VW ID4 GTX 300 hp AWD REVIEW - the new EV GTI (US: ID.4 Pro S)
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- This is our in-depth review of the VW ID4 GTX. We're taking a look at Exterior, Interior and the driving experience.
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00:00 VW ID4 GTX most important EV?
00:25 Competitors
00:44 Exterior design sporty GTX
02:01 Electric motor details, kWh battery, range
02:48 Suspensions
03:12 Rear and lights
04:01 Recharging
04:11 Voltswagen April fool's hoax
05:12 Interior
06:17 Sports seats
07:02 Instruments, HUD, infotainment
11:12 Seating position
12:24 Rear seating
13:21 Trunk
13:49 Driving with 0-100 km/h 0-60 mph acceleration
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00:00 VW ID4 GTX most important EV?
00:25 Competitors
00:44 Exterior design sporty GTX
02:01 Electric motor details, kWh battery, range
02:48 Suspensions
03:12 Rear and lights
04:01 Recharging
04:11 Voltswagen April fool's hoax
05:12 Interior
06:17 Sports seats
07:02 Instruments, HUD, infotainment
11:12 Seating position
12:24 Rear seating
13:21 Trunk
13:49 Driving with 0-100 km/h 0-60 mph acceleration
#VW #Volkswagen #VWID4
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danke für das ausgezeichnete review. ich habe seit dem ich 5 jahre alt war nur VW´s erlebt. jetzt 30 jahre später hätte ich so gerne einen elektro vw gekauft. ABER. das sie bei ihrer angeblichen so "zukunftsweisenden" und außergewöhnlichen neuen Elektro Plattform - nicht mal geschafft haben einen FRUNK einzubauen - ist einfach nur schmutzig.
ja und wenn man den verlgiech macht ID4 um 60k und model y um 60k ist es eh gleich klar wer hier der sieger ist. schade aber bye bye vw konzern :)
sind wohl eher die kindheitserinnerungen von den vw busen, golfs etc. der vw konzern war meistens nur darauf aus seine kunden zu melken und jedes noch so kleine feature als extra im konfigurator zu verkaufen und fett kohle dafür zu verlangen.
Very good platform, but please VW bring back turning knobs and physical buttons in the future. SAVE the BUTTONS!
yess
100% agree car manufactures have started engineering things to fix problems that don’t exist…
@@rufdymond they fix a problem called cost. One giant capacitive button is cheaper for them.
@@MuitoDaora then raise the price of the car. How much extra can it cost?
No need for buttons. We live in the digital age, buttons aren't required for the HVAC and ICE systems.
I have to say, you really have a great sense of humor. I enjoy watching your car reviews (they are the best) and I also enjoy the low key jokes you sometimes make!
hehe highly appreciated m8
Thomas is the best. No doubt.
I enjoy watching your reviews. And your honesty with a touch of humour cracks me up. Thank you from Canada
I'd love to see ID.3 GTX
You probably will. Similar to Cupra Born.
actually it already exists in concept, called the ID.X
www.motorauthority.com/news/1132318_vw-id-x-concept-teases-electric-hot-hatch
This would make me get rid of my MK7 GLI
A prototype has been made, but they won't make a production version yet
@@pokest225 Yeah just get the Curp El Born it looks way better.
As always, great review. Thank you.
What a sweet car - thank you Thomas for the full review
thanks !!
Amazing and professional review as always . You are the one i always turn to Thomas and Autogefuhl 👍👍
✌️✌️✌️
One thing i would love for you to mention in your EV reviews is how the sat nav worked on long road trips, does have a lot of chargers saved and how good is the routeplaner.
Thanks for all the great content!
thanks !! we ll try to show that when we can !
Nice glimpse into how it drives. Danke.
I enjoyed watching the Video Review ☺️. A welcome addition to the ID.4 Range
thanks Jamie!
Every review of the ID range complains about the front/rear window switches. Personally I think this is a complete non issue for the vast majority of people. I really can't recall the last time I as driver (or front passenger) used the controls in the front to drop the windows in the rear? So the switches make sense, because almost all the time I'll be wanting to control the front windows.
Still cannot believe how quiet these new Electric vehicles are. Great review. Years before we own a car like this. Ignore those that complain about piano black.
If you want an EV all you need is Autogefühl to make a fair decision.
That said: I really don't understand why people think higher topspeeds are important. Even if you live in Germany where people may drive faster on the Autobahn you will have to stop way more frequently and loose even more time charging than driving slower.
👍
Although ioniq 5 and ld3 & id 4 have batteries from SK ionvation, ioniq 5 has the silicon carbide inverter and are very efficient, on 800v. id is shit when charging in winter with small and medium battery.
@@dragospahontu still, a higher speed will drain your batteries much quicker no matter how fast you charge.
Just took it up the snowyest, icyest narlyest crooked steep scary uphill road i could find in norway... It didnt even get close to break a sweat. The car is PERFECTION!
One of the best values in electric cars.
18:12 The news be like: "Crazy journalist caught speeding on camera, thanks to Autogefühl journalist." 😂
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you are so beautifull hope we will be friends
@@-ayat1654 Thank you.
hey,how are you?
Great review as always. I really think they should just have offered this as an AWD upgrade, and the money they could have saved on developing and manufacturing extra styling parts they could have used on buttons. I feel their focus is a bit.. off. What is currently a deal breaker for me is the lack of having an available sound system upgrade, their base system is quite disappointing.
Very good review 😁🚗😃
I love ID.4 😍😍
I need to buy this beautiful car 😍👍
What’s lock to lock with the steering wheel? Is it still 3.5 like the rwd model of did they tighten it up since the GTX is supposed to be sportier. The GTI is like 2.1.
Thomas, please review also the Audi q4 etron 50 sportsback.
Drop the piano black, more interior colors and, buttons!. Then it would be perfect.
Great vid, as ever, but I really prefer the interior and the exterior styling of the Skoda Enyaq
What is your opinion on this VW AWD model for towing a small trailer/camper? I have yet to see a video on this exact model towing something . Would be interesting to see how it would handle.
Bravo, Thomas!!
Give me some (redundant) knobs, VW!!
Great point about VoltsWagen. Mamma mia, they blew that opportunity 😖
great to read from you!
Yes they could have taken the opportunity to give their EV branch the name Voltswagen just to make it clear that this is a transition but that it still keeps VW quality ;)
Piano black has to be covered with paint protection film or any type of vinyl wrap, unless you are someone who does not care about a clean interior. The piano black shows fingerprints, dust and schmootz. It gets all scratched up just from trying to keep it clean.
aye
Love that interior.
creap interior all cheap black plastic
Great review and also great tune selection again 👌👍🎶 #trance
way to go :)
In 'B' mode, does the regenerative braking act through both the front and rear motors, or just the rear one? Thanks.
I enjoyed the review! You mentioned how the AWD works when accelerating from a stop. Is there an option to have FULL TIME AWD? snow, towing, etc?
It happens automatically if it detects slipping, no reason to run the motor when it's not doing anything but adding power consumption.
There is a "traction" mode available in the driving mode menu, which I *believe* puts the car in full 4x4 traction, but I'm not certain.
I do not know in what world piano black is considered classy and durable. It is a nightmare that will be remembered in car history XD
This car goes away like Schmitz Cat 🚗💨💨💨💨
thanks, Thomas ✌😎
=)
Tried the ID4 GTX this week. I was very impressed, and I think I will gor either that or the Hyundai Ionic 5. Both cars were amazing to drive.
I’m also trying to decide between these 2 cars. I’m very jealous that you got to try the GTX! None of the dealers in the UK have one to try.
@@th3w4nted i was only allowed to drive them for 30 minutes because of the interest for both models. Will have to take them for a spin again before deciding
@@TheArtistFormerlyKnownAsKnut Ah okay. It would be interesting to hear what you end up choosing. I think it’ll be the GTX for me because the IONIQ’s boot is a bit too impractical due to the sloping rear window.
@@th3w4nted I’m leaning towards the gtx too, even though the Ionic 5 was amazing to drive
@@TheArtistFormerlyKnownAsKnut What’s making you lean towards the GTX?
Really quick!!
Great review!! My Question : is the USA version AWD have the same battery pack and performance as the GTX you reviewed. Thanks
Thanks!! Yes
A friend of mine who works in marketing said that more and more companies are announcing their April Fools "jokes" the week before April Fools to make sure they get noticed because so many people make April Fools announcements now.
ESP can be turned off or in sport?
This needs to come to USA!!!
Thomas, had your test modell "doppelverglasung"?
I love "Voltswagen." Super adorable. Beautiful review. Thank you for all the beautiful views, especially of those fields. 🙂
glad u enjoyed =)
GTI? For +80´s with those times?
They said you have 2 options of sound... the one you have tested comes with a 12-inches display and a Hifi audio sounssystem... it is an optional... quite expensive.
Once again, a great review. I am on the fence between buying an ID4 or an Audi Q4, I am patiently waiting for the US release so I can make a decision. Based on what I have seen in reviews, the Audi might win out.
Thanks 😊 We have planned a direct comparison id4 vs q4 for later this year
@@autogefuehl Are you still planning? I'd like to make a decision between ID 4 GTX and Q4 e-tron quattro myself as well, and it's a tough choice. The older "big e-tron" has also come down in price as second-hand closely matching the price of these, adding another difficulty of making up my mind :D
can't wait for the rtx to come out
Any thoughts about how this AWD only during acceleration and otherwise RWD will handle in the snow?
AWD only helps when accelerating in snow anyway, so it doesn't matter.
Will there be a "normal" id4 with AWD or just the gtx model?
depends on the market
Thank you 😊
Although ioniq 5 and ld3 & id 4 have batteries from SK ionvation, ioniq 5 has the silicon carbide inverter and are very efficient, on 800v. id is shit when charging in winter with small and medium battery.
Drum braking system??
how is the turning circle on this car vs id4 ?
Better
How does the AWD perform under adverse weather condition, mud or snow…I’ve always like manual shifting for greater control, Nice review !
Cheers! We ll do a snow/ice test in a couple of months!
@@autogefuehl I will be looking forward to that. Perhaps you could add in taking the car to the mountains to see how it is ski country and how much the range decreases in addition to the snow performance. I'm beginning to consider an EV. My touchstone is at least 400km/250 miles of real world winter range in mountainous terrain to get from where I live to some of the better skiing in this region with, I would hope, some range cushion. Thank you for your reviews. They are among the best if not the best .... objective, touches of humor, and none of the drama and hysterics that plague some reviewers (one of whom is annoying to me that it motivated me to learn how to block the guy as a suggested view by TH-cam). And of course there is the change of scenery from what you see in domestic reviews. I love it.
Are you sure DCC isnt't for Dynamic Capacitive Curse? You know now with snappier interface and all...
Good trim for this car
Wow! How does Canada/ N. America not have this?? The ID4 AWD recently was released.
They dont call the AWD version in Northern America GTX… not sure why
I just found out that mister Thomas is equipped with very familiar name Majchrzak :-) Pozdrowienia! But that is not what I wanted to talk about. GTX will be updated for 2023. Like less piano black and no blue accents anymore. Maybe it is an idea to present a short video covering those updates?
Yes indeed 😎 changes are not that drastic, but i ll check if we can do smth
How do you shift into neutral?
You don't need to
I am very impressed with the three brands that share this platform, but I am in the USA where people rarely buy normal sized cars, so it's only the ID.4 and the Audi equivalent for us.
Audi q7 platform, created by Audi, is used by the Volkswagen touareg, Porsche Cayenne, Lamborghini Urus and bentley bentayga 🙂
Wish that VW would use the SEAT and SKODA designs, they are so much nicer.. It used to be that VW had the better look, but like with GM the styling being created at Wolfsburg is lack luster, dull, and non inspiring compared to the sister brands. Dear VWAG, bitte senden sie uns SEAT oder SKODA nach Amerika. Vielen Dank.
@@jh5kl Touareg
@@Bikerbug2020 man Škoda and Seat are poor quality. Why no Toyota?
@@dragospahontu How are they poor quality? Skoda uses cheaper materials and engineers their cars for a low price point, but they don't skimp on practicality details.
I believe the Voltswagen prank was intended to be for April 1st but then someone leaked it a couple days early. That’s my understanding but I could be wrong.
could be
it sucks we won't get the gtx in the US, although we will at least get the AWD without the sporty touches. I don't think we have access to the heads-up display and other things though which is horrible!
I love all your reviews!! What you think about the vw`s design? i think they are boring
Thanks 🙏 they should go more rectangular retro like Golf 1
@@autogefuehl sure! And i think that they should make a design more refined, more spectacular. I think the id4 doesnt Say anything, it's too much boring.
Towing??? How the support and how range is affected???
did you watch full length?
when are you going to test drive far superior more environmentel ionic 5
its not more environmental and also not far superior
@@jh5kl yes it is check the details using more recelyable materials like paper, leaves, plant based paint etc also far superior and better looking faster 0-60 in 4.9secs see asian petrolhead, faster charging 10-80 p in 18 mins, V/L better wheel trims, better dash board, not loads of piano black ugly jelly mould shape.
I don't even remember when it was the last time I needed to lower my rear windows. Probably never done it on purpose. Completely a non-issue.
We have a dog and often lower or raise the windows in the back for her. That said, we have an ID3 and I've never found it too complicated to open the rear windows. So for me a non-issue too.
Looking forward to seeing the AWD model in North American VW dealerships. VW must be serious about this vehicle, as it has been shipping plenty of Pro and Pro S RWD models to dealerships in most US states, not just California. VW is offering 3 years of free DC fast charging on the Electrify America network, which it is continuing to expand. Hopefully, the AWD model will be available with 19" wheels for a bit more ride comfort.
Look at the VW's site. AWD is the $3700 option to the Pro S. But then the car costs similar money as MY LR, so it is bad choice.
@@AndrewSienx In the US, I can get a $7500 Federal Tax Credit on the ID.4. Tesla has used up their credits. A MY LR costs $53K USD, I can get a fully loaded ID.4 for $40K USD (after the credit). A $13K difference is huge.
Wow !!!
does it still have drum brakes?
does it have drum brakes again? would rather be the question :) and yes, as explained in the video!
Less parasitic drag with drum brakes. 80% of braking is done with the front.
@@99SVTBolt drum brakes are better than discs
@@dragospahontu I know. That’s why I said what I said. 🤣
cars don t need more than 2 buttons for the windows, that rear button function for the rear windows is how all cars should be, most people rarely use the other 2 buttons
Agreed
@@7spower998 man buttons are absolutely necessary! This thing is so unintuitive!
@@dragospahontu Well, yes OFC for old and fidgety people. Y, for OGV, but not for NGV and EVs. Move on!!!
@@7spower998 but this is not like Tesla which is actually intuitive. The infotainment system is laggy and poor quality compared to last gen.
So in EU the ID.4 is counted as midsize SUV? In US it's compact size.
Everything is bigger in Texas
Designwise sporty like the Sportsvan, sry but I'm not convinced.
The Cupra EV looked sportier and much better, but is even smaller than the ID4.
Only complaint about this and for the whole iD.4 line up is the door handles should be flush like Tesla. Would look so much better but not a deal breaker in the slightest
That could be a failure point, especially in winter.
It doesn’t look like they’re offering a heat pump option in the U.S.
The front end of this car is extremely good looking
Is this a graphics card
Haha yes. best comment. i also thought they were naming graphic cards
This is cheaper than a graphics card
Cheaper than an Nvidia graphics card
1960s - Plymouth Belvedere GTX
1980s - Mazda Familia GTX
2000s - Nvidia GeForce GTX.
Improve the range first before speed
I like it
Ya, I am not a fan of the capacitive touch buttons everywhere. I don't understand why they would make 2 windows buttons with a capacitive touch button to switch from front to rear windows (3 buttons) to replace 4 buttons (one for each window). I'd much rather they took a more traditional approach with physical buttons. Something similar or based off the interior off of the Tiguan/Taos. I want physical volume and climate control that give be positive physical feedback without having to look at the buttons.
Thomas: the chassis is good
Maniobra de esquiva: rolls over😅
Is there realy any difference between the ID4 and the Q4?
Interior of the q4 is sooo much better.
Realy not. It's exactly the same.
see the review, I have a lot of comparisons in it
@@avenue5880 Please see Teslabjorn's video. It looks like luxury, but is made of cheap plastik as in normal ID4. This one actually looks like better one.
@@AndrewSienx but just the looks of the cockpit interior it's just better
it is fun to call something electric from VW with 300hp as a GTI, i get it, that it seems like a lot, but looking at the competition.. MACH-E, Tesla, Ionic 5, the new Kia EV6 where it is closer to 500hp and cheaper, it seems to be a bit "out of time"
This is because VW is too invested in making polluting ICE engines and doesn't want to sell its customers EVs. After diesel Gate who can buy a VW with a clear conscience? My father in law worked for VW for 20 years as an electrical engineer and said the cheat system was widely known about and through all major car manufacturers. They are little better than cigarette manufacturers.
When pepople uncritically falls on their behind of the marketing-bs from "their" VW. Low equipped compared to even their own Skoda pendant & almost any other traditional car manufacturer beats it in all aspects...Tesla Y is rumored to have drive around it in circles while ID.4 did max performance 0-100´s :-D :-D
the ev6 with same accessories will cost 10.000 $ more than the id4 gtx in Sweden
@@andrescarmona6993 ionic 5 is cheaper than ugly ID4 GTX
@@seanholdom9739 Hyundai is better in general
So unfortunate that we're not getting the GTX here in the US.
It is coming but without the GTX badge
@@TheRTPatriot I hope you are right. I keep reading conflicting news on this. I've read the US AWD will be a GTX w/o the badge but I've also read that it's just an AWD - no sporty features.
Great review!
VW needs to know that the interior controls here are unacceptable.
Thanks 🙏
Mustang Mach-E is boring, just drove it on Saturday… noisy and cramped feeling. The ID.4 is much nicer except for the center display, the Ford has it beat.
I want this with panoramic roof x
12:13
Thomas, can you please tell the manufacturers, that NO ONE likes the damn piano black trim. It reflects, shows every speck of dust, shows fingerprints like an FBI agents dream and scratches when you try to clean it. It’s TERRIBLE.
Yes exactly
FYI, IONIQ 5 vs TESLA MODEL Y... :
Tesla great job, max speed, range especially leveraging its shape and weight. Still prefer, being in Europe, comfort. 99% of my trips are within 200kms one way. With the Hyundai IONIQ 5, I do look forward to ventilated seats, Android Auto, the roomy and comfortable interior, and HUD. Also like reclining seats with foot rest and reclining console for arms rest, all electronic aids especially against collisions, automated parking (Executive version), blind spot cams on dashboard when turning, V2L, sun shades integrated in back doors, electric sunroof shade, wide space available inside with good visibility through the back window etc. Also 5 year car warranty illimited kms (Max 80 000 for Tesla... Reliability issues?), and 8 year battery warranty (same as Tesla).
Comment by Park Shawn translating from Korean to English this video :
th-cam.com/video/rWBAJu_S4lk/w-d-xo.html
Ionic 5 LR and Model Y LR both have similar spec including weight, battery sizes. Details can be found on google. Here are some highlights from the conclusion they brought up at the end of the video. 1. Both car's AVG speed were about 100KM/h (Highway drive) 2. Both car's A/C and other convenience functions(like Highway drive assistance for Ionic 5, Auto Pilot for Model Y and etc.) were always on during the test. 3. 4 drivers drove about 100km per person and checked the remaining battery at designated location. 4. Both car have shown slightly poor battery performance than usual because of the weather condition (rain) 5. By just looking at the specification, Model Y can drive 141km more than Ionic 5. However the actual drive test have shown that the difference were only about 60~70km. This experiment have shown that IONIC 5's driving range is little longer than what Hyundai advertised. 6. They have concluded that both Ionic 5 and Model Y can drive from Seoul to Busan. The distance between those two cities are about 350km. Hope this helps.
What about the OG gen 1 egolf guys we are still waiting on battery upgrade options. You cant forget about the people who believed in you from the beginning to be able to have the iD series. The nissan leaf offers battery upgrade options.
OFFER battery upgrade options so people aren’t scared of having old tech when new better tech is there.
Warranties are about to start to expire VW needs to step it up asap they have had plenty of time to get us a upgrade by now. Expecially after that keisel guy did the 55 kw way way back and he is third party 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
Let’s go!
10:40 Yeah I think it's kind of embarassing that the Enyaq according to everything I've seen in reviews is the much more premium and well refined product compared to the ID.4... Skoda's not supposed to be on top of VW, is it?
Maybe to gain new customers!? It's one conglomerate after all.
formerly not no
@@autogefuehl but effectively Skoda is the smartest choice
The Skoda is also the Least sporty of the siblings.
He should research how only a percentage of regen happens by releasing the pedal. The majority of regen which is comparable to other evs happens when you first hit the brake pedal. Then if you need more brake, the brakes activate.
I did say that they dont follow one pedal philosophy
Remember when all the gang bangers drove round on 21 inch rims😂
Would you choose this over the Tesla model 3?
XC40 is also a competitor
Yes and Xc40 p8 is way better car, faster better quality overall! Vw nowadays has plastiky interior and look like a toy from Lego. Also you can spot the paintwork fron inside the car around the windows, which is very poor finishing for this price tag. Also xc40 P8 infotaiment is based and running on google androind with a superb voice comand.
@@MrMarcob73 plastic are a huge part of even the most expensive tablets, laptops, phone, tv s and even aviation. plastic has been part of a huge percentage of components in cars for ages. stop parroting stupid puns
4:08 No frunk. No nose-heavy extra weight ahead of the front axle and motor makes it a RWD-like neutral handling vehicle.
Why doesn't it have a trunk?
@@dragospahontu Is in the back.
@@7spower998 Tesla has a frunk?
@@dragospahontu All Tesla have frunks. The ID.4 doesn't, but a trunk in the back
@@7spower998 yes but it should have a frunk
ID4 is a great looking EV, and I could only test drive the RWD base version. Very nice vehicle, but I could not get enough leg room and I am 6' tall. Also, the center "console" feels like junk. There should be a wide center arm rest instead of the hard plastic, skinny uncomfortable arm rests. This will be extremely popular in the USA but the non-Tesla charging situation is woeful.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
With EV's accelerating so quickly these days, the real meaningful number is 0-60-0mph, or 0-100-0kph.
Q4 etron
🤩🤩🤩
Love the video as always.
Really nice looking car but sadly another ugly front dashboard/infotainment cockpit.
And give me REAL buttons!
thanks Tony !
Will be quicker and more reliable than a petrol GTI too.
There's no electric GTi. This is an SUV.
Lol definitely not, these cars weigh over 2 tons.
torsung81 still quicker than GTI.......
@@FurkanCemTurfanda i think this is the car that failed the moose test...
@@alexnutcasio936 it's faster on the Nurburgring?
0-100 time?
Fast
slow