Is The Fanatec CSL DD Still Worth It After Using It For 6 Months?! | FANATEC CSL DD 6 MONTH REVIEW

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  • Is The Fanatec CSL DD Still Worth It After Using It For 6 Months?! | FANATEC CSL DD 6 MONTH REVIEW
    Hey Guys! Now that I've had the CSL DD for 6 months I thought it would be a good opportunity to go through some good things and bad things that have happened through the time I've owned it!
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  • @iva_cramp
    @iva_cramp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Hey Man, much appreciated vid, again, as many people with a negative experience out shout those with a good experience by many fold, but if you do a lot of boring laborious searching you can find that there are many more happy owners than unhappy.
    Cheers Brother, happy life !

    • @KyleSpoor
      @KyleSpoor  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey Paul! I 100% agree sometimes it’s hard to find good reviews of things because the people with a good experience rarely comment! It’s normally people who’ve had a bad experience making the reviews of things so I’m glad you found this video useful! 😄

  • @JeremyLeech
    @JeremyLeech 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I’ve had the CSL DD since around January I believe. And I’ve loved every minute of it.

    • @KyleSpoor
      @KyleSpoor  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hell yeah dude!! I'm happy to hear! :D I literally cant think of anything bad to say so far!

  • @Papeone111
    @Papeone111 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great vid, everything explained really well.

  • @glennmcleod9950
    @glennmcleod9950 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Holy crap was only watching your initial impression video today!

    • @KyleSpoor
      @KyleSpoor  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hahah no way! 😂 what are the chances

  • @tatfastguy
    @tatfastguy ปีที่แล้ว

    great video man. waiting for my csl dd 8nm to come in i got v2 pedals and the mclaren gt3/f1 wheel and the bmw circle one

  • @RichJamisonRacing
    @RichJamisonRacing 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Great stuff! My experience has been the same with the CSL DD with the boost kit. I was able to get in on the second wave of pre-orders when it first came out. Had a G27 prior to this wheel. Well worth the cost!

    • @KyleSpoor
      @KyleSpoor  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Hell yea dude!! I went from a G29 and I 100% agree well worth the cost! 😀

    • @brandonchappell1535
      @brandonchappell1535 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Currently running a G27 too, getting damn keen to pick one of these up soon though !! This feedback didnt help lol

    • @Rich_Jamison
      @Rich_Jamison ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@brandonchappell1535 If you decide to pull the trigger on this, you won't regret it!

    • @misterpacha1
      @misterpacha1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@KyleSpoorbro y didn't u buy the dd pro? I did. Works on f horizon 5

    • @AndrewTSq
      @AndrewTSq 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@misterpacha1 you just have to get the right steering wheel for it to work on Xbox from my understanding. The security chip xbox needs is in the wheel, while if you have a playstation you need the right wheelbase, cause the Playstation has it inside the wheelbase

  • @jamieshipley89
    @jamieshipley89 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm glad you made this video. Think im going to buy one.....and your right. If your looking at wheels you might have come across it. I did after about 5 mins of searching

    • @KyleSpoor
      @KyleSpoor  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey mate! I’m glad the video helped you out!! 😄 any questions that I didn’t answer? Happy to help if I can ☺️

  • @bondy2001
    @bondy2001 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks man good review. just about to buy one but wasnt sure if i should buy the moza

  • @GavinNaylor
    @GavinNaylor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    FANATEC SHILL! Nah but seriously great to hear that you've had no issues looks like such a fun wheelbase also great review as always!

    • @KyleSpoor
      @KyleSpoor  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hahaha 😂😂 what can I say 🤷🏼‍♂️ haha. I’m glad you liked it dude! I appreciate you 😄

  • @BERRY_2508
    @BERRY_2508 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the content my man

    • @KyleSpoor
      @KyleSpoor  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh dude thank you so much!! I really appreciate that 😅 what did you think of the video?

  • @chrise.400
    @chrise.400 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Stumbled across your channel recently as I just ordered the CSL DD 8Nm.
    Hopefully mine is as trouble free as your has been - I was somewhat apprehensive given Fanatec’s less than stellar reputation of hardware and software issues. Then again, there are definitely more happy folks than unhappy folks.
    Time will tell with my experience once I get it!
    Regardless, enjoying your content, subbed ✌️

    • @PageCrowes
      @PageCrowes 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Did you get yours delivered yet my friend?

    • @chrise.400
      @chrise.400 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Not yet! Supposed to arrive on Monday the 30th, or worst case on the 31st. Looks like my Halloween will be a treat instead of a trick - all good by me!
      I did receive my Clubsport 320mm wheel today though, love the quality…suffice to say it’s quite a big step up from all my old Thrustmaster gear!

    • @PageCrowes
      @PageCrowes 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @chrise.400 I'm coming from thrustmaster too. I like everything better. I am selling my thrustmaster gear. All of it works great still.

  • @Resinatural640
    @Resinatural640 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I’m praying I can get my hands on a DD soon. I’ve 100% outgrown my G920, and don’t feel like switching the Thrustmaster for the TSPC. I’d rather go straight to Fanatec, but I’ve heard rumors that they probably won’t release any more 5nm which is disappointing.

    • @KyleSpoor
      @KyleSpoor  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey dude! Oh really?! I didn’t know that 😮 if it means anything I went from the g29 to the 8nm CSL DD and it was the perfect transition. I don’t know if I would have liked the 5nm version as much 🤷🏼‍♂️

    • @CJ-uh8bk
      @CJ-uh8bk 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      As someone who literally just ordered the 5NM CSL DD like 2-3 days ago, thankfully you were wrong 😂

    • @Chrisx093
      @Chrisx093 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@CJ-uh8bk same! Will definitely need to grab the boost kit for 8nm soon but I think it's good for my first wheel 🙏🏼

  • @ThisOldTechGuy
    @ThisOldTechGuy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Big CSL DD fan here. Wheelbase is AMAZING and rock solid for the money. However there are always issues and here are mine. Still a huge Fanatec fan:
    The QR-Lite is not strong enough for 8nm. Make sure you get a QR-1 wheel side hub with every wheel.
    The drive shaft can work itself loose due to insufficient tightening at the factory, and start a firmware update loop. An easy fix, loosen C-clamp, pull and reseat hub shaft (bulletproof USB-C connection) and retighten C-clamp two turns harder than you think is good enough.
    The shifter is amazing, but the hall sensors can get "twitchy" and miss shifts or slip gear. Opening up the shifter box (CAREFULLY so as not to yank out sequential wires. Watch videos FIRST) and adjusting them is possible and does not violate warranty.
    The WRC Rally Wheel, also the BMW wheel, basically the cheapest round wheel is functional but far too plastic for my taste. Spend the $400 or more for a proper wheel.
    I love the Universal Hub V2. Unless you really need a GT specific wheel the universla hub should give you all the buttons you need and you can use it with small and large rims.
    I use VR so I cannot see all the awesome dials and such for many wheels so memorizing buttons on the universal is great for all types of racing from rally to F3.
    I have the handbrake and it is a game changer for rally and any car that uses it. Just works after plugging it into the wheelbase.
    This person has been very lucky that no configuration or maintenance issues have occurred. SIm Racing is in transition from a very DIY hobby to a commoditized, boxable experience available in a store. I would still strongly recommend the sim racing enthusiast be ready to use tools, open up and configure the hardware, learn about the computing environment, the drivers, the entire system as we would our actual race car should we have been so blessed. A huge side effect of this process is to be able to precisely tune the settings of the CSL DD and hopefully the V3 Pedals to maximize the experience.

    • @KyleSpoor
      @KyleSpoor  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Your a machine dude! thanks for helping out :D

    • @tharix6063
      @tharix6063 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I actually cannot confirm the issue regarding the QR Lite. If been using it for about 8 Months now with the 8NM Version on the Mclaren V2 and had no issues. I kind of like it even a bit more than the QR1 as it has less play.

    • @yamyam60
      @yamyam60 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for your input to this video, you just answered all my questions about the CSL DD.

    • @tehgusbus2716
      @tehgusbus2716 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is the qr light good enough for the 5nm?

  • @Craycola
    @Craycola ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Just leaving this here in case someone runs into something similar. I was having issues with the fanatech shifter when mounted on an aluminum rig. Where in certain games, namely Dirt 2.0, it would randomly pop out of gear in game without touching the shifter itself. It ended up being caused by some weird electrical interference between the csl dd and the shifter when both mounted to the aluminum rig. Once I isolated the shifter from the aluminum rig with a piece of acrylic and nylon washers the problem immediately went away. Other than that annoying problem it's worked great thus far.

  • @matthewbuckle3478
    @matthewbuckle3478 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It doesn’t crash, because the crashing is done elsewhere Kappa. Just kidding, great video mate. I’m still very happy with my wheel and pedals, but would take your word for this if I were to upgrade

    • @KyleSpoor
      @KyleSpoor  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hahaha we both know where the crashing happens 😂 I’m glad you liked the video Dude! I hope it helps answer some questions for people 😄

  • @starlord270
    @starlord270 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    By all means, I am currently playing with the wheel base on Forza 5 Horizon now. At the time of your video, was it not the case?

    • @KyleSpoor
      @KyleSpoor  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey Mate! Yea it’s all fixed for me now 😄 when I filmed this video I didn’t work but low it does 😄

  • @dickfitzwelliner2807
    @dickfitzwelliner2807 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are you able to update the wheel if you're using an Xbox? I don't have a computer anymore

  • @Mr_jz_12
    @Mr_jz_12 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love mine. Only complaints is the quick release on the clubsport wheel having slop (the seal) but thas no fault of the csl dd.

    • @KyleSpoor
      @KyleSpoor  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh Dayum! I think I get what you mean! I haven’t had that issue myself but I can imagine what you mean 😄

    • @Mr_jz_12
      @Mr_jz_12 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@KyleSpoor Apparently its a known issue with that quick release. Supposedly a second seal comes with the wheel/release but i don't remember getting one. I need to contact fanatec about it.

    • @KyleSpoor
      @KyleSpoor  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh gotcha! Keep me posted if you find out anything from fanatec! I’d love to know what happens 😄

    • @popsracer5903
      @popsracer5903 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I just got a CSL DD. I upgraded from the CSW 2.5. There is a difference between the two as far as the quick release. The CSW 2.5 has an O-Ring that is also around the wheelbase shaft. This takes away the play the everyone is talking about on the CSL DD. The play is very minor and generally doesn’t bother me. Because it doesn’t have the O-Ring the quick release works better as there is less drag.
      Btw - The CSL DD is ever so slightly better than the CSW 2.5 in performance. The DD has the ability to output the really fine “noise” details from road textures or loss of grip. Both wheelbases are fantastic and have had zero issues w my CSW. The CSW was sooo good for a belt wheel. It’s an amazing piece of sim equipment too!

    • @KyleSpoor
      @KyleSpoor  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’ve never tried the CSW 2.5 but after reading this I wish I did hahah. Thanks for checking out the video dude 😄

  • @peterenis4752
    @peterenis4752 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Im probably gonna buy it when black friday kick in, but I will add some fan to cool it.

    • @KyleSpoor
      @KyleSpoor  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nice dude! You won’t be disappointed! I don’t use a fan with mine and I’ve never had it get hot enough to worry 😄

    • @tj_el_jefe8541
      @tj_el_jefe8541 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A fan isn't needed it doesn't get that hot at all. I have the GT DD Pro so I can use it with any system, had a few issues but was self inflicted (don't use a USB extension). You won't be disappointed with it at all, I plan on getting the Formula V2.5 X wheel on Black Friday myself.

  • @sombrero4316
    @sombrero4316 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    well you can play FH5 with it in compatibility mode, when the power button turns green. Except that then the game crashes randomly. An issue that hasn't been fixed in 6 months, happens with every fanatec setup. Someone said rolling back the firmware version fixed it but yeah....you can, technically, but actually can't...It's also possible to use vjoy driver but the FF sucked...so frustrating...

    • @KyleSpoor
      @KyleSpoor  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey dude! Yea I’ve heard there’s ways we can use vjoy and rolling back firmware. It’s strange to me that FH4 works fine still but FH5 doesn’t hahaha I guess we will just need to wait for for a to get it sorted properly so the game works out the box

  • @dazzle4416
    @dazzle4416 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    people with issues are self made, like being too rough when turning, having the torque too high constantly with maximum FFB and over tightening the QR which fair to say FANATEC tell you not to do, ive seen one user literally rip the wheel off the shaft because they were fighting with it too much, the other known problem is users tend to put it on a sim rig mount that's not strong so when turning the rig is moving causing more wear on the QR, so i think use it sensibly, and dont wrag it too much.
    with anything if you use it extremely and excessively it will break.
    ive had my unit a year and had no issues because i use it with a point in mind don't put the settings on too high and use a stable surface to mount it on.
    respect the fact everything breaks so take that bit extra care to prevent that.

  • @JohnnyEMatos
    @JohnnyEMatos 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I just got mine and it when it's turned on, even with the PC off, I can feel a slight static feeling on the wheel. This morning it was super rough and I could feel it while driving. Sometimes it goes away but I also feel like the center of the wheel feels weak, like if I go over kerbs in a straight line I can not feel them as much, but if I turn I do. The worst part is that I'm outside the US and can't RMA because shipping it back is more expensive than the wheel itself. FML

    • @KyleSpoor
      @KyleSpoor  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh damn dude! I’ve never heard that before! Have you spoken to fanatec at all about it??

    • @JohnnyEMatos
      @JohnnyEMatos 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@KyleSpoor I'm waiting for them to answer but I have extremely low hopes of them being helpful given my situation

    • @KyleSpoor
      @KyleSpoor  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hmmm I’m not too sure what fanatecs customer support is like cause I’ve never had to deal with it but hopefully they can help you out in some way!

    • @JohnnyEMatos
      @JohnnyEMatos 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@KyleSpoor so today it is feeling buttery smooth and sttong, I hope it stays that way!

    • @KyleSpoor
      @KyleSpoor  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Let’s hope bro!!

  • @Mr.Grumps565
    @Mr.Grumps565 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Any issues to this day?

  • @vocnys
    @vocnys 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Just a tiny correction, the cable that you use to plug your shifter/pedals to the wheel base is not proprietary, it's a standard RJ12 telephone cable :)
    ~ Vyrd

    • @KyleSpoor
      @KyleSpoor  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      THANKYOU!! Haha I appreciate you 😅

  • @toastytoast1890
    @toastytoast1890 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Was gonna go to bed. Sleep can wait

    • @KyleSpoor
      @KyleSpoor  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hahaha you’re a mad man 😂 what did you think of the vid??

    • @toastytoast1890
      @toastytoast1890 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@KyleSpoor I agree with everything that was said. Though I haven’t had my CSL DD in the same time frame, everything here is accurate, with one exception: I always have to use the set pin with my wheel, otherwise the QR will move a bit whenever I hit the middle of the steering angle and go back and forth. The set pin keeps it in place with no movement, but this is fine because I only use one rim

    • @KyleSpoor
      @KyleSpoor  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ahhh gotcha!

  • @JohnnyEMatos
    @JohnnyEMatos 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just got mine and it when it's turned on, even with the PC off, I can feel a slight static feeling on the wheel. This morning it was super rough and I could feel it while driving. Sometimes it goes away but I also noticed that the center of the wheel feels weak, like if I go over kerbs in a straight line I can not feel them as much, but if I turn I do. Also driving is a straight line feels bland, unlike what people report. I can only feel the bumpscorrectly when I turn The worst part is that I'm outside the US and can't RMA because shipping it back is more expensive than the wheel itself. FML

    • @GregClarke07
      @GregClarke07 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What sim are you running and are you running 5 nm or 8 nm?

    • @JohnnyEMatos
      @JohnnyEMatos 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@GregClarke07 8nm in ACC, AC and AMS2

    • @ThisOldTechGuy
      @ThisOldTechGuy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I suspect your issue is power related. The CSL DD draws a LOT of current and needs to be thoroughly grounded. try a different outlet or a known grounded one. Make sure drivers are up to date and such.
      I drive the MP4 in Assetto on Monza '66 and get a real workout fighting to keep the car on the track and have never experienced what you describe. Hopefully not a bad unit. They are pretty tough.

    • @JohnnyEMatos
      @JohnnyEMatos 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ThisOldTechGuy I think it was something wrong with the firmware. Used a beta motor firmware, which didn't work, but when I reverted to the default firmware from my driver package it was gone. However, now my pedals go to 100% with the slightest touch, but I just have to press them fully every time I turn on the wheel so it goes down to 0% on its travel back.

    • @ThisOldTechGuy
      @ThisOldTechGuy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JohnnyEMatos even after recalibrating in the fanatec control software? You can manually set all pedal travel.

  • @mikcampbell1098
    @mikcampbell1098 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kyle I have done the same with my DD Pro way too many times also. I work from home so at least I notice usually with 8 hours.
    Nice recap on the unit

    • @KyleSpoor
      @KyleSpoor  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha I wish they could implement a auto shut off when the wheel stays unused for an hour or something. And thanks dude I’m glad you liked it!

  • @gokrisgaming
    @gokrisgaming ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have they updated the firmware to play forza yet?

    • @KyleSpoor
      @KyleSpoor  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah they have! I actually have a video on which driver it is 😄

  • @pisztipiszti
    @pisztipiszti ปีที่แล้ว +1

    IT works for Forza horizon for me

  • @iDTecKt
    @iDTecKt 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is the 8nm to much to mount on a desk?

    • @ClipofTheDayy
      @ClipofTheDayy 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Depends on your desk. If you have a sturdy wooden desk then it's possible.

  • @dreweboygaming
    @dreweboygaming 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can you play forza yet?? I literally bought a DD to play on the new forza Motorsport 😭

  • @L3nny666
    @L3nny666 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    why can't you play forza with it?

  • @benpobke6567
    @benpobke6567 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What's the delivery time like for fanatec in aus

    • @KyleSpoor
      @KyleSpoor  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey dude!! I preordered my CSL DD and it got delivered at the peak of Covid here in Melbourne so its a little hard to say, but I have ordered things since and it’s normally a pretty quick turnaround 😄

    • @benpobke6567
      @benpobke6567 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@KyleSpoor cheers mate just ordered csl dd coming from 15nm simagic alpha doesn't work on console and a lot of messing around for pc games gonna be nice having a complete plug and play

    • @KyleSpoor
      @KyleSpoor  ปีที่แล้ว

      Ahhhh yeah that’s such a good point!

  • @marco84998
    @marco84998 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I use mine with forza 5 u just have to put in pc comp mode de yellow ligth I think

  • @maximum9065
    @maximum9065 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can’t play Forza Horizon 5 with any of my 3 wheelbases. They all cause the game to crash on pc. I really wish Microsoft would fix the problem.

    • @KyleSpoor
      @KyleSpoor  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey dude!! I had the same issue with the CSL DD but I recently got it to work! If you go to my recent videos you’ll see it there!! Really easy to fix! Are you using a csl dd??

    • @maximum9065
      @maximum9065 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@KyleSpoor pretty much, it’s the PlayStation model, the DD Pro. I’ll look for your video and see if it helps. Thanks!

    • @KyleSpoor
      @KyleSpoor  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ahhh gotcha! Let me know how you go!! Hopefully the fix works for the DD pro as well!!

  • @captainjackau
    @captainjackau 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How many times..
    More than it should have... LOL 😆 🤣 😂 😹

    • @KyleSpoor
      @KyleSpoor  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😂😂 it’s a sad truth haha. What did you think of the vid?

    • @captainjackau
      @captainjackau 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@KyleSpoor if I ever have the kind of money to buy a TR and Fanatec setup, I would buy just off your recommendation Kyle..
      Love you bro!!!!

    • @KyleSpoor
      @KyleSpoor  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Haha oh dude I really appreciate you! ♥️ love your face dude