its a real job spinning plates, the higher value you are the easier it becomes, girls almost get off on sharing and competing for you in a twisted way but when feelings develop its really tricky and draining. thanks always for your wisdom and missing yall at 21 convention , headed to beach with side piece but will be excited to watch the upload
Spinning plates only works when the man is substantially higher SMV than the woman. Higher SMV women won't compete with another woman unless he's a famous billionaire. The average guy is not going to have a harem of hot women fighting over him.
@@heatherfeather9951 ive lately been using SA to my advantage and for the first time have been open to girls about seeing multiples at a time, but ya it really comes down to if your very wealthy, very attractive and very famous otherwise the quality wont match up nowadays
That works for you because you have patience I think it's a time-wasting strategy and it's very energy-sucking. This might work one out of 50 times just not my style. I rather delete those numbers and not waste my life. I used to follow up but it's never worked so I started deleting and it feels much better
Same here, way too much energy for one chick. She definitely texted, just for the attention. But it ultimately worked out for him this time. I deal with girls, that are down from the beginning. But everyone is different i guess.
@@MandeepSingh-ki6ve Except 99% girls play games and you are gonna struck with 1% and that might not work at the end. So, we have to learn game and combat with our own game
That’s why text game is the most boring form of game. Only chicks that aren’t flaky are the average to below average ones for the hot ones you gotta put way too much time into texting for something that in most cases will go nowhere. Honestly just go out to clubs and get good until you can pull a girl almost every night. That’s the most time efficient since most girls are already logistically available to you in that setting, it’s way more fun and you’ll learn way more lessons that way. Also you can always go for the ones you are actually attracted to and avoid cat fishing or girls that don’t look as good as their pics…
Even below average girls can be flaky. From what I've seen is that girls just like having text buddies. Most girls are boring af anyway. If not for the thing between their legs I have no interest in them or their lives at all
Wow. I'm always amazed how you can read through these girls and just be able to taking the initiative and going back and fourth and sealing the deal. You are wayyyyyyyy better @ getting chicks than Mystery. James Bond would be envious of you my guy lol
Hey guys i matched with a girl in tinder her profile is super legit, looks 100% real. She said as a opener you want to go see a movie, i was like yeah looking at the movie theater movie list, then she answered just come to my place and we'll watch it there. Sounds fire. Just I'm paranoid anything fishy or weird here ? Don't want to get killed lol
Thanks for the video. Two questions: 1) Do you actually use the balcony that you always mention when you go for the "bottle of wine on romantic balcony" close? 2) She asked "what are you up to?" and you "just relaxing with this guy" and a pic of your husky. For guys who don't have a dog, we don' t have that red herring of throwing a dog pic in when we are just bumming around our place and "chillin". What do you recommend?
@@PlayingWithFireChannel Genuine question, Alex, how do you not feel pathetic when going to such lenghts to have a girl agreeing to meet/sleep with you? I've tried that, with some success I must admit, but God damn do I feel powerless having to spin plates like a clown to deserve the "joy of her company/pussy". How do you rationalize and feel about this, how does it not hurt your ego? I'd love for you to make an in depth video specifically about this subject, cuz I believe this a huge issue for many guys like myself, and it's kinda mandatory to "spin plates" with any hot chick. The ammount of hot chicks I don't fuck cuz they play hard to get out of the blue, even after even saying they would like me to fuck them, is off the charts! Love your work dude.
@@vladvostok4785 Definitely don't feel pathetic for going after what I want. Do you feel pathetic for being rejected for job interviews and only getting 1 out of 10 jobs? How is this any different than that. If your ego gets hurt by something so silly, you need to reassess your values. Thank you for your kind words dude
@@PlayingWithFireChannel I don't think I have a huge/weak ego, but it's hard not to get it a lil bit hurt when this happen all the time. I don't mind one bit when the girl shuts me down from the get go, I welcome it in fact. It annoys me when the convo went well, girl shows interest and is dtf, but when it's time to close the deal I get ghosted, feels like I'm fucking up somehow and I can't figure that out. I've seen all your stuff, and the only thing I can point out is lack of rapport? Frustrating. Btw, do you know the guy from killyourinnerloser? You both are my favorite sources and have radically different approaches. Tried both, but I think the "sweetspot" is somewhere in the middle and I'm trying to come up with something. Would love if you interview him!
@@vladvostok4785 You may reframe your frustration as you not having a big ego but the fact that you have not changed your approach after lack of consistent results tells me otherwise. That, including your initial comment of feeling pathetic. Refer back to Newton's definition. You can't be doing the same thing expecting a different result Is that guy, good looking loser? I may have reached out a while ago but he unfortunately doesn't have a great YT following
its just so much better talking to girls that more often want your attention and go out the way to continue to talk to you. i pretty much have 0 tolerance for anyone that isnt interested. if someonr is interested seriously they would continue talking and make it easy for you. forget that prying teeth out to hope for something. lol
fine dude. when you know you can get laid any time with others, then what's the point of continuing with someone that doesnt seem much interested? like there is more than just dating apps. it's a night and day difference meeting someone in person over meeting someone from the internet. higher chance of getting laid from someone you just met in person over online. well especially the online females that show little to no interest. at least in person you can casually talk to some random cute girl and she may not like you inititially, but she can eventually show more interest and possibly sexually with how your conversation is going, and of course that you look some-what attractive to her. right away they know youre not a creep usually cause youre out in public socializing, which is a huge plus to them.
@@evolicious-x Damn bro. no need to get all defensive. In the end, if you're happy with your results and have so much time that you can consistently get laid from cold approach, do you. Don't state your opinions as facts. This has worked for me and thousands of my clients. How are you a special snowflake?
i respect the hustle, for me its too draining trying to keep long conversation threads going, and it seems to add tension when we meet, ive found the simpler and quicker the better, but the problem with that is girls think your needy desperate or a fuckboy if you move to quick, so finding that balance
feel that momentum is pretty key to bagging it, Alex still kept momentum despite the long convo but i would rather have faster momentum with a girl in 1-2 days of texting
i wanted to share a nugget of wisdom: from experience it’s easy to assume the girl is in a “bitchy” state, when she responds with short phrases when many times she’s just feeling shy. yes, girls can still feel shy over text.
Oh please. 2021 and girls are "shy" over fuck apps like tinder? I have theories of why they go flakey, but being shy is definitely not one of them. This is just lying to ourselves.
I get the point of this video and I think the principles are valuable but let's be honest this girl seems very toxic ... based on how she says she went out just to get attention from guys and reject them and how she triple texts you when you don't respond like she is seeking validation so hard ... you just know she likes to create drama. Definitely not girlfriend material
But she makes a great subject to learn from, about how to react and handle such a difficult girl. A positive, emotionally healthy woman would be straightforward and not be nearly as difficult
Alex on the scale of 1 to 10, how hot was she? From her texts there are lots of red flags, but I have to admire your persistence style. Always better to be non emotional when it comes to women. I have learned from you watching some vids, I improved my texting by cutting out emojis thanks for that))
Yo Alex, loved the video as usual, great stuff!! But man no offense by any means, why don't you get your nose bridge fixed? Like you're a handsome man, so I'm curious why you ain't getting it fixed.
I actually already had it fixed. It was a disaster and left me with a year of breathing problems. So at this point I’m not trying to fuck with fate twice
@@PlayingWithFireChannel Sorry to hear that man. Welp, I guess some things aren't meant to be. Btw related to this video, I had to woo this one girl for 3 months until I finally got in her pants. Like man, literally used the steps you mentioned in your other videos about being "persistence but not needy" and it finally worked! You're the real OG man 💯
never ask a woman for anything, tell her what you want her to do. if she's compliant she yours. i don't ask for ph# or dates, i tell them to give it to me and i'll call them, i tell them where were going and when. i don't wait for the moment to kiss, like some bitch. i hug and kiss her on the lips when we first meet and constantly after that.
If I sense a plate spinner I ghost and block immediately. I also change my phone number every three months. If you could consistently contact me in three months, then you'll never be able to contact me again.
@@PlayingWithFireChannel I’m someone who gets oneitus and I don’t want to get hurt. I need a guy who is as much into me as I am into him and a plate spinner just doesn’t excite me. I think that a lot of women don’t want to feel like another option. A guy doesn’t have to tell me that he wants to be with me for the rest of our lives on the first date but he also doesn’t have to be so lukewarm about me like he’s buying paper towels.
@@heatherfeather9951 That's completely understandable. No one likes to be a backup. But, have you ever thought that maybe everyone has to start that way and then make their way to the top? Especially with men/women who are of quality and desired? You wouldn't want someone who is not wanted by anyone at all. right?
@@PlayingWithFireChannel True, some unattractive men have no women who are interested in them but if the guy actually knows how much I'm interested in him and he's going out of his way to still be a player then I'll just move on. It happened to me very recently and this guy was 13 years older than me and definitely not a Chad or rich. Even average men can (try) to spin plates but it usually will backfire on them and all of their plates simultaneously leave them at once. I understand that men need to not keep all of their eggs in one basket but if the goal is quality over quantity then spinning plates (for a man who isn't under 45, isn't rich or famous) isn't always advantageous.
“Nah i hate sex,” that’s such a sick line lol the reverse psychology is real
God damn this is impressive. I would of given up a long time ago lol
Patience and not getting emotional is required. Also genuinely being busy works
Tbh i dont think it was worth it
@@1dapperhustlerlmao
@@1dapperhustlerit is if you have other women too
its a real job spinning plates, the higher value you are the easier it becomes, girls almost get off on sharing and competing for you in a twisted way but when feelings develop its really tricky and draining. thanks always for your wisdom and missing yall at 21 convention , headed to beach with side piece but will be excited to watch the upload
Spinning plates only works when the man is substantially higher SMV than the woman. Higher SMV women won't compete with another woman unless he's a famous billionaire. The average guy is not going to have a harem of hot women fighting over him.
@@heatherfeather9951 ive lately been using SA to my advantage and for the first time have been open to girls about seeing multiples at a time, but ya it really comes down to if your very wealthy, very attractive and very famous otherwise the quality wont match up nowadays
That works for you because you have patience I think it's a time-wasting strategy and it's very energy-sucking. This might work one out of 50 times just not my style. I rather delete those numbers and not waste my life. I used to follow up but it's never worked so I started deleting and it feels much better
I agree. I focus on girls that aren't playing games and are actually interested. So much easier tbh.
Same here, way too much energy for one chick. She definitely texted, just for the attention. But it ultimately worked out for him this time. I deal with girls, that are down from the beginning. But everyone is different i guess.
@@MandeepSingh-ki6ve Except 99% girls play games and you are gonna struck with 1% and that might not work at the end. So, we have to learn game and combat with our own game
Nah you are making excuses, Alex was doing other things while texting her.
Jesus man the level of patience you have is unreal, almost sickening!
He's doing other shit in the meantime
He was texting and fucking other girls the whole time though. The trick is to not get emotional and keep number for future
Alex, I've been watching your vidz for some months now. You have the best text game. simple fact! thank you, for sharing & teaching!
4:25 in 5 texts, Alex had made 4 points(Frame control, flipping her frame, intrigue and get her to chase, and qualify her)
I get the persistence but at some point it's ridiculous having to work so hard to meet up. Chicks are so flakey
That’s why text game is the most boring form of game. Only chicks that aren’t flaky are the average to below average ones for the hot ones you gotta put way too much time into texting for something that in most cases will go nowhere. Honestly just go out to clubs and get good until you can pull a girl almost every night. That’s the most time efficient since most girls are already logistically available to you in that setting, it’s way more fun and you’ll learn way more lessons that way. Also you can always go for the ones you are actually attracted to and avoid cat fishing or girls that don’t look as good as their pics…
@@smarch3912 yo bro could u help me out ?
Even below average girls can be flaky. From what I've seen is that girls just like having text buddies. Most girls are boring af anyway. If not for the thing between their legs I have no interest in them or their lives at all
@@kenny5577 join the mastermind mind group
To not chase shows ALL you want is a fuck.
If you carry on ypu at least want a fling instead of easy onenighter.
Come onnn
Honestly props! We all been there. Long game is tough esspiaclly with girls like this.
I have to be so persistent with most women, they're always so busy with their BS "careers" etc lol, it usually works out in the end tho
pacing has completely changed my text game and I owe it all to playing with fire 🔥
All that work for 1 date. Jesus
If this is the only girl youre talking to, sure. If you have other women, who cares
This took awhile but this got crazy real fast.
I’ve never cared this much about stayin in touch with a shorty
Nah after that ”dressed up to reject men” part you can tell she’s insecure. I would of got her gone by then
Shit blew my mind
you should get some led channel raceways. Makes the lights look way better and nicely diffused
Spinning Plate.... hhmmm what four time author that you absolutely dislike uses this phrase all the time......
Hahaha the Jesus line is amazing. Stealing that one. Really good frame flipping here.
5:15 most girls mindsets when they go out, lol
Wow. I'm always amazed how you can read through these girls and just be able to taking the initiative and going back and fourth and sealing the deal. You are wayyyyyyyy better @ getting chicks than Mystery. James Bond would be envious of you my guy lol
Well done. Best video youve made." i hate sex" was the perfect move
this is one of your better videos
Hey guys i matched with a girl in tinder her profile is super legit, looks 100% real. She said as a opener you want to go see a movie, i was like yeah looking at the movie theater movie list, then she answered just come to my place and we'll watch it there. Sounds fire. Just I'm paranoid anything fishy or weird here ? Don't want to get killed lol
2 new kidneys hitting the market soon
facetime her
Get her ig
Worth it
Get her to come over
I guess persistance pays...Im usually turned off at the first sign of flakiness
Same I just take it as complete rejection.
Lol I get turned off by the first sign of plate spinning/low effort.
Thanks for the video. Two questions: 1) Do you actually use the balcony that you always mention when you go for the "bottle of wine on romantic balcony" close? 2) She asked "what are you up to?" and you "just relaxing with this guy" and a pic of your husky. For guys who don't have a dog, we don' t have that red herring of throwing a dog pic in when we are just bumming around our place and "chillin". What do you recommend?
Love that coconut or choc
Just choose.
Awesome investment. After real persistence
Great video but the audio is messed up man, high pitched ringing sound on my end
Dude, this was a lot of work. Nstead of playing that much games, I would rather go for someone that isn't too hard.
Why not both....Isn't that what spinning plates mean?
@@PlayingWithFireChannel Genuine question, Alex, how do you not feel pathetic when going to such lenghts to have a girl agreeing to meet/sleep with you? I've tried that, with some success I must admit, but God damn do I feel powerless having to spin plates like a clown to deserve the "joy of her company/pussy". How do you rationalize and feel about this, how does it not hurt your ego? I'd love for you to make an in depth video specifically about this subject, cuz I believe this a huge issue for many guys like myself, and it's kinda mandatory to "spin plates" with any hot chick. The ammount of hot chicks I don't fuck cuz they play hard to get out of the blue, even after even saying they would like me to fuck them, is off the charts!
Love your work dude.
@@vladvostok4785 Definitely don't feel pathetic for going after what I want. Do you feel pathetic for being rejected for job interviews and only getting 1 out of 10 jobs? How is this any different than that. If your ego gets hurt by something so silly, you need to reassess your values. Thank you for your kind words dude
@@PlayingWithFireChannel I don't think I have a huge/weak ego, but it's hard not to get it a lil bit hurt when this happen all the time. I don't mind one bit when the girl shuts me down from the get go, I welcome it in fact. It annoys me when the convo went well, girl shows interest and is dtf, but when it's time to close the deal I get ghosted, feels like I'm fucking up somehow and I can't figure that out.
I've seen all your stuff, and the only thing I can point out is lack of rapport? Frustrating.
Btw, do you know the guy from killyourinnerloser? You both are my favorite sources and have radically different approaches. Tried both, but I think the "sweetspot" is somewhere in the middle and I'm trying to come up with something. Would love if you interview him!
@@vladvostok4785 You may reframe your frustration as you not having a big ego but the fact that you have not changed your approach after lack of consistent results tells me otherwise. That, including your initial comment of feeling pathetic.
Refer back to Newton's definition. You can't be doing the same thing expecting a different result
Is that guy, good looking loser? I may have reached out a while ago but he unfortunately doesn't have a great YT following
Please bring back your instagram handle live cause I'm missing it.
I’m actually wondering why it got taken down ?
That's interesting, i never block girls too but it's hard to make girls do the pursuing through text
What would you have done if you didn’t run into her again? That seemed like a big turning point
i think he had other girls to worry about ;)
This man runs a loooonnnnggg game, most guys would have just given it in..
Was expecting this vid to be about how to text for spinning a plate long term. That is, after the first 1-2 lays.
Already have a video on that. Besides, there's no more "textgame" to do once you bang a chick and she becomes a part of your rotation
@@PlayingWithFireChannel So then what do you do after you have sex? How should you text a girl in your rotation?
thanks bro, I love this content, there's some solid advices
its just so much better talking to girls that more often want your attention and go out the way to continue to talk to you. i pretty much have 0 tolerance for anyone that isnt interested. if someonr is interested seriously they would continue talking and make it easy for you. forget that prying teeth out to hope for something. lol
And how has that been working out for you. Barring the self delusion of your results of course
fine dude. when you know you can get laid any time with others, then what's the point of continuing with someone that doesnt seem much interested? like there is more than just dating apps. it's a night and day difference meeting someone in person over meeting someone from the internet. higher chance of getting laid from someone you just met in person over online. well especially the online females that show little to no interest. at least in person you can casually talk to some random cute girl and she may not like you inititially, but she can eventually show more interest and possibly sexually with how your conversation is going, and of course that you look some-what attractive to her. right away they know youre not a creep usually cause youre out in public socializing, which is a huge plus to them.
@@evolicious-x Damn bro. no need to get all defensive. In the end, if you're happy with your results and have so much time that you can consistently get laid from cold approach, do you. Don't state your opinions as facts. This has worked for me and thousands of my clients. How are you a special snowflake?
i think youre the only one getting hurt. i can state my opinions if i want. delete my comments if it hurts your ego. 😂
i see you cant have a discussion without name calling. how old are you?
i respect the hustle, for me its too draining trying to keep long conversation threads going, and it seems to add tension when we meet, ive found the simpler and quicker the better, but the problem with that is girls think your needy desperate or a fuckboy if you move to quick, so finding that balance
Yup. It's all about the balance *read it in Thanos voice*
you gotta chill wit girls not expecting anything to happen, be your most attractive self and watch what happens 😉
feel that momentum is pretty key to bagging it, Alex still kept momentum despite the long convo but i would rather have faster momentum with a girl in 1-2 days of texting
@@ilse_22 The only way to have faster momentum is to no life text her.
This is exactly what I was looking for
I definitely appreciate your videos
i wanted to share a nugget of wisdom: from experience it’s easy to assume the girl is in a “bitchy” state, when she responds with short phrases when many times she’s just feeling shy. yes, girls can still feel shy over text.
Yup. It's a good way to look at it rather than taking it personally with "she is low interest"
Oh please. 2021 and girls are "shy" over fuck apps like tinder? I have theories of why they go flakey, but being shy is definitely not one of them. This is just lying to ourselves.
Another 🔥🔥 video
Holy clap your patience man wow
Bro watching this drained me how tf you spin a plate for a year you wild
Thing is have no expectations.
Man is this a new fucking camera, it looks lit
Nice explanation Alex
Thanks! Since watching and subscribing to Rich Cooper (Entrepreneurs in Cars) I've ben wondering how to spin plates without feeling all the guilt.
Unsub him lolz
I am from brazil
A year later...............................................ridiculous
Good shit but Mann, that’s a lot of work!!
I get the point of this video and I think the principles are valuable but let's be honest this girl seems very toxic ... based on how she says she went out just to get attention from guys and reject them and how she triple texts you when you don't respond like she is seeking validation so hard ... you just know she likes to create drama. Definitely not girlfriend material
I don't care if the girl is toxic if she jumps on my d eventually I'll forgive her
But she makes a great subject to learn from, about how to react and handle such a difficult girl. A positive, emotionally healthy woman would be straightforward and not be nearly as difficult
@@wanderingdoc5075 low integrity male
@@goatofdeparture Matter of opinion
Were not out here looking for girlfriend material when pursuing game😂 catch flights not feelings
The trick is to bring a dog to a bar
Right...that's the main takeaway from all this!
Alex on the scale of 1 to 10, how hot was she? From her texts there are lots of red flags, but I have to admire your persistence style. Always better to be non emotional when it comes to women. I have learned from you watching some vids, I improved my texting by cutting out emojis thanks for that))
I never truly give a shit about redflags until I see a potential of rotation or round 2 and more
What do you mean by spinning plates????
Nah bro cooked
Where have you been bro
Yo Alex, loved the video as usual, great stuff!! But man no offense by any means, why don't you get your nose bridge fixed? Like you're a handsome man, so I'm curious why you ain't getting it fixed.
I actually already had it fixed. It was a disaster and left me with a year of breathing problems. So at this point I’m not trying to fuck with fate twice
@@PlayingWithFireChannel Sorry to hear that man. Welp, I guess some things aren't meant to be. Btw related to this video, I had to woo this one girl for 3 months until I finally got in her pants. Like man, literally used the steps you mentioned in your other videos about being "persistence but not needy" and it finally worked! You're the real OG man 💯
That is one crusty disgusting plate.
Ok
Steamy
God this chick is just a P in the A. Solid effort tho.
Dude how’d you change your voice ? Lol
I just seen an old video of yours and your voice is way deeper now
but was it even worth it...
This was very frustrating to read lol
lmao..this is low value game
Please elaborate
@5:17 oh is this why Miami girls seem cold and unreceptive…it’s like a giant ego boost for them
never ask a woman for anything, tell her what you want her to do. if she's compliant she yours. i don't ask for ph# or dates, i tell them to give it to me and i'll call them, i tell them where were going and when. i don't wait for the moment to kiss, like some bitch. i hug and kiss her on the lips when we first meet and constantly after that.
You wasted hella time on this broad bruh.
Not really
Such a waste of the time
''Hug ur mom for me...''?? dafuq is this creepy game...
So weird.
Can you please react to 👉the lady of heaven trailer?❤️😌 ( It will be on cinemas very soon)
No
@@PlayingWithFireChannel You passed the shit test she'd fall for you
This is not high value, delete her.
Did u hit tho
I did
@@PlayingWithFireChannel yo bro I could rlly use ur help this video was perfect
Portuguese please !
I don't speak portuguese man
Learn english
If I sense a plate spinner I ghost and block immediately. I also change my phone number every three months. If you could consistently contact me in three months, then you'll never be able to contact me again.
Why is that? I'm curious
@@PlayingWithFireChannel I’m someone who gets oneitus and I don’t want to get hurt. I need a guy who is as much into me as I am into him and a plate spinner just doesn’t excite me. I think that a lot of women don’t want to feel like another option. A guy doesn’t have to tell me that he wants to be with me for the rest of our lives on the first date but he also doesn’t have to be so lukewarm about me like he’s buying paper towels.
@@heatherfeather9951 That's completely understandable. No one likes to be a backup. But, have you ever thought that maybe everyone has to start that way and then make their way to the top? Especially with men/women who are of quality and desired? You wouldn't want someone who is not wanted by anyone at all. right?
@@PlayingWithFireChannel True, some unattractive men have no women who are interested in them but if the guy actually knows how much I'm interested in him and he's going out of his way to still be a player then I'll just move on. It happened to me very recently and this guy was 13 years older than me and definitely not a Chad or rich. Even average men can (try) to spin plates but it usually will backfire on them and all of their plates simultaneously leave them at once. I understand that men need to not keep all of their eggs in one basket but if the goal is quality over quantity then spinning plates (for a man who isn't under 45, isn't rich or famous) isn't always advantageous.