Henry Rollins & Pantera Talk About Kurt Cobain - April 1994
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- Comments from Michael Stipe and Eddie Vedder about a week after Kurt's death. Next both Henry Rollins and Phil Anselmo / Vinnie Paul from Pantera surprise us with some very insightful words about Kurt. This upload was very popular on a different channel but it was taken down for several reasons. I plan on keeping it here as long as they let me Please feel free to comment and share so as many fans as possible get to see it.
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Phil said exactly the truth. They didn't like the pressure they had, imagine how it was for Nirvana...
Jorge Leitner as I got older I started getting out of my metal phase and transitioned to more punk and pre punk music such as the velvets and the dolls but being a native Texan I always loved pantera and this interview just confirms it
@richardschiffman6418what good is paying the bills when you can never live a normal life without being recognised ever again
Addiction is a mental illness from birth 100 percent but very selfish of them to have a child
Pantera and Nirvana, two of my all-time favourite bands. What Phil said about Kurt was very respectful and I agree
Big Pantera fan here. Phil was so true.
I bet ur metal friends will disown you if you admit you like nirvana.
@@inutero10 Haven't had an issue with that yet
@@romangagne5842 when you do, tell them to f off.
@@inutero10 i'm pantera fans
I don't hate or love nirvana.
Is it safe?
Fuckin' awesome of Phil Anselmo to stand up for Kurt this way. He and Henry were always the real deal, and they showed compassion when so many other musicians like Ted Nugent tried to act like tough guys and insult a dead singer. Nugent wouldn't have lasted a second toe to toe with Phil at any age.
Would love to see phil dropping ted nugent
We're not in need of someone getting their arse beat...but more of the character of their words
*i was super disappointed by nugents 'words' 🥀
He was a true arse for what he said!
Not.cool.
Lmfao Ted wouldn't last 5 seconds in the ring with Phil.
Henry Rollins And Phil Anselmo Would Kick Ted Nugents Ass
@@jacksongoolsby552just give him 5 minutes alone
as soon as the 80s ended Henry turned from an angry edgy guy into a really chill dude.
Because he was more old and mature
@@edybocman76 older. He was only in his 30s then. Now he's old
He was still pretty brutal through the 90's just more reserved on subjects he didn't know much about rather than having an opinion on everything
Yeah true, now he's on Joe Rogan's podcast talking about intermittent fasting haha.
@@komfykoala6083 It was what Black Flag fans were waiting for ha ha
This definitely shows the soft side of Phil,he really understood Kurt,an honest view Phil
I like what Phil had to say about Kurt, it's very easy and sometimes too easy to pass judgement on someone when you don't understand what their going through. None of his truly know what Kurt was going through and never will, we have our theories but that's about it
I really appreciate what he's saying here. Very sensible.
he said some very insightful things
You shouldn't judge him cause he didn't commit suicide.
The bitch had him killed.
Jimmy Saboter we know that now this was back In 94 plus there Was no investigation it was ruled the same day as a suicide :/
Yeah bit his shirt sucks
Well said Phil.
You can't judge the man. You never lived a day in his shoes.
+Calvin Lala Its walked a mile in his shoes dummy
*It's
I like people who don't judge
me too
I don't so fuck you
it was his life, let him be
I just people who don't like
I don't like people who judge
This is pretty surprising. Henry and Phil look like the type of guys that would have said, " he should have maned up and not killed himself" glad to see they're more empathetic about the situation.
They are both far more deeper than that. Never judge a book by it´s cover...
Phil said it well!
It's always kind of touching when a really hard dude shows some compassion and understanding for a sensitive and somewhat divisive situation.
Yes it is
uhuhuh, you said really hard dudes... uhuhuhu
@@ChaseThePinballWizard uh huh huh huh
@@ChaseThePinballWizard Butthead.
I love Phil mans got a huge heart and speaks truth in the best way
Pantera is fucking groove... and I always thought Pantera were bigger and still do
The Night Stalker pantera definitely wasn't bigger. google how many albums sold it's not even close
they are actually defined as post-thrash. Mid tempo with a thrash edge...
All these stupid sub-genre's make me laugh. I've been listening to music for decades and I've never seen anyone in this so called "groove metal" genre other than Pantera. How is it a genre with ONE band? I always considered them a thrash metal band with an actual unique style. Or better yet, just a badass METAL band that didn't limit themselves to a genre.
Then you have someone like Metallica who is thought of as a thrash metal band, yet hasn't played thrash metal since the 1980's. They've been NOT thrash much longer than they were thrash.
I agree with the guy above me. Pantera were thrash metal, which is speed metal, but with a Southern twist. Groove metal is a retarded fake genre.
MTV when it was the real deal ..
hah no MTV sucked then too
Casey Barlow
It was a mixed bag up until 1995. You had Nirvana, GnR, Metallica, REM, Pearl Jam, AiC, Soundgarden, NWA, Tupac, Public Enemy, Jane's Addiction, Pantera, etc. on one hand but Mariah Carey, Michael Bolton, poodle hair bands, Vanilla Ice, Ace of Base, etc. on the other. But I'd say overall MTV was decent up until the end of grunge, at which point 75% of the channel wasn't even music-based in the first place.
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MTV has *never* been the "real deal."
My respect for Phil went up multiple notches 👏
nice to see Phil and Vinnie there
Yeah, fucking bittersweet
So true what Henry said...Kurt was an artist and a sensitive one at that , wish people were kinder to Kurt 😞
If not for that there wouldn't be any nirvana
love pantera..those guys are so real. RIP Kurt
Cool words from Phil.
Phil Anselmo's speaking voice sounds so different there than it does now. His voice is SO much lower now it's unreal!
Lots of drinking smoking and drugs did that. But I will follow him to the end of the earth no matter what.
+Kendall2001 I think the screaming has a lot to do with it well. I notice singers that perform a lot, especially in the rock/metal genre, they're voices tend to lower progressively more than the average person.
Casey Byrom nothing to do with screaming. Everything to do with hard drugs. His mind cant make his words come out as fast as they should
Years of heroin thats why he speaks alot slower as well.
Then add Smoking, alcohol hectic tour schedule fpr years amd years
He has really damaged his voice bad. But the man is a LEGEND, was an amazing singer is an.amazing lyricist ans above all the Frontman for PANTERA and DOWN. This man has died 2x over come addiction the loss of 2 bandmates several lawsuits,bad press. But still keeps kicking ass! The Vulgar album is one of the BEST metal albums EVER This man has nothing more to prove to anyone.
Thank You Pill Anselmo u will always be "The Kid" lol
God, I lived for MTV when I was a kid. I'm 40 now, so I am "MTV Generation."
Jason Peter's same. MTV from 1991-1995 was great
Vinnie said the exact truth. Nobody did know what he went through
Yeah, people seriously need to stop calling suicide "the coward's way out." It just comes of so callous and smug. You don't know what other people feel.
This is the smartest thing Phil ever said.
He talk some shits sometimes, but think about the lyrics that he wrote in pantera...
Really? You should check out more videos of him, there are quite a few where he talks about different topics and man he shows quite an interesting opinion or point of view, most on which I agree (Loyola University interview is quite good to watch for instance)
Phil was a straight poet when it came to the writing of Pantera's lyrics.
Phil has some really cool moments and he's te guy I wan to like but he just comes across as such an arrogant prick in more things than he doesnt. Loyola Uni vid is really interesting btw. Definately worth a watch, great inspiration not to get into hard drugs.
it was smart for sure, but Phil has said a boatload of intelligent things over the years. are you "triggered"?
Nice to see Henry giving a tidy explanation for Kurt's death. Twenty years pass by and when Robin Williams checks out, he pens a 1000 word article that's basically "fuck suicide".
I wish that MTV news was like this today.
Wise words from Phil.
Gotta love how MTV sort of slides in courtney loves album pitch in the midst of everything ....very very sneaky....
"Mass acceptance".. damn that is brutal
I was 22 yrs old and remember this interview like it was yesterday. It was like the music had died. But oh what a time to be alive and to witness that whole musical revolution back then. And everything since has just been copied. Nothing seems original anymore. I think a big part of who I am is still stuck in the 90s. The music was definitely a gamechanger!
Pantera is speed metal now? :<
Could swear there was a poster with Rollins and Anselmo.....but maybe my head made it up because sometimes Phil reminds me of Henry.
Well hello there you again
@@velizarzhelev6552 Yoyo
In 1990 they were considered a thrash speed metal band. They later became more a groove metal band.
@@Danjoker. Glam metal til 1990...changed 1992.
@Varla Yeah, but their style was very special.
Thanks for the upload, stuff like this is important for people to have access to.
Henry Rollins always keeping it real
Speed metal band?
lol loder also called them rapcore in another video...hahaha
Loder sucks
lmfao!!!!
I was 16 in April 1994. Nirvana was our religion. Pearl Jam too.,I was so upset when I heard Michael Stipe say "he was talking Cobain about doing somethimg.." Uggh! !! REM+Nirvana? We really missed out
Thanks for uploading these interviews. The set behind Henry Rollins during his interview piece, looks like it was shot on the set of the movie Johnny Mnemonic.
You knew whenever there was breaking news on MTV with Kurt Loder, YOU KNEW it wasn't good.
lol did they actually blur out _'from hell'_ on Vinnie's shirt?
middle america!
Haha yea wow I noticed that so stupid
Yeah...and not Phil's shirt though.
Henry seems like smart dude
Nice shirt Phil..... You put things into prospective about Kurt
2:23 a random plug for Hole's new album?
Can u believe MTV blurred out HELL on -Vinnies- oops I'm sorry Mr. Abbott's shirt?
Darrin Connor yes, but instead they didn't blurred the apartheid logo on Phil's shirt. makes you think...
True Story:
Courtney was crushed by his suicide. At the vigil she told the audience: "I don't know what happened guys, but the new HOLE record will be in stores next week"
Lmao did she really? I've listened to the vigil but I don't remember that.
Ahhh the days when MTV wasn't totally worthless.
RIP to Dime, Vinnie, and Kurt.
Very cool of both Rollins and Anselmo.
But I could have gone the rest of my life without knowing that there was a potential REM/nirvana collaboration that we never got to see... oh man... how awesome would that have been?...
Makes sense I like all four front men
Kurt just died, and their interviewing fellow musicians on his death, followed directly by a promotion for Courtney love's new album...
memories....
Came for dime but OK Phil still spoke the truth
Man, MTV had not only music...but some semblance of journalism and music critique back in the day. My, how things have changed...
When MTV was a real music video channel , they blow ass now days'' :[) LoL and Kurt did create the path for a lot of bands.
that's because there was real music back then
@@user-gs3yl5sx4x There still is. You just need to look for it.
Good stuff from Phil. I think Pantera could have really done some kick-ass versions of Bleach songs if they wanted to; Floyd the Barber, Paper Cuts, Negative Creep, etc.
Look how bad those graphics are behind curt on the green screen, but back then it was cutting edge. AOL forever baby!
Henry and Phil are probably two of the baddest asses to ever rock the mic.. huge amount of respect for Kurt Phil and Hank.. but we all know Courtney had Kurt killed.
Why is everyone assuming it to be a suicide. Many sources say that he had 3 times the lethal dose of heroin for a junkie, and couldn't have been functional enough to pull the trigger, the empty shell where it was found also made it virtually impossible at the angle he would have had to pull the trigger, also he was going through a divorce and wanted to leave Courtney and she stood to have a lot to gain by this and was a junkie as well. Her own dad thinks she had somebody else do it. Courtney's hired private investigator also thinks so. A lot of suspensions
Jeff Urschel trust me tolerance can grow to an insane amount. I am an addict and can tolerate enough to probably kill 4 people...tolerance never stops growing and its a sad and scary thing. With his kind of money i have no doubt that his normal dose was enough to kill a horse.
What happened to MTV News?
Dexenation Gracey They replaced it with MTV Porn..
It became SJW propaganda.
3 words The real word
I agree with Phil and Vinnie.Kurt had a lot of problems in his private life including depression and drug addiction.No one should judge him for what he did.
Blurring out "From Hell" on Vinnie's shirt haha
Kurt Loder talks with literally no emotion
Peak newscaster voice
You do realize news reporters are told to be emotionally neutral, right?
ShyGuy83 Kurt Loder did a lot of interviews with Cobain . I know he liked the dude a lot.
I had just turned 18 when this aired.
See metal boys, take a lesson from Phil. You can still appreciate Nirvana and Cobain and still be a heavy metal fan.
Miss MTV like this but now it’s all Netflix and Hulu
MTV used to be so cool
Phil is so real, man.
Exactly. Nobody knows how.he felt.
Kurt was murdered, NEVER forget that!! Courtney
It's never the cowards way out. I drank so much before my planned demise, but you realise it's the hardest way out. Destroying yourself is so hard you wouldn't believe. Stabbing yoursellf whilst drunk on alcohol is fucking hard.
Its crazy that frances bean is now older than kurt cobain was when he died
But then a few months later Pantera had a #1 record with Far Beyond Driven and then they were cast into the spotlight. Phil wasn't ready for that though and he too soon turned to heroin as an escape from the publicity they were getting.
SlasherGuy 82 Phil turned to heroin to cope with the pain of a severe back injury, not because of the pressure of fame.
SLASHERGUY 82 Phil get into drugs not because of fame pressure but because for back pain problems he had. ;)
@@Agent-nw3me that was what kurt claimed too, he said he was battling chronic stomach pain thats why he used heroin.
If you believed phil anselmo, you mighr as welll believe kurt.
Phil shunned away from pantera to ease the pressure, that sort of disbanded pantera. Kurt was on his way to doing what phil did before he killled himself. He wanted to take a break, the difference is kurt had a junkie wife and a bestfriend/bandmate who forced him to have an intervention and undergo a rehab which is the worst thing you can do to a depressed junkie.. It just added a ton of pressure to kurt. They should have just let kurt battle his demons and ease the pressure by just letting him do what he wants,..
Nirvana the legend,peace love from indonesia
When MTV was great & not bullshit
nice
Strange there was in interview where kurt admitted to accepting the rockstar thing before he committed suicide
and live thru this dropped that week ironic lol
Ooh the past.
Jesus fucking Christ, I miss the old MTV, even though I didn't even live in the 90s. I'm not whining that "boo hoo i live in the wrong generation", I just miss the good alternative rock tv media they had.
90's were awesome my dude
I like what Keith Richards said about him right after his death "Well, he would make a lousy plumber" LMAO
Pantera speed metal? Only if you mean low speed.
Pantera were Groove Metal dude.
No shit?! I always thought they were indie folk😒😒😒😒
*****
Hey mate no need to be a snarky dick about it I was just saying.
thinking the same thing too
No they didn't mean physical speed, they meant the drug speed! SPEED METAL MOTHAFUCKAS 🧙🏼♂️
it looked like they cut phil
Damn,both is very sad!:-(dimebag darrel,kurt cobain are both dead!dime darrel was murdered over some bullshit!
not really he was murdered because the guy simply didn't want to take his meds. Still it sucks hes gone.
Fr 1991-95? The news was MTV News..
Da fuck is with the hole
Plug........ no pun intended
I remember when all this actually aired. What a shitty time
Imagine if Phil Anselmo is wearing that shirt today??
Kurt also struggled with the pressures of fame.
They forgot to interview madonna 😏🤘......... ..,
Omg! Phil Anselmo is sober!
Did he just called Pantera a speed metal band
my guy called pantera speed metal...
Phil is the fucking man
That's what it says? do not understand English: (
I remember seeing this on TV. It's kinda sad to think how the world has changed since then. MTV was this cool new thing when I was growing up now it's a fucking joke. The state of music....all of it
kurdt was killed by her!
Most likely
Have you seen that note Kurt had in his wallet when he died, and the Seattle police shown it just few months ago?, yeah makes you wonder about it.
suhijo it have been proved that little note was written by courtney actually
TheDeadUnderground
which one the recently shown or the suicide letter from 1994 ?
suhijo the recent one that was found in his wallet and police didnt reveal the information until a couple of months ago.
Thumbs up- courtney did it.
...Appealing to open minds here.. (no monitization!) We have ALL seen the pic that shows Kurt was murdered.
cant be real.i mean hey 1994 i dont think there was youtube, so its fake...
the did have video tape in 1994
Speed metal band, Pantera.... Yeah, not quite there Kurt Loder....
Did he .. Did he just call Pantera speed metal
Is that a Swastikka ?