Easy choice if it's going to sit on your desk most of the times. then get the 16 inch if you know you are travelling or just carrying it around, save yourself from frustration and get a 14 inch (coming from a 16 inch owner)
Definitely. 16" is pretty cumbersome to travel with. My office and home office daily is a16 and my airplane/roadtrip/coffee shop/etc is a 14. If someone is on the fence I'd say get the 14" and decent display for home.
Hey CJ, I was on the fence about this very subject... in fact I'm sitting here on the Apple store app trying to figure out which Mac Pro I want to spec out. I decided to watch some comparison videos and I so happy I came across yours. Your video plus reading the comments helped a lot. I will be going with the 16" mainly because I don't travel a lot and I prefer the screen real-estate for photo / video editing over the portability of the 14". Thank you and everyone in the comment section.
It's a hard decision for sure. I have 16" MBP M1 Max. It's great for around the house or maybe if you are going for an extended stay somewhere. If you are using it as a portable work device (I'm a sales rep, so multiple clients at multiple locations and a lot of time spent working in my truck or on a plane) I would go with the 14". The 16" is a wonderful laptop, but it is a bit of a beast and mostly sits on my desk with the occasional trip to another room. Rarely leaves the house. Update: I ended up trading in the 16" and getting a 14". For my use case it has been much better and a more enjoyable experience.
@@oscarsuarez4843 not sure but I don't think so, as the 16" has a little bit higher pixel count to compensate for the bigger screen than the 14" but overall both model should be exactly the same in terms of sharpness
That's true! I used to have a smaller computer until I upgraded to a 16 inch but boy it's super heavy especially traveling. And I do travel a lot.. Now I'm switching to 14 inch again. Lol
Same - I bumped the specs on the 14" M3 Regular Chip to 16gb/1TB to give some head room / future proof. Coming from a M1 13" Pro. I couldn't justify any more computer for me - I'm audio production with some photoshop and the odd bit of video. Going for a M3 PRO/MAX or 16" just too expensive / overkill. Being able to take the laptop places easy - eg to record a nice piano or a show somewhere then bounce worth more to me than the bigger screen and slaying 3D Video render apps.
My last two MBP (Intel) have been 16”, but these days I link them to a 32” monitor for photo Lightroom and Da Vinci resolve video editing so I don’t need that 16 inch screen any more. I’m gonna get the 14 inch which for portability is only 40 g heavier than the 15 inch MacBook Air. True
The tricky thing is, if you beef up the 14” and get more performance, you also get more heat…. Which if worse enough, will slow down the processing of the 14” due to the smaller fan. But I like the portability of the 14” ahh haha but screen realestate is also good. My head hurts :(
16" Macbook Pro due to the size of the screen, bigger area for palm resting, easier on the eyes, and larger track pad. I use my Ipad for traveling and watching movies on the plane. In class I prefer an Ipad and apple pencil for note taking rather than any laptop. My next laptop is likely the 15" air, perfect size and weight.
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I'd say cost would be another factor in deciding your screen size. I went for the 14", mainly for portability reasons. Went with the fully specced out M3 Pro with 36GB of RAM and the 4TB HD. I configured both the 16" and the 14" MacBook Pros, and there was a $300 (CAD) difference between the 16 and 14" models with the same exact specs. These MacBook Pros are no doubt expensive, so if you're looking so save a bit of money that would also be something to consider as well.
@@piki0126 You mean the binned M3 Max? I seriously thought about it, but I think the M3 Pro will more than suit my needs especialy considering i'm coming from an older Intel MacBook from 2017. I'm not really going to be using it for anything too extensive -- the M3 Pro should be more than enough despite the lesser number of GPUs and CPUs. I'd much rather save the $600 tbh.
@@high_fructose_cornsyrup wouldn’t it cost the same if u went down to the 2TB option, it just seems more cost efficient than more storage to me personally
@@piki0126 That's exactly what I did. Changed my order and ended up with the Max... I think it actually is the better machine to get, and 2TB should still be more than enough. Well played Apple... well played.
For me it is neither. Getting the next refresh of the Studio and using my base MacBook Air M1 for traveling. I don’t want to carry around an expensive laptop outside that can break or get stolen. Plus the studio gives more ports.
Really good video! I have the 16" MBP M1 and it's great but I do travel some and like going to coffee shops. I am seriously thinking about the 14". Thanks for your thoughts!
I love travelling, and, sometimes, I need to carry my laptop with me. I also carry it to work in cafés somedays. But I really like the larger screen and longer battery life of the 16". What would you advise me to do? Thank you.
16 inch for me. My laptop is pretty much a 95% home machine that i mostly only move between rooms and the screen is stunning and the speakers are the best you're going to get on any laptop. The difficulty is you can't get the base M3 and the Pro M3 chip is no longer very compelling compared to the M3 base or M2 pro - which leaves you spending 3-4k on a Max! Well played Apple. I think I just talked myself into a 4k laptop!
if you get the 14 inch, the pro is the max without thermal throttling as far as I can see. For me I'll return the base M3 14 inch and get a Max 16 inch 14/30, 36gb ram, 1tb SSD. also space black is too dark, I liked space grey, but instead I'll get silver.
My favorite TH-camr thank you again, I am buying the 16” M3 Max, Keeping my M1 13” Pro mit Touch Bar🥰 for when I travel, I can’t lie love my Touch Bar❤️🤗😉.
right now apples return policy is 1-2 months not just 14 days. anything you order before 25th Dec you can return by 8th... so can get both an try them out
As a video editor I always choose the option with more screen real estate. Sure it’s heavier and takes up more space but it’s still very portable, especially when you think about what these new laptops are capable of. This thing crushes my massive PC I built in 2017 in all ways. To have something under 5 lbs that can do anything I could ever ask of it is incredible, STOKED to upgrade. Thanks for the great video Chris Rock of tech reviews!! 😎
Well, of course it is going to beat your 2017 PC built. If you are comparing this with 2017 processor. If it comes to being close to Macbook as you are comparing it, then you agree that Apple products are just a fetish and trends that caters to the mass consumer, not true computer scientists or enthusiasts.
I picked wrong but I haven’t got it yet so I’m taking it back to the store to swap it out for a different one for about £330 more Edit: 14 “ M3 MacBook Pro (base model with 8GB Unified Memory) to 14” M3 Pro MacBook Pro
I just bought an M3 Pro with 36 GB of RAM and 1T SSD. My old Macbook lasted 10 years. So, I think this new Macbook will be good for another 5 or 10 years. 16" screeens does not appeal to me. I have a 32" monitor for more real estate for work. I am going to do a lot of travel this Summer and the portability of the 14" Mac will suit me better.
@@entvoker 14" would be best for uni student on the move between classes. In the dorm room, get 32"+ monitor to connect to the laptop. I got a 32" LG monitor about a year ago for around $130.00 from Costco. You can probably can get a bigger, better monitor for the same price today.
I wish I would have gone with the 16 over the 14. I use to have the 16 and it was too big but the 14 has a scene comparable to my iPad Pro 12.9..... so I have a very powerful iPad now lol. but I do have it set up with 3 monitors so that's nice...
6:53 - I think the size of the palm rest is the same. The trackpad is smaller in the 14 inch, but the palm rest looks the same if we align the edges of the trackpad.
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Thanks for the video!! I love travelling, and, sometimes, I need to carry my laptop with me. I also carry it to work in cafés somedays. But I really like the larger screen and longer battery life of the 16". What would you advise me to do? Thank you.
I've been watching a bunch of videos regarding the differences between the 16-inch and 14-inch Pro and Max since I have the opportunity to get a laptop (my first MacBook ever) but I still haven't made up my mind. I'm rarely traveling far from my home (mostly to school, cafes, or other nearby cities). I’d use this laptop for school and editing; PPT presentations, documents, writing essays, editing photos, watching videos, (sometimes playing minecraft or roblox)…etc. Could anyone help me decide what to get? I still have 2 weeks time before I get it. 😁
other than size and aesthetics would it be better to go for the 32gb RAM on a 14'?? or would the unbinned chip with the extra cores can outmatch the performance from the 32gb Ram on the 14'??
I really don’t mind the weight of the 16”…. For portability I understand those that go smaller. But then it would have to be a MBA. The 14” has always been a weird product IMO after they offered the air.
depends. the air is not as specced out and sn't ideal for people that need portable performance. ie video editing, game dev, serious software dev, etc. Also video/photography and graphics professionals prefer the screen quality and peripherals in the 14" vs Air.
Personally as someone own 16” MBP on Intel, I prefer the larger screen real estate of 16”. However, most of time I am connecting the MBP to 38” monitor, as such, I don’t see huge benefit of 16” MBP. I will pick 14” but beefed up the processor M3Pro, 36GB, 1TB SSD.
r u satisfied? I also have an intel mac, but I want to upgrade to m3 max, but I can't decide on the display. I edit quite heavy projects with a lot of color correction and graphics, but I use an additional display. I don't understand how to act better, maybe u could share your experience
The choice of MacBook Pro ultimately depends on the specific demands of your work and your budget. If your profession involves intensive video or photo editing, particularly if you’re a digital content creator, the M3 Max chip could provide significant advantages. However, for lighter tasks in video and photo editing, the M3 Pro chip is more than sufficient. Since you mentioned that your projects involve a lot of color correction, having an additional display is also important. While the 27-inch 5K Retina Studio Display is an excellent choice, there are other options like the BenQ PD3225U that you might consider. Personally, I decided on the 16” MacBook Pro with the M3 Pro chip because I value the larger screen when working on the go, and I’ve found the improved cooling and speakers on the 16” model to be beneficial. I also use the CalDigit TS4 to connect my 16” MacBook Pro to a 38” monitor when I’m at my desk. The M3Pro chip, 36GB RAM, and 1 TB SSD run smooth like butter without fan noise. I hope this helps with your decision!
@@sglatitude thank you so much for that full answering! it really helps! i think that I will choose 16ʼ due to priority in stability and high-quality cooling. I think that if you choose between a PC and a laptop (which already provides mobility), you can give up half a kilo for greater stability. Thanks!
Another issue with the 16 inch MB Pro is the edge of the front of the notebook will generally rub against the wrists as the distance from the keyboard and front edge for the 16 inch notebook is much larger than the distance for the 14 inch notebook even when typing in the correct position. However, if the notebook is in fact being used as an actual laptop rather than desktop, this is not an issue since the elbows are at or above the notebook surface.
I am also concerned about this… I thought it was my idea after typing a bit with it at the store I visited couple of times. But something doesn’t feel right I don’t know. I want to use it mostly placed on my desk with no external monitor or keyboard
I had a 14 inch M1 MB Pro and traded it in for a 16 inch M3 Pro MB Pro. After using it for six months, I decided to sell it and get the 14 inch MB Pro M3 Pro. The 16 inch was just too heavy and cumbersome for me. The 14 is perfect!
that's awesome. So you got used to the smaller keyboard and screen of the 14in? its definitely more portable; its a nice machine. I just got one after having a 15in for 10 years.
I got the 16 inch and this is my first mac, was expecting light weight, but heavier than expected. Overall performance im satisfied though. Still learning MAC
I had the old dell xps 15 (which is as big as the 16"MBP) as soon as i used the 13" xps I stopped going out with the 15". Trust me if you go out a lot with the laptop then that portability is a huge factor
Great video, terrific job. Kudos. As a music producer, maybe you can do some performance tests with Logic Pro. The reason this would be valuable is bc GPU, efficiency cores, graphics performance, ray tracing, Mesh, dynamic caching, and all the other bells and whistles of M3 variants have no value at all in Logic and Ableton and other DAWs. That's all just eyewash for music production. In music, it really is all about the sheer number of performance cores, and to a lesser extent how fast they are (all M3 P-cores are the same, from M3 to Max and beyond). And currently, 6 is the highest M3 P-core count. But how would the 8-core option (4 P-cores), 11-core option (5 P-cores) and the 12-core (6 P-cores) compare? That would help music producers make the better choice, where all the other differences between 14" and 16" don't really impact performance all that much, other than thermals, and that the base 14 has but one fan. And as a music producer, I hope you find this interesting: It's not an empirical test, but I took your audio samples and did a Match EQ in Logic Pro. The 14 and 16 do sound about the same, but they are not the same. There are a few little peaks and valleys in the freq response that stand out. At certain frequencies, the 16 is 5-7 dB louder than the 14, seven instances: 80, 190, 800, 2.3K, 2.5K, 3.3K, and 10K. At other frequencies, the 14 is 5-7 dB louder than the 16, also seven instances: 240, 350, 500, 1.3K, 5K, 8K, and 16K. That was not quite what I expected. If anything, I expected maybe a smooth rolloff or increase at maybe high end or low end. But that revelation notwithstanding, bottom line, in your full mix, they do sound pretty identical other than what you pointed out, and that is likely bc the peaks in the 14 spectrum analysis happen at higher frequencies than those in the 16 analysis. And that is of course with actual music and a smoothing factor of 4. Increase that to 24, and it's a bit more revealing, in that the 16 is about 2 dB louder below 700 Hz, while the 14 is about 2 dB louder above 700. I'm not sure why you compared the 11-core to the 12-core. Obviously they will perform differently, and typical stress tests include those bells and whistles I mentioned, which have no bearing on music production other than mudying the waters. The 14" can be configured as 12, identically to the 16". In fact, those are the two I am considering. One surprising thing is that due to the way Sonoma is configured, in tests with otherwise-identical configuration where one has a 1TB SSD and the other has a 512, where both have two nand chips and therefore the same I/O bandwidth, the 1TB slightly outperforms the 512. I consider the term 'binned' to be a misnomer, which implies that unbinned is somehow superior to binned. In reality, all chips are binned. The 12-core is likely designed with more than 12 cores, bc that will increase the yield without increasing the cost. Assume it is actually designed with maybe 14 cores, and one may yield 14, another 13, another 12, another 11, and another 10. That's just the reality of yield. They would take the 14 and 13 and disable the extra cores, then 'bin' that as a 12. The 12, they'd disable the two that didn't cut the mustard. It has 2 cores that didn't make the grade, yet 12 cores did. The 11, they'd disable the extra core and bin that as an 11. The 10, they'd toss. That gives them a yield of 4 out of 5. Yield would be lower if they designed the chip with only 12 cores. And who knows? Maybe those that yield at 14 will appear as a 2024 option? The exact same structure, the exact same chip, but 'binned' as a 14. That would fit Apple's typical marketing strategy like a glove, without the cost of designing an entirely new M3 chip.
Thanks for the detailed post and test! As a beat maker myself I am planning on getting a Macbook M3 Max (been on windows for over 20 years haha). Regarding more power I do think that the M3 Max definitely has more to offer than the M3 Pro, that's why I'm going for that one.
How about 14” MacBook Pro vs 15” MacBook Air? One gives you higher refresh rate and brightness, the other a larger screen…and price likely close if the 14” goes on sale…hmmm
I bought a 14" MBP M1 Max and love it except for the 14" screen. I am old so eyes aren't what they used to be and recording music with Ableton that has a lot of little things on screen it get hard for me to read even with the excellent screen on the MBP. So my issue now is sell the 14" and buy a 16" or just buy a external monitor to use with the 14".
monitor completely changes the experience for the better but ONLY at the desk so its up to you on the trade off cause the 16 also is annoyingly big and heavy to move around with but provides such a better experience out and about
Hi CJ, thanks for this informative video. Could you help me decide between 16" M3 Pro/36GB/1TB in $2850 and 14" M3 Max/36GB/1TB in $3050. My main work is Programming, Medium Heavy Video editing, Graphic Design and some animation. I'm looking for a model that's future proof. I heard max consume more battery than Pro version?
The 16 inch model is portable and the 14 inch model is not portable. When you need to move around a lot, it's more convenient to work with a larger monitor, and when you have an external monitor connected to your macbook all the time, it's more convenient to have a smaller macbook.
Why is the performance better of the 16" if it's the same chip, or were you just comparing base 14" m3 pro with base 16" m3 pro. And what did you mean by bend and unbend? The 12 core vs the 11? Thanks!
I own an M one iPad Pro 12.9 inch, could you do a comparison video on what laptop to choose for owners of iPads?. You could side cart the iPad to get more screen real estate and often times the iPad screen is just perfect. What would you do if you had an option to have the iPad and the 14 or 16 inch
@@TheAscendedHuman My 13” M1 was a birthday gift and I got it on release day. It was amazing but the screen was small so I waited for the M3 16”. Once I got it was too heavy to carry around so I decided to keep my 13” The joys of having both.
@@TheAscendedHuman They get use almost everyday. My gf and my guest use the M1 around the house. The M3 is always in my bed, and I game every chance I get.
@@TheAscendedHuman 1st off… My parents and sister come to visit me all the time. If they need to use my M1, I always have it available for anyone who wants to use it. My M3 is not for gaming. Why would I game on a MacBook lol. I bought the M3 because I wanted a bigger screen and liked it when I went to the Apple Store. Yes I also have a Gaming PC and every console in my game room. Whats the problem?
But cj the weight of the 16 inch is balanced out by your wallet becoming lighter?? no?
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No lies were told with that statement 😂
Sadly this is a true statement!
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Sadly your wallet will be “lighter”…
Easy choice if it's going to sit on your desk most of the times. then get the 16 inch if you know you are travelling or just carrying it around, save yourself from frustration and get a 14 inch (coming from a 16 inch owner)
Definitely. 16" is pretty cumbersome to travel with. My office and home office daily is a16 and my airplane/roadtrip/coffee shop/etc is a 14. If someone is on the fence I'd say get the 14" and decent display for home.
Hey CJ, I was on the fence about this very subject... in fact I'm sitting here on the Apple store app trying to figure out which Mac Pro I want to spec out. I decided to watch some comparison videos and I so happy I came across yours. Your video plus reading the comments helped a lot. I will be going with the 16" mainly because I don't travel a lot and I prefer the screen real-estate for photo / video editing over the portability of the 14". Thank you and everyone in the comment section.
unbelievable comparison touched on every point i was looking for, keep it up man well done
It's a hard decision for sure. I have 16" MBP M1 Max. It's great for around the house or maybe if you are going for an extended stay somewhere. If you are using it as a portable work device (I'm a sales rep, so multiple clients at multiple locations and a lot of time spent working in my truck or on a plane) I would go with the 14". The 16" is a wonderful laptop, but it is a bit of a beast and mostly sits on my desk with the occasional trip to another room. Rarely leaves the house.
Update: I ended up trading in the 16" and getting a 14". For my use case it has been much better and a more enjoyable experience.
14 inch MacBook looks sharper ?
@@oscarsuarez4843 No, screen resolution and brightness are about the same. just easier to travel with.
@@oscarsuarez4843 not sure but I don't think so, as the 16" has a little bit higher pixel count to compensate for the bigger screen than the 14" but overall both model should be exactly the same in terms of sharpness
That's true! I used to have a smaller computer until I upgraded to a 16 inch but boy it's super heavy especially traveling. And I do travel a lot.. Now I'm switching to 14 inch again. Lol
14 inch for me. Weight and size are key for me. I travel all the time. Rather sacrifice screen real estate than the convenience of portability
Same - I bumped the specs on the 14" M3 Regular Chip to 16gb/1TB to give some head room / future proof. Coming from a M1 13" Pro. I couldn't justify any more computer for me - I'm audio production with some photoshop and the odd bit of video. Going for a M3 PRO/MAX or 16" just too expensive / overkill. Being able to take the laptop places easy - eg to record a nice piano or a show somewhere then bounce worth more to me than the bigger screen and slaying 3D Video render apps.
@@TheAscendedHuman You forget one key upgrade reason - touchbar. I wanted rid of the touchbar!
Try balancing that 16" beast on an airline tray table. I'll take the 14 over the 16 every day of the year.
My last two MBP (Intel) have been 16”, but these days I link them to a 32” monitor for photo Lightroom and Da Vinci resolve video editing so I don’t need that 16 inch screen any more. I’m gonna get the 14 inch which for portability is only 40 g heavier than the 15 inch MacBook Air. True
That is the EXACT video in my mind when i was searching, thank you bro! Appreciate your work!
I’m glad it delivered. Thanks
nah literally!
The tricky thing is, if you beef up the 14” and get more performance, you also get more heat…. Which if worse enough, will slow down the processing of the 14” due to the smaller fan. But I like the portability of the 14” ahh haha but screen realestate is also good. My head hurts :(
same dilemma, what did you choose? @AlexNelson-jo5qv
@@oceanelucas6469 I found a MacBook m1 with 32gb haha works a treat
16" Macbook Pro due to the size of the screen, bigger area for palm resting, easier on the eyes, and larger track pad. I use my Ipad for traveling and watching movies on the plane. In class I prefer an Ipad and apple pencil for note taking rather than any laptop. My next laptop is likely the 15" air, perfect size and weight.
Have both the 16in M1 Pro MBP and 14in M3 Pro MBP. Honestly, if you could only have one then I would go with the 14in because of the portability.
Summary: just buy whatever and try it for three years, after that you will know what you really need and want.
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I always go for the bigger screen and maxed out on everything.
Cool story. Thank you for sharing.
i appreciate this story as well. Excellent
Just copped the 16. I carry so much gear on the daily, I’m good
I'd say cost would be another factor in deciding your screen size. I went for the 14", mainly for portability reasons. Went with the fully specced out M3 Pro with 36GB of RAM and the 4TB HD. I configured both the 16" and the 14" MacBook Pros, and there was a $300 (CAD) difference between the 16 and 14" models with the same exact specs. These MacBook Pros are no doubt expensive, so if you're looking so save a bit of money that would also be something to consider as well.
you should look into the M3 Max with what you are paying it might be a tiny price difference for a much better laptop.
@@piki0126 You mean the binned M3 Max? I seriously thought about it, but I think the M3 Pro will more than suit my needs especialy considering i'm coming from an older Intel MacBook from 2017. I'm not really going to be using it for anything too extensive -- the M3 Pro should be more than enough despite the lesser number of GPUs and CPUs. I'd much rather save the $600 tbh.
@@high_fructose_cornsyrup wouldn’t it cost the same if u went down to the 2TB option, it just seems more cost efficient than more storage to me personally
@@piki0126 That's exactly what I did. Changed my order and ended up with the Max... I think it actually is the better machine to get, and 2TB should still be more than enough. Well played Apple... well played.
@@high_fructose_cornsyrup same thing happened to me. I upgraded the m3 pro slightly and ended up with a base m3 max 😭
Just ordered a 14 inch with the same chip as the 16 inch and 1tb of storage. So hyped
Love the side by side comparisons
For me it is neither. Getting the next refresh of the Studio and using my base MacBook Air M1 for traveling. I don’t want to carry around an expensive laptop outside that can break or get stolen. Plus the studio gives more ports.
I got the 16 with M3 Max coming on the 16th of Nov, This is my first Apple silicon coming from a intel base Mac Pro 7,1
A wise man.
How you like it bro bro I’m thinking about 16 m3 mac 36gb ram and 2tb ssd
Really good video! I have the 16" MBP M1 and it's great but I do travel some and like going to coffee shops. I am seriously thinking about the 14". Thanks for your thoughts!
I love travelling, and, sometimes, I need to carry my laptop with me. I also carry it to work in cafés somedays. But I really like the larger screen and longer battery life of the 16". What would you advise me to do? Thank you.
16 inch for me. My laptop is pretty much a 95% home machine that i mostly only move between rooms and the screen is stunning and the speakers are the best you're going to get on any laptop. The difficulty is you can't get the base M3 and the Pro M3 chip is no longer very compelling compared to the M3 base or M2 pro - which leaves you spending 3-4k on a Max! Well played Apple. I think I just talked myself into a 4k laptop!
apple is getting really good at ignoring palm touches on trackpad
if you get the 14 inch, the pro is the max without thermal throttling as far as I can see. For me I'll return the base M3 14 inch and get a Max 16 inch 14/30, 36gb ram, 1tb SSD. also space black is too dark, I liked space grey, but instead I'll get silver.
My favorite TH-camr thank you again, I am buying the 16” M3 Max, Keeping my M1 13” Pro mit Touch Bar🥰 for when I travel, I can’t lie love my Touch Bar❤️🤗😉.
I got the 15 inch M3 love it perfect size
right now apples return policy is 1-2 months not just 14 days. anything you order before 25th Dec you can return by 8th... so can get both an try them out
As a video editor I always choose the option with more screen real estate. Sure it’s heavier and takes up more space but it’s still very portable, especially when you think about what these new laptops are capable of. This thing crushes my massive PC I built in 2017 in all ways. To have something under 5 lbs that can do anything I could ever ask of it is incredible, STOKED to upgrade. Thanks for the great video Chris Rock of tech reviews!! 😎
Right! especially for that video editing timeline space. Lol😂
Well, of course it is going to beat your 2017 PC built. If you are comparing this with 2017 processor. If it comes to being close to Macbook as you are comparing it, then you agree that Apple products are just a fetish and trends that caters to the mass consumer, not true computer scientists or enthusiasts.
I picked wrong but I haven’t got it yet so I’m taking it back to the store to swap it out for a different one for about £330 more
Edit:
14 “ M3 MacBook Pro (base model with 8GB Unified Memory)
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14” M3 Pro MacBook Pro
I just want the wallpaper from the thumbnail
I just bought an M3 Pro with 36 GB of RAM and 1T SSD. My old Macbook lasted 10 years. So, I think this new Macbook will be good for another 5 or 10 years. 16" screeens does not appeal to me. I have a 32" monitor for more real estate for work. I am going to do a lot of travel this Summer and the portability of the 14" Mac will suit me better.
How do you like it so far?
@@yunosan9222 I love it! It is such an improvement over my old system.
@@jl696 would you suggest 14' over 16' for uni student? And if you don't mind, what's the name of your monitor? Thanks
@@entvoker 14" would be best for uni student on the move between classes. In the dorm room, get 32"+ monitor to connect to the laptop. I got a 32" LG monitor about a year ago for around $130.00 from Costco. You can probably can get a bigger, better monitor for the same price today.
2:00 that's what she said... 😔
I wish I would have gone with the 16 over the 14. I use to have the 16 and it was too big but the 14 has a scene comparable to my iPad Pro 12.9..... so I have a very powerful iPad now lol. but I do have it set up with 3 monitors so that's nice...
Do like a 3 day workout program and you’ll build enough strength to make them feel the same.
I almost couldn’t even tell a weight difference in store.
Love the bigger screen for photo editing
Good video. Love the way you say "Display"
6:53 - I think the size of the palm rest is the same. The trackpad is smaller in the 14 inch, but the palm rest looks the same if we align the edges of the trackpad.
Thank you dude!
Good job on your video review on the new M3💻Pro 👍🏻
How does the new black color space compare? Some TH-camrs are claiming it scratches and smudges easily compared to the silver color.
First time I rolled in, CJ, and I’m smiling happy that I did! What a wonderful, balanced and well paced presentation…whew, quite a bit of surely felt but unseen skill behind its making. Thank you, sir-you’ve certainly got the goods. Being a seniorish citizen and mostly a castle-bound worker now, I’m thinking 16s my number.
As for the set-up, if I will be using this device to edit photos…Photoshop-Lightroom-Luminar, as well as do simple research in the Web and enjoy movies and videos, what would your recommendations be? I really, and I mean really am looking forward to your reply. So thanks for it! As for right now, we’ll, I’ve got to work my way through all your other vids, and if they are at this level of gooditude, I’m gonna be a busy boy for hours to come.
Many thanks--I loved this one. Onward… Will
I like mini led more than oled
A well produced video sir.
Thanks 🙏🏾
Good info!!!. Another consideration is many ppl have another monitor and keyboard/mouse. So for me weight is the only consideration.
Good vid, I would go with the 16 but might as well wait an see how the m4s look like.
I went 14” but it runs on my 42” LG C3 Oled display
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Hi, I would buy your setup, all goes well ?
Thanks for the video!! I love travelling, and, sometimes, I need to carry my laptop with me. I also carry it to work in cafés somedays. But I really like the larger screen and longer battery life of the 16". What would you advise me to do? Thank you.
Buy (alternative): MacBook Air M2 15" or MacBook Air M3 15"
Mini LEDs better than OLED.
Great content. Great host. Thank you.
Thanks
I've been watching a bunch of videos regarding the differences between the 16-inch and 14-inch Pro and Max since I have the opportunity to get a laptop (my first MacBook ever) but I still haven't made up my mind. I'm rarely traveling far from my home (mostly to school, cafes, or other nearby cities). I’d use this laptop for school and editing; PPT presentations, documents, writing essays, editing photos, watching videos, (sometimes playing minecraft or roblox)…etc. Could anyone help me decide what to get? I still have 2 weeks time before I get it. 😁
What size are you leaning towards and why? (always follow your gut)
Good video!
Thank you!!
The price difference is 900 $ that is to much of a difference for two inches
other than size and aesthetics would it be better to go for the 32gb RAM on a 14'?? or would the unbinned chip with the extra cores can outmatch the performance from the 32gb Ram on the 14'??
Ram all the way bro
Where did you get that wallpaper?
I really don’t mind the weight of the 16”…. For portability I understand those that go smaller. But then it would have to be a MBA. The 14” has always been a weird product IMO after they offered the air.
True, though with the MBP you also get additional external display capability compared to the MBA.
depends. the air is not as specced out and sn't ideal for people that need portable performance. ie video editing, game dev, serious software dev, etc. Also video/photography and graphics professionals prefer the screen quality and peripherals in the 14" vs Air.
its always better to have an extra 2 inches........
This demonstrates that it is possible to be a "tedious old fool..." under 30.
Very good video
I don't know how other publishers do it, but it shouldn't be too difficult. Please add multiple languages to subtitles. Especially Turkish 🙏
kg's and cm's added to the video for reference would be awesome for the lucky continental system viewers!
CJ all you had to do was follow the damn train!
you better have returned one of em macs cus thats too much extra money
Bigger is always better ...
For someone thats new to Macbooks. Whats the difference between binned and not binned MacBooks?
Different version of CPU chips. One has less CPU Cores and GPU cores than the other giving a slight performance difference
@@CJKnowsTECH Thank you so much!
I can't stand reviewers that won't commit to a side on recommending a product. Another wishy washy reviewer appealing to the OEM's...
U will fil it.
For me, the differences, the application, Vivid, it makes the display 50% brighter so I'm getting the 16 inch MacBook Pro
the displays are not the same by the way. the 16" is a 3.5k display and the 14" is just below 3k. also why do you say display like it's two words?😂
Its so weird how American review always assume that you will use your laptop allot on flights 😂
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Personally as someone own 16” MBP on Intel, I prefer the larger screen real estate of 16”. However, most of time I am connecting the MBP to 38” monitor, as such, I don’t see huge benefit of 16” MBP. I will pick 14” but beefed up the processor M3Pro, 36GB, 1TB SSD.
r u satisfied? I also have an intel mac, but I want to upgrade to m3 max, but I can't decide on the display. I edit quite heavy projects with a lot of color correction and graphics, but I use an additional display. I don't understand how to act better, maybe u could share your experience
The choice of MacBook Pro ultimately depends on the specific demands of your work and your budget. If your profession involves intensive video or photo editing, particularly if you’re a digital content creator, the M3 Max chip could provide significant advantages. However, for lighter tasks in video and photo editing, the M3 Pro chip is more than sufficient. Since you mentioned that your projects involve a lot of color correction, having an additional display is also important. While the 27-inch 5K Retina Studio Display is an excellent choice, there are other options like the BenQ PD3225U that you might consider.
Personally, I decided on the 16” MacBook Pro with the M3 Pro chip because I value the larger screen when working on the go, and I’ve found the improved cooling and speakers on the 16” model to be beneficial. I also use the CalDigit TS4 to connect my 16” MacBook Pro to a 38” monitor when I’m at my desk. The M3Pro chip, 36GB RAM, and 1 TB SSD run smooth like butter without fan noise. I hope this helps with your decision!
@@sglatitude thank you so much for that full answering! it really helps! i think that I will choose 16ʼ due to priority in stability and high-quality cooling. I think that if you choose between a PC and a laptop (which already provides mobility), you can give up half a kilo for greater stability. Thanks!
36gb is the main reason. 8g won't cut it
I use 14" and iPad for screen extension and portability, plus the iPAD has other handy features.
Another issue with the 16 inch MB Pro is the edge of the front of the notebook will generally rub against the wrists as the distance from the keyboard and front edge for the 16 inch notebook is much larger than the distance for the 14 inch notebook even when typing in the correct position. However, if the notebook is in fact being used as an actual laptop rather than desktop, this is not an issue since the elbows are at or above the notebook surface.
I am also concerned about this… I thought it was my idea after typing a bit with it at the store I visited couple of times. But something doesn’t feel right I don’t know. I want to use it mostly placed on my desk with no external monitor or keyboard
I had a 17 inch older gen and that was goofy big pause took up too much space
I had a 14 inch M1 MB Pro and traded it in for a 16 inch M3 Pro MB Pro. After using it for six months, I decided to sell it and get the 14 inch MB Pro M3 Pro. The 16 inch was just too heavy and cumbersome for me. The 14 is perfect!
that's awesome. So you got used to the smaller keyboard and screen of the 14in? its definitely more portable; its a nice machine. I just got one after having a 15in for 10 years.
I got the 16 inch and this is my first mac, was expecting light weight, but heavier than expected. Overall performance im satisfied though. Still learning MAC
I had the old dell xps 15 (which is as big as the 16"MBP) as soon as i used the 13" xps I stopped going out with the 15". Trust me if you go out a lot with the laptop then that portability is a huge factor
Great video, terrific job. Kudos.
As a music producer, maybe you can do some performance tests with Logic Pro. The reason this would be valuable is bc GPU, efficiency cores, graphics performance, ray tracing, Mesh, dynamic caching, and all the other bells and whistles of M3 variants have no value at all in Logic and Ableton and other DAWs. That's all just eyewash for music production. In music, it really is all about the sheer number of performance cores, and to a lesser extent how fast they are (all M3 P-cores are the same, from M3 to Max and beyond). And currently, 6 is the highest M3 P-core count. But how would the 8-core option (4 P-cores), 11-core option (5 P-cores) and the 12-core (6 P-cores) compare? That would help music producers make the better choice, where all the other differences between 14" and 16" don't really impact performance all that much, other than thermals, and that the base 14 has but one fan.
And as a music producer, I hope you find this interesting: It's not an empirical test, but I took your audio samples and did a Match EQ in Logic Pro. The 14 and 16 do sound about the same, but they are not the same. There are a few little peaks and valleys in the freq response that stand out. At certain frequencies, the 16 is 5-7 dB louder than the 14, seven instances: 80, 190, 800, 2.3K, 2.5K, 3.3K, and 10K. At other frequencies, the 14 is 5-7 dB louder than the 16, also seven instances: 240, 350, 500, 1.3K, 5K, 8K, and 16K.
That was not quite what I expected. If anything, I expected maybe a smooth rolloff or increase at maybe high end or low end. But that revelation notwithstanding, bottom line, in your full mix, they do sound pretty identical other than what you pointed out, and that is likely bc the peaks in the 14 spectrum analysis happen at higher frequencies than those in the 16 analysis. And that is of course with actual music and a smoothing factor of 4. Increase that to 24, and it's a bit more revealing, in that the 16 is about 2 dB louder below 700 Hz, while the 14 is about 2 dB louder above 700.
I'm not sure why you compared the 11-core to the 12-core. Obviously they will perform differently, and typical stress tests include those bells and whistles I mentioned, which have no bearing on music production other than mudying the waters.
The 14" can be configured as 12, identically to the 16". In fact, those are the two I am considering. One surprising thing is that due to the way Sonoma is configured, in tests with otherwise-identical configuration where one has a 1TB SSD and the other has a 512, where both have two nand chips and therefore the same I/O bandwidth, the 1TB slightly outperforms the 512.
I consider the term 'binned' to be a misnomer, which implies that unbinned is somehow superior to binned. In reality, all chips are binned. The 12-core is likely designed with more than 12 cores, bc that will increase the yield without increasing the cost. Assume it is actually designed with maybe 14 cores, and one may yield 14, another 13, another 12, another 11, and another 10. That's just the reality of yield. They would take the 14 and 13 and disable the extra cores, then 'bin' that as a 12. The 12, they'd disable the two that didn't cut the mustard. It has 2 cores that didn't make the grade, yet 12 cores did. The 11, they'd disable the extra core and bin that as an 11. The 10, they'd toss.
That gives them a yield of 4 out of 5. Yield would be lower if they designed the chip with only 12 cores. And who knows? Maybe those that yield at 14 will appear as a 2024 option? The exact same structure, the exact same chip, but 'binned' as a 14. That would fit Apple's typical marketing strategy like a glove, without the cost of designing an entirely new M3 chip.
Bro i think for Logic even m1 with enough ram will handle anything you throw at it.
Thanks for the detailed post and test! As a beat maker myself I am planning on getting a Macbook M3 Max (been on windows for over 20 years haha). Regarding more power I do think that the M3 Max definitely has more to offer than the M3 Pro, that's why I'm going for that one.
How about 14” MacBook Pro vs 15” MacBook Air? One gives you higher refresh rate and brightness, the other a larger screen…and price likely close if the 14” goes on sale…hmmm
They definitely have different sound profiles I thought the 14 M3 sounded clearer but like you say the 16 has a bigger lower end soundstage.
This definitely helped in my choice bro. 16 is for me 📌 great comparison
Glad it helped
I bought a 14" MBP M1 Max and love it except for the 14" screen. I am old so eyes aren't what they used to be and recording music with Ableton that has a lot of little things on screen it get hard for me to read even with the excellent screen on the MBP. So my issue now is sell the 14" and buy a 16" or just buy a external monitor to use with the 14".
monitor completely changes the experience for the better but ONLY at the desk so its up to you on the trade off cause the 16 also is annoyingly big and heavy to move around with but provides such a better experience out and about
just get external displays. so you have big displays and portability with the 14 inch :)
The memory difference is the main reason for 16". 8GB isn't really pro level. Fast processors mean nothing without proper memory.
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Hi CJ, thanks for this informative video. Could you help me decide between 16" M3 Pro/36GB/1TB in $2850 and 14" M3 Max/36GB/1TB in $3050. My main work is Programming, Medium Heavy Video editing, Graphic Design and some animation. I'm looking for a model that's future proof. I heard max consume more battery than Pro version?
Please measure the thermals. Put them under heavy load. Nobody has both the 14 and 16 macbook pro m3 pro. Thank you
The 16 inch model is portable and the 14 inch model is not portable.
When you need to move around a lot, it's more convenient to work with a larger monitor, and when you have an external monitor connected to your macbook all the time, it's more convenient to have a smaller macbook.
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Get my sub for the fact that you covered all the info I was looking for
I prefer the 16" because of the larger screen, better battery, better sound, larger trackpad and better performance.
Why is the performance better of the 16" if it's the same chip, or were you just comparing base 14" m3 pro with base 16" m3 pro. And what did you mean by bend and unbend? The 12 core vs the 11? Thanks!
I own an M one iPad Pro 12.9 inch, could you do a comparison video on what laptop to choose for owners of iPads?. You could side cart the iPad to get more screen real estate and often times the iPad screen is just perfect. What would you do if you had an option to have the iPad and the 14 or 16 inch
I utilize both lol. My 13" inch M1 for my guest to use and when I travel. My 16" M3 stays at home and doesn't leave the house.
@@TheAscendedHuman My 13” M1 was a birthday gift and I got it on release day. It was amazing but the screen was small so I waited for the M3 16”. Once I got it was too heavy to carry around so I decided to keep my 13” The joys of having both.
@@TheAscendedHuman I have a gaming PC too. I’m a tech nerd bro…
@@TheAscendedHuman They get use almost everyday. My gf and my guest use the M1 around the house. The M3 is always in my bed, and I game every chance I get.
@@TheAscendedHuman 1st off… My parents and sister come to visit me all the time. If they need to use my M1, I always have it available for anyone who wants to use it. My M3 is not for gaming. Why would I game on a MacBook lol. I bought the M3 because I wanted a bigger screen and liked it when I went to the Apple Store. Yes I also have a Gaming PC and every console in my game room. Whats the problem?
Does M3 Max 16'
40 core, 64gb ram and 2TB draining the battery faster?
In other words....make your choice, based on your needs.
For coders I recommend 16 inch.
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