Is the cheapest 16 inch MacBook Pro really 'Pro'?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ส.ค. 2024
- The 16 inch MacBook Pro is here, and I ordered a base model to test out. In the past, the base model 15 inch MacBook Pro has been a tough one to recommend, with lesser graphics, puny storage, they just felt lacking in some way. The new 16 inch MacBook Pro changes things...
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I like that you analyzed the low end MacBook Pro 16" rather than a maxed out one that most of us can't afford. To know that this one bests a maxed one from the prior gen is a very convincing sell point.
The mid tier upgrade actually costs a grand less than what Luke paid for his iMac Pro 5K! At that price, its a value. Some people would want to keep the difference in their pocket. And because modern Macs can’t be upgraded after market, it makes sense to buy the specs you think you might need later now than be stuck with the base model that doesn’t anticipate possible future needs.
If you’re going to keep your Mac with you, an upgrade won’t hurt and if you do sell it, it will hold its value well.
I feel so sorry for everyone who bought a 2019 15" model in the last month.
Al van der Laan i knew this was coming but didnt want to wait especially since I didnt want to pay so much for what would be a machine I’d only use for ios development... so got a 2012 mac mini 16gb memory, 512gb ssd... $500.
I just bought one (picked up on Nov 6), saw the news on Nov 12, went back to Apple and returned the 15" and now I am waiting on the 16 :D
EDIT: P.s. I saved money by doing that and I even took it up to 1 TB rather than 512 GB.
A lot of them can probably return it.
If they bought it in the last month they can return it. The ones I feel bad for are the ones who bought it just over a month ago.
I bought mine in August. Fuck me.
10:11 WHERE HE CUTS TO THE CHASE
Thanks
after 10 minutes, limit, very cleverly done!
Thank you
MoW TV Thank you mate lol
saved me 10 minutes and from slight regret. thank you
Who wants to see a 14" MBP with the same upgrades?!
I just don't see a 14" being capable enough to be a pro machine no matter the upgrades... the form factor is amazing, but it comes at a performance cost.
Owen Perry In comparison, I think the 13 inch sells more so I can surely see Apple releasing a 14 inch next year.
What’s the SSDs Performance like? Are they the same as the 15 inch predecessor?
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@@elvst3331 The SSDs are the same I think. If not, they are very close.
Found this channel today and I can't stop binging these videos.
lol
I know, right? lol
@Taras Buria True
I found it over a yr and a half ago obviously i subbed right away .... It's great!!!! very informative and interesting vids, and Luke is a great host!!!! 👍👍❤️
Your username is the name of my WiFi
In short, yes.
The 5300M emasculates the Vega 20 for $800 less and you get double the storage for free.
Vablo Who cares about the Vega 20 being in an IMac? This is about comparing Macbooks.
@@vablo7198 xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
Vablo While not really a discussion for this video, there’s nothing wrong with using a MacBook for that workflow. Not everyone wants to be tied to a desk for their work. Is it the most efficient? Probably not. Does that make it wrong or a mistake? Absolutely not.
Vablo looks like you got creamed on
@@vablo7198 "The vega 20 will absolutely cream the rx 5300M when cooled properly" Except you're comparing them inside of a laptop from a company who is infamous for poor thermal design. For practical purposes it doesn't perform better, your average user isn't putting their MBP into a refrigerator to render.
Perfect video! I have a top-of-the-line late 2013 MBP that’s been serving me well for all these years, so great that you were able to directly compare the new model with that one. In 2020, I think it’ll be time to upgrade. Thank you!
Brilliant video! I've been looking for detailed comparisons between 15"/16" Macbook Pro's from different years, most other TH-camrs don't seem to understand that 99% of people won't be upgrading from the early 2019/2018 models... not everyone can afford $2500 every year, I myself have the top spec 2015 15", and I can FINALLY justify upgrading now, no more horrible keyboard, thermals, bad graphics, stupid costs for 1TB of storage etc etc... Seriously impressive review!
2:00 - Got my MBP 16 today and "Cut baby carrots" is absolutely spot on.
thanks for reviewing the entry level. I'm so sick of you tubers only reviewing the top of the line which isn't a realistic option for most buyers.
Fark! I love your vids. You seems to have one for every Mac ever made, so I always just go straight to your channel whenever I have so much as a mothertrucking idea of buying a Mac.
Thanks Luke!
Thank you. This was the video I was waiting for. You have earned a new subscriber.
Best review on this 16 inch MacBook Pro. I feel like you are really talking to us
THANK YOU for including the older Retina Pros. You were spot on, I have a 2013 Retina MacBook Pro, which, after running it at 100 degrees Celsius basically daily since I've bought it, still works fine. However, what used to be fast back then, ain't fast no more, so I'm looking to upgrade. Thanks again! 😊
Deejay JeanP Check our Turbo Boost Switcher, that will solve your temp problems for cheap.
first time coming across your video and it surprised me how good it is. I didn't know you'd dive this deep (with benchmarks and tests) judging from the video title alone so maybe make it more apparent and more people can see how great this channel actually is. cheers!
Super helpful! Thanks for all the time you put into these.
Finally I can replace mi Retina MBP from Early 2013 which has been the most reliable laptop I’ve ever owned.
Luke is God of the mac reviews. Older to much older models with the newer compare and bench tests and fcp test showing, that's what we want. Thank you man. If I still have to say something, maybe photo editing results are also something we want to see ... I still 🙂.
Theo GT ikr luke is the best
This is an awesome machine. Too bad Apple is a criminal syndicate that rips off customers like crazy.
Appleharmedme.blogspot.com
Luke! You’re the best source on TH-cam for MacBook Pro news and info.
Keep on!
Good recommendation sir. Thank you for making a video about this computer.
I'm all about that Shiki no uta lounge jazz intro. Sweet.
I felt like this video was made just for me.
I’ve had a Mac since the mid 2014 version and I’ve been tempted each year to upgrade.
Looks like it’s time!
Brilliant video, thanks!
still bought the 15" MacBook Pro 2019, and I am not disappointed yet, no problems with the butterfly keyboard, and I love typing with almost no key-travel!
Best Apple channel on TH-cam. Great comparisons and answering questions clearly with a fun vibe. Keep up the great work Luke!
i had my late 2013 mbp for 6 years now and i just upgraded to the 16” base model today. then i found this video and coulnd be happier about the purchase
You shouldve waited till now November cus the 2020 updates are coming now
Mad respect for using the samurai champloo theme, absolutely love that show :)
I'm glad I found your channel. I loved this review. I'm upgrading from a 2014 13 inch baseline MacBook Pro to the 16 inch which is gonna be like night and day. I'm most likely gonna get the base model and get the RAM and graphics upgrades.
I have a base model on order. Totally agree, it's nice to see them offering a great value.
0:16 that robo move :D Nice!
I'm here to feel good about my impulse purchase and I feel very darn good right about now!
This is a very well made, clean, no non-sense and quality content. My first video of Luke Miani. Hitting subscribe.
Was thinking of ordering the base version myself. Thank you for showing what it can do. I think I still might upgrade the GPU to the 5500M 8Gb just for future proofing though. I'm really glad Apple let's us use the higher GPU with all versions of this device and that it's only 100-200 dollars more.
This proves that Apple can do really great things when they actually give a shit.
If they gave “a shit” they would return it to upgradable memory and SSD - like it once was.
@marian roberto Jack, ironically Mac book pro is the only apple product worth buying from their entire lineup.
This is an awesome machine. Too bad Apple is a criminal syndicate that rips off customers like crazy.
Appleharmedme.blogspot.com
Exactly. But Apple gives more shit to ruin people’s lives and electrocuting people.
Appleharmedme.blogspot.com
@McBossBrine I am frustrated by my surface book which costed 2400 USD 4 yrs back. The screen is still the best that I have ever looked at, but it has a dual-core i7 with sloppy stereo speakers. On top of everything, Windows crashes every once in a while. And the battery just sucks. I just want everything to JUST WORK, instead of me being annoyed every once in a while by some teeny-tiny glitches. At least, Apple knows how to build a laptop that just works for its customers, instead of just throwing in fancy pieces of shit that wont even last long.
Spot ON!! I’m one of those “old retinas” owners upgrading! I’m coming from a 2012!!! Lol The first one!
I have still got my Late 2015, but now finally, I think it is time to upgrade, thanks for the video !
Thanks for the comparison! I have an early 2013 15” MBP retina. Most other reviewers see the performance improvement marginal from last year (rightfully so), but I’d bet most users neither upgrade MacBooks annually nor have reviewer specs/budgets. Great job on the video :)
Great review, my man, but you forgot to link to the Laptop on Amazon in your description.
It should be updated now, here’s the link if it’s not: amzn.to/2q810JH
@@lukemiani
I'm gonna buy now
Thank you for comparing it to the older Retina's, you NAILED EXACTLY my current curiosity on if I should upgrade from my MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Mid 2014). However, I may just wait to see if WiFi 6 and the next gen Intel CPU's make it into next years update (which I am hoping they do). Nevertheless, you really are making content that applies to me, so great work on knowing your audience!
Look, they finally got that keyboard fixed so you can upgrade! :)
same thoughts as yours, I have the same exact model as you do but i don't know if I would wait till the next upgrade. it has been too long
I am upgrading from the POWERBOOK G4
@Ryan I also have the mid 2014. My issue recently is when using Adobe Premiere I get a warning message about my graphics card. Have you run into this scenario?
@@josefrodriguez7441 I am using Final Cut Pro at my work so have not seen that.
Thank you thank you thank you. I say again, thank you. Best and most helpful review I have found and certainly helped my decision making. Perfect comparison to an older macbook too, which is super relevant. Alot of other reviews focus on the top end 16" model, with jacked up RAM, so not a relevant comparison. Slick editing and you left all the pertinent info in and delivered quickly. And I laughed at the jokes too. Thanks man! New sub!
4:15 I know, i actually looked at the measurements online to look at it, because i remembered that the new 2016 Macbook Pro was a smaller footprint. When i saw the measurements and even the weight, the 16" Macbook pro, is even lighter and still a hair smaller. So i might do the upgrade. But i want to buy the new Mac Pro first. And i'm going to buy the 16-core variant, so i'm going to safe my money for now. But you are the first youtuber who brings this up and i'm happy you did! :-)
I have the late 2013 Macbook pro and i was wondering if the new 16" was the same size. Thanks for pointing that out! Your the only youtuber who is comparing this macbook to the old retna macbooks! Vary helpful thank you!
Exactly the same MacBook I have used since and haven’t replaced that with this 16inch, I can see a big jump in performance and so on .
I had a 2013 MBP and replaced it with a new 16”. They are for all practical purposes the same size. Like a few hundredths of an inch different in each dimension, and about 0.1lbs difference in weight. You’d never notice the difference except side by side. So glad I waited until they made a laptop with a keyboard included.
@@jmcminn1076 I have a late 2013 MBP too, and this 16" is the first I've actually thought of getting in the last 5+ years. You think it's worth it?
@@paullynch4021 yes I do. This new 16" is finally a good MacBook again. I am loving mine. With a real power button and escape key, the touch bar is even growing on me. I got the 8 core i9/1TB SSD SKU rather than the entry one, but the entry one is a 6 core i7 and 512GB SSD, and would also make a damn fine computer. My only reservation on recommending it is actually that it won't run newer OS X than Catalina, which means if you rely on any 32bit software (such as Aperture), adjusting to Catalina can be a painful chore. In my case this laptop is a secondary machine to my desktop Mac Pro, so the forced Catalina upgrade is a dry run, but if you use a MacBook as your main computer, be aware of the 32 bit software deprecation in Catalina.
lacey rae physically the same size as mi Retina MBP from early 2013. That’s he meant.
“The box...smells like...cut baby carrots. That’s the best way to describe it.” Luke Miani ladies and gentlemen, a man of quality.
This is an awesome machine. Too bad Apple is a criminal syndicate that rips off customers like crazy.
Appleharmedme.blogspot.com
Thanks for comparing this to the Retina gen MacBook Pro!! I’m waiting for the Mac Pro and keeping my 2015 notebook-but this is the first time in a long time Apple has made an (almost) no compromise pro notebook.
Best mac-youtuber hands down. I click all of your videos at lightning speed
Now I’m tempted to save up for this one when I initially planned on saving up for the 15 inch 256 GB Macbook Pro lol
Same price, better specs, why not!!
Bryan G. Wait, it’s the same price as the 256 GB??? Niiiice
Justin M. From what I could see yes. Unless you are going used.
1:59 - You know you're getting quality when it smells like farm fresh carrots 😂
Its like new car smell. You never forget it. Why things come out of the factory smelling new, is something people haven’t been able to figure out. Its akin to a religious experience!
I watched your review on the trashcan Mac Pro the other day, which was great. I had this pop-up in my recommended videos and was extremely useful. Most other reviewers do direct comparisons to the 15" 2019 model, but I appreciate your comparisons to older models too (pre butterfly). I'm coming from a mid-2014 pro and I think I'm gonna upgrade. Cheers!
Your channel is so underrated ! Man your videos are amazing and super concise ! Love your channel ! New sub
Love the Nujabes’s song in the background
Samurai Champloo was pretty rad. RIP Nujabes
Guru Griff - tonight
I heard it too!!! Love champloo
5:00 you do realise that there’s an app called Mac fan control that lets you manually increase the fan speed or increase it when a certain temp is hit in a component (WiFi card, cpu, etc).
Nice video! Clear and well understood. Keep it going!
9:36 didn't know that, thanks!
By the way I think you really are my best Mac TH-cam channel I'm subscribed to 😊
16" - 2.3 8 core, Core i9 (Turbo 4.8) - 32GB RAM - Radeon 5500M w/ 8GB GDDR6 Memory - 2TB Storage. That's my guess because that's what I'm ordering. 🙂
Are you using it for 3D Modeling and Animation?
DPhoto those are the specs I ordered but I shelled out for the 64gb ram
Only 32 gb ram?
He might grab 64gb though
Exactly. I think it's the sweetspot for a content creator like Luke, with the most bang for the buck! I second this guess! Core i9 2.3Ghz, 32Gb, 2Tb and 8Gb 5500M!
1:55 oh no Luke dont turn into ijustine; smelling the boxes all the time lmao
My friends bully me for watching a girl TH-camr!
RunFor OurLives same, I also don’t see the attraction. I’d think many of her subscribers just watch her because she’s gIrL
I stay away from all female tech reviewers except Lisa Gade.
I bought a Mac for the first time, MBP 16, can confirm there’s a nice smell
Thanks for explaining how good the video editing is. I wasn’t sure if I would be okay with the base model for starting my youtube channel.
*great video Luke*
*I just bought the base Macbook pro 16*
*love it. Works great in final cut pro x.*
Been holding off with my mid 2012 MBP finally, I can upgrade.
I am as well lol. mine works perfectly still
Same here :-) Now its already three of us. Mine also still works perfectly :D
And what about the loss of good selection of ports? Is it something time will mend?
Daphne Max I use my Mac for professional work. A small investment in new USB c cables and dongles doesn’t really bother me. I’m looking for the speed boost in my workflow, which is the most important. This is also future proof.
What’s your 16 inch MBP specs, also using 2012 MBP, hope to earn more bough to upgrade later
Still waiting to upgrade my mid-2010 13 inch MBP ;)
Mid 2012 here
awesome👍🏼 i just ordered my 16 inch pro this morning!
Your video is literally exactly what I needed. I wanted to know if the base product would be enough and I'm upgrading from an old Mac book pro. Thanks a lot!
Apple gave up on "Pro" meaning professional when they went to soldered on memory and hardware storage protection so it can't be upgraded. I don't necessarily mind the port selection, professionals will probably have it docked when they want to use more than a flash drive anyway.
That’s the reason I’m not upgrading. Apple’s anti repair mindset is so funny it sucks. They took steps to ensure more efill waste. Then you hear Tim Cook talk about Apple’s contribution to environmental awareness. Oh really? He might want to go look in the mirror.
You got me at “Yes! Yes! Uhmm. Uhmmm. YES!” 😂😂😅
You’re the best!
I got the base model 2017 15 inch and have now upgraded to the base 16 inch and the difference to me is pretty significant especially with editing and in my work.
Great video,great review, nicely done and there was no condescending attitude on the base unit. 🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩
"A little bit older" as I watch this on my 2010 MBP 15 inch.
same here. maybe this is the one....
Im watching this on my 2011 15" MBP, but....... My new 16" MBP is sitting about 20' feet away in its box! This was the one worth upgrading to!
Me too. Upgraded to a SSD and 8gb RAM in 2017. Thinking about buying a used 2015 model.
Watching On The mid 2012
My late 2011 crapped out recently :(
"The box smells like cut baby carrots" - Luke Miani, 2019
edit: I called him Luke Miami lmao
Luke Miami is his secret adult movie identity 😉
Felt he was channeling FroKnowsPhoto there a smidgen ;)
You mean he is not Luke Miami?
@@EdgyShooter I was about to say that hahaha.
This is an awesome machine. Too bad Apple is a criminal syndicate that rips off customers like crazy.
Appleharmedme.blogspot.com
I got this exact same laptop a couple of weeks ago, I am a high school student graphics designer so I use all of the adobe cloud applications such as photoshop and illustrator quite a lot. And I am in love with is so much! I have no problems with it whatsoever, it's perfect for me, and probably perfect for people who are like me as well. Highly recommend👌🏼
I still have a late 2013 MacBook Pro, the reason I didn’t upgrade is from the keyboard and it’s problems. Now they did everything i would love in a MacBook Pro and would give me a reason to upgrade.
Same! My late 2013 has been great but finally apple has made something worth buying!
how about the ports and megasafe
@@BS33875 USB-C is a good port and buying 1 usb-c hub will be enough, and the megasafe is what i would miss.
Every time when my laptop lag when using android studio. I remember this machine.. :((
Now if only I had the money for it. I’ll just keep using my mid 09 MBP
Your review so much better than others . thanks!
Good review. I’m finally thinking to upgrade from my super reliable never failed me late 2013 MBP 13.
Although I was thinking what does he do with so many macs lying around? They aren’t cheap.
You thought no one would catch that "Shiki No Uta" rendition in the intro? 👌🏾 Noicee
C. Gooden I knew that sounded familiar, but I couldn't put my finger on it.
Oh my god I INSTANTLY recognised it.
Maaannnn ...i noticed it too and i thought i was the only one !
I love you guys ! for real !
Finally!!! A video that compares how different it is to an older mid 2015 MacBook Pro.
Really helped me consider taking the next leap!
Would you recommend using the extra budget to go for the i9 processor? Or using any spare budget to increase the graphics card ram and general ram from the base model?
Thanks so much for doing this video. So glad this appeared on my feed!
Always pertinent/good take on everything
Great review. Thanks
2:32
"Choose English as the main language"
Luke: "No"
That poor guy, that MacBook was coming straight for him.
Is Luke all right? xD
NEIN😂
He seems to be Spanish capable
Everyone outside the US knows English is the default language of idiots, have you been American lately.
@@christhund1145 i think lukes origin is italian, he look also like italian..
1:58 The box smells like money
Luke i just wanted to say that im really glad that you make these videos for us because they are first of really interesting and very enjoyable to watch. There is no one like you on youtube and ive been watching u for a long time. I would love to see you make reviews of apple product like Airpods pro and stuff. U have made me upgrade my own late 2009 macbook pro with an ssd and its useable i guess but i want more because im starting to make music now and it shows it age and when i go and study for graphic designer i need something way more powerful. I am currently working my ass off to go ahead and buy a macbook pro so i can do what my passion is. I only earn 3€ per hour but ill get there some day i guess! Keep on doing what ur doing and dont let anyone get you down because you are amazing and you have definitely deserved a spot in my heart.
Thanks for this test, Luke. I was just wondering if I should buy a stronger mackbook than the basic model for 4k movie editing. Now I know I don't have to.
i9 2.3 GHz, 1TB SSD, 8GB VRAM Graphics, 32 GB RAM
Look at me sitting here, waiting to hear the word "giveaway"
frank legacy lazy bastard
This is an awesome machine. Too bad Apple is a criminal syndicate that rips off customers like crazy.
Appleharmedme.blogspot.com
z00h eww... how uncivilized
Tanaka-kun wtf
張泰銘 stfu. Other than computers me and my entire family has been completely in the Apple ecosystem for years and never had problems
Excellent review
Your the best mac youtuber ! Love your videos and continue like that !
16" MBP is the first good thing after firing thin-and-light obsessed Jony Ive
Q Nguyen you do realise he oversaw the whole design production of this MacBook
@@ikBONK nor was he fired
Lucky Americans, we pay here in EU almost 3000 dollars for same computer.
With this MBP price I can pay 1 semester of my university lmao
@@TheCitizenship 😂
I pay 2450€ (Student discount) are you sure that it is still that high?
Anonymous lol in the Netherlands we lay 2100€ a year (2 semesters) in uni.
I have the 2014 rMBP 15.4" and I am really happy about this release. I never buy the newest available MBP so in 2-3 years when this one comes down in price on the used market I will be happy to own it from what everyone is saying about the keyboard, speakers, and the unit as a whole.
The Intro though. Nujabes-Samurai Champloo OP. Now that is some serious tunes, my man. Liked the video just for that!! :D
AAAAAHHHHH SHIKI NO UTA!!!! SAMURAI CHAMPLOO!!!!
8:38 umm Luke I’m a high school student without a job rn and I have a retina mb pro mid 2012 it’s gonna be a while before I upgrade cuz I’m broke
Sell that shit and buy a Thinkpad x230
rip, im legit in the same exact scenario :< (except that mine is mid 2015)
Dot32 Mid 2015 is more then good enough.
Watching this on my Late 2013 now. This is definetly the upgrade I've been waiting for.
Same here buddy.
Still driving my horse carriage, waiting for flying cars before I upgrade.
@@Andrew-tl9gk I know how you feel, though i am about to make a jump in getting this computer soon...
Thank you for your input
Im starting to think that they released the 8C Macbook pro 15 2019 just to get rid of some components they had on stock. Too bad I already went the windows way, but man can only wait for so many generation to see the same butterfly keyboard before upgrading to XPS...
Man, I just came from another review that was too elitist. He said to get the 32gb ram as bare minimum. You make the base model work. And is good already.
denniszenanywhere Don't listen to these idiots. Most of them return stuff after the review is done. Basic MBP 16 inch is a damn powerful machine.
Thank you, man!
I’m going to say you’ve ordered the config I’m awaiting :) MBP 16” 2.4 i9, 64GB RAM, 2TB 5500M 8GB Space Grey. And yes for me this is going to be a massive massive upgrade from my non-retina 2012 15” :) Roll on December 2nd (UK)!
2.3Ghz Core i9, 32GB of RAM, 1TB of SSD, AMD Radeon 5500 w/ 8 GB of VRAM
Skaterdye Productions same here 🤙🏽
That's the one I want for work. $3249, or in my country £3249 :/ :/
I bought the same but with 2tb ssd
@@mortizasthetripleg I'm considering it but I might just get some T5s instead for data
I will buy the best one, with 1 TB
I still would like the SD reader and Magsafe back
Marquinhos and upgradable memory (pre-Retina) and upgradable SSD (like the Retina). Until then, pass.
There are solutions to make your USB C split off like Magsafe. And they are not gonna bother with SD card reader, upgradability of SSD/RAM. They make more money by not doing them. So, very unlikely that they make a return.
They sell adaptors check amazon
Me too. But you’ll never get it back because APPLE HAS CHANGED.
Apple is a criminal syndicate that rips off customers like crazy.
Appleharmedme.blogspot.com
Really like your content.
I am going to replace my 12“ Macbook (2016) with the 16“ Base model.
I think Apple did a great job! Scissor keys, 512 GB base config, better graphics, same price 👍🏾
Literally on my way home from the Apple Store, where I was able to return the 15” MacBook Pro I just bought 23 days ago, to return it and exchange for the base model 16”. SO EXCITED after hearing your full endorsement. Keep up the good work Luke!
Hell yeah, you’re one of the lucky ones