So many people get hung up on the objective specifications of a bike, when it's the subjective points you just talked about that really tell the true story. I wish all bike journalists were that honest.
Now that is a garage to be envious of! Given what I have seen of those first-gen FZ1 models (being surprisingly comfortable powerhouses), let me guess: 60000 kms (37000 miles)?
Talking about how much he likes Ducati in a KTM hoodie...music when showing the SuperDuke is twice as loud as the music for the other bikes in the video.
Great video. I have to say though. I owned an FZ-09 for many years, just sold it and am looking to buy another one. I’ve ridden the FZ-10 and really liked it, but I’m just not enthralled to step up to it. I was able to test ride the 1290 at your dealership this past summer, I was very excited as it’s been my dream bike for the past couple years. However to my dismay I was EXTREMELY underwhelmed with the 1290, maybe my opinion would change if I owned it as a daily bike. But I felt like all the money was spent on the toys and gimics on the bike, and it left me feeling very disconnected riding it.
That is interesting - you may be right that a little more saddle time might help. It is a cool bike in the fact that, if you are riding with traffic, it rides smooth and is not demanding. Wick it up when things open up and that is where it is a beast. It has surprising top end power for a V-Twin. If that gives you an excuse to take it for another test ride or two, than win-win!
I am doubting between buy the monster 1200 standard (with additional quicksifter) and the mt10, which would you buy for daily use, routes and some circuit entry?
@@blockchainshark1392 yeah if a guy tunes it maybe...lol there are how many videos showing the tuono has a higher top end? Yeah the KTM's twin has better low end for its also got more weight to move.. Lol if you read the spec sheets? The speed triple has a high top speed than both lol
@@jace2wheel762 beside 1/4 mile professional racers I don't know any normal rider who cares about top end. What fun is top end. There is a reason all bikes are moving towards torque now. Nobody wants to drive over 100 mph and if they do it's only a couple times. Hitting a rock, potholes or fallen mufflers on the road at 150mph is the end of your life. I don't drive at a maintained track and I highly doubt you do either so what's the point when you really think about real world practicality All the fun is between 0 to 60 mph and some spurts up to 100mph.
@@jace2wheel762 and if you want to talk about weight I don't know what spec sheet you using but the 1290 is roughly the same weight with more upgrades mechanically, electronically and with almost 1/3 more power. The spec sheet I seen was a 2020 Tunono = 448 dry 123 hp 75 torque KTM 1290=416 dry 180hp 103 torque (wow) I get your a tuono fan boy but if we just talk facts for everyday drivers and specs the KTM dominates EVERY category
Something not covered here is fuel economy. With the always increasing price of fuel it would have been nice to know the difference. I own a 2018 MT-10, and know for a fact that the KTM Super Duke can get 3 times the distance on a full tank. Yamaha you have made one of the worst bikes on fuel.
This is some really good info I'm torn between the mt-10 and super duke right now but fuel economy is important to me for those long weekend touring rides
@@tpartridge10 I was having trouble deciding between the superduke and mt 10 until I looked up the insurance for both bikes and the duke was hundreds of dollars more per year than the mt 10 which pretty much negates any money you'd save on gas!
Thanks, Ted! We have to admit that we chose our favourites from what our brands have to offer and, considering what they're offering, we do get bikes that are at or near the top in their respective fields. Now, if we were to extend an offer to a bike we do not have immediate access to, the Tuono would be on the top of the list!
We certainly can't comment on behalf of everyone else but we know that we are big fans. Our boss has his choice of bikes in the shop to pick as his personal demo and last year it was the CB1000R with an Arrow pipe - it was the total package! We weren't yet carrying the street models for Honda when this video was shot or it would have definitely been featured.
@@apexcycle1481 I havent ridden the newer generation, but I have a 2013 with a yoshi. I love it. Might not be the fastest, but its fast enough and a ton of fun. I would've bought a sport bike if I wanted to be the fastest.
With the S model being the more recently refreshed Monster model, we had chosen it as our demo model that year and therefore it was available for our video. You are right though, the R model is the machine to compare.
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Yamaha MT10 has one of the most unique and polarizing appearances in the sport naked world.
Commentator: "I wish it didn't look so generic."
I keep waiting for the drag race
So many people get hung up on the objective specifications of a bike, when it's the subjective points you just talked about that really tell the true story. I wish all bike journalists were that honest.
That 1290 looks super mean
I didn’t know Tony Hawk was a motorcycle aficionado
I have a first gen fz1 in black, a 2000 monster 900, and I just got a '15 1290. Couldn't be happier :)
Now that is a garage to be envious of! Given what I have seen of those first-gen FZ1 models (being surprisingly comfortable powerhouses), let me guess: 60000 kms (37000 miles)?
Cool
Talking about how much he likes Ducati in a KTM hoodie...music when showing the SuperDuke is twice as loud as the music for the other bikes in the video.
Dave is a true motorcycle aficionado - no brand barriers for him! 😁
Another great Video, i am stoked to see the follow up shootout! Keep up the great work Boys!
Great video. I have to say though. I owned an FZ-09 for many years, just sold it and am looking to buy another one. I’ve ridden the FZ-10 and really liked it, but I’m just not enthralled to step up to it. I was able to test ride the 1290 at your dealership this past summer, I was very excited as it’s been my dream bike for the past couple years. However to my dismay I was EXTREMELY underwhelmed with the 1290, maybe my opinion would change if I owned it as a daily bike. But I felt like all the money was spent on the toys and gimics on the bike, and it left me feeling very disconnected riding it.
However, I forgot to mention, it is still the sexiest, cleanest looking, meanest sounding machine.
That is interesting - you may be right that a little more saddle time might help. It is a cool bike in the fact that, if you are riding with traffic, it rides smooth and is not demanding. Wick it up when things open up and that is where it is a beast. It has surprising top end power for a V-Twin. If that gives you an excuse to take it for another test ride or two, than win-win!
Where is the shootout vid please ?
I am doubting between buy the monster 1200 standard (with additional quicksifter) and the mt10, which would you buy for daily use, routes and some circuit entry?
The M10 cheaper for services
This would come down to ride position and feel for me.
Great Video guys!!
hey come on, you are already wearing a KTM jacket lol.
They don't have Aprilia Tuonos in Canada?
They do. But itll smoke all of these hands down
@@jace2wheel762 lol no. The KTM is WAY beyond
@@blockchainshark1392 yeah if a guy tunes it maybe...lol there are how many videos showing the tuono has a higher top end? Yeah the KTM's twin has better low end for its also got more weight to move..
Lol if you read the spec sheets? The speed triple has a high top speed than both lol
@@jace2wheel762 beside 1/4 mile professional racers I don't know any normal rider who cares about top end. What fun is top end. There is a reason all bikes are moving towards torque now. Nobody wants to drive over 100 mph and if they do it's only a couple times. Hitting a rock, potholes or fallen mufflers on the road at 150mph is the end of your life. I don't drive at a maintained track and I highly doubt you do either so what's the point when you really think about real world practicality
All the fun is between 0 to 60 mph and some spurts up to 100mph.
@@jace2wheel762 and if you want to talk about weight I don't know what spec sheet you using but the 1290 is roughly the same weight with more upgrades mechanically, electronically and with almost 1/3 more power. The spec sheet I seen was a 2020
Tunono = 448 dry
123 hp
75 torque
KTM 1290=416 dry
180hp
103 torque (wow)
I get your a tuono fan boy but if we just talk facts for everyday drivers and specs the KTM dominates EVERY category
Something not covered here is fuel economy. With the always increasing price of fuel it would have been nice to know the difference. I own a 2018 MT-10, and know for a fact that the KTM Super Duke can get 3 times the distance on a full tank. Yamaha you have made one of the worst bikes on fuel.
This is some really good info I'm torn between the mt-10 and super duke right now but fuel economy is important to me for those long weekend touring rides
@@tpartridge10 I was having trouble deciding between the superduke and mt 10 until I looked up the insurance for both bikes and the duke was hundreds of dollars more per year than the mt 10 which pretty much negates any money you'd save on gas!
@@rustcohle6248 it was the opposite for me the mt-10 was crazy high for insurance. I even had geico quote me like $5k for the mt-10.
Always look forward to your videos, great job as always, but....No Tuono? A best of the rest shakedown I guess ;)
Thanks, Ted! We have to admit that we chose our favourites from what our brands have to offer and, considering what they're offering, we do get bikes that are at or near the top in their respective fields. Now, if we were to extend an offer to a bike we do not have immediate access to, the Tuono would be on the top of the list!
I wonder why nobody likes the cb1000r?
We certainly can't comment on behalf of everyone else but we know that we are big fans. Our boss has his choice of bikes in the shop to pick as his personal demo and last year it was the CB1000R with an Arrow pipe - it was the total package! We weren't yet carrying the street models for Honda when this video was shot or it would have definitely been featured.
@@apexcycle1481 I havent ridden the newer generation, but I have a 2013 with a yoshi. I love it. Might not be the fastest, but its fast enough and a ton of fun. I would've bought a sport bike if I wanted to be the fastest.
Should have been a 1200 r monster
With the S model being the more recently refreshed Monster model, we had chosen it as our demo model that year and therefore it was available for our video. You are right though, the R model is the machine to compare.
No speed triple or Tuono....lol wonder what the reason is hahaha
Um, it was availability, not bias - honest!
SDR 1.0 looks 100x better than 2.0
Right back to the 990 SDR, or do you mean the first version of the 1290 SDR?
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Fun fact : actual winner was Z1000
We have yet to ride the Sugomi-styled newest model - have you tried it? We would love to!
@@apexcycle1481 no I also haven't tried her, well just a Kawasaki fan boy here.😛
Yamaha is ugly, should have stay with FZ1 look.