Looking at the new Fanatec CSL DD in 3 different simulators. What does a 'sim racer' think?
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Congrats on 50k mate!
Thank you Will 😁
@@davecamyt csl dd give away?
@@hmangaming4799 nice try haha
Congrats on 50,000. That's a lot of us following you!
I can only dream of having one of these wheels. I watch videos just to see the enjoyment they bring to people and go back to my Logitech g29 at the end of every day lol. Great video. Thanks for all you do for the sim racing world.
Update, I saved like crazy and within 4 weeks I got to purchase my own Fanatec setup. Was suppose to ship out on the 19th but due to China being on lock down, I have to wait until May 12th for it to arrive to Fanatec.
@@kevinpowell6801 I was going to tell you, switch to the T300 😅
@@THESHADOW97139 do you believe the T300 is better than the CSL DD?
@@kevinpowell6801 Of course not !!!
Comparaison is impossible .
But fanatec's dd has some problems since its release...
@@THESHADOW97139 yeah a lot of the problems I have seen is the quick realize life breaking, The c clamp not being rotated in the proper positing and not greasing the shaft(that sounded wrong) haha
I ordered a Simagic Alpha mini and I am waiting for it to arrive. After your comments about the DD, I am starting to think I made the correct choice.
Congrats on the 50K!! You really deserve it.
That Alpha mini is a way better choice
Yeah but the price isn’t even comparable...
Congrats on the milestone dave, well deserved, genuine passion for our hobby and valued part of the community.
Thank you for doing feedback on different simulators instead of a general review!
50K and racing towards 100K. Well done Dave!!
I was one of many who made the pre-order move, so anxiously awaiting its arrival. You just made me more confident with my decision to go with the 8K boost power.
I bought the standard 5 Nm and lately got a 300W variable PSU to get the 8 Nm and the difference is massive! I recommend everybody to buy this with the180W PSU, it is ridiculously better.
Is it possible to use your own psu?
@@joshuadelellis852 You can kook for others PSU and adapt them , since it connects with a 4pin connector.
I got mine from a electric engineer I know for 40€, but it is always ideal to use the official gear just in case.
@@joshuadelellis852 this voids the warranty unfortunately
I will be coming from the CSW 2.5 which is already a bloody good wheel. I really like that you are using it in this setup with the mclaren wheel, since i will be running it the exact same way. I actually love it that you are comparing it to the dd1, gives us insight how close it really is to a much more expensive wheel.
As im running the CSW on 60% in acc, this should probs be adequote, even with some headroom in mind :)
my main gaim is acc on a v2.5 with a mclaren and at 60 aswell and i am so curious
@@kennymartinez774 How funny, just got my shipping confirm for this bad BWOY
@@Bob-huisbaas i passed on first wave ,second and third ,ordered today at lunch with boost pack .waiting on date now
Congrats on 50k, Dave. Nice job shooting the intro with the counter in the sweet spot!
Think I will go for this then. I do a lot of track days, which is very expensive - this will be my first wheel base.
I was undecided between this and the alpha mini ... and i chose the VRS ... very happy with my decision (the wallet a little less)!
anyway, thanks for your considerations .. congratulations on the 50k sub!
I got mine yesterday and I was excited like a small kid at X-mas time, but after three hours with it I am honestly dissapointed.
It is noticably weaker than my CLS Elite PS/4, even with the boost kit.
If I press FFB test button in the Fanatec configuration software with the CLS ELite, it shakes the wheel so violently that I need two hands to hold it and I am litterally worried it will damage itself. But with the CLS DD I can easily hold the wheel with one hand when set to 100%. It feels like 50% of the CLS Elite.
As for driving it the CLS DD feels slightly more precise and refined, but the overall feeling does not in any way impress me. Only thing is the absence of the FFB deadzone on the CLS Elite near the top position. That's nice. But on the other hand I get so much more power from the Elite that I litteraly have to fight the wheel when set to max FFB.
I'll give anothe try today but if I cant get more power out of it, it's going back.
You sure you have the boost kit?
What did you end up doing?
Another great video mate. So many other videos go into specific specs and build etc. Which is fine but great just to have a video that gets to the point. What's it like to sim on. Cheers mate!
Sounds like they should've made the base force 8NM and just made the wheel $50 more expensive.
Top sim racers want fidelty not force
@@Dibbdroid more power means more dynamic range means more fidelity. 5nm isn’t remotely enough power to emulate a real car in the slightest.
@@gulfcoaster210 Top sim racers want fidelty not force
@@Dibbdroid did u even read my comment?? I mean seriously, just repeating a utter garbage trope from a decade ago isn’t making a point. Most top sim racers exceed the torque capability of the csl dd with the boost kit. More force equals the capacity for more fidelity.
@@gulfcoaster210 most sim racers do the opposite of what you say but your ego knows best, enjoy being with yourself. Hence fidelity etc. When life gets too hard, reach for your keyboard and click away like you're some sort of knowledge god, or in your case another village idiot gone global thanks to the internet
You were able to stay on the limit longer with the 8Nm power pack. I’m sold lol
You will love it. My 35" curved monitor is due tonight, CSL DD with the boost kit and club sport V2 will be here late September, can't wait to add them to my DOF H3.
Coming from 3- 27" curved curved monitors and a G29. Big jump but it's my gift to myself for turning 65.
It's crazy really. 3 weeks ago I wanted to get back to sim racing and just driving in general (AC mod maps and ets2.) I was about to click buy g29. Then the Fanatec CSL went on sale.
I had to buy it.
No regrets.
Although I definitely feel like it is a proper 8nm Wheelbase.
The 5nm is good for starters as you save money
But 8nm is where its at!
This is exactly the type of perspective I've been waiting to see. I'll be moving to the CSL DD from the CSL Elite when they make a PlayStation compatible version. I know the nm are similar but I'm really looking forward to the detail that a DD provides over belt driven. Thanks for the insight Dave and congrats on 50k...
Had the same thoughts but feel like it'll be a very small upgrade but rather expensive. If I'm upgrading it'll be to a podium DD wheel.
@@KinGzeDK Actually if you are already in the Fanatec eco system with the CSL Elite this DD wheelbase with the 8nm boost kit for only $480 U.S. is absolutely a deal and great upgrade as you are moving into the fidelity offered by the DD system and the DD1 upgrade will run you $1199 U.S.
At a $720 lower price point than the DD1 the CSL DD is an awesome way to move into DD territory!
Remember that if you are already in the Fanatec eco system the $350-$480 depending on version will be the total cost for the upgrade to DD!
I just got the "order moved to warehouse processing and will be shipping soon" e-mail from Fanatec on my wave one 8nm CSL DD preorder.
@@billwiley7216good advice, I'd think it would be a no brainer to upgrade to CSL DD from a CSL Elite seeing how the resale value of the Elite is very close to the cost of the CSL DD base version. After selling the Elite base it would pay for the CSL DD base, and then if you wanted to buy the 8nm boost kit it would be $130 on top of that, and you'd gain Direct Drive and +3 nm compared to the Elite. My CSL DD arrives tomorrow 08/18/21, I'm in SoCal and Fanatec ships from there. Can't wait to get it on my GT1-EVO. I got the McLaren GT3 V2 and the CSL Pedals to try out with it.
Pretty much what the other "tubers" are saying. I currently have the CSL Elite 1.1 and have been very happy with it. The strength feels fine to me as it's the only FFB wheelbase i've experienced, but i know if i had a DD1 i would probably only use half the strength or less. Due to this when considering the CSL DD I was initially thinking I could get away with the 5 Nm, and upgrade later if I felt I wanted/needed to. That said, the fidelity and feel seems much greater with the 8 Nm, according to yourself and others. Therefore I surmise my decision to order the "Big Baby DD" the other night was a correct decision. Thanks for making me feel content about my purchase. Now just 3 months to wait!!! Great vid as always young man!! 😁😁
Great to see your approach to it. And I'm glad i preordered 8nm version :)
Great video. I've been on the fence about switching for quite a while now. I think the CSL DD has me sold on it. My TM setup has served me pretty well, can't really knock it for what it is, but I've been wanting more detail for a bit now.
There will be a thrustmaster DD base system u do not need to change ur eco system
@@legi0n3r source?
I race on PC and PlayStation so I'm on this as soon as the PS version is available.
So what they did was put a cheap power pack in the box that wasnt suitable then charge you stupid money for the the other power pack that everyone says you need so not as cheap as they make out. They put a sub par power pack in the box when really it should of come it by default.
Still great for people who dont have the money for a dd1 or simucube but really fanatec.
Side note the power pack is the same one used on the Clubsport v2.5 just a different connection, im referring to the more power pack so fanatec have these already so its not hard to see what that they did here.
Congratulations on the 50k Dave really happy for you brother
I'm running a CSW 2.5. Is this an upgrade? I have one incoming with the boost pack but I'm still not 100%.
Csw bases are belt and wheels aren't they? So while maybe not so much with the torque, most reviews I saw are saying that any DD wheel will be an upgrade in terms of fidelity of detail.
Belt and gears I mean.
So what they did is a 8Nm DD base being sold for under 500E.
Thanks again Dave. This was a very useful review to show the difference in how the CSL DD does with 3 different sims. I'm glad ACC came out on top out of the 3, as ACC and AM2 are the only sims I own. Would be nice to hear your thoughts how it does in AM2 with boost kit and without.
Great video Evad. The million $$ question that I and probably many other sim racers contemplate, is what would the actual car that has been selected truly feel like if we were driving on the selected track and conditions. And what would that equate to in terms of NM's and other misc FFB settings on a DD wheel. I would guess that very high NM FFB settings (15+ MN) could be unrealistic as compared to the real experience in most modern race cars, especially at speed. But since the vast majority of sim racers, myself included will never get behind the wheel of a track car on a track, we should then adjust our wheel bases to the immersion settings that gives us the perceived "feel" that we want or think the real car would be. My $ is on the CSL DD 8 NM. As in many devices "headroom" or lack of it can make or break the desired experience. Peace
Great video Dave👍👏 Looks like I made the right decision, with this CSL DD, plus 8nm power pack. That’s some savvy business planning, from Fanatec; to make DD affordable, for a large swath of sim racers; game changer for sure.
I thought I recognized that track... Summit point
Good and complete review Dave, now I need to start a crowfunding to update my poor g27 ;-). Cheers from Barcelona.
great review. lots of effort to put this together. thanks!
Having looked at the CSL DD as a replacement for my Thrustmaster TMX, it's good to know that the 180 power pack is the better option, it is however a shame there is no bundle option ( wheel & base) as the £450 soon becomes twice as much when adding a wheel ( unless you take the McLaren option @ £199) but if you prefer GT3 or formula 1 or other open wheels that use that style of wheel it's looking like a pretty good option all round, £450 + £199 = £650 and for what appears to be a pretty good economy upgrade, the real problem is that the resale of your old wheel is going to be much harder now that a good DD wheel base has entered at the mid price range.
Hey, i thought i'd share some of my thoughts.
I currently have a G27, and idk about the TMX but my G27 is not that great force feedback wise. It mostly just vibrates and rattles but it's pretty weak (2.3NM). All of these reviewers come from higher budget wheels (DD1, DD2), proper rigs, etc. It's pretty logical for them to say the 5NM "Isn't enough", but i think that really depends where you come from.
So i think it really depends on perspective. I'm personally gonna wait for reviews of G27 users who upgrade to the 5NM CSL DD, that's gonna put more accurate review for people like me. Plus, i don't know how well the table clamp holds up with the 8NM version.
@@neutraliz3246 good point, not all of us can desk mount or having top of the line cockpits
Damn! I wish you _were_ a gear reviewer. Useful info here, not just opinion or unexplained prejudice.
congrats to the 50k milestone💪
Will arrive tomorrow but can only get back home Friday 🤦♂️ hyped af
How fast did you bolt the DD1 back onto your rig???
Well done on 50K Dave. Well deserved.
I'm going from G920 to 5nm - I'm sure it will be an substantial change but by all accounts not as profound as the 8nm. Oh, well - lets see.
You'll be happy I promise 😁
I'm gonna upgrade to the 5nm as well from a G27, i think it would be night and day but let me know :D
@@davecamyt And I am so happy!!
how is the 5nm, ive been thinking about getting it
@@jxc7343 It is great - I have it set at 60% in game as it is still too strong for me but I'm 70 yrs old and don't have a lot of upper arm strength. 😮
Coming from an old DFGT .. I think it's gonna be good enough ^^!
Thank you for this review !
I had one of those for 10 years. It's good for what it is but you're gonna love the upgrade!
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Good disclaimer at the beginning!
No battle needed of iRacing vs acc, but, the 488, is also the most numb car in iracing for testing feedback. This is a great entry level dd as dd's are very pricy kits.
The same thing I was thinking . The 488 GT3 con IRACING Is almost the worst car in terms of ffb
Try the Nextgen Nascar lol
congrats on 50k dave
Cool to see how it looks on the RSR-21.
I like the video, and I can appreciate the desire to support the people who support you. But I question a company who governs their product with a special power brick. The sim racing governor brought to you by Fanatec.
At 4:44 the FFB strength is set to 57Nm, but the DD1 only goes to 8Nm max with the boost back, and 5Nm without. So what's that about?
So that wobble you get at 5:14, that wouldn't happen in a real car, it would just centre itself. So how do you fix that?
The wobble is the forces that you feel through the wheel. That doesn't happen when you're holding the rim. The FFB strength works the opposite way, so the higher the number the lower 👍
Congrats on 50k
Thanks Andy 😁
Dave, Not sure if you ever used the Fanatec 2.5 base , which is what i use. Is it worth it from the 2.5 ? Thanks :)
Yes I had a 2.5. Yes it's much better, even more so with the boost kit.
Dave, in your opinion, is it worth upgrading from a CSL Elite to the CSL DD with power pack? Is there a big difference between the two?
damn you said its comparable to the Thrustmaster in FFB, looks like im staying with my Thrustmaster for now then haha! Thanks!
If you buy it, buy it with the 8Nm power pack for sure - Fanatec will be happy with this review 😎
I’m not sure after factoring in the 8Nm and a rim it’s not worth saving up for a few more months and picking up a DD1, which you may end up doing after a couple of years anyhow?
You would also need a wheel with the podium so that cost remains equal regardless of the base you choose. The dd1 is still $5-600 more expensive than the 8nm csl dd.
Nice one Dave! As always ;-)
Be on the look out for an angry Mr Muscle looking to have a word with you about ACC FFB.
I feel this was marked as a budget wheel but when u add a wheel the pedals and of course the 8nm pack it no longer becomes budget does it ?????
It was never marketed as a budget option. It was always marketed as having a high performance per dollar in the mid-range.
One thing at a time. I'm happy to hack my G29 pedals to keep using them while I spend what I anticipate to be around 600 quid for the DD base and a basic rim. A lot of money for me but at least it's in the realm of what I can stretch to in comparison the the upper range kit.
Load cell pedals will make you faster than the wheelbase will. A used csl elite (after the csl dd is readily available) would be an option to get you a better base and pedals than what you have now.
@@aaronjacobtrent Agreed about the load cell pedals, at least with respect to laptime.
DD wheels do add a lot of immersion, of course.
orderd the csl dd and mclaren gt3 wheel from your link so will help you out a little also got a better price for myself that way
Thank you, really appreciate it. You'll love it 😁
Seems just enough for most people with the 8nm kit, quickly approaches $1000 CAD without pedals which is still a pretty good deal being the csl kit cost that much. Congrats on 50k too! I smell a great giveaway 😉
This and a ralley wheel would be about 500$
Congrats on 50k mate l;)
Thank you 😁
I still use a g27. so I have pre ordered this. new pedals, gear stick. so I should see a massive difference now.
Yes I have a G29. Dave isn't blown away by the FFB strength even of the basic pack but it's 5nm whereas the G29/27 is 2.5 so double what we're used to. And at that rate I don't even use full strength on my wheel because I'm afraid of the gears and belts breaking! As I'm sure you know the Logitech wheel can sound as if it's rattling itself to pieces sometimes. Which is not even possible on a DD wheel.
@@goodlookinouthomie1757 I ordered the boost pack so 8nm should be a big improvement.
Good review Dave, thanks a lot. I’m looking to upgrade from the G29 and pedals. What load cell pedals would you recommend? Cheers.
I enjoyed the content and I’m the ‘guy’ looking to upgrade in future. This video answered the questions I wanted to know without all the details and breakdown of the components used! The one question I do have is buying the the DD1 with the booster and then additional cost of the wheel is fine but would I still need to buy pedals?
Would you think that iRacings force feedback may have more strength with irFFB?
Dave was using iRacing's suggested auto force feedback strength. You can of course set it manually higher than that if you choose. I use iRFFB but it makes no difference to strength - it is all about getting a better/different feel than iRacing's own FFB.
Preordered it today with WRC wheel and thé new pedal (waiting for thé load cell test). Mounted on a GT omega apex. I will see what it does as an upgrade from my G27.
sitting in the cart waiting for me to man up and push the buy
On the minimum FFB in RaceRoom it said > 5nm 0% and you went to 4% maybe why it felt a bit numb initially?
I tried it will all different kinds of settings in RaceRoom, felt very similar
Another review that says the 5NM isn't enough. Glad I went 8NM! Can't wait for mine next month
Same here looking forward to getting mine and putting the G29 back in its box 😀
Well pretty much all reviewers come from a DD1 or DD2 etc. None of them come from a G27 or a Trustmaster TMX. I have a G27 and it has like 2.3NM. For me the 5NM would be more than enough. But of course, if you currently have a CSL Elite or a DD1 then the 5NM makes no sense.
Most reviewers forget to mention that they're used to very high quality wheels. I'm still waiting for a review of someone coming from the G27/G29.
I've had a G29 and the upgrade would be immense 👍
@@neutraliz3246 CSL elite here which is 5-6nm, on a wheelstand so I thought sticking with 5nm woild be the safest option. Hopefully updated drivers will help with the lack of weight. Also let's not forget the elephant in the room here which is that you are paying 130 bucks for what is in my case the exact same power brick I already own. Something which should value 30 or 40 bucks. Fanatec is thus making all their profit by charging you 100 more just for a modified PSU :D
@@misterdog7 Yes i agree
I want to start in this world of sim racing, as a sim racer do you recommend this base? Obviously I will go for the 8NM version but is this enough? I mean the difference between this and the DD1 and DD2 is justified for the extra money that you need to spend? Thanks for your video, really helpful!
I love you and your content but tbh boosted media made such a detailed review of it over 2 hours long in total they deserve the commission this time around when I get to order one :)
Dave I don't know if I missed it. DD1 or Csldd ?
Oh and grats on the 50k subs !
I didn't say but I'd rather have my DD1. But, it's more than double the price.
@@davecamyt thanks. They are not bad second hand. It will be a € 200 premium for a dd1 + formula v2. 3 month old. I think this is a good deal.
can wait to buy it been using the g29 sense it came out im at a point that i feel i cant get any faster with it.... going to upgrade the pedals firts because the g29 pedals are a huge limit for me.
Great vid Dave, I'll get one eventually but I'm in no rush to replace my CSL V2.5
But I've only just notice you're on a wooden frame, when did that happen and why, just curious?
I've had it since January. It's the Rock Solid Rigs RSR21 👍
I was sent it to have a look at and loved it 😁
The one dislike is from the marketer who decided to remove the power pack so they could advertise the lower price point.
I'm surprised you didn't say you'd prefer it to your DD1. Some of the other youtubers out there have ditched their DD1's (or so they say), in favor of this. Would you say there is actually some possibility of switching over from the DD1, to this for good ? Maybe after some extensive testing ?
No, although the CSL DD is superb with the boost pack, I prefer the higher forces on my DD1 👍
@@davecamyt Good to know Dave !
Could you do this again on acc with the fanatec recommended settings? And show the clipping? I find the ff to be super week on acc and have to have it at 80% or there’s too much clipping.
Im really interested in getting this. Ive worked it out It will be around 580 euro for the base, wheel, desk clamp and thrustmaster adapter for my T3PA peddles to USB.
I could upgrade to the booster pack later.
Didn’t even think about adapters!! I have a thrustmaster setup and I’m very close to pulling the trigger on the fanatec F1 esports bundle…it would be nice to save some money and not have to purchase new pedals!!
Just wondering... How do sim racers know how much force feedback is the right amount for cars they have never been in? Everyone seems to think that the most power is the best but I wonder if that is actually true... genuinely asking out of curiosity
I just go off how cars feel that I've actually driven. I'm old enough to remember my old MK2 escort which had no powered steering. Race cars though I wouldn't have a clue 😁
Great review Dave, So thanks heaps. One query though mate, would you recommend upgrading from the CSW 2.5 to the CSL DD, is the extra detail worth it given they have the same strength (with boost pack)? Cheers Andy
Yes I've had a 2.5 and the CSL DD is an upgrade for sure. The extra detail with a DD wheel is worth it imo 👍
@@davecamyt Thanks Dave I really appreciate your reply. I now have my order in, unfortunately in Australia the wait for stock is 3 months 😔
Hi Dave thanks for the review. Any guesses on performance gain over belt driven wheel? Would it improve lap times?
You can feel much more than a belt driven wheel, so over time I'd say you'd be much more consistent 👍
Fanatec is playing it dirty in my opinion. Selling a device everyone thinks of being too weak, then sell a "boost kit" just containing a powersupply for way too much money. They should have put the bigger power supply with it in the first place but they seem to want to look cheaper (to attract lower end users) then they actually want to sell it for. Thanks for the review!
It's standard marketing. They want more people to buy into the Fanatec ecosystem and thus gain more market share within the simracing gear market
Weak? It's €350 you can't expect much more torque
Thanks for the review but this wheel should rather be in comparison with G29 or T300...also, you are driving the Honda not the Lexus in ACC 😉
I’d believe him if he wasent an ex cop 😂
‘Fanatec never paid me.. they just sent me free stuff’
😂😂😂 hilarious
Coming from a g29 do you think the 5nm pack would be enough? I want a little bit of weight to the wheel but I don’t want to spend the extra money for the 8nm pack. At least not right away
For comparison your g29 has 2.1Nm so it is over double the power
T500 is a belt drive isn’t it? There must be a difference, no slack due to no belt? I’m just guessing. Currently I see this as my upgrade path from g29. Can you use g29 pedals?
I have my G29 pedals connected to a Bodnar USB cable, which turns them in to a separate peripheral. You can do the same with the 6-speed shifter if you have one.
Can I use this to play Xbox or ps5? Thank you
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I was trying to save some money but you convinced me to get the power pack oh well…… sorry wallet
Dave please answer. Why don't you use IRFFB. Want to know your answer I'm afraid it will break my t300
I'm not keen on the effect it has on the ffb. Feels too artificial to me
Thanks for the feedback back I like it but the last time I used it my t300 burnt up. Had to by a new base. Going to give it another go when I get my csl dd in November.
What are your thoughts on full motion like the DOF H3
I've never tried motion. Hopefully I'll get to try one at the sim racing expo next month 👍
1st 😁
So did you find it runs hotter at 8nm's, being fanless?
It's warmer but certainly not hot or anything to worry about
Thanks and Can you help with this,...... I want to buy a button box that you show in your channel (the custom sim engineering) for dd1.
Can you check please if it can added to csl DD and don't disturb for the (on/off) button. Because I want to order it but I'm not sure if it compatible or not. Thanks for the videos
You can order left or right side. I'd go for the left to make sure. I think it would be covered on the right 👍
Yes the problem is I like the right side, but the problem is the (on/off) button. I contact with the web site and they will make a new model for CSL DD in chistmas time, maybe is better wait until new model is coming. Thanks a lot Dave and congrats for 50k very nice and very high quality content in your channel.
There is no iracing VS ACC FFB battle. ACC is better no discussion needed.
It's subjective
Is the DD1 worth the price difference between the two?
I'd say no unless you like really strong ffb.
Would you recommend it without boost kit?
If you're coming from the likes of a G29 ora lower nm belt driven then terms 👍
Appreciate the honest, no bullshit info here. A game changer for 399 Euros it aint. Might as well say HP does game changer printers for 29 Euros and then charge you 30 Euros for 5ml of ink.
I'm setting up interviews with a wide range of sim racers, not sure if you would be interested or have time but let me know. I have a set of general questions I am including in each interview and obviously whatever organic conversation that happens is very welcome. Either way, happy Sim-racing! :)
Depends when it is Douglas. Send me a DM somewhere and we'll try and sort something 👍
I've heard it said that iRacing has the best FFB if you have a strong wheel. If you have a cheaper wheel, literally any other sim feels much better. I haven't tried a stronger wheel in any sim, though I can believe that iRacing would feel good. But iRacing definitely takes some getting used to on a cheaper wheel.
RF2 absolutely destroys any other sim's ffb. Too bad the rest of the game is a mess.
Even Live for Speed is better than iRenting and it's 18 years old.
@theonlyegg stop being broke
Where you from ?
Noth East of England 👍
Can you mount these straight to a table/
Yes but it is not really recommended
@@netcald991 why is it not recommended?
@@ohcy_ because a lot of the feedback is lost as table mounting isn't very secure
@@netcald991 arghh shit because I haven’t got a rig an I ordered CSL dd for my desk
@@ohcy_ should be fine, still a big upgrade from most other bases or better than a controller or whatever you're coming from
a one sided look at this from the road racer. no dirt ,no oval and not even f1.come on dave you can do better !
cool wheelbase, but €700 or so is not something I'm willing to pay for the pleasure. I'm perfectly content with my TX base (replacement for my dead T300), and covid nonsense aside, those are €230 wheels or so. I doubt the CSL DD is 3x as good . But if you're happy to spend that much money, then of course I would say go and get the CSL DD. I'm sure it offers a clearly superior experience to the T300 and similar wheels.
T300/TX has about half the strength, plus DD will likely be a lot smoother and quicker, while also getting some additional details due to lack of belt dampening. But T300/TX are still good value wheelbases for sure.
Except it is 3x as good. It's way more than 3x as good.
Thrashmaster wheel bases suck and there cheap ass rims 🤣 even fanatec is junk
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So it will be worth getting this in replacement for the club sport 2.5 base?
I was in this boat as well. CSW 2.5 is a great base and I love it - but it IS belt driven and we do miss a lot of detail / fluidity because of it. I ended up getting a full size DD because the kid in me talked me into it. I was like, "if I'm gonna upgrade, I'm gonna UPGRADE!" I heard talks of a Clubsport DD in the works so maybe wait for that if you're on the fence.