NEW VW ID. 2 REVEALED! - full details on MG4-beater | What Car?
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The Volkswagen ID.2 has been revealed and looks set to be even cheaper than the MG4 when it goes on sale. Watch to find out everything you need to know.
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Video chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:34 1. Background
1:26 2. What is the ID. 2?
1:51 3. Design
2:33 4. Interior and tech
3:40 5. Practicality
5:03 6. Battery, range and performance
6:13 7. Pricing
6:36 8. Rivals
7:11 9. The bad news
7:40 10. What’s next? - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
ID.2 or MG4 - which would you have?? 👇
ID2
The MG 4 is a larger vehicle and it is similar in dimensions to the ID. 3, which is far more expensive, so I'd go with the MG 4.
VW
ID. Buzz but as a smaller, cool mini MPV
A Citroën C3 Picasso basically...
MG4 the ID2 will not be here for two years, and it will cost a lot more than everyone predicting. It will be starting at £32,000 if you want wheels, paint , etc It will be nearer £40k.
This looks very promising. Much better than the other ID models for me. If they pull this off this could be their actual game changer.
And it will have only taken them 10 years since the Dieselgate 🙄
It won't be cheap in the UK. VW wouldn't allow it. The Ora cat was supposed to be around £25k and then BMW got involved and it's now £32k+.
Totally agree this could be a game changer if: 1) the infotainment gubbins that haunt the other ID models has be successfully addressed 2) the price is below £20k without having to buy extras which would normally be reasonably expected 3) it goes into production without delay
22k never happen...all this is just a fantasy...vw can't do electric vehicles.. their ev range at the moment are a total embarrassment..
Never happen at that price. No chance.
I would wager my Mortgage that when this comes to Market in UK, it will be more expensive than the MG4.
It’ll be same price as I.D.3 by the time it comes out which will be way overpriced
Same here in the Volkswagen homeland.... The pricing of Volkswagens is pretty much shameless. But I think German manufacturers have to learn it the hard way. The Chinese manufacturers are able to produce almost equal quality for a much more affordable price. And that makes the MG4 the better ID.2.
@@jochenloscher2308 yes exactly. The Chinese cars like the MG4 are the cars to buy. German cars have become a rip off
@@jochenloscher2308 doubt Chinese cars are as good as the German product. The Chinese also have lower environmental standards and poor worker pay and conditions. Chinese have lower costs for a reason.
@@almac9203 Fair enough, but technologically they have caught up to the Germans for sure. Amongst German car brands there’s a certain ignorance and arrogance towards EVs which makes them run laps behind. And at least I think: if you are in the market for a new EV, every buck you are able to save counts if you get a comparable (or maybe better) car for your buck. But I agree with you: Environmental, political and social issues are a big problem in China.
Let's hope they follow through with this because it's exactly what I'm looking for.
This car has restored my faith in VW. I was going to update my Golf 7 to the 8 but was appalled by the lack of physical controls for climate and volume. The ID3 did not appeal either, because it looks nothing like a VW inside or out. But this new ID2 is a return to form. It has the classic aesthetic feel of a Polo, and the tech of a 21st century car. It’s great to see VW back on track.
Dream on. VW are dead, they just don’t know it yet. Meanwhile will keep pick pocketing customers and showing fantasy products to try to stall the inevitable closure of company as it was historically.
Same thoughts
I agree. However, it's a shame that this car will be on market not before 2026. By then other brands will sell better and cheaper cars. This concept is great, but it already lost its momentum.
@@frankrault3190
Great things don't happen overnight... it took years for the Golf to make it to market but look at how many units that thing sold. 30,000,000 plus?
@@JoeBloggs-ev2ui Well,
The Golf 1 was introduced on the IAA in May 1974, and sales began in autumn 1974.
So by the end of 1974 people were still flabbergasted by the fresh appearance of this new car. From first introduction up to first sales didn't last longer than only 6 months. Which pretty much seems like "overnight", to the potential buyers back then.
A very good marketing strategy it was.
I'm sorry that people have to wait for the possible ID2 All for 3 bloody years.
I take it you understand the difference between the Golf story and the ID2 introduction.
VW sales division totally lost track.
Less than £22,000? I’ll believe it when I see it! VW have got to go a long way before I’ll part with my cash as by the time they release the ID2All there will be better and cheaper vehicles on the market come 2026. VW claim 280 miles an a full charge which will most likely be 200 miles.
For most buying such a small car 200 miles will be more than enough. And by 2026 the charging infrastructure has hopefully improved substantially. If you take a longer trip of 300-500 km 2-3 times a year and need to top up once or twice along the way, is it really a problem worth fuzzing about?
@@SweBeach2023I’ll still stick with getting 400-500 miles out of my 2016 Polo though!!
@@reececollison5101 The range of your petrol/diesel car is irrelevant. I don't think you've once worried about how much further you can get on your tank of fuel. Unless you're in the middle of the desert, it's a non-issue. The only reason it matters for EVs is if you don't have a means of charging the car at home, overnight. And, if you frequently travel long distances (more than your battery allows for), meaning you will be reliant on public charging infrastructure. Which means, long wait times at crowded service stations while your car charges up. If you typically drive under 200 miles per day, and can charge at home, the ID.2 will be more than adequate for many people. Same goes for pretty much every EV on the market today. Even a lot of PHEV's can get by on pure-electric range with a typical, UK commute.
@@Tresla um yes it is. I frequently drive to Manchester to see my friends at uni, to Devon on holidays etc, and to Southampton to go on cruises. It’s definitely not all that often, but the point is my car can handle 100% of journeys I need it to do. What’s the point of trading it in for a car that’s more expensive to buy that can only handle 95% of the journeys I need to make?
I would still keep my modern diesel with consumption of 6 l and 220 hp and top speed of 245 km/h
I like it. ID3 is too odd looking for me. ID2 would suit my needs perfectly and a great price. If this was out 2 years ago I would have gone with this instead of the EQA.
Probably the best looking of the IDs (except the Buzz), it has much more character than the bland ID3/4/5. It surely has potential to take raise the game, especially if they’ve fixed the interior and software glitches. Early ID buyers may wish they’d waited!
I would buy the ID.2 tomorrow if VW released it looking like that! It's the EV I'v been waiting for. Especially if it comes with a detachable trailer hitch.
The key point is "this comes in 38kwh and 56kwh" you can bet the price is for the 38kwh version and all other performance numbers are for the 56kwh..
What’s interesting is, when manufacturers talk about price they usually mean the lowest spec models, when they talk about specs, they usually mean the top models.
Looks like a winner to me, just what I am waiting for !!
I have a polestar 2 long range, I have come to realise range is generally not that important if you don’t have long commutes. I’m actually getting more interested in these shorter ranged but cheaper cars. I would today much rather have quicker charge and smaller battery.
Why is everyone so whiny about the touch controls? It gets a little bit to get used to but once I got used to it, I loved it. I have an Id.4
0:42 the ID3 was the start? How about the Up and the slightly unknown car, the GOLF? Both, eUp and eGolf are great cars, and there are many of them still beloved and wizzing around Europe. Even the batteries (today on the smaller side) were quite adequate when new, other brands had much smaller ones…
Gotta see it first. The ID3 was promised to be an EV for the people, very affordable. Look how that turned out 😅
A good looking VW EV at last. As Ford seems to be planning on exiting the mass market, VW are stepping up to be people's cars in the EV era. I did like the glimpse of an original Polo style dials dashboard graphics, a clever VW retro touch. Fingers crossed the production car closely matches this concept model, which certainly looks ready to go...
I read somewhere that this is a joint venture like the commercial joint venture with Ford and will be the new fiesta
Ford is launching 7 new ev cars in the next 18 months , first launched today 23 March, so they are not departing and have always been been more reasonable than illegal Vw cars whilst being best drivers cars in each class.
Whoah, hang on, I have a good looking VW EV, the e-Golf. Granted it could defo do with a bigger battery, but it does me for my 90 mile commute once per week...
Electric cars …a load of bollocks…..petrol and diesel…..who gives a sh1t about the environment and emissions….need range, practicality and reliability……everything will go wrong with these cars…..guarantee it.
The id2 is VW back on form. Looks great.
I love my id.3 and have absolutely no complaints about it - BUT I love this car. Range, price, boot space and interior design are spot on. I much prefer the look of the id.3. This looks a little old fashioned in comparison - externally. VW need to move very quickly to get this to market or pretty soon or it’ll be outclassed before it even launches. Things move very fast in electric car world!
Buttons for the heating system and a rotary dial to control the screen function is best design decision.
Looks a whole world of improvement from previous efforts. Certainly inetrior and the slick user interface.
The centre infotainment control wheel I think lifted from BMW - but no issues there.
Pricing? There is big gap in difference in 'anticipating' and actual pricing in VW-land. I recall the ID Buzz being 'targeted' in the high £30'sk - or less than 40k. What is it now? Don't think you get any change - if any - from £60K . I 'anticpate ' this not less than £28k to 30k in reality. Which would make it no more than marginally of interest. Let's see .
This is what i wanted from the id line from the beginning. I really like the existing models of VW and i wish they would have stuck with those and made electric version like this. It’s basically an electric polo, and as a polo owner i couldn’t be more pleased.
Agrred, I just wanted their existing cars but in electric format, this looks like it.
Love the classic dash cluster, mk1/mk2 golf look.
This is a very good looking car. My worry though is that what is shown would end up being the top-spec model which would probably add another £4k - £8k
Yes, it would be good to show the range rating of the cheaper/smaller battery one.
I really like this car! I only wish the rear end was a bit more exciting. But other than that, I have to say that this looks very promising!
If built and priced with the larger battery at £27'000 with the " first edition " all bells and whistles at £30'000 it will be a massive hit in the uk
All the U.S. auto makers are discontinuing cars like this. We don’t even get the ID.3. I would buy the ID.2 so fast, but it’s probably not coming here. It’s times like this that really makes me wish I lived in Europe😭
Where did the info come from that the battery is under the bonnet, VW shows the battery under the floor in the press pack?
This could be a game changer. I was not at all a ID fan, provided this has a decent range, I would be very interested
This is exactly what I have been waiting for! As long as my Golf lasts long enough to get one
Love the selectable retro instruments❤.
Bet you VW will find a way for this car to cost more than an equivalent spec MG. It's probably at least a year or two out from launch in any event. What I'd be most interested to know if they use a sodium ion battery in it.
This looks like an exciting step up for VW. You report that it was designed in six weeks, and is based on a shortened version of an existing car. I don't know anything of the process of getting a car into production, but three years seems an awfully long time to an outsider. I wonder how long the Chinese would take?
What about the Renault 5 electric? That is supposed to be priced around €20,000 & will be probably the same size & it looks really nice.
The smaller E-Up is £23k new. We have one and an MG4 so genuinely interested by this. If this larger, longer range, more powerful Polo sized ID2 is launched at £22k, I’ll eat my hat. Does no one remember the pre launch pricing suggestions for the ID3, Model 3 and others?!
lol or %'
Sounds great, but there is no way this will be price anywhere near £22k. I’m guessing £30k for the smaller batter and £35k for the bigger battery ( the ID3 is basically £40k now, so they won’t make the ID2 too cheap otherwise they would never sell ID3 or ID4 )
I also think that this will cost above 30k if you choose all options...but the ID3 is easily close to 60k with full options. Means it would be still much cheaper than ID3, which starts at 42k € at the moment...12k difference is a lot in this price range
I love the ID. 2. Much more VW. A pair of round headlamps and it’d be even better!
I especially like the Beetle-style or 80s-style instrument display options. I mean why have a screen if you can’t play around with it and have a bit of fun?
A very odd thing is the choice of a 60/40 split rear bench with the 60 side behind the folding front passenger seat. Would it be more versatile to have the very long load lefty that this offers and still keep seating for 3 rather than 2? Seems odd to me…
What is the name of the song that is used on the background? Can someone help?
Love to see this in Canada, bring us the small cars!!!
Let's hope the quality is improved. Some VW cars seem to have lost that 'quality' feel. My VW Golf MK6 was the last car I had with a good build all round.
Love ID.2All…but, where’s the air vents? The dash is beautiful, but something is missing…Hope to be the return of VW!
ID.1 sounds more appealing to me! That's just my personal circumstances though, this seems like a decent car.
Looking at at first glance the ID 2 wins hands down but in the video it looks like it’s the top of the range version from VW . Wondering what the specs are on the base model and no doubt have the smaller battery pack which I think will put a lot of people off . All being said it’s a very big step in the right direction for VW
Definitely. I'm doubtful that any car is going to be soft touch fabric and velour at that base price. Expect much of it to be replaced by scratchy plastic. Probably have to drop a lot more money for some stupidly priced executive long range model to see any of that..
When you add all the features on this concept, front and rear LEDs, the big wheels, on board features etc it will be more like 32k
Definitely good looking. The ID3 never did it for me but this is much better 👍
This definitely looks better than VW’s other EV’s. We’ll see how much makes it to the production model, but I wouldn’t complain if it looked like this.
As a Golf fanboy this makes me happy
I doubt the basic car will have the same specs as the car shown in the video. The infotainment screen is massive!
ID2 looks better than the other ID models. A must nicer looking car than quite a lot else!!
I really hope VW brings something like this to the States. I know wishing for a Polo sized hatchback is wishful thinking but I’d be first in line to get an ID2X GTI or something like that to replace my Mk7.5 GTI.
Looks good. A fine replacement for the discontinued Polo. Still no idea where I would charge it though!
It will cost nearer £30k if/when it is actually for sale in the UK...
"The ID.3 was a very promising start for the brand". e-Golf and e-Up: "What are we to you, mashed potatoes?" Our 2016 e-Golf is right as rain.
But the ID2 isn’t fully kitted out at that price. The MG4 is. Many things you need for the VW you need to pay for optionals.
can't wait for it to hit the roads. What a beautiful car
I said before the ID3 wouldn’t replicate the Golf sales. I take that back now this came out. Golf 2.0
Love how the seats fold down
SO, if it is slightly larger than modern Polo but smaller than Golf, it is then larger than Mk4, maybe even Mk5 Golf. New Polo is almost exactly same size that Mk4 Golf was.
This size makes it perfect for me. Also, it looks like a ... Polo or Golf. And me personally, i have had all of the models until Mk8 (that i sold quickly, i specially liked Mk7.5 GTE).
Interesting that VW plans to place the battery pack under the bonnet...
A small petrol engine weighs approx 100-120kg.
Roughly speaking, 10kWh of lithium ion batteries weighs 100kg, so even the smallest 38kWh battery VW plans to put in this iD.2All would likely weigh around 350-400kg.
Oh my goodness, the understeer during cornering will be MAHOOSIVE...!! 😵
Understeer, and frontal impact.
i cant find anywhere VW says the battery is under the bonnet, this is the only video I've seen to say that.
This is wrong...the batteries are in the floor, like for any MEB car...it has a front motor, which is unusual for MEB, which has normally a rear motor in ID3/4/5 and now ID7.
Love the looks of this car and the price. If it makes it to production and at this price it’s a winner.
But of course it won't.
Nice changes, I like both, ID2 and ID3, alas neither are available in USA, thus iD.4. SW 3.1 is pretty solid thus far. Kudos on design cues on boot space. The iD.2 makes sense, and will fill the 20K to 30K market share. Finally.
Too bad we'll never get this cool car in the US
looks absolutely amazing.... but im affraid how a toned down serial production version will look like... smaller wheels, more basic and bare interior with "naked" plastic trims, there is almost no naked plastic trim in the concept = really cozy looking cabin, absolutely love it, also no gloss black trim, at least some physical HVAC for temperature....
So much more craveable than the ID3, but would be happy to have either in the US.
No chance that car in the video comes out cheaper than an MG4...maybe some sort of budget version of it.
The ID2 looks great. Bring it ta Canada now!
I absolutely guarantee it will NOT cost less than £22k as a VW Polo petrol starts at £20k
It will have ridiculous low mileage between charges
This looks great, should have been the 'new golf' that the I.D 3 was touted as.
Could this car be using the Quantumscape solid state battery? VW is a big investor in QS.
For sure not...most likely cheaper LFP, since you will never achieve this price with latest technology. Perhaps you will see the Solid State in 2028, when they exchange the MEB+ with the SSP...and more likely in expensive cars from Audi and Porsche.
ID3 leaser here, i dont quite understand the hate on it tbh
This is as usual...people complain without even having sit in the car or driven it...
i'd say 29990 for a base model. The one on the video will be about 35. This is VW we're talking about, they haven't made an actually affordable car since the original HItlerwagen, and even that wasn't cheep for the time
Looks like an old Seat Ibiza from the back.
Love the interior especially the wheel and retro future touches 10/10 well done now keep up on the price 🎉😊🎉
This is actually a SUPER step forward for VW
Thank you for this amazing video and details
id2 looks like polo class car, while I would say that mg4 is class above. So it has to be cheaper, but will it be enough? If its small diff, pp might still go for mg4.
This looks so much better than the MG.
Volkswagen, PLEASE bring the production ID.2 to the USA!
This is the right way. Although I 'd rather see the electric Scirocco than the Polo. How about the Citroen OLI?
İt looks really good, especially back, reminds me of ionique 5, as well as interior. Hope they deliver
Would buy it in a minute, but their not going to bring it to the USA.
If they did, they probably couldn’t build enough to meet the demand.
I just hope legacy automakers just close up, they seem so behind in actually releasing a compelling ev right now.
I like that we finally get a decent sized boot and that it seems big enough for a family and that at a decent price. Maybe Volkswagen will be true to its name once again.
Sorry, but I don't believe the price will stay the same at £22k when it is actually on sale
Every acceptable version will cost double the price. You should know by now. This car will never undercut any competitor with similar setup. Btw the seats look thin and uncomfortable af.
Not gonna see it in the USA, but would get this when i can't run my Leaf any more.
I would want the bigger battery option, what’s the tech on board as the MG4 Trophy has nearly everything chucked at it. I think it will not be £22k and nearer £25k for the small battery and nearer £30k for the larger battery. We will see
Good on VW. We need a proper hatch that looks like a car and not a bubbled-up vehicle
What is the point of this comparison when you can buy one today at a known price and specs, whereas the other is a concept car that MAY be available in a couple of years but in what spec and at what price ?
2026? How can it take that long to productionise this? I thought these shared skateboard platforms were meant to significantly shorten time to production?
Can’t wait for the ID 1 (based on the Up!?). At least I’d be able to fit one on my front garden to charge it up without dragging cables across the pavement.
Didn’t mention all the other rivals have bigger battery 😒. Please get your number right.
I do wish they would stop the ID tag. Call this thedt polo and reinvent a new id3 as the new electric golf.
Looks good but with motors and batteries at the front, I wonder how it will ride / handle. Sounds crazy nose heavy.
Only motor is at the front...batteries are in the bottom as usual for MEB.
Def would get the ID2 if it's polo sized
Heads rolled when the ID line was launched. It was such a departure from typical VW styling and quality and thankfully, backfired. The last CEO was obsessed with chasing Tesla and woke advertising and changing the VW brand identity, when no one asked for it at all. I’m glad they saw sense. So much MK1 and MK4 golf in this design. Interior looks a work or art, and they’ve covered otherwise hard scratchy plastic in micro fibre to add to the element of quality.
Id2 looks better inside and out.
Let's wait shall we before the auto industry announces it car of the decade and bestow's every single award available to it. It's just a car, and based on VW's track record, there will be compromises. This is very clearly designed as a city car too, which imposes limitations. I'd also be pretty shocked if the production version starts at under £25k - unlikely, but VW's PR has generated the necessary headlines.
I wonder if offering less power isn’t saving costs anymore. This car will go to a higher base power than the current top of the line polo gti.
My good old Renault ZOE fills the needs after 224000 km. Waitimg for Tesla in this segment.