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problem with FL is that if ur ally or opposite has pre-made party, they will wipe everything =)
I met a commander in another MMO while both of us were taking a break from XIV, and he told me a similar story once, so he gathered a group of friends who were good at PvP and tried to disrupt groups like these, and they had fun destroying them. I wish more people would just shut down this tomfoolery.
Frontlines is pretty rough. Thanks to Salted (salty) Earth being as powerful as it is, you only need 2 drks to completely shutdown an opposing force. Your only real "counter" against drg lb is guard if you can't run away/notice it in time, assuming war, rpr, or dnc lb doesn't deny your access to it. It's so bad that you can gauge how much fun you'll have depending on how many drks are stacked on other teams/yours.
Thankfully FL isn't as bad as it seems to be in JP but with how games play out (fairly often ive noticed), it certainly feels like it, even if there isn't any collusion going on.
The only thing really irks me in some FL's is the meta that seems to be all over them like a cheap suit. DRK+DRG+AST. I've seen numerous maps where if the other alliance has like 8+ AST's and DRK's, some people will simply leave group because its a complete waste of time to try and fight that combo. I realize its considered the best signature combo but it still makes PVP in general nothing but a miserable experience. It reminds me of EVE Online's N3 coalition using their signature, "Wrecking Ball," formation in that it is an EXTREMELY one sided fight. Makes some PVP matches very unfun.😑
AST macrocosmos is great for DRK since taking damage = heals and AST lb also boosts your own teams damage by 30% and reduces the enemy teams damage by 30%, i use it to sabotage the pulls that the premade teams use 😂 or just cast silence on the drk when they jump in, i've been doing it for 2 years on chaos and now they sometimes just kick me from the game if we happen to be on the same team, since i have ruined so many of their pulls, but i just love doing it
Yeah DRK needs a nerf. Like to reduce its pull radius increase the cool down or something. Dying to getting vacuumed multiple times by several DRKe feels awful and made worse by the fact that you can physically escape the radius and the server ticks will pull you all the way back.
Had this happen on primal. had the most of the opposing two teams push us to spawn, then many of one team would peel off to do objectives. Have had this happen on a few occasions, especially in mornings when I usually play.
I feel like I’ve been a victim of the 2 team bully’s one team before, granted I was lagging bad but the whole alliance would just drop and the other team just kept killing us
Meanwhile NA FL = complete chaos = noone knows what theyre doing, everyone sucks, it's a 3-sided die
This happens alot. I knew something was fishy when one team was trying to keep us camped at spawn while letting the other team get the checkpoints.. glad to find out my hunch was right.
Yep. My friends and I have had multiple FL games where both teams just constantly targeted us on the map despite how our team had ZERO points. It was quite literally hopeless.
I hate this stuff. I personally really like frontline, and am happy that it seems pretty fair on my DC. There are some premade light parties that 9/10 times will destroy you if you go up against them, but the game isn't rigged. I just don't get the win trading. The fun of frontline isn't afking with your hand of mercy title and field commander's jacket, it's actually being good at something and feeling like you're carrying the team. Even if you're good at frontline, it doesn't matter if you're just win trading with your friends. How do you enjoy being good at something if your skill has effect on how well you do?
a lot of people are rewards andies. they don't get enjoyment from "being good at something" they get their brain-feel-good chemicals from new shinies.
So these are the frontline matches I get into…
oh my god they added win trading to ffxiv
I used to love yeeting folks off the cliff in the FL Borderlands Ruins map as a Monk. Legit was the only game mode I liked :p
Tbh, Ruins was fun and I miss the map. I'd be WAR and chain MNKs as they kicked me off the cliff. If I'm going down, everyone is going down. xD
Too bad the new remake version of the map will be flat, but i do remember having this big urge to kill any monks that were guarding the cliffs and warning my team about them
Unbalanced?, yes, but once you managed to kill them, it felt soo damn good ❤
FL is so awful now. The chance to win is 1 in 10, and it just gets worse each month. Without a try hard pre-made, it's a joke.
That's just not how it works. If there's one premade in the game, even assuming they have 100% win rate (They don't), you have an effective 20/68 chance to be on the same team as them in any given scenario, or just below 30%. If there's 2, on opposing teams, they're also likely to bash eachothers' face in while the third team ends up winning because they don't want to lose to the other premade. If there's one premade on each team, it's essentially a 1/3 chance again. If there's multiple on one team, and none on yours at all? It happens, that's how rng works, but even still they don't always win. I've seen 3 GOOD premades on the same team lose just due to the other teams actually playing really well. If your win rate is "1 in 10" lifetime, then you're most likely the problem.
If you're only winning 1 in 10 games, you're the problem. Individual impact isn't as high as CC or RW, but one pretty good or pretty bad player in FL can still absolutely impact who wins.
Idk I queue on it to level alt jobs and mine is 1/3 which I expect is normal? But even playing it casually a lot of people straight up don't pay attention to the map or objectives. I've helped get wins by just going with a few people and nabbing unattended small landmarks. But a lot of the time people spend the whole time fighting, don't pay attention when a really obvious pinch is going to happen and end up wiped. But either way I get exp so I don't care lol.
@@boolien ya my consistent 9 to 13 kills and 0 to 1 deaths. Definently me.
@@anthemoftheworld I run into the 2 strong teams and 1 garbo team a lot like this video. I'm either in the losing close game or the terrible team. I'm getting some bad luck when I do end up on a close team, or it seems maybe they are throwing at the end? Idk I do 1 to 3 games a day for over 2 years and still haven't reached 100 wins in any map aside ice. Ice map is actually the only one with a positive win rate. I think the premades aren't as powerful there.
Well, people can’t fight individually so naturally they go get “help” lol. I keep track of those. I’m the guy who throws the wrench in their “organized” group factory..and yes I have turn the tide many times.. and love how upset they are by sending hunt parties after me in FL because I’m such a problem. Flattering.
Its all fun and games until they realize they can kick you from the game, if you happen to be on the same team :P
ever wondered why half your alliance changed into MCHs mid-FL and they keep spite-ing certain people, usually 3 spites at a time, in order?
then the enemy suddenly changed from an orderly army into a bunch of random mobs once the sniped player is down
yes, they are a pre-made party made to counter these commanders by assassinating them on sight
What confuses me sbout this scensrio is like... Frontline is not the content you woulf think has this kind of stuff going on lol.
I really hate the stigma DRK has in frontline since I main it outside of PvP
Because it's justified from PVP, thanks to some poor balancing on SE part. It's probably one of the things WoW does better than FFxiv and that's PVP.
You should do a PVP Video :)
I love that about PVP JP the whole commander thing!!!! However, I have only known this to be random unorganized.... sometimes we win, sometimes we lose. And when we lose the commander apologizes. But we always appreciate anyone, even the quiet ones who command by markers/marking self. There is MANY types of them. Funny thing is, it is rare, but they do exist in NA/EU too. However, JP is brutal as OP says, very brutal. Even on losing side; you can turn tides at last second and win. Unlike NA/EU where they give up, JP DC never gives up until time is done!! Which is less toxic from what I experienced but at the same time I had some hilarious picnic PVP moments in the west. Sobering story why sometimes it's impossible to win. Which, there is always two DRK and a DRG in a match that always wins. When we realize it, we stop que. I was even streaming one day when it happened. But it is such a blast when we DO get in their PT, so it is a low chance.
Idk if EU peeps give up whenever they're on the losing side, oftentimes casual players (rouletters) just too clueless to realize they're losing 😅 we have some commanders here, but usually it's just a random dude who link map for new nodes xD
The best commander imo is the one that keeps track of everything. Who to target, new nodes, incoming sandwich/pincer, etc. Their macros are super useful (even tho some people hate the sfx) To me personally one good drk with mark is enough to lead the team.
I have encountered two or so in EU!!! It is always so great to see them!!!! At that point I don't even mind losing... although last time, we had a commander and nobody listened in EU so we lost w@@sanomaly
@@yabiyabi some players just queue FL for easy exp so they don't bother following command. But maybe there are players that simply don't speak English and genuinely don't know what's happening. That's why I always appreciate commander with auto-translate macros, truly W commanders 😎
Yes that is true, they did use auto translate, but I thought it was very interesting. Oh, it did happen in JP too, mind. hahaah I wonder if they get pissed deep down.@@sanomaly
And i thought there has been less to none rigging recently..
I could be in an illusion or dream... But I think I've actually heard you tell this one before already.
Yea I did it was on my TH-cam live but I never made a video out of it till now. I had a few recordings I never turned into videos yet 😮
Premades tunneling the third place team is the reason why I think SE needs to take away party queuing in FL. Solo queues only baby.
camping in pvp is textbook toxicity lmao
Try oce.
Frontlines are dominated by a single game fc that form parties that sync queue to try to get on a single team and then have a one sided 1v2 stomp.
First fight ends and one team all have max battle high and it's basically over.
I guess I'm *too* casual, I never knew frontline was so like, strategic.
*I also never knew people took FL so seriously. I sometimes see people say passive aggressive stuff like "Blue is the other way, guys...", but never voice chats with serious tones and callouts. That's wild.
Some of the rarest achievements, time wise, are from frontlines so people.get super sweaty over it.
win trading isn't new in ffxiv "pvp"
inb4 tons of people bitch about FL and premades and comps - yes you can beat them; you are just bad and don't understand how to use your toolkit strategically or are not paying attention/out of position. If you have one Diamond + level CCer in most alliances or more your odds increase tenfold, if the rest of the alliance doesnt stand in the back and keep backing up.
Classic you are bad trash excuse for SE’s awful design. Salted earth combos are lame af to play against regardless of how easy it is to counter. 🤪🤪🤪
I have been sabotaging and fighting premades for about 2 years on CHAOS since its the most fun i get out of FF14 and its fun to get under their skin, too bad that they usually kick you from the match if you end up in the same team as them :S, since they dont like people that ruin their pulls or make it harder for them
I some times get the itch and queue FL roulette for an hour or two over and over. It can be fun, but probably more so if you’re going in with the expectation that you can lose more than win and in the end it really is just a game.
My most cherished memory is getting janked by a WAR off a hill and my entire team jumping down to get my back, pushing the enemy team back and off my soft MCH body. 🥲
I’ve since learned how to PVP DRK and WHM and have reciprocated having my team’s back as often as I can by being the most annoying bully jobs ever. 😅😅