Better AutoLevel on Ender 3 Neo using E-Leveler
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 มิ.ย. 2024
- Chuck shows you how to get better bed leveling on your Autolevel 3D printer such as the Ender 3 Neo using the Filament Friday E-Leveler.
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I’ve had a lot of people ask how to use the E-Leveler with an Autolevel machine. This video answered that question.
Chep, I wouldn't care if it was a repeat. You have been a lifesaver to me so many times over the years. I would still be fumbling around now in Cura if it wasn't for your advice. Always top stuff.
Imo people providing free content that is useful for you in general, shouldn't be called out like this even if is true that the video has a comercial aspect in it. I mean if you don't like it don't say it, nobody cares about your feelings.
I guess lots of people don't use brain.
I honestly can’t imagine trying to level all 4 corners without it. One of the first things I bought after setting up my Ender 3. Might need a backup just in case I lose the 1st…😁
Will this work on an ender 3 V2
The way I've been doing it for a while is I use the Bed Level Visualizer plugin for octoprint. After homing all axes, I initialize autoleveling with the plugin, then I get a 3D visualization of the height of each probing point. The plugin also tells you how much you need to turn each knob to get it level. After 2 times, it's usually perfectly level
I level it using a similar method, I did use the visualiser method through OctoPrint but realised I wasn't using any of its other features and tying up a Raspberry Pi I could use elsewhere. I have as as an alternative created a standalone app that displays the measurements from the bed level sensor points similar to the info on the colour lcd screen on a Neo V2.
I honestly love your bed leveling tool. It awesome to see how you managed to do a product out of such a simple yet useful circuit!
Thanks.
Advice worked a treat!
Using Ender 3 Neo in the UK.
Aside from some slightly different menus, the overall advice and instructions worked great. I purposely tried a manual bed level, with then an auto level only. The E-leveller would have been a nice luxury for the manual levelling, but I didn't mind a bit of back and forth, I spent perhaps an extra couple of minutes per knob.
The result was a birds nest.
Once I added in the step to calibrate the Z offset, prints worked first great.
Thanks for sharing.
Your videos are all well put together. Thanks for making videos. You helped me a ton so far. Much appreciated, and thank you again.
This came at the perfect time. Got my auto leveler Wednesday and having issues! This will work out great! Thanks!
I appreciate this information! I'm going to run this through my Extended ender 3 to see if I can get it perfectly leveled!
Thank you for this!! I recently upgraded my EV2, Sprite extruder, Dual Z motors, CR Touch, light bar, flex plate, and bed springs. I struggled getting the bed level, not having this issue before. I bought your product and WHA-LA!!! This will be my standard to-go tool when leveling.
Happy purchaser of the Real E-Leveler.
You're missing a step. If you have set your E-steps, you just lost that setting when you reset the printer to factory settings, so make a note of your E-steps first and enter it again before you save the new configuration.
Good point. I should have mentioned it. But most users who are new to this are just trying to get a good bed level and probably haven’t changed E-Steps yet anyway.
i made one with a copper pcb, battery holder, resister and switch. I need to make the plaster end still. Simple but great idea.
Good morning,
Possible to see the manipulation on an elegoo neptune 3 max?
Bed 420mmx420mm that would be very interesting and there are 6 adjustment knobs on the board.
Thank you for your great work !!!!
Thanks in advance for the response.
I bought my first ender 3 neo that came with auto bed level. Thinking it would make leveling easy for me. couldn't figure out how to use it. Returned it. Bought a ender 3 v2 and your e-leveler, and have been manually leveling. Have had no issues since then. This video would have made things very simple, but im happy with my v2
I’m gonna try this on an ender 3 V2 with a BL touch installed.. hopefully it works like chep said it would..
Appreciate all you do - I have a Creality CR-10 Smart Pro, I purchased your E-Leveler & am not sure how to use with this machine, it is a bit different from the E3v2 - Many thanks
I will have to buy one at this point it makes leveling the bed way easier and with less hassle or will try to make one myself
Just ordered version 2, I'm hoping this helps me get a better bed level. I wondering if these step can be updated for the newer Ender 3 v2 Neo since the interface is quite a bit different.
I think this woud be GREAT for an Sovol 04, dual heads??? Please make a video..
Hey chep how would i do this on and ender 3 s1 pro with cr touch
Appreciated !
I just used mriscoc professional firmware with my e3 v2
Hey I am having a problem with my ender 3 Neo the hot en that was on it plugged up with the boden tube issue so now I have a new hot end on it I leveled the bed and now I can’t get the printer to put down and thing on the bed it keeps not sticking I have cleaned the bed many 😢 times with alcohol but it won’t stick can you please help me thanks
I just received the version 1 bed lever. I have a Maker Select Plus 3D Printer 15711.
I trying to use your leveling tool and having a problem using it.
I have set my Z height to o.2mm and manual leveling.
Place the lever next to the nozzle and move the nozzle up with the built in move button, that’s too high to use the leveler.
Press the down move button and that’s too low to move the leveler.
Is there a way to move the z to the proper height to be able to use the leveler ?
I love my e-leveler... quick question though, when you say adjust, just till the light comes on. Do you mean just when it starts flickering on or on solid? I've always just adjusted until the led is solid.
That’s about the same so either works.
Do level settings and. Offsets done in basic (marlin) will they carry over to the touch screen in a dual TFT system
Don’t know.
I'm going to try this process. I don't use my ender 3 because I hate leveling, takes me so long to barely level it correctly. 😢
why does my Ender 3 just do a 9 point auto level with my CR touch? How can I do the 16 point auto level
Please, how can I do this with the Ender 3 S1?
Should the bed and/or nozzle be hot?
No. th-cam.com/video/MNVCDNW0RoU/w-d-xo.html
Would love to know how to use it with an ender 3 s1 pro using Sonic Pad. I have your leveler but have not been able to figure out how to use it with this setup and no one else has a video like that either. Love your show thanks again
I have already used on that printer with ease (though not with the sonic pad). I’ll put that video together.
Would love to see this done on a Ender 3 Max Neo
My menu settings look completely different than yours I don't have a probe z offset option under the motion tabs
Can you do a video on the ender 3 V2 with this device please
The original showed how I built it and at 4:00 I show how to use it on a V2. th-cam.com/video/715Xop79Sus/w-d-xo.html
Love my bed leveler. That said, it’s difficult to get centered under the nozzle. Do you have any suggestions for speeding up proper placement?
You don’t have to be perfect, just close.
Great channel Chuck Using your M25 file on my Ender 3 with touch pad from Creality and my filament is loose I have no button to push Any ideas? Thanks again Joining your club today
Have you tried the non M25 first?
Would there be any problems using the e-leveller (or the G-Code files) with Klipper, Chuck?
Haven’t tried it.
Can you use this with a Sonic Pad?
I know it’s a long shot but would love to see the E-Leveler on an Elegoo Neptune 3 Max. It works great on all my Ender 3s.
Have you tried the max size version of the GCode on that machine?
Do you think your E-Leveler Tool could help in leveling the bed of other 3D printers as well? Because I have a KingRoon KP3S 3.0, which comes without autoleveling and Z-Offset, and an Anycubic Kobra Neo.
It’s used on all kinds of printers so yes.
@@FilamentFriday that's a great news! Thanks 😄
I have a ended 3 v2 and your leveler. I just can’t get the corners in the back right.
The front right side ends up way to low from the nozzle . I thought if I adjust the switch on the side it would help but nope…😢
I tried for 4 days ugh
This might help: th-cam.com/video/dOrwAMFzGLg/w-d-xo.html
Mine turns the light on at five point three instead of five point one is that o k
hello i see your code say G1 Z5 not G1 Z5.7 may i know why
I just received and assembled my Ender 3 Neo, I do not have the restore defaults option. Any idea why?
No idea. That’s strange.
Can you do one for the ender 3 v2 please.
Ender 3 V2 doesn’t have autolevel so the existing GCode works. th-cam.com/video/ei7HbfuQd-s/w-d-xo.html
@@FilamentFriday i have the bltouch on mine.
Chuck is the the MVP of 3D printing, no doubt about it.
Can i buy this and get shipped to UK?
Yes, thru amazon but I’m told shipping is high.
As a newcomer to the world of 3D printing with an Ender Neo V1 is there a valid reason why it's not better to manually adjust the bed based on the values from the automatic bed levelling. Its measurements at the sensing points will be more accurate that trying to work out if a piece of paper has the same level of friction across the bed. This is the method I use, reading the measurement from the G29 command. I have now created an app to quickly display the levels in a easy to understand graphical format as the V1 does not display the mesh on the lcd.
How do you adjust then based on those readings?
Do you share the app anywhere?
What is the best way to get one of your E-Levelers in Europe? (Italy)
If it is possible at all.
You should be able to buy through amazon. Have you tried?
I have your elevel device but never got a G code file with it where do I get that from ender3
www.chepclub.com/electronic-bed-level-tool.html
Thanks for the tutorial, Chuck! 😊
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
I received my device today. The battery had been removed from the package? The battery will not stay in the holder on the device. I suspect that I received a defective returned device.
:ddd hustle
U have a patent for the leveler?
too late, there's many copies / plans all over the net (cough china cough)
It's an led, a resistor and a contact. Use digital calipers, you'll get a perfect level every single time.
Have to ask, but couldn’t you use the e-leveler instead of paper to set Z offset?
After home, you know that Z=0 is the probe trigger point. If you measure the thickness of the e-leveler and position the nozzle at the home position then bring it down to trigger the leveler, you then know the nozzle height above 0. Wouldn’t calculating the Z-offset then be a simple calculation?
I’d much rather use something with an LED indicator than using paper or a feeler gauge. Using a feeler gauge lets you set Z-offset regardless of feeler thickness with a little calculation? Why would the e-leveler not be the same?
Yeah, cant get it leveled on the Ender 3 V2.
Ran the G Code, actually makes it worse and it freezes my machine. Have to restart it everytime.
Did you modify your firmware, we have hundreds of V2 users leveling without issue.
So I havent updated the firmware. That may be the issue.
But the Gcode asks for me confirm before its actually finishes. If I click confirm thats when it freezes. If I let it finish, it doesnt.
I ran everything accordingly again and it worked.
Thanks for the suggestion.
Thanks CHEP.
You should remind people that if they have calibrated all stepper moters, and any other values they have changed from the default such as probe offsets, they need to be sure they have those values written down BEFORE they restore default settings in the printer
does this work with ender 3 pro
Yes
@@FilamentFriday ok thx but what size do i use im guessing ender 3 right
Yes. Ender 3 and Ender 3 Pro are the same size bed.
@@FilamentFriday ok thanks
Haven’t we already seen this commercial?
We have yes
But I forgive him and will happily watch it again 😊
ejc116 - This was new. I’ve had a lot of questions about how to use it on autolevel machines so I answered in a video.
Nice
👍
Doesn't using some firmware's bed-tramming negate the need for this E-Leveler? Letting the probe hit over 20+ points and showing you the +/- to adjust the bed by.
If that works for you and it operates that way then sure. But not all machines have that firmware.
@@FilamentFriday that firmware is available for basically every ender tho. If not trough marlin then trough klipper.
I don't like the idea of disabling the motors and moving the machine hand.
It's way too easy to accidentally move the z-axis. If you move it even a tiny bit, now your leveling is off.
I always leave the motors engaged and use g-code to drive the head to the 4 corners for leveling.
You could also move the nozzle through the x,y motion menu.
I will have to buy one of those. Although I actually skip using the auto leveling sensors on my printers that have them all together. I have never had much luck with them for some reason. I usually just level the bed via the four corners and be done with it. That has always given me the best leveling.
Although I do have three machines that actually run a auto z axis leveling for the x gantry before I check each corner. Two run the gantry to the top stop blocks at the top of the machine while one Idex from Tenlog has two switches at the bottom. They are basically my machines with dual z axis motors.
For all my printers I usually just set all four corners then tend to leave it alone for a while and only recheck them every other week or so. I also switched from springs to those silicone cushion spacers.
But
I can definitely see the value in your leveler and want to try it out. Maybe it'd make me have better luck with the auto leveling sensors. 😁
The auto-leveler on the Ender 3 s1 pro is crap. When I use it I'm never level, when I just manually level and leave it there, it's perfect.
I’m working on a video for that as well. This (similar) procedure works well.
It is happening with my ender neo too, I'm finding my own manual leveling to be way more reliable than whatever mesh the machine is generating thinking that is so clever. That, or I'm missing something, but I save settings. I don't use the G29 line in code because I give for granted that the machine will keep using the last mesh generated (and auto leveling every print shouldn't be necessary) ... But I heard there is a 410 command (or something like that... Maybe 401?), that tells the printer to use the last generated mesh. But if really needed, then why the creality slicer doesn't come with such line as default for the 3d neo?
@@FilamentFriday Looking forward to it
The S1 has some issues with the crtouch, realistically you'd need a 0Y offset mod and loosen the 4 bolts that hold the y extrusion a bit.
The y extrusion comes over torqued
@@twanheijkoop6753 Sadly, I'm about a month into 3d printing and don't really have any idea of what you're talking about but thanks, if you're aware of a video showing how to do this I would appreciate you directing me. The only thing I know for sure is as long as I don't use the auto bed leveling I *eventually* can get it dialed in manually.
Marlin bed tramming function do the same for free.
Yet most people don’t know how to use it and this toy is a great alternative
Klipper ftw
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Would the steps be the same to clear firmware to default if it is with an Ender 3 with a BL touch added?
This part is separate from the printer’s computer settings & firmware and no numbers need to be entered. Although he does provide a gcode that will automatically move your nozzle to all 4 corners, I never use it because I’m too slow.
This is simply a way to make sure the spring adjustments underneath are all tightened or loosened so that all 4 corners keep the table perfectly level. I think of it as leveling the legs on a table. You want them all to be the same height. But if your floor is uneven, you might need to shim one or 2 to keep the table level. In this case, you adjust zed height and turn the wheels underneath until the light on the leveler turns on. The leveler would be directly under the nozzle. So the first one I just look and see what the zed height is when the light goes on. The next corner I will do the same thing. But when the light goes on? It should be the same number as the first. If not, you turn the spring wheel to the right(down) or left (up) until it registers the same number as the first one, and then keep going around until all 4 corners turn the light on at the same Zed number.
The auto-leveler (bl touch/cr touch) is part 2 and you can think of it as the tabletop. Now that you have the legs dialed in (via manual spring adjustments in all 4 corners) now the auto leveler makes sure you don’t have a warped table top. If you have it checking a 3x3 grid (or more) it will measure and record any slight differences along the flat surface of the table top (print bed)surface in case it’s slightly warped. Then make sure you save its results to the EEPROM. If you just check the tabletop without first checking the table legs, there’s only so much the auto-leveler can compensate for. After you do this a few times? It’s a piece of cake. I check the springs settings anytime I move the machine, change my nozzle, etc. Then after those 2 steps, reset your Z offset to zero, save settings again, and then recheck your Z-offset. Enter that number in, save again, and you are good to go.
It really pains me to say this but you haven't produced a decent, informative video for a long, long time, you used to be one of the best but now your output isn't worth watching, yes i'll get a lot of hate but i don't care. I am truly sorry, you have lost a subscriber, I miss the old CHEP, he was worth my time.
Have you considered CHEP was useful to you because the subject matter was, and still is, geared toward beginners? Not meaning to give you a hard time but, as a beginner myself since Christmas, thx to CHEP I’ve been able to put my Ender 3 together and learn an incredible amount of knowledge, over a relatively short amt of time. Some of the more advanced videos made me want to throw my printer out the window.
Also, technology changes and some of these repeat videos incorporate important changes compared to past episodes. Maybe you might consider yourself a “graduate”of CHEP’s instruction. You’ve obtained advanced knowledge and now have the ability to hang out with the advanced coding GitHub crowd.
There's only so much info one can give for these machines.
Shaun Morrissey - Thanks for the honest feedback. What content we’re you looking for or expecting?
You don't have to watch every video. I skip those that don't interest me...
@@FilamentFriday This isn’t an entertainment channel, it’s an educational. Don’t let this guy ruin your day. He simply grew out of the source material and it’s simply no longer educational to him.
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You can replace them cheap and easy, also did you tell the place you got it from? They are pretty good about replacing things broke in shipment.
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