@ARCTIChannel I love you ARCTIC TEAM!!! You are the best !!! I prefer 1000000 times to have a fan than a display because if I want to bring my CPU it has 250 degrees fixed stabilized I don't want to see temperatures that are too high you have my VRMs!! I can't do it with the opposing parties. ! Well done!! keep it up' !! This is the right way!! I can't wait to put the I9-15900K with the Artic Liquid Freezer III 420 mm in my new PC I'm excited🤩🤩 💙💙
@@Tpecep I have already found tests, thank you, Phanteks is the best, then the Nucleus, but the radiator is better on the Nucleus, on third-party fans, the Arctic is optimized for quiet fans, its radiator. And the results fluctuate greatly, on the AMD Arctic 3 it is very strong, on the Intel it is weaker. And the result also jumps depending on the speed.
I fitted my ARGB 420mm rev III cooler a couple of days ago, it went well. I wasn't sure about the RGB variant, but its fine. I use a Meshify 2 XL case and whilst the 450mm pipes are the same length it was helpful for me having them end at the block in the middle, their previous model, as against ending at the bottom of the block. Altho they are on turning heads now. Yes, with such a size of case 450mm pipes are just able to manage.! It is nice having the chance to control the pump, VRM fan and radiators fans separately. All of mine being se with a slope. You get varying opinions of what the max and typical running temperatures should be for VRM's. So whilst they can be cooled, I'm not sure how important that is. I can imagine that it was a difficult job to improve greatly on their previous model, as it was and still is so good. Decent changes made tho, whilst retaining the qualities that the previous one had. I was a little hesitant at first changing the contact frame for my 14700k. But it went well, using an "X" method for the paste. Good review.
@@reinulf656 Sound is kinda subjective, in what people will be aware of. As I have got older having a quiet PC is becoming more important. To that end I use "Argus Monitor" to set fan curves for each section of my case fans and then all of the AIO fans, each with their own curves based on the average CPU temp over a 10 second period. Because of that near silence, no mech HD's etc, any additional noise can be heard. Switching to manual control for the pump fan, or the VRM / radiator, and then increasing that, yes it is apparent. Typically, for me, increases in heat and load will mean playing a game, then that adds the sounds from that compensates for the ramping up of the fans on their curves to compensate. So the game noise / music will mask the noise increase from the AIO. Many games only utilise so little of the CPU as well, for me that adds to the question on whether to run the pump at 100% all of the time. Whilst I can imagine that on the rev 2 AIO the pump was always going at 100%, I don't know as I was not able to measure that, I don't think that it needs to be always doing that. If I manually just raise that pump speed to 100%, whilst everything else is running at very low speeds, then yes it is noticeable. My RTX 4080, unless gaming, has zero fans when just browsing or light GPU loads.
@@Vimes. I would also definitley recommend running at the pump below 100% for ligher loads with this model. Gamer nexus just did in depth testing and the pump makes up much more noise proportional to the fans than is normal (despite not being an actual problem or anything) than in their noise normalised results running the pumps lower and the fans higher for the same sound output gave better results than the pump at 100%. You clearly dont need water being moved around so fast fast then itd be heating up so slowly while in the block not being cooled by the radiator fans that it should be turned down with 0 issues here and in fact may even improve noise to performance as i said. Gamer nexus found this at about 1400rpm fan speed btw so if while gaming ur fans are spinning slower than that 1000% do that. He did 70% pump speed fyi
@@Frozoken Thanks. I am running the pump at 40% in most circumstances. n fact it would only increase to around 75% when the CPU is at full load and running at a high temperature. I will take a look at that video, thanks for letting me know about it.
I'm gonna get the 280 and throw their marginally better Bionix P140 fans on it. According to their own site the Bionix fans can move 5 additional cubic feet of air per minute and have a higher static pressure of I forget what.
This is great value for money in the uk you can get the 360 for just £75 thats around half the price of my Lian-Li galahad performance and performs very similar!
How's the Galahad Performance holding up? Was going to get it for my new build but saw a lot of failed pumps and RMA reports of bad communication and 2-3mth silence and waits for replacements which has put me off. Now considering the Arctic in this video where I've seen some people having issues with gaskets etc but them reporting brilliant no questions asked RMA replacements, it's also half the price like you said.
@rikman81 I've replaced it with direct die but it was still going strong when I was using it and it's my backup just in case. I highly recommend it personally but if you've seen bad things on it then maybe try something else
Really interested in the new cases that can possibly fit this! The thickness of this radiator is what was a problem, even with cases that could officially fit 420 rads, like the Fractal Define 7 or Meshify 2. Only their XL versions were able to fit it without problems and possibly cutting away parts of the fan edges.
I put my LF3 420 in a LianLi LanCool3, top mount, hoses forward, still takes rear 140 and 3 front 140s, requires removal of rear 140 for install/uninstall.. I like :)
I replaced my Lian Li O11 Dynamic EVO with the new Lian Li O11 Dynamic EVO RGB to fit this ALF3 420mm RGB version. Also my RTX3090 GPU is mounted vertically.
What's killing me about this AIO is the way they mounted the tubes on the waterblock. You can't even rotate it. This would have been an instant buy if they left more options there.
@@eclampsium Not sure what part was confusing. The AIO has elbow joints attached to the bottom of the waterblock. They are limited in the direction they can swivel. On top of that, the mounting system only allows for the AIO to be mounted with those elbow joints on the bottom, or inverse on the top, which is only viable with an Intel CPU and not the AMD. Why? Because they chose to offset the AMD mount. In short, you really only have one way to mount this AIO, which is highly restrictive and does not play nice with AMD + Vertical mounted GPU configurations.
The novelty of the fan design suggests that in the Arctic they finally decided to think seriously about cooling processors of the 14th generation and vice versa, including without forgetting about the motherboard
Motherboards, liquid or air coolers are great products, but the real problem is INTEL processors, 13900K/KF -14900K/KF - 13900KS these three processors are literally like an electric stove. Wherever we are in the world, we all do the same thing: We download PL1 and PL2 250-255w, but we cannot see the required 5.6ghz basic boost speed in test applications, and even if the processor does not perform thermal throttling, it still cannot show its required power due to low W. There is a constant vicious circle. If we do not lower PL1-PL2, thermal throttling occurs and the processor speed decreases. Or if we lower PL1-PL2, we get rid of thermal throttling but the processor speed decreases again. The real solution to this problem is that Intel needs to produce much more efficient processors. I would also like to hear the solutions and comments of other friends here. my system is Rtx 4080 Super + z790 + 13900KS + Corsair 420mm liquid cooler. Thanks for the video, buddy.
VRM fan test outside of a computer case with good airflow will definitely have an impact on temperatures, but not sure it would have as big of an impact inside a case with good airflow.
Maybe they can offer different pump head covers to just pop on the pump head for more costumization in the future. But I also like this new version more.
Aluminum radiator will cross contaminate with the other metals in the closed loop. The metal debris mixture suspended in the liquid coolant will build up and clog over critical flow points - over a year or two, the aio will be scrapped.
@@C20F any air-cooler with single or optional dual fan configurations. I use a Noctua D15S Chromax - but any branded air-cooler would work, just make sure to check for motherboard compatibility.
What’re your thoughts on the contact frame? If you could install it with four screws instead of two it would be better, as I don’t want to remove my own contact frame 😊
@@langer1972don’t get me wrong, it’s a nice idea for a AIO and I know it’s better then the stick ILM, but if you watch reviews, the two screws give uneven pressure
Thanks for the review. Looking really good, think will get it (the 360 version), or next version, once the AMD 9800X3D is out, till then I got Ryzen 7700 (All-core 5.25Ghz and Single-core @5.5Ghz with TjMax @88C) with Cougar Poseidon GT240 fans running @70% max = performance/noise really good, ear level less than 40db during load with 3080Ti, idle close to 27db.
I'm heading for an Arctic Freezer # 360 model after seeing this and other reviews where it has beaten out other aios on normalized noise test. On 35Db no one aio will match it... I was trudging to find a case that would accept it on top mounting and discovered that the Lian Li 216 has an air-cooling and a water-cooling mount mode. on this last one it will allow for upping from 55 to 70mm tall aio. Definitely going this route. The Galahad is competent to but at much more noise expenses. I'm heading to Lian Li 216, arctic freezer 3 and phantecs t30 fans... only the best performance/noise ratio stuff...
This is going to be the bare minimum if you want to overclock the upcoming 14900KS. It's a 410w, 1400BTUh CPU which is an astronomical amount of heat output.
i was about going to buy the Lian Li Galahad II Trinity Performance 360, as I have seen as a big recommendation in other video, but now I don't know. could you help me please
I'm using the Galahad II Trinity Performance 360 atm. Performance wise it's a beast! But the pump does have some distinct noise when 2500rpm and above, up to max. I had to RMA mine once due to Lian Li having a pump failure issue with some of the earlier batches. As far as I know the new ones to marked should be fixed now. But after seeing the A LF III reviews I actually had to order one myself. The cost difference, VRM cooling, surposed low pump noise and 6 year warranty seem like a no brainer🤩 The other AIOs have got some serious competition with this one I think👌
@@trothfox2160 I’m sure others will update the mounting to some sort of contact frame also 😊. We have the GA II LCD and the backplate on that AIO is terrible.
Is it a great cooler? Yes, but the cooler mounting mechanism especially for AM4 are the worst design ever. The screws come off super easily and you will have to compress the leaf spring quite a lot if you want to mount it. Took us hours and many failed attempt until it mounted (motherboard was bendy not sure how it did not break). Might be the worst cooler installation design I have ever seen.
My previous experiences with AiOs have made me rather "gun shy." Granted this was over 3 to 5ears ago; but, I lost two "high end" PCs due to unannounced failure of the AiOs. One had its pump "give up the ghost" while the computer was left unattended (my fault) and the other sprung a leak on the CPU and fried the CPU, motherboard, and even the Sound Blaster card. I swore I'd never trust another AiO ever again; but, maybe it is time for me to reconsider.
@@deuswulf6193 One was made by Corsair. It was a CW something or nother. It had a model number that would rival names of medications. lol The other I don't remeber as it came in the system; but, that was built by a local pc shop that is no longer in business.
@@MMOPC78 That would explain it. I also had a corsair die on me. From what I know they cheaped out on the OEM, as for a bundled AIO supplied by a local shop, yeah those are usually low end. The higher end pumps, such as the Cooler Master Atmos list a 250000 hour lifespan, which is actually the highest I have ever seen in the spec sheet for these. Usually its around 50,000 hours. Anyways, you should be fine with the top shelf AIOs like that.
@@deuswulf6193 Yeah... The shop I bought the 2nd PC from went under 6 months after I purchased my system. From what I found out later: they got their backsides handed to them in court and had to file bankruptcy. Alot of people paid for systems they next got.
I recently installed this in a new build (420 AIO version) and a couple things: - The fans are trash, two of them don't even light up, I'd HIGHLY recommend replacing them for something better - The mounting system, at least for AM5 (AMD), was EXTREMELY nerve wracking and ROUGH for me and I'm a dude with large strong hands. Not sure how most people are meant to mount these without either breaking something or just not being able to flex that mounting bracket enough to mount it properly. So yea, get 3x better 140 fans to replace them, and be prepared for a ROUGH mounting application.
you just got unlucky with your parts, usually the fans are strong enough - not sure which fan could be better, you also did no tmention any. the mounting on AMD is much easier than on Intel and you can switch the CPU easy. i guess you just had a bad day . i have the 280mm version on AMD 16 COre and it was easy to mount and i just switched yesterday to the white verion very easy took only 15 Minutes..
To make AM4-5 installation easier screw the pump head onto the mounting brackets before screwing the mounting brackets down avoids all the issues people have and a good time saver.
The Fractal Torrent is designed specifically for air cooling. I wanted one myself but since I wanted to get an LF II 360 I decided against it. The Thermalright Phantom Spirit or Peerless Assassin should work wonderfully with that case.
Unfortunately, the radiator is much too thick at 38mm. My case only allows a maximum of 34mm. Too bad, it sounded very attractive. In black it currently costs only 80,- €
@theTechNotice Just installed the LF III 420 (front mount with tubes at bottom, single control cable), 14900KS on Asus z790 ProArt Creator Wifi. The AIO pump seems like it's pretty loud even when PC is idle. My old Corsair H150i is silent. How loud is yours at idle?
I've read about someone with a similar issue. The fix is supposedly something about plugging the pump header into a different place than the fans. I'm not sure if I remember correctly, but do try looking it up. And let me know if you fixed it. :)
He just measured it wrong, it is actually the same size as on the previous version. What he did was measure the length of the new one, which is 44mm and the width of the previous one but thought it was the length and that is 40mm. So both are actually 44mm long and 40mm wide.
Yeah my guess is it will be an air cooler or a much more premium model with extremely similar specs but an LCD screen since that seems to be popular. I’d just still with what u ordered.
I ordered the 280mm white rgb version to cool an R7 7700. Hopefully it's gonna do well. By the way,would you recommend running all fans and pump with just the cpu connector or it's just better to use the separate pump and fan headers on the motherboard? I never had a liquid cooler before so i really don't know which way is best
@@nullvektor9922 Thanks, that's good to know. Please keep up the great content. You are the only one on the internet who sees cpus, GPUs, aios and other hardware from the perspective of content creation and not video games. It's much needed.
@@randysalsman6992 you clearly don't know how these CPUs are made. The chip layout is completely different between the two brands. If you want to bother researching go look up other tech channels like hardware Canucks or gamer nexus. This channel mainly focuses on intel from what I've seen.
i've neve liked AIO coolers as I rhink that unless AIO is the only option that works then if you're going to use liquid then just go all out and get the best you can. This however I would definitely buy as I thought V2 was awesome but like you what put me off was the design of the pump block. With the new design if I were being forced to use AIO then this would be my first choice without a doubt
Odd... I have the Corsair 320mm Corsair iCUE H150i Elite LCD XT INSIDE a Lian Li 011 case and my 14900k is matching your scores with that same thermal throttle for a split second in the beginning of the test till the fans and cooler catch up to contain the 14900k. I'm not seeing any difference. 🤔
I love your videos, but this wasn’t a good test. The P7 is not an issue, it’s a feature (boosting) of the 14th gen. 1) It would be good to know the SP score of that 14900k to know his efficiency , 2) Asus MCE should be enabled Remove all limits, 3) SVID behavior set to Trained, 4) AVX enabled and user specified to 0. Please look at the SVID. For just 1 run of CB or 10 min, shouldn’t be above 290W. It’s a simple CB23 test, not CB15Extreme, CB24 or Y cruncher VST+VT3 or SFT. You have to tune you VF curve and then move the curve with IA_LL’s.. that’s the proper way. Then, as many users posted here, the T30 at 3000RPM or the BeQuiet Silent wings Pro 4 at 3000RPM are a must for any rad. All AIOs work pretty much the same, I have a Nucleus, an LT750, and the old EK Elite. These CPUs require tuning, even if you get one binned. The other hint would be, ICCMAX to 420A, in ASUS BIOS should be set to 12, to avoid any current transient spike (for long-term tests)
there are only 2 AIO out there that could maybe beat this cooler. i´ve bought the 280mm version only because the bigger doenst fit into my lancool216 ( bi case anyhow) . Im running an AMD Ryzen 9 5850x full load at 4.6ghz all core 24/7 and it never breaks over 76C / ambietent at 22-23 C. Now i will try to push my CPU at its limits - it feels very safe to do with the AC FIII. it is defenetly one of the best AIO one can get and looking at its price range it is undisputed . I could take an Lian Li AIO also - they are great too and fits nice in my case but i decided to take the AC F III - its just stronger and the VRM cooling is really important at ranges i love to move my CPU . Forget about EKWB and 90% of the others...only Design over cooling efficiency could beat the Arctic AIOthe only negative point i could find is, that my fans dont spin max at 1900 rpm but just 1700 rpm... i will contact AC to ask if i should replace them
Never heard of a R9 5850x. I have a R9 5950x myself, is mine like a newer version of what you have, or the next model up but like in another part of the world other then the west?
thank you for the video, i want to build myself a new pc, so far i bought the case NZXT H9 FLOW and the Liquid Freezer III 360 Argb. Can someone tell me if that will fit. I am waiting for the new Zen5 and motherboards.
I am running EKWB Nucleus 360 with the 14900k and getting 41441 score in Cinebench R23 at stock settings, but i am getting some thermal throttling in the first 90 seconds then none after that. 10m run score. I am using a contact frame. Maybe I have not tightened it enough. Will try that on sunday
Dam ! my 1 week old new case will not support 420mm AIO and i want to upgrade the cpu mobo ,rams and AIO and i was thinking of this one :(( .....is there a 360mm variant of this cooler ?
I build my first high end pc 6 months ago ,was about to buy a big case just so it can fit the arctic luquid freezer ,but i went for be quit just cause the cables and the pump itself were so ugly.
Thank you for the video. Great info. What brand would you recommend for building a PC that is solid/reliable and is not Chinese. I need a PC for editing video and photography. I went with MIS based on reviews I read, in articles. After building the system and dealing with their tech support and issues with drivers, software glitches, I think I made a mistake. I need to get work done and fixing MSI issues is taking too long, now. Thank you.
Lenovo is a very reliable brand with great support. They work mostly with businesses but extend the same support to regular consumers. Their legion line of PC’s are great if you need graphics capabilities. Also talk to the sales chat / call them - tell them your student and to ask for a quote on whatever PC you want at a lower price. Usually you can get about 20% knocked off of any machine. I was able to get a $3000 laptop for around $2000 with a fantastic warranty
LOL, imagine complaining about MSI being chinese, which they are not, because they are taiwanese and then getting recommended Lenovo, which is an OG chinese company. 😂
I apologize for the inconvenience, but it seems there might have been a mistake with my purchase of the Arctic Freezer III ARGB 420mm cooler. Unfortunately, it appears that the package did not include the necessary screws, ARGB controllers, or thermal paste required for installation and no new contact frame from Arctic. Could you kindly assist me in resolving this issue so that I can properly install the cooler? Your help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. (I bought this cooler from Amazon (95$))
@@theTechNotice thats going to depend on orientation and GPU mount. You use a test bench, while it has its use, is not normal for most PCs built inside a case. Lots of issues can arise from from the latter.
Its worse. I have a 4090 vertically mounted, there is no way this is fitting and if it does its just barely enough that I wont feel comfortable. Imagine a leak into the GPU?
i want to ask about 7950x3d i have qube 500 and will to put it on and i got iCUE H100i ELITE CAPELLIX, wandering is good for PC, i am interior designer using 3dsmax and cad ..
Hi, a bit off topic but is there any am5 with Thunderbolt ? Currently I’m running gigabyte b550 vision d-p with TB3 with 5800x3d I need TB for my universal audio interface Cheers
Here are some X670E boards with USB 4.0 (Intel Thunderbolt, 40Gbps): ASRock X670E Taichi, Asus ROG Strix X670E-I Gaming WIFI, Asus ROG Crosshair X670E Gene, Asus ROG Crosshair X670E Hero, and Asus ROG Crosshair X670E Extreme. Not many options out there right now and really wish MSI would come out with a USB 4.0 board.
Hello. I am going to build a new PC. All parts have already been purchased, except for the case. I need a case that will fit a 420mm cooling system. I am thinking of ordering Lian Li O11D evo rgb. However, what you said made me doubt about the Fractal. Do you think the release date is close, is it worth the wait? I would be grateful if you could give a little hint. Thanks!
@@3dnkdesign Did you decide? I'm contemplating the same case/rad-combo actually. Fractal is in a Swedish retailers online stream on Thursday so I hope they will reveal it then :)
@@Olofberglund Since all my parts are already purchased and waiting to be built, I have ordered a Lian Li O11D evo rgb which will arrive in 10 days. However, if Fractal comes up with a case worth waiting for, I might order it. Let's wait for the presentation :)
@@3dnkdesign Alright! That is an option ofc :P Didn't think of that. I need to get the case and SSD to be able to start but I'm still undecided on RGB or not so I haven't ordered any fans or AIO yet.
Hi! A have this cooler and Asus Rog Strix Z790-E II and use all-in-one (single) cable connected to motherboard CPU_Fan header. In bios settings the pump speed shows N/A and Fan expert shows Pump speed 0 Is that correct because I dont use the individual 3-cable setup or is something wrong?
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Thanks for this great and detailed review! 💙
Thanks for making awesome product, can't wait to show the next one, that's even more impressive! :)
Need a non-RGB version of the 420mm please
@ARCTIChannel I love you ARCTIC TEAM!!! You are the best !!! I prefer 1000000 times to have a fan than a display because if I want to bring my CPU it has 250 degrees fixed stabilized I don't want to see temperatures that are too high you have my VRMs!!
I can't do it with the opposing parties. ! Well done!! keep it up' !! This is the right way!!
I can't wait to put the I9-15900K with the Artic Liquid Freezer III 420 mm in my new PC I'm excited🤩🤩
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This is my favorite PC channel the level of detail you dive into is so refreshing. Only a few out there like yourself Tech Notice.
Trinity Performance 360, EKWB Nucleus 360, and sure Phanteks 360 T30 - please to testing with this Arctic!
Would love to see such a test with T30's on all of the AIOs. More consistensy, to have some data on what the actual coolers themselves perform like
1. Nucleus (but louder than LF3)
2. T30 (price is high enough)
3. LF3 (radiator thickness is getting on way to mount on top in many cases)
@@Tpecep I have already found tests, thank you, Phanteks is the best, then the Nucleus, but the radiator is better on the Nucleus, on third-party fans, the Arctic is optimized for quiet fans, its radiator. And the results fluctuate greatly, on the AMD Arctic 3 it is very strong, on the Intel it is weaker. And the result also jumps depending on the speed.
I got this exact cooler sitting next to me while I'm waiting on a Thermaltake Tower 300 case. Can't wait to set this up.
exactly what im doing, i had a concern that being so large it may not fit, thickness wise ?, also is it easy to swap the fans out/around ?, thank you
Hwo did it go?
i love the contact frame mount. thats a really nice feature for am4/5 its super easy montage.
There is no contact frame for amd cpus only the Intel.
I fitted my ARGB 420mm rev III cooler a couple of days ago, it went well. I wasn't sure about the RGB variant, but its fine.
I use a Meshify 2 XL case and whilst the 450mm pipes are the same length it was helpful for me having them end at the block in the middle, their previous model, as against ending at the bottom of the block. Altho they are on turning heads now. Yes, with such a size of case 450mm pipes are just able to manage.!
It is nice having the chance to control the pump, VRM fan and radiators fans separately. All of mine being se with a slope. You get varying opinions of what the max and typical running temperatures should be for VRM's. So whilst they can be cooled, I'm not sure how important that is.
I can imagine that it was a difficult job to improve greatly on their previous model, as it was and still is so good. Decent changes made tho, whilst retaining the qualities that the previous one had. I was a little hesitant at first changing the contact frame for my 14700k. But it went well, using an "X" method for the paste.
Good review.
Thanks for your mini review! Are you happy with the noise of the pump? Can you hear it at the different rates of your slope?
@@reinulf656 Sound is kinda subjective, in what people will be aware of. As I have got older having a quiet PC is becoming more important. To that end I use "Argus Monitor" to set fan curves for each section of my case fans and then all of the AIO fans, each with their own curves based on the average CPU temp over a 10 second period.
Because of that near silence, no mech HD's etc, any additional noise can be heard. Switching to manual control for the pump fan, or the VRM / radiator, and then increasing that, yes it is apparent.
Typically, for me, increases in heat and load will mean playing a game, then that adds the sounds from that compensates for the ramping up of the fans on their curves to compensate. So the game noise / music will mask the noise increase from the AIO.
Many games only utilise so little of the CPU as well, for me that adds to the question on whether to run the pump at 100% all of the time.
Whilst I can imagine that on the rev 2 AIO the pump was always going at 100%, I don't know as I was not able to measure that, I don't think that it needs to be always doing that. If I manually just raise that pump speed to 100%, whilst everything else is running at very low speeds, then yes it is noticeable.
My RTX 4080, unless gaming, has zero fans when just browsing or light GPU loads.
@@Vimes. I would also definitley recommend running at the pump below 100% for ligher loads with this model. Gamer nexus just did in depth testing and the pump makes up much more noise proportional to the fans than is normal (despite not being an actual problem or anything) than in their noise normalised results running the pumps lower and the fans higher for the same sound output gave better results than the pump at 100%. You clearly dont need water being moved around so fast fast then itd be heating up so slowly while in the block not being cooled by the radiator fans that it should be turned down with 0 issues here and in fact may even improve noise to performance as i said. Gamer nexus found this at about 1400rpm fan speed btw so if while gaming ur fans are spinning slower than that 1000% do that. He did 70% pump speed fyi
@@Frozoken Thanks. I am running the pump at 40% in most circumstances. n fact it would only increase to around 75% when the CPU is at full load and running at a high temperature.
I will take a look at that video, thanks for letting me know about it.
I'm gonna get the 280 and throw their marginally better Bionix P140 fans on it. According to their own site the Bionix fans can move 5 additional cubic feet of air per minute and have a higher static pressure of I forget what.
This is great value for money in the uk you can get the 360 for just £75 thats around half the price of my Lian-Li galahad performance and performs very similar!
How's the Galahad Performance holding up?
Was going to get it for my new build but saw a lot of failed pumps and RMA reports of bad communication and 2-3mth silence and waits for replacements which has put me off.
Now considering the Arctic in this video where I've seen some people having issues with gaskets etc but them reporting brilliant no questions asked RMA replacements, it's also half the price like you said.
@rikman81 I've replaced it with direct die but it was still going strong when I was using it and it's my backup just in case. I highly recommend it personally but if you've seen bad things on it then maybe try something else
Really interested in the new cases that can possibly fit this! The thickness of this radiator is what was a problem, even with cases that could officially fit 420 rads, like the Fractal Define 7 or Meshify 2. Only their XL versions were able to fit it without problems and possibly cutting away parts of the fan edges.
When might the new cases you talk about in the video be released??
Soon ;)
I put my LF3 420 in a LianLi LanCool3, top mount, hoses forward, still takes rear 140 and 3 front 140s, requires removal of rear 140 for install/uninstall.. I like :)
@@reinulf656I can highly recommend my Corsair iCUE 7000X where Liquid Freezer II 420 mm fits on top with no issues
I replaced my Lian Li O11 Dynamic EVO with the new Lian Li O11 Dynamic EVO RGB to fit this ALF3 420mm RGB version. Also my RTX3090 GPU is mounted vertically.
I went with the black 420 lll version myself , to replace a 3 year old AIO , still works ,will go in to my second system.
What case are you using and how is the fit?
Fractal Design Meshify 2 XL
@@michalsvihla1403 I have the corsair 7000d airflow all black with tinted glass side panel.
Upgrade the fans to the p140 max fans great little upgrade
@@benchvirgin4243 Are the tubes long enough to mount Tubes Down in the Front of Meshify 2 XL?
What's killing me about this AIO is the way they mounted the tubes on the waterblock. You can't even rotate it. This would have been an instant buy if they left more options there.
don't understand your comment. I liked exactly that they could be bended and rotated a little bit on the water block...
@@eclampsium Not sure what part was confusing.
The AIO has elbow joints attached to the bottom of the waterblock. They are limited in the direction they can swivel.
On top of that, the mounting system only allows for the AIO to be mounted with those elbow joints on the bottom, or inverse on the top, which is only viable with an Intel CPU and not the AMD. Why?
Because they chose to offset the AMD mount.
In short, you really only have one way to mount this AIO, which is highly restrictive and does not play nice with AMD + Vertical mounted GPU configurations.
The novelty of the fan design suggests that in the Arctic they finally decided to think seriously about cooling processors of the 14th generation and vice versa, including without forgetting about the motherboard
I wish they sold the radiator/pump without the fans for those who just want to upgrade and keep their previous fans.
Motherboards, liquid or air coolers are great products, but the real problem is INTEL processors, 13900K/KF -14900K/KF - 13900KS these three processors are literally like an electric stove. Wherever we are in the world, we all do the same thing: We download PL1 and PL2 250-255w, but we cannot see the required 5.6ghz basic boost speed in test applications, and even if the processor does not perform thermal throttling, it still cannot show its required power due to low W. There is a constant vicious circle. If we do not lower PL1-PL2, thermal throttling occurs and the processor speed decreases. Or if we lower PL1-PL2, we get rid of thermal throttling but the processor speed decreases again. The real solution to this problem is that Intel needs to produce much more efficient processors. I would also like to hear the solutions and comments of other friends here.
my system is Rtx 4080 Super + z790 + 13900KS + Corsair 420mm liquid cooler.
Thanks for the video, buddy.
VRM fan test outside of a computer case with good airflow will definitely have an impact on temperatures, but not sure it would have as big of an impact inside a case with good airflow.
Maybe they can offer different pump head covers to just pop on the pump head for more costumization in the future. But I also like this new version more.
Arctic should by now start making car radiators. that's a massive one
Nice video! What material is the provided contact frame made of? Plastic or metal?
I doubt it'll make as much of a difference on the VRM temperatures, in a proper ventilated case. But I certainly could be wrong.
The new PC can work as room heater too. It shows that our technology needs to improved 10 folds, to get efficiency without power loss as heat.
It all goes to heat in the end. The only way to improve is lower power consumption. Big changes needed
Love to see what this will do with Noctua vs the P12 Max fans.
I just got the Lian Li 360mm LCD AIO and it’s pretty nice. I donno I just think the Lian Li fans are soo damn sexy
Aluminum radiator will cross contaminate with the other metals in the closed loop. The metal debris mixture suspended in the liquid coolant will build up and clog over critical flow points - over a year or two, the aio will be scrapped.
So, which one should i get instead then?
@@C20F any air-cooler with single or optional dual fan configurations. I use a Noctua D15S Chromax - but any branded air-cooler would work, just make sure to check for motherboard compatibility.
@@Goochigoop ^^ lol
Do you have any less overpriced recommendations?
Hes asking which AIO to use and you recommend an air cooler 🤦♂️🤦♂️. Ive had an AIO for a few years and no clogs @Goochigoop
This cooler is everywhere ☠️💀. I can't escape this cooler.
Really? Give me more sources for data on the 420! I need more direct comparisons against the Trinity Performance
What’re your thoughts on the contact frame? If you could install it with four screws instead of two it would be better, as I don’t want to remove my own contact frame 😊
I think it's😀 about time a company is thinking for once top job for their engineering dept.
@@langer1972don’t get me wrong, it’s a nice idea for a AIO and I know it’s better then the stick ILM, but if you watch reviews, the two screws give uneven pressure
@@haies09 I would use a miny toque wrench.
have you tried push pull on the 420?
Thanks for the review. Looking really good, think will get it (the 360 version), or next version, once the AMD 9800X3D is out, till then I got Ryzen 7700 (All-core 5.25Ghz and Single-core @5.5Ghz with TjMax @88C) with Cougar Poseidon GT240 fans running @70% max = performance/noise really good, ear level less than 40db during load with 3080Ti, idle close to 27db.
You might be the first guy that explained how the power got to the VRM fan.
Is the direction of the cpu cooler reversible? By that I mean, could the hoses come out of the top instead of the bottom if your m2 cooler is too big?
GRRRAAAHHH I JUST BOUGHT THE II WITH NO CLUE THE III WAS COMING 4 DAYS AGO GRRRRR Still good cooler
I just ordered this cooler for my 9800x3d (when I comes out in a few days) and ordered the fractal north xl to put it in
I'm heading for an Arctic Freezer # 360 model after seeing this and other reviews where it has beaten out other aios on normalized noise test. On 35Db no one aio will match it... I was trudging to find a case that would accept it on top mounting and discovered that the Lian Li 216 has an air-cooling and a water-cooling mount mode. on this last one it will allow for upping from 55 to 70mm tall aio. Definitely going this route. The Galahad is competent to but at much more noise expenses. I'm heading to Lian Li 216, arctic freezer 3 and phantecs t30 fans... only the best performance/noise ratio stuff...
Why did you choose this one over the 420? I recently bought the i9-12900KS and I'm hesitating between the 360 and 420...
3:13 .. I have have exactly opposite opinion about what means "minimal" .. v2 is minimal, v3 is "many many little pieces that can break"
Well, you're wrong.
My 420 is keeping my 14900k at 20-30c idle, 35-40c gaming in 4k, 78c during CPU stress test.... unreal!
i got this cooler 420mm and its great, got it on an amd socket, and let me say, its a nightmare to install, so be prepared
This is going to be the bare minimum if you want to overclock the upcoming 14900KS. It's a 410w, 1400BTUh CPU which is an astronomical amount of heat output.
i was about going to buy the Lian Li Galahad II Trinity Performance 360, as I have seen as a big recommendation in other video, but now I don't know. could you help me please
I'm using the Galahad II Trinity Performance 360 atm. Performance wise it's a beast! But the pump does have some distinct noise when 2500rpm and above, up to max.
I had to RMA mine once due to Lian Li having a pump failure issue with some of the earlier batches. As far as I know the new ones to marked should be fixed now. But after seeing the A LF III reviews I actually had to order one myself. The cost difference, VRM cooling, surposed low pump noise and 6 year warranty seem like a no brainer🤩
The other AIOs have got some serious competition with this one I think👌
@@trothfox2160 I’m sure others will update the mounting to some sort of contact frame also 😊. We have the GA II LCD and the backplate on that AIO is terrible.
@@trothfox2160 I use Trinity Performance 360 on my 7950X3D, I feel it works well. Regarding this video, do you think it is better or weaker?
arctic liquid freezer ii 420.... VS.... arctic liquid freezer iii 420... Which one is best for long time editing & gaming?
Obviously the latter, even though the difference is minscule.
It is available for € 80-85 - a no brainer!
Is it a great cooler? Yes, but the cooler mounting mechanism especially for AM4 are the worst design ever. The screws come off super easily and you will have to compress the leaf spring quite a lot if you want to mount it. Took us hours and many failed attempt until it mounted (motherboard was bendy not sure how it did not break). Might be the worst cooler installation design I have ever seen.
POMP blOck definently changed
My previous experiences with AiOs have made me rather "gun shy." Granted this was over 3 to 5ears ago; but, I lost two "high end" PCs due to unannounced failure of the AiOs. One had its pump "give up the ghost" while the computer was left unattended (my fault) and the other sprung a leak on the CPU and fried the CPU, motherboard, and even the Sound Blaster card. I swore I'd never trust another AiO ever again; but, maybe it is time for me to reconsider.
What brands were the AIO? The ones that use Apaltek as their source seem to have a high failure rate.
@@deuswulf6193 One was made by Corsair. It was a CW something or nother. It had a model number that would rival names of medications. lol
The other I don't remeber as it came in the system; but, that was built by a local pc shop that is no longer in business.
@@MMOPC78 That would explain it. I also had a corsair die on me. From what I know they cheaped out on the OEM, as for a bundled AIO supplied by a local shop, yeah those are usually low end.
The higher end pumps, such as the Cooler Master Atmos list a 250000 hour lifespan, which is actually the highest I have ever seen in the spec sheet for these. Usually its around 50,000 hours.
Anyways, you should be fine with the top shelf AIOs like that.
@@deuswulf6193 Yeah... The shop I bought the 2nd PC from went under 6 months after I purchased my system. From what I found out later: they got their backsides handed to them in court and had to file bankruptcy. Alot of people paid for systems they next got.
Thats why im going with a deepcool Air cooler with me new build. God forbid a $150 AIO leaks and breaks my 4080 super
I recently installed this in a new build (420 AIO version) and a couple things:
- The fans are trash, two of them don't even light up, I'd HIGHLY recommend replacing them for something better
- The mounting system, at least for AM5 (AMD), was EXTREMELY nerve wracking and ROUGH for me and I'm a dude with large strong hands. Not sure how most people are meant to mount these without either breaking something or just not being able to flex that mounting bracket enough to mount it properly.
So yea, get 3x better 140 fans to replace them, and be prepared for a ROUGH mounting application.
"a ROUGH mounting application" sounds like something to look forward to ;)
you just got unlucky with your parts, usually the fans are strong enough - not sure which fan could be better, you also did no tmention any. the mounting on AMD is much easier than on Intel and you can switch the CPU easy. i guess you just had a bad day . i have the 280mm version on AMD 16 COre and it was easy to mount and i just switched yesterday to the white verion very easy took only 15 Minutes..
To make AM4-5 installation easier screw the pump head onto the mounting brackets before screwing the mounting brackets down avoids all the issues people have and a good time saver.
Any recommendations case for this AIO?
Does the VRN actually spin to cool the cpu down?
If I didn't already have the Arctic Freezer II, I'd get a black version and swap out the fans for the P14 Max.
its crazy artic came again with another cheapest best aio again
Does this fit inside the Fractal Torrent? the old one's radiator was a bit too big to fit in the front, how about this one?
rad is the same size :)
Torrent - just perfect case for air cooling. But water - not for him.
Didn't you watch the video? 1:50
It fits if you cut up or remove the bottom fan bracket.
The Fractal Torrent is designed specifically for air cooling. I wanted one myself but since I wanted to get an LF II 360 I decided against it. The Thermalright Phantom Spirit or Peerless Assassin should work wonderfully with that case.
Unfortunately, the radiator is much too thick at 38mm. My case only allows a maximum of 34mm. Too bad, it sounded very attractive. In black it currently costs only 80,- €
@theTechNotice Just installed the LF III 420 (front mount with tubes at bottom, single control cable), 14900KS on Asus z790 ProArt Creator Wifi. The AIO pump seems like it's pretty loud even when PC is idle. My old Corsair H150i is silent. How loud is yours at idle?
I've read about someone with a similar issue. The fix is supposedly something about plugging the pump header into a different place than the fans. I'm not sure if I remember correctly, but do try looking it up. And let me know if you fixed it. :)
You can run the pump at 60-70% from the bios and it should be ok
@@michalsvihla1403 please elaborate further because my pump struggles to cool a KS while power limited to 253W
@@blocksource4192 Have you succeeded to cool your KS? Cause I recently bought an i9-12900KS and would know if the 420 will do the job.
I'm getting this one! thanks!
Is it more durable that the others? In amazon this model is one of the most returned 😏😏😏😏
Question: Since the wires are lead through the tubing, am I able to change out the ARGB fans with others without trouble?
IHS is bigger on new CPUs so makes sense for the contact plates to be bigger.
He just measured it wrong, it is actually the same size as on the previous version. What he did was measure the length of the new one, which is 44mm and the width of the previous one but thought it was the length and that is 40mm. So both are actually 44mm long and 40mm wide.
i put this cooler in the new north XL (in the front) but the wood panel doesnt close good at the bottom. am i the only one with this problem?
I ordered a 360 version of this but cancelled it when you said that there's more coming from Arctic🤨
You know that arctic also sell air coolers, right?
Yeah my guess is it will be an air cooler or a much more premium model with extremely similar specs but an LCD screen since that seems to be popular. I’d just still with what u ordered.
Are the tubes on the LF III shorter? The ones on the LF II were barely long enough to reach my cpu
I'll let you know what my thoughts are. I just ordered one!
Which one? :)
The Ver III with ARGB. I alwasy buy the best for my PCs, doesn't all gamers?@@theTechNotice
@@outlet6989 RGB are for boy's or Girls/Women, us men perfer the black out version.
I ordered the 280mm white rgb version to cool an R7 7700. Hopefully it's gonna do well. By the way,would you recommend running all fans and pump with just the cpu connector or it's just better to use the separate pump and fan headers on the motherboard? I never had a liquid cooler before so i really don't know which way is best
The pump can make noise in certain rpm ranges so you can manage to not let it be at those rpms with this new separate cable.
Best would be to let the pump run at 100% all the time but then have the VRM fan & rad fans be controlled by CPU temp, just like in the video
Would like to see you switch from Arctic 6 to kryonaut to see if there is an improvement.
I tried both on a 7800x3d and it made 0 difference. They were both within margin of error.
@@nullvektor9922 Thanks, that's good to know. Please keep up the great content. You are the only one on the internet who sees cpus, GPUs, aios and other hardware from the perspective of content creation and not video games. It's much needed.
interesting testing technic. good info to have
How does it cool the Ryzen 7000 CPUs? Can't just show the intel side.
Agreed. AMD actually has radically different temps with this AIO due to a completely different, offset, mounting approach.
Cools AMD the same way it cools intel. With water, it is a liquid cooler. How else do you think it would cool AMD?
@@randysalsman6992 you clearly don't know how these CPUs are made. The chip layout is completely different between the two brands. If you want to bother researching go look up other tech channels like hardware Canucks or gamer nexus. This channel mainly focuses on intel from what I've seen.
Would putting thermal paste on the magnet for the small fan improve the cooling?
Which fractal case do you mean? ;)
i've neve liked AIO coolers as I rhink that unless AIO is the only option that works then if you're going to use liquid then just go all out and get the best you can. This however I would definitely buy as I thought V2 was awesome but like you what put me off was the design of the pump block. With the new design if I were being forced to use AIO then this would be my first choice without a doubt
The only logical reason to go for AIOs at this point is noise, and even that is competitive.
Odd... I have the Corsair 320mm Corsair iCUE H150i Elite LCD XT INSIDE a Lian Li 011 case and my 14900k is matching your scores with that same thermal throttle for a split second in the beginning of the test till the fans and cooler catch up to contain the 14900k.
I'm not seeing any difference. 🤔
Great video!
I love your videos, but this wasn’t a good test. The P7 is not an issue, it’s a feature (boosting) of the 14th gen. 1) It would be good to know the SP score of that 14900k to know his efficiency , 2) Asus MCE should be enabled Remove all limits, 3) SVID behavior set to Trained, 4) AVX enabled and user specified to 0. Please look at the SVID. For just 1 run of CB or 10 min, shouldn’t be above 290W. It’s a simple CB23 test, not CB15Extreme, CB24 or Y cruncher VST+VT3 or SFT. You have to tune you VF curve and then move the curve with IA_LL’s.. that’s the proper way. Then, as many users posted here, the T30 at 3000RPM or the BeQuiet Silent wings Pro 4 at 3000RPM are a must for any rad. All AIOs work pretty much the same, I have a Nucleus, an LT750, and the old EK Elite. These CPUs require tuning, even if you get one binned. The other hint would be, ICCMAX to 420A, in ASUS BIOS should be set to 12, to avoid any current transient spike (for long-term tests)
how tight do those cpu bracket screws actually need to be?
How was 270 watts thermal throttling?
there are only 2 AIO out there that could maybe beat this cooler. i´ve bought the 280mm version only because the bigger doenst fit into my lancool216 ( bi case anyhow) .
Im running an AMD Ryzen 9 5850x full load at 4.6ghz all core 24/7 and it never breaks over 76C / ambietent at 22-23 C.
Now i will try to push my CPU at its limits - it feels very safe to do with the AC FIII.
it is defenetly one of the best AIO one can get and looking at its price range it is undisputed . I could take an Lian Li AIO also - they are great too and fits nice in my case but i decided to take the AC F III - its just stronger and the VRM cooling is really important at ranges i love to move my CPU .
Forget about EKWB and 90% of the others...only Design over cooling efficiency could beat the Arctic AIOthe only negative point i could find is, that my fans dont spin max at 1900 rpm but just 1700 rpm... i will contact AC to ask if i should replace them
Never heard of a R9 5850x. I have a R9 5950x myself, is mine like a newer version of what you have, or the next model up but like in another part of the world other then the west?
@@randysalsman6992 🤡
thank you for the video, i want to build myself a new pc, so far i bought the case NZXT H9 FLOW and the Liquid Freezer III 360 Argb. Can someone tell me if that will fit. I am waiting for the new Zen5 and motherboards.
I am running EKWB Nucleus 360 with the 14900k and getting 41441 score in Cinebench R23 at stock settings, but i am getting some thermal throttling in the first 90 seconds then none after that. 10m run score. I am using a contact frame. Maybe I have not tightened it enough. Will try that on sunday
You should consider doing a push pull config on the radiator.
Can you have the cpu running red colour and blue for the cooler? 🤔
Creators are gonna love this 😂
What is the pump height without VRM fan part ?
Dam ! my 1 week old new case will not support 420mm AIO and i want to upgrade the cpu mobo ,rams and AIO and i was thinking of this one :(( .....is there a 360mm variant of this cooler ?
Yes, there is a 240,360,280,420 variant
Yes also a new gen.3 360mm cooler ist out there :)
Yep, you can get it in 240, 280, 360 & 420mm variants
i got it and my case sadley wont fitt and i cant find any recommendations online.
I build my first high end pc 6 months ago ,was about to buy a big case just so it can fit the arctic luquid freezer ,but i went for be quit just cause the cables and the pump itself were so ugly.
Thank you for the video. Great info. What brand would you recommend for building a PC that is solid/reliable and is not Chinese. I need a PC for editing video and photography. I went with MIS based on reviews I read, in articles. After building the system and dealing with their tech support and issues with drivers, software glitches, I think I made a mistake. I need to get work done and fixing MSI issues is taking too long, now. Thank you.
Lenovo is a very reliable brand with great support. They work mostly with businesses but extend the same support to regular consumers.
Their legion line of PC’s are great if you need graphics capabilities.
Also talk to the sales chat / call them - tell them your student and to ask for a quote on whatever PC you want at a lower price. Usually you can get about 20% knocked off of any machine. I was able to get a $3000 laptop for around $2000 with a fantastic warranty
Thank you for the input! @@williammadisondavis
LOL, imagine complaining about MSI being chinese, which they are not, because they are taiwanese and then getting recommended Lenovo, which is an OG chinese company. 😂
Is the Corsair iCUE H170i Elite LCD XT? Or how good is it? (420mm)
I cant cool my i9 with it
I apologize for the inconvenience, but it seems there might have been a mistake with my purchase of the Arctic Freezer III ARGB 420mm cooler. Unfortunately, it appears that the package did not include the necessary screws, ARGB controllers, or thermal paste required for installation and no new contact frame from Arctic. Could you kindly assist me in resolving this issue so that I can properly install the cooler? Your help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. (I bought this cooler from Amazon (95$))
You should contact the seller.
how easy is it to swap the fans for others ?
Would you recommend this or the EK nucleus 360 (ALFIII360 or EK360 Nucleus)?
both very good, right now I'm leaning towards LF maybe coz it's newer, but I remember it being abit quieter :)
@@theTechNoticeYea, I'm leaning to the ALF as well. I just heard the leaf spring mechanism isn't great. Thank you for the help!
@@theTechNotice thats going to depend on orientation and GPU mount. You use a test bench, while it has its use, is not normal for most PCs built inside a case. Lots of issues can arise from from the latter.
Sadly it's not better for Intel platforms
I barely fit the 2 in with vertical mounting, I wonder if this is going to be worse or better...
Its worse. I have a 4090 vertically mounted, there is no way this is fitting and if it does its just barely enough that I wont feel comfortable. Imagine a leak into the GPU?
Can I use my thermalright contact frame or do I need to use this one/
Need to use this
i want to ask about 7950x3d i have qube 500 and will to put it on and i got iCUE H100i ELITE CAPELLIX, wandering is good for PC, i am interior designer using 3dsmax and cad ..
they forgot the infinity mirror, other wise great water cooler
fan thickness looks a touch more in the video
Hi, a bit off topic but is there any am5 with Thunderbolt ?
Currently I’m running gigabyte b550 vision d-p with TB3 with 5800x3d
I need TB for my universal audio interface
Cheers
Here are some X670E boards with USB 4.0 (Intel Thunderbolt, 40Gbps): ASRock X670E Taichi, Asus ROG Strix X670E-I Gaming WIFI, Asus ROG Crosshair X670E Gene, Asus ROG Crosshair X670E Hero, and Asus ROG Crosshair X670E Extreme. Not many options out there right now and really wish MSI would come out with a USB 4.0 board.
I just buy the LF3 360 non rgb
Thanks for the nice review, i'm thinking of getting this cooler, but does anyone knows it fits in my Corsair obsedian 750d?
Hello.
I am going to build a new PC.
All parts have already been purchased, except for the case.
I need a case that will fit a 420mm cooling system.
I am thinking of ordering Lian Li O11D evo rgb.
However, what you said made me doubt about the Fractal. Do you think the release date is close, is it worth the wait? I would be grateful if you could give a little hint.
Thanks!
Its worth the wait! ;)
I hope soon. Thanks!@@theTechNotice
@@3dnkdesign Did you decide? I'm contemplating the same case/rad-combo actually. Fractal is in a Swedish retailers online stream on Thursday so I hope they will reveal it then :)
@@Olofberglund Since all my parts are already purchased and waiting to be built, I have ordered a Lian Li O11D evo rgb which will arrive in 10 days. However, if Fractal comes up with a case worth waiting for, I might order it. Let's wait for the presentation :)
@@3dnkdesign Alright! That is an option ofc :P Didn't think of that. I need to get the case and SSD to be able to start but I'm still undecided on RGB or not so I haven't ordered any fans or AIO yet.
Best cooler on the market if you ask me
Try with the Rad the correct way up!
What about mora 3?
Does this cooler fit in a 011 dynamic evo RGB?
Mine 3rd gen sadly prevents from installing my gpu in vertical mode
Hi!
A have this cooler and Asus Rog Strix Z790-E II and use all-in-one (single) cable connected to motherboard CPU_Fan header.
In bios settings the pump speed shows N/A and Fan expert shows Pump speed 0
Is that correct because I dont use the individual 3-cable setup or is something wrong?
Yes that's correct.