This will release freedom, and effortless speed into your swing like you’ve never felt before. It’s SOOOOO refreshing to see someone address this. This was one of the best golf videos on TH-cam.
Freedom and effortless... very well said. I am so relieved. Hardly anyone talks about this. Almost all instruction tries to teach what only a very small few can actually achieve physiologically.
Finally something that makes sense! TH-cam is filled with videos demonizing forearm rotation because of "timing" while preaching bowed wrists and body rotation that's even harder to achieve... had me all messed up.
These two instructors are elite. It is great being able to get their knowledge online. Eric Cogorno is really good at bringing in other elite instructors to his videos. Seems like he truly wants more people to play better golf. Much appreciated!
this is the best video explaining why forearm rotation is necessary in the golf swing when there are 1000s of videos trying to tell us that its wrong. That last bit about the amount of chest rotation and the "flip"/weight of the club releasing occurring later is gold.
I subbed and I never sub but this video saved my game. I’m 66 and took 6 years off of golf to travel and live abroad came back too soon and hurt my back. Once I got going driver and woods were ok but my irons were DEAD. 7 iron 135 yards, pitch 90 yards bad contact tried everything else til I came upon this I can’t practice much because I save my back for 18 holes so I just did a lot of slow practice swings. Took about 10 holes to get the timing down, some pulls for sure. I was so focused on my arms I forgot to release my lower body. My irons weren’t just good but amazing, really crisp strikes and they went HIGH. The best part is started to become effortless to repeat and I really felt like I could keep my head still and behind the ball as my arms rotated through. Thanks so much!!
Love this drill, many years ago a pro taught me the baseball drill, having been out the game for a while now, I’m just getting used to it again. So a huge thank you to you both for some reminders.
This lesson has PROVEN to me that the left hand (for right-handed golfers) MUST perform a "motorcycle grip forward twist" on the down swing, in order to get the club face square at impact. After watching this video, I grabbed a 5 iron and put it horizontal in front of me, against the edge of a full-length cabinet. I then challenged myself to drive a "virtual nail" into the side of the cabinet with a square club face. So I start with the club face horizontally / parallel to the ground, with the face square against the cabinet, and I use the natural forearm rotation movement that is required to move the club back into a position where maximum power can be delivered to drive the "virtual nail" at impact. Doing that exercise, shows EXACTLY why forearm rotation is absolutely necessary. Thanks EC and KG for this video. I know for a fact that this drill is going to change my golf swing permanently, and for the better!
This is one of your best videos Eric. You’re dead on. Excellent explanation and demonstration. Love the baseball swing feel, as a former collegiate baseball player. Keeping the head behind the ball and letting the toe pass the heel feels so powerful. The shaft is in the heel of the club head to let this happen naturally. Otherwise, it would be in the center of the club head.
Topnotch content, Eric! This concept needs to be discussed more. The sad irony about popular golf instructions on YT is that there are too many videos on moves that are basically not doable for the majority of the audience. I tried the square-early-hush-the-hands-and-just-turn and it just didn't work for me. I like Mike Malaska's emphasis on focusing on the hands first, it's more instictive and natural; less demanding on my 40-year old joints. Thanks for this very insightful discussion, Eric & Kerrod!
Thanks Frank!! Heres another two you may enjoy on this: th-cam.com/video/gSU13aed03s/w-d-xo.html&pp=ygUZRXJpYyBDb2dvcm5vIGFybSByb3RhdGlvbg%3D%3D th-cam.com/video/wCs7m-fOI-M/w-d-xo.html&pp=ygUZRXJpYyBDb2dvcm5vIGFybSByb3RhdGlvbg%3D%3D
Probably the best explanation on the release I have seen. I have tried the passive release for years, because I thought forearm rotation was bad. Thanks for the video
When I try and start with my lower bod or hips generally leave it out to the right. When I start with a gentle rolling over of my arms much better consistency!
Definitely fundamental knowledge here. This is so critical really to understanding the golf swing. Breakdown of arm structure on backswing if you try and keep clubface square. The need for forearm rotation for us plebs who cannot rotate as effectively as highly conditioned athletes using a passive release. 10/10 on this one Eric.
The standing up is brilliant, thr over the left shoulder and turn to finish is fantastic and the baseball reference is outstanding. I use that as a “speed drill” with a device you can use/ blast without hitting a ball.
Amazing video, I’ve been struggling with the passive release for about a year and a half. To hear pros say it’s actually ok to rotate forearms has saved my game. Effortless distance and just a lot of fun!
Been struggling with this exactly since I’ve been struggling with rotating the body heading to the range now to try this! Thanks Eric for always providing clutch information
This was a real ah-ha moment for my game. I always thought this forearm rotation was "flipping" which everyone talks about is bad. I tried to keep the face always square and this caused the ball to consistently push right and I tried to compensate for this with stronger grip, more body rotation, which led to more issues. Being able to rotate the forearm makes the swing feel much more natural and effortless and is producing much better shots
Couldn't agree more with the others mentioning this is a missing key ingredient from youtube golf lessons. I've been on an absolute mission to rebuild my swing after 20 years of horribly wrong engrained habits. No stone unturned. Watched literally 100s of vids in the last 6 months. Totally can corroborate the over focus on wrists and body rotation. Both important but for me I couldn't get on plane until I stopped being afraid to rotate forearms. A one piece start back followed with the forearm rotation move has been magic. First time I've ever had a proper plane coming from the inside. Weak slappy over the top cuts and over powered pulls gone.
100% agreed! People get nervous about arm rotation and that it may add "timing"....and while that may or may not be true...as measured fact the best players have the most :)
I think when you talk about arm rotation you have to be careful and distinguish between internal rotation and external rotation of the shoulder rotator cuffs, and the supination and pronation of the radius bones in the forearms. These are not the same motions and don't have the same effect. Many players are using early internal rotation of the trail shoulder to square the club, which throws the right elbow and shoulder outward and out of plane. This difference is very much under appreciated in the mechanics of the golf swing.
If I’m trying to hit a “fairway finder” low fade, I’ll bow the left wrist, and turn hard. The hard turn slightly kicks the club out, for the slight out to in path. The knuckles down wrist position through impact, along with the rotation through, and the right side bend holds the release of the face off a little later. This results in a lower ball flight, and the face stays very stable through the hitting area. For the high draw, I’m letting those forearms rotate more naturally. I’ll not turn as aggressively, and this allows me to come from the inside more, and also allows the release to happen a little sooner, and more naturally. People need to experiment with forearm rotation, wrist positions, and body rotation. You’ll teach yourself a lot about your swing.
Excellent demo . Does the last point clear any misconceptions about flipping? . It’s never the hands unless you don’t rotate your torso? There are times when I’m so hit conscious that the hands are forcing the action. The table top drill seems to relieve that feeling. Good stuff
Eric, can you do a follow up to this talking a bit more about the timing? As discussed, people who have less body rotation, have more arm rotation. However, because there is more arm rotation, that rotation has to start earlier? You guys just started to touch on this at the close of this video.
Hey there! Here are a few videos that go into more detail that I think you'll enjoy checking out! Let us know if you have any questions after watching👊 th-cam.com/video/3pW6O_YHdPI/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/uA1T_P3Rtlw/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/wCs7m-fOI-M/w-d-xo.html
Best video on forearm rotation! Question: In my practice swing i have more hips close, chest close, more shallow right path like draw but with ball mind compensates with hips, shoulders open, left path for hitting straight shot and it goes straight. because if it replicates practice swing then i can miss the ball. Eric do you see such kind of pattern? And how would do you fix this?
Thank you, Noman! I'd really need to see your swing on video to give you the best advice and thoughts here, otherwise we'd simply be guessing too much. Send your swings to us at www.cogornogolf.com so we can do a full analysis and personal practice plan for you!👊 Hope to see you there!
I have faith in ya :) That should be easy to fix....if you continue struggling find a good coach to go see in person or send in swings to www.cogornogolf.com and we can fix that
I have a two way miss woods and irons all draw for typical shot shape, miss is hook and massive block. I’m plagued with a hip slide on the downswing and my instructor says I’m flippy but I release after impact… I’m lost haha
Hey there! Send us your swing videos at www.cogornogolf.com so we can analyze your swings and put together a custom practice plan for you. Would love to work together!
MAYBE......but MAYBE not....MAYBE they NEED it to get the ball on target :) What if it added MORE timing.....but they hit it farther and straighter with more timing? Some things for us all to ponder.
Hey there! Hard to say without seeing your swing on video, but you may just be simply overdoing the forearm rotation. Try dialing it back a little and see how it affects the ball flight. If you don't get it sorted, send your swings into www.CogornoGolf.com and we'll build a plan to fix it for ya!
Thanks youuuuuuu. Shit I started playing 3 years ago , I played hockey and baseball yet taught to bow and all this other dumb shit. I went back to baseball swing with interlocked grip I love golf again. Golf swing gave me bs 200 yard drives .
With all respect but this analysis is so wrong. It is all about how the UPPER arms and ELBOWS move in relation to eachother. The elbow has a fixed connection with your upper arm. So if your elbow rotates you know your upperarm is rotating. Since we start the golfswing with our elbows more pointing towards us and we end the backswing with the left elbow pointing AWAY from you then you know you rotated the left arm. In practice this means a clock wise motion of the left upper arm (internally) with ELEVATION. The elevation will see to it that the left elbow will rise in regard to the right elbow. Watch this video back and pay attention to this. So knowing this you can forget about the clubface because that will follow how you operate your upper arms and elbows. You can micro manage this with some rotation via the forearms and wrists if you want to.
Lol I know based on what YOU like....YOU wouldn't like this one :) All good man---as you already know I've coached thousands and thousands of people online and in person.....one thing I know FOR SURE is that not everyone can swing the same.....and not everyone can swing more like your optimal model you like where the face has much less rotation. SOME can....not everyone. So to be a great coach I believe you need to have options in your playbook.....not just always assume ONE play is the best. Again....thats just after like 15 years and tens of thousands of sets of feedback :) All the best to you
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This will release freedom, and effortless speed into your swing like you’ve never felt before. It’s SOOOOO refreshing to see someone address this. This was one of the best golf videos on TH-cam.
Thank you Jamie!
Just tried it. Wowwowowowow.
Freedom and effortless... very well said. I am so relieved. Hardly anyone talks about this. Almost all instruction tries to teach what only a very small few can actually achieve physiologically.
Finally something that makes sense! TH-cam is filled with videos demonizing forearm rotation because of "timing" while preaching bowed wrists and body rotation that's even harder to achieve... had me all messed up.
Totally. Forget all that mess and go with this.
Everyone rotates their forearms. I’m sure it’s a question of how much.
Hope this one serves you well!
These two instructors are elite. It is great being able to get their knowledge online. Eric Cogorno is really good at bringing in other elite instructors to his videos. Seems like he truly wants more people to play better golf. Much appreciated!
We appreciate your support!!
this is the best video explaining why forearm rotation is necessary in the golf swing when there are 1000s of videos trying to tell us that its wrong. That last bit about the amount of chest rotation and the "flip"/weight of the club releasing occurring later is gold.
Thanks for watching! Hope this one helps!
I subbed and I never sub but this video saved my game. I’m 66 and took 6 years off of golf to travel and live abroad came back too soon and hurt my back. Once I got going driver and woods were ok but my irons were DEAD. 7 iron 135 yards, pitch 90 yards bad contact tried everything else til I came upon this
I can’t practice much because I save my back for 18 holes so I just did a lot of slow practice swings. Took about 10 holes to get the timing down, some pulls for sure. I was so focused on my arms I forgot to release my lower body. My irons weren’t just good but amazing, really crisp strikes and they went HIGH. The best part is started to become effortless to repeat and I really felt like I could keep my head still and behind the ball as my arms rotated through.
Thanks so much!!
Love to hear this!! Appreciate you being here with us my friend!
You two guys are the epitome of modern golf instruction. Fantastic video! Watch both your channels!!
Thanks for your support, Mike!
Love this drill, many years ago a pro taught me the baseball drill, having been out the game for a while now, I’m just getting used to it again. So a huge thank you to you both for some reminders.
Our pleasure!
This lesson has PROVEN to me that the left hand (for right-handed golfers) MUST perform a "motorcycle grip forward twist" on the down swing, in order to get the club face square at impact. After watching this video, I grabbed a 5 iron and put it horizontal in front of me, against the edge of a full-length cabinet. I then challenged myself to drive a "virtual nail" into the side of the cabinet with a square club face. So I start with the club face horizontally / parallel to the ground, with the face square against the cabinet, and I use the natural forearm rotation movement that is required to move the club back into a position where maximum power can be delivered to drive the "virtual nail" at impact. Doing that exercise, shows EXACTLY why forearm rotation is absolutely necessary. Thanks EC and KG for this video. I know for a fact that this drill is going to change my golf swing permanently, and for the better!
Glad you enjoyed this one my friend! Hope it serves your game well!
This is one of your best videos Eric. You’re dead on. Excellent explanation and demonstration. Love the baseball swing feel, as a former collegiate baseball player. Keeping the head behind the ball and letting the toe pass the heel feels so powerful. The shaft is in the heel of the club head to let this happen naturally. Otherwise, it would be in the center of the club head.
👊👊
Thanks James!
Topnotch content, Eric! This concept needs to be discussed more. The sad irony about popular golf instructions on YT is that there are too many videos on moves that are basically not doable for the majority of the audience. I tried the square-early-hush-the-hands-and-just-turn and it just didn't work for me. I like Mike Malaska's emphasis on focusing on the hands first, it's more instictive and natural; less demanding on my 40-year old joints. Thanks for this very insightful discussion, Eric & Kerrod!
👊Thanks Clark! Our pleasure!
Loving these forearm rotation lessons! 🫡
Thanks Frank!!
Heres another two you may enjoy on this:
th-cam.com/video/gSU13aed03s/w-d-xo.html&pp=ygUZRXJpYyBDb2dvcm5vIGFybSByb3RhdGlvbg%3D%3D
th-cam.com/video/wCs7m-fOI-M/w-d-xo.html&pp=ygUZRXJpYyBDb2dvcm5vIGFybSByb3RhdGlvbg%3D%3D
Probably the best explanation on the release I have seen. I have tried the passive release for years, because I thought forearm rotation was bad. Thanks for the video
Our pleasure, Isaac! Thanks for watching!
When I try and start with my lower bod or hips generally leave it out to the right. When I start with a gentle rolling over of my arms much better consistency!
Nice!!
Definitely fundamental knowledge here. This is so critical really to understanding the golf swing. Breakdown of arm structure on backswing if you try and keep clubface square. The need for forearm rotation for us plebs who cannot rotate as effectively as highly conditioned athletes using a passive release. 10/10 on this one Eric.
👊Thank you!
The standing up is brilliant, thr over the left shoulder and turn to finish is fantastic and the baseball reference is outstanding. I use that as a “speed drill” with a device you can use/ blast without hitting a ball.
👊
Thanks! Hope this one serves you well!
Amazing video, I’ve been struggling with the passive release for about a year and a half. To hear pros say it’s actually ok to rotate forearms has saved my game. Effortless distance and just a lot of fun!
Love this Kevin! Glad you enjoyed this one👊
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Been struggling with this exactly since I’ve been struggling with rotating the body heading to the range now to try this! Thanks Eric for always providing clutch information
Our pleasure! Hope it helps George!
This was a real ah-ha moment for my game. I always thought this forearm rotation was "flipping" which everyone talks about is bad. I tried to keep the face always square and this caused the ball to consistently push right and I tried to compensate for this with stronger grip, more body rotation, which led to more issues. Being able to rotate the forearm makes the swing feel much more natural and effortless and is producing much better shots
Glad this one helped, Dana!!
Love the rotation drill. Feels powerful and adds speed. Thanks
Hope it serves you well, Steve!
This is such an important video on the golf swing. wow
Hope it serves you well my friend!
Couldn't agree more with the others mentioning this is a missing key ingredient from youtube golf lessons. I've been on an absolute mission to rebuild my swing after 20 years of horribly wrong engrained habits. No stone unturned. Watched literally 100s of vids in the last 6 months. Totally can corroborate the over focus on wrists and body rotation. Both important but for me I couldn't get on plane until I stopped being afraid to rotate forearms. A one piece start back followed with the forearm rotation move has been magic. First time I've ever had a proper plane coming from the inside. Weak slappy over the top cuts and over powered pulls gone.
100% agreed!
People get nervous about arm rotation and that it may add "timing"....and while that may or may not be true...as measured fact the best players have the most :)
This is an excellent video.
Thank you, Robert!
Fabulous video session guys ... I know the current thing is video lessons but I sure wish you guys were doing in person lessons for us old guys.
This was amazing
Thank you!
Thank you for this Eric!
Our pleasure, Ryan!
This was invaluable
Hope it serves you well!
Instantly fixed my slice and added about 20 yards to my drive. Let the club do the work!
Love to hear that!
Great lesson!
Thanks James!
I think when you talk about arm rotation you have to be careful and distinguish between internal rotation and external rotation of the shoulder rotator cuffs, and the supination and pronation of the radius bones in the forearms. These are not the same motions and don't have the same effect. Many players are using early internal rotation of the trail shoulder to square the club, which throws the right elbow and shoulder outward and out of plane. This difference is very much under appreciated in the mechanics of the golf swing.
Good points!
Very interesting! Do you have a link to further information?
Eric at 10:30 is gold. Feels like speaking to me
Hope it serves you well, Matt!
If I’m trying to hit a “fairway finder” low fade, I’ll bow the left wrist, and turn hard. The hard turn slightly kicks the club out, for the slight out to in path. The knuckles down wrist position through impact, along with the rotation through, and the right side bend holds the release of the face off a little later. This results in a lower ball flight, and the face stays very stable through the hitting area. For the high draw, I’m letting those forearms rotate more naturally. I’ll not turn as aggressively, and this allows me to come from the inside more, and also allows the release to happen a little sooner, and more naturally. People need to experiment with forearm rotation, wrist positions, and body rotation. You’ll teach yourself a lot about your swing.
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Good stuff fellas
Thanks Richard!
“You’re timing isn’t good to start with “ 😂 The malaska school of hard truths
:)
Excellent demo . Does the last point clear any misconceptions about flipping? . It’s never the hands unless you don’t rotate your torso? There are times when I’m so hit conscious that the hands are forcing the action. The table top drill seems to relieve that feeling. Good stuff
Thanks Aris! Thats more or less correct, yes!
Eric, can you do a follow up to this talking a bit more about the timing? As discussed, people who have less body rotation, have more arm rotation. However, because there is more arm rotation, that rotation has to start earlier? You guys just started to touch on this at the close of this video.
Hey there!
Here are a few videos that go into more detail that I think you'll enjoy checking out! Let us know if you have any questions after watching👊
th-cam.com/video/3pW6O_YHdPI/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/uA1T_P3Rtlw/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/wCs7m-fOI-M/w-d-xo.html
@@CogornoGolf awesome. Ty!
Best video on forearm rotation!
Question: In my practice swing i have more hips close, chest close, more shallow right path like draw but with ball mind compensates with hips, shoulders open, left path for hitting straight shot and it goes straight. because if it replicates practice swing then i can miss the ball.
Eric do you see such kind of pattern? And how would do you fix this?
Thank you, Noman!
I'd really need to see your swing on video to give you the best advice and thoughts here, otherwise we'd simply be guessing too much. Send your swings to us at www.cogornogolf.com so we can do a full analysis and personal practice plan for you!👊
Hope to see you there!
Hi Eric great video, is it ok to cross your forearms when releasing with more rotation.. no one seems to cross the forearms thanks Jason
Yes.....but PAST the ball.....and WITH good body rotation and tilt
Very great!!!!!
Thank you, Erich!
This is what I'm working on....short backswing and focusing on trail forearm rotation. I'm so damn tired of hitting slices and pushes.
I have faith in ya :) That should be easy to fix....if you continue struggling find a good coach to go see in person or send in swings to www.cogornogolf.com and we can fix that
I have a two way miss woods and irons all draw for typical shot shape, miss is hook and massive block. I’m plagued with a hip slide on the downswing and my instructor says I’m flippy but I release after impact… I’m lost haha
Hey there!
Send us your swing videos at www.cogornogolf.com so we can analyze your swings and put together a custom practice plan for you. Would love to work together!
This is a great video
Thanks John!!
Do you do this with all clubs?
Hey Chad! Yep
Eric, would it be wrong to feel the rotation is starting in shoulder?
Yeah its a blend of both really
This is good info, one word of caution is forearm rotation leads to potential timing issues, especially for higher handicappers
MAYBE......but MAYBE not....MAYBE they NEED it to get the ball on target :)
What if it added MORE timing.....but they hit it farther and straighter with more timing?
Some things for us all to ponder.
@@CogornoGolf maybe?🤔
@@mtb7018with no forearm rotation you’re gonna block it right and it will go nowhere.
Thank you . 😁
Our pleasure, Brian!
Beauty!!
Thanks Chad!
@@CogornoGolf welcome!
if i rotate lke you i hook the ball. how to stop that?
Hey there!
Hard to say without seeing your swing on video, but you may just be simply overdoing the forearm rotation. Try dialing it back a little and see how it affects the ball flight.
If you don't get it sorted, send your swings into www.CogornoGolf.com and we'll build a plan to fix it for ya!
I should have seen this ten years ago. Would have saved me tens of thousands of slices and even shanks.
Hope this one helps my friend!
Thanks youuuuuuu. Shit I started playing 3 years ago , I played hockey and baseball yet taught to bow and all this other dumb shit. I went back to baseball swing with interlocked grip I love golf again. Golf swing gave me bs 200 yard drives .
Love to hear this, Eli!
With all respect but this analysis is so wrong. It is all about how the UPPER arms and ELBOWS move in relation to eachother. The elbow has a fixed connection with your upper arm. So if your elbow rotates you know your upperarm is rotating. Since we start the golfswing with our elbows more pointing towards us and we end the backswing with the left elbow pointing AWAY from you then you know you rotated the left arm. In practice this means a clock wise motion of the left upper arm (internally) with ELEVATION. The elevation will see to it that the left elbow will rise in regard to the right elbow. Watch this video back and pay attention to this. So knowing this you can forget about the clubface because that will follow how you operate your upper arms and elbows. You can micro manage this with some rotation via the forearms and wrists if you want to.
Appreciate the feedback!
So wrong.
Lol I know based on what YOU like....YOU wouldn't like this one :)
All good man---as you already know I've coached thousands and thousands of people online and in person.....one thing I know FOR SURE is that not everyone can swing the same.....and not everyone can swing more like your optimal model you like where the face has much less rotation.
SOME can....not everyone.
So to be a great coach I believe you need to have options in your playbook.....not just always assume ONE play is the best.
Again....thats just after like 15 years and tens of thousands of sets of feedback :)
All the best to you
Why?
14:55 That's where it gets interesting...
The whole point is: Face rotation comes after body rotation, which drives the hitting of the ball...
Yep :) Watch to 'Match' the two pieces together accordingly !