Is Gaming a Sport?
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Sports are sacred, they always will be to many different cultures whether in the United States or across the globe, but over the last decade gaming has become strikingly similar. Both gather large audiences to watch, both are profitable and both require a certain skill level to be the best. League of Legends has become one of the most popular games to reach a “sport” level, bringing in millions of unique viewers and selling out arenas for tournaments.
Is gaming a sport?
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"You need a ball" wtf. Running isint a sport then ok. didint know that
+aGuUU27 and cyclin and snowboarding
so does boxing lol
or boxing or skiing or snowboarding or most olympic sports
You need a ball? Then Rocket League is a sport then.
All of you are completely correct, Ben... sorry to say... your just a big F*CKING idiot
It can be competitive, but its not a sport
nah, fuck off, it's a sport m8
sorry your cave man brain can not handle a meaning being changed from progress.
@@actionjax3249 this is not progress. You are just lazy
Average age of a baseball viewer is 55...The sport is dying as much as you don't want to except it..
Baseball is shit cricket is so much better
sevens2 40 years from now, when American football has changed completely or disappeared due to the prevalence of brain trauma, Baseball will still be the same, and it will still make tons of money.
Gaming is not a sport, I love it, but its not a sport. Anything you can get better at while you blaze and drink is not a sport.
It's called E-SPORT for a fucking reason.
No it's a hobby and something fun to do. I like Gaming but it is not a sport.
Yea I like beating Real Madrid with Barca
People play for money, it involves strategy and physical co-ordination. It is a sport like racing is a sport.
Agree. It is not a sport. It is a home entertainment system.
Daniel Rodríguez Sánchez Agree
WINZ0W lol no just no physical lmao sitting in a gaming chair does not require working out and playing a game for 5 hours.
TLDR - For this Ben, a sport is something he grew up with and cannot be anything else.
A sport requires physical exertion
It doesn't matter if gaming is a sport or not. People like Ben - let's face it - are old (sorry Ben). And old people die (sorry Ben). And people who grew up playing video games, maybe even watching esports will take the places of old people like Ben who will eventually die (sorry Ben). And let's have this conversation then. What will the people who are like 6 years old today, say about this ... after they grew up watching the Dota 2 International or LoL Championship in the Staples Center in front of a million people audience, players competing for a multi million dollar prize pool.
People are old. And something might come along after esports which I might not recognize as a sport. But it won't matter, because I'll be old and dead soon. Because dead people don't matter anymore.
***** gaming is clearly not a sport because it sometimes does not involve physical activity exept maybe kinect and shit like that might but if it involves a controller then no.
Eddie Aguilar I never said that it is a sport. I said that it won't matter in 20-30 years what people who didn't grew up with gaming think if it's a sport or not.
The definition of sport is such a blurry line, as you've seen in that video and it doesn't matter what individual people define as a sport, it matters what the society and sport associations define as a sport. And esport has already been accepted in a number of universities and colleges as a sport scholarship and many schools will follow.
Take the Dota 2 International of last year for example. It had a 11 million dollar prize pool (in comparison the US Open - a major Golf tournament - only awards 9 million). Over 10 thousand people assembled in a hall in Seattle, the tickets were sold out within an hour (tickets for the upcoming International in august were sold out in 5 minutes). It had literally millions of people watching online. You have your teams who are very skilled in this one game, know everything about it. It is even more so about reflexes and coordination and communication than in most other sports. And they are competing for this huge prize money.
They don't work out their physical bodies than most other athletes do, I agree. But their brains run like a thousand miles per hour, every single second they play this game. They use their brains, not their bodies and it ultimately comes down to that.
so just consider it as mind games or something
Eddie Aguilar First, I never said that I think it's a sport. Second, even if I did, why do mind me thinking that? Because it doesn't hurt you, you don't know me, why do you care and you can't do anything about it anyway. Third, it doesn't matter what I think. I don't hold any power over the definition of sport. I'm just a guy. And so are you.
Society will have to make that decision and I think I know how that will turn out. Because, again, old people die^^
lol they do but its just annoying how ppl think gamings a sport
I consider gaming a sport. It has competition, skill, strategy, offense, and defense. Gaming has five of the most important ingredients to be a sport.
Awesome Card Games Then I consider a job interview to be a sport. It's competitive and require skills
Sky Seeker You clearly ignored I also said OFFENSE AND DEFENSE. Next time fully comprehend a statement. Thank You!
Awesome Card Games There is offense and defense. You need to sell yourself in the interview to get the job. So you do need offensive. And if they ask you a question like ''why did you leave your last job?'' you gotta know how to defend yourself for that question.
Sky Seeker There is no defense against your competition during a job interview. All you have is an offense in the job market and that is your resume.
So what about running the tracks like usain bolt? What defenses are there against your competition?
Then why is racing a sport?
It's not a sport.
Vincent Valentine yes it is...
Why is chess a sport?
TheAndredal well it doesn't have any physical activity other than putting your foot on the pedals...
ZeRo_ N1GhTmAr3 wrong... You need endurance, mental strength and you need to be fit. Have you actually tried racing? It doesn't seem like you do
Gaming is a E sport not a sport there is a difference.
Lol an E Sport? Its either a sport or its not a sport.
+The German Eagle that's why it's called and e-sport ya dumb shit, that's what we just said
+TheDeceptiveGaming you can't start putting letter in front of thing to make it a sport
Matthew Fisher who ever said it was a sport? That's why it is an e-sport(As in electronic sport)
armand d'entremont you clearly don’t know what you’re talking about
Sport requires physical preparation. Gaming requires nothing but sitting down moving your thumbs...
Depends on how informed you are. If you aren't informed at all like Ethan Kerwick, you might say something stupid.
kanichiva Key word being "mental". Spots is about being physical. Gaming is not a physical activity, it's a mental one.
Ethan Kerwick Gaming requires enough physical preparation to deflate this argument. Gamers train like it is a full-time job (8+ hours per day) not just to increase strategy and mental preparation, but to increase click rate. Yes, serious gamers and gaming organizations track click rates. Your physical ability to get to correct button quicker than your opponent is as critical as a baserunners foot getting to the base before the throw.
Raymond Don't forget fighting games. You have to practice memorizing combos and counters to every possible situation to be on top. When to attack, how to attack and it all depends on who you're facing.
Look up osu, so much more than that
Good idea, go on the internet and trash E Sports...smart.
Short answer: no
Ben I know you don't read these, but baseball is not popular among the general population. I promise you if you go to any MLB stadium during a game and conduct a survey that asks people how they got their tickets, you would find that the majority of people are there because they won them from a raffle or got them at their job. Nobody buys tickets to baseball games anymore because nobody cares enough! Japan and Latin America can have baseball, it fucking sucks.
I think it depends on age. 40+ people still watch the games (look who commercials are directed at next time a game is on TV) but you are right that younger people are watching less baseball.
TYT Sports That's interesting, I didn't think of that. Next time I watch I'll pay attention to what products are being advertised. And yes, part of it is my demographic (I'm in my 20s). All my friends my age prefer basketball or American football.
Really? You think people go to watch people stare at computers. When I first saw gaming on ESPN I said to myself " that's sad"
And by the way people have been going to Baseball games since before you were born
You are right, i have heard a lot of analysts say that exact thing on ESPN, most people dont pay for tickets and the league makes a lot of its revenue from corporate partnerships who then hand out raffles, competitions, etc as you said.
Smax Lab part of the reason guys our age prefer basketball and football is the appeal though, the hip-hop culture that comes with an NBA or NFL team is a huge draw... the NBA was nowhere near as popular as it is now and that is largely due to marketing the product to the right audience.
"Sport requires a ball" What about nascar?
Baseball being the most popular ever??? That can't be correct. Yea the money is huge now because of TV rites and ad revenue. If you think Baseball is popular around the country in cities that don't have teams then you are nuts.
Baseball is losing fans like crazy. And Futbol is def gaining popularity, especially the BPL. NBC has huge number of viewers every weekend
I hope ben loses his job.
That the guy on the young turks.. if he says "here's the deal" one more time..
YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THE DEAL IS FOR FUCKS SAKE.
His entire argument is "i am aware that i don't know about gaming and i don't even have a clear definition of the term sport, but i still FEEL like its not a sport because it challenges my worldview and therefore my gut feeling is more important than anything you will ever say!"
That's how someone speaks who lives in an cultural echo-chamber.
Knock knock
who's there?
it's me.. reality! Let me in!
Taking the word physical out of the definitions of 'Athlete' and 'Sport', encapsulates professional gamers. I don't think professional gaming should be called a sport, nor that gamers should be called an athlete. However gaming is not called a sport, it is an E-Sport. Gamers should be called E-athletes or something. Give them their own definition rather than comparing them to physical sports.
It's a category of sports.
Lol Ben had me dying the whole video.
Gaming is esport not sport.. there is diffrences. And Esport is amazing
just looking at this channel alone.. I saw soccer videos from 49k to 70k views.. I saw one baseball video with 1k view
Dota 2 (a video game) went on espn 2 for its 4th international with a prize of about 11million
It's not a sport. It doesn't have to be a sport. I love sports and games. I don't mind if it's not considered a sport
Biggest debate: is Cheerleading a sport?
Heres what I think. COMPETITION Cheerleading IS a sport.
But any other cheerleading for any sporting event, that's NOT a sport
sport is a voluntary attempt to overcome unnecessary obstacles
Incorrect. Sports is something you do if you have nothing else to do. The reason you play is because it's fun. And if you're good enough you can later on do it professionally
but it is voluntary and you try to overcome "unnecessary" obstacles :P
Lyrical Productions your definition is too broad. People do lots of things when they are bored. I can name countless things that not sport and yet they'll fit your definition. plus your premise that sport is something you do becuase you have nothing better to do is clearly flawed. People can still play sports even if they have something better to do. I dont see how that is a necessity. Or even remotely relevant.
Why can't we just use the distinctions/categories that are already in place? Athletic sports, ESports and mind sports. No need to pretend they're all the same.
I love video games, but even I hate to call it a sport. Fact of the matter is, in places like Korea it is the most popular spectator sport by far. By these standard you kind of have to call it a sport.
The thing that makes a sport is how competitive it is, how high a number score you can get, the speed it's done, and how well you do it.
Aboslutely NOT a sport. I love myself some games, but the entire concept is in the name. It's a game. Sure, you can get paid for it if you're able to but tat doesn't qualify it as a sport. Have a league, have a volatile community, have teams--have whatever. It doesn't make it a sport. Cool, it's competitive, gaming is gaming. I get there are technical arguments in claiming that gaming is in fact, a sport but it's just not a sport.
Ben made the best point when he likened it to politics. It's competitive, you get paid, some are better than others. Anyone who calls League of Legends or DOTA (whatever that is) a sport, is in serious denial of what they're doing. Is it so important for them to have what they do be called a sport to justify that gaming is in some way strenuous or takes some skill? Of course we all know it takes skill, no one is denying that. Go enjoy it, get paid, get famous (if that's even possible) from it. No one is taking that away, but why feel the need to try and classify something that is so obviously not a sport, as a sport? It really only brings sports fans and people with any sense of logic to have a good chuckle over that.
Anyway, great conversation as always. I'm going to stop because I can go on and on and on about this, but then I'll just get a headache. People are going to believe they're playing a sport while staring at a screen, screaming at a virtual game, acting more intense than they ever should while playing a VIDEO game, no matter what others say.
Now, I'm off to go play some MLB the Show. My contract states I need to play at least once a day.
+W Wright people have serious mental problems here, and i'm not even trying to offend someone. The way you define wether something is related to specific term or not is my looking at the definition of that term and checking if this object fulfills this definition. And, believe it or not, it doesn't. The reason is that activity cannot be considered a sport if it requires some kind of instruments or equipment that cannot be provided by more than one company. And while computers surely can, the game itself is produced strictly by one company. At the same time, game isn't exactly a physical object, and somebody else can't make an identical game and claim it's their product, cause with software it doesn't work like that. So there's an argument for it being a sport. It's all very controversial and stuff, but my point is, that everyone, i mean EVERYONE discussing this topic and not supporting the idea of E-Sports being a sport didn't come even close to that way of thinking. All you can say is meaningless side notes of "you're just trying to justify something you do blablabla", or just going straight forward "calling professional gaming a sport is ridiculous, and only braindamaged retarded douchebag would do that". That's not exactly how the real conversation is meant to be. Get your shit together if you wanna have a real argument.
wat ever its not a physical sport its a mind sport n their r many bishes that tinkh its nut a skill.
gaming is obviously a sport, care to debate me?
+Nicholas Bilic i am a gamer but who cares we dont need to be recognized as a sport who cares we are getting more viewers than most sports now ive been doing jiu jitsu for 10 years i have competed in tournaments for prizes of 5000 dollars and have placed second or third we dont need recognition.
Sure, I don't care what you guys call it but it's funny when a another kid tells me(a football and track sprinter) that playing lol is a sport. I just laugh my ass off, it's like saying I'm an athlete cuz I play 2k.
+Nicholas Bilic It's not and never will be. It's something on it's own that could potentially rival sports. I heard some people in the industry don't want to call it esports, they'd rather call it competitive gaming or something, cause it's really not a sport.
+21 RB an esports athlete is someone who plays it plays is a lot better then majority of the population. Also esports doesn't include all the games. only the games which are competitive and require skill, team work and hell a lot of practice. You are an athlete cause cause your a track sprinter better then others and do it professionally, same way some people are esports athletes.
+21 RB And why is that laughable? They put in more hours of practice and work than any athlete below the professional level. It requires insane amounts of skill and game knowledge.
Needs a ball??? Gymnastics, martial arts, skiing
Sport: 'an activity involving physical exertion'. So no, its not a sport.
It went from is gaming a sport to is baseball more popular than soccer lol
i won 500$ from playing a Game/Sport on CounterStrike
This is literally the worst debate about whether video games are sports or not i have ever watched.
No it isn't. It's an esport. please stop with the misunderstanding !!!
How the fuck is gaming a sport? Sports are physical activities and doesnt even have to be compeditive
Sports is sports because of fairness and integrity. No one can claim fairness and integrity in online gaming. There will always be bugs, always be exploits, always be loopholes.
If chess is a sport then video games are a sport. Also is hunting a sport?
musicf3b Hunting is not competitive.
Potato Potara although it can be at times ive gone hunting and made bets with other people on outcomes. just saying
Potato Potara neither is acrobatics and such but thats still a sport
Esports is real and its growing throughout the world. Other athletes are starting to recognize these players as pro athletes. Pro gamers actual pros, not your friend that claims hes the greatest thing since sliced cheese; they put in hours of practice to achieve greatness just like any athlete. Ben is just like any other main stream media reporter, say gaming is a sport and just watch them roll there eyes. Take games like Dota and League of Legends for example; the world championships that these games have bring in millions of views as wells as thousands of live attendees. League of Legends has held its events in places like Madison Square Garden , The Staples Center, Mercedes-Benz Arena in Berlin, and Sangam Stadium a venue for the 2012 FIFA World Cup. Just because its not a physical display of skills does not take away from these games being a sport.
It depends on what you concider a sport.
Does the competitive nature define the sport?
Does the preperation and Training?
Does the audience?
Does The athletic ability?
if you think the first three points are enough, then gaming is a sport. Are they not? in that case it wouldnt be.
What we see here is beautiful. It is a change in society. Everything changes. The older guy just refuses to accept it and that's ok. Things are changing regardless. It is a sport. It will be the sport of the future. You exercise your mind instead of your body. It's a refined sport. Deal with it.
no sport
no sport future
You are an idiot
Cheats only no future no mind
Frass Tvhs ok boomer
does that mean that math is a sport as it exercises your brain, or that youtube is as it is a comp to see who gets the most views. no it is physical activity, darts require that to perfectly throw, and golf you need to be strong in all aspects of your body. your saying everything is a sport.
I love video games, love playing them, but I dont see it as a sport. To me a sport combines athleticism and intelligence (depending on what sport you play).
I don't consider nascar,golf, darts, even baseball (need skill, but dont have to be fit) as sports
Çerastes ya everyone needs to shut up and do what they love. oh and Kevin over here thinks that video games require no intelligence. let me give my console or pc to a cave man and watch them win 3 mill. duhhh that’s not going to happen you have to be that BE good and intelligent.
Hey you need high intelligence to play video games at a professional level
Ben was right on whether gaming was a sport but wrong on baseball being more popular than soccer
the difference between a movie and a sport is that a movie already has an ending that people know. You do not know the outcome of a live event.
If ben doesnt think gaming is competitive i want to see him watch a few games of CSGo Competitive teams go at it. Not some pub matches of cod
+SirJumpyy he never said it wasn't competitive.
Haha more people watch LoL world champs than the World Series. Get over yourself Ben.
TYT, look up the definition. I needs physical activity.
I really dont know if the caster is sarcastic or not
The funny thing about this whole debate is that whether or not it is a sport, Esports will continue to thrive and provide very successful careers for its players whether haters like it or not
Is mayonnaise a sport?
You guys don't know what you are talking about. Game 7 of the NBA playoffs had 22 million viewers this was on ABC a very accessible and easy to find public place that I could accidentally stumble upon. The world championships of league of legends was streamed live on Twitch which is a website that you had to know about to go to and it received 38 million viewers
"What Ben thinks about sports is RIGHT!"
I fucking died of laughter, That is the greatest quote I've heard in a minute.
i dont think you know the definition of Sport. you dont have to sweat to play a sport XD. do you sweat when you are a keeper in soccer, no because they do jack shit. but is it a sport... yes
If i am playing league ranked i am sweating like hell.
But if i am doing yoga i am more relaxed than when im watching tv
ESPN shows the Scripps National Spelling Bee. I wouldn't consider it a sport, but it's definitely a competition. I would put gaming in that category.
Ben, you are 100 percent correct on this argument. Baseball draws so much more money than soccer. Nobody gives two craps about soccer and baseball is bigger than it's ever been. ⚾️
Ben is too narrow minded in fact he said stress and BPM is a factor but a study was done and it showed that an e sports player experiences the same stress levels and produces similar amounts of cortisol as a RACE CAR DRIVER..... go on Ben look it up
Why do they even have to categorize gaming as a sport? Are they planning to include it as an event in the summer Olympics. If not, I don't see the need to label it.
The only time it was ever brought up as a serious topic, was when professional LoL players wanted a sports visa so they could play elsewhere. So you would have to classify what is and isn't a sport in their case and others alike.
Chess is a sport and its not in the Olympics
Video Games are not a sport and as a gamer I don't want it to be classified as a sport. The gaming community is something very special and great and that is why its an Esport, not a sport. I don't want gamers to be compared to football players or basketball players. Gaming is its own niche and I want it to stay that way as an Esport with its own competitions
Ben is so right in this. I would be getting equally, if not more, agitated than him in this scenario in this situation.
I really think there needs to be several other categories that are sports-like, but are not sports.
There needs to be a category that contain heavy physical activities that doesn't have rules, but still needs a well exercised body to be good at it - like rock climbing, casual swimming, solo skiing, etc. These activities can be played by yourself to get better and stronger, but not necessarily compete with others.
There should be a category where multiple teams are competing for a same goal and involves physical activity - these category should contain what we traditionally consider sports. e.g. basketball, volleyball, soccer, etc.
There should be a category where multiple teams/people complete for the same goal, but where there is limited physical activity - this is where gaming goes, along with billiards, bowling, and golf. People will get mad about this one, saying that the latter 3 still need proper form to execute properly and other b.s. but unless you are constantly on the edge (physically), you cannot go in the "traditional sport" category. The reason this category exists is because your mind/form is more important that your body structure. Both genders can play against each other unlike in a more physical sport like football.
1. Yes gaming is a sport. It is challenging, complicated, and require learning to become good.
2. Darts is actually reeeeeeeeally fucking huge (Although it isn't a sport).
Wow, and ben doesn't even consider track a sport, the tradition carried all the way back from 776 BCE in Olympia, Greece
If you honestly think that gaming is a sport then you need to see a doctor, never will I ever consider a gamer an athlete, a sport involves a physical activity, a lot of gamers are overweight/obese, when playing video games all you do is sit down for multiple hours and move your thumbs, video games is as much of a sport as checkers is
TEK187um_ Exactly it was in the x-GAMES
Rico Suave Not saying gaming is a sport but i don’t think you all Pro gamers kinda lazy or just kids that play video games. Professional
gamers are healthy. It is in their contracts that they need to keep physically
fit and keep a good diet for physiological purposes to become alert so they
don't under perform. They spend up to 18 hours a day training to become
basically amazing at their games, and they out make them basically imposable to beat.You should check out some starcraft players, the speed that they use the keyboard at is just amazing to watch. Most professional games use keyboards (besides COD which is the least popular one) and not controllers since the games are more advanced and need more keys for it to work.
Some of these Gamers make Millions, I mean millions of dollars in
championships, it’s crazy but it’s a massive scene. In places like Korea, there are TV stations dedicated to "E-Sports" and some games fill stadiums
full of fans. I mean most Korean and Chinese out play almost all European and American teams because we don't support the gamers here and shun them a lot,which doesn't help them.
Also a common misconception is that TH-camrs are 'pro gamers' but very, very few are. Most of them are just entertainers
Once again I'm not saying that gaming is a sport, I haven't made my own
mind up but I don’t think it’s fair to shun Pro gamers.If you want a better insight I suggest you watch a piece on Vice called “Esport”
TEK187um_ (not sure if the comment was for me) Honestly, I have a vague idea as to what the X-Games are, so I can't agree or disagree with you. I'm not against Pro gamers being athletes, but I feel they should get their own 'branding' because of them being just so unique.
Rico Suave What about sumo wrestlers? They're fat as shit but they wrestle and it's considered a sport right? It's physical activity. Fishing is considered a sport and all they do is sit down for hours. People think racing and NASCAR is a sport as well....so...what about that?
***** Sumo Wrestlers a wrestle, wrestling is a physically demanding sport, as for nascar and fishing they take a hell of a lot more physical activity than playing fucking video games
I don't think that gaming is a sport, I play sports lol I play games, they both take significant skill and that is the important thing to recognize.
Hey guys! I don't know if you can read this, but think about, NASCAR is counted as a sport. All you have to do is NASCAR is sit down and drive a car fast and turn corners. There isn't much a difference XD. But also, "Today's e-Sports" plays in the X-Games. It did last year. So would that help the discussion?
I think we considered sports today sports because they have been around for so long. In 50 years we're gonna look at gaming and say "how is it not a sport?" but for now, to me, it doesn't seem to be a sport.
So he read out the definition from dictionary.com but didn't care to mention "as RACING, baseball, tennis, GOLF, BOWLING, wrestling, boxing, HUNTING, FISHING etc." If they are considered sports by the definition given then so is eSports as it has as much atheltic activity as Fishing, Racing, Hunting, Bowling, Golf etc.
Racing in a f1 car for example takes a lot of physical stress, you should see how big the necks are of these drivers. The g forces they have to take in corners is insane.
***** Exactly my point, eSports requires reflexes, dexterity, hand-eye co-ordination and a huge amount of stress, they all involve physical aspects but they're just not as blatant as football, rugby etc.
It's a sport if the best player/team wins.
Ben saved the best argument until last. Sports require athletics. And he's right, this isn't a real debate that sane people have.
E-sports are like chess. Fantastic, legitimate, professional competitions. Not a sport though.
In order to get an insightful answer to this question you need people who are qualified to talk about this. A board of people who understand the nature of online video games and how huge esports is while also understanding the heritage and idea of classical sport. But here's the thing the answer doesn't matter, esports is growing at an unprecedented rate, the US government provides athletic visas to gamers, millions of people watch esports sometimes more people watch the championships of esports like league of legends than the championships of mainstream sports, and the industry is taking in millions every year while simultaneously gaining new investors in certain teams and games like Rick Fox the NBA player who created his own esports team and says esports is a sport, Shaq and Linkin Park also are investors.
The best part about not caring about either side of this argument? Watching the two sides bitch at each other over it. haha
Well our future is fucked, I don't want my kids saying they're athletes because they sit on their ass playing video games..
+That1nutt yay more fat fucks who call themselves athletes, or scrawny ass kids
You are dumb
can it just be an esport? like i feel like electronic sport is pretty descriptive of what they are doing. I've never seen any channel/game/sane person claim that esports are literally identical to real sports and the players are physical gods, but I feel like the comparison, and personal investment necessary, is apt enough to warrant them being in a similar category.
according to Ben's "it need a ball" argument track and field is not a sport.
If being competitive is the ply aspect of a sport than food eating completions are sporting events and the contestants are athletes.
What world does Ben live in? Baseball more popular than ever? Lived in this country all my life, and I never once heard people talk about baseball in the causal sports conversation. I have one friend who talks about it, and thats because he loved it. He even admitted that he is alone because nobody cares for baseball.
In that case competitive orgies could be a sport. See who lasts the longest and it's strenuous.
Sport-an activity involving physical exertion or competition between two or more teams for entertainment, therefore I call bullshit that gaming isn’t a sport
I thought gaming was known as an e-sport? So it's not your typical sport it's an "electronic sport".
Darts deco makes more money in the UK! Live, with the beer flowing, is the best thing!
Fishing is considered a sport. Fishing. I think that pretty much voids the entire argument Ben is giving.
The thing with fishing is that it's not naturally competitive. It's just artificially turned into a competition to make it more exciting. Traditional sports are competitive by nature. By this logic, washing the dishes is a sport if you make it a competition.
for me gaming isn't a sport, although I love it and soccer is much more popular than baseball even in America
Diogo Costa Soccer is not more popular than baseball in the US unless maybe you go by the number of children who play or something like that. Personally I prefer soccer to baseball, but this is just not true.
Bobby Uttcrumbs ok maybe it's not true yet but it's soon to be
If you can convince me to how NASCAR and chess are considered sports then I'll give you gaming
If chess can be considered a sport, then so can E-sports.
While never done 'professionally', I used to play Call of Duty 4 to a very high standard, winning numerous online set up leagues, ladders and tournaments. Been a gamer for 22 years or so, probably 23. I wouldn't consider gaming a sport myself.
In saying that, it's hard to convince others than something like darts is more than a sport than gaming though.
It's a weird one, tbh. There's certainly elements to it than make it border on sport I suppose, but I just can't call gaming a sport. An e-sport? Sure.
You can't consider any activity where you can stuff cheetos in your face and continue that activity a sport.
If gaming isnt a sport then racing isnt a sport
He did not know how to argue, his argument was y'all are wrong I am right
First of all, Ben drives me nuts, i just feel he is that old guy who is stuck behind the world, just my opinion on him
here is thing i always say to people who say gaming has no physical difficulty
Yes it may have no physical but it for sure takes just as much and maybe some more mental ability
And we all need mental ability in every sport
Now i don't care about if it is a sport or not
Did it need to be considered a sport? Yes so it helps the leagues in LOL for example.
But the thing that drives me nuts is how people say there is no physical ability what so ever?
So you don't need to have any intellegence to play sports like basketball, football and your glorious baseball
HELL ON BASEBALL
BASEBALL IS DEAD!
no it really isn't
But it is NO WHERE NEAR YOUR IDEA OF IT
Like what the actual fuck Ben do you pay attention
Baseball is no where near as popular as it was in the 2000's with Bonds and Mark and Sosa, LIKE COME ON
Back to my first point
I consider gaming, chess, darts to be more mental sports then physical sports
People need to realize you need mental abilities to play all sports
+ScarfaceGuru Gaming is not a sport. It can be competitive, but if it requires zero physical ability it should in no way be considered a sport.
Someone please punch the old man for me!!
Darts is big in Britain
What's the definition of sport? If a sport involves significant amount of exercise, then gaming (video games) is not a sport, nor are nine ball/pool, and poker. If a sport means game/competition, then yes, they are sports.
Sports have 4 main components: (based on OED definition)
1. Competition
2. Skill
3. Physical exertion
4. Entertainment
The "physical excretion" criterion is the real grey area since it has not proper definition, but I think it's safe to say that the likes of gaming, chess, and spelling bees don't qualify. Like they said in the video, there's nothing wrong with playing games, but its just not a sport.
Çerastes Just because something is recognized by the IOC doesn't mean that it's a sport.
It is not a sport. Just because it is competitive, does not make it a sport. This shouldn't even be an argument.
Gaming is as much a sport as poker is considered a sport. Their both hobbies that you can become good at. If you want you can call it a virtual sport and call yourselves virtual athletes. But to call it an actual sport would be like someone being a good Pokemon trainer and calling themselves a good coach.
Chess isn't a sport because there isn't any physical dexterity involved, it's an entirely mental recreation, even at the competitive level.
Most professional gaming requires extreme levels of hand/eye coordination.
+Çerastes So that means gaming is too
Why is this even an argument gaming is no where close to being a sport
Auto Racing isn't using a ball but you need 2