Volkswagen ID.4 GTX SUV 2021 review - Has VW finally the X factor? / Electrifying
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Up to now there hasn't been a sporty and practical everyday electric hatchback, and certainly not an SUV, but the Volkswagen ID.4 GTX might be it.
The GTX name will be used on VW's sportiest electric vehicles, and the German carmaker hopes GTX will be to electric cars what GTI is to petrol cars - and that's affordable, practical fun.
The ID.4 is the first car to get the GTX name and gets a second motor with an extra 101bhp in the front, making it all-wheel drive. The GTX's total power output is just under 300bhp which allows it to get from 0-62mph in 6.2 seconds, and it has a slightly higher top speed of 112mph. And it gets some slightly more racy body styling.
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I tried this car and also Kia EV6 and Hyundai Ionic 5 and I think the ID.4 GTX is a more finished, complete and useful car than the two others. The level of comfort and confidence it delivers, is the amongst the very best, if not the best, in that class.
The North American version doesn't pretend to be sporty. It's just the regular ID4 with the second motor for AWD and MORE ground clearance, not less.
Still one of the best presenters out there
I doubt it. They still haven't fixed the software package and have no way to do OTA.
Excellent review by T.F Gives a comprehensive, interesting and fair review with all necessary details. T.F's best review to date.
Thanks, good honest review, I did consider VW, but eventually plumped for an AWD EV6, which I find very good handling and 0-60 in about 5 secs, so no slouch, and it definitely turns heads at the moment.
Only had it a few weeks so still learning.
The yet to be released ID5 GTX looks really good.
If VW can get better interiors and tech theyre onto a winner
Is there an ID.3 GTX coming? That seems better suited to this.
Yes, its been shown by VW (the release seemed to show the new upgraded interior too) I think its out late next year.
@@scottwills4698 OMG that sounds awezome, i loooooooove my ID3.
Maybe when Volkswagen get solid state batteries, their cars will become much lighter improving performance and range! I also hope they’re working on improving their software, I know they have invested considerably more money into electrification than any other legacy manufacturer, and they have a great start with the ID.4 and I know it will improve along the way!
Nice bit of honesty.
So you wait for a playfull hatch. And you point at this SUV...
Or is it a high Hatch? Cramped station?
It's confusing on body style descriptions.
Did you check the tyre pressures before driving the car and maybe adjust them down a little if the car was handed over with them over inflated as often media cars are, especially EV's to give Range. Testing it with 4 adults would mean more, or putting 300 kg of weight in the 'Family' sized car.
Hopefully the ID3 GTX will handle the weight in a more dynamic sporty way, more of an electric GTI hatch feeling, with it not being a SUV like the ID4.
Given the size of an ID.4, possibly a comparison with the a similar power 4x4 Tiguan would make more sense than a Golf GTI? An ID.3 with the same 4WD setup and a middling sized battery pack (to keep the weight in check) might be fun, but inevitably a lot of money for not much range…
Hoping the HondaEV makes an R model that equals the gen 1 GTI. I want little and quick and very flickable ...
I just want to know if the GTX with front driven wheels, has a larger turning circle than the ID 4 without the front motor!
It does. The turning circle for the AWD variant is about 1 meter larger in diameter than the RWD version
Volkswagen should make the ID.4 R 0-60 in 3 seconds maybe 500hp give or take! We’re still waiting for a ID.3 GTX too!
Speaking to someone at VW design; the ID face lifted models from late 2022 will have much improved interior quality and a totally new OS for the infotainment (same interface, but one that works). The head of VW R&D got let go 4 months after the ID3 was released for a reason …….
About the same price as long range model Y , but much slower . I'll be waiting for the model Y to land .
It is not the same price at all! the price difference is €14K
In the UK the GTX Max is £55k, the same as the Model Y Long Range. At least £10k too much for me....
@@bryanduncan6178 GTX is 48k - if you want to save more check out "drive the deal" I saved £7k on my ID3 Max Pro Performance.
I think the biggest improvement that could be made to EVs is weight reduction . I am sure given time this will happen. I used to have a Zoe and even with that I could really feel the weight (especially in the wet when braking and cornering felt quite a struggle). The thing I don't think most EVs need is more power (speed limit reductions everywhere in my area in recent years).
Less range, less weight, faster charging, more level 2 chargers at parking spaces, and more rapid charges around.
@@timscott3027 Wrong MORE Range through better efficiency Miles/kWh and weight reduction through removing of redundant parts with structural battery. This is the future of BEVs. Modern ICE car are heavy too, should not be difficult to make equivalent BEVs just marginally heavier than ICE.
I agree that this is where EVs are and where they're going but I can also see a future for light weight supermini a and b segment cars that don't need hundreds of miles of range. My point is that once fast chargers are everywhere range anxiety won't be a thing and most people could live with less range 100mile cars are only crap at the moment because they can't charge everywhere at 250kw chargers. If you could stop and recharge a 30 kw Battery on every street in minutes it won't matter so much.
Waiting for the RTX version
I know styling is personal but to me it just looks so dull. The Cupra is way more convincing as a sporty EV and I think has the better strategy of using the ID3 as a base. I think the IDs are probably decent if unexceptional buys lower down their range but as the price increases, there are much more interesting alternatives.
What about the Jaguar Ipace brilliant road holding fast and sporty especially with air sus and active sus. You need to drive one for comparison and cheaper than the two German (always German in your comparisons) heavyweights you mentioned.
It's £15k more expensive 'whataboutism'? In S trim, with no options, without the air suspension? I have to agree on the handling though, Jaguar nailed it first time.
About 50% more expensive than id4 in Sweden (iPace is around €100K)
@@_TrueDesire_ That's a shame but a large gap to be sure. His bit was about no EV being exciting I was making that comparison more than financial.
@@_TrueDesire_ You can look around Europe and find massive pricing differentials like this elsewhere (e.g. Portugal) . JLR seems to price on what it thinks the local market will sustain. Car brokers will supply from other EU countries.
Its a nice looker i charged next to one last year. From what i recall the range isnt great maybe 220 miles? At £60k (IIRC) thats too much money for too little range for me.
Yet another review that doesn't mention the 30-70 time. We all know that EVs are spritely away from rest. But for safe overtakes the 30-70 time is a key comparator between cars. Surely Electrifying can afford a simple Racelogic performance box or similar?
Instead of comparing it to the Porsche and Audi how does it compare with the iPace which is, apparently, an EV that drives well.
Polestar 2?
Black roofs are such a stupid idea! All that extra heat absorption, which requires the aircon to work that much harder, and the range suffers…
Adding solar cells to the roof would make far more sense.
I like it, but the price.
Excellent useful informative review. Its a pity AWD in EVs is aimed more at middle aged boy racers and performance rather than functional 4x4 traction (ie better winter handling, grip, traction, snow and ice). Not looking to tow a sheep trailer across a wet field in winter, but would like the grip and safety of 4x4 ICE. All the BEV manufacturers have chased performance marketing with their AWD dual motor models rather than functional traction. March 2018 with the 'beast from the east' snowfall most RWD BEVs would be left stranded on the road side. These extreme weather events are likely to be more frequent than less with climate change. Pit VW only do dull as ditch water dark black interiors, why not cream leather or light browns like US market. Fed up of soviet audi black upholstery in cars in Europe.
Umm Harsh weather traction with Dual Motor BEV is easy and probably just basic function of the GTX. Even a RWD single motor BEV could be excellent in snow due to the inherent nature of BEVs. The drive train is basically a ServoMechanism which can adjust torque at 150hz to respond to ground conditions. When you combine it with Dual Motor AWD BEVS are inherently on muddy / dusty dirt roads and snow. It does not requier massive amount of work to make the traction great. The only problem with most of these CUV is the Body and Overhangs Entry and Departure Angles are not designed for Off Roading thus will get damaged. Jag i-Pace & Tesla Model 3 Dual Motor are amazing Dirt Track Rally cars, just don't take it rock crawling.
The basic premise of this vehicle is fundamentally flawed - SUVs are not GTIs! Maybe Renault could put twin motors into a Zoe, then we would have something akin to the Renault 5 GT of the 80s...
VW should have made the 2dr New Beetle a EV- they would have sold a ton!
Unfortunately, the public didn't buy the New Beetle with an ICE. Buyers want SUV's, not cramped sedans.
Batteries. When we move to supercapacitors, that will be the turning point.
Good review but could you do torque in Newton Metres? Pound feet belongs to a bygone era and almost sounds ridiculous when talking about cutting edge electric cars.
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Different wheels? They are the same that my ID3 have 😂
50k I don't think the average guy will be buying this.
I find our BMW i3S is fun quite checkable. BMW could do more to the i3 awd i3 M 🌈🤣 Tesla eater😄😇
Nicer than the ID3, but spoilt by the entertainment system, which is unforgivable as that’s what we use to interact with grrrr
How come Škoda do it better and the older systems on Mk7 Golf is better D’oh !!!
And where’s the tartan seat inserts from the GTE 🧐
Without all this drama Ioniq 5 is a second quicker to 62 than vw
What’s the point ???
So you will save every at least 12 seconds on you commute, that is about 40 minutes a year.
The only point is to give motor journalists something to witter on about.
And better tech, faster charging, subjectively better looks and better warranty 👍🏻
@@_TrueDesire_ But unfortunately, the Ioniq 5 is unavailable in many areas. The ID.4 is on dealer lots now.
Hello mate
The more I think about the VW ID name, the more I think VW missed a trick by feeling shamed by their existing nameplates…
50k Phuffff...
Still a bit too tall and frumpy looking to me.
Why are you bothering posting these videos? My dealer told me these are on a 12 month lead time in the UK.
So will they post the video just when it suits you?
@@CptSpears007 totally missing the point. If the vehicle variant isn't even being made, then you must seriously question why it is being advertised.
The GTX is available from stock, there is stock available as long as you aren't fussy for colour!
@@bryanduncan6178 that's very interesting. The problem is that VW do not have a centralised stock system. My dealer told me a year.
@@CptSpears007 I'm going to apologise as I could have been misled by my dealer
The other thing that seems to be sadly lacking in the EV market are convertibles.
Buyers don't buy convertibles, makes no sense for a manufacturer to build convertibles.
@@mowcowbell respectfully as an owner of two convertibles I disagree.
@@Michaellipmanactor Unfortunately, there are not enough of you in the world to convince manufacturers to build them. They are in business to make a profit. (although General Motors may not understand that logic... lol)
Pretty slow for a dual motor electric “performance” unit… and not that efficient either.
EV6 is a generation ahead….
Im amazed how you did a video about the id4 gtx without talking once about Tesla (ok 2 sec at the end). I'm sorry VW is doing better but this id4 is so far from model Y, and you don't even need the performance to beat the gtx. An regular MYLR will be so much better ...
Its a Folkswagen
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At the end of the day it’s an SUV! If you want a Porsche, then buy a Porsche!
its full of very cheap piano black plastic
0-60 in 6.2! Yikes, that is much slower than Model Y Performance of 3.5 sec...
But $18,000 less expensive!
what a load of crap ionic 5 far superior faster, V/L, far better looking, faster charging, electric rear seats and over £5000.00 cheaper.
ID.4 with 77kWh battery gets 125kW charging as standard. Its Skoda where faster charging is optional. Pisses me right off the downer presenters have on VW electric vehicles and they cannot even get basic facts right.
Different in different markets. Where I live they’re all 125 kW.
@@903lew Seeing as they're talking UK spec cars, mine is a valid statement. What specs are in other markets is irrelevant.
3 problems as I see it, 1 it's a VW, 2 it's not that sporty and 3 it's still hideously overpriced.
Polestar is a Chinese brand with no future, Ioniq5 is too big and too ugly, EV6's interior looks too busy and too cheap and it's too big, Tesla is fine, but it's not my esthetic, Skoda looks like it was designed by a medievalist. I like ID3, Soul and Born. And maybe this, but not really.
Most likeable car presenter. The car's awful.
Car is Amazing as the Presenter.