I like the video, a ton of great stuff, but your assessment on brakes.... Let me be painfully clear. All of these bikes have enough braking power to stop a small passenger car. Brake quality is defined by power vs duration, they all have the power to lock the wheel up 10 times over, the question becomes brake feel and quality of the abs controller an tech. If the MT-10 stops faster than the other 3(it in fact does) its only because it weighs the least.
May I suggest a new test. How about the Honda CB1000 R [as tested here], Yam MT10 [base model], Kawasaki Z1000 [R edition], Suzuki Katana and the Triumph Speed Triple R [not the more expensive RS]. These are all much closer to each other in price.
Good suggestion, always happy to get feedback on what people are interested in. I will try my best to tick off a few of these but I may not get chance to try all of them. Thanks again though
Thanks mate, i Bought a brand new 2019 CB1000-R from Wisconsin 7 months ago. To me Honda is a Name to Bragg about even if it was on an unfinished piece of metal 😃 Price was not an issue to me when considering the other 3 motorcycle brands, but Honda got a balanced, reliable engine. I brought a lot of quality condiments for it like: Castrol actevo 10W30 engine oil for first oil change (after 600 miles), Motul 7100 4T 10W40 Oil, a box of Engine ice Coolant, K&N oil Filters & Motul RBF600 brake liquid 😎
Off topic slightly, but I test rode the Ducati and the Speed Triple, looked at the Honda and the MT10 and ended up buying the KTM 790 Duke. Gives me enough power to get into and out of any trouble I want, lighter, cheaper, so many extras as standard and is an absolute hoot to ride. I'd rather ride a slower bike fast than a faster bike slow. And with so many bloody camera's everywhere these days the 790 did it for me. Great review though, like your style!
Thank you. I completely agree. I love feeling more in control of the bike than getting something a bit too big for the road and feeling like i'm along for the ride. Quality purchase.
You are a pleassure to listen to, it seems you know what you are talking about, you cover all the basics (and a little more) very good. You actually helped me choose my current bike (speed triple rs, which i obviously think is the best) Keep up the good work! Btw. I think all the bikes over there are extremely cheap! In Denmark I handed over 225.000 dkr (26.662 gbp) for the Speedy. But then I also got tpms, heated grips, shift assist and crash protection... 😂
Thanks man that's really kind. Glad to hear I helped your decision with what is a bloody brilliant bike, I am a big fan of triumph, they are on top form at the moment.
Great work once again ! I totally agree with your comparison (tested the 4 too) +my 2 cents : - in terms of comfort (position 60% / saddle 40%) i would personnally play in order 1) MT10 SP 2) Speed Triple 3) CB1000R 4) Ducati Monster. - in terms of daily fuel budget and autonomy, i would say (best to worse) : 1) Speed Triple 2) CB1000R 3) Ducati Monster 4) MT10 SP - in terms of aftermarket value after few years i'd say (best to worse) : 1) Speed T. 2) Monster 3) CB1000R 4) MT10 SP - in terms of Trackdays ability (best to worse) : 1) MT10 SP 2) Monster (R) 3) Speed T. 4) CB1000R I don't know about the UK/US market but in Belgium/France, the number of MT10 (SP or not) on sale at low price is amazing so the price goes lower and lower. It seems peeps don't like the very noisy engine and all his noises at cold/warm that don't give much confidence on long term basis (even if some have already 40k+ Miles and even if it's a mistake, all CBR 954 RR have very noisy engine and they are nearly indestructible). Let's be honest, that crossplane feature is great but many lambda & confirmed riders i know who tested the bike think it's a very dangerous bike and that it doesn't forgive mistakes as the other bikes would (I personnally found the MT 10 SP more dangerous than the KTM 1290 SD R, mainly because of its ride-by-Wire+crossplane instant response). The aftermarket value of the Speedies are always very high BUT these very fragile matt paintings (black RS) might change the rules at short term and i predict Ducati's to keep more value on long term. (PS: Still want to buy A Speed RS in few months and still waiting like a kid with his christmas gifts the 25th anniversary SE announcement !) V
I agree with you in most of your standpoints. For me, the MT-10 seems very unattractive (looks wise) compared to the others, and in particular the triumph and ducati which to me seems much more luxurious and well sorted. I just have one correction for you. :-) in the latest issue of Performance Bikes Magazine, the Speed Triple RS is timed around Donington Park. In earlier issues the MT10 Sp and the Monster 1200s was also timed. They were all tested on the same tires (Metzeler Racetec RR), and the lap times was as follows: Speedy: 1:39.51 MT10 Sp: 1:41.51 Monster 1200s: 1:42.02. That is a huge gap in the Speed Triples favour, which is actually faster around Donington than the KTM Super Duke R. From the test: "After Johnny datalogged the Speed RS against the Yamaha MT-10 SP in Almeria, and trounced it, we werent surprised that it did the same at Donington. The fact that the Speed RS has slotted in the leaderboard in front of the KTM Super Duke R was a surprise. The KTM has significantly more power, and electronics much more suited to track riding. The Triumph's superior ground clearance and usability proving to be its ace card." I can e-mail you the test if you like.
@@AndreasBrOlesen Nice you teached me something bro, ty vm. Well considered it's not very surprising seen the Speed is the only one who can allow the best power delivery seen that, with others, it's always too much. The Speed's chassis is my favourite by far too. Good news for me who will have a Speedy in early 2019 and like trackdays :) V
Thanks man. I agree with you for the most part definitely. You can get some good deals on the MT10 and it is a great bike but I hear what your saying about the risk. I think I would probably ride a little recklessly on the MT10 which ups the risk factor. I think the speed triple would be the past track bike though personally. And aside everything else I would happily go for the Triumph the same as you. Looking forward to the anniversary edition.
Motos et Potos Congrats! I also just bought one. I planned on buying a new bike in the spring 2019, but the Triumph dealer here warned price increases from 1. january, so i had to go for it now. I only just rode it home this tuesday (200 km in freesing cold), and now it is sitting until spring.. Talk about self torture! 😂
@@AndreasBrOlesen haha i understand the feeling...sold my CBR 954 RR (that i owned for 15years) to save money for the new one so i don't even have a bike right now...total torture too ! :) I really hope Triumph will bring out a 25th anniversary SE i wait only for that reason ... they are known to announce stuff after big expo (EICMA, etc) so i can only wait and hope i won't have to sell an organ to buy it :D
Don't forget the Honda's Plus version has a quick shifter and heated grips. Not just phoof body work bits. As a former '16 Tuono Factory owner I would like to comment. Who would purchase each one of these bikes? Why purchase a Honda if KTM, Aprilia, Yamaha, BMW make better bikes? The Honda's are selling... Is it price? No because these bikes are about passion more than practical use. So why then? I'll answer from my perspective. After niggles with my Ape I sold it. The warranty was up and I felt it was like dating a hot crazy woman. Time to settle down and find something a bit more long term. Like the hot woman it was plastic fantastic and hot as hell to live with. Fun yes but lifetime... No. So something more long term and easier to live with. Oh now the Honda edges up the ranks. Let's talk subjective and mention looks. What looks good to a rider. Motorcycles have become caricatures. Johnny 5, Alien, Bug, Muscle-head... Where is the Honda in this? It kind of looks like a boring yet clean motorcycle. Back to the sexist woman analogy, This could be the marrying kind. Attractive yet not trying to kill you. You are starting to understand where I am headed. Yes, I purchased a Honda. I confess I have a harem of motorcycles. A touring, dirt, super moto, and Panigale. This bike suits me like a Tuxedo of motorcycles. Simple, clean, elegant, not showy, yet it can do the business if called upon. Ducati makes a muscle bike, Yamaha's alien robot, KTM's Mantis, Aprilia's Racer Boy... I just wanted a motorcycle that works and looks like a motorcycle. I guess I'm riding on the street and not looking for performance as the top reason to purchase. It was livability and looks. Riding in a vacuum you only doubt your purchase when you read or watch reviews. I say purchase what you want. Life is short and they make so many motorcycles. I do wish I could ride them all.
What sad times we live in if a TH-camr can't say which is his favourite bike out of fear that some viewers will be butthurt.....I thought primary school finished at age 12?
Yeah and the hateful comments still abound regardless theres no escaping the 12 year olds. My pick is the Triumph though in all honesty, I love a triple, it's very well put together and it's pretty good value for money too. They're all good though genuinely.
@@RarefiedRoad My favourite too. Looking at other tests the Triumph generally seems to come out on top. Performance bikes track tested the MT10 SP against the new Triumph Speedie and the Trumpet trounced it by some 2 seconds or so. Doesn't sound a lot but by track testing terms that's a big gap. 44 teeth loved and raved over the Triumphs handling and power delivery big time. If I had the money it would be the Triumph, no question. Oh and it's beautifully finished too.
I've watched a number of your reviews now and quite enjoy them. Your analysis is very clear. Here, I only wish you'd added your sense of the bike's overall personalities. I understand your reluctance to pick a winner in a field of great machines, but bikes aren't just the sum of their parts (engine, brakes, suspension assessed individually). For example, the Honda here doesn't rank among the "supernakeds" and clearly isn't going to win at the track, but is the only argument for it price (perhaps so, but I'd like to find out)? Stats I can get from a spec sheet. Respectfully, I watch reviews to hear how they feel (then perhaps I test for myself). Thanks!
I agree. It was really just a summary of all the 'Big' bikes that I've managed to test on the channel but there are many different reasons for picking a bike and it's hard to cover all of them in 10 minutes or so. I'll be trying to focus more on the feel in future videos for sure. Thanks for watching.
@@RarefiedRoad Had to get back to you because I just watched your Guzzi V7 piece, and that was a truly beautiful review. Forget any doubts I had about your conveying a sense of overall feel - that had it in spades. Just wished you'd applied a bit o' that here. Oh, and having read some of the reader comments in your other reviews (790 vs. Striple), you have the patience of a saint at a young age. Thanks again for putting these together for us (and a bit for you, right?).
@@erikleeblake thanks, that's really kind. The channel is definitely for me, I found that wen I got my first bike I wasn't happy just knowing how my bike felt, I wanted to be able to compare it to something so I satrted filming. I'm just glad it occasionally helps other people with their decisions.
Ahh you're quite right I forgot the plus comes with the quick shifter. Unfortunately I could only get my hands on the regular CB1000 otherwise I definitely would have done.
Agree on the Honda’s looks both in fit and finish👍🏼but the Yamaha MT-10 0-100/200 kph beats most modern 1000cc super bikes it’s a true beast during acceleration! I just wish Honda wasn’t lazy and put damn cruise control on it
Haha no no and no!! I own a 2019 cb1000r and a 2019 mt10. The mt10 is better in every aspect in regards to performance ! No chance the cb1000r can beat the mt10 in a quarter mile! The honda has underwhelming,disappointing low end power /torque, my biggest gripe with the cb1000r is how the abs kicks in too damn early, i would say it kicks in prematurely! It is the only bike i always need to use the rear brake ( other owners i know have had to start doing the same with the rear brakes). The cb1000r is a looker, not a performer.
I just can't love a monster, the street fighter was such a better looking bike. No matter how capable the current monster's are I just think they don't look as good.
I prefer the older looks for sure, they've improved them a bit in my opinion since the mid 2000's snub faced looking versions with the stretched headlight but I still prefer the original styling.
Respectfully disagree, it's not a real world measurement since you'd never be riding the bike without fluids wet weight makes more sense to me and most manufacturers list them wet, it's mainly KTM and triumph that opt for dry weight which means it's very difficult to judge them against the rest of the field. But in all honesty it wouldn't matter to me which they choose as long as they are all using the same metric.
Rarefied Road the wet weight can only be comparable if equal amounts of fluids are applied to each vehicle. Take another variable, the weight of the rider. That will also affect the physics/handling of the bike. Dry weight is what we engineer.
@@SigmaJAD Not disputing that but you will be riding with the wet weight so that will be your perceived weight of the bike when it's in use. And again I don't really care which measurement they use as long as they all use the same. Most of them go for wet.
@@RarefiedRoad so I live in India and can't decide which naked streetfighter to go for. I am looking for a bike that is light and nimble when it comes to handling but also one that is reliable and easy to live with. I really like the street tripple but there are other options like the mt09 and the z900 so having a tough time to decide , any suggestions. Love the Ducati's 821 monster but I have heard they are tough to maintain.
@@brown_boy_who_lifts from the bikes you've mentioned I'd go for the Z900 just because I personally like the way it rides and it's a solid bike. The Ducati would be fine, and honestly it probably handles the best but you need to keep up with the servicing, Ducati's are fine as long as you take care of them. The Yamaha and Kawasaki would be easier to keep though.
Rarefied Road so thats a no for the str765 . just love the way it looks . and have heard good things about it. the triumph dealership is in a neighbouring city only an hour away where as the kawasaki , mt09 and ducati dealerships are in new delhi which in 5 hours away so thought the triumph would be easy to service and up keep in terms of getting parts.
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I like the video, a ton of great stuff, but your assessment on brakes....
Let me be painfully clear. All of these bikes have enough braking power to stop a small passenger car. Brake quality is defined by power vs duration, they all have the power to lock the wheel up 10 times over, the question becomes brake feel and quality of the abs controller an tech.
If the MT-10 stops faster than the other 3(it in fact does) its only because it weighs the least.
Got to be the speedie, the build quality and reliability for that price, plus low end torque and top end lunacy ... it's a winner
It is a fantastic all rounder.
May I suggest a new test. How about the Honda CB1000 R [as tested here], Yam MT10 [base model], Kawasaki Z1000 [R edition], Suzuki Katana and the Triumph Speed Triple R [not the more expensive RS]. These are all much closer to each other in price.
Good suggestion, always happy to get feedback on what people are interested in. I will try my best to tick off a few of these but I may not get chance to try all of them. Thanks again though
Thanks mate, i Bought a brand new 2019 CB1000-R from Wisconsin 7 months ago. To me Honda is a Name to Bragg about even if it was on an unfinished piece of metal 😃 Price was not an issue to me when considering the other 3 motorcycle brands, but Honda got a balanced, reliable engine. I brought a lot of quality condiments for it like: Castrol actevo 10W30 engine oil for first oil change (after 600 miles), Motul 7100 4T 10W40 Oil, a box of Engine ice Coolant, K&N oil Filters & Motul RBF600 brake liquid 😎
Off topic slightly, but I test rode the Ducati and the Speed Triple, looked at the Honda and the MT10 and ended up buying the KTM 790 Duke. Gives me enough power to get into and out of any trouble I want, lighter, cheaper, so many extras as standard and is an absolute hoot to ride. I'd rather ride a slower bike fast than a faster bike slow. And with so many bloody camera's everywhere these days the 790 did it for me. Great review though, like your style!
Thank you. I completely agree. I love feeling more in control of the bike than getting something a bit too big for the road and feeling like i'm along for the ride. Quality purchase.
MT10 all the way! But the Ducati also looks nice.
Nah. Triumph all day every day. The sportiest, best handling and best finished.
You'll be looking for fuel every hour on the mt??
@@fyorbane
Hell no, it get slapped by mt 10 easily.
You are a pleassure to listen to, it seems you know what you are talking about, you cover all the basics (and a little more) very good. You actually helped me choose my current bike (speed triple rs, which i obviously think is the best) Keep up the good work! Btw. I think all the bikes over there are extremely cheap! In Denmark I handed over 225.000 dkr (26.662 gbp) for the Speedy. But then I also got tpms, heated grips, shift assist and crash protection... 😂
Thanks man that's really kind. Glad to hear I helped your decision with what is a bloody brilliant bike, I am a big fan of triumph, they are on top form at the moment.
Great work once again ! I totally agree with your comparison (tested the 4 too)
+my 2 cents :
- in terms of comfort (position 60% / saddle 40%) i would personnally play in order 1) MT10 SP 2) Speed Triple 3) CB1000R 4) Ducati Monster.
- in terms of daily fuel budget and autonomy, i would say (best to worse) : 1) Speed Triple 2) CB1000R 3) Ducati Monster 4) MT10 SP
- in terms of aftermarket value after few years i'd say (best to worse) : 1) Speed T. 2) Monster 3) CB1000R 4) MT10 SP
- in terms of Trackdays ability (best to worse) : 1) MT10 SP 2) Monster (R) 3) Speed T. 4) CB1000R
I don't know about the UK/US market but in Belgium/France, the number of MT10 (SP or not) on sale at low price is amazing so the price goes lower and lower. It seems peeps don't like the very noisy engine and all his noises at cold/warm that don't give much confidence on long term basis (even if some have already 40k+ Miles and even if it's a mistake, all CBR 954 RR have very noisy engine and they are nearly indestructible). Let's be honest, that crossplane feature is great but many lambda & confirmed riders i know who tested the bike think it's a very dangerous bike and that it doesn't forgive mistakes as the other bikes would (I personnally found the MT 10 SP more dangerous than the KTM 1290 SD R, mainly because of its ride-by-Wire+crossplane instant response).
The aftermarket value of the Speedies are always very high BUT these very fragile matt paintings (black RS) might change the rules at short term and i predict Ducati's to keep more value on long term.
(PS: Still want to buy A Speed RS in few months and still waiting like a kid with his christmas gifts the 25th anniversary SE announcement !)
V
I agree with you in most of your standpoints. For me, the MT-10 seems very unattractive (looks wise) compared to the others, and in particular the triumph and ducati which to me seems much more luxurious and well sorted. I just have one correction for you. :-) in the latest issue of Performance Bikes Magazine, the Speed Triple RS is timed around Donington Park. In earlier issues the MT10 Sp and the Monster 1200s was also timed. They were all tested on the same tires (Metzeler Racetec RR), and the lap times was as follows: Speedy: 1:39.51 MT10 Sp: 1:41.51 Monster 1200s: 1:42.02. That is a huge gap in the Speed Triples favour, which is actually faster around Donington than the KTM Super Duke R.
From the test: "After Johnny datalogged the Speed RS against the Yamaha MT-10 SP in Almeria, and trounced it, we werent surprised that it did the same at Donington. The fact that the Speed RS has slotted in the leaderboard in front of the KTM Super Duke R was a surprise. The KTM has significantly more power, and electronics much more suited to track riding. The Triumph's superior ground clearance and usability proving to be its ace card."
I can e-mail you the test if you like.
@@AndreasBrOlesen Nice you teached me something bro, ty vm. Well considered it's not very surprising seen the Speed is the only one who can allow the best power delivery seen that, with others, it's always too much. The Speed's chassis is my favourite by far too. Good news for me who will have a Speedy in early 2019 and like trackdays :) V
Thanks man. I agree with you for the most part definitely. You can get some good deals on the MT10 and it is a great bike but I hear what your saying about the risk. I think I would probably ride a little recklessly on the MT10 which ups the risk factor. I think the speed triple would be the past track bike though personally. And aside everything else I would happily go for the Triumph the same as you. Looking forward to the anniversary edition.
Motos et Potos Congrats! I also just bought one. I planned on buying a new bike in the spring 2019, but the Triumph dealer here warned price increases from 1. january, so i had to go for it now. I only just rode it home this tuesday (200 km in freesing cold), and now it is sitting until spring.. Talk about self torture! 😂
@@AndreasBrOlesen haha i understand the feeling...sold my CBR 954 RR (that i owned for 15years) to save money for the new one so i don't even have a bike right now...total torture too ! :) I really hope Triumph will bring out a 25th anniversary SE i wait only for that reason ... they are known to announce stuff after big expo (EICMA, etc) so i can only wait and hope i won't have to sell an organ to buy it :D
Don't forget the Honda's Plus version has a quick shifter and heated grips. Not just phoof body work bits. As a former '16 Tuono Factory owner I would like to comment. Who would purchase each one of these bikes? Why purchase a Honda if KTM, Aprilia, Yamaha, BMW make better bikes? The Honda's are selling... Is it price? No because these bikes are about passion more than practical use. So why then? I'll answer from my perspective. After niggles with my Ape I sold it. The warranty was up and I felt it was like dating a hot crazy woman. Time to settle down and find something a bit more long term. Like the hot woman it was plastic fantastic and hot as hell to live with. Fun yes but lifetime... No. So something more long term and easier to live with. Oh now the Honda edges up the ranks. Let's talk subjective and mention looks. What looks good to a rider. Motorcycles have become caricatures. Johnny 5, Alien, Bug, Muscle-head... Where is the Honda in this? It kind of looks like a boring yet clean motorcycle. Back to the sexist woman analogy, This could be the marrying kind. Attractive yet not trying to kill you. You are starting to understand where I am headed. Yes, I purchased a Honda. I confess I have a harem of motorcycles. A touring, dirt, super moto, and Panigale. This bike suits me like a Tuxedo of motorcycles. Simple, clean, elegant, not showy, yet it can do the business if called upon. Ducati makes a muscle bike, Yamaha's alien robot, KTM's Mantis, Aprilia's Racer Boy... I just wanted a motorcycle that works and looks like a motorcycle. I guess I'm riding on the street and not looking for performance as the top reason to purchase. It was livability and looks. Riding in a vacuum you only doubt your purchase when you read or watch reviews. I say purchase what you want. Life is short and they make so many motorcycles. I do wish I could ride them all.
CB1000R !!! 145hp (107kw)
Servicing costs over the first 3yrs?
Insurance costs over 3 years?
How much value they loose after 3years maybe? Great review👌
Yeah all valid. First time I've tried the format, it's hard to know what to include in 10 minutes.
Been waiting for this video!
Great vid. I appreciate the thorough and unbiased amnnd objective opinion. Thanks! 👍👍👍
Thank you, I try to keep my own opinion from swaying people too much because honestly they're all really good. Thanks for watching.
What sad times we live in if a TH-camr can't say which is his favourite bike out of fear that some viewers will be butthurt.....I thought primary school finished at age 12?
Yeah and the hateful comments still abound regardless theres no escaping the 12 year olds.
My pick is the Triumph though in all honesty, I love a triple, it's very well put together and it's pretty good value for money too. They're all good though genuinely.
@@RarefiedRoad My favourite too. Looking at other tests the Triumph generally seems to come out on top. Performance bikes track tested the MT10 SP against the new Triumph Speedie and the Trumpet trounced it by some 2 seconds or so. Doesn't sound a lot but by track testing terms that's a big gap. 44 teeth loved and raved over the Triumphs handling and power delivery big time. If I had the money it would be the Triumph, no question. Oh and it's beautifully finished too.
Clearly weren’t looking hard enough: Speed triple dry: 192kg
Wet: 212kg.
If that's on their site then clearly I wasn't.
I've watched a number of your reviews now and quite enjoy them. Your analysis is very clear. Here, I only wish you'd added your sense of the bike's overall personalities. I understand your reluctance to pick a winner in a field of great machines, but bikes aren't just the sum of their parts (engine, brakes, suspension assessed individually). For example, the Honda here doesn't rank among the "supernakeds" and clearly isn't going to win at the track, but is the only argument for it price (perhaps so, but I'd like to find out)? Stats I can get from a spec sheet. Respectfully, I watch reviews to hear how they feel (then perhaps I test for myself). Thanks!
I agree. It was really just a summary of all the 'Big' bikes that I've managed to test on the channel but there are many different reasons for picking a bike and it's hard to cover all of them in 10 minutes or so. I'll be trying to focus more on the feel in future videos for sure. Thanks for watching.
@@RarefiedRoad Had to get back to you because I just watched your Guzzi V7 piece, and that was a truly beautiful review. Forget any doubts I had about your conveying a sense of overall feel - that had it in spades. Just wished you'd applied a bit o' that here. Oh, and having read some of the reader comments in your other reviews (790 vs. Striple), you have the patience of a saint at a young age. Thanks again for putting these together for us (and a bit for you, right?).
@@erikleeblake thanks, that's really kind. The channel is definitely for me, I found that wen I got my first bike I wasn't happy just knowing how my bike felt, I wanted to be able to compare it to something so I satrted filming. I'm just glad it occasionally helps other people with their decisions.
Great vid thanks. BUT you must try a KTM Super Duke. Probably win all round bar price.
Thank you. It's definitely on the list, just need to find the time.
Ducati is out because it will break down. Even the demo bike I rode at Ducati Aylesbury had a broken rear brake. Does not augur well :(
I enjoy your reviews. That being said, you should have tested the plus model of the cb1000r. It also has a quick shifter.
Ahh you're quite right I forgot the plus comes with the quick shifter. Unfortunately I could only get my hands on the regular CB1000 otherwise I definitely would have done.
Love your video. Keep doing what your doing. Need to see more.
Thank you.
The Honda beats them all on look sand build quality , and would beat them all in a quarter mile run!
I'm not convinced about the quarter mile run but I do think it's a pretty bike, love the neo retro styling.
Agree on the Honda’s looks both in fit and finish👍🏼but the Yamaha MT-10 0-100/200 kph beats most modern 1000cc super bikes it’s a true beast during acceleration! I just wish Honda wasn’t lazy and put damn cruise control on it
Haha no no and no!!
I own a 2019 cb1000r and a 2019 mt10. The mt10 is better in every aspect in regards to performance ! No chance the cb1000r can beat the mt10 in a quarter mile! The honda has underwhelming,disappointing low end power /torque, my biggest gripe with the cb1000r is how the abs kicks in too damn early, i would say it kicks in prematurely! It is the only bike i always need to use the rear brake ( other owners i know have had to start doing the same with the rear brakes). The cb1000r is a looker, not a performer.
The triumph for me...thx
Solid choice, it does everything very well.
Power, lunacy, reliability and value just buy the standard MT10. Good job your top trumps cards didn't list fuel consumption: The Yam would be bottom!
Ha! Yeah my original edit definitely did but I took it out in the end. I've heard the MT10 is a thirsty beast.
I just can't love a monster, the street fighter was such a better looking bike. No matter how capable the current monster's are I just think they don't look as good.
I prefer the older looks for sure, they've improved them a bit in my opinion since the mid 2000's snub faced looking versions with the stretched headlight but I still prefer the original styling.
You're wrong, not listing dry weight is hiding something. It's the best measure of weight.
Respectfully disagree, it's not a real world measurement since you'd never be riding the bike without fluids wet weight makes more sense to me and most manufacturers list them wet, it's mainly KTM and triumph that opt for dry weight which means it's very difficult to judge them against the rest of the field. But in all honesty it wouldn't matter to me which they choose as long as they are all using the same metric.
Rarefied Road the wet weight can only be comparable if equal amounts of fluids are applied to each vehicle. Take another variable, the weight of the rider. That will also affect the physics/handling of the bike. Dry weight is what we engineer.
TempestuousD I agree with you. A large fuel tank shouldn't be a disadvantage on paper..
@@SigmaJAD Not disputing that but you will be riding with the wet weight so that will be your perceived weight of the bike when it's in use. And again I don't really care which measurement they use as long as they all use the same. Most of them go for wet.
u missed out on the Tuono
Yeah I did. Unfortunately I haven't been able to get on the Tuono so I couldn't really comment on it. I'd love to find a tester somewhere though.
@@RarefiedRoad so I live in India and can't decide which naked streetfighter to go for. I am looking for a bike that is light and nimble when it comes to handling but also one that is reliable and easy to live with. I really like the street tripple but there are other options like the mt09 and the z900 so having a tough time to decide , any suggestions. Love the Ducati's 821 monster but I have heard they are tough to maintain.
@@brown_boy_who_lifts from the bikes you've mentioned I'd go for the Z900 just because I personally like the way it rides and it's a solid bike. The Ducati would be fine, and honestly it probably handles the best but you need to keep up with the servicing, Ducati's are fine as long as you take care of them. The Yamaha and Kawasaki would be easier to keep though.
Rarefied Road so thats a no for the str765 . just love the way it looks . and have heard good things about it. the triumph dealership is in a neighbouring city only an hour away where as the kawasaki , mt09 and ducati dealerships are in new delhi which in 5 hours away so thought the triumph would be easy to service and up keep in terms of getting parts.
Rarefied Road my heart says triumph street tripple and brain says mt09 . so a bit confused.
Honda is a gran more expensive than the MT10 in the Phi