2017 Subaru STI Unequal Length VS Killer B Equal Length Header Comparison | Revs, Flybys + MORE!
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I definitely prefer the UEL. I just upgraded to the Invidia Q300 on my STi - I prefer the deeper rumble over stock... and, to me, the rumble is better than music.
That Q300 sounds just awesome on an STI! Not too loud and a lovely exhaust note 😍
UEL wins hands down IMO as far as sound porn. The new setup is decent though, but too rattle can sounding for my tastes. Nice comparison vid though. 🤌🏽
Yeah man, some EL headers/muffler combinations can sound a bit too rattle can-ish. It's much easier to get a nice sounding UEL setup versus the EL.
Agreed.. this was the video that really made me decide to stick with my stock UEL headers. Waaaay too rattle can sounding for EL.
The rattle can have something to do with his downpipe choice but I'm. It sure
UEL headers is by far the best soundings on ejs for sure, having heard equals in person wide open it's just not the same imo. But when going for big power sacrifices will made, that's why I am keeping mine lower because I love the rumble so much.
I'm sold. Killer B ELH for me also. Still the hint of the rumble which we all love. I would also do it firstly for reliability and minimising heat and stress on the motor. With the added throttle response you noticed, I'm sold! Been waiting all week for your video. Thanks so much and the planning involved! Much appreciated 👍
Glad I was able to help in your decision! You’re making the right move.
I was in the same position when I did my header upgrade to my 08 sti. Originally I bought a set of aftermarket UEL headers, but my tuner convinced me to change it to EL. Honestly, the UEL of course sounds cooler, but you could really feel the difference in power with EL. You can feel the car not struggle as much. EL all the way!
Its amazing with the uppipe upgrade as well!! Killer b headers all the way!
Aftermarket Performance UEL Headers are definitely louder, better sounding, and have better Hp/Tq compared to factor.
Man... please don't get rid of this car...
UEL hands down. Yeah equal is more efficient but I can sacrifice a little reliabity for sound. There are still tons of other mods to keep that engine running safe and happy!
Brother your car sounds amazing with both types of exhaust. I would say the first one sounds better than the second. A great video. Stay safe man. Subies forever guys and gals. 😀
The ELH with your current exhaust sounds aggressive but also death by exhaust drone.
I don't think people know how good the equal length actually sounds until you either drive it or hear it in person.
ps, it's Ultimateone from Nasioc :)
Agree, Jeff! One of those things you need to witness in person. Video can only do so much.
Bro...best sound comparison video ever. Thank. You.
They both sound great to me, I'd be happy with either but the power gains from EL tip me towards them over the UEL.
Man the sound with UEL is so agrresive and mentak. You are making me miss my 2017 STi hopefully can get one again in the future! More power to you 🤙🏼
I think people who haven’t heard elh’s in person prefer the opposite, but it sounds amazing. Don’t miss the uel at all after doing the same setup, but with awe touring. Don’t miss it one bit
Off topic, but I like the cinematography, pace, and presentation style of your videos. None of that overly loud, fake enthusiasm, camera-pointed-in-face vlogging nonsense that a lot of other automotive TH-camrs espouse. That's precisely why I'm subscribed to your channel, and watch and like every video. Please don't ever feel that you have to change to appeal to the masses. Keep up the great content. I'm looking forward to hearing what difference the resonated mid-pipe makes. Cheers from halfway across the globe.
Thanks for the support! I always prefer looking at the cars than the person behind/in front of the camera. I will always continue to do me. That will never change! I appreciate the kind words. Cheers!
Both sound great, but it really depends on the EL headers your choose because some sound meh. A good set of EL headers on the ej has a different sound to it versus other 4 cylinders IMO... Still has that deeper subaru tone. Personally, I think the UEL sounds "cooler" but it also sounds inefficient, because it is. The EL sounds more aggressive and refined. My recommendation, if you're going for big power, spool and want your engine to run as good(safe) as possible, EL all day. I do love that Subaru UEL rumble, though.
Another awesome video. Love your car still but don't like the sound personally. Has more of a Evo sound now than STI. Not getting those headers for sure.
Really appreciate all the time and effort for this comparison. The EL sound incredible, it's definitely something I'll look into doing. Can't get enough content of your Subie!
Awesome comparison video.
Those EL headers definitely sound better than I expected! I thought it would sound like every other boring ol' 4cyl out there but there's still some rumble (somehow).
Man, I can only hope my STI will sound this good one day! Congrats man such amazing progress with this car over the last couple of years!
Unequal hands down
First time for me to say equal length those headers sound insane
WOAH! I did not expect the ELH to sound like that. wooow
You need to remap the engine after changing headers, just to keep in mind. UEL is the sound porn so many crave for. I would stay UEL, regardless any downsides it has.
I went with the iag EL but overall my stock turbo spools faster and make a lot of difference in the power band, but of course i miss the rumble sound 🥺
This sounds great, you can still hear that classic rumble. I’m convinced
i have a 2020 STi but hearing this, actually makes me want to go EL , sounds great 🔥
Lots of people say the rumble is gone but in reality its more toned and deepened sounds more rich and mature like an actual race car.
I Can Still Hear The Rumble, It’s Just More Higher Pitch And A But Smoother So It’s Harder To Hear It.
I'm sorry I just can't 😭 this takes away the iconic rumble, definitely keeping UEL on mine
Going to be honest, UEL will always be my particular sound! But man that EL sounds so good when you downshift! Its perfect!
Looks like an STi
Sounds like a FA WRX
I don’t hate it 🤙🏼
Elh sounds so aggressive, plus that subtle turbo whistle is nice. Cleaner power band for sure and those factory uelh look pathetic.
Almost like an Evo, I will be looking to go ELH as well!
My 2018 comes stock with equal length. No rumble 😢
Nice video but UEL > ELH as far as sound IMO.
Aftermarket UEL's make a big difference as well. Definitely a deeper bark than OEM.
But EL + twin scroll is the most efficient overall. Many people overlook that. But the true twin scroll EL manifolds are 💰💰💰💰💰 and usually come in a kit.
I prefer the EL headers for Race Car but I'm nostalgic to the UEL for Subies in general. If I still had my sti I'd go with EL headers with Greddy Evo gt Exhaust cuz the sound combo would be just Right not too loud not too quiet imho.
Very cool, thanks for sharing these! I have a Tomei Ti Expreme which I love, but I'm worried I'll have to get rid of it once I go DP and EL header...It's already pretty loud as it is. Glad to hear you were able to get a resonator for your exhaust...Post sounds clips when you put it on!
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@@Scoobyfreak86 Ah, that sucks! Will be curious to hear how the Cobb Ti sounds with the EL header...I have a feeling it will be very quiet. I heard it in a video with a guy who had aftermarket UEL headers and a catless
DP and it still wasn’t very loud. It is a good option though I think, due to the quality and lightness.
Not bad. It sounds more refined but the most important thing is the added reliability of the ELH
Wow! Hearing your car makes me want to go EL👌🏻🤙🏻
UEL is what makes a Sti an Sti 💪🏼
I saw killer b and started thinking about naruto 😂
I love those headlights, where can I get them for my 2017 sti? And what modifications were done to the wiring for the turn signal and removing the driving light in inner section? Also, the DRLs stay on with the wiring modification as well?
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Man U should have done air pump delete
Good audio comparison between the two. They sound so different from each other. The equal length sounds a bit more raspy and loud. Both sound really good but I do like that deeper unequal length sound. Just a personal preference. Too bad my WRX has equal length. lol Again, great vid.
There are UEL WRX headers now. Just gotta spend that bread if you want the sound lol
I'm strongly considering going EL on my 11 wrx
Highly recommend it. It’s worth it!
That wheel set up is spot on👌 i miss my STI. Did Subaru ever fix the EJ issues asking for a friend
In the type ra and the 2019+, they upgraded some internals and parts to be more durable.
@@Scoobyfreak86 nice yea I thought I read they finally did.
Unrelated but love your fitment. Are those fortune auto?
The coilovers? Yes.
@@Scoobyfreak86 any particular model of the fortune auto coilovers? 500 series?
500’s for the street. 510’s if you intend on tracking.
Killer B EL Headers
is this twin scroll turbi
I bought the Killer B MAX VE, the update on that one is a bigher secondary runner, 2.5" ill be installing this with ETS Rotated kit and a PTE6062 Turbo, im curious how is going to perform, killer b representative told me based on their data this..."If you're going to stick at or
I like the first better
I am biased as a DIT FA WRX man. I will not lie though I enjoy the ULH rumble but not at the cost of longevity. I Iove the sound of my exhaust and ELH set up and this ELH EJ set up more or less duplicates it. Welcome to the ELH alumni 👨🎓 . It has a select and small group of EJ members but all converts are welcomed 🤣 with open arms 💪💪.
Our motto “ Be rumble free and enjoy 😊 increased power, longevity and reliability with your turbocharged boxer H4 seriously“ 👍
I just want an STI nice car... and I just happened to stumble upon your channel so Algorithm is working for you
Equal length headers sounds like a Honda S2000🤔 not that it sounds bad cause S2K’s actually sound amazing too.
I think the ej motor sounds great with EL headers even better than the rumble in my honest opinion all the rumble is it's a gimmick your losing power to hear a deep tone. Just listen to that sti revving now with the EL headers it's screaming with joy and the response is faster since it can finally breath properly
I thought I would leave the engine in stock after this video I can't ..... this smells like divorce to me...hahahaha!!!!
2:07 daddy lookin swole
UEL all day any day
That dump noise at 1:41… is that the Cobb bypass valve?
No that’s from the intake
UEL all day long
Lapis Pearl Blue here from ocean county also with ELH …I’ll see you on the GSP homie
UEL for sure.
Ngl I'll personally always prefer the uel headers but they still sound crazy with el. Sick video man
damn legend. An STi and a telluride. Meanwhile, i had a '17 STi, sold it for my ASCENT.
Don’t get me wrong I love the sound the UEL but ELH cause performance and just overall better for the car.
Did they tell you why they stopped fabricating exhausts? I really don't wanna go buy another exhaust unless it's a Delta one
Unfortunately, covid effected their business. They started to make small parts again, but not sure if they will start making exhausts again.
@@Scoobyfreak86 that and the fact that people rather buy the big name brands, honestly I wish people knew more about them, Im from the PNW and here every one is running ETS, Cobb, Nameless, I always tried to tell people about Delta but they were skeptic about them idk why if everywhere I went they liked my axle backs and asked about them and I would tell them it's a small company and they build according to what gets ordered also they're hand crafted unlike the many other companies.
One is clearly better than the other ;) I wonder what aftermarket un equals sound like… bit better flow than the OEMs, but sameish sound
Sounds good !
Can you still hear the induction noises after these upgrades? headers+downpipe?
Induction and turbo noises are wayyyy more audible than before.
@@Scoobyfreak86 man you've inspired me so much! I can't wait to do this with my car!!
UEL sounds way better. Just my opinion 🤷 nice car tho.
That color flicker is 👌.. and ELH doesn’t sound too bad in the video. Would have to hear it in person but if it’s more efficient and you like it then who cares?
Is there any way to reliably run UEL headers? Any sort of mod or heat shield to help with heating issues?
Yes you can for sure. The cylinder 4 cooling mod helps but can only do so much. If you are focused on reliability, going to EL is the way to go.
@@Scoobyfreak86 ok thanks dude
I have STI with Killer B headers/Q300 catback. The UEL headers will always sound more gooder and deeper signature subie rumble. However, the performance benefits of the EL headers wins for me. Great comparison ! To me , the car is far more enjoyable with the EL headers
It all depends on your exhaust, I have equal lengths on my 06 wrx daily but a quieter setup and it sounds like butter
I like the stock better. Too raspy. But yeah, EL will be more reliable.
Definitely Ej rumble sounds better. The equal length headers sound like a normal inline 4 performance engine
I’ve always preferred UEL headers. If I ever go high horse power I will go with EL headers
do you need a tune for equal headers?????
Yes
What spacers do you run? Mm
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Great comparison video. I forgot what an UEL sti sounded like.
UEL all the way. Literally the only reason I liked my Subaru. Without it just sounds like every other 4 banger
do you get more pops and crackles from EL? I have a 2017 STI with UEL...cobb sf intake and ebcs, invidia catless downpipe and r400 exhaust, aem fuel pump, etc...I love the way the exhaust sounds. almost identical to yours UEL. But I get almost no pops and crackles on rev matching downshifts. Is it something you were tuned for, or is it just natural with that setup?
Just natural with my setup. I got a lot of gurgles and pops on downshifts.
Uel for ej El for Fa
Uel is for sure a more subaru sound. But el sounds cool to. Kinda has more of that rally rasp.
Great video with awesome info. I appreciate it!
EL headers surprised me. it sounds better than UEL imo
The rumble is still there it's just extremely high pitched
For my uel subaru sound total difference
Rumble is kinda still there .. I can’t wait for my AWE to arrive. Are you planning to install the mid pipe yourself? Also, do you have a video for the f1 light?
Yes I just installed the midpipe tonight.
I don’t have an install video on that. One of the first things I did when I got the car. Wasn’t really making videos yet.
How much power is this car making with the ELH set up. Any reason you didn't go external wastegate?
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equal sounds and performs better
what a cool dad. your girls are gonna be car gals
Nice video. Just found your channel. Car looks sick. What's the name of the rims you have?
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iDoing. There is a link in the description under car stuff for it.
thanks for the reply! Ive been looking to replace my head unit, and this looks amazing, love the video btw, super helpful!
need a tune killer header ?
Yes. Stay tuned for tomorrows video as I go over modifications that you can do that do not require a tune.
I’m at the point with my build that EL is almost required to get my performance where I want it… but I just can’t get rid of the rumble 🥺
Is not for everyone, but I have to say, I have 0 regrets. It sounds fantastic after finding the right exhaust to pair with it.
I would say uel even tho I'm on el also . But besides that I follow your page because your car is sooooooo clean I love it . Only thing I would do is rain guards . Do you still like the idoing radio ? Ps even your motor shines lol
I’m not a big fan of the rain guard look. Yes still love the idoing.