Just my take ,but "Tombstone" and Kurt are #1, Henry Fonda at #2, Burt Lancaster #3 and Kevin Costner comes in at #4. I rate the films in the same order. However I like Kirk Douglas as "Doc" and have him at "# 2 behind Val .Randy Quaid and Victor Mature are #'s 3 and 4.
I thought Michael Biehn's portrayal of Johnny Ringo was worthy of an Oscar too. I always love seeing Buck Taylor too in any role; he's a hugely overlooked and underappreciated talent. I loved him as Turkey Creek Jack Johnson in Tombstone.
Doc Holliday ALWAYS steals the movie. The inherent doom and tragedy makes the character compelling. Kirk Douglas stole it from Burt Lancaster. And Victor Mature stole it from whoever.
I actually love the movie Wyatt Earp because they focused on the history. I like that Costner’s performance was based on playing Wyatt as a broken man and that formed the basis of friendship between Doc and Wyatt. Not taking away from Denis Quaid as Doc, but Val Kilmer killed it in Tombstone. I mean he has some of the most quoted lines in modern film history! I mean come on with the way he said “I’m yo huckleberry” was just awesome. If I could put Kilmer in Wyatt Earp, it’d be cool. But these two movies I love regardless of their faults. I watch them for the entertainment. 🤠
The quote by Lawrence Kasdan in the video explains perfectly why Costner's portrayal of Earp is the one of the most underrated and underappreciated performances in movie history.
Costner and Quaid were the most historically accurate. Tombstone gave you more the dime store novel version of Earp. Kilmer's Holliday was great, but somewhat cartoonish. Quaid's violent, emaciated, hard drinking Holliday was more like the real Doc.
Correct. No one ever described either Earp or Doc as charming. Tombstone does restore Virgil to his proper place. My Darling Clementine ludicrously kilss Virgil and James(?) as killed before the gunfight and has Old Man Clanton (???) present at the gunfight. Powers Boothe is the definitive Curly Bill and the shooting of Fred White is portrayed correctly (looking at you Wyatt Earp) but ignores that Fred White said it was an accident as the reason that Bill was freed for a stupid little speech by Wyatt. Both Russell and Kilmer do give very good performances if not accurate, but that is what audiences want.
Kurt Russell was the best portrayal of Wyatt Earp. The movie Tombstone was more about the town. Costner's movie, while far more historically accurate, was more about the man.
Just hearing the authenticity of Kilmers southern accent,in and of itself,should have won him the academy award.and a master performance should have solidafied it.
I liked both Costner's and Russell's roles equally. I do think, IMHO, that Dennis Quaid's portrayal of Doc Holliday was worthy of a Best Supporting Actor nomination, and was more accurate as to appearance and mannerisms of the real Holliday.
Val Kilmer had relatives from Georgia. He grew up knowing that culture. I would say Val's was more accurate. When you grow up in that culture, you know it's history.
I think Michael Bien should have played Doc Holliday, he's from Alabama. I can't really think of an actor that resembles him physically. Maybe Clint Eastwood comes close. But, I have a cousin who looks a lot like him. He was a mean little piss ant at times also. :D
Costner was the best at playing Wyatt Earp, an underrated performance; and the film itself ably captured the darkness of being a gunfighter/outlaw/ lawman in the Old West.
For me Tombstone felt like a music video. The Costner version, gritty and dark, felt much more real. I know this is an unpopular opinion, but I stand by it.
You totally skipped Bruce Boxleitner in "I Married Wyatt Earp," with Marie Osmond. His portrayal was surprisingly good, better than I would have expected. But I have to go with Kurt Russell as the best. He looked like Wyatt, and he acted like I believe Wyatt acted. I don't remember which film it was, but one of them had Doc Holliday as a surgeon, rather than a dentist. And the way Costner's film portrayed the Vendetta Ride was terrible! Great video!
Coster and Dennis Quaid were the most historically correct Earp and Holiday, but Tombstone was way more entertaining and 100 times more historically correct as to guns, clothes, sets, language, etc.
@@Guvrunner key word legend which means myth which is what you got with Val and Kurt historically accurate means just that and that is what you got with Quaid and Costner
@@richardblais5232 the reviewers are right they said Legend which means Myth not facts Costner and Quaid played their roles Factually not Legend wise like Tombstone which is why i rather watch Wyatt Earp
Growing up, I was obsessed with Val’s portrayal, but these days, I’m almost sick of people talking about his iconic performance as Doc. EVERYONE in that movie was awesome. Also, how can you say Henry Fonda was the best Wyatt Earp when his depiction has almost no resemblance to the real Wyatt?
I pretty much have to agree with this presentation. I happen to love the older westerns since they're what I grew up on. Kurt Russell was good and, of course, Kilmer's Doc was Oscar worthy. But John Ford's My Darling Clementine was the beginning of the movie Legend.
@Marlon Bradbury There are very few movie "critics" that are worthy of the title "movie critic." It may be the most historically inaccurate one of the bunch.
@Marlon Bradbury And there lies the problem with the Movie industry, they are more into creating myth than with respect to real historical figures. Then end result is that they perpetuate ignorance and bias. Good directing can effectively honor the facts and still be entertaining.
@Marlon Bradbury We are communicating past one another. Robin Hood is completely fictional. Wyatt Earp and others are real persons whose lives have real entertainment value, even if one restricts themselves to the factual historical framework. Far too many today in Hollywood use movies about historical figures to promote falsehood and misinformation for financial gain and political influence. That is propaganda at its worse because they feign "it's all about entertainment" while trying to mislead large amounts of people. Too deny this reality is fruitless. We don't need to lie about or mislead others about real historical figures to entertain "the masses." So hey, it's your list, make a margin movie that twists the historical facts and promotes a myth about Wyatt Earp your top choice--it's your channel. As with the press so with Hollywood: "Print the legend." Just don't pour water on my boots and try to convince me it's raining. lol.
Kevin Costner best role is Wyatt Earp. He doesn't try to get you to like him, think he is funny with clever zippy lines, everything in that movie is grinding, hard, bitter, loss. Nothing comes easy, not money, not friends, relationships with woman , a great movie about a legendary but extremely flawed man. Tombstone Earp and Holiday feel like they are at a Disneyland version of the West. Everything is easy, everyone is having a good time, characters have amazing one liners and talk with the bad guys like its a game where we already know the outcome.
Your rating of the roles focused on the acting and direction, but did NOT mention the writing. For me, it was the writing of Tombstone that made it so compelling. In Wyatt Earp, the dialogue seems unpretentious, but also uninspired. I mean, the battle of Latin dialogue between Doc and Ringo was VERY inspired. As for Val, I am still looking for my huckleberry.
@@jhaibel Of course not. These are movies, not documentaries. I mean all of the movies about this elevate Wyatt Earp and his family to near sainthood, while the Clantons and Ringo are depicted as being near demonic. I suspect in reality, they were all pretty good but pretty rotten people all at the same time.
My Darling Clementine is one of my favorite movie for years it was my favorite movies. However the portrayal of the gunfight was ludicrous at best. It would take a tv show “The Life and Lgend of Wyatt Earp to portray an accurate version of the gunfight at the OK corral although there version of the aftermath and court trail was way off of real life events, and the show was cancelled before they could tell of the Vendetta ride. I saw Hour of the Gun when it was first released and thought it was boring after a recent viewing I was more upset by the producers claim that it was a true account, what a laugh there was very little that was true. However I loved Tombstone, and Wyatt Earp and occasionally watch the first half of Wyatt Earp and the Tombstone. Sometime somebody will make a movie about the vendetta ride from the death of Old man Clanton to the Death of Curly Bill Brocius. You know every movie leaves out that Bat Masterson was in Tombstone and left to return to Dodge right before the Shootout. Guess you can’t include everything, but it is one hell of a good story. Thanks for the video Steve
I personally loved "Tombstone." That cast was amazing. In Kevin Costner's version titled "Wyatt Earp", he was decent as Earp. The film was ok. It showed some of Wyatt Earp's darker behavior, and early years. Most other films were mediocre, if not awful. No film has accurately depicted the Earps and the legend.
well you can't have both Legend is made up stories and Accurate is Historically correct the closest to Historically Accurate is Costner's version and the closest to Myth / Legend is Kurt's version
Russell hands down and even accurate to a degree. Costner is always grandiose in his roles....feeds his ego. The original script writer of Tombstone was fired right before filming. Russell used all his savvy and influence to keep the movie afloat. The original script was said to be historically accurate, but too painfully detailed/cumbersome for shooting a movie. We'll never know...ironic that Kilmer tried to be Wyatt later on. His rendition of Doc Holiday in Tombstone will never be excelled. Was never a shoot out at the OK Coral...it was near a Chinese laundry. Nobody ever seems to want to get that correct.
Shootout at the Chinese Laundry just doesn't seem as good. It would be like changing "Jump the shark" to Fonzie switching from the James Dean windbreaker to the leather jacket.
@@Daniel-ng7oe Agreed, but the danger in that is historical inaccuracy. Given Hollywood's penchant for complete historical inaccuracies, it just fans the fires.
@Daniel Stetson If you read different historical accounts, you'll see mention of the Chinese laundry....even a drawn map. I would guess that Kilmler's rendition of Doc was probably a bit grandiose, but it's become iconic. In real life Doc was probably more a drunken mumbler, but definitely a stone cold killer when he needed to be. Wyatt on the other hand made statements publicly that have been corroborated by various witnesses.
Kurt Russell is my favourite of the modern Wyatt Earps. However 'My Darling Clementine' is a great Hollywood Classic. As well as Henry Fonda's performance you have a career best performance from Victor Mature and the normally garrulous Walter Brennan is wonderfully restrained and sinister as Old Man Clanton. The regular Ford stock company actors all give good performances. The black and white cinematography is a work of art in its own right. Ford and his cast and crew made a piece of American mythology with 'My Darling Clementine', who can ever forget the church dance scene?
All reports has Tombstone as the best and most accurate depiction of that memorable moment in the Wild West history books! When people talk about the story of Wyatt Earp, they refer to TOMBSTONE, not Wyatt Earp....It's not even close!!!
Kevin Costner. Love him or hate him. But his Wyatt Earp was amazing. That movie showed him as a realistic anti-hero, and had an overall story arc that was epic in scope.
This is not correct The OK Corral scene in My Darling Clementine is awful. The shoot out lasted less than a minute and the protagonists were within feet of each other. It was not a prolonged gunfight. It was over quickly. Go to Tombstone and see where the gunfight took place and see that the shooters were within feet of each other. Please don’t believe everything you see or read on TH-cam or the internet.
I guess the best portrayal is not synonymous with the most accurate portrayal. Although I enjoyed "Tombstone" a little a little more, I think Costner's "Wyatt Earp" was the more accurate of the two.
There's a newspaper article that describes Wyatt Earp from that period. I would say Kurt Russell comes close to the physical description. Including the warm smile.
If I had to pick my favorite earp portrayal as far as learning about him and watching as close to an accurate telling of what happened as possible...itd be costner. BUT as far as entertainment..Kurt Russel and Val Kilmer in Tombstone! I'm a history nerd so I loved Costner's version cuz of the accuracy and how they start the movie when hes a little boy and go through his whole life.
The best and most entertaining of the movies, is of course, "Wyatt Earp" with Kevin Costner. Anyone who says differently has no taste and shouldn't be doing critiques of movies. Costner's portrayal of Earp was excellent and as you said covered all the stages of his life. I know people like "flash" and witty dialogue, but Dennis Quaid's portrayal of Doc Holiday was also the better rendition of the character as a real person, not the "clown" that Kilmer made out of the role. Art is supposed to mirror life, and the movie Wyatt Earp does that. If you studied the race to make the movies you would realize Kurt Russell's panic to get Tombstone out ahead was just a money making ploy, and it worked. If you are going to be a movie critic take the time to do the job right.
Historical accuracy would show Wyatt Earp and his brothers closer to being lawbreaking roughneck bully thugs rather than resembling any kind of hero. That said, Tombstone was my favorite but I get why you chose "My Darling Clementine" for number one.
I like Costner's "Wyatt Earp" storyline the best, but for just pure entertainment "Tombstone" is the final nail in the Wyatt Earp cinematic coffin. Who could ever make a better movie about the Earp family or Doc Holiday? If I were a movie director or producer I would do a "Cowboy's Tombstone" movie portraying the Clantons and Cowboys perspective of the same story...
Wyatt Earp lived in Monmouth, IL as a boy, Hugh O'Brien who played Earp attended the former Roosevelt Military Academy in Aledo, IL about 30 miles North of Monmouth. John Wayne met the real Wyatt Earp as a young man when he went to California and became friends with him. Wayne's grandpaprents, the Morrisons, farmed near Little York, IL just West of Monmouth and are buried there. Small world isn't it?
1994 Wyatt Earp was the best Wyatt Earp film in my opinion. While the cast wasn't the best the story and actual events were. Val Kilmer was the best Doc Holiday ever but its a toss up to me for Earp. Russell and Costner nailed the role, tombstone had the better cast but the facts abd actual depiction was lacking. Both great movies and my top 2. I'm a history nut so for me Wyatt Earp is #1 Tombstone #2.
Yeah Kurt Russell was the best lighter and Val Kilmer was the best Doc Holliday even though all the other films gave it a good effort they were the best
Legend grows when facts are absent. Hollywood knows entertainment and historical accuracy is just a tumbleweed in the wind. Still, gotta love Val Kilmer as Doc.
Only portrayals ive seen were costner and russell, between the two im leaning towards kurt. i think they both do a good job even though both took a different approach to the part and their films are both entirely different
Movies are stories - which is good and fine. On exactly what basis can anyone tell what a "good" or "bad" portrayal of Wyatt Earp or any other historical figure who passed before they themselves were filmed? On what criteria can one base a judgment of how Julius Caesar was played? George Washington? Joan of Arc? Either you were entertained - or you weren't - none of us has a way of knowing ...
in 'Hour of the Gun' (1967)James Garner in the lead is overlooked because of films that came out since, which I understand. but he lives to see his brother's killers dead!!! and that's apparent on his face when he massacres Steve Inhat. even DOC (Jason Robards)tells him he's being bloodthirsty to a fault. but Wyatt don't want no lectures on vengeance. even from Holiday.
just remembered, Garner played Earp twice. in '88, he starred w/ Bruce Willis as Tom Mix on an HBO film where he actually did go to Hollywood as a consultant on the old West. it's more light entertainment than 'Hour of the Gun.'
You overlooked the best Revisionist Western of the Earp legend...WARLOCK. Based on the Oakley Hall novel. Henry Fonda plays Clay Blaisdell. Who is essentially Wyatt Earp.
Wyatt was on set with Ford while shooting Clementine. Ford even said of the shootout "thats how Wyatt told me it happened", that was also portrayed in the Sunset. To be fair, in his later years, Wyatt was known to "embellish"
@Douglas Davis yes i misspoke, he wasnt on that set, but Earp was a consultant on several Ford films, & he told & drew out the Shootout, which Ford used in Clementine. Hence him saying "thats the way Earp told me ig happened"
As far as I’m concerned and Wyatt Earp movie is not accurate without Josie Marcus cause just as Earp was alegendRy lawman; their Romance was a Great Love story
Casey Teferteller's book on Wyatt was a very thorough telling of Wyatt's entire life through historical records and old interviews even of actors like marion morrison/John Wayne and Hugh O'brien. There are so many accounts of Wyatt's personality that never made it to any movie. For instance, Wyatt once walked into a gunfight and yelled at everybody for shooting like shit. He would pull the rifle aimed at him out of a man's hand and then cuss him out for disturbing his breakfast. He would often stun people and diffuse a tense situation with a unique charm and wit. Not just with pistol whipping. The shootout with curly bill was actually more intense and a little comical. So after reading that book I think Kurt seriously looked the part but made Wyatt look like an insensitive asshole with Maddie and into a wuss with Ringo.
Frankly (pun intended) that was a 13 minute waste of video asking the equivalent of who played the best Rhett Butler. I don't give a damn, there was only one...Thank you Kurt!
And now for some trivia. Two actors who both played Wyatt Earp in separate films appeared together in a movie. Who were the actors and what was the movie? Hint: It's not a Western.
As well as Kilmer played the role of Doc Holliday, I still prefer Quaids version. It's a toss up for me between Wyatt Earp and Tombstone. They are both very entertaining movies.
Anyone old enough to have seen 'My Darling Clementine' with some degree of maturity, and then 'Tombstone' & 'Wyatt Earp', could recognize these are three perspectives for the story; no such person (not character) is one dimensional. An actor assumes the one he can portray, the director what he collects and relay, the writer on his collection of material and state of comprehension. So, to get a handle on Earp, it's best to not just watch but observe all three presentations; likely more than once.
Tombstone was a great movie as far as entertainment value, but Costner's Wyatt Earp was a better version as far as depicting history accurately, and Dennis Quaid 's Doc Holliday was incredibly accurate as a man with tuberculosis would be. Val Kilmer's Holliday with the great lines was excellent entertainment and so much fun to watch. I really think both movies are excellent in their own right.
It is rumored that John (Dodger) Wayne met Wyatt Earp as a young stuntman and stole all of Wyatts mannerisms, characteristicks and personality. Therefore the scene in TOMBSTONE where Kurt shoots Stillwell is the closest ever on screen. The cadence in "Hells coming with me!" (speech) is $pot on.
The original Star Trek did its version of the Gunfight, and apparently some historians felt it gave a fairly accurate version of Wyatt. My memory is that most of the participants were just shadowy figures and doesn't follow the actual historical facts, but the Metrons ARE drawing from Kirk's memory, which isn't always any better than Shatner's..... And then, we have the TV series, where I heard that Hugh O'Brien's interpretation was pretty close (absent Wyatt's mustache), but then, the series takes its influences from Stuart Lake's "biography," which most people now think is a piece of utter crap.
Who do you think was the best Wyatt Earp?
Kurt Russell by far
Kurt Russell, hands down.
The 'real' Wyatt Earp? Costner. On screen performance, Kurt Russell. Same goes for Holliday. Quaid was Doc, Val Kilmer played Rhett Butler.
Just my take ,but "Tombstone" and Kurt are #1, Henry Fonda at #2, Burt Lancaster #3 and Kevin Costner comes in at #4. I rate the films in the same order. However I like Kirk Douglas as "Doc" and have him at "# 2 behind Val .Randy Quaid and Victor Mature are #'s 3 and 4.
I loved wyatt earp with Costner, but Russell and kilmer utterly nailed it!
Kurt Russell & Val Kilmer nailed their roles...especially Val Kilmer - he should have won an Oscar for his portrayal of Doc Holliday.
Kurt Russell then Hugh O Brien
I thought Michael Biehn's portrayal of Johnny Ringo was worthy of an Oscar too. I always love seeing Buck Taylor too in any role; he's a hugely overlooked and underappreciated talent. I loved him as Turkey Creek Jack Johnson in Tombstone.
@@bassmangotdbluz3547 Agreed...100%!
No duo was even close. They both hit grand slams.
Man val kilmer looks more like virgil earp!
Tombstone is my all time favorite movie and has been OVER 20 years.
Tombstone may not be historically accurate but it elevates the story into an incredible legend.
Ironically there's a quote in "Wyatt Earp" that states "The stories are always better." Seemed fitting.
Don`t care what anyone else says, Tombstone is the best movie about this time period.
nah ... not as historically accurate than Wyatt Earp ... I know you don't care what anybody else says, but I'm telling you anyway ...
long on style, short on history. great movie.
I think Tombstone is the best version of the iconic lawman. As good as Kurt Russel was I think Val Kilmer stole the show as Doc Holiday.
Doc Holliday ALWAYS steals the movie. The inherent doom and tragedy makes the character compelling.
Kirk Douglas stole it from Burt Lancaster.
And Victor Mature stole it from whoever.
Kurt Russell's mustache alone puts Tombstone at the top!
wrong hat though ...
Whenever Doc Holliday is mentioned, I can’t help but hear Val Kilmer saying, ‘I beg to differ sir’ or ‘I’m your huckleberry’.
I have to disagree with number one. Though it’s a good portrayal, I think Kurt Russell in Tombstone was masterful.
Kurt Russell the best in my opinion…..
I actually love the movie Wyatt Earp because they focused on the history. I like that Costner’s performance was based on playing Wyatt as a broken man and that formed the basis of friendship between Doc and Wyatt. Not taking away from Denis Quaid as Doc, but Val Kilmer killed it in Tombstone. I mean he has some of the most quoted lines in modern film history! I mean come on with the way he said “I’m yo huckleberry” was just awesome. If I could put Kilmer in Wyatt Earp, it’d be cool. But these two movies I love regardless of their faults. I watch them for the entertainment. 🤠
For sheer entertainment, hard to beat Tombstone, but for historical accuracy, Kevin Costner/Dennis Quaid nailed it.
Kurt Russell, Val Kilmer and ALL of that Tombstone cast was the best.
The quote by Lawrence Kasdan in the video explains perfectly why Costner's portrayal of Earp is the one of the most underrated and underappreciated performances in movie history.
Costner is the best by far. Russel is second.
Quaid is also best by far.. Val second
Costner and Quaid were the most historically accurate. Tombstone gave you more the dime store novel version of Earp. Kilmer's Holliday was great, but somewhat cartoonish. Quaid's violent, emaciated, hard drinking Holliday was more like the real Doc.
Correct. No one ever described either Earp or Doc as charming. Tombstone does restore Virgil to his proper place. My Darling Clementine ludicrously kilss Virgil and James(?) as killed before the gunfight and has Old Man Clanton (???) present at the gunfight. Powers Boothe is the definitive Curly Bill and the shooting of Fred White is portrayed correctly (looking at you Wyatt Earp) but ignores that Fred White said it was an accident as the reason that Bill was freed for a stupid little speech by Wyatt. Both Russell and Kilmer do give very good performances if not accurate, but that is what audiences want.
Costner and Quaid were epic in the film "Wyatt Earp"; truly underrated.
Costner and Quaid were definately the best. I don't like the film "Tombstone". It's like a cartoon. "Wyatt Earp" is better.
And apparntly all versions of Wyatt talk too much
How do you know?
It's Tombstone by a mile for me.
Kurt Russell was the best portrayal of Wyatt Earp. The movie Tombstone was more about the town. Costner's movie, while far more historically accurate, was more about the man.
It also showed how he tried to keep the family together. Loved the scene with the pool ball too!😆
Just hearing the authenticity of Kilmers southern accent,in and of itself,should have won him the academy award.and a master performance should have solidafied it.
"Historically Accurate" according to the Lies and Bullshit of Wyatt Earp ..
Wyatt Earp with Kevin Costner was the best. Dennis Quaid also.
Second was Kurt and Val.
Kurt and Val made a cute movie ... entertaining but does not even shine the shoes of Coster's Earp ...
@@richardblais5232 agreed.
It was the testosterone Ego version while the Costner one was the gritty true masculine one.
Duty over showmanship.
I liked both Costner's and Russell's roles equally. I do think, IMHO, that Dennis Quaid's portrayal of Doc Holliday was worthy of a Best Supporting Actor nomination, and was more accurate as to appearance and mannerisms of the real Holliday.
Val Kilmer had relatives from Georgia. He grew up knowing that culture. I would say Val's was more accurate. When you grow up in that culture, you know it's history.
I think Michael Bien should have played Doc Holliday, he's from Alabama. I can't really think of an actor that resembles him physically. Maybe Clint Eastwood comes close. But, I have a cousin who looks a lot like him. He was a mean little piss ant at times also. :D
Grunge: The list of The Best Wyatt Earps.
Me: Kurt Russell! DUH! How is anyone else mentioned on this list?!
Without even looking, Kurt Russell for Wyatt and Val Kilmer to Doc. PERIOD.
No one will ever dethrone Kurt Russell.
Costner was the best at playing Wyatt Earp, an underrated performance; and the film itself ably captured the darkness of being a gunfighter/outlaw/ lawman in the Old West.
Bull shit, Tombstone with Kirt, and Val was the BEST Earp movie, it was BRILLIANT, one of the BEST Westerns every made!
For me Tombstone felt like a music video. The Costner version, gritty and dark, felt much more real. I know this is an unpopular opinion, but I stand by it.
You totally skipped Bruce Boxleitner in "I Married Wyatt Earp," with Marie Osmond. His portrayal was surprisingly good, better than I would have expected.
But I have to go with Kurt Russell as the best. He looked like Wyatt, and he acted like I believe Wyatt acted.
I don't remember which film it was, but one of them had Doc Holliday as a surgeon, rather than a dentist.
And the way Costner's film portrayed the Vendetta Ride was terrible!
Great video!
Tombstone is my all-time favorite movie. Val Kilmer is brilliant as Doc and Kurt is by far the best Wyatt Earp.
I have the director' s cut of Tombstone and I love it, often.
Definitely
Coster and Dennis Quaid were the most historically correct Earp and Holiday, but Tombstone was way more entertaining and 100 times more historically correct as to guns, clothes, sets, language, etc.
Most reviews of the 2 movies have Tombstone as the most accurate betrayal of the Earp/Holiday legend ever made, including the shootout!
@@Guvrunner no Costner’s got it right doc was hit at the corral, the corral was only 15 feet wide between to buildings
@@Guvrunner reviews don't mean shit ...
@@Guvrunner key word legend which means myth which is what you got with Val and Kurt historically accurate means just that and that is what you got with Quaid and Costner
@@richardblais5232 the reviewers are right they said Legend which means Myth not facts Costner and Quaid played their roles Factually not Legend wise like Tombstone which is why i rather watch Wyatt Earp
James Garner as Wyatt and Jason Robards as Doc both did a great job.
Hour of The Gun!
Definitely Tombstone...nothing else is even close.
Kurt Russell and Val Kilmer played their parts as well as they can be. Dana Delaney was just gorgeous!
Growing up, I was obsessed with Val’s portrayal, but these days, I’m almost sick of people talking about his iconic performance as Doc. EVERYONE in that movie was awesome.
Also, how can you say Henry Fonda was the best Wyatt Earp when his depiction has almost no resemblance to the real Wyatt?
How can you leave out Hugh OBrien's portayal of Wyat Earp on TV. Hugh was a former marine who was a true tough guy. (and so handsome)
Very well done and very close. He portrayed Earp as a non-drinker. Earp had drinking problems when young and as a lawman never drank
Kurt Russell and Val Kilmer hands down the best
I pretty much have to agree with this presentation. I happen to love the older westerns since they're what I grew up on. Kurt Russell was good and, of course, Kilmer's Doc was Oscar worthy. But John Ford's My Darling Clementine was the beginning of the movie Legend.
Wyatt Earp is by far my all time favorite hands down. I saw Tombstone once, that was enough. I'm stuck on Wyatt Earp it was full. Beginning to end.
Same. I don’t really care for Tombstone
Tombstone with Val Kilmer and Kurt Russell #1
"My Darling Clementine" number 1? You have got to be kidding.
I hated that movie nowhere should it be on the list.
@Marlon Bradbury There are very few movie "critics" that are worthy of the title "movie critic." It may be the most historically inaccurate one of the bunch.
@Marlon Bradbury And there lies the problem with the Movie industry, they are more into creating myth than with respect to real historical figures. Then end result is that they perpetuate ignorance and bias. Good directing can effectively honor the facts and still be entertaining.
@Marlon Bradbury Wow, you really believe that? That sounds like a great definition of propaganda.
@Marlon Bradbury We are communicating past one another. Robin Hood is completely fictional. Wyatt Earp and others are real persons whose lives have real entertainment value, even if one restricts themselves to the factual historical framework. Far too many today in Hollywood use movies about historical figures to promote falsehood and misinformation for financial gain and political influence. That is propaganda at its worse because they feign "it's all about entertainment" while trying to mislead large amounts of people. Too deny this reality is fruitless. We don't need to lie about or mislead others about real historical figures to entertain "the masses." So hey, it's your list, make a margin movie that twists the historical facts and promotes a myth about Wyatt Earp your top choice--it's your channel. As with the press so with Hollywood: "Print the legend." Just don't pour water on my boots and try to convince me it's raining. lol.
Kevin Costner best role is Wyatt Earp. He doesn't try to get you to like him, think he is funny with clever zippy lines, everything in that movie is grinding, hard, bitter, loss. Nothing comes easy, not money, not friends, relationships with woman , a great movie about a legendary but extremely flawed man. Tombstone Earp and Holiday feel like they are at a Disneyland version of the West. Everything is easy, everyone is having a good time, characters have amazing one liners and talk with the bad guys like its a game where we already know the outcome.
Your rating of the roles focused on the acting and direction, but did NOT mention the writing.
For me, it was the writing of Tombstone that made it so compelling.
In Wyatt Earp, the dialogue seems unpretentious, but also uninspired.
I mean, the battle of Latin dialogue between Doc and Ringo was VERY inspired.
As for Val, I am still looking for my huckleberry.
did it actually happen that way?....probably not
@@jhaibel Of course not. These are movies, not documentaries. I mean all of the movies about this elevate Wyatt Earp and his family to near sainthood, while the Clantons and Ringo are depicted as being near demonic.
I suspect in reality, they were all pretty good but pretty rotten people all at the same time.
@@jhaibel A lot of the dialog in Tombstone, especially in the fight scenes, were historically documented.
I have three of the other versions but Kurt Russell is best by far.
My Darling Clementine is one of my favorite movie for years it was my favorite movies. However the portrayal of the gunfight was ludicrous at best. It would take a tv show “The Life and Lgend of Wyatt Earp to portray an accurate version of the gunfight at the OK corral although there version of the aftermath and court trail was way off of real life events, and the show was cancelled before they could tell of the Vendetta ride. I saw Hour of the Gun when it was first released and thought it was boring after a recent viewing I was more upset by the producers claim that it was a true account, what a laugh there was very little that was true. However I loved Tombstone, and Wyatt Earp and occasionally watch the first half of Wyatt Earp and the Tombstone. Sometime somebody will make a movie about the vendetta ride from the death of Old man Clanton to the Death of Curly Bill Brocius. You know every movie leaves out that Bat Masterson was in Tombstone and left to return to Dodge right before the Shootout. Guess you can’t include everything, but it is one hell of a good story.
Thanks for the video Steve
Kurt Russell by a country with henry fonda 2nd but what about Will Geer in the James Stewart classic Winchester 73
Too bad so many movies about wyatt and doc have never been seen by the same people who only go by those two movies.
Kurt Russell hands down. He showed Earp's bravery and vulnerability. Kevin Costner comes in second.
I agree 100 %
I personally loved "Tombstone." That cast was amazing. In Kevin Costner's version titled "Wyatt Earp", he was decent as Earp. The film was ok. It showed some of Wyatt Earp's darker behavior, and early years. Most other films were mediocre, if not awful. No film has accurately depicted the Earps and the legend.
Yeah i prefer the more flawed Wyat to the action hero of Russel
well you can't have both Legend is made up stories and Accurate is Historically correct the closest to Historically Accurate is Costner's version and the closest to Myth / Legend is Kurt's version
Russell hands down and even accurate to a degree. Costner is always grandiose in his roles....feeds his ego. The original script writer of Tombstone was fired right before filming. Russell used all his savvy and influence to keep the movie afloat. The original script was said to be historically accurate, but too painfully detailed/cumbersome for shooting a movie. We'll never know...ironic that Kilmer tried to be Wyatt later on. His rendition of Doc Holiday in Tombstone will never be excelled. Was never a shoot out at the OK Coral...it was near a Chinese laundry. Nobody ever seems to want to get that correct.
Shootout at the Chinese Laundry just doesn't seem as good. It would be like changing "Jump the shark" to Fonzie switching from the James Dean windbreaker to the leather jacket.
@@Daniel-ng7oe Agreed, but the danger in that is historical inaccuracy. Given Hollywood's penchant for complete historical inaccuracies, it just fans the fires.
@Daniel Stetson If you read different historical accounts, you'll see mention of the Chinese laundry....even a drawn map. I would guess that Kilmler's rendition of Doc was probably a bit grandiose, but it's become iconic. In real life Doc was probably more a drunken mumbler, but definitely a stone cold killer when he needed to be. Wyatt on the other hand made statements publicly that have been corroborated by various witnesses.
Kilmer's 'Billy the Kid' is overlooked, but I think it's the best. Paul Newman was great , but a little old at 31. 'the Kid' lived to 21.
Credit to the producers of this video
This one is well organized and informed
Very unusual for these " list " videos
Kurt Russell is my favourite of the modern Wyatt Earps. However 'My Darling Clementine' is a great Hollywood Classic. As well as Henry Fonda's performance you have a career best performance from Victor Mature and the normally garrulous Walter Brennan is wonderfully restrained and sinister as Old Man Clanton. The regular Ford stock company actors all give good performances. The black and white cinematography is a work of art in its own right. Ford and his cast and crew made a piece of American mythology with 'My Darling Clementine', who can ever forget the church dance scene?
All reports has Tombstone as the best and most accurate depiction of that memorable moment in the Wild West history books! When people talk about the story of Wyatt Earp, they refer to TOMBSTONE, not Wyatt Earp....It's not even close!!!
Tombstone #1 hands down!!!
Kevin Costner. Love him or hate him. But his Wyatt Earp was amazing. That movie showed him as a realistic anti-hero, and had an overall story arc that was epic in scope.
Kurt Russel is my favorite..ijs
This is not correct
The OK Corral scene in My Darling Clementine is awful. The shoot out lasted less than a minute and the protagonists were within feet of each other. It was not a prolonged gunfight. It was over quickly. Go to Tombstone and see where the gunfight took place and see that the shooters were within feet of each other. Please don’t believe everything you see or read on TH-cam or the internet.
I guess the best portrayal is not synonymous with the most accurate portrayal. Although I enjoyed "Tombstone" a little a little more, I think Costner's "Wyatt Earp" was the more accurate of the two.
you forgot Star Trek's version of the OK Corral story
Which for some reason made the cowboys the heroes.
That was a great episode on Star Trek
I read that Wyatt Earp's description of the Gunfight at the OK Corral was used by Ford to shoot the scene in My Darling Clementine.
The Kevin Costner Wyatt Earp movie is one of my favourites
Gunfight At the OK Corral with Burt Lancaster and Kirk Douglas is one of my favorite westerns and has my favorite Earp/Holiday characters.
Southern Comfort -- My favorite also especially Kirk Douglas as Doc Holliday June 30,2021
There's a newspaper article that describes Wyatt Earp from that period. I would say Kurt Russell comes close to the physical description. Including the warm smile.
Costner's version was best hands down. Killer/Russell was a live action cartoon poorly slapped together to best Costner's movie to the theaters.
If I had to pick my favorite earp portrayal as far as learning about him and watching as close to an accurate telling of what happened as possible...itd be costner. BUT as far as entertainment..Kurt Russel and Val Kilmer in Tombstone! I'm a history nerd so I loved Costner's version cuz of the accuracy and how they start the movie when hes a little boy and go through his whole life.
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I liked Hugh O'Brian in the Shootist.
The best and most entertaining of the movies, is of course, "Wyatt Earp" with Kevin Costner. Anyone who says differently has no taste and shouldn't be doing critiques of movies. Costner's portrayal of Earp was excellent and as you said covered all the stages of his life. I know people like "flash" and witty dialogue, but Dennis Quaid's portrayal of Doc Holiday was also the better rendition of the character as a real person, not the "clown" that Kilmer made out of the role. Art is supposed to mirror life, and the movie Wyatt Earp does that. If you studied the race to make the movies you would realize Kurt Russell's panic to get Tombstone out ahead was just a money making ploy, and it worked. If you are going to be a movie critic take the time to do the job right.
Nothing like a pretentious person thinking their opinion is superior to everyone else's . LOL !
Historical accuracy would show Wyatt Earp and his brothers closer to being lawbreaking roughneck bully thugs rather than resembling any kind of hero. That said, Tombstone was my favorite but I get why you chose "My Darling Clementine" for number one.
I like Costner's "Wyatt Earp" storyline the best, but for just pure entertainment "Tombstone" is the final nail in the Wyatt Earp cinematic coffin. Who could ever make a better movie about the Earp family or Doc Holiday? If I were a movie director or producer I would do a "Cowboy's Tombstone" movie portraying the Clantons and Cowboys perspective of the same story...
My Darling Clementine was an interesting movie, but Tombstone wins hands down.
Great video but I must correct you. Sunset 1988 was NOT a tv movie. It was a theatrical release. And one of my favorite movies.
"Tombstone" was the best... Entire cast and movie... :)
Wyatt Earp lived in Monmouth, IL as a boy, Hugh O'Brien who played Earp attended the former Roosevelt Military Academy in Aledo, IL about 30 miles North of Monmouth. John Wayne met the real Wyatt Earp as a young man when he went to California and became friends with him. Wayne's grandpaprents, the Morrisons, farmed near Little York, IL just West of Monmouth and are buried there. Small world isn't it?
Bottom line: Earp and Wayne never met. Their encounter is only a charming Hollywood fable.
@@billnelson8384 OK, I'll take your word for it, they never met. Happy? Doesn't alter any of the rest of what I posted.
@@billnelson8384 Proof?
1994 Wyatt Earp was the best Wyatt Earp film in my opinion. While the cast wasn't the best the story and actual events were. Val Kilmer was the best Doc Holiday ever but its a toss up to me for Earp. Russell and Costner nailed the role, tombstone had the better cast but the facts abd actual depiction was lacking. Both great movies and my top 2. I'm a history nut so for me Wyatt Earp is #1 Tombstone #2.
Yeah Kurt Russell was the best lighter and Val Kilmer was the best Doc Holliday even though all the other films gave it a good effort they were the best
Legend grows when facts are absent. Hollywood knows entertainment and historical accuracy is just a tumbleweed in the wind. Still, gotta love Val Kilmer as Doc.
Many great Doc Holiday portrayals by many : Kirk Douglas , Val Kilmer , Dennis Quad
I live about hour away from Tombstone and here we love Kurt Russell
Only portrayals ive seen were costner and russell, between the two im leaning towards kurt. i think they both do a good job even though both took a different approach to the part and their films are both entirely different
Just finished watching tombstone
Now I'm here in the TH-cam comments section.😅
Movies are stories - which is good and fine. On exactly what basis can anyone tell what a "good" or "bad" portrayal of Wyatt Earp or any other historical figure who passed before they themselves were filmed? On what criteria can one base a judgment of how Julius Caesar was played? George Washington? Joan of Arc? Either you were entertained - or you weren't - none of us has a way of knowing ...
No honorable mention for Fred Ward in "Four Eyes and Six Guns"?
in 'Hour of the Gun' (1967)James Garner in the lead is overlooked because of films that came out since, which I understand. but he lives to see his brother's killers dead!!! and that's apparent on his face when he massacres Steve Inhat. even DOC (Jason Robards)tells him he's being bloodthirsty to a fault. but Wyatt don't want no lectures on vengeance. even from Holiday.
just remembered, Garner played Earp twice. in '88, he starred w/ Bruce Willis as Tom Mix on an HBO film where he actually did go to Hollywood as a consultant on the old West. it's more light entertainment than 'Hour of the Gun.'
You overlooked the best Revisionist Western of the Earp legend...WARLOCK.
Based on the Oakley Hall novel.
Henry Fonda plays Clay Blaisdell. Who is essentially Wyatt Earp.
Costner Garner Russell
Actually tombstone took so many liberties with the truth that it may as well have been animated
Good movie
Costner may not be better but his movie was
Wyatt was on set with Ford while shooting Clementine. Ford even said of the shootout "thats how Wyatt told me it happened", that was also portrayed in the Sunset. To be fair, in his later years, Wyatt was known to "embellish"
@Douglas Davis yes i misspoke, he wasnt on that set, but Earp was a consultant on several Ford films, & he told & drew out the Shootout, which Ford used in Clementine. Hence him saying "thats the way Earp told me ig happened"
As far as I’m concerned and Wyatt Earp movie is not accurate without Josie Marcus cause just as Earp was alegendRy lawman; their Romance was a Great Love story
Casey Teferteller's book on Wyatt was a very thorough telling of Wyatt's entire life through historical records and old interviews even of actors like marion morrison/John Wayne and Hugh O'brien. There are so many accounts of Wyatt's personality that never made it to any movie. For instance, Wyatt once walked into a gunfight and yelled at everybody for shooting like shit. He would pull the rifle aimed at him out of a man's hand and then cuss him out for disturbing his breakfast. He would often stun people and diffuse a tense situation with a unique charm and wit. Not just with pistol whipping. The shootout with curly bill was actually more intense and a little comical. So after reading that book I think Kurt seriously looked the part but made Wyatt look like an insensitive asshole with Maddie and into a wuss with Ringo.
It's a common plot for films. "High Noon" and "High plains drifter."
Tough call between Hugh O'Brien and Kurt Russell!
Tombstone all the way and at #2 Wyatt Earp with Kevin Costner.
Kurt Russell was the best with Costner as #2.
Frankly (pun intended) that was a 13 minute waste of video asking the equivalent of who played the best Rhett Butler. I don't give a damn, there was only one...Thank you Kurt!
And now for some trivia. Two actors who both played Wyatt Earp in separate films appeared together in a movie. Who were the actors and what was the movie? Hint: It's not a Western.
Kurt Russell hand's down. No one comes close. Val Kilmer killed it as Doc, however Kirk Douglas comes in a distant second.
As well as Kilmer played the role of Doc Holliday, I still prefer Quaids version. It's a toss up for me between Wyatt Earp and Tombstone. They are both very entertaining movies.
Anyone old enough to have seen 'My Darling Clementine' with some degree of maturity, and then 'Tombstone' & 'Wyatt Earp', could recognize these are three perspectives for the story; no such person (not character) is one dimensional. An actor assumes the one he can portray, the director what he collects and relay, the writer on his collection of material and state of comprehension. So, to get a handle on Earp, it's best to not just watch but observe all three presentations; likely more than once.
Tombstone was #1.
Tombstone was a great movie as far as entertainment value, but Costner's Wyatt Earp was a better version as far as depicting history accurately, and Dennis Quaid 's Doc Holliday was incredibly accurate as a man with tuberculosis would be. Val Kilmer's Holliday with the great lines was excellent entertainment and so much fun to watch. I really think both movies are excellent in their own right.
It is rumored that John (Dodger) Wayne met Wyatt Earp as a young stuntman and stole all of Wyatts mannerisms, characteristicks and personality. Therefore the scene in TOMBSTONE where Kurt shoots Stillwell is the closest ever on screen. The cadence in "Hells coming with me!" (speech) is $pot on.
5:56,NANCY KELLY not nancy gates
U forgot Spectre / Gun (Star Trek)
The original Star Trek did its version of the Gunfight, and apparently some historians felt it gave a fairly accurate version of Wyatt. My memory is that most of the participants were just shadowy figures and doesn't follow the actual historical facts, but the Metrons ARE drawing from Kirk's memory, which isn't always any better than Shatner's.....
And then, we have the TV series, where I heard that Hugh O'Brien's interpretation was pretty close (absent Wyatt's mustache), but then, the series takes its influences from Stuart Lake's "biography," which most people now think is a piece of utter crap.
Spectre of the Gun. Star Trek TOS. Loved Ron Soble as Wyatt Earp. Scary as hell when I was a kid.