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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ก.ค. 2011
- In this documentary - people who have known Kurt as a person talk about Kurt's death, his growin pains, his drug addiction and his legacy.
'Kurt Cobain 1967 - 1994' Kurt Cobain was found dead at his home in Washington Lake in April of 1994. Ex Nirvana drummer Chad Channing and Kurt's biographer Charles R. Cross reflect on the shock of learning about his tragic end. - เพลง
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chad channing never fucking ages.
Unlike Tracy Marander. She has aged a lot!
huge respect for Chad what a cool guy.. huge part of nirvana
Have you heard hus band Before Cars? Just genius.
+Jaime Treviño I love them! :-)
@@jaimeskeleton his other band? I'll check em out
Chad Channing seems like such a genuinely top dude.. Cool, calm, collected & yet with great emotion as he recounts his experiences with Kurt.. His drumming on 'Bleach' is just fabulous.. Dave may have gone in to the history books as 'THE' Nirvana drummer - but that first album was Chad's - 'all the way down the line' .. A great drummer & all round splendid geezer.. Peace !! Rx
He did. Check out these two shows: October 26, 1990-Edinburgh and the next show, October 27 in Nottingham.
Riki Newton Chad is so under appreciated. It's pretty ridiculous
the drums on Nevermind's In Bloom was Chad, too. Dave Grohl gave him credit for it publicly.
It's bullshit his name was not included in the hall of fame 👎
You could tell, Dave, felt guilty, too, because he mentioned that Chad made up a lot of the drum parts during his little acceptance speech.
Chad is a legend no wonder it was so hard for kurt to move on without him
I vote Chad Channing as the best dude ever.
I liked Chad's drumming.Very inventive, unique, almost jazzy, groove.Not a perfect time keeper, or as hard hitting as Dave, but He had his own sloppy, cool,wild style that fit Bleach perfectly!
been a fan since 6th grade. i remember hearing about his death on channel 1 news at school. never seen these interviews before. thanks for posting.
Cobain would probably laugh at the so called experts on his life
i dont think they do it "proactively" they do it because they have been asked for
@@TomatoKing1817 I mean they're not wrong
Haha he would totally take the piss out of all of us for thinking we know everything about him lol x
Ironic
Oh so you think youre an expert on kurt huh? You think you know how he would react?
Chad Channing was the right drummer for the Bleach era and always seems chill asf, he should be in the Hall of Fame rn
Kurt was totally traumatised and as every person with trauma had a fragmented personality - with different parts of his psyche wanting different thing. One part wanted to be left alone, the other part to be famous and well known. Another part being a massive hypochondriac, another one shooting up heroin and making himself sick. One part being interested in anatomy, another part ignoring medical anatomy and destroying his veins and internal organs and brains. One wanting to be all outspoken and punk rock, the other one a total people pleaser. Too many contradictions, totally fragmented personality. He would have needed long-term healing and integration work.
Just read that this guy had a dog "Buster' that'd lay at the kick drum. Buster died so chad had him placed in a casket and brought him to each show. At each show right there in front of the kick was the casket, Chad thought Busters spirit would help him drum a little better.
I still don't understand why we cant have an interview or documentary without Charles R. Cross giving his two cents. He did not even know Kurt (from what I have read).
Something about him strikes me as the guy who just shows up and acts like they know you intimately even though you've never met them in your life. Always a giant red flag. If anything, Michael Azzerad's book was at least approved by the band.
most people who play guitar that i know....have always used Nirvana as a stepping stone on their learning of the instrument.....not because the songs are easy....but because they are great
Kurt had only 2 family members die of gunshot wounds that WERE NOT suicides. He did not commit suicide.
It has been years since the whole "he had relatives who commited suicides" thing got disproven. One accidentally trigger his gun in a bar killing himself (he was a cop) and the other one fell (i think, i don't remember clearly).
So for the "official" biographer to say such stuff it kinda says a lot about his work.
Tracey and Chad were the best. Kurt should have never broke up with her or let Chad leave the band.
You really believe that Dave grohl wasn't a much much better fit for the band?
BeTheDeathOfMe He didn’t want that though. He made his decision to break up with her and fire Chad
Dave was right for his music.
RIP Kurt we love you
kurts uncle's didn't commit suicide, one fell down stairs and the other had a gun accidently discharge.
Chad's cool. I love the drum parts he came up with. But...yeah Dave is so much tighter and aggressive when he plays. Regardless Nirvana wouldn't have been Nirvana without the both of them. In my opinion, anyway.
I mean fact
Does chad ever age ???
No
Yes... this is old as fuck.
CreamOf Weber Dude. Look at some recent videos. He looks the exact same
Hes a magical elf. He is immortal.
@NPC #303 shut up
Gonna read the biography. Thanks!
did charles cross get up and move to another couch?
😂😂😂
I think his ex-girlfreind was actually pretty sweet ya know, he just got stuck with the rock star image "hottie" & got himself a pscho control freak kinda girl. IF she didnt murder him she drove him to suicide, I dont think he would have killed himself leaving his finances undone.....also he was getting his drugs from different people, He didnt know what he was getting & his guard was down. So Sad.
+metal mark Courtney got her claws into him, the only wonderful thing about their relationship is their beautiful/innocent daughter!!!!!
YUp!
What?
I love skipping over Charles' talking. It makes me feel good to ignore him completely lol
Most heartwarming comment here ☺️
another thing to remember is the type of gun used was a remington shotgun(20gauge). The distance from the tip of the barrel of the gun to the trigger, would've made it impossible for kurt to pull the stunt in the first place. Especially for kurt only being 5ft7
Ya especially since "Cali" Michael Dewitt was inside the house and did not hear the shot gun blast.... The babysitter couldn't hear the blast... It's amazing how long kurt lay'd there before the electrician found him..
+Per-Christian Martinussen Yeah, it's absolutely sickening, Courtney, the killer(s) and that assho;$ nanny.........!!!!!!!!!!!
he was murdered 100% EVERYONE KNOWS IT!!!
he was murdered 100% EVERYONE KNOWS IT!!!
@@pcm1997 he was murdered 100% EVERYONE KNOWS IT!!!
I'd listen to anyone that knew kurt talk for hours.. especially krist, Tracy, Dave and Kurt's sister Kim
everyone close to him has said the weeks leading up to his death he was obsessed with courtney cheating on him. he even called their attorney and asked for her to remove courtney from the will and start divorce proceedings but yeah, that's all secondary. okay?
Whered you hear that in the weeks leading up to his death he was obsessed with courtney cheating on him? Im interested to know
It’s on soaked in bleach and kurt and Courtney
1. No fingerprints were found on the gun or "suicide" note.
2. Only the last 3 lines of the note imply suicide and those are the 3 lines experts claim were added and was not his handwriting.
3. Kurt was ready to retire and divorce Courtney days before "suicide".
4. Out of all of Kurt's close friends and family, Courtney is the only person to consider him suicidal. Everyone else claims nearly the opposite saying he was extremely happy in the time leading up to his death.
She was also the only one to claim the March 1994 incident in Rome (about one month before "suicide") was separate suicide attempt. Courtney, Kurt, and Dr. Osvaldo Galletta concluded this to be an accident at the time. Courtney suddenly claims this a "suicide attempt" after his actual death.
4. Toxicology reports show over 3 times the "lethal dose" of herion injected at once (Contradicting how he had time to not only shoot himself but put all of his herion related objects neatly back into a small box. You would be unconscious within about 5 seconds after injection
5. Seattle Police show very little evidence of a suicide, yet publicly announce this case closed as such the very same day. (Even claiming Kurt locked himself inside the greenhouse and later admitted this was false). They made several false reports and won't release pictures of his body besides one of his left arm they just released in 2014.
6. Courtney love had somewhat close relationships with at least two Seattle police department detectives as well as the Medical Examiner who conducted Kurt's official autopsy. That's very suspicious.
7. She was also the only one to claim the March 1994 incident in Rome (about one month before his ("suicide") was a separate suicide attempt. Courtney, Dr. Osvaldo Galletta, and Kurt himself concluded this to be an accident at the time. Courtney claims this a "suicide attempt" after his actual death. She also has several different accounts of what actually happened.
7. Courtney hires a Private Investigator (Tom Grant) April 3, 1994 to find Kurt but already knows where he is according to her and Kurt's friends. She even leads Tom on what he calls a "goose chase" to find him elsewhere. I believe she did this to decrease suspicion of her involvement in Kurt's disappearance.
8. Kurt arrived at Sea-Tac airport around 12:47pm April 2nd, 1994, where he was seen signing autographs. After leaving he mentioned to his taxi driver that he feared for his life while on the way to his home where his death occurred.
9. Kurt and Courtney's close friend Michael "Cali" Dewitt was their "male nanny" at Kurt's home where his death occurred. Kurt arrived on April 2, 1994 meeting "Cali" there. He claims not to be at the house at the exact time of death, then leaves Seattle as soon as Kurt is found refusing any interviews to this day. Courtney also told her private investigator she gave "Cali" $30,000 for "rehab" right after Kurt was found. He never checked in to any rehab that we know of.
10. Courtney's own father says she was involved along with her private investigator and numerous others.
You must be uninformed or just gullible to believe Kurt's official cause of death because I have only "scratched the surface" of evidence in this comment. It would be a lot to read. The ignorance and lack of thought I see, shock me on a daily basis though.
+Dakota Lascola Awesome points for people to soak up (the bleach)!!!!!!!!!!
Dakota Lascola Take your meds.
Stop stop stop...just stop. If you believe that Kurt was "murdered," you clearly know nothing about him or his music.
Dakota Lascola My theory was: his writing was sloppy at the end because he had just taken that dose of heroin and immediately committed suicide thereafter
plus the creditcard,plaintickets,issue,the dealergirl and Pfaffs death
chad looks just like jim carrey
coleman miller and sounds like Steve Buscemi
coleman miller your right he does
I've said the same thing for years!!! LoL!
Chad always comes into the Safeway on Bainbridge Island I work at hes an incredibly kind guy
👍 He seems a really decent guy man.
God tracy chilll girlll , she’s really fast
I've been skeptical of Charles Cross's accuracy -- he's been labeled as a shill for Courtney -- but what he says here echoes my thoughts after doing a lot of research on Kurt Cobain. I think the ‘genetic predisposition to depression’ explanation is as valid as any other. I’m so glad he points out that Kurt worked hard on his plan to become a ‘rock star’ and was fairly sober and sane until the last few years of his life when he used heroin [the ‘gentle, warm, caressing arms’ of heroin, says Russell Brand]. He compares Nirvana’s music to JD Salinger’s writings, lasting, as a ‘stop you make in adolescence,’ youthful rite of passage for generational groups to explain and find truth and meaning in their lives. Which is funny to me because I’m just discovering Nirvana way past my puberty but am feeling like 16 again, CD’s, DVD’s, posters, photo folders, books, interviews. Completely obsessed, no explanation at all why Kurt has struck such a deep chord in me, but I find it quite cathartic to scream along with Kurt on my drive in to work. And he makes me laugh, a lot. I'm glad to hear some sanity in the logical explanations for what happened to Kurt on his journey. Is there more footage of this doc? I feel like Tracy Marander is the godmother of Nirvana, her support helped make it possible for Kurt to blossom, but she gets little credit. [Is it possible to correct the spelling for Tracy Marander's name?] Thanks for posting, Ilse. :>) #nirvanainterview #nirvanadocumentary #talkingaboutkurtcobain
Elena--I feel the same way you do sometimes and I got into Nirvana late too, I missed the early pull (too young at the time). There is something in his persona, music and life-living that tells a great story. Both parts a lesson on how to live and how to be yourself bold, proudly, while being true.
JJ Jamieson Nicely said, thx. :>)
Ilse van den Bosch and +JJ Jamieson It's a good interview. Chad is decent. I'm looking back at what I wrote over a year ago, thousands of hours ago. Kurt still has a hold on me, an influence that I relish and live with on a daily basis. I still find him amazing and an inspiration. :>)
His comparison to JD Salinger is pretty spot on. I like what you said, but I just don't like Charles. He has lied an soooo many occasions.
***** Charles Cross is tricky because he writes and speaks well and is thus convincing in whatever he says.
I'm finding the same complaint with Brett Morgen's Montage of Heck. Morgen has painted an insightful, detailed portrait of Kurt Cobain - and yet comes to some wrong conclusions, in my opinion. An obvious one is he flashes on the screen 3 times that Frances Bean Cobain was born addicted. Her non-addiction has been proven by the doctors' reports, is my understanding. So wtf is going on?? Now the novice Cobainer thinks Courtney addicted her baby!
To date, these two respected reporters seem too close to Courtney, denials notwithstanding, and they have swallowed the Queen of Lies revisionist history. Geez, she contradicts herself on what the "truth" is regarding her husband. He slept under the bridge, really?! Wait, he swallowed 50 -- no, 68? -- rohypnol tablets. :>)
Chat, brilliant Drummer, so creative!!!
drums in Aero Zeppelin were up there all time fav Nirvana tracks for me
That’s dale Crover fRom tHe melvins .
Crover is a beast
Imagine going from sleeping in a hospital waiting room to owning a mansion. Would fuck with anyone's head.
Chad wrote the drum parts for In Bloom, Breed, Lithium, Stay Away, and actually played the percussion part on Polly. Nevermind is almost 50/50 Chad/Dave. Kurt hated Keith Cameron and never met Charles Cross. Two of his "experts" The Everette True biography of Nirvana is the one to buy.....
That so called "music journalist" towards the end said he have seen 13-14 year olds wearing nirvana t-shirt in concerts. He kinda laughs it out cause the kids were not even born during the nirvana era. I say so what? Its music. They were a legendary band.These kind of music journalists are the reason behind todays shitty music industry where a song solely about a girls butt tops the billboard.
THANK YOU!!!
I agree. It would be the same with the Beatles. I was not born in the 60's, but love the music from the Beatles. So am I not allowed to wear one of my t-shirts? Would he laugh at me as if I wouldn't be able to understand the music or have the right to enjoy it?
agreed
agreed
I was 6 nearly 7 when Kurt died. So I was too young to know or appreciate Nirvana. But now I LOVE them! I listen to all their albums, I have a huge canvas of Kurt in my room and I wear Nirvana T Shirts. So for Charles Cross to take the piss put of younger people liking Nirvana is a dickhead move. I think that's why Nirvana are so loved and are still sought after to an extent, because their music and interviews etc are still so brilliant and so relevant. Nirvana spoke to people and they still do.
I have always thought that Chad got the short end of the stick. Seems like a great guy, and hes a nice drummer, but I understand why it had to happen
how many times does chad say "you know" XD
And “well”
I love the way tracy talks
I hate it
@@micaela7159 ok
yes i know Chad...
lollll I love him
He's adorable
I still wish that Kurt would have kept him as a drummer instead of Dave Grohl. Dave is now everything he was against for back in the Nirvana days. Just my opinion.
Petri Rantanen How do you mean?
Petri Rantanen lol. Kurt wanted so bad to be signed to a major label and be famous. Maybe he hated it once it happened but don't act like Nirvana didn't want to be corporate or something.
I'm talking about Dave Grohl as a person. Not whole band or their success. Was lucky enough to actually see them live.
Chad's drumming sucked. I'm not a Dave Grohl fan by any means, but no way Nevermind would have sounded as good as it did with Chad drumming on it. I'd rather them have kept either Aaron Burckhard or Dave Foster over top of Chad.
Petri Rantanen so u don’t like foo fighters music??? If no u don’t and obviously can’t appreciate good music... no matter someone’s personal choice of what they like any true music lover could appreciate daves writing and the songs!!!
My dad was a heroin addict in and out of rehab for the 20 0dd years that I knew him. He once told me that heroin is a drop in the bucket compared to methadone. So I think that the danger of methadone goes way beyond the misconceptions that its safer, I believe that the danger lies in the idea that these people are used to heroin and the dosage strength you can expect from a given amount. the danger occurs when taking the same amount of methadone as one would heroin expecting heroin results.
I think Courtney Introduced kurt to heroin, in the song heart shaped box when he says “forever in debt to your priceless advice” maybe he means courtney told him to use heroin to cure his stomatch pain, this is jusy my opinion but makes sense just like putting together a puzzle
He did heroin before her
"Bands whose music is gone and won't be troubling us again" That guy is speaking the truth there! So many forgetful bands have come and gone in the 23 years since Cobain's death that it's ridiculous.
every video with chad channing's, 1. doesn't age, 2. "you know".
00:07
Correction: Kurt Cobain 1967 - FOREVER
duff mckagan, g n r's bassist beat heroin and alcoholism and was going thru it about the same time kurt was, courtney had sent kurt back to rehab again and he broke out, went on a heroin binge and killed himself about 2 weeks later. but mckagan had some real interesting thoughts about what kurt was going thru, like many rock musicians kurt came from a dirt poor upbringing, he eked out a living and then bam he's wealthy, duff said he new a number of musicians like this who didn't know what to do with the money, they'd buy a big house and then live in one room for months because it was all they knew, and all of the sudden no one knows how to say no to you, you get drugs supplied, you get anything you want... kurt was just 27 and not prepared for this life, he could barely manage the meager existence he had always known.
I lost count of how many times this guy said you know
I noticed those people make exaggerated use of the intercalary "You know" XD (Chad particularly)
Happens a lot in interviews. Especially Metallica interviews lmao
Kurt Cobain reminds me so much of Brian from The Life of Brian.
I guess they do have one thing in common, the are both Messiahs, it's just that Brian is a very naughty boy
either way he's gone and has been for a long time. As Neil Young sang, once you're gone you can never come back
She isn't saying that it's the same thing, she's saying that its just as STRESSFUL. Something can be positive, fun and good but at the same time stressful and draining. Don't judge before thinking.
the day I found out he was dead it felt like I lost a friend he so down to earth he seemed like someone we all know I will always miss him my first tour is next year its called the summer of suicide in honor of kurt cobain
ugh man i remember being young when ridalin first started making its rounds. the most loudest outgoing kids (some were assholes) alot of them were put on it. instead of calming them down and making them behave etc. it seemed to make them just lose their minds more and just become uncontrollable. i took adderall in my late 20s for a 3rd shift job to help me focus, i couldnt even handle it it felt like your on speed all night and have no appetite. and i was like this is similar to ridilan and they gave it to pre-teens? wth
I dont know anything about that but yeah thats awful. It has the opposite effect?
Kurt actually had a lot places to sleep and he had a big family, mom., dad, sister, grandad, aunts, uncles , he also had friends so he chose to isolate himself and live like that.
chad hasn't changed in 20 years
kurt is my guru..I love you kurt forever.you are only the reason why I am passionate about music..and why I learnt music..14 years together with Nirvana music..I wish carry your melody my whole life time my Angel.
...you know?
Is this recent? I understand the video was just uploaded, but I mean the footage . . .
Chad's speaking voice is just like Andy Wood's!!
seriously whats wrong with charles cross.
wow,Chad has aged really well,must be a Nirvana drummer thing :P
Chad = a Kurt / Dave hybrid
Cieran Menzies yes
Chad was a good drummer and a good guy
Imagine being chad channing krist and kurt always jump on ir drum kit
That electrician is a scumbag! Who finds the body of a young musician and contacts a radio station?! You at least wait until the police and coroner etc have dealt with it first! And think of his family ffs! What a disgusting and disrespectful thing to do!
Exactly what I was thinking! Like wtf, why is nobody talking about this???
@@smarkmalark I found out recently that, the electrician who found Kurt contacted his boss. His boss contacted the local radio station boasting that he had the scoop of the century and he will only tell them the story if they gave him some concert tickets!!! Unbelievable!
4:28 it's "Tracy MARANDER."
Chad underrated
Jesus she speaks fast.
Chad Channing
31/01/1967
54 años (55)
You know, Charles Cross would be far less annoying if he wasn't shilling out his book(s) in every interview. You never heard Nirvana, or any good band from the past 20 years saying, "Yeah, in our record that we made a few years back, we have a song dedicated to the premise you just brought up and go out and buy that album now."
me too. I cant see his face anymore.
I felt robbed from an awesome rock band. But at least i got to grow up with foo fighters
Foo Fighters sucks!
LSweet2007 You suck!
Foo fighters are cheesy frat boy rock , fuck them .
maynard nah they sound oretty cool to me. They are just trying to make good music and they do.
What is Chad doing now?
how can you make a documentary, and get the name of the interviewee wrong!
how many times does chad channing say "you know"
you know
What doco is this off??
if your speaking about the incident that happened in Rome, March of 1994, that was already planned out. Kurt knocked out from a combination of alcohol and prescribed drugs. Which by the way he claim he did not place inside his drink. the same pills were found in COURTNEY LOVE's purse. But the police and kurt just overlooked it and ignored it. Also, yes kurt took drugs in 1993 and so on, but he was getting over his addiction by late 1993. He said so himself in december of 1993.
chad is age- less, once people in the far far future forget about nirvana, chad will start another band on a clean slate.
Pretty sure chad is responsible for the drum fills in "in bloom". Cause I saw a video with him in it of that song. Those fills really carve out the foundation of that song. Not totally sure it was him and not Dave but......
Wow Chad hasn't changed a bit
lol definitely *stares at foo fighters poster*
did anyone see how the guy on the couch he switched sides
Nah no one noticed that. Not. One. Person.
Not one.
8:53 : if Biff Tannen and Goldmember had a kid, we'd get this dude. 😊
wat is the name of this Doc?
That bothers the shit outta me, too. But, I can see why, and I think you can, too. It's just .. Kurt was WAY more popular than Layne. Still is.
I love videos like this where you learn little facts from people that knew them. About Kurt sleeping in hallways, sleeping in apartments under construction. I think for some people when you hit rock bottom they never look back and its a turning point in their lives. Others I think it does this sick thing to you to know you are just human trash.
Is Tracy Miranda or Tracy Marander?
Chad is better than Dave period
For me dave is the best drummer on nirvana..because him nirvana popularity up & up as higher than before dave came in nirvana
So did Kurt keep in touch with Chad after he was fired from the band?
i dont think the three Times the lethal dose of heroin theory works. I've been using heroin for years and my tolerance is thru the roof. my lethal dose is different from your lethal dose. i had my best friend die in my arms after doing a fraction of what i did. when you nod out sometimes you wake up with a bit of energy and can smoke and talk and easily pick a gun up and then nod back out for hours. its all so sad but in a weird way it seems like this is how its supposed to be. i kicked heroin a year ago and everyday is misery. he probably felt the same
Totally agree with this. Addicts cld use ten or twenty times an non users dose
"Tracy Miranda" is that a typo?
Yeah
If becoming a millionaire is a stress, I wanna be stressed like that.
This interview was in 2004 according to 10:23..... Damn....The year Dime left us......Sucks.
Look at the case, watch the film called Kurt Cobain: About A Son. Kurt explains how he WAS suicidal and depressed all the time. But after having Frances, his daughter, and realizing how lucky he had it with being a huge Rock star, he was happy and wanted to make changes with his life. By 1993 and early 1994, he wanted no more drama from the media and wanted to quit the music industry. But of course, someone that huge can not simply quit the music industry, so Kurt Cobain was murdered.
Tracy Mirinda
to get away from all the crap that was going on. He wanted help from his family and friends. He even spoke and made phone calls to his family members and friends, but none answered and questioned it. He did though get in contact with his "Best friend". who is in the rock band called Earth. Investigator Tom Grant anda few journalist's believe he had a key role in kurt cobains death and the mystery surrounding it. But who knows.
i love jd salinger