I’m about to start on the AMD benchmark machine, and I’ll make sure to re-do all of this
Can anyone give me the rundown what was the mistake? Fins too stacked? Reusing older fans? Not selling the unit with push/pull setup to compensate for old fans? Releasing the unit to early with the assumption that revision is coming with newer fans? I mean that kinda makes sense, considering AF2 had like 7 revisions. I watched the video, just don't get it.
I could barely fit the 420 in my case, let alone if I add a layer of fans!
Besides, prime95 can't push my 7950x3d past 62 degrees C so I'm good.
got freezer2 in 280 with push pull and it is good
For what CPU?
P14 max fans would be good for this.
Hm okay nice for Artic.... My Alphacool Monsta with 3x180 is freezing all just fine for me =)
Always wanted to benchmark one of these 😅
@ Yeah =)
I have a 3700X with a 2070 Super on this Rad.
About 2h by 22°C room is: max 44°C on GPU and CPU 57°C. CPU has the Uefi setting with Load line High and Boost 10x. So far its chilled.