Intel 16 inch MacBook Pro: is it good enough?

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    The 16 inch MacBook Pro came out over a year ago, but it's still the current model as far as Apple is concerned! With new Apple Silicon MacBooks expected to land later this year it begs the question: is the 16 inch Intel MacBook Pro worth buying in 2021? New or used? Or would it be smarter to wait for Apple Silicon to land?
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  • @vincentallen6797
    @vincentallen6797 3 ปีที่แล้ว +203

    Ended up buying one 2 months ago and think it's amazing. Had to get a macbook for starting audio engineering school, and M1 is not an option because of compatibility. Buy what you need when you need it. If you keep waiting and waiting, you will never be happy and will stay without a computer.

    • @nickdubesa8068
      @nickdubesa8068 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The m1 versions run most non native applications very well under emulation. Was it actually not compatible with audio engineering though?

    • @vincentallen6797
      @vincentallen6797 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@nickdubesa8068 Compatible with Rosetta and some being native, yes. Stable? Faar from it.
      A lot of the DAW softwares and plugins will work but there’s some issues with crashing/interruptions as well as legacy plugins and software straight up not working. Pro tools is just now getting official support via Rosetta, but it’s not to the point where it will run native and be as stable as a native app. While an M1 would probably be great for someone who isn’t going to be relying on the computer working to make their living (or get through school in my case), I need a system that’s rock solid, compatible with every program I use, and will have zero issues so I don’t waste people’s time when trying to deliver a finished product. And my school is highly suggesting students still go for intel models until M1 support is more developed.
      This could be a completely different story come a year or two, and that would be great cause these chips are awesome. The music software industry is unfortunately incredibly slow with updating things. Still have to run Catalina so things don’t break, tried Big Sur and it was not fun lol.

    • @rahulghoshm7046
      @rahulghoshm7046 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      do u have any audio pop issues??

    • @vincentallen6797
      @vincentallen6797 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rahulghoshm7046 I don’t have any of those, you shouldn’t have any issues with this much cpu power typically

    • @FactFlix3
      @FactFlix3 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      OOGH OOGH OOGH

  • @PilotPerkins
    @PilotPerkins 3 ปีที่แล้ว +198

    I love my 16”. It’s nice to have bootcamp to avoid gaming workarounds. It’s a decent Mac with a decent PC. Two functional operating systems in one device.

    • @daniellevanacker
      @daniellevanacker 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Does it not have really bad overheating and loud fans tho? That’s a no go for me :/

    • @saftige_orange
      @saftige_orange 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@daniellevanacker Actually not as bad as the 15 inch from mid 2015
      In loger Gaming sesions in Bootcamp and GTA 5 medium/high setigns + Macs Fancontroll at 40-50 FPS .It sits a round 80 °C. Yea u can hear the fans running under bootcamp but under MacOS i never heard them ramping up realy loud so. An i did some heavy task like many open safari taps and a light Game in the background.

    • @GoldPunch
      @GoldPunch 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Bro it should be more than decent. I spent 3500 dollars for this 😭😭

    • @Ka_T_ya
      @Ka_T_ya 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Won’t get windows 11 on it.

    • @jameschen8
      @jameschen8 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@daniellevanacker ofc there’s going to be loud fans...

  • @TheGloriousLeader
    @TheGloriousLeader 3 ปีที่แล้ว +224

    "is it still good" man, this device is still top tier. I view this as a portable 21.5" Intel iMac. I love the video and acknowledgement of the used market. Buying used on these devices is a must nowadays.

    • @HellNaw98
      @HellNaw98 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      If it was a portable version of the crappy 21.5” iMac then it would be a lot slower

    • @TheGloriousLeader
      @TheGloriousLeader 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@HellNaw98 I’m talking the 4K retina model.

    • @mahaining4540
      @mahaining4540 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      As a user of a 21.5-inch iMac with a Retina 4K screen for almost three years, this computer does not really fit me. For me, the disadvantage of this computer would be 8GB of memory, and the Fusion Drive, especially the Fusion Drive, is really horrible.

    • @jambononi
      @jambononi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's top tier in the same way Michael Jordan was still top tier at the age of 40. But you wouldn't pay money for something that is about to become almost half as valuable in 2 or 3 months. Selling one of these in the autumn is going to be real painful for current 16" users who can't quite get their work done efficiently enough. I had the the i9 with 32gb ram and it was still choking a little on some of my work. And it was so unbelievably expensive

    • @obitosaldivar1876
      @obitosaldivar1876 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jambononi thermals dude it’s good hardware but the chasis is too thin i recommend you either put in some really good thermal paste and put a thermal sponge on the heatsink and use the bottom plate as a extra heatsink or you can sell it while you can before this shit cuts it’s value in half

  • @anthonybrooks7996
    @anthonybrooks7996 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    watching you in 4K on my 16 inch macbook. the detail! my 16 inch pro was made in may this year and so far im loving it, theres some software glitches now and then, but the speakers and screen are amazing!

  • @bajnaj73
    @bajnaj73 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    I bought a used one and can get almost the same amount when I trade it in. Also older eyes love bigger screens!

    • @denysivanov3364
      @denysivanov3364 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I have 21 inch 2017 IMac and its really great. I have myopia (bad large distance vision) Even 21 inches allows me to watch youtube in 1.2-1.5 meters. Really good stuff from eye strain point of view. PS: I want 30 inch future IMac pro :)

  • @nigelholland1811
    @nigelholland1811 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love my mbp16”, makes me smile whenever i turn it on. The sound is awesome the bigger screen is great. I really do not notice the fan noise.Never had a problem with Touch ID taking too long ,maybe I’m just not in that much of a hurry. Certainly no regrets here. Love your videos Luke. Especially like the repair /makeover ones. Uk viewer.

    • @rahulghoshm7046
      @rahulghoshm7046 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      do u have any audio pop issues??

  • @arvinsim
    @arvinsim 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    It is still good - 16" MBP owner 😛

    • @NormanF62
      @NormanF62 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In ten years you can get the Apple Silicon MBP with upgraded specs used for a reasonable price. Then it will really look good compared to when it was new! You’re a chump spending the Apple tax knowing the depreciation factor and Intel Macs still have s lot of life left in them.

    • @locnes2133
      @locnes2133 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@NormanF62 ok...

    • @rahulghoshm7046
      @rahulghoshm7046 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      do u have any audio pop issues??

  • @danielcontreras9343
    @danielcontreras9343 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    These are my absolute favorite videos from you man. Exactly what I needed to know.

  • @anthonybush3134
    @anthonybush3134 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I picked up a 2019 MBP 16 inch at the pawn shop for 720$. its space gray nd looks brand new and the inside is very Clean and only has 70 charge cycles on the battery

  • @RyanDunton
    @RyanDunton 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Purchased my 16" last summer. Has been an amazing Mac and Windows machine for me. The only downside is the power management, as it kills the battery. But I wasn't going to keep waiting for a new computer that may or may not come.

  • @jackspring7709
    @jackspring7709 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I bought mine last summer. Although it pained me to pay out that amount of money it's one of the best things I've ever bought - and runs all my software with no problems whatsoever. Delighted with it. TBH I haven't noticed mine overheating, it's mostly cool to the touch and the only time it makes noise is when I'm working on something complex in Final Cut Pro.

  • @svvervinmedia
    @svvervinmedia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I bought mine new in early 2020 and it's been a workhorse for video edits and general productivity! That being said, I'll definitely upgrade to an M1 machine (after using a base M1 air for DD) in the same form factor if I can get good multi display support and more gaming power for those work trips.

  • @zedgraphics00
    @zedgraphics00 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m a graphic designer working on a late 2013 MacBook Pro running big sur, and it still working like a beast!!

  • @andril
    @andril 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i need that layout great video

  • @BlazingPhoenix05
    @BlazingPhoenix05 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I love, love my 16 inch i9 Intel Macbook! And it is about 7-8 months now and works much better than my pc. I love having Final Cut Pro on it! I got it with 32GB and 1TB specs! I can wait a few years to upgrade to the M1 16 inch. No problem. I find the Intel 16 inch to be still quite snappy and of course the graphics is great! Oh yeah the fans, I found that my macbook is actually quieter than my pc laptops😱. I do hear the fans but they seem a bit quieter to me🤷‍♀️
    Great information Luke!!!

    • @rahulghoshm7046
      @rahulghoshm7046 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      do u have any audio pop issues??

    • @BlazingPhoenix05
      @BlazingPhoenix05 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rahulghoshm7046 Surprisingly my audio is great! The quality out does the audio of the pc which have had those pops. My PC laptop had some bad pop issues within a year of owning it. So far my macbook has been solid with the sound and I love it with blue tooth headphones.

  • @FoamandStuff
    @FoamandStuff 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    You should do an update video in 2023 with 2023 used prices.

  • @duringthemeanwhilst
    @duringthemeanwhilst 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've had mine (core i9, 1TB) for 18 months. Had to replace a cracked display but otherwise had zero problems. When brand new I had the temp and fan issues. Did an SMC re-set and no problems since . I only get fans very occasionally when rendering video. For everything else it stays nice and cool. After 30 mins of watching YT it is actually cool to the touch.

    • @prateekvaish1541
      @prateekvaish1541 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      How much did screen replacement cost?

    • @duringthemeanwhilst
      @duringthemeanwhilst 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@prateekvaish1541 around £600 at an Apple Store Prateek

  • @BruceBurke
    @BruceBurke 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have the same kind of a love/hate relationship with my 2019 16” MacBook Pro. This one will definitely be up for sale when the new matte black model is released.

  • @DanielRodriguez-fg5ll
    @DanielRodriguez-fg5ll 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice video, a particular issue I noticed missing is that in the MBP versus the M1, you can go to 32 or even 64GB ram... lets see if apple offers those options in teh M-based, as memory being integrated in the SOC, it should be very very expensive to produce those 32 and 64gb options.

  • @Epicgamer_Mac
    @Epicgamer_Mac 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love your vids Luke
    I’d be happy with one of these 16” Intel MBPs… but only bc I already have an Apple Silicon one!

  • @arlencarlson
    @arlencarlson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    For me, I would not have a problem spending full new cost on the 16” Intel…possibly even when the Apple Silicon version comes out. Still a valuable machine. Although I think the best option would be buying off Apple’s refurb list which brings it in at a discount.

  • @ononaokisama
    @ononaokisama 3 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    I couldn’t/can’t wait for apple silicon to be usable in my field. I need windows x86 emulation and dedicated graphics. I just bought the 16 inch i know it is being phased out but apple silicon needs more features for me before i can use it in my field.

    • @flako6096
      @flako6096 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      what do you do? or work in

    • @Carlos970
      @Carlos970 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I saw your description in the about session on YT... I've been a mac user all my life, spamming from the early 90's, I'm a gamer as well, was using bootcamp for a while but the truth is... you and I need a PC running windows, either amd or intel and Nvidia graphics for our gaming endeavors, gaming on a mac, even the latest mac pro, yeah that oen that cost the same as a fully loaded tesla truck, it just simply wrong, doesnt feel as good as a windows PC built for gaming does.

    • @vincentallen6797
      @vincentallen6797 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same here, audio production still has a long way to go until we have full stable compatibility ;-;

    • @igorlima7280
      @igorlima7280 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’m a engineer and need the Autodesk products, most part are only for windows.
      My dream would be their adoption to those new macs .

    • @berkinerengurman1401
      @berkinerengurman1401 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Igor Lima I am an industrial design student i am using autodesk and similar CAD programs too and they doesn’t work stable even on intel cpus I can’t imagine how bad is the emulator so I bought 13 inch 2020 4TB macbook pro 4 months ago

  • @rickienilsson5088
    @rickienilsson5088 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Got a 16 inch MacBook Pro i9 8 core 16 GB RAM 1 TB SSD. Never had better, I can run 10-20 apps at the same time without any performance issues and everything just works. Loving it!

  • @jnuno9877
    @jnuno9877 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I have one that bought new with a great discount
    Still is amazingly fast after ~2 years

  • @Boomtowndogs
    @Boomtowndogs 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a 16” i9, 5500m, and I use activity monitor to close intensive apps running in the background. Fixed all fan issues. My creative cloud always opens in the background and sends my temps to max until closed. Then it runs cool

  • @justwatchingnothingmore
    @justwatchingnothingmore 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm definitely getting one of these very soon

  • @MatthewSenaratne-es3lk
    @MatthewSenaratne-es3lk 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I had an old hp lap top that had the fans the second I turned it on but when I bought this MacBook Pro mid 2019 I was so surprised of how little the fans turned on compared to my old hp laptop! D o not complain. I still love this video!😊

  • @donnguyen3795
    @donnguyen3795 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I moved from windows to a MBP 16, after a month I would say the 16' is the best laptop I have ever used

    • @pablokoelo4549
      @pablokoelo4549 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same here with macbook M1 :)

    • @nguyenthehien3034
      @nguyenthehien3034 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      same here with the M1. I can even use it on bed with mattress surfing internet and writing documents.

    • @donnguyen3795
      @donnguyen3795 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Islandstyles the mbp 16 offer something that a windown laptop can't: a smooth big trackpad that sometimes I forgot I have a mouse, strong battery life that survive through more than 3 hours, good speaker.

  • @lynda777
    @lynda777 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love my larger MBP - I have a 13" that I frankly hate the size, but it is maxed out on everything. I use for different purposes.

  • @WelcometoVideoCity
    @WelcometoVideoCity 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always enjoyable. But would love to see another 'buying a pile of old gear and repairing' them vid.

  • @Joshmakey12
    @Joshmakey12 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got a 4 port 2020 13 MacBook Pro as a replacement for my 2017 13 base model MacBook Pro due to keyboard issues. Pretty nice computer.

  • @LeeStewart
    @LeeStewart 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I still have my 16-inch i7 MacBook Pro from two years ago and it's great. I've recently purchased the M1 Mac mini, which'll be my main desktop computer but what I don't like about the M1 MacBook Pro is its port limitations. I had a 2017 13-inch MacBook Pro and I found only having two USB-C ports very limiting. The only thing I don't like about my 16-inch is the heat, it's very hot to the touch and I have to use Software to cool it down.

  • @AA-flyguy
    @AA-flyguy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent Video!!!, this is SUPER SMART AND USEFUL information. Thats why we watch 👍👌🙏

  • @fggonzalez18
    @fggonzalez18 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Ordered mine last week. 8-core, i9, 16bg ram and 1tb of storage for 750$
    I think it's a great deal, this machine should last me for at least 5 more years

    • @simplymzkira
      @simplymzkira ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Where?

    • @simplymzkira
      @simplymzkira ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@fggonzalez18 check what out? Where did you buy the laptop from?

    • @krystle8090
      @krystle8090 ปีที่แล้ว

      from where

    • @fggonzalez18
      @fggonzalez18 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@krystle8090 Amazon, $750 from the refurbished seccion. I'be been able to edit big project on premiere pro/after effects (video editing apps), and large lightroom galleries with no problem. I'd recommend it to anyone looking for a pro machine 10/10

  • @agudam
    @agudam 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought the base model 16" MBP right after when it was launched and I have no complaints with it aside from the fans going into overdrive occasionally, but after I got myself a case with air vents, and replaced Safari with Edge, the fans and temperature weren't as aggressive anymore. The phenomenal speakers on it and the large screen size totally justify my purchase. And I agree with the advantage of being able to charge from both sides.

    • @Blakesworld17
      @Blakesworld17 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can you link the vented case!?

    • @agudam
      @agudam 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Blakesworld17 I'm not being allowed to share the link but any hard shell case will do. Most of them usually come with vents on the bottom piece.

  • @bryans8656
    @bryans8656 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bootcamp is what I miss most since I moved from the 2018 Mac mini to the M1 Mac mini.

  • @Geek2go
    @Geek2go ปีที่แล้ว +2

    just got a 2019 i7 16GB 512GB W/ AMD Graphics configuration used for $700. I saw that's pretty good value. With a very limited budget, and not able to quite afford what I want in the M1... I opted for used. There's still some great value in the 2019 versions, I think especially for users that are using graphic intensive applications. However you bring up one really good point that might get me to flip this computer and try to shoot for an m1 or m2... and that's the FAN noise. I hate fan noise. So if it's as noisy as you say then that will probably be what I do.

  • @codenamefrenchfries3282
    @codenamefrenchfries3282 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just bought myself an M1 Macbook Pro 16Gb of ram and I love it. I was hoping that the 14in was going to be available before I go to school in August but it's not so RIP.

  • @lorenzocorro1517
    @lorenzocorro1517 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I own a 16-inch MBP with Radeon Pro 5500m and I think it just works for me coz I'm always travelling but I still like to game whenever I can (on bootcamp of course). Would definitely consider just replacing the 16-inch with an M1 and another Windows laptop but I guess it's really not worth the hassle of carrying around 2 laptops. Love the video btw!

  • @mustasheolll2020
    @mustasheolll2020 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love you man you’re very blunt in a good way

  • @Zhinix04
    @Zhinix04 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think it depends on what it's for.. I love my 16". and my M1 mac mini. very different machines, each great for its use. I don't get the complaining about noise though.. I haven't had any issues with it. sure, it spins up when the AMD card is active as expected, but otherwise, rare to hear them at all unless I put the machine to work.

  • @soberhippie
    @soberhippie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    8:57 Luke Miani goes stereotypically Italian

  • @thebandthatisDAVE
    @thebandthatisDAVE 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love my 2019 16 Mac Pro! It’s now 2024 and my music and video recording and editing is first class!

  • @MikeDancy
    @MikeDancy ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just paid $700 for a 2019 MBP i9-9980 16GB/1TB. great condition.

  • @karenwang313
    @karenwang313 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just bought a 2017 pro and cant get over how quiet it is. My thinkpad collection all randomly turn on their fans whenever they feel like it even if they've been idling for a day or something. That said, at least they have good keyboards.

  • @MikeVlcek
    @MikeVlcek 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I wanna see Luke doing a video about BeamNG now that he’s shown it here! Ahahah

  • @anupammahato1
    @anupammahato1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    hello luke, i have a question regarding buying a refurbished macbook should i buy a i9 5500m 1tb macbook or a base m1 air i do edit 4k videos and use lightroom, mostly on my laptops and occassionally watch movies

  • @LivingByFire
    @LivingByFire ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm really contemplating selling my 15" 2017 2.9 Macbook Pro to upgrade to a 2019 i9. I am debating whether it is worth it or not. I will need to use native Windows apps (one being Quick Assist for family tech support), some light gaming, and other things. Thoughts?

  • @BitsOfBen
    @BitsOfBen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have the 16inch MBP for a year now. It will do me fine for now.

  • @LSM_Lover
    @LSM_Lover 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Iv got a late 2011 MacBook Pro, 2TB SSD 8GB ram, runs AMAZING

  • @kevinlong4657
    @kevinlong4657 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had the 16" and I loved the speakers but the screen actually kinda sucked. It has very slow pixel response times that made scrolling look obnoxious "ghosting" .. there are many forum threads about this. Definitely hope it's better with next generation of MBP . I never had this problem with my 15.4 models.

  • @modigady1
    @modigady1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Will the Intel MBP be compatible with all of the features that macOS Monterey? If not, that would make the 2016-2019 16” MBP an even less enticing buy in my opinion.

  • @ruffprophetproductions
    @ruffprophetproductions 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I sold my base model last week. I’ll miss it a little, but got an m1 air for work. Probably going to build a crazy hackintosh later this year, unless m1x comes CRAZYY

  • @samuelnbrown
    @samuelnbrown 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Luke. Had an idea for a video you could do during these lean product times. Recently had to reexport an old docu project I did in Final Cut Studio. I had to do a 10.12 install on my MBP 2015. Was expecting the i7 with DG to crank through the editing and rendering compared to the Core2Duo I had at the time. The experience was shocking and it was obvious why. Would be fun to see you do a video that illustrates just how far pro editing has come using an apples to apples comparison (intended). Also just remembered, June was the 10th anniversary of FCPX. I know you love to experiment with old tech. (Sending from my 16". I can write youtube comments in silence, at least.)

  • @nonsecular13
    @nonsecular13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Traded my 16 for the 24 iimac while the trade-in value was still decent

    • @hbbbhh1592
      @hbbbhh1592 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      How much did you get for it?

    • @nonsecular13
      @nonsecular13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@hbbbhh1592 I have the base 16 and got 1410 not great but I bought it at a discount of $1900 new a few months ago

  • @cpagoals
    @cpagoals 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I bought this beast last May and I am a little bummed after the new releases, but it still is a power-horse and it does everything I need it to. Still hoping i'll get a few years out of it, thankfully I got the i9 one open box for only $2200 instead of $2800 ❤️ Plus I'd still pay extra any day for the bigger screen

  • @skarootz
    @skarootz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Put sections in your video to go directly to what I'm interested too. In this case, battery and heating.

  • @lgmarquez5469
    @lgmarquez5469 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I got one for $850. The guy hated it because he was a graphic designer and hated the overheating to the point that he sent it to apple and got a new one from apple. But ended up buying the M1 Max instead. He wanted $1,000 I got him down to $850. This thing was brand new. It only had 18 battery cycles. Plus i'm a Finance major really wont be pushing this device to its limits. A great upgrade from my 2013 Macbook Air.

  • @misaki13e46
    @misaki13e46 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just remembered that apple screwed up with the thermals on that models, switching to ARM help them to keep the same design without getting a considerable heat on use. Love the keyboard of the MBP 16 hope Apple fix some bugs related to speakers and stuff

  • @tomvreugdenhil1490
    @tomvreugdenhil1490 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I myself have the 2019 16" MBP with the i9 and use Bootcamp heavily for my engineering study. It is a great and powerful machine, but boy do the fans blast when using windows 10. I'm really looking forward to the new MacBook Pro's and can't wait until virtual machine software truly supports Apple Silicon in combination with an ARM-based version of windows 10.

    • @Argameus
      @Argameus 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Weird, it makes you feel like Windows 10 is running in a VM.....

    • @tomvreugdenhil1490
      @tomvreugdenhil1490 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Argameus What do you mean? The performance in windows 10 is very good, the machine just gets hot easily.

    • @Argameus
      @Argameus 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tomvreugdenhil1490 I have a much older Early 2013 15" Macbook Pro. The fans turn on the second I boot into Windows, with no program running. The experience just doesn't "feel" native.

    • @tomvreugdenhil1490
      @tomvreugdenhil1490 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Argameus You could check your temperatures using macsfancontrol in windows and determine if the fans could spin at higher temperatures only

    • @Argameus
      @Argameus 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tomvreugdenhil1490 Thanks for the tip.

  • @DamianNocun
    @DamianNocun ปีที่แล้ว +1

    MBP 16 i9 or Air M1? I will get one of those as company laptop but which to choose ?

  • @mcmaskell
    @mcmaskell 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    hahahahaha that deep voice edit was so funny

  • @fabianortiz1712
    @fabianortiz1712 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Got one couple weeks ago with the i9, 1tb and 64gb of ram for cybersecurity. Running windows bootcamp and kali linux on VM. So far so good

    • @magicthug9595
      @magicthug9595 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I bought this exact setup brand new off Amazon (in late 2020) it makes me sad to see the other new M3 Mac’s (m1 & m2 previously) getting so much praise, even hearing they will stop software updates for intel soon sucks. But I did purchase with intention to future proof, so like yourself my 16 inch 2019 mpb is 1 tb 64 gb ram. Only at 100 battery cycles, used to use my laptops alot before the pandemic and am getting back into video production again for my business. Look like this still is an amazing machine to me. Still have M3 envy. Just curious I spent 3500 on my set up brand new on Amazon. What did you pay you a few months ago for your new 2019 set up

  • @eafortson
    @eafortson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    As a member of the music producer community I can absolutely assure you we NEVER got numb to that fan noise. It’s genuinely the thing I’m most excited about for the M1X I’m waiting to upgrade to and is the single reason I wouldn’t even entertain the idea of buying a 16in intel Mac. Not even for 0 dollars.

    • @brian_obino
      @brian_obino ปีที่แล้ว

      So, the fan noise is that bad?

    • @eafortson
      @eafortson ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@brian_obino it’s atrocious bro. I kept my computer fairly clean (fresh installs regularly to remove bloat) also dusted it at least every 3 months. It was just the thermal constraints that meant heavy would would spin up the fans every time. I’ve since upgraded to the M1 Max never looking back. It’s a whole new world. Fans are never audible ever. Like never ever

    • @Damciii
      @Damciii 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@eafortsonI approve this message

  • @jeffreyprokopowicz9842
    @jeffreyprokopowicz9842 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No mention of the very nice "studio quality" mics.

  • @dskehn
    @dskehn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    are 15in touchbar macbook pros still worry it?

  • @kentrelltaylor5697
    @kentrelltaylor5697 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just bought my 16 inch Mac book pro with the I9 processor for audio engineering . works perfect!

  • @jeffrey3498
    @jeffrey3498 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have an M1 MBA but love my 16" MBP.

  • @jzeaidrovo43
    @jzeaidrovo43 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I recently bought a MacBook Pro 16 i7 and with the Radeon 5500m for $725. I think it’s a smart purchase since it’s more powerful than the M1, you have the latest generation that will have touchbar and boot camp, in the long run it can be a relic for the world of Apple.

    • @abednego8304
      @abednego8304 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      please where did you get it? I need to get mine.

  • @LiveForLoss
    @LiveForLoss 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Still rocking the 17 inch pro. I hope one day we can get 17 inch screen again.

  • @josued8a
    @josued8a 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What about running VMs (real work Virtual Machines no Windows ARM)? Definitely that's why I didn't bought the M1 yet.

  • @pheriwinkle
    @pheriwinkle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm in the process of replacing my old Macs for new Intel Macs to get the latest models before Intel goes away. The main reason is virtualization. I have VMs for tons of old software I don't want to spend tons of money to replace: MS-DOS, Windows, Mac OS X 10.6, 10.8. This why my old machines are on Mojave too--for 32-bit support. (Plus the Music app is worse than iTunes.) I'm already torn about having to upgrade to Big Sur on the new hardware.
    So to give some examples: I still use Adobe CS4 on 10.8. For translation work: I have an unabridged foreign language dictionary on MS-DOS ($300), an unabridged bilingual dictionary on WinXP (not available elsewhere), a monolingual ($200) and a couple bilingual dictionaries ($300) that are 32-bit which I run on OS X 10.8. I still have Adobe Acrobat XI on 10.8. I pick earliest OS that the software supports to save on resources for when I'm running multiple VMs simultaneously. MS Office (for Visio, mainly) on Win 10. It would cost a couple grand just to replace all that software, so the preserving it with new but soon-to-be out-dated hardware is a strategy for me. There are few random things that require Rosetta on 10.6 for PPC translation. Plus, there are a whole host of other apps that run on Windows or Older OSes that occasionally save the day when you need to accomplish something.
    Since hardware can fail after it gets old anyway, I'd rather spend on hardware that can preserve the old software, rather than waiting a little while longer for Apple Silicon and taking the double-whammy of having to find completely new software solutions as well, which might exceed the cost of the new computer.

  • @italobjj
    @italobjj 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What the best used Mac air to buy ? Cheap one ?

  • @maximilian.jansen
    @maximilian.jansen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have my 16' for around 3 weeks now and it does have an i9 (16 GB and 4 GB 5500m) configuration. Although it was almost new (14 cycles) I purchased it for 1350€ which is a low price here in Germany (3200€ at Apple). I also use it for heavier tasks like Photoshop and Illustrator. Does it get hot? Yes, it does. But I could hear the fences only once during these 3 weeks and I am using it daily for a noticeable amount of time. Does someone have similar experiences?

  • @theemclane4037
    @theemclane4037 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Could you do a video on this? They go for under $550 now

  • @stanleychen3298
    @stanleychen3298 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My 2016 really underpowered dual core MacBook Pro is almost quiet all the time. I always thought my fan is broken

  • @Windsurfingaddict
    @Windsurfingaddict ปีที่แล้ว

    Forward April 2023 and these are selling for a steel on EBay, like £500-600 and I’m still on the fence, this or M1 which is still holding its value

  • @jeromescott2113
    @jeromescott2113 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Now that the new 16” with M1 Pro and M1 Max is out this discussion may have changed for many. But unfortunately Apple silicon will take years to be fully supported by a majority of apps. The other issue is when you run Windows through Parallels, there are limitations because it’s using the ARM version of Windows. I purchased a 16” M1 Pro a few weeks ago, but I also purchased a 2019 i9 refurbished from Apple recently. The model I got retailed for $3,599 and I paid $2,438. My plan is to keep it around during the maturation of Apple silicon and hopefully there will be better support for the ARM version of Windows in the future. For now, I still need Boot Camp for applications like SSMS because it’s not supported by the ARM version of Windows. In a few years I’ll trade both devices and get a maxed out M3 Pro 16”. Definitely going to wait for refurbished for my next Mac purchase!

    • @richarddcrossley
      @richarddcrossley 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for this. I spent ages trying to get SQL to install on Windows 10 ARM on M1 MacBook Pro. Unfortunately the specific version of W10 build you need to install to get it to work I can’t get anywhere. I had ordered a M1 Max 16 but after this issue cancelled. Picked up a brand new i9 2.4GHz (rest base spec) from IT Zoo for £1350 with 11 months of apple care included, a full spec 24 inch iMac with pro apps for family and said base M1 MacBook Pro for £900. M1 is awesome but loads of us are basically having to buy 2/3 computers to cover the next few years if we want M1 and x86 stuff 😂

    • @jackspring7709
      @jackspring7709 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I bought the macbook Pro 16" intel last summer and it's still the best laptop I've ever bought. For me the M1 would have been too "new" to consider waiting for in the sense that there may be compatibility issues and glitches here and there that would still need to be resolved: I can see from your comment that I was probably right about that. I don't have any problems with overheating or the sound of the fan on mine, either.

  • @savage-goose
    @savage-goose 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I got one of these for work brand new in December 21... clearly it had been on a shelf for a minute, but was NIB. 9750h, Radeon 5300, 2TB SSD. It's pretty good. I put Windows 10 on it, and about a month ago upgraded to Windows 11, and I really like the device... yeah it's big and heavy but 95% of the time it sits with the lid closed driving two 4K displays, which is does effortlessly.
    Would I buy one of these with my own money? Oh hell no, and basically no Mac for that matter, but as a device it's pretty good, even in mid 2022.

    • @brokenhero6828
      @brokenhero6828 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ahhh you’re so lucky wish I could get one for free lmao

  • @saardean4481
    @saardean4481 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there any generation of the 16inch intel mbp that had more technical issues?

  • @15458434
    @15458434 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Exactly the reason why I'm still on a 15" MacBook Pro (2016)

  • @priyonjoni
    @priyonjoni 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love my 16”. It’s a powerhouse for editing. Until the 16” M1 with a dedicated GPU is released, this is still quite the machine.

  • @spunicunifait2697
    @spunicunifait2697 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is it still good in 2023, used/refurbished, for a price around $800. I think a Macbook Air M2 might be a better choice in the long run.

  • @halami2149
    @halami2149 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Might need new thermal paste? I know it’s not that old but the stock thermal paste is usually not that good

  • @Piketom1
    @Piketom1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I used to always buy the bigger MacBook pros for the better performance and larger batteries. When the 16" Macbook pro came out, the i9 version I bought was an obvious choice for me over the high end 13" version and I absolutely loved mine until I replaced with with an M1 MacBook earlier this year. The battery life was excellent and it was more than fast enough to be a desktop when I needed one. The M1 Pro I have is nearly as fast while being more portable and having much better battery life. That being said, if you need a high end Mac laptop with discrete graphics and the ability to run windows natively, then the 16" is still the only choice.

  • @ronlevin2339
    @ronlevin2339 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You forgot another big problem with them - flashgate problem. And there is a new problem discovered now by Luis, related to screen suddenly dying, and taking also 3 chips with it

  • @aryankhanna1940
    @aryankhanna1940 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey just want an opinion.... I'm planning to buy a base model m1 air for some video editing, some music production and other college stuff along with basics of blender....what do you say...also my budget is limited and maxed out to that price

  • @victorrobles353
    @victorrobles353 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    you're the only leaked products youtuber that i trust and also like :D

  • @ezequielgavilan420
    @ezequielgavilan420 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    In my case intel now is my option, cause I’m a Adobe Premiere user, and the m1 is good but not completely reliable to use as my main computer. I hope the m1x o m2 gives us better performance, mainly in graphics.
    Love your content Luke!

  • @keithwhisman
    @keithwhisman 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Doubload and purchase a license for Mac's Fan Control and set up a maximum temp of around 150"F so it never gets real hot. I love mine, I have this same MBP

  • @sidneypan2051
    @sidneypan2051 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got an M1 MBA with 16GB of rams as soon as they started taking orders, and yet I still decided to get an Apple refurbished 16” with the 5600m last month

  • @556johny556
    @556johny556 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    8:09 seeing BeamNG was unexpected, but very welcome.

  • @chrispawl
    @chrispawl ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have the same model but with 64GB of ram and my fan rarely turns on and the computer rarely gets hot so I don't agree that it is "just" the model.

    • @magicthug9595
      @magicthug9595 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      2019 i9 64gb ram and 1tb SSD bro here, I second this

  • @Schrsmnymkr
    @Schrsmnymkr 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Still holding on to mine until they come with the refresh.

  • @stephenpapavassiliou1488
    @stephenpapavassiliou1488 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Has anyone experienced an issue with laggy text with Automatic Graphics switching turned on?

  • @soundfonts4374
    @soundfonts4374 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    :/ just hoping the new macbook pro get released soon, want the 16 inch but want to see if the m1x will be worth i

  • @i.n.1103
    @i.n.1103 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    be honest, 2015 pro is still good in 2021, 16 inch is perfect))

    • @morganjones2944
      @morganjones2944 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      True. I like the 2015.

    • @Garrettdx1988
      @Garrettdx1988 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      With that said, I'm pretty disappointed Apple stopped updating the '13 and '14 models this year. Those are still plenty capable.

    • @matejaem
      @matejaem 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Garrettdx1988 They cut off so many perfectly capable Macs this year. Even the 12” MacBook from 2015 shoud’ve got Monterey in my opinion

    • @aaravkarasi8706
      @aaravkarasi8706 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Garrettdx1988 sadly those have nvidia graphics which are now unsupported

    • @mushroomlegion
      @mushroomlegion 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      True! Bought a used 2015 MBP in 2021 and still runs like butter :)

  • @LarryGanz
    @LarryGanz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bought my 32GB/2TB 2.4Ghz i9 8-core 16" in March 2020, right before lockdowns, as I'd had my 2014 15" in the shop 3x over the previous 3 months (bad battery, then the E key and cmd-v stopped working, then bad battery again, and another bad one). I foresaw a shortage, and got the last one in town with more than 16GB/1TB without waiting 6 weeks. It's been great, and fast enough that I can use Parallels for a Windows 10 VM instead of boot camp, letting me still access my Mac apps without rebooting out of Windows. Yeah, the fans run a lot, but I can turn off turbo boost and the fans stop and it's cooler, at the expense of performance, which is okay when I need longer battery while mobile. With turbo boost on and plugged in now I'm at 57 degrees while having 50 Safari tabs open (not very common to not hear fans tho).

  • @cS-jr8du
    @cS-jr8du 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just bought one with the i9 and 32gb of ram. I usually upgrade my computer every two years, so eventually I’ll try the new m1x

    • @rahulghoshm7046
      @rahulghoshm7046 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      do u have any audio pop issues??

  • @jhugo1986
    @jhugo1986 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There’s quite a few in my area selling from 900-1200$. Honestly I’ll probably still pick one up. Don’t give a damn about some fan noise lol. I always have music playing in the background when working.