2022 Volkswagen ID.4 AWD Dual Motor Review
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- Brian reviews the dual motor AWD Volkswagen ID.4, finding it to be a great family vehicle with plenty of things going for it. It is powerful enough that it will keep drivers feeling confident in more strenuous traffic situations, but isn't so violently quick that is frightens passengers. It is comfortable and fitted with unique tech that might be hit or miss for some people, but worked well overall for him.
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I bought the ID.4 because the price was so good and it is a better built car than the Tesla model Y. The three year free charging was a nice bonus. It has been a wonderful car. No regrets. Recommend it to anyone.
To be honest I prefer the review of Alex .
ID4 in AWD pro base model (51k after incentives and taxes) is almost 38k cheaper than the Tesla model y (89k after taxes) here in Canada if you factor in luxury tax and EV incentives. Model Y does not have any incentives.. So it is a HUGE difference. You can almost buy 2 ID4s at the same price. It is really a no-brainer for people who just want an EV for everyday use. I am thinking of getting an EV6 to replace our hybrid because I am so impressed with the ID4 we bought.
My very first electric car!! Nice video Alex.
Great review! Love seeing the new Alex. Thanks Brian
Brian is an excellent addition to the AoA team. Very impressed with how he handled this review.
I honestly just come here for the intro, the actual content is an added bonus
I found the comparative, second half of the video really informative. Thank you!
Good points. Yes, the Model Y is better in nearly every way. But so is a Porsche Cayenne compared to a cheap CUV. We need more "everyday" EV for the mass market. More grocery-getter-and-get-the-kids-to-school cars, not more status symbols with sporty 0-60 times and nice brand logos. Like you said, EV need to be accessible for the masses.
YES! I keep saying this. Why is every EV trying to be a sports car? I don't car about low 0-60 times in my gas powered cars, so why would I care in an EV? Is it cool that there are ev trucks as fast as sports cars? Sure, but that's not what the average person needs. Most people just need a safe, reliable vehicle to get to and from work that has enough room for their kids and doesn't break the bank. I think, for most people, the 3 most important considerations for an EV are charging speed, range, and cost
@@Takermania70 It's because of the "car enthusiast" who extol the virtues of a V12 and the magnificent sound and "rumble of the engine" cry about the death of ICE and how an EV can never replicate that "fun". These voices are louder than the normal person who just wants a nice car that gets them where they need to be. And because those voices are so loud, all the automakers are doing those EV's with amazing 0-60 times to show that tiny albeit loud section of people that "EV's can be fun too." The funny thing is some if not most of those "car enthusiasts" can't afford a V12 or V10 or V8. But they'll yell "WHAT ABOUT THE SOUND!!!"
Yes, but at least it doesn’t have 👻 braking.
In Los Angeles, Teslas are becoming as common and boring as Toyota Camrys. They are everywhere and they all look the same. The beluga whale look is not inspiring. I would chose just about anything over a Tesla just for the sake of variety. They are also way too expensive. Model Y is $60K! The id4 is $45K plus you get $7500 tax credit you can’t get with Teslas anymore. That’s a $20k premium for the Tesla. It's a no brainer for me. I test drove the iD4 and really liked it.
@@JonMoralesLA also ppl used to shit on vw for reliability but Tesla is just about dead last 😂
Brian does quite a good job, although I prefer what seems to be the use of multiple cameras when Alex creates his videos. I appreciate Brian's unbiased review of the ID.4's user interfaces, which other reviewers seem to be overly critical of. While I prefer smaller cars (Prius size), I'd be happy with either the ID.4 or the IONIQ 5.
The Tiguan has an “Optional small 2rd row” lol. Little typo there. Great videos man. I always check your videos so much before changing my car. And you haven’t disappointed me a single time. Love the way you review in so much details.
Great job Brian! The decision between buying an ID.4 or Model Y just comes down to how much money you want to (or are able to) spend. I don’t think there is another way of putting it. Model Y is better in many ways than the VW, but if you don’t care about the ways that the Tesla is better, might as well buy the one that is $21k cheaper…
There is also quite a bit of criticism of the ride in the Y. Rough.
@@sak1339 I agree. Teslas without air suspension are bouncy. Same with Polestar 2 and Mach-e. IONIQ 5, EV6, and ID.4 are the only new EVs that have decent ride quality I think. Luckily, the front seats on the EVs with bouncy rides are all extremely comfortable.
It just makes me want the IDbuzz all the more.
I'm waiting for an ID Buzz or an Aptera. I hope you look into that Alex. I found your channel originally when you reviewed the Chevy Spark EV.
If I was in the market for an EV-SUV, the ID4 would definitely be the sweet spot for me😎
Great job you guys did on this video!
Great review, definitely did your homework
I still like buttons and switches. All that glossy black plastic is going to get smudged and scratched. Great review, Brian! Really glad you’re an integral part of team AoA!
Best vehicle in class but the car market is completely screwed up when an SUV "for the masses" is over 45k. Taxes bring it to 50k
Unless you're household is making over 120k, then you shouldn't be looking at a vehicle that cost 50k.
I cancelled my order for a Model Y and reserved and ID4. I just liked it so much more than the Y. I felt it was more comfortable, I liked how it drove and I don't need to go 0-60 in 2 seconds for my around the town driving. I also don't need to impress anyone with a Model Y. The ID4 has everything I need for around town driving AND 3 years free charging is hard to beat! I can't wait for my ID4 to arrive. I have owned 2 Beetles in the past so I'm definitely a repeat customer.
Great review Brian. I guess Alex isn’t providing his multi camera set up to you. Lol.
I really like this video -- as i do most of your videos. Brian is not as polished as Alex, but he's thoughtful and I am impressed that he liked the VW as much as he did....Currently I drive a 2018 Honda CR-V EX with 31K miles on it, and it's probably the best vehicle I've ever owned. It's great in so many ways. I like the size and driving position. Just purchased it from Honda at the end of the lease and it's got a lot of upside when i get ready to sell it in a few months. I'm ready to go electric!!
So....I'm leaning towards a 2022 Ford Mach-e Select RWD. Other option/idea is ID4 Pro AWD. Similar pricing. I really like both, have driven both (VW was RWD version). Living in AZ, I'd prefer cloth seats and no moonroof/sunroof. I have a pretty short commute (only about 5 miles each way), and only take 1-2 road trips a year. Will lease this through my work. My question for Alex and/or Brian -- which of these two would you choose if you were me? thanks
Good review! My only feedback is that this video was a bit noisier than other AoA videos. Sounds like your mic placement needs a little work or overall pull the gain down so there's less background noise.
Really enjoy the content you guys have published on EV's. Do you guys have an ID.4 vs Solterra by chance? Been searching for one and would love to know your thoughts. These are the only two I'm considering at this point. You make good points about both. However, feature wise, such as the heat pump system in the Solterra compared to what the ID.4 uses? Not sure if I've found accurate data to compare the two but the ID.4 originally didn't have a heat pump but it was introduced in 2022? Anyway hoping you guys have all the details to compare both vehicles.
Thank you for a great review. Ready for my EV car coming from a hybrid car. Love Alex's end review comparing the different EVs. Been watching ID4 reviews since the launch and it is still one of my choice. The Hyundai Ioniq 5 is the other. Just waiting for availability to be able to test drive the Ioniq. Just wanted to also see the driver seat height since I do not like squatting to get in to a vehicle. That is my main reason for getting a CUV. Any info on the seat heights for the ID4 and the Ioniq5 ? Again Thank you for your work. love your reviews.
The Hyundai and Kia are bigger than they look. They're compact crossovers, not hatchbacks, and the seat height is where you'd expect it to be. Of course you'd need to try it for yourself, but I don't think you'll find it too low.
Hey guys, been a big fan of the videos and think Brian is doing a great job. I was curious if you could start reviewing the more utility side of things for these crossovers/suvs in your reviews as well. Things like: how flat do the seats fold, could I comfortably sleep in the back for car camping by myself/ with a partner, ease of loading heavy gear in and out of (how high is the back lip from the floor). These are questions I regularly have when shopping out new EVs and am constantly shocked on how little information is out there for these questions. Isn't the point of a SUV/crossover style to have greater utility?
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I think if you really started actually testing these sort things, you'd find that most hatchbacks and SUVs aren't all that practical for cargo capacity relative to their exterior dimensions. It's like the automotive journalist default is to see a lift-back or hatch and just assume that it's more utilitarian than a similarly sized sedan. For example, both this "Utility" vehicle and the Honda Accord sedan get a roller bag score of 5. Except, to get 5 roller bags into the ID.4, you completely block the rear window. Whereas, in an Accord, you get 5 bags in a trunk, and no obstructed views, plus greater security during on the street parking situations. Sure, if you are talking about sleeping in your car, and it's just you and maybe one other person and you can fold down the rear seats, there's a legit argument to be made for more cargo capacity and practicality in an SUV or hatch/liftbacks. But for those of us who need to use our back seats for people and pets, a big on the outside, small on the inside SUV is a less than ideal choice.
I realize that most of these wouldn't be suitable for a 6'+ person camping, but I'll second that I would absolutely love to see a scale shown for every one as well! It's a huge consideration for me.
@@evank8459 Me as well! I'm 6'4 and used to camp in my Prius after building a little platform to extend the rear seat backs. I'm pretty sure the Id 4 would work for me after taking some measurements.
Thanks for the comparisons. So far the VW iD 4 is the closest to an suv ride height, which I think is important if it’s called an suv or crossover. I think the Nissan Ariya will be a good competitor to the ID 4.
So I guess the normal format is done with when Brian is included? I honestly enjoy this channel for the multiple synchronized camera views during the driving segment. He's great at reviews but I'd rather have more options than just his face.
Yes - Close to the Edge vibes from the thumbnail
Thanks for the video. I'm hoping for the best in terms of getting into another EV. Pushing EV prices over $45K is not going to make a lot of financial sense to me. When people decide to buy cars based on need and not want, hopefully, this situation will improve.
Id4… the quintessential econobox of the future
No that will be the id3 and the like. The id4 is very much mid market.
I’ve been saying this for a while not everyone needs a crossover that does 0-60 in 3 seconds most people just want an affordable EV, that can get them to their destination safely, Is it cool that a model Y can beat a lot of sports to 60?, yes but is it necessary no. The average gas crossover has about 180hp and no one really complains
Availability is interesting right now. I made an ID.4 reservation last July and just got an email yesterday saying the AWD was still 6-8 months out. Two weeks ago I walked into a dealer in Utah and bought an IONIQ 5 for MSRP. So it was easy to get the one that isn't even listed as being on sale in my state but the one that is supposedly available is going to take 15 months from the reservation 🤔
The all wheel drive isn’t easily available. If you really paid attention to the video he said the id4 is sold nationwide not the ionic 5 and that is correct. People can get a rear wheel drive pro and pro s . I hate when they limit where they are sold and only sell the high priced version 1st I can’t afford a 50,000 or 60,000 ionic 5 but 39 or 40,000 on a lease is better.
You are scaring me now because I just placed an order on 2022 VW ID.4 Pro with AWD. I hope to get it this mid year base on they told me.
Here in FL the dealers are charging a $10k markup on the Korean EV's and they're very hard to come by. The cars are more crossovers than SUV's, being somewhat smaller and lower to the ground. Your going to sit lower and have less ground clearance for off-road. Charging is faster and I like the AC outlet feature, but you have to find a charger that can put out all that juice. You can also save thousands by getting a Bolt EUV, which is smaller still, but with a proposed $12k federal tax credit, could wind up costing as low as $23k!!!
Prolly what im getting this spring. friend works at dealership 😉
Alex, great information. what is the approximate drive range for id4 S and how accurate is the actual mile when using under NORMAL driving condition with AC running?
Capacitive buttons are no better than touchscreens. You have to take your eyes off the road to use the instead of knowing by feel if you’ve pressed the right one.
It depends on whether they can be found by touch and offer adequate feedback. A flat panel of them is the worst situation, but designs like those on the steering wheel can work well.
Good job Brian, but Alex is the master.
You're the best, Alex! Everything you need and nothing that you don't. I used to be a Tesla fan, but with monthly price increases and poor assembly and reliability, the shine is off. I'm not a fan of con man Musk, either. I'm waiting to see the Ariya and Ocean and VinFast before I pull the trigger. In the meantime, I've got my Volt to run around without range anxiety!
I am becoming more interested in EVs and this looks like a nice example. I would want the AWD for bad weather traction and the extra power would be nice also.
Thanks to Brian On Autos for the info. 😉
Compared to my ‘17 Golf Alltrack, I like the ID4 Pro S AWD. The overall dimensions are shockingly close but the ID4 feels much larger. Both are nice, but the ID4 is just such a serene driving experience, and the level of performance is much more satisfying than my old Alltrack.
I love the size of the ID4. It’s not a very long vehicle!
@@eleanormassaro5195 indeed, it’s quite compact for its interior size. It’s just taller than I’m used to! 😸
If VW still sold the e-Golf here in America I’d be a buyer.
The e-Golf range was simply inadequate for most US buyers. That class of EV makes more sense in Europe, and is more common there, where few people take long road trips or have long commutes by car. In the US it was tok expensive for its limitations.
The rest of the world gets the ID3 which is Golf sized but with 250+ mile range. I tried the ID4 but it was too big for my needs.
@@Error6503 Is the ID 3 ever coming here? Also are they going to kill off all of their nameplates to be replaced with ID? I find that absolutely ridiculous. Killing the legendary Golf for a ID? Wow.
@@baronvonjo1929 I asked the VW salesman about the ID.3 and he shrugged and said "yeah, a lot of people ask that". But I doubt it will come anytime soon; VW sell something like 100,000 Tiguans per year in the US but only 10,000 Golfs. The ID.4 is already selling better than the Golf in the US and they won't to risk cannibalizing sales of the more profitable ID.4 just to win over a few Golf owners with an ID.3. I think the Golf will remain as GTi and R trims only until they're finally forced to stop selling ICE vehicles.
@@Error6503 I didn't even see the ID3 as a Golf replacement. I see it has a replacement for the Jetta. Has VW announced plans to make EV sedans?
How does ride, and cruise system, safety features?
Alex looks different today, must be the sunlight.
Cant you get different seats with the us version? I have sport seats with my european version
Is there dealer markup for the ID4? I never bought a VW before...
VW decided to give us mood lighting and illumination under the front seats, but failed to illuminate many of the capacitive touch buttons on the dashboard at night. Quirks like this make me angry for some reason.
Excellent review welcome to the family buddy 👍
If price wasn't a consideration, I'd go for the Model Y, because they're the technology leader and the charging network that's available. For example, there are no Electrify America stations at all in the entire state of West Virginia, while I know there are multiple Tesla charging stations. However, if I never drove anywhere that i couldn't get home without using a charging station, I'd be happy with the Volkswagen. I like its styling, in that at first glance, it doesn't scream out "I'm and electric car!"
If they'd just fix that infuriating infotainment/touch-sensitive-button-everything interface and window switches, I'd be at the dealership to put a deposit on one in a heartbeat. Wish they wouldn't design a bunch of "solutions" looking for a problem into the critical touch points of the vehicle, and just stick with the K.I.S.S. principle instead.
FYI ID4 AWD is faster to 60 in real world testing than 266HP Mach E. See Motorweek ID4 test drive. ID4 has more cargo space, is faster, has better range, has ambient interior lighting, can tow, has heated steering wheel and heated seats. For same features you pay $10,000 more for Mach E. It’s whether you want to spend the extra coin on the Mach E or settle for less features. You can equip them both for around $50000 but the Mach E won’t have the glass roof with sunshade, ambient lighting or AWD and will be slower and shorter range. It’s prettier though IMO.
Does it have the Premium sound and HUD?
Mini ev and ford hybrid maverick. I what that combo
Thank goodness for the VW TDI scandal.. There would be no Electrify America Sites and Tesla would still be the only choice. AND Thanks for demonstrating the ID 4 as a viable EV with your Video...
I’ve owned a few VW’s over the years and I’d describe myself as a fan of the brand, even after getting caught up in the diesel gate debacle. I like the id4 but I feel like it might be a little small for my purposes now that we have kids in car seats and lots of stuff to haul around. I’ve been looking at Telluride but feel like an EV or PHEV version of a larger three row must be right around the corner and I’m holding out for that.
They will release a 7 seat version of it similar to the one in China ID6, I think they called it ID8
If you can see an ID4 in person you should. It, like most EVs, have more room inside than you’d think. May still be too small for you, but check it out in person!
So how much is the mileage range for this 2022 VW ID 4 PRO S AWD?
Well, you can get a model Y, if you are willing to wait months for it. Until the Texas factory comes online, availability will be tight. For that matter until they come out of that factory the build quality will suck.
The price difference between a full spec ID.4 GTX and model Y is very small in Europe.. That said I feel ID.4 is the best family car. The road noise from the Model Y is worse than from the ID.4 The ride is also much harder and stiffer with the Model Y. And max allowed cargo weight is right now much lower on Model Y than on ID.4. Tesla will probably change that,but they will not tell when to customers. And there are no hooks or cargo protection kit sold with the model Y in Europe right now. So if you do want that you have to look for aftermarket solutions. So for a familiy car the german ID.4 has it all. Tesla delivers a more sportier car,but Model Y should be the best family car..right? Well,I do think it fails on that segment. If practicallity counts, then ID.4 is the more mature car for that job. If you want a fast fun car buy a model 3. I got them both,id.4 and model 3,and Tesla has to do some family thinking to get the model Y right for the family segment. More comfort,more practical features should be done on the model Y to make it a more mature family car.
any chance in 2022 model might add 360 view?
So the dc fast charging increased? Did that better the charge times? Compelling package they offer.
The new update for the ID4 decreased it 10-80 charge time from 40 minutes to 29.
I feel like you REALLY glossed over the haptic controls and what a nightmare they are.
Thanks for your review. I love the charts and systematic approach. However, comparing the
Tiguan isn't really the best comparison, IMHO. How about the Rav4 Prime? Nearly as efficient. About as fast. Better reliability. Wayy better for trips. That's the SUV I'm considering right now instead of this or the Mustang. I'd like to more environmentally friendly, but the EV's still have way too many compromises when compared to the very fuel-efficient hybrids.
I also was wondering about the Taos. It is 5" shorter, while the Tiguan is 5" longer. The Taos would also be a legitimate alternative.
How do you know that the RAV4 is more reliable than an ID.4?
Rav4 Prime is more environmentally friendly as Alex has mentioned in previous videos. Battery resource mining is brutal environmentally motto mention you can make 50-70 hybrids from a single EV. Furthermore look where electricity comes from to charge EVs. Very small percentage wind and solar (and always will be due to low power output). Until massive adoption of nuclear power is adopted power grids will continue to be fueled primarily by natural gas and in many developing countries like China, coal
@@DeniJasmina Like most things all we can do is look at statistics not absolutes. Rav4 is among the most reliable of any vehicle made.
@@James-il3tq The US grid is 40% non-carbon (nuclear, hydro, wind, solar), which is hardly insignificant. Wind and solar are around 10% combined, and increasing because they are cheapest, even unsubsidized. While reliable, nuclear is one of the most expensive sources of new power, and takes a long time to complete, so few are being built.
Still wish they would have single tone interior options. Stop forcing two tone. I’m 6’7” and fit just fine.
I’m honestly considering the ID.4 because the charging rate is just about as fast as Tesla at just 40 minutes from 0% to 80% and the savings to me is huge with that free 3 years of charging at EA. I wanted to not like the ID.4 because I am a tesla fan but I have to give credit where credit is due. Even though I’m a person that drives 120-250 miles per day I think I would take that savings everyday with the ID.4 over the model y. Now I’m just trying to convince myself that a used Model 3 isn’t a better option than the ID.4
I never knew the Tiguan had an optional second row.
ID.4 vs Model Y -- No mention of build quality and reliability?
Hopefully the ID.Buzz ditches the touch crap controls & has a non-laggy infotainment system with proper door controls.
When will the 2023 come out.
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Would not say the model Y has great availability , I was checking this week and new delivery’s are out in October. The base Model 3 is around the same. You can get faster delivery on long performance or models with the more expensive Blue or Red paint
These days that is good availability or at least you can count on it. Try and buy an Ioniq 5 and the answer is "how?".
@@gregb7353 True I went to a dealership near us to test drive one on Sunday after the Tesla one I had and it had just been sold. Seem to be quite a few EV6 around ( I am in Orlando)
Base Model Y deliveries are August so long as you add a paid option; ANY paid option. Their lowest price paid options are $1k. If you don't add a paid option, deliveries are December. Seriously, you can add a different paint option for $1000, or switch to white interior for $1000 and it'll move up the delivery date 4 months. I don't say that as being a good thing, but as being embarrassing. They're pushing back base vehicle delivery times four months over a whopping $1000...for a vehicle that starts at $59k!.... yowzers...
And before anyone says it... no, it isn't because they're running batches of vehicles. You can literally choose ANY one of their paid option and get the vehicle delivery date in August.
@@gregb7353 People have reported finding them on the lot. Likely cancelled orders or dealer allotments. It is hard to find one on the lot without markups, but some people have managed to snag them for MSRP.
@@updlate4756 That is my point. It's very hard to find them. At least with Tesla you can click a few buttons and get one in August. You can't order an Ioniq 5 so you are probably looking to fly somewhere and pay over MSRP to get one at the least.
The new guy is pretty good. He doesn't have youtuber energy though. If I'm not being yelled at, am I really watching a car review?
Ha! Know what you mean. I appreciate this channel's low-key geekiness. They actually talk about the product in detail.
It really does look like the battery cannot be stopped now
I have a reservation for the all wheel drive model specifically for the reasons you said it is a substitute for a small SUV and I don’t believe in spending that much money on things that I don’t need a huge range I was using it as a daily driver but I’m afraid my model that I had on reserve is floating somewhere in the Atlantic
That's sad. Happening a lot right now.
can we expect a review of the Porsche 911 GT3 (992)?
12:20 the 2nd row is optional?? 😜
This is a solid option. THus, I would personally pick Ioniq 5/EV6 over this as they have more presence and seem better equipped! Also more fun
The charging speed would sell me on them, plus better infotainment and instrument panel screens. I especially like the sweep of screens in the Kia, though I slightly prefer the Hyundai's exterior styling. I really like the VW, but at essentially the same price, the Kia and Hyundai seem to offer more. If I strictly wanted a commuter/city vehicle that I entirely charged overnight, the VW would be a stronger contender, but I like road trips, and fast charging is a big plus.
@@markmiller3279 Exactly, totally agree with all your points. VW ID4 is a good car and more family oriented but EV6 is just a better car all around - More fun to drive/faster, better looking (subjective), faster charging and more options!
As long as it runs 2 different tire sizes...Front/rear...It remains off My shopping list..............Paul
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For $60K it’s an easy choice to buy the IONIQ 5 Limited for its ride quality and charge speed. Use the extra cash to seal the paint. 🎯
Markups are real with Hyundai and Kia right now so good luck getting at MSRP
@@devinself2104 Yup…found a few in every state I’ve looked in that sell at MSRP. Rare but they can be found.
I like the tesla model Y. However I don’t appreciate the part where I have to call up Tesla to let them know about their quality control if im buying it all new.
Not sure I agree with the argument of are features xyz worth $20k. This assumes the $20k goes into a fire and is gone. The reality is the 5 year cost is what matters and will EVs holding their value even before the market went crazy it's more like are these features worth $3k more over 5 years. Just making that number up but you get the point. A $60k car is going to depreciate more than a $40k car but it's not going to lose all $20k more.
Maybe not all, but luxury car depreciation is usually quite high. Most of that extra $20k will be gone in five years. Right now EV value may hold up, but we have no idea if that will continue. If Teslas deprevoate like their ICE competitors it won't.
Used car buyers are typically seeking reliable transportation, not fancy extras that break a lot. The most reliable brands have the best resale value, and most luxury car brands are pretty unreliable. Consumer Reports has Tesla reliability even lower than other luxury brands. I don't think used-car buyers will want cars with a bunch of broken features.
@@markmiller3279 Comparing historical ICE luxury car depreciation to EVs is just flawed. If you had a 2020 $50k MachE with 120k miles on it, what do you think it would be worth on the market? It's not depreciating by 50% like a Merc or BMW would. You would easily get $40k for it. Why? Because you know you can drive it another 120k miles without any issues and it's just as good as a 2022 MachE but you save some money. What would it be worth with 240k miles? Probably $35k. Why? Because you can't touch an EV that good for $35k and you know it will drive 120k more miles with no trouble.
It’s the option packages that are the real depreciation trouble spots. It’s difficult to get a reasonable amount of your money back on the $6k you dropped to personalise hot ride.
Bring back Alex! This review was lacking.
Didn't your mother ever tell you that if you don't have something nice to say .......
@@treads2595 My Mom taught me honesty is the best policy
Mach E sales are ramping up? They’ve sold like 27,000. I think Tesla sells that in half a month.
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Capacitive buttons on cars is a bad idea. Capacitive buttons on the steering wheel is stupid.
These can be operated by touch quite easily, because the button panel has a shape. As with Mercedes, it's easy to find the right place to press, and the haptic feedback (and beep) confirm that you did. Capacitive touch buttons are a disaster when it's just a flat panel.
I just look at a vehicle & try to compare all of the various elements individually. Fuel costs, acceleration, braking, safety feature, quality of build and materials inside and out. All of these cars are alternatives to each other whether they are ICE or EV or hybrid. The whole problem with the Tesla fanatical crowd is, it's Tesla or nothing and they seem to think Teslas are a gift from heaven. I've driven the Model 3 and Model Y, and believe me, they aren't a gift from heaven.
So now I'm seeing a SUV like the Q4 AWD and think, hey wait, that's the same price as a SQ5. Acceleration is very close, fuel costs are substantially lower in the Q4, maintenance will cost a lot less with the Q4, Q4 is quieter similar quality build and int materials.. And if I want to save a little more the ID4 AWD top trim is a very good alternative.
I have a RWD ID.4... it's great but super boring. I'm going to be trading in for an EV6 AWD GT-Line later this year. I considered the Ioniq 5 (not a fan of the dash/center console setup) and the Mach-E (not sure I could even get one this year..plus everything just feels outdated and old...and tighter than it should be for a car its size). I will look at the GV60 when its released but I feel like its gonna cost at least 5k more than the EV6 for not much gain....and I would consider the Model Y if the tax credit is revised this year but that's not looking like it will happen. And honestly I think I prefer the EV6 over the Model Y anyway... they are a dime a dozen here in SoCal.
Not everyone lives where all dealerships are available. Have GM, Stelantis and Ford. Ford dealer no MacE, non on order
The Hyundai-Kia-Genesis charging would seem to blow the ID4 away.
Why is the MY called luxury. Just because something is expensive doesn't mean it's luxury. One could argue the cost of the MY is due to the advanced computer/software and that's a valid argument. I'm not saying the MY isn't worth the price, I'm just saying it's not luxury. The inside is so basic but some people like that apparently. The seats are pretty good though.
Did Alex lose weight? Good job Brian. BTW Missed the multi-panes on the test drive.
I like the Id 4 pro S. The features that come with this Vw is very good. I test drive the id 4 today, drive like a will built car. The interior of the car is quality build, it’s a Ev car with good range. The model y is not for me, the over all quality is not for me. I have a Mercedes suv. I understand over all quality.
I don’t think Tesla lives up to the reputation. They’re very fast, and very efficient, and they definitely did spark the EV revolution (for that, I’ll always have a sweet spot for Tesla). But, for me, there are simply too many compromises to owning a Tesla, and the build quality simply isn’t good enough for the price.
absolute complete bullsht, either people like or not, the frenetic green policies and subsidies from western governments ARE what sparked and KEEPS pushing ev s and many other changes in many industries
$3/gallon? Not in my neighborhood (LA). From what I understand, premium tops $5 all over the state.
$3/gal is fairly normal prices here in the Midwest... although it has gone up about a $1 in the past 6 months.
VW ID.4 love the Styling Out & In. Tesla has no Styling!
Huh? Where's Alex?
Not appreciating the clickbait of Alex in the thumbnail but not hosting…. And didn’t he do this review months ago?
the US spec ID4 is missing 3 options that are available in other markets. 21 inch wheels, sports seats and 3D taillights.
All very minor. The big wheels just ruin the ride, the sport seats make no sense on a vehicle that isn't at all sporty, and the fancy taillights are pretty, but function no better. I think VW made reasonable choices in omitting those three.
None of those option sound interesting at all. I want smaller rims for a better ride and better EV range. Don't want over bolstered sport seats, and 3D tail lights are just cosmetic.
Odds on they and a lot of other small selling options will come when US production dramatically increases sales volume.
I really like the ID4. Also Tesla will never get a dime of my money.
I honestly don't consider a Tesla Model Y a luxury EV. While it has plenty of content, meaning features, few of those would be considered luxury. I consider the Audi Q4 E-tron, E-tron, Lucid Air, Mercedes EQS and the BMW i4 and iX as luxury EVs. Price really isn't the determining factor to luxury. Having said that, the Tesla Model Y, Ford Mustang Mach-E, Hyundai Ionic 5, Kia EV6 and VW ID.4 are a competing segment. They are relatively close in price, size and features. The VW is definitely the price leader, but the biggest issue is the ADM that traditional dealers are adding to all of these vehicles. In many cases, most of these EVs are priced more than a Model Y. And that is sad.
Alex is lookin kinda funny