Countersteering Explained In Seconds - Motorcycle 101
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Haha thanks for mentioning turning the bar into the opposite direction. My instructor was telling me to move the handlebar like that. Instead of pushing on the bar
I hate how they explain it. At high speeds you are never turning the handlebars rather you are pushing one side
@@Player-pj9ktare you pushing forward or down cause every video I see I can’t wrap my head around it and it looks like down
@DannyBashy I'm pushing down on the handlebars. If u ride a bike you'll know how to ride a motorcycle don't overthink it
@@Player-pj9kt And by pushing you make a short turn. The duration is very short at high speeds, but it is there. That is the reason why you get a desired lean.
@@DannyBashy You push forward, but the bike responds leaning and you may see that as a down push.
Simple explanation
On low speed if you want to the right pull the right
On high speed if you want to the right push the right
Actually an amazing explanation tbh
If you want to go right, you push the right handle or pull the left, regardless of speed. You always countersteer any two-wheeler being it a child's first bike or a motorbike.
@@kjellg6532 sub 15 mph if you push you’re gonna go in the wrong direction. Counter steering requires momentum.
@@SCP-2402 I can not see that. From my perspective you countersteer any 2-wheeled vehicle from the moment the wheels stars rolling. There is no other way to steer.
@@SCP-2402 Sorry, but a do not agree. To make a right hand turn on a two wheeled vehicle, you for a split second turn left. Immediately you get a lean to the right. You then turn your front wheel into that turn. To get out of the turn, you turn right even harder and the bicycle/motorbike will stand up. You have been countersteering at any speed from the moment you first rode a bicycle. The only way to steer a bike, at any speed.
I’m a future biker doing heavy research before even purchasing; and I didn’t realize that this was counter steering. I thought this and turning the handle bars were two different things but I can now visualize and understand better than you’re not leaning the bike to the left or right, you’re pushing the handlebar in a way that is similar to turning it when not counter steering. Thanks!!
Check out MotoJitzu. He’s an amazing instructor on TH-cam.
Good on you for doing research. But to drive you’ll need to build intuition. That can only be done by driving. Have a good one
@@vikingthedudemy computational intelligence is capable of simulating exact riding conditions in any situation, from the slightest fluctuation of the clutch’ engagement with the transmission to the gnarliest pothole on an unmaintained british Road, the infinity behind my eyes can grasp all of this from the comfort of my bed.
praise be to Allah
It's like riding a regular bicycle but with theories and clutch. Don't overthink Turning its pretty intuitive once you get in the motorcycke
@@maalikserebryakov LOL!!!
Seeing you do this I realize I do it all the time without thinking. Yet, hearing the term had me thinking this was some new found way to ride.
same here… to be honest anyone driving on 2 wheels should understand this with common sense, while this „steer into the opposite direction“ tip is just messing with your head, same with the term countersteering itself.
There is only one thing i would call countersteering, and thats if a car is going sideways and you countersteer.
On bikes the only thing i could call „countersteer“ would be lets say if your rears lose grip and you „drift“ a bank sideways, feels awesome on a dirtbike if you can handle it.
@@harrison00xXx Now, what do you do to get your bike into a right hand lean for a right hand turn? For a split second you steer to the left. You steer counter to where you wat to go. Countersteering explains the physics, push steering explains how to do it. ( You can as well grip the handlebar with both hands and push/pull to get the same short turn to the “wrong” side.
@@kjellg6532 yet i dont call it really countersteer, if you lose grip with your back and drift your bike, i would allow to call it like that
@@kjellg6532
Do you actually ride a motorcycle?
Bravo. Well explained.
This is the best, because it’s not confusing. When doing it, it feels naturally and makes sense. But when thinking about it it can become confusing.
why? to go right, i need to angle the bike to the right… which means if i give a little steering to the left, the bike itself leans to the right direction i wanna go.
Pretty logical and common sense, and something you have to learn and understand by just driving.
So counter steering is artificially leaning the bike at speed?
Nice and simple video 👌
Can u show how to revmatching on next video ?🙂
good idea! ill do that
@@BodieMoto thanks
I would have learned motorcycle in hours if i had that kind of empty roads man.... But it took me a month in india to be able to ride....
Yeah I'm pretty lucky with the amount of back roads I have, people really underrate the landscape in the US because we have tons of other issues lol
I always think of turning the bars in the opposite direction you want to go. That way you understand that you can also pull back to turn. pull back on the right side to go left and pulling back on the left side to go right. pulling back on the left side has the safe affect as pushing forward on the right side.
People who use tricycle: 💀
Thank got I thought the matrix was broken for a second there.
Many years ago a friend told me about this on day after I almost didn't make it through a turn I misjudged. I was skeptical, but he said "just try it, I bet you will never go back to the old way if you do." I tried it and he was right, I never went back. It quickly became second nature to me, not even having to think about it. It made controlling the bike so much easier, even in tight turns at higher speeds. I don't know if they teach this in motorcycle riding classes or not, but they should.
Push forward or push down on the handle bars?
Forward
This seriously made it ALL click for me! Thank you!
I remind myself by saying, push right go right
Please demonstrate exactly what happens over 60 mph, when one tries to turn steering to the right , then to the left.
My bike is a VMAX and it shoots the bike in opposite directions to the direction turned ??????
once you push forward on the right side for example, that slightly turns the wheel in left direction. As you make the turn do correct the tire direction or just leave the bike to do its thing.
I never knew this was a thing because I have been doing this unknowingly ever since I started riding
We all do it subconscious. Dont overthink it guys. Its a question of if you pull or push the handle. But we all do it.
Wow now that's a simple explanation some of the videos i watched are very complicated 😂
I learned how to do this on accident
My physics teacher said push the bar down not forward
Your physics teacher has never ridden a bike
I do both and it works...
Ya you push down on the side you want to turn
@@Player-pj9kt No, you don't.
i would consider it more pushing down than forward
I JUST made a comment on another channel that this is what that channel was missing speed with a POV of the rider.
This is what messed me up for the longest time. Back when I learned how to ride, this was just called steering...
Pushing is only half the story. If you're being aggressive in corners you should be using more pull and a little push.
Isn’t this common sense?
Ya it is if you've ridden a bicycle is the same thing
Best explaination on the topic I’ve heard so fst
@@HaDeZs1 got it
In Philippines they called it Banking. Fuck
They didn't use the word press but you did thanks
Your more so pushing down rather than forward
Wait… cant you just say keep the bars from turning more than you want them to? Is that really all countersteering is? Keeping your bike from turning itself too much? Why cant anyone just say it?
“Dont let your bars turn themselves more than you want”
Kinda, with some bikes you're not just keeping it from turning you're actually applying tons of pressure on the handle bar to turn it in the opposite direction of the turn. With sports bikes you use your lower body and core strength to push the bike over with your weight and then you don't need to apply nearly as pressure on the bars to initiate the lean
@@BodieMoto I take back what I said.. I went riding today, and just cruising without leaning, I pushed forward on one side-INSTANTLY turned, and a big fat light bulb came on 😂
It is pushing downwards not forward right?
So the reason you push forward on the right to turn right and left to go left is because the rear of the bike still wants to push forward as it still has forward momentum applied. When you push forward on the right bar, the rear of the bike still pushes forward with the handle bars very slightly turned left which causes the bike to lean to the right, hence right movement.
You’re essentially forcing the bike to become unbalanced in a controlled setting.
Same works when wanting to go left.
essentially just super simple physics
I have been riding bikes for 6 years
I was doing same thing unknowingly 😅
I just don't know what it's called
everyone is doing the same thing because it's the only way to do it
You have same gloves like me. 😎
This is basics, it’s like riding a bike. Maybe it’s just me but I just started riding a month ago and counter steering just came to me naturally.
@@ahrimjob2425 yeah everyone does it without thinking about it, it's a very natural thing. But that's why it's sometimes hard to understand, it's like teaching someone how to breathe haha
This way of explaining that phenomen is way way and i say way better than turnding handle bar to opposite direction that just messes with you pushin on each side is best way to say that want to lean left push left handle want to lean right push right handle
Depends on your speed. Gonna have to turn more, in the opposite direction you want to turn, at slower speeds. Still forces the lean the other way. Difference is you have to quickly correct the direction of the bars or you'll probably fall.
Push forwards or push down? I'm still confused
@@trayagullis2882
Always forward. Down achieves next to nothing.
can somebody explain why turning left to go left is countersteering? I mean you turn left the bike should be going to lean towards the right to give the name countersterring isnt it?
The name "counter steering" is just a really bad name, you aren't steering really. You're pushing the handlebar forward to lean the bike over. You don't even really need to push the handlebar either, when you lean over, the handlebars automatically counter steer themselves. You're not actually turning the handlebars, that's where it gets confusing lol
It's just important to understand for making quick corrections mid turn, you don't want to be leaning right then accidentally turn the bars right when trying to dodge something, understanding counter steering means you will just apple more pressure to the correct side of the handlebars to be able to make a correction
Does steering even work? My dad who used to ride told me if he wanted to go right he’d physically turn right like in a car, that doesnt sound very intuitive tho? Does steering work ive always couter steered
Your dad who used to ride, did he ever rode second time?
Just asking because bikes don't work like cars.
What bike is that?
dont understand, why would u do that if u can make the same thing but with the body... atleast i think u going to have more control if u lean using the body
You don't get a choice whether you do it or not every single time you turn at speed you are counter steering whether you decide to or not lol
Tuah
Precise
In you can steer a bicycle you’ll be alright👍
100%. Most people don't even need to think about this but it's good to know for emergency swerving
thankyouuu
Yoh mean push down on the handle bar and not push thru
No. you do not push down on the handlebar. You press forward on the grip.
You can do it instinctualy when youve riden an mtb
You do it instinctually no matter what, literally impossible to turn any bike over 15mph without counter steering, some people just don't realize what's happening under them
You lost your primary audience with h the word counter steering.
What
Easy peasy lemon squeezy
Thing is I’m scared that I’ll fall and damage my bike. I’m from India and started on a ninja 650. Took me 1 TH-cam video n Iearnt to ride in 2 hours. But counter steering is something I’m just too scared of.
Don't even think about it too much, just remember that you already know how to counter steer!!! You already do it every time you turn your bike at high speeds. It's hard to "understand" but I promise you already know how to do it, there is NO other way to turn at high speed. The bars automatically counter steer when you lean over, don't over think it too much!
You can't ride a bike without countersteering. It's physically impossible.
It is exactly what people are thinking, you turn the opposite direction...but just barely
Don't do this oscillation, left right left - at a certain frequency you'll lose control and crash.
Expert on an Amazon bike….nuce
I'm no expert 😅
Thanks man. I’m going for my beginner course tomorrow and this seemed counter intuitive to me.
I'm a new driver
How do you turn in low speed?
Exactly e same way, you countersteer the moment the wheels starts turning.
I always think of counter steering as steering the front wheel out from under the line of travel. If I'm traveling straight ahead and I turn the wheel to the left, The front wheel will go to the left of the line of travel, and the weight of the motorcycle will fall to the right, putting the bike into a lean. And the lean rightward is what causes the bike to steer in a circle to the right.
But buddy you're taking easy turns with that. Isn't counter steering for far more sharp corners?
No you countersteer on every single turn no matter what above 15 mph, you never actually turn the handle bars in the direction you're going unless you're taking off or coming to a stop. Most people don't even realize they are counter steering, you might be thinking about using your weight to counter the bike for sharp turns, which is a valid technique but that's a different thing with a similar name
@@BodieMoto yes actually I just reliased it
@@BodieMoto I really can't understand counter steering. I have watched many videos but everytime I recall what I do on turns, I push the handlebar into the direction I'm going.
@@nope9988 if you don't understand it, you're overthinking it.
@@nope9988 same just seems weird all this counter steering, it’s been a while since I’ve rode now but I’m sure I just lean into the corner and turn into it at the same time 🤷♂️
Needed that 👍🏽
Is that one of those Chinese dual sport bikes? How do you like it and have you had any issues with it?
I still don’t get it and I never will so I’ll never ride because this goes against logic in my brain
Don't think about it too much, It's the same way you turn a bicycle at high speed.
@@BodieMoto And at low speed. Always.
us mountain bikers have it integrated in the blood riding a motorcycle is just another bicycle but with shifting gears
so why its called countersteering? im a season moped rider, with some occasional full bike ride. when i saw about this countersteering it really made my head mess up.
Because technically you're steering in the opposite (counter) direction of the turn. It's a really bad name tho I agree, it immediately makes its it more confusing. Most people who grew up rising a pedal bike already know how to "countersteer" anyway it's just important to understand in case of emergency situations, so you don't accidentally do the wrong thing
This is how you learned to steer your first bicycle and ever since on a bicycle or a motorbike. This is how you steer and control it.
@@kjellg6532 probably i do it subconciously, i have no problem turning tight and fast. the ride feel weird if i think about it and countersteer
I have shared this video so many times with friends!
People need to know what press and push and pull mean
Makes no sense in my head but I’ll trust
This seems so crazy to me lol I rode dirtbikes for 10+ yrs but this concept seems so sketchy lol
Think about how you push your bike down underneath you to corner hard, your pushing down on that inside handle bar , your aren't turning your handle bars unless you're doing super slow turns
@@BodieMoto oh yeah I guess your right because your inside arm will extend, and on a street bike your usually gonna be hanging out sticking your leg out lol so I see what you mean now
@@zackavery1129 yeah it's one of those things that's more confusing for experienced riders than it is beginning lol because you've been countersteering your whole life already without anyone telling you to
Unfortunately the BMW 1250 Has a terrible steering angle even while in the corner I still have to push outward on the left bar to go left I don’t know if it’s the width of the tire in the rear? But it would be a lot more comfortable if it had a natural lean into a corner. My 650 V Strom is a joy to ride it naturally takes the corner so you don’t even think about it and so comfortable actually has a better riding position
it looks as if the bike dances and we as riders are just dancing along with it.
Countersteering is counter intuitive cuz you would think pushing the right handlebar would point the wheel left and thus turn left and pulling the right handlebar would turn you right. What kinda physics are at work here i wonder
Two wheel physics. In a short snap you get a lean to the rifgt. Then you turn the handlebar into a right turn. The short countersteering snap is jus to get a right hand lean into the rifgthand turn.
It’s called guided missle 😅
Forward it down im always confused
You press forward on the grip. He clearly states it in his video.
@@countryjoe3551 they say that but it looks different in videos which is why I asked
Like diagonally outwards in the desired direction? or generally forward Without actually turning the handlebars
General forward without actually turn the bars, basically apply pressure on the handle horizontally
@@BodieMoto sweet. I'm worried about getting my first motorcycle and this is the part that freaks me out. I've ridden dirt bikes my whole life and heard that people do it intuitively without realizing it. Just gotta practice ✌️🙏🏼
@@andrewbledsoe131 yeah you definitely do it without realizing. And you should be fine I definitely recommend a motorcycle safety course, I taught myself to ride before it but the class really taught me everything I needed to know to start riding safely. Just remember you're on a bike things can do bad quickly, gotta be as safe as possible
@@BodieMoto oh most definitely. My dad recommended the same thing. I'm gonna get my permit this week by written test. Buy the bike, then sign myself up for the class so I don't miss out on the bike I have my eyes on. Should be a great starter. Thanks for the advice! You're the bomb. Subscribed
@@andrewbledsoe131 hell yeah man have fun out there and stay safe, you're gonna love ittt. And thank you bro I appreciate that
Won’t pushing the handle bar turn it?
Yes that’s what you want
@@thehorizontries4759 ok but saying push is throwing me off. In direct steering, I don’t think of it as pushing and pulling the handle. I think it as just turning it.
Do you mean push down or forward? Because foreward to me is like turning the handlebars just softly
forward ofc, its just about giving the bike an angle in the direction you wanna drive, and if you understand physics… to lean into the left… you have to steer slighly to the right
never saw this as countersteering…. more like common sense
Push or give pressure
Aren't you pushing down on the bar?
No. He pushes forward!
AFter you press forward an lean do you mantain the pressure forward? , like if you are in a big turn one you keep pushing or just push lean and the bike stay leaning the whole turn
Basically you push as much as you need to to lean the bike over once you're at the position where the bike is leaned you hold that position you don't need to keep applying pressure to hold it there The bike should be stable mid turn. Don't forget that your body plays a huge part so if you're using your body to lean the bike over you don't need to apply as much pressure to the handlebars but if you aren't using your body to lean the bike over then you need to apply more pressure to the handlebars. In the beginning when you're just kind of learning how to do it I'd recommend actively thinking about counter steering when in a long sweeping turns like in this video instead of sharp slow turns like you would do at an intersection.
Intuitively you definitely already know how to counters there because every time you turn at speed your counter steering whether you know it or not, it just gets a little confusing when you're actually thinking about. Stay safe out there don't overthink it but keep focused!!
How many miles are you up to
Is it that simple? I think it involves alot more. Speed weight lean it's a beautiful symphony
It really is that simple.
Best explanation I have heard. Thank you!
The simplest explanation so far. Does it work the same for power bikes too?
anything with 2 wheel, a handle bar, and 1 pivot point
Do it on a road with bends so we can see it happening.
Your on a straight road !
Why is counter steering harder on a sports bike than adventure bike?
Because the handle bars are higher up on an adventure bike, which makes it easier to tip the bike over with a light press
Sport bikes have clip ons the and handles are near the center of gravity. So think of it like tipping over an egg instead of a can of Pringles. The pringles are easier to tip over, but the egg take more effort to tip over as it's more stable at angle
Best example so simple
Best explanation 👍
lets try on the road 😁
So when you say push do you push down on the handlebar or do you push straight forward like pushing someone away?
Down and away, like towards the ground in front of you
Just push forward. Down does little to nothing.
And what about counter-weight?
That's for slow maneuvering and especially parking lot maneuvers I highly recommend looking up police motorcycle training videos if you want good information on counter weighting technique, I'm not good enough to teach it correctly. Very very important skill to learn though absolutely arguably more important than counter steering
I think of it as a tron bike😂👍
what bike is this?
Hawk 250
haha quite different from countersteering on a car.. I thought this was gonna be a bike drifting tutorial
lmao slam the throttle kick the back brake real hard and you can turn this into a bike drifting tutorial!!!!
Do you push down ? Or push forward? Cause I feel like pushing forward left would make the wheel turn to the right?
You turn right for a split second by pushing the left handle bar. You immediately get a lean to the left. Now you turnt your handlebar into a left turn.
@@kjellg6532
That’s just wrong fella. You don’t ride do you?
@@softailfun OK, can you correct me please?
@@kjellg6532
So any comment?
Push downward not forward
no
@@BodieMotoanother comment you left said to push down
Light pushes or heavy
Depends on whether you wanna live or die.
Depends on the turn
Nice bike.
Id... you do not push forward you are misleading the viewers.. you are slightly pushing down the handle bar...
You're wrong. Pushing down will only lean the bike unless you are on a sports bike, only then can you get away with pushing down because when you push down on the handlebars it actually turns them. Countersteering is steering. Just because your brain can't comprehend that you're actually turning the bars the opposite direction that you're moving doesn't mean that's not what's happening
They really shouldn’t call it counter steering
yeah it confuses alot of people
You mean push downward not forward
No I don't, pushing downwards is pointless, pushing forward is what makes that side of the bar go downwards. You can push down if you want but the force of you pushing down is actually pushing the bar forward. It's called counter steering for a reason lol
@@BodieMotoThis is the only thing that finally sort of made sense to me about countersteering!