Is Gaming a Sport Part II
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 เม.ย. 2015
- SUBSCRIBE: bit.ly/1CxYDM3
Last week, TYTSports host Ben Mankiewicz challenged the hosts of the network on the topic of gaming and adamantly defended that gaming is not a sport. We read your comments and loved the discussion that followed, so we brought gaming experts John Iadarola of Think Tank and Kim Horcher of Nerd Alert to extend the discussion!
Leave your thoughts in the comments section below!
FACEBOOK: / tytsports
TWITTER: / tytsports
INSTA: / tytsportsonline - กีฬา
After watching two of these, I get the idea that the host doesn't have a clear definition of what sports is to him and therefore fails to come up with barely any founded arguments to support his opinion.
So Ben basically is saying that its not a sport if it doesnt have a ball Rocket League has a ball its a game which means video games are sports lol
+Volcom BladeX7
then boxing shouldn't be a sport either.
its a virtual ball, its not real life..
JoeyBatFlip
who cares, as long as anyone has more chances of making it in the competition without the limitation of height, weight or any physical attributes the player has, it will become a sport.
xYuushax right height weight or any physical attributes dont matter for video games because its not a sport
JoeyBatFlip
wrong again. then sports should never have a word from game itself also then. You are stupid.
Sports aren't and shouldn't be always based on what you are it should be based on how competetive that game can be.
Esports are even better at backing up their players than normal sports.
Not all people can have a chance at sports, but anyone can have a chance at esports. And Esports rule.
If you're too stupid not to accept esports as sports, you're more stupid than you think you are.
CSGO 5v5 competitive is a sport.
+adrenaline not on matchmaking tho
Matchmaking = Cancer
adrenaline by dictionary deffinition a sport is simply a competition.
There are "Sport". There are "MOTORsport". There are "E-sport". The end
AL mo not the end... a "sport" is all of those things. its a general term that means ANY competition.
Lol, Ben just won't let it go...
Cause it's not a sport
Because he is right.
ELCNUmorFnaMehT you crack me up lol
+SirMexiLot gaming is a sport look it up esports is a type of sport like chess,checkers,shin kicking, ETC. is a sport chess you don't run but it's a sport gaming can be a sport to you practice in gaming you are just a idiot
+SirMexiLot gaming is a sport look it up esports is a type of sport like chess,checkers,shin kicking, ETC. is a sport chess you don't run but it's a sport gaming can be a sport to you practice in gaming you are just a idiot
The Defiinition of sports in the Oxford Dictionaries (US English and Britsh English)
"An activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment:" Gaming does not fit this definition. If gaming was a sport then monopoly, spelling bee and competitive crossword puzzling is a sport.
BaconTuxedo
"If gaming was a sport then monopoly, spelling bee and competitive crossword puzzling is a sport."
Yet, that didn't stop ESPN2 to feature the National Spelling Bee on its timeslots as filler.
But yeah, being a lifelong arcade gamer, unless if you play DanceDanceRevolution or Pump it Up, then no.
*****
ESPN also known as Entertainment and Sports Programming Network, Entertainment is a keyword. If ESPN would broadcast a gaming turnament I would not complain because it is considered an entertainment.
BaconTuxedo Fair enough. In a business sense, I can't believe Disney effectively killed off Marvel VS Capcom, to the point ESPN can easily help market MvC. Talk about a bad business move, huh?
BaconTuxedo AND if you understand dictionaries, and how they work, and how they have been compiled for hundreds of years. Then you'll understand that dictionaries work on peoples usages of the words, not on a fixed, concrete definition that sticks and is used forever.
In this case, well, this whole video is about Ben and John and the 2 others defining their terms. WHAT MAKES A SPORT!?
Not taking the dictionary definition, because those definitions only change when everyone appreciates, and especially Oxford dictionaries the need to change the definition to fit with peoples usage.
I would say that if you can play something from a couch or a chair, then it's automatically NOT a sport.
...HOWEVER, that does NOT necessarily mean that if you CAN'T play it from a couch or chair that it is a sport.
Either way, sport or not, gaming IS a lot of fun and there can definitely be a lot of skill and strategy involved. So who cares if it gets lumped in under "sports"?
SuperBizalz nascar drivers are sitting down. You can play the game standing up . Golf requires no running . You make 0 sense
anything virtual is not a sport !!!!!!!!!! you have to be an ATHLETE
exactly
habs4life41 nope
ekelo ekete You cant do more than the Rules allow, your point?
It doesn't make that much of a difference to the game though. You can make a *hell* of a lot of possible actions when it comes to games. And with VR and the recent breakthroughs in games, those possibilities and choices are increasing by qualified hell of a lot
Azhag the Faggot my point is there is a difference between me getting fit and running faster than the next guy, compared to being limited by some game developer who says you can only be this strong or fast.
ekelo ekete If it's the feeling of improvement, yeah it's true to some degree. You won't see an increase in muscle mass or how much endurance you have, but the improvement lies in skill in playing the game and dealing with situations, like in all sport. In a game of CS:GO you get better at hitting shots and also being able to tell where to go, much like in a game of Rugby where you get better at tackling, being able to tell how deep you should be, whether or not to go into a ruck etc. The improvement in videogames is present as with sport, just in sport it's physically apparent when they're a good player.
In the market of MOBAs then you would be right in saying that there is a limit on how strong you can get, focusing on attack damage for instance can only get you so much, but in the competitive aspect of it, more often than not, it isn't a good idea to just stack attack damage. It takes strategy to know what items to buy and which skills to increase, and in that you would be right.
TBH ESports and Sport are entirely different things, the legitimacy of ESports as a sport is up to debate, but it's pretty moot seeming as the medium in which either are played is not the same in the slightest, one is played in air and grass (usually), and one is played through the medium of the internet. Esport =/= Sport, but Esport is as legitimate as a Sport.
Wait....So Rocket League is a sport ?
It does have a a ball, which is apparently the deciding factor for Ben
it has a virtual ball, not an actual ball in real life
so? does any of this matter? visas to the u.s. are given for sports and the government includes esports players in that category but not soccer players, i dont think anyone has a perfect definition of what a sport is and those definitions can change based on popular public opinion overtime so this debate doesnt really matter at all.
First of all, it doesn't matter. call it what ever you want. Second, Ben lost the argument the moment he said "it's a virtual sport". Exactly, that's why we call it "ESports". And that's it. You have your Sports we have our ESports. Done. The End. Good bye.
5:15 "You're driving a car, like you're driving a joystick." And there lies the problem... he has no fucking clue what he's talking about, a joy stick?
CS - Mouse & Keyboard
LoL - Mouse & Keyboard
Dota - Mouse & Keyboard
Hearthstone - Mouse & Keyboard
Call of Duty - Controller
Halo - Controller
Fifa - Controller
Ben and Chris are so out of touch that they don't even know what they're arguing against.
Zaqua FiftyFive There's professional Cod on PC?
Definition of Sport: "an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment."
If computer gaming involves physical exertion than yes it can be classified as a sport, otherwise it is just competitive gaming, which makes more sense, the exertion is more mentally than anything else if i'm not mistaken.
the host is so small minded
autoracing = motorsport
topgeareasy gaming = computersport ?
DerGrueneBaron e-sport
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorsport
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_sports
I play real sports and I am also a gamer. In my opinion the fact that one is virtual, and not real, is a key component. I think what everyone on the panel was missing was that it is entertainment, not sporting. Just because it has all of the bells and whistles that professional sports has, doesn't make these players actual athletes...it makes them virtual athletes...which is something completely different.
I feel that any competition that has pro level participants should be considered under the umbrella of sports and each one is a part of a sub category such as Athletic Sports, Cognitive Sports, and E-Sports or Virtual Sports. For a long time there were only athletics and cognitive sports so the things they were called were sports and competitions if they weren't in the tradition definition of a sport. At this point its is time to redefine how we think about what a sport is. I think it should be as stated above.
+Chaz4short
I agree with you dude.
agree~
"You cant get good at baseball" Thats the worst argument I have ever heard!
its actually pronounced "sport" we just Americanized it now its sports... like soccer and nascar is sport, not, soccer and nascar is sports.
To me it seems like gamers want the label of "sport" to legitimize their activity. The label isn't needed, and more importantly, the label doesn't apply. Gaming is not a sport. No physical activity = no sport. Its very simple, and there is really no debate.
Look at hand eye coordination, reflexes, mental Agility. What are they?
Tyler Heist Not a sport, none of the "skills" gained from gaming could be used in a legitimate sport.
Tyler Heist lol f off that could be said w alot of things painting requires some of that so is that a sport? Gaming is an activity ppl like you are idiots you use caterogies that specifically applies to gaming and shares characteristics with actual sports and then say its a sport because of hand eye coord reflexes etc in which case you just made up where does it say in sport you need that the fundamental thing is if it requeres physical effort gaming doesn't and no moving fingers is not something physical
SuperJBrowne Hand eye coordination and reflexes aren't useful in a "legitimate" sport?
jojag5 so you're the one who decides a sport has to be physical?
So it needs a ball...well guys I guess track, disc golf, archery, boxing, and ultimate frisbee aren't a sport LMAO.
5:40
oh...drive their car into a ball? Like in Rocket League?
I am an avid gamer and e-sports fan, however in my opinion gaming is and will never be a "sport". I grew up playing sports most of my life, most significantly was high school rugby. I have also been hardcore into online gaming since I was 10 years old(I'm 26 now), and there is no possible way I would ever get the two confused. Gaming is a skill, and I would place it in the same category as playing chess or poker. They are both skill based activities, and entertainment, however they are not physical sports. I fail to see why the community is so hell-bent on having gaming classified as a sport, why not just leave it the way it is? Are chess grandmasters pissed off because their passion is not being recognized as a physical activity? I highly doubt it. Long story short, I love both but video games and sports are completely separate and should remain so.
P.S. I never dreamed I would see Kim Horcher on TYT Sports heh :)
The biggest problem with Gaming being labeled a sport is the inconsistency of the games. There are far to many games and gaming genres with their own competitive scenes, this makes it very difficult to establish a set of uniform games that can be considered sports.
Sure, League of Legends has a huge competitive scene but what's going to happen years down the line when When League of Legends 2 is out and the mechanics of the game completely differ from the first one? In real Sports there have been rule changes over the years but there's never been such a contrast between games and different gaming genres.
From MOBAs to FPSs to Fighters, all of these games share completely different core mechanics but the core mechanics of a Sport like Baseball has always been the same. Even games of the exact same genre differ greatly, CoD isn't Battlefield or Halo, Guilty Gear isn't Street Fighter or Tekken. list goes on and on
Unless the entire gaming industry gets together and puts forward a set of truly genre defining games that don't change based on the flavor of the month then gaming can be recognized as sport,
It's iffy to say if Gaming being recognized as a "true" sport happens within the near future. One day maybe, Once all the Baby Boomers die off and the generations that grew up with video games become the vast majority. It could be a real possibility.
What is gaming going be by then? With the impending dawn of true VR the non-physical elements of today's gaming would be irreverent and they'd be defined as "true" sports. We might even see some of these elements incorporated into today's sports
he said volleyball isn't a sport but male volleyball players are pushing 50inch verticals so id say yes
Gaming a sport? That's funny. All you do is move your thumbs for a bit and act like you've done something. Cheerleading and Motorsport are more of sports than this, especially Motorsport. Probably the dumbest debate that shouldn't even be this long.
***** gaming like other sports for example football (not the American one I am referring to since I don't know anything about it) requires immense mental thinking and even extremely fast reflexes so you don't just sit on your ass and move your thumbs.
All sports require that, but in my opinion, and along with almost everyone else, gaming is not a sport. There is no exercise involved. No running. No catching. Not much movement. They do have great hand-eye coordination, which could be a plus if a gamer decides to play American Football as a WR. But, it's my opinion. Not to be mean, but it's just how it is. You would have to train immensely and sweat profusely in order to call gaming a sport, but it's just not how it goes.
***** well you're entitled to your opinions and so is everyone else.
***** video games take much more mental thought than any of the sports like basketball or football
***** What makes you think that? Professional athletes have to study and learn different strategies, read the play, make quick decisions to best accomplish their goals etc.
There's already a category for this. It's not 'Sports'. It's 'eSports'.
Non competitive gamers don't seem to understand the crazy physical skills that are needed to be a world class gamer. I could practice all day every day and just never be that good
Ben isnt ready for the future.
video games aren't sports
Lmao what people don't seem to understand is that it is already considerd a sport.
hyeboi it’s already considered a sport
Lol TBS pulled MLB games off their network for Counter-Strike and the E-League
Just play and have fun. Not a sport by any stretch of the imagination.
So playing NBA2K is a sport??
Lol
+Underpantsniper Sorry I am late, but no it isnt, its a parody of it. Sure you can play it somewhat competively but it got a very low skill cap. Something like Counter Strike or Starcraft got a skill cap above "sports" like American Football, Basketball etc.
I love gaming and I love sports. Gaming is NOT a sport it is a competitive activity.
so, all martial arts, swimming, running is also no sport?
his "bal" argument is so ridiculous. -_-
Sitting all day playing Minecraft isn't a sport. There are many games out there which aren't competitive. The only games I can see which people make arguments about are FPS and games like LoL and Dota, but there has to be physical elements for it to be a sport and for me has to include some sort of ball. I know in the NFL a "football" isn't exactly a rounded object but its definitely a sport. I get that competitive games you need mental and gaming skills but I don't think its a sport.
Gaming is a duck
this is a battle of generation the old generation will never consider gaming asport
***** luckly they will die first lol
If gaming is a sport then so is competitive vaping.
mango_666 its tru... that is a sport
This is the definition of "sport" : "an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment."
I am personally a gamer, but I do not think that gaming is a sport.
1) The definition includes, "including physical exertion". As much as everyone knows, sitting on a chair (no offence) and looking at a screen doesn't necessarily mean that you are exerting physical strength/ability compared to sports like tennis and football.
Both football and tennis require both mental and physical ability, and as the lady said in this video, gaming falls under "mind games" in a way that it is more towards mental ability and not physical ability. In my opinion, it barely falls into "physical ability".
2) This point is very important. The reason why people say that "gaming" is a "sport" to begin with, is because it's a competitive endeavour where there are teams going against each other to win something. However, people are actually forgetting the main definition of the word "sport", gaming doesn't include much physical exertion. People just say that "gaming" is a "sport" because it is competitive like when you witness tennis or football matches.
I cannot stress this point enough because everyone is comparing "gaming" to sports like tennis and football because you get to win medals and have fans cheering for you. But, people need to know that "gaming" has not enough inclusion of "physical ability" and that cannot be considered as "physical exertion". People who keep saying that "gaming" is a sport BECAUSE you get to win and have to train very hard aren't necessarily correct - they presents their points in a way where they find the similarity of "gaming" matches and football/tennis matches whereby a team wins and gets glory. However, that has nothing to do under the definition of "gaming".
I do not say that "gaming" is a sport because it goes against the very fine and important definition of it. But, I would go as far as to say that "gaming" is as COMPETITIVE as sports such as football or tennis - people just take "gaming" as a sport because they find it competitive and "competitiveness" is common across all sports, and that is why people find "gaming" a sport.
I rest my case (:
rocket league has a ball, but track doesn't.
Question of the day: if sports has to do with balls, what about boxing or other fighting sports?
athletisim check
competition check
strategy check ????
Here's my definition
1. Zero Sum Game
2. Total Body Movement (can't sit and compete)
3.Competitors compete at the same time (no turn taking)
Then by your definition racing isn't a sport yet it is...
Not if you use a car.
caseybv74 4. The actions of one competitor must be able stop the other from winning the competition.(there is defense)
That's why it's called e-sports
There is a difference between gaming (Just Consuming a game)
and Esport. They should invite a real SC2 Pro instead of some casual lol gamers..
it is important that is it recognized as a sport, like chess, to make it easier for the competitors to travel to compete in tournaments. It is quite common that players are denied visas...
I think the definition of what is a sport is made by the majority, if the majority of people consider competitive gaming a sport; then a sport it is. Its fun to argue different points on physical activity, popularity, competitiveness, etc. but in the end of the day if and when esports becomes that much larger than today's sports and when the (and i am generalizing here) 40-100 and older people who don't recognize it begin to fall out of the scene and stop arguing against it, we could see esports being recognized as a sport by nearly everybody.
+Mitchell Dunn defenitions are not made by what the majority think. that is simply not true
If the majority of the world wanted to change the definition of a word, the definition could change. It happens. Words arent god set laws of the world, they're written in a book called the dictionary that is made by men.
A good example of what I was trying to say in my original post is the changing definition among people for gay, it used to mean happy and now it is commonly used to refer to homosexuals.
I love video games as much as the next guy or girl, but lets get real here……… but people have got to get off this whole E-Sports thing. Video games are in no way shape or form are sport. In my view if there is no clearly physical and athletic output, you are not playing a sport. Just enjoy sports for what they are and stop trying to shoehorn video games into the sports realm.
The thing about calling gaming a sport is the respect and approval that it will get from the traditionalists and the general community outside of gaming because right now if i were to go to my dad and talk about gaming he'll brush it off and treat it as something lesser than what is. And that is why this label as a "sport" is important.
Football is a sport. Gaming is an eSport. "Electronic Sport" That's really all that needs to be done here.
I really like Kim as a host and John is fine... whatever. However, they are wrong here.
In order to be a sport, you need three things:
1.) Athleticism. The absolute minimum here is... does jogging regularly make you perform better.
2.) Competition. Obviously.
3.) The ability to interfere with your opponent.
Track isn't a sport, because you can't do anything to your opponent.
Poker isn't a sport. Neither is scrabble.
AND NEITHER ARE VIDEO GAMES.
"It's not a sport.. its a virtual sport" That sounds quite stupid. If its a virtual sport, IT IS A SPORT!
For me sports requires 2 things: competitiveness and physical activity, therefore gaming is not a sport and gamers are definitely not athletes.
Chess = Game
Poker = Game
Autoracing = Sport (Barely)
Video Gaming = Game
Sport is physically demanding and competitive. Rule of thumb - if you can be competitively good at it when you're 50, then it's probably a game instead of a sport.
skateboarding is a sport. no ball what so ever.
The host is close-minded. There's no point talking to somebody who already made up his mind on something. This video is a clear example of that.
Saying League of Legends is a sport is like saying Bourbon is Scotch, there may be similarities but they are not the same.
Gaming is not a sport even though the skill it requires is there, but game shows are competitions that have skill and people watch they aren't considered a sport.
Gaming is not a sport it needs to have physical activity.
when the main dude brings up a lack of ball you should ask him what is the mouse would have a ball in it like old timey mouses.
I'm a gamer 30 hours a week. Gaming isn't a sport because you can't be sat on ass.
What he is missing is the team aspect. eSPORTS are team games. 5v5, 3v3, this cannot be compared to mountain climbing or other moot activities that he clings to as arguments. Teams going head to head in spectator competition is a sport. It doesn't have to be athletic. IT'S ABOUT THE TEAM.
In order for it to be classified as a sport, it must include physical exertion. While gaming does have competitiveness and the entertainment that other sports have, it does not have the physical exertion that sports do, therefore it can't be classified as a sport.
if you can be better than something and its entertaining then its a sport.
and it needs a score.
Xanstrom So flipping burgers is a sport as long as someone is keeping score lol.
Go outside
I'm a gamer and esports aren't sport. At least not in my definition, without a physical element I wouldn't consider it a sport, same goes for chess and poker. That's not to say there isn't skill but that doesn't mean it's a sport it just means it requires skill.
Comparing Virtual Sport and Sports is like comparing Virtual Reality and Reality.
Sports require movement.
caseybv74 they move their wrists with skill
Whole body must move.
Well in racing your whole body isn't moving yet it is a sport
What about dance dance revolution
The Lonely Boner DDR is a sport if you are allowed to mess the other person up.
By Ben's definition a sports video game like football is a sport.
Also professional esports players have a very limited age limit. Anyone over the age 25 wouldn't be considered a professional gamer because people lose a lot of hand eye cordination and reflexes to be able to compete in a tournament. In traditional sports that age limit is a bit more forgiving, with athletes competing in professional sports over 40. By that standard gaming would be more of a sport than any other sports.
It disturbs me that he has such a closed-minded vision on the world.
What did Ben mean by 'we're not Irish, its sports.' ?
3:08 - Boxing doesn't have a ball or something ball-like. Is boxing a sport?
Bottom-line is, it doesn't matter if something qualifies as a sport or not.
Is bowling a sport? Who cares? Is darts a sport? Who cares. Is curling a sport? Who cares?
If something qualifies as being a sport it doesn't make it better than something that doesn't qualify as a sport. ...and that's why it doesn't really matter.
Most people are wanting gaming to be a sport because they were never good at any real sports.
Instead of arguing over definition of "sports" I suggest you to look up "objective"
Video games require just as much hand-eye coordination as any sport, just as much concentration, just as much practice etc.
Geoff Baker Are you seriously comparing hitting a 100+mph fastball, or stopping a 100+mph slap shot with video game coordination.
Hand Eye coordination is the same skill no matter what you use it for. Tennis and baseball both use the exact same skill, does that mean it's the same thing to hit a tennis ball and to hit a baseball? Not even remotely, but it is the same skill.
hand-eye no just as much practice etc
You are an idiot
If chess is considered a sport than video gaming should be considered a sport. Regardless of the fact that it dies not require a lof or any physical activity it's a sport. In my personal opinion I don't see it that way, but I can not argue against it. It doesn't have to be physical. For example they brought up mountain climbing yet no one sees that as a sport. Now let's see this from Ben's perspective. "It has to require a ball." Well what about Track and Field, Boxing, Mix Martial Arts, NASCAR racing, drag racing, motocross, surfing, hell even skateboarding. Are those not considered sports? Then there's the fact that it's virtual. Well if it required the same amount of physical movement as it did in real life (even though it doesn't, but probably in the near future will) does it matter? This evolve, things change, just deal with it.
I don't think it should ever be a sport rather it should be a competition; like poker.
Skateboarding
Hockey
Badminton
Track
Field Events
Luge
Skiing
Boxing
Martial Arts
Shooting
Archery
Wakeboarding
Waterskiing
Caber Tossing
Cross Country
Bobsled
Speed Skating
Triathlon
Rowing
Weight Lifting
Every time she said sport in the beginning I just kept thinking about The Great Gatsby. Anyways it is sport.
i dont like the ball argument, because i'm pretty sure even ben will agree that boxing is a sport
I play video games. I also love sports. I like both and I still don't think gaming is a sport. Literally there are games of sports. It's like saying I'm playing basketball because I move a stick and Kevin Durant dunks a basketball. But I mostly agree with the final assertion. Why do video gamers care if they are considered a sport?
e-sport is not sport, but it doesn't mean it is inferior. Just like a cat is not a dog, but it is not inferior.
If Esports does become recognized as a "sport" throughout the world I hope they don't get payed as much as athletes. If they get payed 1 million+ it wouldn't be right. Athletes lay there lives on the line every game(I know thats hard to believe but to some extent they do). And they go through the physical endurance that could affect their lives in later years, for example muscle tears, broken bones, and even concussions can cause damage that could
be life threatening. Plus, athletes are already in controversy about how much they are payed
so here we are again~
So it's not sports, if it's not some sort of sports ball?
What Ben doesn't realize that he CANNOT just get good at a game. He seems to think that everybody can semi easily get good at a videogame, as opposed to something like baseball. That is just not true. I could spend 2 years playing a game for 5 hours each day and sure I might get good at it. But to play on a pro level takes so much more than just playing all the time.
A sport MUST involve physical activity, which gaming does not do. I play video games daily aswell im not being biased but its simple really.
But one thing in reaction Ben's argument about a ball or a puck. Sports like running, long jumping, high jumping, pole vaulting, cycling, etc, don't meet those requirements. But they are still considered sports. Regardless, as John said, the definitions do not matter, there is a market and fandom for it, and it's competitive, it also requires skill, practice and the ability to hold in your pee for long periods of time.
Oh and I love you Ben but I'd rather watch LOL and fighting game tournaments instead of baseball.
You do not use a joystick to play league of legends, chris keeps on saying joystick but those are only used in fighting games now like marvel vs capcom at EVO
Bens like I'm not knocking gaming. But he totally was
What's the point of this Debate? The younger generation will establish Gaming as a sport. Accept it or keep complaining.
*****
1. there is a difference between gaming (just consuming a game) and Esport.
2. Being slim isn't the definion of a sportsman (Sumo is a sport too).
***** just like your argument.
Is gaming a sport? Well, if you do you might as well call eating a sport
Martial arts have no ball. Is that a sport?
Jon made excellent points at the end.
Video Games, However much I love them, are NOT a sport.
+J Phoebus Clearly, when we talk about this specific topic of eSports, we're talking about professional level. Not some 360 no scope competition. There is clearly a difference.
Goalkeeper Moakai has a football for his sappling toss...
Why we want it to count as a sport?
I think the league player said it pretty clearly. We maybe dont want it to be called "sports" but we want the benefits... If an Esports player/athlete CANT enter the US to play in a tournament, because of visa problems its sad... BUT if they are considered athletes they can get the athlete's visa (i think its called P1 visa but im not sure). And there are many more benefits for "officially" recognized sports like government funding etc.
i think he's right that we shouldn't want to be sports. We should want to be better. It's like we're all still in highschool and even though we are fat nerds we want to be cool like the jocks who push us around and bully us. Fucking pathetic.
The people who try to argue that video games are sports are the same ones who have been made fun of because they don't play sports. You aren't active and do not physically do anything other than use a controller while playing video games. There is no physicality or even anything that could make gaming considered a sport. There are a bunch of people on here commenting that gaming is a sport and these people are stupid and blah blah blah, but they're on a sports channel with no topics containing video games other than the ones that talk about "is gaming a sport". People who are professional gamers are not athletes.
first of all, I play on my high schools basketball and golf teams. I also support that gaming is a sport. There is a strategic challenge and you need skill to play competitively in video games. My argument is that games are physical, since I have never seen anyone play a video game by just using their mind.
Racing is not a sport... Ok, i believe you Ben... The reason Baseball & American Football aren't a sport is because the breaks and everything in between the action isn't right. You have 10 seconds of action and 5 minutes of preperation and breaks for each 10 seconds
Lmfao please don't argue about football or baseball not being a sport you sound very unintelligent.
Raymond Reddington it's not... Nobody except for US call them sport
baseball is not a sport? excuse me? I'm not even into baseball but it's played all around the world.a good example, Asia loves baseball(specifically korea and Japan) and there are many other countries as well.
+TheAndredal you realize the USA didn't win the world baseball classic so obviously many other countries play and enjoy the sport of baseball
USA only cares about baseball? Tell that to Japan, Vietnam, Korea, Cuba (pretty much everywhere except Europe, Africa and Australia.)
All the people who want gaming to be a sport do so because they want so bad to be the jock, to be the popular athletic kid. You aren't. What you do is fine. It's a cool hobby. I'm glad you can make money doing it. But you're not an athlete. You aren't on the same level as a football player. You'll never date the cheerleader. Give it up.
They need to go outside like shit
If games are a sport, then so is chess.
Kim was losing it in the end haha
I agree with Ben that gaming is not a sport, definitely not, but Ben's definition of a sport is pretty idiotic. I mean, since when is having a ball or something like a ball a requirement? Is he saying that Floyd Mayweather, Michael Phelps and Usain Bolt aren't athletes that are engaged in a sport? I bet those guys are more fit and athletic than most baseball players and defensive linemen in american football. Plus, baseball is recognised as a sport by the IOC. The fact that a sport isn't featured in the olympics, doesn't mean it is not considered a sport by the IOC.