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Here in the UK, the BBC have just claimed that used EV sales are 'rocketing', and also that EVs don't depreciate any more than ICE vehicles. They also claim that an EV battery will outlast a conventional ICE car.. (!!!!!). This is the propaganda that is being foisted on the public.....trying to raise the sales of these failed vehicles. It's a laugh a minute.
I don't blame you not wanting a gas car they a have a gas gauge too and if you run out of gasoline you are going no where just adding to your anxiety too.
A newer EV Volvo in the UK caught fire, ablaze in seconds. The rear doors wouldn’t open for the grandfather to get his grandchild out of the carseat in the backseat. He had to go back inside the car & from the front seats, in the smoke, feel for the carseat release. He was able to rescue his grandchild, but is in the hospital with burns. What an incredibly bad design.
I saw that too. I believe the grandfather got burns on 60% of his body. The incident I found out about was a hybrid where the hybrid battery burst into flames igniting the gas tank. You have the worst of both worlds with overly complicated systems stringing everything together. No thank you.
I'll just keep what i have it doesn't need updates, $30,000 to replace the battery, anyone can repair it, I can get gas for it anywhere and I don't have to worry about it bursting into flames and burning my house down.
ICE cars are about 80 times more likely to catch fire than EVs. Battery replacement is rarely needed, and they have at least 8 years warranty in almost all cases. Name me an ICE car that has anything with a warranty like that. Sure, anyone (well, quite a few people) can repair an ICE car. But then, they need so many more repairs.
@@ironclaw6969 What - the section in this video? Is that your source? Well, let's see. A Which report came to the conclusion that more EV owners reported faults in the first 4 years of ownership than did ICE owners. So far so good. But, look at the information more deeply. Most were software faults (and ICE cars are increasingly software-dependent). They report that 39% of EV owners, 19% of Petrol, and 29% of Diesel reported problems. The most unreliable were Tesla, where 39% reported problems (interesting - so it looks like virtually all the problems reported were with Teslas). Of those Tesla owners, 5% reported breakdowns or failure to start. OTOH, of Kia owners 6% reported problems, but only 1% had breakdowns or failure to start. You also need to look carefully at what the various reports are actually covering. JD Powers, for instance, reported only on tyres and infotainment system in one of their reports, saying that EVs came out worse than ICE. But they said nothing about batteries, charging, drivetrain, performance etc. Bottom line, though, is that the reports of unreliability of EVs relates very largely to software issues, including smartphone apps. So there is room for improvement, for sure, but it is not doom and gloom by any means.
Let's look at that 4 minute refuel. I have a Tundra 5.7l. Four minute refuel would be very fast, but we will go with that. Let's consider we are going 50,000 miles and our refuel is 16 gallons. (that would be 4 gallons per minute and ignore all other time spent) So if you get 17 miles per gallon, you would refuel about 184 times which would be about 12.25 hours at the pump, plus the extra time waiting for pumps and credit card approval) I also have a Tesla Model 3 with over 53,000 miles and charge over night at home, except for 2 times I used a super charger. So in total, I have spent about 35 minutes at a charger. You, on the other hand spent at least 12.25 hours holding the fuel nozzle while it may have been -10 degrees and some shady guys watching you from the other side of the station.
Even though it only takes a few minutes to refill a gas car, I did not enjoy it, at least for my local drives I don't need to charge anymore cars good to go in the morning
Not for long. Just like the early uptake of ICE cars took time to replace horses so EV's will replace vast majority of ICE cars. Do some non petrol head research it'll really upset you.
@@gerryparker7699 1894 was the first series produced automobile. 18 years later fords model t was produced, which ramped up the production tremendously because people wanted more cars than available. Did you see the huge fields, where unwanted EVs are stored? Thanks that is a good example of how less people want the EVs!
@@gerryparker7699 Comparing horses and cars with cars and cars very different and you don't even see that distinction. And do you think the earth is flat too.
@@Withnail1969 Haha "fire hazard". A cybertruck was just set on fire with explosives and yet the battery remained fully intact. I swear the world is full of idiots.
62 years old- my last car was an Audi A6 and my Tesla Model Y is my favorite car I've ever owned. Great for local driving. On long trips my bladder fills up before my battery empties and my car is charged by the time I go to the bathroom and grab a snack or two. It's acceleration leaves my A6 in the dust. No oil changes, just filling the wiper fluid and rotating the tires.
@@KKfun286 Got it on December 28, 2023. The biggest problem I've had with it so far is getting it away from my wife who always asks "Can I use the zippy car?"
@@rp9674possible and likely. EV batteries don't last as long as a gas engine. When it's time to replace it, it will cost you at least $15k. My coworker has a Tesla and after 3 years the range has already gone down 10 to 15%. EVs are a gimmick.
6 years owning EVs only, it's already been big savings, less polluting, very nice rides. I've owned EVS for decades, so I know from experience what the difference is. All the myths have been addressed, easily searchable. Ben Sullins has fair data b a s e d analysis, IF you want to know the truth
Fat Donnie also said he would build the Wall and Mexico would pay for it. Fat Donnie also said he would initiate the world's best healthcare system. How did that work out? The reality is Donnie is an expert at everything who knows nothing about anything.
@@rp9674 Just like all those folks in Chicago during the cold snap. Or just like those folks who spend 12 hours on a road trip which takes 7 hours in an ICE vehicle. Or just like those folks who come to understand the range is only 80 percent of the claimed range. Or just like those folks who realize their good EVs are worth less then half after one year.
I remember when horses were the best cos you couldn't get fuel for the cars in the middle of no where. The future is coming and the ICE owners are in denial. Took 30-40 years to replace horses with ICE cars. This time it will be 15 years. But yes some people will need horses and some will still use ICE cars.
@@gerryparker7699 I completely agree that electric cars are the future. Folks buying them now are not on the cutting edge they are on the bleeding edge. Maybe in 15 years things will be different but if you buy an electric car today you should expect significantly higher costs, the risk of being stranded, and higher maintenance costs. My point is these people don't realize that when they're buying an electric car and they should.
@@brianhay4024 2 mates bought Tesla's 4 years ago. Since them and their wifes were driving a lot, both had two cars, another ICE beside the Tesla and they documented every cost in extensive excel-sheets. So far, the Tesla's saved them round about 15.000 Bucks. Batteries at 90% Health after 240.000km. Even if the battery would die instantly, the saved money would buy them a new. So it probably depends on your situation whether it is really cheaper or more expensive.
The HORROR! I conserve on heat sometimes if I'm going on a long trip, which I rarely do. Usually I use the heated seats and steering wheel, it's more comfortable anyway. I have driven gas cars for decades, not worth paying for gas just for the "free" heat
Yeah if your commute is over 580 km or over 360 miles without a charger at work, it's likely that most EVs on the market right now aren't for you unless you have charging at work. However, I don't believe most people work that far from home.
@@Skyhawk1480 alot if people do have long commutes. Mine was 360K one way , zero charging stations in that village. I drove a Honda Civic , cost 35 bucks canadian in gas one way.
In 2020, I bought a Hyundai Kona EV. Had it for 2 years and traded it in for a 2022 Hyundai Ioniq 5 EV (top of the line at the time). I knew all about charging curves, heat pumps, battery preconditioning which the Ioniq 5 had (the Kona I had did not). The Ioniq 5 was far better than the Kona but you all notice my past tense. I will not consider any EV until the charging infrastructure is as convenient as all of those gas stations. Not fun charging in bad weather with no protection, no windshield fluid, no squeegees, no CONVENIENCE. I moved to a hybrid but traded that in for a 2.5L Turbo gas engine vehicle. Compromising for the price of inconvenience wasn't worth it to me. Yes, I experienced most of what was mentioned in this video.
I am a 8 yr ev owner!I never regretted and ready to buy another ev! People who doesn't like a change will be stuck in gasoline forever! I spend less than $10 for fuel everymonth! Infact $0 before covid going to office!
My old car leaf saved me close to $7k which I spent for chevy sonic in maintenance cost andnfuel cost! 0 maintenance and fraction of fuel cost! Moreover you are not polluting! What more you need to make the switch! Oh I forgot performance! My new id.4 can do 0 to 60 in less than 6 secs
You missed out weight. You are more likely to get, (and cause) serious injuries in the event of an accident due to the extra weight of a battery-powered car. That kinetic energy has to go somewhere🤔
@@edb294 Haven't done the calcs but an eighteen wheeler would have an impressive contact area spread over those eighteen wheels and could have a lesser loading per square inch than a large EV. Like I said, I didn't crunch the numbers but I bet it could be close.
I like your attitude. At least you're open to the possibility of maybe ever owning one. Maybe you won't. But at least you're willing to wait instead of just knocking EVs (for imho all the wrong reasons)...
The petrolheads will catch up, one day. They're just a bit slow. Like the people in the Middle Ages who kept insisting the earth was flat. Eventually everyone realised the earth was round but not before sending many people to their deaths for having the gal to say the earth is round... I have driven (mostly brand new) cars like Mazda, Nissan, Dodge, Mercedes and others. My Tesla Model 3 2024 is by far the best car I have ever driven. Admittedly I don't do 500miles a day but I love never having to drive into a gas station anymore, I have my own "fuel" station in my driveway (it's called a power socket 😆), no stupid warnings on a dashboard telling me the car needs a service etc etc ...
@@steveknight878 For the simple fact there are more petrol/diesel cars around the world. When you look at percentages, the story changes a lot. EVs are more dangerous and less reliable than ICE cars which is why insurance is so high for EVs and why many EVs are being banned from underground parking structures. I have a friend going into firefighting and the special training and effort that goes into fighting an EV fire is several factors more dangerous and difficult than putting out an ICE fire plus lithium batteries are highly explosive when coming into contact with salt water which makes them dangerous in floods as well as winters when a lot of salt is used to melt ice. Current lithium ion batteries are very dangerous and bad for the environment and we still do not have a viable way to recycle them. These batteries become more unstable over time. It is not a matter of if but when which is a major factor why used EVs depreciate so much more than ICE vehicles.
@@grantlingley1385 Yes, finally - something that is true. They are difficult to put out - though there are ways of doing so that are becoming available. Better than that, new battery technologies are coming along which do not catch fire. At all. We haven't managed to do that with petrol or Diesel in all these years that they have been catching fire.
One simple fact for all the EV naysayers (including myself to an extent), is that the EV industry is SO new when compared to the ICE industry. What do we all know about ANY new industry? It takes TIME to evolve. Reflect on the PC industry over the last 40 years. I remember when the an IBM 486-based PC was the "latest and greatest". It even had ... get THIS ... HALF a MEG of memory !!!!!!!! Compare that tech to now.
@@steveknight878most of the comments from the video are pretty simple stuff and sadly reflect the infancy of the EV market. Maybe it will get better but still very significant issues to be dealt with.
@@grantlingley1385 But just like horses being replaced by cars, ICE will be replaced by EVs ..... for almost all city folk and then eventually just a few horse riders and ICE cars will be left.
I haven’t experienced any of the issues cited. I own two EVs, BMW i4xdrive and the new Equinox RS. Love both cars. No more gas stations, oil changes and the brakes last forever with regenerative braking. I plug each ev in once a week from my house.
@@fenkliew7550 You'll need a horse then, since you don't need a petrol station to fill up from. Oh and 83% of people live in urban areas so not so much of a problem for most if they can charge from home.
Whenever i write "i wouldn't have one for free" i always get the thumbs down. No one ever gave me a good positive reason to buy one of these fashion accessories. I still say i wouldn't have on given to me for free. I see the charging points down the road, but never a car on them. Gas pumps always have cars on them.
I have a 2023 Hyundai Ioniq 5 AWD SEL that I bought new a little over a year ago. It now has 10000 miles on it. I couldn't be happier and will never go back. My wife just traded her Prius Prime PHEV in for a 2024 Hyundai Ioniq 6 after seeing how great my car has been and she is totally happy as well. It takes a little planning but I wouldn't hesitate to take either across the US on a trip. Neither car has had any issues. If anyone is worried about resale values then simply lease the car and decide what to do at the end of the lease.
@@joejoe7212 If you live in urban areas and 85% of people do you've no need to plan for the vast majority of trips. My mini (poor range by the way) has still done 47,000 miles and I've used public chargers perhaps 10 times. So if you live in the suburbs it's fine. Long distance maybe wait until the range suits your needs. Tech is advancing fast and prices are coming down too.
In Canada. The fire and emergency responders are not allowed to do an extraction of a person trapped in a crashed electric vehicle. They have to stay back at least 30 feet from the vehicle. If you have a hybrid vehicle you can peel the decals off and disguise it as a gas vehicle providing it is available in both formats !!!
A battery could easily last 500,000 miles (as claimed) but by the time it gets there it'll be worn out and only give you half the range when new. The only person I know with a BEV is getting rid of it after 3 years and going back to ICE. I have two ICEs, 40+ and 20+ years old, still banging out 400 mile trips. All that on one tankful of petrol (gas if you're American) not even the far more frugal diesel fuel.
After driving ICE for 40 years I now drive a Tesla. Best car i've ever owned. If it was a shit car I'd be the first to get rid of it. I don't keep cars because I can't afford to change them. I keep them because I like them.
Third one, huh? In how many years, and what did you pay for them? I just bought a 22-year-old Honda Accord LX, this past January, for $2,000--still running fine! I wonder how many EV's you will go through, in 22 years--and how much MORE--it will cost YOU?!? I wonder...
@@michaeltotten7508 maybe he's leasing 'm and maybe he just earns good money ? After my PHEV which I bought couple of years ago I now have a full EV. Best car I have ever owned. And I have owned quite a few brand new cars including a brand new Mercedes ($100K which after 3 years I was lucky to get $50K for - how's that for a great investment?)... And why the heck you'd buy a 22-year old Honda is beyond me. Still running fine? Yeah, how much would have been spent on that car over 22 years replacing parts? If you gonna claim that most parts are still original i will find that very hard to believe ...
Legitimate issues versus Real World experience. I know someone who's been driving his Leaf over 10 years turn my batteries somewhat degraded but it's still going
I own EVs, Excellent Versions of ICEs, Internal Combustion Engine cars. A 2008 Sienna, a 2007 Z4 stick, a 2008 G37 sport stick, and an amazing 2014 BMW X3 MC and since I drive all four, they are low mileage that have kept the value since I bought them used.
@@steveknight878oh yeah, Steve? The "facts" are that MY gas car, that I bought for $2,000, 6 months ago, is 22 years old--and still running fine--and nobody who owned it ever worried about range anxiety, or burned up in a battery fire, or had to cough up 30 grand for a new battery, etc, etc, etc--and it is still running fine, with original engine and transmission--and 215,000 miles on it! Ha ha ha ha ha! EV's are a piece-of-sh*t idea, for rich people, who listen to environmental propaganda, and worthless socialist politicians, and paid-off media...so, if you still think EV'S are such a great idea--why don't you buy ten of them, in the next 22 years--and then bankrupt yourself, doing so, in the process (if you don't burn up in one of them, first, that is)?
@@michaeltotten7508 Good grief! You really have got it bad, haven't you? Well, I wish you luck with your car and hope that it continues to work for you. The odds are against, but that doesn't mean that it won't work out for you. But I should point out that single instances do not tell you anything about the overall picture.
@@Jonas-gl9ke Easy: When the battery needs replacing, and that will cost $30K, but the car is only worth $15K. People walk-away from their EV in this scenario.
When the battery fails in your EV.. you can buy a couple of horses preferably Clydesdales or a couple of big bullocks to tow it around.. and then you can think about moving into a cave.. enjoy the future..😆..
I'm waiting for my 'jetson backpack' to fly me over all road jams. Ok, ok, I do risk my life 500% over land travel. Maybe a ' bubbled type flyer'. Lol!
Great video! No one could have predicted the outcome. With today's technology, we should be able to handle any issues that arise. My main concern has always been the cost of replacing the entire battery after it ages. NIO seems like a good option because the battery can be replaced often, which means there shouldn't be a significant problem with high maintenance costs in this respect.
When I bought my 2nd EV, a Chevy Bolt, the salesperson commented that most of his EV customers at that time knew much more about the car than he did. As the first layer of EV buyers gave way to those who had not done their homework and expected an EV to be "just another car...but with a battery instead of a gas tank" these are the customers who are disillusioned because they didn't "process" what they were getting into before they plunked down the cash. Personally, on my 4th EV (and probably final since I'm 80) I am totally satisfied and will never go back to the ICE age. I have never been to a service facility for any of my 4 EV's...they just work. Traveling works just fine (provided the infrastructure is in place...and working) because the range pretty well matches my range between moments of bladder chatter. By the time I buy a coke and bag of nuts the car is ready for the next leg. I have NEVER waited for my car to be charged (aka fueled)...there are other things to do. 95% of the time it tops up to a full tank while I am asleep. So what's not to like? Quiet, smooth, dependable, and wonderful. (Currently have a Genesis GV60...have never owned a Tesla...I'm a mechanical engineer)
EVs were never going to fully replace fossil fuelled cars for all of the reasons in this video, what I said a few years ago is exactly what is happening now. The range was the main worry but that would become even worse when the battery was about three years old, the next worry was the time that it takes to charge, fine if you can charge at home and use the car just for local trips but for a longish drive, you would find that the journey would take longer and it would have been worse if there were more EVs on the road, charging no matter how fast would still have cars queueing to use the charger and each person with the very least, twenty minutes for a moderate charge, meanwhile the queue would get longer. The way forward is synthetic fuel may well be the way forward and that is what they should have been concentrating on instead of electric. Synthetic fuel is more complicated to produce but it can replace petrol and diesel with very little change to the engine, of course it will be a lot more expensive than petrol until we have the amount produced, we are years behind this but that is just about the only answer, synthetic fuel can be filled from the same petrol stations that we now have and it would take the same time as getting petrol.
@honestchris7472 Synthetic fuel is one permanent replacement, the next permanent replacement for electric cars is biofuels. Like synthetic fuel, biofuels are specifically designed to work in internal combustion engines [gas, and diesel] without costly modifications.
Range is an issue but will be overcome with increase battery tech ranges, cheaper batteries and better infrastructure. However as a society if you do not invest in EVs the American car market will fall behind everyone else. Be careful you don't back the wrong tech.
@@gerryparker7699 It will be years before the range is increased enough to make it viable to make long journeys and the charging necessary for long journeys will cost nearly as much as fossil fuels, it is cheap when you can charge at home but that is not possible on long trips, the other main draw back is that we are years away from having enough charging points on the road and if electric cars become very popular, there would be many more on the road to want a charge, this would mean queuing to use the charger. I would have thought hydrogen would be a better option. I think that electric cars will be great but just for local use when you can use it for a few miles during the day and then charge at night ready for the next day. I will stick to fossil fuels for now.
Keep living in lala land as your favorite ICE companies reap what they sow and go under. All those overpriced gas cars sitting in lots you people won't buy, they aren't there by accident. I'd like to see what excuses you people make to hold on to some pride.
Engineer here. I"m all in favor of green technology but I must say, today's electric vehicles (EVs) are nowhere near ready to replace internal combustion engine (ICE) vehicles. The available EVs including Teslas, are really nothing more than expensive toys for the ultra rich. They are not practical except in very specific circumstances that avoid their limitations. I've always thought that flex fuel, hybrid vehicles are the best way right now to get carbon emissions down. Are EVs the future? Only if new energy storage technologies are invented that make them as usable as ICE vehicles. The best we have right now are lithium batteries and these have too many limitations. A person below said "4 minutes at a gas station and my truck gets 400 miles" and that expresses the problem perfectly! A 80kWh battery pack cannot be recharged in minutes with any known battery chemistry! xx hours are required. Another issue that rarely gets mentioned is that many ICE engines can go 70k - 100k miles without major engine work being needed. Despite what Honda, Toyota and Telsa might say, I don't believe one will get 70k, let alone the 100k figure Honda touts on its hybrids, out of a battery pack before it fails. These batteries only last for a certain number of discharge/recharge cycles, true for ALL rechargeable. When these go bad, the whole pack must be replaced. On EVs, we're talking a price similar to purchasing a rebuilt ICE engine, a few thousand. Is that affordable for the general public? I owned a Honda Civic Hybrid and the battery pack started going bad at 35K (warranty would not cover it due to car age with low miles, dealer wanted 4K to install a refurbished pack of used batteries) so I traded it for an ICE vehicle instead. Live and learn.
Some will regret just like everything people buy ever. No product will ever be 100 % satisfied. I have two teslas and the change I go back to ICE is 0%. I save time and money from evading up, oil changes, spark plug, smog checks, break pads. I could save days from not having gas to do that.
The average life span of an EV battery is definition dependent on how much charge that battery can attain and hold over time. And Not all EV batteries are created equal. Don't go on "estimated" life span. Fast charging degrades the EV battery quicker. And even a minor collision can injure the EV battery. Finding out if your EV battery is safe to run, is nearly impossible to figure out. The cost to replace a EV Battery Is significant.
We bought an electric vehicle last year, a nice little chevy. We've been Overjoyed with it and haven't had a bit of trouble with it! The dealer even gave us a home charger so we rarely have to purchase energy on the road! I wouldn't go back to a piston engine if you paid me!! #GoElectric
Wow, the first time the words "nice little Chevy" have been used in the same sentence in many, many years. Is that Chevy one of those Barra recommends parking away from any house or garage to avoid a potential catastrophic fire?
@@mattcintosh2 GM recalled 141,000 and confirmed 16 Bolts erupted in flames. The NHTSA and GM urged owners of Bolts to park their vehicles outside and away from homes and other structures due to the risk of fires. Parking garages put up signs banning Bolts. A Bolt might be something you would choose. For, me I value my family and my properly to dearly to risk exposing them to a Bolt. Hard to imagine anyone trusting GM.
@@jerrylundegaard2592its been over 3 years since a Bolt fire, and Zero in the ones with the replaced batteries. I wouldnt have trusted one with the original batteries, but am confident with my Feb 2022 battery.
Well Johnny, I hope you are happy with your little EV purchase...but, I wonder how much you paid for it? I bought a 2002 Honda Acoord LX, 6 months ago, for $2,000--and am quite happy with it, also. I did have to fix it up, a little bit (even though it was running OK, when I got it)--but nothing like a $30,000 EV battery replacement. So far, I've spent $2,000 to buy it, $1,660 for insurance, for 1 year (or about $130 a month), $140 in sales tax, another $100 or so for registration and new title fees, and about $3,500 or so in maintenance (for things like new tires and new struts, to get it running the way I want it to run), plus about $250 or $300 in 6 months, for gasoline--for a total of about $7,000, or so, including everything. But it works fine, for my purposes, as a (mostly) retired senior citizen, and most of those costs will be non-recurring, in the near future (obviously, I'll only pay once, to buy it, and my insurance is now paid up through next January, and my tires should last me a few years, and the struts even longer, etc.) But, I'd be willing to bet, that you paid a lot more than $7,000, for you little luxury toy, and even more when your insurance, sales tax, dmv fees, maintenance, and recharging costs are added on. Maybe you gotta break, with a govt subsidy, but as those are disappearing, sales plummet accordingly. And, will yours still be working fine, with original trans & engine, in 22 years, like mine is?
I would love to see your word that refers “lack” and “many” terms uses in this videos has it statistical number (perhaps a link references would be great), so then it would help to support this video titles such number of success story and fails story can be measured fairly, yet running cost comparison fossil fuel vs electricity than can also be saved for a great maintenance after warranty i.e. buying a battery replacement. 😅
Beyond all the charging inconvenience I thought id at least enjoy the handling, but I was wrong. Suspension was terrible, not sure if its the excessive weight on a small car. Instant torque is the last thing you want navigating a tight parking spot or pulling out on wet pavement, regen braking feels like the emergency brake is always stuck on.. not for me.
My concerns are that the eight year battery warranty is too short and that software is only covered during the factory warranty period. Even if the battery is intact, what if software bricks the car, will we owners have to fork $$ because an unnecessary or untested OTA update was pushed to the vehicle? My Honda Accord has had only one firmware update within a year of production . I don't think the CT200h I bought from a friend has had any software update even if it's a hybrid.
@@rp9674 I know right? I have an 8 year old Model S. That's 8 years driving 120 miles to a gallon equivalent, waking up to a full charge, no oil changes, no brake changes no tune ups on a car that drives like the first day it rolled out the dealer lot. Let's weigh that against 8 years of failed "what ifs".
We are seeing local Ionic Q5 Owners having to replace their Batteries after running over some road debris….even the dealer thought it was not significant damage….alas the battery could not be repaired. Cost to replace…$56 K. Both cars were written off by insurance! Apparently there are more but those were the two that hit the news locally.
With regard to the depreciation issue of EVs : I naively bought a used BMW i3 (which unfortunately had a catastrophically low range), and when I tried to trade it in, nobody was interested in it except BMW, from whom I nevertheless still lost 22% of its value in just 6 months. I am a very happy diesel driver again (BMW216d Active Tourer) with a range of ca 1300km.. 🚗💨👍 Having said that, I will be looking at Nissan’s e-Power vehicles when I decide to part ways with my Active Tourer : it’s gives you the EV driving experience without all the hassle of EV cars.. (high prices, range anxiety, availability of charging facilities, charging cards, software, depreciation..).
Like any new technology, batteries will improve, charging times will get faster, and parts will be more plentiful. Right now, the charging network and cost of repairs are out of reach for most Americans. I did own a Volt, and I miss the torque and quietness of the vehicle. Let’s see what happens in the next 5 to 10 years?
It is not surprising that there are negative opinions because it is still new and the infrastructure has not been properly formed.... but in the future it will definitely be better because it is cheaper and environmentally friendly.
Reliability discussion an interesting point. Many of the modern engines suffer more from electronic issues than mechanical failures. Or from mechanical issues resulting from electronics. And of course the concept of disabling half an engine from firing in cruise mode. A traditional V8 without tech will run for many more years with clean ops far longer than a turbo 4-banger.
@steveknight878 yeah, lot of health benefits from breathing toxic gases, spewing out of an EV battery, during thermal runaway, for sure! Meanwhile, burn more fossil fuels, to charge all of these EV's, too...
@@michaeltotten7508 Very few EV fires, as opposed to the much more common ICE fires - that also spew out toxic gases, not counting the toxic gasses that they spew out even when working normally. As for burning fossil fuels to charge the EVs - that depends upon where you are. In some parts of the world (Europe, UK) most (sometimes all) electricity is produced by wind, solar, hydro or nuclear, not fossil fuels. Maybe not so good in USA, I guess. Then there are all the pollutants produced in making the fossil fuels.
Yeah, the work around to enter from outside a Tesla when the 12v fails is several steps. You’ll remember that in an emergency, right ? The fireman just smashed a window in, they haven’t read the manual either, and weren’t going to take the time to google it. I like an external door handle, simple, obvious, dependable, and everyone knows how to use it. My life is worth more than a cool looking style.
It happens whenever any electric vehicle starts going haywire for a number of reasons. ANY number of reasons such as lithium battery failure, malfunction, driving it for long range of miles, overheating (even in warm weather,when the weather isn't too hot or cold.) Too wet. Too dry. Using it for test runs. Tesla is a good electric vehicle that likes to have *SO* many problems, concerning drivers dealing with unwanted, unexpected issues... When novice or expert car drivers at least expect it. Doesn't matter if you read, know,and are familiar with any instruction manual. I know I wouldn't ever hardly get too excited over electric vehicles that have nothing but inconveniences. It's more than just frustrating. Irritating. Or just plain annoying. It's madness mayhem for ANY and ALL EV's. To me, it's just not worth fussing over. And making a big ado over nothing. Electric vehicle fanboys and fangirls can say whatever they want. Doesn't mean much if the facts don't add up. And are nothing but hype. Because if any electric vehicle breaks down and stops working; it's time to break out the Hammerdex. Available on TH-cam. Or sometimes called the breaker. Breeker. Whatever it's called. It's simply a device that can break down the laminated window or windows of any electric vehicle,to get out of there. If ANY electric vehicle stops working,you better have a cell phone with you. AND something that can break out the window. And cut the seat belt if *that* ever happens,also. It CAN happen ; and often does if something like that does happen. It's best to have it on you. Especially if you do get into an accident,and something like THAT ever happens,too. So.......be prepared.
He reported that an F-150 Lightning lost a lot of range when towing a 7000 pound trailer. Guess what. My F-150 (3.5 liter turbo V-6) drops from 22 mpg to 8.5 mpg when towing my 7000 pound travel trailer -- close to the same proportion of range loss. However, it is less of a problem due to its 36 gallon fuel tank. The truck is only used about 4000 miles a year, mostly for towing and hauling -- RV, boat, horse trailer, and farm work. It still sees a lot of gas stations at $3.50 per gallon. In contrast, my 2021 Mach-E, which has been flawless sees 12,000 mile per year of typical use into town and back with only a few long road trip each year. On Sundays I take 30 seconds to plug it in and another 30 seconds to unplug it Monday mornings and it is powered for the entire week unless I do a long trip. Cost of electricity for it amounts to less than 2 cents per mile since I charge it from the solar array on my roof using surplus electricity for which the electric company would pay me only 5.6 cents per kWH.
We have driven over 32000Km in our 2023 VW ID.4, including four road trips. We have not had any problems. We love the vehicle. OK, we have home charging which is a big advantage. It is important to accept that this is a new technology and will take time to smooth out all the bugs. We would not tow anything with this car. The charging infrastructure still has a way to go. We don’t have any regrets over our EV purchase.
Idk the first dude i know who got an ev had already had 3 major issues in 2 and a half years and each time it sat a month on average in the garage waiting for parts
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Source: Dailey Mail, consumer reporting, 25 July 2024. In America for the first time, the average resale value of an EV is Less then the average resale value of a gas powered car. Ford has lost 2.5 Billion dollars in its EV division , just in the first half of 2024. Ford shares are down . Tesla sales have plunged this year.
I don’t regret buying my EV. Cost me 2p a mile to run and after 4 years the battery has only lost 5% of its original range. But hey, go on believing all the EV misinformation garbage while I enjoy my cheap, carefree motoring.
I hear people say ICE vehicle catch on fire more than EVs. Well, there are more ICE (internal combustion vehicles) on the road than EVs. When you look at percentages, the story changes a lot. EVs are more dangerous and less reliable than ICE cars which is why insurance is so high for EVs and why many EVs are being banned from underground parking structures. I have a friend going into firefighting and the special training and effort that goes into fighting an EV fire is several factors more dangerous and difficult than putting out an ICE fire plus lithium batteries are highly explosive when coming into contact with salt water which makes them dangerous in floods as well as winters when a lot of salt is used to melt ice. Current lithium ion batteries are very dangerous and bad for the environment and we still do not have a viable way to recycle them. These batteries become more unstable over time. It is not a matter of if they will have catastrophic failure but when, which is a major factor why used EVs depreciate so much more than ICE vehicles. I have a non-EV, non-hybrid Toyota. I have had it for 5 years. My car looks like new and runs better than new. Toyota even offered to buy it back from me for good money. I need my car so I said no but that would not happen if it was an EV. I plan on keeping this car long after I am done with my payments and I have just 3 months left. EVs are not good even in a financial sense especially if you plan on owning things. If you are the type of person who likes to own nothing and be happy then EVs are perfect for you.
Euhm, petrol cars explode... don't you worry about that? Also the numbers are already according to percentages. ICE cars catch on fire more often but it's not reported in the news, since it's so common... A lot of news reports also falsely claim EV's caught on fire while it's actually a hybrid.
@@rp9674 No worries. I have owned ICE vehicles for over 34 years and I have been around ICE vehicles all my life since my parents owned ICE vehicles and for the 1/2 century I have been around them we have NEVER had an ICE vehicle catch on fire. I park my 2 ICE vehicles in my garage, a Honda and a Toyota, and I have zero worries about them catching on fire and burning down my house.
@@rp9674 It does when the statistics are skewed for a a certain outcome as in the book "How To Lie With Statistics" by Darrell Huff & Irving Geis with an endorsement by Bill Gates. Never underestimate what you have seen and experienced with your own eyes. Also, feel free to look up the book if you never heard of it because many people are putting the strategies in that book in play today.
It would have been much smarter to go to plug in hybrids not just try to switch to straight electric. The average person would be fine with 100 miles of range with a plug in hybrid that’s more than enough for everyone’s daily needs so they only charge at home but if they need to go out of town on the weekend or get stuck in a snowstorm the gasoline engine starts up and takes over. Had this been the real push it would have been a much easier transition in every way. People would feel much better about buying the vehicle because they aren’t limited, it would put less strain on the electric grids because they can’t supply enough power yet and the technology for ev’s has time to get better. I live in upstate ny and I always talk about this situation. So i90 is the major thruway running east to west of the state. Buffalo gets some insane snow and there have been times where there are multiple car pileups in snow storms on i90 causing vehicles to be stuck for hours or even days. I remember one time back in the late 2000’s there were vehicles stuck for 2 days something like 5 miles of cars. Now just imagine if there were electric vehicles there it would have been a massive problem nobody would have heat, emergency services couldn’t help everyone and getting miles of dead electric cars moved would be impossible they would need to be charged so some type of big trucks with charging stations would need to be built.
I leased my Tesla model 3 with 358 miles of range in December 2022. It is charged at my home in San Francisco. Since I have solar panels there is NO cost to charge the car. Typically, the car travels 4 miles per kwh of charge (the national average cost of 1 kwh is $0.17). The only problem so far has been a flat tire and that was fixed by Tesla service that I called on my iphone app. I never had a software problem. My main disappointment has been that the self-driving feature is really a fancy cruise control. I am too timid to use the full self-driving mode on the Bay Area roads. I do not regret buying my EV car. I believe that cheaper EV cars (~$25K) are coming in a couple years and will replace ICE cars.
Full self-driving or autonomous is going to give Mobility to a lot of people that have been dependent, also save a lot of lives, but I'm uncomfortable with the in-between stage where you have to be ready for the one out of a million exception
Your evidence is based in what reality. I have been driving EV's for 7 years and will never be going back to an ICE car ever There are a lot of bad EV's out there built by Legacy Car Companies, that thought it would be easy to take out the ICE engine and replace with an electric motor and take out the fuel tank and replace with a battery and they would have an EV but they failed badly, they never realised theres a lot of software needed in a EV of which they have no idea how to make or implement. People but a brand because they have always bought that brand and do no research expecting the product to be right, only dedicated EV car companies have got it right
I am NOT OPEC, but I AM a concerned citizen--and brilliant electrical engineer!!! EV technology is a PIECE-OF-SH!T idea!!!!! Brought to us by leftwing, weed-smoking, totally impractical environmental socialists!!! There are SO MANY things WRONG with this technology--I don't know WHERE to begin!!! Perhaps you don't mind, "coughing up" $50,000 every 8 years or so, for an EV--but I just bought (this past January) a gasoline-burning 2002 Honda Accord LX--for $2,000--for this 22-year-old vehicle--still working fine! Meanwhile, in 22 years of typical EV ownership, YOU will have "coughed up" $150,000, or more (if you don't get into any accidents, that is!) This battery technology is GREAT, for throwaway devices like smartphones or laptops, thrown away after a few years and replaced--but it is a very bad idea--for putting such fragile, easily broken technology, in heavy vehicles travelling long distances at high speeds in MUCH HARSHER ENVIRONMENTS, and requiring THOUSANDS OF TIMES MORE ENERGY, too! Too easily broken, too costly to replace, too dangerous when failed (in thermal runaway)--and way too inconvenient, and anxiety-filled. Many people still have trouble with, or don't even use, smartphones or computers (of any kind!)--imagine how they would STRUGGLE, with this technology incorporated into vehicle operation!!! What we need NOW, is to STOP this EV MADNESS--and tell all these environmentalists and socialist politicians to go F themselves!!!!!!!!
I have never had a single issue with my Nissan Leaf in three years of oiwnership. I did call RAC on two occasions over the 12v battery. Both times it was discharged overnight because of my own left lights on error. No fault at all with the car.
Very few EV owners are going back * no tune ups * no oil changes * no smog test * almost no maintenance * Less things to break * no catalytic converter theft * no engine heat ruining plastic & rubber parts * Less noise to ruin the music * Less vibration * no idling engine to run AC or heat * extreme acceleration (from 70 mph) * Less stressful traffic jam driving * No cat gutz in the fan belts 🤣 * no dirty oily engine bay * no oil leaking on the driveway
Let’s not forget the gov is subsidizing $7500 per car to purchase of these vehicles, and even with that, they are costly for many families. It’s a tax subsidy for the rich. The market would naturally encourage innovation and transition to new technologies when fuel prices get high enough that electric or hydrogen powered vehicles become competitive
This is reality. I recently purchased a SUBARU SOLTERRA and immediately regretted it. The full charge time from 0% to 100% is 2 DAYS and 5 HOURS. No rear wiper w/c was terrible during rainy days/\. Visibility was so low and rear window heater takes time . I dread the coming winter since I live in Illinois. Definitely not recommended. Dealer in Palatine will promise a lot of benefits but will not deliver all. A HuGE disappointment.
Did not switch to EV but do intend to. Among all by acquantacnies and relatives, only one regretted buying an EV and this person simply wasn't informed with what she would deal with
18 months, huh? I just bought a 22-year-old car, for $2,000, 6 months ago, that is still running fine. How "fine" will your expensive, costly to operate, dangerous EV be running, 22 years from now, huh? And how much will it be worth then, huh? (...while most likely long since "thrown away" and rotting on an environmentally disastrous, non-recyclable JUNKPILE, that is!)
@rp9674 yeah, sure, I'll just pull $50,000, out of my @ss to run out and buy an EV, like one of my friends just did, in Nov '22, for an ordinary Tesla model 3, and he's already worried about it starting & running...of course, the $2,000 that I paid for my beat-up old Honda, is a little less than 50 grand, right? But, I have no prob if YOU want to THROW AWAY all YOUR money, on an EV; no prob at all--just don't ask ME to sell my left nut, in order to buy one--I don't even have that much credit, on all 7 of my credit cards combined! But I have no prob with YOU going bankrupt, to own one--for sure! Still like my "comedy", huh? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha...
(That was supposed to be a comma not comedy) I'm a rich Coastal Elite so it's different for me, my first EV was $8,000 in 2018, the most I've ever spent on a car for myself, more than made up for it in savings on gas and maintenance. I've recently got extra fancy and got a new Chevy Bolt for $20,500 after rebates.
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@@PistonPundit EV's are too reliable and not cash cows for dealerships ESPECIALLY Chrysler. THE MOST UNRELIABLE AMERICAN CAR Brand.
This is TOTAL BU11 $h1+
Everyone with a brain would never buy an Electric piece of $ h1+
Here in the UK, the BBC have just claimed that used EV sales are 'rocketing', and also that EVs don't depreciate any more than ICE vehicles. They also claim that an EV battery will outlast a conventional ICE car.. (!!!!!). This is the propaganda that is being foisted on the public.....trying to raise the sales of these failed vehicles. It's a laugh a minute.
That's hilarious considering there are still ICE car from the 70s on the road here in the US today.
You know what happens with rockets, they fall back down to earth.
Yes I think you have nailed it
Definitely EV propaganda!
It might just wake a few more people up to what the BBC is really like ;-)
I have enough anxiety without worrying whether my vehicle will get me to where I want to go. 👎
That's how I feel about EVs I trust it more to accelerate quickly and get me out of trouble and not likely to give me a fail warning
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I don't blame you not wanting a gas car they a have a gas gauge too and if you run out of gasoline you are going no where just adding to your anxiety too.
A newer EV Volvo in the UK caught fire, ablaze in seconds. The rear doors wouldn’t open for the grandfather to get his grandchild out of the carseat in the backseat. He had to go back inside the car & from the front seats, in the smoke, feel for the carseat release. He was able to rescue his grandchild, but is in the hospital with burns.
What an incredibly bad design.
I saw that too. I believe the grandfather got burns on 60% of his body. The incident I found out about was a hybrid where the hybrid battery burst into flames igniting the gas tank. You have the worst of both worlds with overly complicated systems stringing everything together. No thank you.
Except it wasn't an EV. It was a 'mild hybrid' and the fire didn't start in the battery, plus was exacerbated by the fuel.
Who’s paying
Solid state batteries for me.
@@flashsushi1843 I really hope to hear more on solid state batteries soon as well as carbon ion batteries.
I'll just keep what i have it doesn't need updates, $30,000 to replace the battery, anyone can repair it, I can get gas for it anywhere and I don't have to worry about it bursting into flames and burning my house down.
ICE cars are about 80 times more likely to catch fire than EVs. Battery replacement is rarely needed, and they have at least 8 years warranty in almost all cases. Name me an ICE car that has anything with a warranty like that. Sure, anyone (well, quite a few people) can repair an ICE car. But then, they need so many more repairs.
@@steveknight878 So you missed that whole section on reliability did you?
@@ironclaw6969 What - the section in this video? Is that your source? Well, let's see. A Which report came to the conclusion that more EV owners reported faults in the first 4 years of ownership than did ICE owners. So far so good. But, look at the information more deeply. Most were software faults (and ICE cars are increasingly software-dependent). They report that 39% of EV owners, 19% of Petrol, and 29% of Diesel reported problems. The most unreliable were Tesla, where 39% reported problems (interesting - so it looks like virtually all the problems reported were with Teslas). Of those Tesla owners, 5% reported breakdowns or failure to start. OTOH, of Kia owners 6% reported problems, but only 1% had breakdowns or failure to start.
You also need to look carefully at what the various reports are actually covering. JD Powers, for instance, reported only on tyres and infotainment system in one of their reports, saying that EVs came out worse than ICE. But they said nothing about batteries, charging, drivetrain, performance etc.
Bottom line, though, is that the reports of unreliability of EVs relates very largely to software issues, including smartphone apps. So there is room for improvement, for sure, but it is not doom and gloom by any means.
@@steveknight878 Doubletalk all you want, the bottom-line conclusion is still the same.
@@ironclaw6969 I'm sorry, am I confusing you with actual facts, rather than just beliefs and assumptions?
4 minutes at a gas station and my truck gets 400 miles
Let's look at that 4 minute refuel. I have a Tundra 5.7l. Four minute refuel would be very fast, but we will go with that. Let's consider we are going 50,000 miles and our refuel is 16 gallons. (that would be 4 gallons per minute and ignore all other time spent) So if you get 17 miles per gallon, you would refuel about 184 times which would be about 12.25 hours at the pump, plus the extra time waiting for pumps and credit card approval) I also have a Tesla Model 3 with over 53,000 miles and charge over night at home, except for 2 times I used a super charger. So in total, I have spent about 35 minutes at a charger. You, on the other hand spent at least 12.25 hours holding the fuel nozzle while it may have been -10 degrees and some shady guys watching you from the other side of the station.
And pay with cash .
$$$$$
My ev leaves the garage every morning with a fuel battery
Even though it only takes a few minutes to refill a gas car, I did not enjoy it, at least for my local drives I don't need to charge anymore cars good to go in the morning
That is why after 18 years of politics forcing EV we have worldwide less than 3% EVs.
It’s a total Scam , pushed by government idiots! 😆 person has to be a sucker to buy into it! 😂
It’s a total Scam , pushed by government idiots! 😆 person has to be a sucker to buy into it! 😂
Not for long. Just like the early uptake of ICE cars took time to replace horses so EV's will replace vast majority of ICE cars. Do some non petrol head research it'll really upset you.
@@gerryparker7699 1894 was the first series produced automobile. 18 years later fords model t was produced, which ramped up the production tremendously because people wanted more cars than available.
Did you see the huge fields, where unwanted EVs are stored?
Thanks that is a good example of how less people want the EVs!
@@gerryparker7699 Comparing horses and cars with cars and cars very different and you don't even see that distinction. And do you think the earth is flat too.
Wait until they charge you to dispose of them
Play you t oreuse the batteries, then recycle them
That's going to become a real issue. Scrapyards don't want them due to the fire hazard.
We are charged now to dispose a gasoline vehicle and it must have the oil and gasoline drained out of it. Apparently it's a BIG FIRE HAZARD.
@@Withnail1969 Haha "fire hazard". A cybertruck was just set on fire with explosives and yet the battery remained fully intact. I swear the world is full of idiots.
@@ElMistroFeroz Doesnt follow. They can still be a fire hazard. It only takes one battery cell out of thousands to fail.
62 years old- my last car was an Audi A6 and my Tesla Model Y is my favorite car I've ever owned.
Great for local driving. On long trips my bladder fills up before my battery empties and my car is charged by the time I go to the bathroom and grab a snack or two.
It's acceleration leaves my A6 in the dust. No oil changes, just filling the wiper fluid and rotating the tires.
John, how long have you owned your Tesla for?
@@KKfun286 Got it on December 28, 2023. The biggest problem I've had with it so far is getting it away from my wife who always asks "Can I use the zippy car?"
My ICE needed a new battery,cost $200.My neighbors Tesla toasted his battery,cost,40k Canadian.
Possible but unlikely
@@rp9674possible and likely. EV batteries don't last as long as a gas engine. When it's time to replace it, it will cost you at least $15k. My coworker has a Tesla and after 3 years the range has already gone down 10 to 15%. EVs are a gimmick.
6 years owning EVs only, it's already been big savings, less polluting, very nice rides. I've owned EVS for decades, so I know from experience what the difference is. All the myths have been addressed, easily searchable. Ben Sullins has fair data b a s e d analysis, IF you want to know the truth
@@old_dan You probably thought horses were here to stay until you bought a new fangled car.
@@gerryparker7699 I'm sorry, is that supposed to be a dig at my comment? 😂
Do better.
Trump in his RNC speech, said he will end EV subsides on day #1.
Fat Donnie also said he would build the Wall and Mexico would pay for it.
Fat Donnie also said he would initiate the world's best healthcare system.
How did that work out?
The reality is Donnie is an expert at everything who knows nothing about anything.
Yeah!!!
EVs must be stopped before everyone figures out how good they are
the United States subsidizes the fossil fuel industry with taxpayer dollars
@@rp9674 Just like all those folks in Chicago during the cold snap. Or just like those folks who spend 12 hours on a road trip which takes 7 hours in an ICE vehicle. Or just like those folks who come to understand the range is only 80 percent of the claimed range. Or just like those folks who realize their good EVs are worth less then half after one year.
Every single one of these problems was easily knowable prior to anyone purchasing.
I remember when horses were the best cos you couldn't get fuel for the cars in the middle of no where. The future is coming and the ICE owners are in denial. Took 30-40 years to replace horses with ICE cars. This time it will be 15 years. But yes some people will need horses and some will still use ICE cars.
@@gerryparker7699 I completely agree that electric cars are the future. Folks buying them now are not on the cutting edge they are on the bleeding edge. Maybe in 15 years things will be different but if you buy an electric car today you should expect significantly higher costs, the risk of being stranded, and higher maintenance costs. My point is these people don't realize that when they're buying an electric car and they should.
@@brianhay4024 2 mates bought Tesla's 4 years ago. Since them and their wifes were driving a lot, both had two cars, another ICE beside the Tesla and they documented every cost in extensive excel-sheets. So far, the Tesla's saved them round about 15.000 Bucks. Batteries at 90% Health after 240.000km. Even if the battery would die instantly, the saved money would buy them a new. So it probably depends on your situation whether it is really cheaper or more expensive.
Thirty thousand dollar battery replacement costs? I can't afford that. My entire car cost less than 20k.
Really - you don't even own an EV - too clueless
Exactly !
Too broke is more like it.
That's after 20 years... you are likely to buy a new car by then...
@@ulyks
8 actually. That's about average when we get them to have the battery replaced. Cost from 15,000 to 45,000
The best software feature is Geofencing. Ultimately allowing the powers that be to totally disable vehicles.
Screw you
People act like these features are *only* on electric cars. Within a few years, *all* cars will have those features people don't want....
See the Wired Magazine article from many years ago when a Jeep gas vehicle was hacked and controlled remotely
I know of an EV owner who rarely uses the car heater because it uses so much battery power that it cuts range.
The HORROR! I conserve on heat sometimes if I'm going on a long trip, which I rarely do. Usually I use the heated seats and steering wheel, it's more comfortable anyway. I have driven gas cars for decades, not worth paying for gas just for the "free" heat
Yeah if your commute is over 580 km or over 360 miles without a charger at work, it's likely that most EVs on the market right now aren't for you unless you have charging at work. However, I don't believe most people work that far from home.
If your commute is over 300 miles, that's over 4 hours unpaid unproductive time, your life is broken
you forgot AC is a HUGE power drain also. I guess you just sweat your A** off when its 35C out.
Seat warmers will not defrost your windows .
@@Skyhawk1480 alot if people do have long commutes. Mine was 360K one way , zero charging stations in that village.
I drove a Honda Civic , cost 35 bucks canadian in gas one way.
In 2020, I bought a Hyundai Kona EV. Had it for 2 years and traded it in for a 2022 Hyundai Ioniq 5 EV (top of the line at the time). I knew all about charging curves, heat pumps, battery preconditioning which the Ioniq 5 had (the Kona I had did not). The Ioniq 5 was far better than the Kona but you all notice my past tense.
I will not consider any EV until the charging infrastructure is as convenient as all of those gas stations. Not fun charging in bad weather with no protection, no windshield fluid, no squeegees, no CONVENIENCE. I moved to a hybrid but traded that in for a 2.5L Turbo gas engine vehicle. Compromising for the price of inconvenience wasn't worth it to me. Yes, I experienced most of what was mentioned in this video.
"Compromising for the price of inconvenience wasn't worth it to me." Depends if you'd rather want the inconvenience of global warming I guess.
@@gerryparker7699what’s wrong with global warming?
I am a 8 yr ev owner!I never regretted and ready to buy another ev! People who doesn't like a change will be stuck in gasoline forever!
I spend less than $10 for fuel everymonth! Infact $0 before covid going to office!
My old car leaf saved me close to $7k which I spent for chevy sonic in maintenance cost andnfuel cost!
0 maintenance and fraction of fuel cost! Moreover you are not polluting! What more you need to make the switch!
Oh I forgot performance! My new id.4 can do 0 to 60 in less than 6 secs
Nice!
EV's Shill detected 😂😂😂
You missed out weight. You are more likely to get, (and cause) serious injuries in the event of an accident due to the extra weight of a battery-powered car. That kinetic energy has to go somewhere🤔
Also, due to their weight, they go through tires at a much higher rate.
@@chrisbrown8602All that weight is also harder on the road surface.
@@chrisbrown8602 Also they require specific tyres not normal car tyres which a more exspensive than normal tyres.
@@Helm-w1q much worse then a Semi grossed out at 80,000.
@@edb294 Haven't done the calcs but an eighteen wheeler would have an impressive contact area spread over those eighteen wheels and could have a lesser loading per square inch than a large EV. Like I said, I didn't crunch the numbers but I bet it could be close.
When I see over 85% of private vehicles are EVs, I’ll take a closer look at one.
I like your attitude. At least you're open to the possibility of maybe ever owning one. Maybe you won't. But at least you're willing to wait instead of just knocking EVs (for imho all the wrong reasons)...
Driving an Kia eSoul without any problems for 5 years now????????? An EV wil never be it for a petrolhead!
The petrolheads will catch up, one day. They're just a bit slow. Like the people in the Middle Ages who kept insisting the earth was flat. Eventually everyone realised the earth was round but not before sending many people to their deaths for having the gal to say the earth is round... I have driven (mostly brand new) cars like Mazda, Nissan, Dodge, Mercedes and others. My Tesla Model 3 2024 is by far the best car I have ever driven. Admittedly I don't do 500miles a day but I love never having to drive into a gas station anymore, I have my own "fuel" station in my driveway (it's called a power socket 😆), no stupid warnings on a dashboard telling me the car needs a service etc etc ...
EV's Shill detected 😂😂😂
My friend has an EV. It broke down and had trouble finding a tow company. He cant even sell it. 👎
Many tow companies refuse to tow EVs. That tells you something
Crazy talk, you think you need a special EV tow truck?
I had my EV towed twice. No issues. I hit a deer in one case, and 2nd time I bent my rim hitting a pothole
Then you must live in the middle of no where with people who are clueless about EVs.
Not me/ have not stoped at a gas station in 4 years and love it no issues at all.
that's the best part, not having to stop at gas stations anymore!
Almost 6 yr for me, it's enjoyable
I second your emotion!
I have stopped in a EV charging station though, although only once during past 11 years
@chenyansong you won! 11yr !
Range anxiety- I'm sure big pharma can come out with a drug for that.
I hope it only comes in suppository form. EV owners deserve it for letting conmen like Elon scam them.
It's the same as people that freak out when they're gas goes below half full (mother-in-law)
The person who came up with the term "Range Anxiety" really knew his sheep.
What about the battery fires ???
Agreed! I was thinking the same thing.
What about the petrol/diesel fires? About 80 times as common.
@@steveknight878 For the simple fact there are more petrol/diesel cars around the world. When you look at percentages, the story changes a lot. EVs are more dangerous and less reliable than ICE cars which is why insurance is so high for EVs and why many EVs are being banned from underground parking structures. I have a friend going into firefighting and the special training and effort that goes into fighting an EV fire is several factors more dangerous and difficult than putting out an ICE fire plus lithium batteries are highly explosive when coming into contact with salt water which makes them dangerous in floods as well as winters when a lot of salt is used to melt ice. Current lithium ion batteries are very dangerous and bad for the environment and we still do not have a viable way to recycle them. These batteries become more unstable over time. It is not a matter of if but when which is a major factor why used EVs depreciate so much more than ICE vehicles.
The challenge with fires in EV’s is they are incredibly difficult to put out!
@@grantlingley1385 Yes, finally - something that is true. They are difficult to put out - though there are ways of doing so that are becoming available. Better than that, new battery technologies are coming along which do not catch fire. At all. We haven't managed to do that with petrol or Diesel in all these years that they have been catching fire.
I have bought EV 5 years back , I am not regretting it yet. Maybe in 5 more years I might
Maybe 10 - 15 yr from now
MR EV Shills detected 😂😂😂
@@nyxline Clueless.
One simple fact for all the EV naysayers (including myself to an extent), is that the EV industry is SO new when compared to the ICE industry. What do we all know about ANY new industry? It takes TIME to evolve. Reflect on the PC industry over the last 40 years. I remember when the an IBM 486-based PC was the "latest and greatest". It even had ... get THIS ... HALF a MEG of memory !!!!!!!! Compare that tech to now.
Excellent intelligent observation! (just my opinion)
We're still waiting for old batteries to fail that's a good sign
EV's Shill detected 😂😂😂
@@nyxline Ill informed petrol head identified.
I'm not sure why anyone would want to purchase an EV after watching this video.
That's the thing, many have.not seen the video !
All those that realise that this video is a pile of rubbish.
@@steveknight878most of the comments from the video are pretty simple stuff and sadly reflect the infancy of the EV market. Maybe it will get better but still very significant issues to be dealt with.
That's if you actually believe this video
@@grantlingley1385 But just like horses being replaced by cars, ICE will be replaced by EVs ..... for almost all city folk and then eventually just a few horse riders and ICE cars will be left.
I haven’t experienced any of the issues cited. I own two EVs, BMW i4xdrive and the new Equinox RS. Love both cars. No more gas stations, oil changes and the brakes last forever with regenerative braking. I plug each ev in once a week from my house.
Nice!
You should be fine as long as you don't venture far from home
@@fenkliew7550 And that is the main problem.I have an EV.
If you have a Tesla, it's not a problem.
@@fenkliew7550 You'll need a horse then, since you don't need a petrol station to fill up from. Oh and 83% of people live in urban areas so not so much of a problem for most if they can charge from home.
Whenever i write "i wouldn't have one for free" i always get the thumbs down. No one ever gave me a good positive reason to buy one of these fashion accessories. I still say i wouldn't have on given to me for free.
I see the charging points down the road, but never a car on them. Gas pumps always have cars on them.
It's called "progress". You'll realise one day. Take your time.
No soup for you, you are forbidden to buy an e v
@@evp3891 I dont have that amount of time
@@rp9674 I get a free car every 3 years and refuse that electric junk
... that you know nothing about
I have a 2023 Hyundai Ioniq 5 AWD SEL that I bought new a little over a year ago. It now has 10000 miles on it. I couldn't be happier and will never go back. My wife just traded her Prius Prime PHEV in for a 2024 Hyundai Ioniq 6 after seeing how great my car has been and she is totally happy as well. It takes a little planning but I wouldn't hesitate to take either across the US on a trip. Neither car has had any issues. If anyone is worried about resale values then simply lease the car and decide what to do at the end of the lease.
Wes most people just like to get in their vehicles and drive without planning
@@joejoe7212 I get it. It's not for everyone. 🙂
@@joejoe7212 If you live in urban areas and 85% of people do you've no need to plan for the vast majority of trips. My mini (poor range by the way) has still done 47,000 miles and I've used public chargers perhaps 10 times. So if you live in the suburbs it's fine. Long distance maybe wait until the range suits your needs. Tech is advancing fast and prices are coming down too.
i like that EV owners never complained about their vehicles.
The cars are great easy to drive and clean.It is the charging infrastructure what let's it down big time.
99% of Uber drivers ditching Tesla For Toyota and Honda's 😂😂 Hertz getting rid of 50,000 EV's 🔥🔥🚒 No Complaints MR EV Shills 😂
@@nyxline Where do you get these "made up" facts from? Your own imagination.
I'm not interested in an ev but people I know seem happy with them. But maybe they have to say that like they love being married or having kids.
Just an example of conformational bias.
Did a 4200 mile road trip in a Tesla MY, no range anxiety. I love my EV.
In Canada. The fire and emergency responders are not allowed to do an extraction of a person trapped in a crashed electric vehicle. They have to stay back at least 30 feet from the vehicle. If you have a hybrid vehicle you can peel the decals off and disguise it as a gas vehicle providing it is available in both formats !!!
Not only do they cost more to insurance. Insurance's companies see it as a reason to pick my pocket and yours.
My impala cost $375 to insure for 6 months (250/250/1 million), same coverage on my Bolt 2 years later is $390. An extra $3/mo isnt a concern...
YES, except I've owned EVs almost 6 years the insurance is comparable, like anything else if someone tries to gouge, shop around
A battery could easily last 500,000 miles (as claimed) but by the time it gets there it'll be worn out and only give you half the range when new.
The only person I know with a BEV is getting rid of it after 3 years and going back to ICE.
I have two ICEs, 40+ and 20+ years old, still banging out 400 mile trips.
All that on one tankful of petrol (gas if you're American) not even the far more frugal diesel fuel.
After driving ICE for 40 years I now drive a Tesla. Best car i've ever owned. If it was a shit car I'd be the first to get rid of it. I don't keep cars because I can't afford to change them. I keep them because I like them.
Don't buy until you can get a million miles for $10,000, outrageous
I am on my third electric vehicle. No problem with my Nissan Leafs.
Third one, huh? In how many years, and what did you pay for them? I just bought a 22-year-old Honda Accord LX, this past January, for $2,000--still running fine! I wonder how many EV's you will go through, in 22 years--and how much MORE--it will cost YOU?!? I wonder...
Gosh didn’t you learn from the first two. One of the worst vehicles Nissan ever made.
@@michaeltotten7508 maybe he's leasing 'm and maybe he just earns good money ? After my PHEV which I bought couple of years ago I now have a full EV. Best car I have ever owned. And I have owned quite a few brand new cars including a brand new Mercedes ($100K which after 3 years I was lucky to get $50K for - how's that for a great investment?)... And why the heck you'd buy a 22-year old Honda is beyond me. Still running fine? Yeah, how much would have been spent on that car over 22 years replacing parts? If you gonna claim that most parts are still original i will find that very hard to believe ...
Legitimate issues versus Real World experience. I know someone who's been driving his Leaf over 10 years turn my batteries somewhat degraded but it's still going
I own EVs, Excellent Versions of ICEs, Internal Combustion Engine cars. A 2008 Sienna, a 2007 Z4 stick, a 2008 G37 sport stick, and an amazing 2014 BMW X3 MC and since I drive all four, they are low mileage that have kept the value since I bought them used.
Hybrid is a good option, you can have the best of both.
Plug-in hybrid, much better, maybe that's what you meant
and the worst plus extra complexity from a PHEV owner , will go BEV next time
I suppose that I should not be surprised at the number of falsehoods perpetrated in this video. Too many to go through here.
The only "falsehood" here, Steve--is creating EV technology, in the first place!
@@michaeltotten7508 Well, that is obviously your opinion, but it is not based on facts.
@@steveknight878oh yeah, Steve? The "facts" are that MY gas car, that I bought for $2,000, 6 months ago, is 22 years old--and still running fine--and nobody who owned it ever worried about range anxiety, or burned up in a battery fire, or had to cough up 30 grand for a new battery, etc, etc, etc--and it is still running fine, with original engine and transmission--and 215,000 miles on it! Ha ha ha ha ha! EV's are a piece-of-sh*t idea, for rich people, who listen to environmental propaganda, and worthless socialist politicians, and paid-off media...so, if you still think EV'S are such a great idea--why don't you buy ten of them, in the next 22 years--and then bankrupt yourself, doing so, in the process (if you don't burn up in one of them, first, that is)?
@@michaeltotten7508 Good grief! You really have got it bad, haven't you? Well, I wish you luck with your car and hope that it continues to work for you. The odds are against, but that doesn't mean that it won't work out for you. But I should point out that single instances do not tell you anything about the overall picture.
The EV owner Advantage is we own EVS so we actually know about them and have owned gas vehicles so we know about them too
You couldn't give me a new golf buggy the most useless vehicle
You responding to a different video Maybe
Why won't I ever buy an EV? Because I refuse to buy a disposable car.
you are right, basically, you are driving a cell phone on wheels.
How do you define disposable?
@@Jonas-gl9ke Easy: When the battery needs replacing, and that will cost $30K, but the car is only worth $15K. People walk-away from their EV in this scenario.
Actually, how the hell do you dispose of these huge, toxic batteries?
@@thumperjdm How often do you believe EV batteries need to be replaced? From what source did you get $30K for a replacement EV battery?
When the battery fails in your EV.. you can buy a couple of horses preferably Clydesdales or a couple of big bullocks to tow it around.. and then you can think about moving into a cave.. enjoy the future..😆..
That’s the best comment I’ve read for a long time. So true. 😂
IF YOU'VE GOT BIG BULLOCKS YOU DRIVE A VOLVO 240 ESTATE.
Livestock fetish?
I'm waiting for my 'jetson backpack' to fly me over all road jams. Ok, ok, I do risk my life 500% over land travel. Maybe a ' bubbled type flyer'. Lol!
Great video! No one could have predicted the outcome. With today's technology, we should be able to handle any issues that arise. My main concern has always been the cost of replacing the entire battery after it ages. NIO seems like a good option because the battery can be replaced often, which means there shouldn't be a significant problem with high maintenance costs in this respect.
The only thing I regret is not buying my Tesla earlier.
When I bought my 2nd EV, a Chevy Bolt, the salesperson commented that most of his EV customers at that time knew much more about the car than he did. As the first layer of EV buyers gave way to those who had not done their homework and expected an EV to be "just another car...but with a battery instead of a gas tank" these are the customers who are disillusioned because they didn't "process" what they were getting into before they plunked down the cash. Personally, on my 4th EV (and probably final since I'm 80) I am totally satisfied and will never go back to the ICE age. I have never been to a service facility for any of my 4 EV's...they just work. Traveling works just fine (provided the infrastructure is in place...and working) because the range pretty well matches my range between moments of bladder chatter. By the time I buy a coke and bag of nuts the car is ready for the next leg. I have NEVER waited for my car to be charged (aka fueled)...there are other things to do. 95% of the time it tops up to a full tank while I am asleep. So what's not to like? Quiet, smooth, dependable, and wonderful. (Currently have a Genesis GV60...have never owned a Tesla...I'm a mechanical engineer)
EVs were never going to fully replace fossil fuelled cars for all of the reasons in this video, what I said a few years ago is exactly what is happening now. The range was the main worry but that would become even worse when the battery was about three years old, the next worry was the time that it takes to charge, fine if you can charge at home and use the car just for local trips but for a longish drive, you would find that the journey would take longer and it would have been worse if there were more EVs on the road, charging no matter how fast would still have cars queueing to use the charger and each person with the very least, twenty minutes for a moderate charge, meanwhile the queue would get longer. The way forward is synthetic fuel may well be the way forward and that is what they should have been concentrating on instead of electric. Synthetic fuel is more complicated to produce but it can replace petrol and diesel with very little change to the engine, of course it will be a lot more expensive than petrol until we have the amount produced, we are years behind this but that is just about the only answer, synthetic fuel can be filled from the same petrol stations that we now have and it would take the same time as getting petrol.
@honestchris7472 Synthetic fuel is one permanent replacement, the next permanent replacement for electric cars is biofuels. Like synthetic fuel, biofuels are specifically designed to work in internal combustion engines [gas, and diesel] without costly modifications.
Range is an issue but will be overcome with increase battery tech ranges, cheaper batteries and better infrastructure. However as a society if you do not invest in EVs the American car market will fall behind everyone else. Be careful you don't back the wrong tech.
@@gerryparker7699 It will be years before the range is increased enough to make it viable to make long journeys and the charging necessary for long journeys will cost nearly as much as fossil fuels, it is cheap when you can charge at home but that is not possible on long trips, the other main draw back is that we are years away from having enough charging points on the road and if electric cars become very popular, there would be many more on the road to want a charge, this would mean queuing to use the charger. I would have thought hydrogen would be a better option. I think that electric cars will be great but just for local use when you can use it for a few miles during the day and then charge at night ready for the next day. I will stick to fossil fuels for now.
Keep living in lala land as your favorite ICE companies reap what they sow and go under. All those overpriced gas cars sitting in lots you people won't buy, they aren't there by accident. I'd like to see what excuses you people make to hold on to some pride.
Engineer here. I"m all in favor of green technology but I must say, today's electric vehicles (EVs) are nowhere near ready to replace internal combustion engine (ICE) vehicles. The available EVs including Teslas, are really nothing more than expensive toys for the ultra rich. They are not practical except in very specific circumstances that avoid their limitations. I've always thought that flex fuel, hybrid vehicles are the best way right now to get carbon emissions down. Are EVs the future? Only if new energy storage technologies are invented that make them as usable as ICE vehicles. The best we have right now are lithium batteries and these have too many limitations. A person below said "4 minutes at a gas station and my truck gets 400 miles" and that expresses the problem perfectly! A 80kWh battery pack cannot be recharged in minutes with any known battery chemistry! xx hours are required.
Another issue that rarely gets mentioned is that many ICE engines can go 70k - 100k miles without major engine work being needed. Despite what Honda, Toyota and Telsa might say, I don't believe one will get 70k, let alone the 100k figure Honda touts on its hybrids, out of a battery pack before it fails. These batteries only last for a certain number of discharge/recharge cycles, true for ALL rechargeable. When these go bad, the whole pack must be replaced. On EVs, we're talking a price similar to purchasing a rebuilt ICE engine, a few thousand. Is that affordable for the general public? I owned a Honda Civic Hybrid and the battery pack started going bad at 35K (warranty would not cover it due to car age with low miles, dealer wanted 4K to install a refurbished pack of used batteries) so I traded it for an ICE vehicle instead. Live and learn.
Some will regret just like everything people buy ever. No product will ever be 100 % satisfied. I have two teslas and the change I go back to ICE is 0%. I save time and money from evading up, oil changes, spark plug, smog checks, break pads. I could save days from not having gas to do that.
The average life span of an EV battery is definition dependent on how much charge that battery can attain and hold over time. And Not all EV batteries are created equal. Don't go on "estimated" life span. Fast charging degrades the EV battery quicker. And even a minor collision can injure the EV battery. Finding out if your EV battery is safe to run, is nearly impossible to figure out. The cost to replace a EV Battery Is significant.
We bought an electric vehicle last year, a nice little chevy. We've been Overjoyed with it and haven't had a bit of trouble with it! The dealer even gave us a home charger so we rarely have to purchase energy on the road! I wouldn't go back to a piston engine if you paid me!! #GoElectric
Wow, the first time the words "nice little Chevy" have been used in the same sentence in many, many years. Is that Chevy one of those Barra recommends parking away from any house or garage to avoid a potential catastrophic fire?
@@jerrylundegaard2592there was like 12 of them that started on fire, and they have already warranty replaced all the batteries in the affected years
@@mattcintosh2 GM recalled 141,000 and confirmed 16 Bolts erupted in flames. The NHTSA and GM urged owners of Bolts to park their vehicles outside and away from homes and other structures due to the risk of fires. Parking garages put up signs banning Bolts.
A Bolt might be something you would choose. For, me I value my family and my properly to dearly to risk exposing them to a Bolt.
Hard to imagine anyone trusting GM.
@@jerrylundegaard2592its been over 3 years since a Bolt fire, and Zero in the ones with the replaced batteries. I wouldnt have trusted one with the original batteries, but am confident with my Feb 2022 battery.
Well Johnny, I hope you are happy with your little EV purchase...but, I wonder how much you paid for it? I bought a 2002 Honda Acoord LX, 6 months ago, for $2,000--and am quite happy with it, also. I did have to fix it up, a little bit (even though it was running OK, when I got it)--but nothing like a $30,000 EV battery replacement. So far, I've spent $2,000 to buy it, $1,660 for insurance, for 1 year (or about $130 a month), $140 in sales tax, another $100 or so for registration and new title fees, and about $3,500 or so in maintenance (for things like new tires and new struts, to get it running the way I want it to run), plus about $250 or $300 in 6 months, for gasoline--for a total of about $7,000, or so, including everything. But it works fine, for my purposes, as a (mostly) retired senior citizen, and most of those costs will be non-recurring, in the near future (obviously, I'll only pay once, to buy it, and my insurance is now paid up through next January, and my tires should last me a few years, and the struts even longer, etc.) But, I'd be willing to bet, that you paid a lot more than $7,000, for you little luxury toy, and even more when your insurance, sales tax, dmv fees, maintenance, and recharging costs are added on. Maybe you gotta break, with a govt subsidy, but as those are disappearing, sales plummet accordingly. And, will yours still be working fine, with original trans & engine, in 22 years, like mine is?
I would love to see your word that refers “lack” and “many” terms uses in this videos has it statistical number (perhaps a link references would be great), so then it would help to support this video titles such number of success story and fails story can be measured fairly, yet running cost comparison fossil fuel vs electricity than can also be saved for a great maintenance after warranty i.e. buying a battery replacement. 😅
So they want a predominantly EV society, but a Full UK driving licence is still manual only!?! 🚫
Beyond all the charging inconvenience I thought id at least enjoy the handling, but I was wrong. Suspension was terrible, not sure if its the excessive weight on a small car. Instant torque is the last thing you want navigating a tight parking spot or pulling out on wet pavement, regen braking feels like the emergency brake is always stuck on.. not for me.
There is more than one model and more than one brand
That sounds like driving a heavy golf cart.😅😅😅😅😅😅
It's really not that hard, I've been driving EVs for 6 years, but I'm a genius
My concerns are that the eight year battery warranty is too short and that software is only covered during the factory warranty period.
Even if the battery is intact, what if software bricks the car, will we owners have to fork $$ because an unnecessary or untested OTA update was pushed to the vehicle?
My Honda Accord has had only one firmware update within a year of production . I don't think the CT200h I bought from a friend has had any software update even if it's a hybrid.
What if what if
@@rp9674 I know right? I have an 8 year old Model S. That's 8 years driving 120 miles to a gallon equivalent, waking up to a full charge, no oil changes, no brake changes no tune ups on a car that drives like the first day it rolled out the dealer lot. Let's weigh that against 8 years of failed "what ifs".
I had gas cars for decades, too many headache$
We are seeing local Ionic Q5 Owners having to replace their Batteries after running over some road debris….even the dealer thought it was not significant damage….alas the battery could not be repaired. Cost to replace…$56 K. Both cars were written off by insurance! Apparently there are more but those were the two that hit the news locally.
And then the car comes for the children and pets while you're sleeping?
With regard to the depreciation issue of EVs : I naively bought a used BMW i3 (which unfortunately had a catastrophically low range), and when I tried to trade it in, nobody was interested in it except BMW, from whom I nevertheless still lost 22% of its value in just 6 months. I am a very happy diesel driver again (BMW216d Active Tourer) with a range of ca 1300km.. 🚗💨👍
Having said that, I will be looking at Nissan’s e-Power vehicles when I decide to part ways with my Active Tourer : it’s gives you the EV driving experience without all the hassle of EV cars.. (high prices, range anxiety, availability of charging facilities, charging cards, software, depreciation..).
We have a 2015 I3 rex, doing great, much better than I expected from a BMW
@@rp9674 I take it that just use your i3 locally, because driving to a destination eg 200 km/miles away is a nightmare, especially in the winter..🚗⚡️😱
EV's should be banned.
They are.
That's deep
Worst Haiku I've seen all day
Like any new technology, batteries will improve, charging times will get faster, and parts will be more plentiful. Right now, the charging network and cost of repairs are out of reach for most Americans. I did own a Volt, and I miss the torque and quietness of the vehicle. Let’s see what happens in the next 5 to 10 years?
5 years down the line a scrap car unless you fit another expensive battery, no wonder people are going back to ICE vehicles!
Battery warranties are for EIGHT years, so how do you reach that conclusion?
Back to the disinformation lab
It is not surprising that there are negative opinions because it is still new and the infrastructure has not been properly formed.... but in the future it will definitely be better because it is cheaper and environmentally friendly.
Reliability discussion an interesting point. Many of the modern engines suffer more from electronic issues than mechanical failures. Or from mechanical issues resulting from electronics. And of course the concept of disabling half an engine from firing in cruise mode. A traditional V8 without tech will run for many more years with clean ops far longer than a turbo 4-banger.
No.1 should be..the health and safety aspects of these shyt , scam , things.
You are a health and safety problem. Your effing ICE car spewing pollution and noise that is KILLING people
what - you mean all the health benefits?
@steveknight878 yeah, lot of health benefits from breathing toxic gases, spewing out of an EV battery, during thermal runaway, for sure! Meanwhile, burn more fossil fuels, to charge all of these EV's, too...
@@michaeltotten7508 Very few EV fires, as opposed to the much more common ICE fires - that also spew out toxic gases, not counting the toxic gasses that they spew out even when working normally. As for burning fossil fuels to charge the EVs - that depends upon where you are. In some parts of the world (Europe, UK) most (sometimes all) electricity is produced by wind, solar, hydro or nuclear, not fossil fuels. Maybe not so good in USA, I guess. Then there are all the pollutants produced in making the fossil fuels.
@@michaeltotten7508 yeah, your ICE vehicle is really good for the environment, too, isn't it?
People getting trapped inside vehicles when the battery fails.
Yeah, that's because they don't read the instruction manual.
"Oh THATS what was in that large ring binder we chucked out". 😳
Yeah, the work around to enter from outside a Tesla when the 12v fails is several steps. You’ll remember that in an emergency, right ?
The fireman just smashed a window in, they haven’t read the manual either, and weren’t going to take the time to google it.
I like an external door handle, simple, obvious, dependable, and everyone knows how to use it. My life is worth more than a cool looking style.
It happens whenever any electric vehicle starts going haywire for a number of reasons.
ANY number of reasons such as lithium battery failure, malfunction, driving it for long range of miles, overheating (even in warm weather,when the weather isn't too hot or cold.) Too wet. Too dry. Using it for test runs.
Tesla is a good electric vehicle that likes to have *SO* many problems, concerning drivers dealing with unwanted, unexpected issues...
When novice or expert car drivers at least expect it.
Doesn't matter if you read, know,and are familiar with any instruction manual.
I know I wouldn't ever hardly get too excited over electric vehicles that have nothing but inconveniences.
It's more than just frustrating.
Irritating. Or just plain annoying.
It's madness mayhem for ANY and ALL EV's.
To me, it's just not worth fussing over.
And making a big ado over nothing.
Electric vehicle fanboys and fangirls can say whatever they want.
Doesn't mean much if the facts don't add up.
And are nothing but hype.
Because if any electric vehicle breaks down and stops working; it's time to break out the Hammerdex.
Available on TH-cam. Or sometimes called the breaker. Breeker. Whatever it's called.
It's simply a device that can break down the laminated window or windows of any electric vehicle,to get out of there.
If ANY electric vehicle stops working,you better have a cell phone with you.
AND something that can break out the window.
And cut the seat belt if *that* ever happens,also.
It CAN happen ; and often does if something like that does happen.
It's best to have it on you. Especially if you do get into an accident,and something like THAT ever happens,too.
So.......be prepared.
Another pile of bollocks
He reported that an F-150 Lightning lost a lot of range when towing a 7000 pound trailer. Guess what. My F-150 (3.5 liter turbo V-6) drops from 22 mpg to 8.5 mpg when towing my 7000 pound travel trailer -- close to the same proportion of range loss. However, it is less of a problem due to its 36 gallon fuel tank. The truck is only used about 4000 miles a year, mostly for towing and hauling -- RV, boat, horse trailer, and farm work. It still sees a lot of gas stations at $3.50 per gallon. In contrast, my 2021 Mach-E, which has been flawless sees 12,000 mile per year of typical use into town and back with only a few long road trip each year. On Sundays I take 30 seconds to plug it in and another 30 seconds to unplug it Monday mornings and it is powered for the entire week unless I do a long trip. Cost of electricity for it amounts to less than 2 cents per mile since I charge it from the solar array on my roof using surplus electricity for which the electric company would pay me only 5.6 cents per kWH.
We have driven over 32000Km in our 2023 VW ID.4, including four road trips. We have not had any problems. We love the vehicle. OK, we have home charging which is a big advantage. It is important to accept that this is a new technology and will take time to smooth out all the bugs. We would not tow anything with this car. The charging infrastructure still has a way to go. We don’t have any regrets over our EV purchase.
Idk the first dude i know who got an ev had already had 3 major issues in 2 and a half years and each time it sat a month on average in the garage waiting for parts
EV ownership comes with a learning curve, but models like the Toyota bZ4X address common concerns with reliable performance, efficient charging, and advanced safety features. It’s all about choosing the right EV for your needs! 🚗⚡🌍
Source: Dailey Mail, consumer reporting, 25 July 2024. In America for the first time, the average resale value of an EV is Less then the average resale value of a gas powered car. Ford has lost 2.5 Billion dollars in its EV division , just in the first half of 2024. Ford shares are down . Tesla sales have plunged this year.
1 mil EVs sold 2022, 1.6 I'm 2023, 1st half 2024 sales increased
Tesla Layoffs Whole Factories 30,000 employees
We went back to Gas,and now were Happy again
Cheap oil makes world peace ---
Cheap Coal makes cheap AC ---
I don’t regret buying my EV. Cost me 2p a mile to run and after 4 years the battery has only lost 5% of its original range. But hey, go on believing all the EV misinformation garbage while I enjoy my cheap, carefree motoring.
They forget we've all own gassers previously
I hear people say ICE vehicle catch on fire more than EVs. Well, there are more ICE (internal combustion vehicles) on the road than EVs. When you look at percentages, the story changes a lot. EVs are more dangerous and less reliable than ICE cars which is why insurance is so high for EVs and why many EVs are being banned from underground parking structures.
I have a friend going into firefighting and the special training and effort that goes into fighting an EV fire is several factors more dangerous and difficult than putting out an ICE fire plus lithium batteries are highly explosive when coming into contact with salt water which makes them dangerous in floods as well as winters when a lot of salt is used to melt ice. Current lithium ion batteries are very dangerous and bad for the environment and we still do not have a viable way to recycle them. These batteries become more unstable over time. It is not a matter of if they will have catastrophic failure but when, which is a major factor why used EVs depreciate so much more than ICE vehicles.
I have a non-EV, non-hybrid Toyota. I have had it for 5 years. My car looks like new and runs better than new. Toyota even offered to buy it back from me for good money. I need my car so I said no but that would not happen if it was an EV. I plan on keeping this car long after I am done with my payments and I have just 3 months left. EVs are not good even in a financial sense especially if you plan on owning things. If you are the type of person who likes to own nothing and be happy then EVs are perfect for you.
Euhm, petrol cars explode... don't you worry about that? Also the numbers are already according to percentages. ICE cars catch on fire more often but it's not reported in the news, since it's so common... A lot of news reports also falsely claim EV's caught on fire while it's actually a hybrid.
No, far more ice Vehicles Catch Fire by percentage, a quick search could have saved you three paragraphs
@@rp9674 No worries. I have owned ICE vehicles for over 34 years and I have been around ICE vehicles all my life since my parents owned ICE vehicles and for the 1/2 century I have been around them we have NEVER had an ICE vehicle catch on fire. I park my 2 ICE vehicles in my garage, a Honda and a Toyota, and I have zero worries about them catching on fire and burning down my house.
Doesn't change statistics, or change the truth
@@rp9674 It does when the statistics are skewed for a a certain outcome as in the book "How To Lie With Statistics" by Darrell Huff & Irving Geis with an endorsement by Bill Gates. Never underestimate what you have seen and experienced with your own eyes. Also, feel free to look up the book if you never heard of it because many people are putting the strategies in that book in play today.
It would have been much smarter to go to plug in hybrids not just try to switch to straight electric. The average person would be fine with 100 miles of range with a plug in hybrid that’s more than enough for everyone’s daily needs so they only charge at home but if they need to go out of town on the weekend or get stuck in a snowstorm the gasoline engine starts up and takes over. Had this been the real push it would have been a much easier transition in every way. People would feel much better about buying the vehicle because they aren’t limited, it would put less strain on the electric grids because they can’t supply enough power yet and the technology for ev’s has time to get better.
I live in upstate ny and I always talk about this situation. So i90 is the major thruway running east to west of the state. Buffalo gets some insane snow and there have been times where there are multiple car pileups in snow storms on i90 causing vehicles to be stuck for hours or even days. I remember one time back in the late 2000’s there were vehicles stuck for 2 days something like 5 miles of cars. Now just imagine if there were electric vehicles there it would have been a massive problem nobody would have heat, emergency services couldn’t help everyone and getting miles of dead electric cars moved would be impossible they would need to be charged so some type of big trucks with charging stations would need to be built.
Utter rubbish on here , move on people
I leased my Tesla model 3 with 358 miles of range in December 2022. It is charged at my home in San Francisco. Since I have solar panels there is NO cost to charge the car. Typically, the car travels 4 miles per kwh of charge (the national average cost of 1 kwh is $0.17). The only problem so far has been a flat tire and that was fixed by Tesla service that I called on my iphone app. I never had a software problem. My main disappointment has been that the self-driving feature is really a fancy cruise control. I am too timid to use the full self-driving mode on the Bay Area roads. I do not regret buying my EV car. I believe that cheaper EV cars (~$25K) are coming in a couple years and will replace ICE cars.
Great, so get back to us in a few years when we can afford them.
Full self-driving or autonomous is going to give Mobility to a lot of people that have been dependent, also save a lot of lives, but I'm uncomfortable with the in-between stage where you have to be ready for the one out of a million exception
I am assuming you're not confusing autopilot with FSD
An EV makes some sense for a daily driver, but not for $60K or more. For many the economics of an EV make little sense.
That's outrageous, I'm not buying a gas car because a Lamborghini Veneno costs 4.5 million
As if ANY of this information is new. Worst form of powering vehicles known. Do these people think the power just magically appears.
I am so happy with my ev that my wife decided to buy one last year as well.
Your evidence is based in what reality.
I have been driving EV's for 7 years and will never be going back to an ICE car ever
There are a lot of bad EV's out there built by Legacy Car Companies, that thought it would be easy to take out the ICE engine and replace with an electric motor and take out the fuel tank and replace with a battery and they would have an EV but they failed badly, they never realised theres a lot of software needed in a EV of which they have no idea how to make or implement.
People but a brand because they have always bought that brand and do no research expecting the product to be right, only dedicated EV car companies have got it right
My electric mini is the best car i have ever owned. Certainly no remorse about buying and owning it. What fun
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I am NOT OPEC, but I AM a concerned citizen--and brilliant electrical engineer!!! EV technology is a PIECE-OF-SH!T idea!!!!! Brought to us by leftwing, weed-smoking, totally impractical environmental socialists!!! There are SO MANY things WRONG with this technology--I don't know WHERE to begin!!! Perhaps you don't mind, "coughing up" $50,000 every 8 years or so, for an EV--but I just bought (this past January) a gasoline-burning 2002 Honda Accord LX--for $2,000--for this 22-year-old vehicle--still working fine! Meanwhile, in 22 years of typical EV ownership, YOU will have "coughed up" $150,000, or more (if you don't get into any accidents, that is!) This battery technology is GREAT, for throwaway devices like smartphones or laptops, thrown away after a few years and replaced--but it is a very bad idea--for putting such fragile, easily broken technology, in heavy vehicles travelling long distances at high speeds in MUCH HARSHER ENVIRONMENTS, and requiring THOUSANDS OF TIMES MORE ENERGY, too! Too easily broken, too costly to replace, too dangerous when failed (in thermal runaway)--and way too inconvenient, and anxiety-filled. Many people still have trouble with, or don't even use, smartphones or computers (of any kind!)--imagine how they would STRUGGLE, with this technology incorporated into vehicle operation!!! What we need NOW, is to STOP this EV MADNESS--and tell all these environmentalists and socialist politicians to go F themselves!!!!!!!!
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Make sure you tell your insurance company that your charging at home, just saying.
I'm sure they will be puzzled why you thought that they might be interested.
Insurance companies May drop you like a Hot potato. They have all the stats and know the odds
Silly, based on nothing
A plug-in hybrid was the best option for me, best from both worlds when the car is new enough.
Better than gas
Lets not forget that the tires wear out between 8 to 10,000miles whereas a fairly inexpensive tire on an ICE car will last at least 40,000 miles
Not true. Not even close.
Thats because people with EVs tend to do more burnouts.
Nope, I own three evs, untrue.
MENTAL STRESS
I have never had a single issue with my Nissan Leaf in three years of oiwnership. I did call RAC on two occasions over the 12v battery. Both times it was discharged overnight because of my own left lights on error. No fault at all with the car.
Very few EV owners are going back
* no tune ups
* no oil changes
* no smog test
* almost no maintenance
* Less things to break
* no catalytic converter theft
* no engine heat ruining plastic & rubber parts
* Less noise to ruin the music
* Less vibration
* no idling engine to run AC or heat
* extreme acceleration (from 70 mph)
* Less stressful traffic jam driving
* No cat gutz in the fan belts 🤣
* no dirty oily engine bay
* no oil leaking on the driveway
SUM IT UP IN ONE WORD JUNK
Have you ever even seen an EV
Insurance companies don’t play about their money so no matter how many ev fans love their cars, gotta follow the money!
Let’s not forget the gov is subsidizing $7500 per car to purchase of these vehicles, and even with that, they are costly for many families. It’s a tax subsidy for the rich.
The market would naturally encourage innovation and transition to new technologies when fuel prices get high enough that electric or hydrogen powered vehicles become competitive
the United States subsidizes the fossil fuel industry with taxpayer dollars
Way too many kinks to work out before these things become the norm, maybe another 5-10 yrs before they become more efficient SMH
Not that much to figure out, I've been driving EVs for 6 years
This is reality. I recently purchased a SUBARU SOLTERRA and immediately regretted it. The full charge time from 0% to 100% is 2 DAYS and 5 HOURS. No rear wiper w/c was terrible during rainy days/\. Visibility was so low and rear window heater takes time . I dread the coming winter since I live in Illinois. Definitely not recommended. Dealer in Palatine will promise a lot of benefits but will not deliver all. A HuGE disappointment.
No matter the current negativity, EV is still the enevitable future..
Did not switch to EV but do intend to. Among all by acquantacnies and relatives, only one regretted buying an EV and this person simply wasn't informed with what she would deal with
For a while a hybrid with autonomous driving would be a better bet.
I'm on my 4th. No regrets at all.
EV price, insurance rates, weight, repair costs, tire wear, 3rd world labor, carbon intensive mining, are all greater than ICE.
I have a BYD Atto3 for 18 months. All the reasons given here havent happened to me. I suspect you are writing for theICE and petrol lobby.
18 months, huh? I just bought a 22-year-old car, for $2,000, 6 months ago, that is still running fine. How "fine" will your expensive, costly to operate, dangerous EV be running, 22 years from now, huh? And how much will it be worth then, huh? (...while most likely long since "thrown away" and rotting on an environmentally disastrous, non-recyclable JUNKPILE, that is!)
@@michaeltotten7508 keep smoking whatever you have been smoking
We've all owned gassers, that's not impressive, switched to EVS because we know
@rp9674 yeah, sure, I'll just pull $50,000, out of my @ss to run out and buy an EV, like one of my friends just did, in Nov '22, for an ordinary Tesla model 3, and he's already worried about it starting & running...of course, the $2,000 that I paid for my beat-up old Honda, is a little less than 50 grand, right? But, I have no prob if YOU want to THROW AWAY all YOUR money, on an EV; no prob at all--just don't ask ME to sell my left nut, in order to buy one--I don't even have that much credit, on all 7 of my credit cards combined! But I have no prob with YOU going bankrupt, to own one--for sure! Still like my "comedy", huh? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha...
(That was supposed to be a comma not comedy)
I'm a rich Coastal Elite so it's different for me, my first EV was $8,000 in 2018, the most I've ever spent on a car for myself, more than made up for it in savings on gas and maintenance. I've recently got extra fancy and got a new Chevy Bolt for $20,500 after rebates.