@@soulassasin001 funny how you mentioned that because I no longer vote and I also work in a Ministry which means that I do have an idea of what the figures in certain areas look like while knowing the exact figures in other areas. However, you don't need to answer because I was going to dismantle your entire argument reguardless.
Ev's in Trinidad can work because of the small landmass and cheap electricity rates, the only caveat right now is the poor public charging infrastructure and the high cost of Ev's. If your bypass those two hurdles the only other caveat is in the future if more people get EVs and they put a greater strain on the grid causing the govt to increase taxation on their purchase and use to curb demand which is being seen in developed countries with rules onwhen you can charge and the removal of ev purchase incentives and free charging.
We have a lot of excess capacity with take or pay contracts for at least one powerstation. That is not going to be an issues in near future, and TTEC would be quite happy if personal vehicle electrification were to happen at an accelerated rate as it would improve their bottom line.
Actually, EVs does make sense in OECS states. The price of gasoline is astronomical compared to the energy rates. $6-7US per gallon of gasoline is wayy more expensive than our energy rate of 0.45US per KWH. But compared to Trinidad, it we are indeed a lot worse off. Transportation in OECS countries is JUST expensive 🥲🥲🥲
All day, every day. Driving an electric vehicle just means you have to plan your drive based on your capacity. If your vehicle says you can go from point to pos and back 3 times, only do it twice.
Owner of ZS EV and MG4 ZS EV real world range is about 300km. MG4 400km. I can't be mad at the paper spec based on WLTP. Oh - just like gas drive like an a$s and you will run down your 'fuel' faster. The MG4 is literally the quickest accelerating car on the island that you can buy for now as the Macan EV is on the way. I drive a ton for work from Sando to Chaguramas to Valencia and everywhere in between and my monthly cost is now in the $200-$300 range and that's with days where I drove for almost 6-7 hours. As far as the rest goes? I'm happy to not have oil, oil filter, air filter, plugs, and all the rest to see again. Gas station is for juice and corn curls. Dope vid.
I'm very glad that you did the cost comparison at the end so that Trinis can see how cheap their electricity costs are compared to the rest of the Caribbean. For what it's worth the cost of fuel at the pumps in many of the islands is a lot higher than in Trinidad as well, so relative to that cost, going electric might still have advantages.
Driving slow in traffic in with AC using power screens and computers running still uses your power which means you lose range. Saw that myself during solar eclipse all the tesla cars ran out of range crawling in 5-10mph traffic for 2hrs using power for lights and heat.
This is true, once the Ac comes on the range drops by 10km, if you are not driving in Eco, the range also drops by 10km. If you do both, that's 20km and continues to drop as the trip continues. I just don't use the Ac to make it to work and back with enough charge so I can't keep my charging time to 7. 5 hours max.
Not 100% accurate, drove an evoque ev and EQC, you could make it from south to grand Bazaar and back, when we reach south it was on 24%, the maths your using also isn't accurate because by now we know most ev claim and actual miles are different, you would have to compare it with fast charging, on the machine in Couva it came up to 150ttd to fast charge to go 100km, if your charging at home that's where the benefits comes in, but it's too slow for me, sometimes that car gotta charge for over a day to get 90%, and when all is said and done, t&tec would start to charge different, it's a hit and miss, then tires, you can't put any tires on an EV because the range would be affected, it's alot to take in, I should one day do ev,CNG,diesel,hybrid and gas run from POS to Point for people to see what's up, and a overall cost after 100k and calculate battery degradation
Hmmm... that low cost rate for electricity in T&T has more to do with our natural resources, ie natural gas, than just being a manufacturing country. A matter of fact, one of the major reason why we became a manufacturing country was because of the hydrocarbons we're blessed with.
You some how focused me to sub and I don't own a car, nor is even near to get one. CNG- nothing. You have now made this my soul mission, as of today as of this comment, only when I get to this if it still logically exists, I will personally gift you something. I will now log this message to a reminder in the future.
The government owing T&TEC, NGC owing T&TEC billions and vice versa, theres also a shortage of natural gas which is the main source of power generation in this country.....its only a matter of time before all the cards come down and electricity prices skyrocket enjoy the low price for now but its only a matter of time till the cars become an expensive bucket such as maintenance plus charging up
This is an accurate video but left out one very significant possibility. Solar panels. If you have access to solar power then your EV can run for free. Literally the sun can take you to work
EV sales are declining in the developed countries due to their high cost and maintenance and gross inconvenience, so those charging figures are irrelevant. They also chew up tyres because of their incredible weight and cause fires that are extremely difficult to put out. Countries like those in the Caribbean including Trinidad and Tobago are unlikely to be able to afford the infrastructure required for cars that won't sell because no one will be able to afford them anyway. What people save at the pump will be spent on expensive repairs, extremely poor resale value and ridiculously long charging times - minutes to fill your tank with petrol - HOURS to charge (including waiting times for public chargers).
...sounds just about right, for the Fox news, climate change-isn't-real, sponsored by oil and gas lobby. EV sales are declining *in the US* where they actually had a con-man for a president. For the rest of the sensible world, EVs power on from Norway to the UK and everywhere in-between.
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In theory, EVs would be great in the Caribbean. But in practice, people will find that a gas car is simpler and more cost effective.
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@@lislewaldron5669 You're 100% wrong. Go drive from NYC to LA with an EV and get back to me. LOL. IN WINTER.
Heh, heh, heh. Free from kingston to Montego Bay and back 380km with the Kia Niro with my solar at home.(driving no more then 90kph of course.. groan!)
Electric cars does do more harm than good because of the lithium-ion Co2 batteries could explode and it sort of bad for the environment. Very similar to gasoline. Hydrogen cars are safe for the environment, greener, H2O but it is very minimum. Better for Eco System. Check them out, do research.
You forgot to factor in the "Imbert Effect" as soon as he realizes regular folk surviving he's gonna tax the shit out of us.
Curious but how much tax do you pay?
@TRiniLukey as soon as you posted this I started smelling ballisier for some reason
YOU CAN'T SPELL IT'S NIMBUT
@@soulassasin001 funny how you mentioned that because I no longer vote and I also work in a Ministry which means that I do have an idea of what the figures in certain areas look like while knowing the exact figures in other areas. However, you don't need to answer because I was going to dismantle your entire argument reguardless.
@@TRiniLukey the amount of energy you put into coming up with that post could've been used for better things.
Epic, Fantastic video, Dude!! I needed this. 😎🇹🇹
Ev's in Trinidad can work because of the small landmass and cheap electricity rates, the only caveat right now is the poor public charging infrastructure and the high cost of Ev's. If your bypass those two hurdles the only other caveat is in the future if more people get EVs and they put a greater strain on the grid causing the govt to increase taxation on their purchase and use to curb demand which is being seen in developed countries with rules onwhen you can charge and the removal of ev purchase incentives and free charging.
We have a lot of excess capacity with take or pay contracts for at least one powerstation. That is not going to be an issues in near future, and TTEC would be quite happy if personal vehicle electrification were to happen at an accelerated rate as it would improve their bottom line.
Actually, EVs does make sense in OECS states. The price of gasoline is astronomical compared to the energy rates. $6-7US per gallon of gasoline is wayy more expensive than our energy rate of 0.45US per KWH. But compared to Trinidad, it we are indeed a lot worse off. Transportation in OECS countries is JUST expensive 🥲🥲🥲
I pay 500 every 2 months, live just outside Sangre Grande and I work Port of Spain 5 days a week. Nissan leaf 42kw battery.
Wheyzzz...dys goals right there
The MG ZS variant sold in T&T is only 51kwhr. The long range 71Kwhr is not for sale in T&T market. The MG range for 51Kwhr battery is 320kms.
Would love to see you do a test in gridlock traffic with ac and music on full blast
All day, every day. Driving an electric vehicle just means you have to plan your drive based on your capacity. If your vehicle says you can go from point to pos and back 3 times, only do it twice.
Traffic is a blessing to EVs. You get better range after you recharge. But the one time you mash, that's the end of the range.
Owner of ZS EV and MG4
ZS EV real world range is about 300km. MG4 400km. I can't be mad at the paper spec based on WLTP. Oh - just like gas drive like an a$s and you will run down your 'fuel' faster. The MG4 is literally the quickest accelerating car on the island that you can buy for now as the Macan EV is on the way. I drive a ton for work from Sando to Chaguramas to Valencia and everywhere in between and my monthly cost is now in the $200-$300 range and that's with days where I drove for almost 6-7 hours.
As far as the rest goes? I'm happy to not have oil, oil filter, air filter, plugs, and all the rest to see again. Gas station is for juice and corn curls. Dope vid.
A very detailed analysis.
I'm very glad that you did the cost comparison at the end so that Trinis can see how cheap their electricity costs are compared to the rest of the Caribbean. For what it's worth the cost of fuel at the pumps in many of the islands is a lot higher than in Trinidad as well, so relative to that cost, going electric might still have advantages.
That's for now eventually it'll match
Driving slow in traffic in with AC using power screens and computers running still uses your power which means you lose range. Saw that myself during solar eclipse all the tesla cars ran out of range crawling in 5-10mph traffic for 2hrs using power for lights and heat.
This is true, once the Ac comes on the range drops by 10km, if you are not driving in Eco, the range also drops by 10km. If you do both, that's 20km and continues to drop as the trip continues. I just don't use the Ac to make it to work and back with enough charge so I can't keep my charging time to 7. 5 hours max.
AC is a necessity. Always on when I’m driving.
Can we have a true picture without fracturing how much fuel was used to charge the vehicle for each session?
Another excellent video
excellent video thanks.
Excellent analysis 👏
Yo It’s just math
@@LordGovernor420n3gr0s not good at math
I have a lil corolla. 100 dollars gas lasting 4 days from Cumuto to Trincity and I cud still do an odd run.
Bai, save your old oil and grease from when you're cooking and throw it in your diesel tank after you process it. ⛽😂
Massy MG ZSEV is the SR nor the LR (long range) so we only get 320km. And 300 with AC
Not 100% accurate, drove an evoque ev and EQC, you could make it from south to grand Bazaar and back, when we reach south it was on 24%, the maths your using also isn't accurate because by now we know most ev claim and actual miles are different, you would have to compare it with fast charging, on the machine in Couva it came up to 150ttd to fast charge to go 100km, if your charging at home that's where the benefits comes in, but it's too slow for me, sometimes that car gotta charge for over a day to get 90%, and when all is said and done, t&tec would start to charge different, it's a hit and miss, then tires, you can't put any tires on an EV because the range would be affected, it's alot to take in, I should one day do ev,CNG,diesel,hybrid and gas run from POS to Point for people to see what's up, and a overall cost after 100k and calculate battery degradation
If the battery fails how long would take to replace , after warrenty and battery fails it's the cost of a foreign used car so mmmm
You ever try finding out how much for a diesel engine?
What's the point? Anyone ever owned a diesel?
Hmmm... that low cost rate for electricity in T&T has more to do with our natural resources, ie natural gas, than just being a manufacturing country. A matter of fact, one of the major reason why we became a manufacturing country was because of the hydrocarbons we're blessed with.
You some how focused me to sub and I don't own a car, nor is even near to get one. CNG- nothing.
You have now made this my soul mission, as of today as of this comment, only when I get to this if it still logically exists, I will personally gift you something. I will now log this message to a reminder in the future.
bro yuh wisening them to early lemme get mines first na
We need tiny cars
The government owing T&TEC, NGC owing T&TEC billions and vice versa, theres also a shortage of natural gas which is the main source of power generation in this country.....its only a matter of time before all the cards come down and electricity prices skyrocket enjoy the low price for now but its only a matter of time till the cars become an expensive bucket such as maintenance plus charging up
This is an accurate video but left out one very significant possibility. Solar panels. If you have access to solar power then your EV can run for free. Literally the sun can take you to work
Where we can afford to buy.. it tiny cars
that is the trap for now as soon as it bocomes a thing they will kill with price.
I will put coconut water in my Tesla battery and get extra miles
EV sales are declining in the developed countries due to their high cost and maintenance and gross inconvenience, so those charging figures are irrelevant. They also chew up tyres because of their incredible weight and cause fires that are extremely difficult to put out. Countries like those in the Caribbean including Trinidad and Tobago are unlikely to be able to afford the infrastructure required for cars that won't sell because no one will be able to afford them anyway. What people save at the pump will be spent on expensive repairs, extremely poor resale value and ridiculously long charging times - minutes to fill your tank with petrol - HOURS to charge (including waiting times for public chargers).
...sounds just about right, for the Fox news, climate change-isn't-real, sponsored by oil and gas lobby. EV sales are declining *in the US* where they actually had a con-man for a president. For the rest of the sensible world, EVs power on from Norway to the UK and everywhere in-between.
In theory, EVs would be great in the Caribbean. But in practice, people will find that a gas car is simpler and more cost effective.
@@lislewaldron5669 You're 100% wrong. Go drive from NYC to LA with an EV and get back to me. LOL. IN WINTER.
Heh, heh, heh. Free from kingston to Montego Bay and back 380km with the Kia Niro with my solar at home.(driving no more then 90kph of course.. groan!)
Electric cars does do more harm than good because of the lithium-ion Co2 batteries could explode and it sort of bad for the environment. Very similar to gasoline. Hydrogen cars are safe for the environment, greener, H2O but it is very minimum. Better for Eco System. Check them out, do research.
Hell no