Kurt was not unidentifiable. He shot himself with a low gauge Remington. Many of those who witnessed the body said that they could recognize him, and there was minimal damage.
there is a lot of misinformation shortly after something happens until the facts come out. Think about all the people that 'saw explosions' or 'saw a missile' strike the WTC. Total bullshit, all of it. But the mind can play tricks.
Who in the hell commits suicide with a 20 gauge? I mean, if it was me and my luck, a 20 gauge suicide attempt would most likely have me waking up in a hospital bed missing an eye or ear, but wouldn't get the job done.
What I don’t understand is that if you look at the photo of the shotgun, you will realize that it is far too long for someone to reach out to use their thumb to pull the trigger with the barrel in his mouth. And he sure didn’t use his toes because crime scene photos show him in shoes.
So much of this is just not factual. Kurt was not sitting on a chair looking out the window, nor was the damage from the blast so severe that he had to be identified be fingerprints.
***** A Seattle cop who saw the new pictures released of the crime scene just described it as his hair was blown back and there was slight damage to the eyes, certainly didn't sound unrecognizable.
***** You are a dumbass of the highest order. Someone claiming something no one has seen happen before happening and a cop describing a photo aren't the same magnitude whatsoever, stop being a complete idiot.
***** As promised by Seattle Detective Mike Ciesynski, no photos of Cobain’s body were unveiled. “What are people going to gain from seeing pictures of Kurt Cobain laying on the ground with his hair blown back, with blood coming out of his nose and trauma to his eyes from a penetrating shotgun wound?” Ciesynski asks KIRO 7. “How’s that going to benefit anybody?”
***** I just figured you knew how to use google and could easily validate this claim from the given information like it just took me 9 seconds to do. I'm not used to talking to spastics.
Here is all the misinformation in this clip: 1. Right off the bat, mentioning that his stomach problem lead him to take drugs makes it sound like he killed himself over that. In 1993 Kurt said his stomach problem had been resolved and he wasn’t in pain anymore - here is a link m.th-cam.com/video/hJtm9HomKdE/w-d-xo.html 2. Implying that Kurt had attempted suicide in Rome. It was not a suicide attempt and even the doctor that helped him said so. 3. Kurt didn’t buy the gun - his friend did. He was concerned about safety, not “planning to take his own life” - this is likely also why the electrician who found his body was there to install a home security system. 4. There was no chair. Kurt was found laying on the floor. No chair in sight. There are photos. Unless this was referring to the stool that was said to be propped up against the doors of the greenhouse, but that is also false - the stool was on the other side of the room. 5. The physical damage was not so severe that he couldn’t be identified. That is such a fucking lie! The bullet didn’t even leave Kurt’s head. There was later a claim that he could only be identified by his ID - the story changed again but it was still false. By the way, they hadn’t even checked for fingerprints yet since this was only a week after - they waited like 30 days! 6. Kurt’s mom did NOT file the missing persons report - Courtney did it in his mom’s name. Also, Kurt didn’t exactly “flee”... he just checked himself out. And of course the whole “he committed suicide” is misinformation. Seriously, all but 5 months ago I was a HUGE Courtney fan and defended her constantly. I looked into Kurt’s death to prove all those conspiracy theorists wrong. That’s how I saw the truth. Kurt was murdered. Interesting how the majority of this misinformation comes from Courtney.
WRONG. KURT JUMPED THE FENCE OF THE REHAB CENTER THEN GOT ON A PLANE BACK TO SEATTLE AND HE DIDN'T TELL ANYONE. SO OBVIOUSLY HE DID NOT CHECK HIMSELF OUT OF REHAB YOU FREAK.
Just sad. Depression & addiction are nightmares individually, mix them together with physical chronic pain, fame & wealth & it has to seem like there's no other way out. RIP Kurt
Loved him and loved his music. When I first heard Nirvana I couldn't believe how good they were. Their music, back in the early 90's, sent a shock through your system. They were amazing. They probably were my generations (Gen X) Beatles.
@@enriquepastor3626 Yup they still. It's absolutely incredible. That band is like the band of the century. And it's get to me so much that Kurt, an absolute Icon is longer here with us. I could only imagine what'd he'd be today!
My husband just died of an o.d. If ANYONE dare blamed me, they clearly do not have a clue into any couples secrets and details. Nobody can talk . I feel for her. I found my husband. At first his mother came to our apt screaming at e because she was not allowed up. I couldn't help her. Now she's my mother. U can't judge unless u were at the scene! I knew it was an accident. From the way my husband is, as was later confirmed. U can't judge? Who the hell r u? Did u live with them?
Corinne, I feel for you 100 percent. I think the problem is that Seattle PD did not follow proper procedure. I would hope that the PD where you live took the time to make sure that it wasn't a murder that was trying to be covered up. If there was a weapon involved hopefully it was impounded and checked for prints IMMEDIATELY, not two years after. My professional opinion is that this may have been murder and until this case is reopened and ALL the evidence is put forth there is no way of knowing. Ms. Love was not a caring, loving wife. Read interviews with her before his death. She was horrible to him and was after his money. She even said that she didn't love him like a woman loves a man, she loved him as a "friend". She fell "in love" with his nose. She also had fallen in love with Axl Rose's nose, and she chased after him first. I'm not saying she did anything, I don't know, I wasn't there. BUT I DO KNOW that Seattle PD screwed up, and they don't want to let anyone see that they may have made numerous errors. The police department I was employed with for 17 years does the same thing. They screw up horribly, many times. I actually saw a woman kill another woman, but the officer reporting didn't want to write down what I saw because of the "paperwork". I am embarrassed to say that I didn't do anything about it at the time, because I needed the job. I'm sure it is the same at Seattle PD. I hope you are healing, losing someone you love is so hard.
Off that he says Kurt could only be identified through fingerprints..get Kris Novaselic gave an interview over here with the BBC a while back & described visiting Kurt's body in the undertakers.He said that they'd placed some kind of handkerchief or something across the top part of his head but that he just looked like Kurt sleeping.In fact he said the fact that he just looked asleep shocked him & it was when he held Jury's hand and felt how freezing cold he was that he ended up having nightmares afterwards..the magnitude of what had happened just hit him! Maybe they chose not to embark him & not do too much to his body hence covering his head with a cloth to cover up any obvious damage.Wonder why this reported is saying the complete opposite ???
Courtney actually was A GRIEVING WIDOW AND SHE HAD FRANCES TO TAKE CARE OF. ALSO SHE IS A VERY GOOD AND TALENTED ACTRESS. KURT KILLED HIMSELF BECAUSE HE WAS A JUNKIE DRUG ADDICT WHO DIDN'T WANT ANYONE TO TELL HIM WHAT TO DO. HE WAS VERY IMMATURE
People who don't understand Depression will always say "they had so much to live for, they could've went further, they were so young". Mental illness has nothing to do with any of these things. It's not a logical thing.
"The damage was so severe he could only be identified by fingerprints." Do any research and you will find out that isn't true at all. You could clearly recognize who it was... Just shows media/ratings at the time. Shady..
Honestly, I've got to come back to this at a later date because it's so depressing. I just 'discovered' Nirvana in late Sept 2013 and I'm still in the stages of grief that Kurt is dead. Love #Nirvana, love Kurt #Cobain, am inspired by him, hate that he's gone, however that happened. And as with everything Nirvana/Kurt Cobain, there seems to be at least three versions of anything that they ever did. It's 20 years later and I don't hold much hope for ever finding out the truth. All the evidence is in the wind. I'm heartened that people still hold Kurt and Nirvana in their hearts. Ignore the thumbs down people. #courtneyloveinterview
Remember this all like it was yesterday. It's gross to say, but it's true that Kurt killing himself made Nirvana's music seem that much more legit. He represented all your anger and insecurity and depression and teenage angst, and when he died for it you knew he meant it. Sick, but easy to see why some fans followed suit. I don't think Courtney or anybody killed the guy - that he was suicidal and wanted to die screams at you from every page of his life, every lyric he wrote - i.e. a song called "I Hate Myself and Want to Die," for fuck's sake. Look on the bright side, suicide. Courtney I'm sure was a handful to deal with, quite possibly not the best influence on a suicidal drug addict, and people have always been more than willing to pound her with the "zeitgeist snowball," but did she plot to murder Kurt and frame it as a suicide, I fucking seriously doubt it. Later in my 20's I was with a dude for 3 years, mild drugger and drinker when we met, became a major leaguer as things went on, and things got VERY ugly, I left to save my own life, and 3 months later he hung himself. Honestly kind of a similar arch. His parents blamed me for it at the funeral. Should I have seen and known, fucking of course. Nothing worse than 20/20 hindsight on a suicide. But nobody can really be blamed for somebody choosing to do that to himself. Not even a bitch that everybody hates and wanted to see burned at the stake regardless.
Actually his head and face was still intact. He had a bulge on the right side of his head around his temple, and of course the inside of his mouth was pretty fucked up. He used a Remington 20 guage bird shot.
If Kurt hadn't met Courtney he'd be alive. She was an enabler and force him to do things he didn't want to do, she wanted him to play lollapalooza and he didn't want to play anymore, he needed time off.
Kurt was way into heroin before Courtney entered his life. He didn’t need her encouragement to go down the reckless path he did, and she frantically tried to get him into treatment several times in the lead up to his death. Stop infantilising him by removing all his agency - he was a grown man and made his own choices.
This aired on April 14th 1994, my 3rd birthday....we had MTV and VH1 on in my house all the time when I was a young kid, there is a chance my dad was watching this in real time as it aired, he loves music and loved Nirvana, AIC, soundgarden all of the grunge bands. This just gives me chills like nothing else...
Kurt was a fukking junkie who was fighting with EVERYONE. DON'T BLAME COURTNEY FOR HIS BAD ATTITUDE. HIS RECORD LABEL WANTED KURT TO GET CLEAN BECAUSE HE WAS COSTING THEM MONEY EVERYTIME THEY HAD TO CANCEL TOUR DATES BECAUSE KURT OVER DOSING ON HEROIN ALL THE TIME.
So much of this is wrong. Courtney Love made the missing person report, she wrote it as being from his mother. She was the one saying he was suicidal and all, not Kurt's mom. And he was identifiable by just looking at him, according to first responders.
I feel that part of Kurt's pain was the disillusionment he felt about society and his place in it along with the people around him. Even though he was rich, famous and millions of people heard and loved his music, perhaps he felt they really didn't know or understand him. I think he was right because it all came to the surface after his death. Perhaps suicide was a way for Kurt to take control of his destiny at a time when he felt so out of control. Maybe it was also a statement that people couldn't control him in the music industry or feel like they owned him just because they bought his records. I doubt Kurt would even want people to mourn his death. He left us with some great music and he felt he gave all he had to give and no longer had the energy to go on with his life. Perhaps he also felt his best years were behind him and there was nothing to look forward to and the effects of depression are brutal as well and the hardest thing anyone can deal with because it's so out of their control. Of course this is all speculative but I too am one of those assholes that has their opinion about certain things based on their own experiences, gut reactions or pre-conceived notions.
Kurt was in denial and didn't think his heroin addiction was that bad. You only have to see his last photos while in Europe, with an open sore and looking like death to know he was wrong. He didn't want anyone's help, so there was no other outcome. Sad
Drug dealers wouldn’t let him use in their houses because they were afraid he would die on them, there was one time he OD’ed and they threw him into his car overnight.
Regardless of if you think he killed himself or that he didn't - none of that changes the fact that Courtney is a famous liar. You can't take anything she says as the truth. Why debate words that come out of her mouth? It's pointless.
It's hard not to think it with all the evidence, but it is very hard to grasp that in terms of reality. It doesn't seem real that she would do it. Then you look at all the crazy shit she's done in the past and to other people and you have to be open to the possibility. She's a nutter.
4:15 : at that point, playing the "Unplgged" set on the radio meant playing bootleg stuff :) There were lots of bootleg CDs made from the TV broadcasts in 1994 before the official "Unplugged in NY" album came out at the end of the year.
U gotta remember this was as it was happening, they don't have all the details we have now, internet was not like it is now, no smartphones, different time, anytime something happens alot of the first reports are just what they are hearing
A father would not leave his daughter behind with someone like his wife.. Not at all. People just feed right into the media shit and his wife new that all along..
kurt did not hate nirvana, he was looking forward to the new album, his stomach hadbeen cured and he had frances, he was at his happiest. do your research and you'll know she killed him.
+princess consuela His stomach had been cured? He mentions his stomach issue in his suicide note. "Thank you all from the pit of my burning, nauseous stomach" Also opiate use causes stomach problems and general abdominal pain. I know I used to be addicted to them. That shit can fuck with your head too and you can fall into a deep depression. Get your head out of your ass, the guy shot himself.
+General Marmoset How do you know that he wrote that note at the time he died?YOU were addicted to opiates too?Well why aren't YOU dead?Why don't you learn the FACTS,because the TRUTH is that the information on this newscast which mostly came from Courtney Love has been proven UNTRUE. Kurt Cobain was NOT unrecognizable when he was found,his MOTHER did NOT file the missing persons report,Courtney Love did it in his mothers name,and it's pretty clear that a lot of the original "facts" were total lies .....................................
thats because your a nirvana fan!! his own mother knew he was suicidal..... and had a shotgun. so is she in on it. come off it. he was a genuis.but he was a very tormented man
Jon Williams You don't know the facts-that's not true about his mother-actually Courtney Love ADMITS that SHE filed that missing person report FALSELY in Wendy Cobains name.Kurt mother did NOT file that missing persons report,that was Courtney and thats an established FACT.
There isnt a heroin addict on this planet that can do a ounce of dope a day. It cant be done, I dont care what anyone says about tolerance. UNFORTUNATELY I've been down that road.
@Ovy Licker and ur comment is called....Commenting on something u obviously have never done. Which is good and I don't recommend ever doing it. But u shouldn't comment on something u obviously have no clue about. JS that's all
@Ovy Licker u clearly dont know what ur talking about. Go ask a doctor of theres a difference between eating oxycodone or hydrocodone pills versus shooting dope. U CANNOT SHOOT ANYWHERE NEAR THAT MUCH DOPE IN A DAY, A PERSON WOULD BE LUCKY TO DO IT IN A WEEK.
with a really big tolerance that he probably had its possible to do that much in a 24-36 hour period. Im sure he was shooting up a couple grams every shot.
For her to say that, and then say she cut of a lock of his hair was sickening to me even though it was a lie made me wonder what else she was lieing about
At 14 I didn’t really understand what had happened, in truth I’m still not sure I am any closer to understanding why Kurt did what he did. It’s more upsetting now, with two children of my own and I simply could not imagine leaving them. I will always love Nirvana but just wished that things could have been different and Kurt had been able to access the help and support that he needed. Extremely sad story and really feel for Francis x
"I hate playing with them, I want to play with Michael Stipe" yeah bs, if he hated playing with them so much he wouldn't of been planning another Nirvana album to come out in Jan 1995.
No,not neccessarily!micheal stipe from rem has said that kurt cobain and him were in talks too work were together!but nothing did happen!im stating a fact!
Kurt said in one of his last Interviews: I HAVEN'T WRITTEN ANY NEW SONGS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NEXT FEW YEARS WILL BE LIKE OR WHAT WILL HAPPEN. SO OBVIOUSLY HE WAS NOT DOING A NEW RECORD.
It's impresive, everyone throw shit -many misoginistic crap - to Courtney Love. She is not a saint, that's clear, she had some guilt in Cobain's mental downfall and hard drug use, that's true, but now everyone claims that she is an assasin. "Kurt & Courtney" and "Soaked in Bleach" did the job very well, specially the last one, cause is more "serious" documentary and more believable to people who always was suspicious and always hate her from the begininng. "Kurt & Courtney" was crap, and i know people who believe that he was murdered and said it so. That doc was bullshit, so, they had to do more serious job and came with "Soaked... which was delayed in its release to match with "Montage of Heck", which is not very good. The best documentary for me is "About a Son". Tom Grant lovers gonna hate me and insult me, off course. Cheers.
You should give me the source of that study of the heroin concentration. If you're referring to the study in the Kurt & Courtney documentary its wrong; they later admitted that the study in that movie was actually methadone and it was taken orally, so there is no comparison there. They apologized for the mistake after the movie was released but it was already to late.
back in 1994 i read an article where kurt said he spent about 600 to 700 dollar a day on his habit. i remember reading that it always stuck with me. it also said, "i get ripped off. Drug dealers dont care im a celebrity. I dont get deals." i quoted that, but might not be exact tho its what he said... maybe a few diff words but same thing... so even tho courtney if wrong here cause i cant believe 28grams! but 600 dollars a day is a lot! even at 100$ a bundle.
For the past few days,I've been extremely bothered whenever I listen to nirvana or think of Kurt because I know he's dead but I think someone could've helped or he could've reached out for help and I just wish he was still alive.I literally end up getting upset,sad,and my eyes get watery.Sometimes I question if Courtney murdered him and made it look like a suicide,she was a crazy bitch.
Anna..I' m from England and knew Michelle Harrison AKA Courtney Love from when she came over here to live in the early 80' s ( I was a teen & she infiltrated my friendship group ,we were all in bands in Liverpool) Believe me..apart from her being a self obsessed bore .. NO way was she capable of being instrumental in settling up some sort of elaborate suicide ' hoax'.I' m a true Generation X' er & one thing I know from listening to those first bootleg tapes I got sent from the US of Soundgarden & AIC..and seeing Nirvana play when they were just a support act is that for Kurt & Chris Cornell it was sadly pre-order determined from an early age that their demise would be at their own hand ..lyrically repeated by both men for years . .I used to work in the field of mental health ,I also got a diagnosis once upon a time in the late 90' s of Bipolar after I too took a massive overdose..Leading up to it even though my life was talking apart I seemed ' ok' was laughing & joking..My friend committed suicide 15yrs ago at the age of just 29 ,he'd become a new father & was a great dad..depression doesn't discriminate ,doesn't matter if you're living in the street or a multi millionaire in a rock band..depression KILLS..I cried when Kurt Cobain died ,cried when Chris Cornell died too ( very same day my own father died too 😢) but was I surprised that either had committed suicide...no ,not a tall.Can't believe he's been gone 27 yrs..been dead for the same amount of years he was on the planet ,born in 1967 like me .
Thank u, UNFORTUNATELY I too know that it's impossible to shoot a ounce a day, I dont care if ur a billionaire, u cannot build up a tolerance that high. I'm glad those days are behind me but I KNOW IT CAN'T BE DONE.
Yea, fingerprints, dna? DNA from the cigarette butts that were there? Prints on the shell casing? On his "kit"? Door handles? I think he was scared of something/someone and he went there to get high, forget, chill awhile - think. But I also think somebody, a " friend" was also there with him...he may very well have done lots of H but I think the "friend" shot him while he was fucked up...for CL.. The saddest thing about all of it is the fact that Kurt actually loved that woman! Said it many many times in interviews. You can't help who you fall in love with, too bad he didn't get to sign the divorce papers first... Somebody would have gotten a big surprise ... And that would have been pure Kurt irony. Rip legend ✌💙💫
All I can say is I did a line of heroin once. Never did it before. I cut it out like coke, like an idiot. All I know is I felt like I was getting drunker and drunker till I felt I was gonna pass out. Then I did. Lucky I woke up, cause that's how you die, respiratory depression and such. That was years ago and everytime I hear of H it makes me physically sick. I'd never touch another opiate in my life. Now alcohol, that's a whole 'nother story...
Poor Kurt, people talking about how he used to be, they shouldn't talk about him, i don't think he was himself with most of the people he met. Stop talking about him, stop of making movies, documentaries and books about him, we need to remember him for his music and nothing else
OMG, lady, you sound ridiculous. Yeea, I also have a 28 gram a day heroin habit (sarcasm) HAHA. If someone did they better check their source, probably just a bunch of cut. If you are IVing the heroin, no way can you have a 28 gram a day habit; i'm guessing you must just smoke it. Tolerance doesnt make you invincible. The amount kurt had in his system was 3 times higher then any amounts recorded for even sever addicts. There has never been one documented case that resembles kurts heroin levels.
Honestly I've bet it was very depressing that he died at that time. I would've been depressed also. He wanted to do his own thing but Courtney didn't allow that to happen which that sucks. Honestly it's crazy how everyone was effected by this tragic death. Btw is that MIA at 7:30?
Pretty much. Kurt was in a very severe downward spiral in the last six or so months of his life and was pretty much completely estranged from everyone except his junkie friends and dealers. Krist and Dave didn’t do hard drugs so Kurt had no time for them any more, sadly.
With that much heroin in him he would find it hard to stay conscious let alone get all his ID and everything else laid out neatly. The thing about heroin is when you ain't got any you feel ill and he could have felt suicidal. But when you got heroin you get "on a plain" In his own words, he explains it perfectly. So with all the evidence in soaked in bleach and the lack of evidence available to the public it seems like murder, or a heroin overdose cover up to make sure heroin didn't become more cooler than it was in the train spotting era.
Everything4405 dont listen to that dipshit... he didnt hate black people. many direct quotes where he spoke the exact opposite. "if any of you hate people of different color or women or homosexuals in ANY way please do us a favor: FUCK OFF dont buy our records dont come to our shows!...just FUCK OFF!"
Everything4405 He wasnt racist, and please ignore anybody that is, Anybody that can spew that kind of talk is obviously racist themselves. The kind of people he would of hated would of been BSHIKO.
I agree with you, tho I am not one of those that are convince she did it but I do believe that she had thought about it and even perhaps looked into getting him killed'murdered-- but I think he breast her to it. That's my thinking
I don't understand this to this day, nobody checked his freezing house? His friend Dylan buys him a shotgun, his depressed, recovering friend. Just bizarre
Kurt chased fame very hard in the lead up to Nevermind - was running around LA with Krist getting wined and dined by the big labels, finding lawyers to get Nirvana out of contract with Sub Pop, trying to get a big name to manage the band. This is extremely well documented. Maybe you don’t know as much as you think you do?
Not true at all. I was a bartender at a club in Seattle and when I got hm. I turned on the local news, it was just the beginning of reporting it....that is how all of Seattle found out. That and word of mouth.
"This is one man that will not be forgotten." Ya got that right.
can someone plz tell me the name of the song around 4:18 thats playing in the background?
BlackJack on a plain it’s on never mind
How could anyone forget Kurt? He shined.
dammit kurt... we fucking miss you man.
can't tell if Loder or Cobain...
Kurt was not unidentifiable. He shot himself with a low gauge Remington. Many of those who witnessed the body said that they could recognize him, and there was minimal damage.
there is a lot of misinformation shortly after something happens until the facts come out. Think about all the people that 'saw explosions' or 'saw a missile' strike the WTC. Total bullshit, all of it. But the mind can play tricks.
he didn't shoot himself
You fucking conspiracy theorist infect TH-cam like cockroaches
Michael Milazzo he used a 20 gauge
Who in the hell commits suicide with a 20 gauge? I mean, if it was me and my luck, a 20 gauge suicide attempt would most likely have me waking up in a hospital bed missing an eye or ear, but wouldn't get the job done.
What I don’t understand is that if you look at the photo of the shotgun, you will realize that it is far too long for someone to reach out to use their thumb to pull the trigger with the barrel in his mouth. And he sure didn’t use his toes because crime scene photos show him in shoes.
So much of this is just not factual. Kurt was not sitting on a chair looking out the window, nor was the damage from the blast so severe that he had to be identified be fingerprints.
eddie harman yup
eddie harman total white washing the media
I’m pretty sure they did identify him by fingerprints though.
@@jamieson6449 his Wallet and drivers liscence were laying out right next to him.
@@trentoscar5997 you can’t just assume a dead body is the person who’s wallet is nearby. Look it up. They checked his fingerprints.
"damage was so severe he could only be identified by fingerprints" - complete bullshit
***** A Seattle cop who saw the new pictures released of the crime scene just described it as his hair was blown back and there was slight damage to the eyes, certainly didn't sound unrecognizable.
***** Wow, so pretty much all of mankind's history is irrelevant to you then? I bet that's working out really well.
***** You are a dumbass of the highest order. Someone claiming something no one has seen happen before happening and a cop describing a photo aren't the same magnitude whatsoever, stop being a complete idiot.
***** As promised by Seattle Detective Mike Ciesynski, no photos of Cobain’s body were unveiled. “What are people going to gain from seeing pictures of Kurt Cobain laying on the ground with his hair blown back, with blood coming out of his nose and trauma to his eyes from a penetrating shotgun wound?” Ciesynski asks KIRO 7. “How’s that going to benefit anybody?”
***** I just figured you knew how to use google and could easily validate this claim from the given information like it just took me 9 seconds to do. I'm not used to talking to spastics.
Here is all the misinformation in this clip:
1. Right off the bat, mentioning that his stomach problem lead him to take drugs makes it sound like he killed himself over that. In 1993 Kurt said his stomach problem had been resolved and he wasn’t in pain anymore - here is a link
m.th-cam.com/video/hJtm9HomKdE/w-d-xo.html
2. Implying that Kurt had attempted suicide in Rome. It was not a suicide attempt and even the doctor that helped him said so.
3. Kurt didn’t buy the gun - his friend did. He was concerned about safety, not “planning to take his own life” - this is likely also why the electrician who found his body was there to install a home security system.
4. There was no chair. Kurt was found laying on the floor. No chair in sight. There are photos. Unless this was referring to the stool that was said to be propped up against the doors of the greenhouse, but that is also false - the stool was on the other side of the room.
5. The physical damage was not so severe that he couldn’t be identified. That is such a fucking lie! The bullet didn’t even leave Kurt’s head. There was later a claim that he could only be identified by his ID - the story changed again but it was still false. By the way, they hadn’t even checked for fingerprints yet since this was only a week after - they waited like 30 days!
6. Kurt’s mom did NOT file the missing persons report - Courtney did it in his mom’s name. Also, Kurt didn’t exactly “flee”... he just checked himself out.
And of course the whole “he committed suicide” is misinformation. Seriously, all but 5 months ago I was a HUGE Courtney fan and defended her constantly. I looked into Kurt’s death to prove all those conspiracy theorists wrong. That’s how I saw the truth. Kurt was murdered. Interesting how the majority of this misinformation comes from Courtney.
WRONG. KURT JUMPED THE FENCE OF THE REHAB CENTER THEN GOT ON A PLANE BACK TO SEATTLE AND HE DIDN'T TELL ANYONE. SO OBVIOUSLY HE DID NOT CHECK HIMSELF OUT OF REHAB YOU FREAK.
his music actually meant, meant, meant... stuff. 7:32
LOL
DarkAdversity Lol, classic
Xander Rose
DarkAdversity no it didn't. it was a bunch of bullshit. I'm glad he died, no more horrible music:)
deez nutz in your mouth! 420 I hope you're just trolling, if not then you are bloody heartless!!
Just sad. Depression & addiction are nightmares individually, mix them together with physical chronic pain, fame & wealth & it has to seem like there's no other way out. RIP Kurt
+ courtney is an awful person
Loved him and loved his music. When I first heard Nirvana I couldn't believe how good they were. Their music, back in the early 90's, sent a shock through your system. They were amazing. They probably were my generations (Gen X) Beatles.
Well said.
They still have this effect, could be event more now that we're flooded with soulless prefabricated music!!
@@enriquepastor3626 Yup they still. It's absolutely incredible. That band is like the band of the century. And it's get to me so much that Kurt, an absolute Icon is longer here with us. I could only imagine what'd he'd be today!
My husband just died of an o.d. If ANYONE dare blamed me, they clearly do not have a clue into any couples secrets and details. Nobody can talk . I feel for her. I found my husband. At first his mother came to our apt screaming at e because she was not allowed up. I couldn't help her. Now she's my mother. U can't judge unless u were at the scene! I knew it was an accident. From the way my husband is, as was later confirmed. U can't judge? Who the hell r u? Did u live with them?
Corinne, I feel for you 100 percent. I think the problem is that Seattle PD did not follow proper procedure. I would hope that the PD where you live took the time to make sure that it wasn't a murder that was trying to be covered up. If there was a weapon involved hopefully it was impounded and checked for prints IMMEDIATELY, not two years after. My professional opinion is that this may have been murder and until this case is reopened and ALL the evidence is put forth there is no way of knowing. Ms. Love was not a caring, loving wife. Read interviews with her before his death. She was horrible to him and was after his money. She even said that she didn't love him like a woman loves a man, she loved him as a "friend". She fell "in love" with his nose. She also had fallen in love with Axl Rose's nose, and she chased after him first. I'm not saying she did anything, I don't know, I wasn't there. BUT I DO KNOW that Seattle PD screwed up, and they don't want to let anyone see that they may have made numerous errors.
The police department I was employed with for 17 years does the same thing. They screw up horribly, many times. I actually saw a woman kill another woman, but the officer reporting didn't want to write down what I saw because of the "paperwork". I am embarrassed to say that I didn't do anything about it at the time, because I needed the job. I'm sure it is the same at Seattle PD.
I hope you are healing, losing someone you love is so hard.
May all your lovers and friends u always loved in life will rest and peace stay strong guys everything gonna be alright ,god bless you.
Corrine Throp I’m sorry for your loss
Off that he says Kurt could only be identified through fingerprints..get Kris Novaselic gave an interview over here with the BBC a while back & described visiting Kurt's body in the undertakers.He said that they'd placed some kind of handkerchief or something across the top part of his head but that he just looked like Kurt sleeping.In fact he said the fact that he just looked asleep shocked him & it was when he held Jury's hand and felt how freezing cold he was that he ended up having nightmares afterwards..the magnitude of what had happened just hit him! Maybe they chose not to embark him & not do too much to his body hence covering his head with a cloth to cover up any obvious damage.Wonder why this reported is saying the complete opposite ???
She made such of a spectacle of "playing" the grieving widow just after his death didn't she?Let's be honest,she isn't THAT good an actress.
Courtney actually was A GRIEVING WIDOW AND SHE HAD FRANCES TO TAKE CARE OF. ALSO SHE IS A VERY GOOD AND TALENTED ACTRESS. KURT KILLED HIMSELF BECAUSE HE WAS A JUNKIE DRUG ADDICT WHO DIDN'T WANT ANYONE TO TELL HIM WHAT TO DO. HE WAS VERY IMMATURE
Nannies took care of Francis, then Kurt's mother and sister took her in.
Rest easy Kurt! You'll always be my favorite musician!!!
So many lies from Courtney in this report, Kurt Loder had know idea she was using and manipulating him to report false information.
People who don't understand Depression will always say "they had so much to live for, they could've went further, they were so young". Mental illness has nothing to do with any of these things. It's not a logical thing.
he wasn't mentally ill, he was under influence
Incorrect..like Chris Cornell too Kurt very much fought depression..never read any of his lyics it's kind of obvious .
I'm still so upset. I cry
courtney was so jealous of him she had to do something about it... period
Blah Nlah blah.debunked conspiracy theorie bs!
"The damage was so severe he could only be identified by fingerprints." Do any research and you will find out that isn't true at all. You could clearly recognize who it was... Just shows media/ratings at the time. Shady..
There's a lot of BS in this video.
Honestly, I've got to come back to this at a later date because it's so depressing. I just 'discovered' Nirvana in late Sept 2013 and I'm still in the stages of grief that Kurt is dead. Love #Nirvana, love Kurt #Cobain, am inspired by him, hate that he's gone, however that happened. And as with everything Nirvana/Kurt Cobain, there seems to be at least three versions of anything that they ever did. It's 20 years later and I don't hold much hope for ever finding out the truth. All the evidence is in the wind. I'm heartened that people still hold Kurt and Nirvana in their hearts. Ignore the thumbs down people. #courtneyloveinterview
I love that after all this time after his death there are still kids discovering him and Nirvana. I was eight years old.
Sorry, I should clarify that. I was eight years old when he died.
❤❤
Remember this all like it was yesterday. It's gross to say, but it's true that Kurt killing himself made Nirvana's music seem that much more legit. He represented all your anger and insecurity and depression and teenage angst, and when he died for it you knew he meant it. Sick, but easy to see why some fans followed suit.
I don't think Courtney or anybody killed the guy - that he was suicidal and wanted to die screams at you from every page of his life, every lyric he wrote - i.e. a song called "I Hate Myself and Want to Die," for fuck's sake. Look on the bright side, suicide. Courtney I'm sure was a handful to deal with, quite possibly not the best influence on a suicidal drug addict, and people have always been more than willing to pound her with the "zeitgeist snowball," but did she plot to murder Kurt and frame it as a suicide, I fucking seriously doubt it.
Later in my 20's I was with a dude for 3 years, mild drugger and drinker when we met, became a major leaguer as things went on, and things got VERY ugly, I left to save my own life, and 3 months later he hung himself. Honestly kind of a similar arch. His parents blamed me for it at the funeral. Should I have seen and known, fucking of course. Nothing worse than 20/20 hindsight on a suicide. But nobody can really be blamed for somebody choosing to do that to himself. Not even a bitch that everybody hates and wanted to see burned at the stake regardless.
Actually his head and face was still intact. He had a bulge on the right side of his head around his temple, and of course the inside of his mouth was pretty fucked up. He used a Remington 20 guage bird shot.
so sad after all this time still hurts
I was 13... I remember this like it was yesterday.
:(
If Kurt hadn't met Courtney he'd be alive. She was an enabler and force him to do things he didn't want to do, she wanted him to play lollapalooza and he didn't want to play anymore, he needed time off.
I agree. She was a master manipulator and took advantage of how sensitive Kurt was and made him feel like shit.
Kurt was way into heroin before Courtney entered his life. He didn’t need her encouragement to go down the reckless path he did, and she frantically tried to get him into treatment several times in the lead up to his death. Stop infantilising him by removing all his agency - he was a grown man and made his own choices.
It wasn't his mother, it was courtney who filed the missing persons report too
This aired on April 14th 1994, my 3rd birthday....we had MTV and VH1 on in my house all the time when I was a young kid, there is a chance my dad was watching this in real time as it aired, he loves music and loved Nirvana, AIC, soundgarden all of the grunge bands. This just gives me chills like nothing else...
Maroon Blossom oh yea I hear you there
😲You were 3 yrs old😂I suddenly feel very old indeed I was born June 1967 & Sergeant Pepper was No1 here in the UK from Liverpool too.
Wow, watching all this just makes me feel like she had something to do with it man...come on...
Yeah it's no question why he wanted to leave her and keep her out of his will.
Kurt was a fukking junkie who was fighting with EVERYONE. DON'T BLAME COURTNEY FOR HIS BAD ATTITUDE. HIS RECORD LABEL WANTED KURT TO GET CLEAN BECAUSE HE WAS COSTING THEM MONEY EVERYTIME THEY HAD TO CANCEL TOUR DATES BECAUSE KURT OVER DOSING ON HEROIN ALL THE TIME.
So much of this is wrong. Courtney Love made the missing person report, she wrote it as being from his mother. She was the one saying he was suicidal and all, not Kurt's mom. And he was identifiable by just looking at him, according to first responders.
I feel that part of Kurt's pain was the disillusionment he felt about society and his place in it along with the people around him. Even though he was rich, famous and millions of people heard and loved his music, perhaps he felt they really didn't know or understand him. I think he was right because it all came to the surface after his death. Perhaps suicide was a way for Kurt to take control of his destiny at a time when he felt so out of control. Maybe it was also a statement that people couldn't control him in the music industry or feel like they owned him just because they bought his records. I doubt Kurt would even want people to mourn his death. He left us with some great music and he felt he gave all he had to give and no longer had the energy to go on with his life. Perhaps he also felt his best years were behind him and there was nothing to look forward to and the effects of depression are brutal as well and the hardest thing anyone can deal with because it's so out of their control. Of course this is all speculative but I too am one of those assholes that has their opinion about certain things based on their own experiences, gut reactions or pre-conceived notions.
Kurt was in denial and didn't think his heroin addiction was that bad. You only have to see his last photos while in Europe, with an open sore and looking like death to know he was wrong. He didn't want anyone's help, so there was no other outcome. Sad
Drug dealers wouldn’t let him use in their houses because they were afraid he would die on them, there was one time he OD’ed and they threw him into his car overnight.
let me get this straight..Kurt's "mother" basically told him not to join the 27 club right before he died..weird
Some bs courtney made up
Regardless of if you think he killed himself or that he didn't - none of that changes the fact that Courtney is a famous liar. You can't take anything she says as the truth. Why debate words that come out of her mouth? It's pointless.
I don't know if I'm ready to admit that Courtney had anything to do with her husband's death, but I agree with you about all the lies she has told.
It's hard not to think it with all the evidence, but it is very hard to grasp that in terms of reality. It doesn't seem real that she would do it. Then you look at all the crazy shit she's done in the past and to other people and you have to be open to the possibility. She's a nutter.
yep
4:15 : at that point, playing the "Unplgged" set on the radio meant playing bootleg stuff :) There were lots of bootleg CDs made from the TV broadcasts in 1994 before the official "Unplugged in NY" album came out at the end of the year.
So much incorrect information in this report.....
U gotta remember this was as it was happening, they don't have all the details we have now, internet was not like it is now, no smartphones, different time, anytime something happens alot of the first reports are just what they are hearing
A father would not leave his daughter behind with someone like his wife.. Not at all. People just feed right into the media shit and his wife new that all along..
Derrick Lake exactly
Fathers commit suicide all the time bro.
It wasn't Kurts mom who reported him missing and reported her fear that he was suicidal. That was Courtney pretending to be Wendy.
kurt did not hate nirvana, he was looking forward to the new album, his stomach hadbeen cured and he had frances, he was at his happiest. do your research and you'll know she killed him.
+princess consuela you are totally right
+princess consuela His stomach had been cured? He mentions his stomach issue in his suicide note. "Thank you all from the pit of my burning, nauseous stomach" Also opiate use causes stomach problems and general abdominal pain. I know I used to be addicted to them. That shit can fuck with your head too and you can fall into a deep depression. Get your head out of your ass, the guy shot himself.
+General Marmoset How do you know that he wrote that note at the time he died?YOU were addicted to opiates too?Well why aren't YOU dead?Why don't you learn the FACTS,because the TRUTH is that the information on this newscast which mostly came from Courtney Love has been proven UNTRUE.
Kurt Cobain was NOT unrecognizable when he was found,his MOTHER did NOT file the missing persons report,Courtney Love did it in his mothers name,and it's pretty clear that a lot of the original "facts" were total lies .....................................
thats because your a nirvana fan!! his own mother knew he was suicidal..... and had a shotgun. so is she in on it. come off it. he was a genuis.but he was a very tormented man
Jon Williams You don't know the facts-that's not true about his mother-actually Courtney Love ADMITS that SHE filed that missing person report FALSELY in Wendy Cobains name.Kurt mother did NOT file that missing persons report,that was Courtney and thats an established FACT.
Lot of misinformation in this clip. lmagine *that*!
28 grams is actually 1 ounce... No way can a person do an ounce of dope a day...
***** Do you realize how much an ounce of dope is?? You would be shooting up 28 gram bags in day...nah i don't believe it.
There isnt a heroin addict on this planet that can do a ounce of dope a day. It cant be done, I dont care what anyone says about tolerance. UNFORTUNATELY I've been down that road.
@Ovy Licker and ur comment is called....Commenting on something u obviously have never done. Which is good and I don't recommend ever doing it. But u shouldn't comment on something u obviously have no clue about. JS that's all
@Ovy Licker u clearly dont know what ur talking about. Go ask a doctor of theres a difference between eating oxycodone or hydrocodone pills versus shooting dope. U CANNOT SHOOT ANYWHERE NEAR THAT MUCH DOPE IN A DAY, A PERSON WOULD BE LUCKY TO DO IT IN A WEEK.
with a really big tolerance that he probably had its possible to do that much in a 24-36 hour period. Im sure he was shooting up a couple grams every shot.
So sad his pain was so severe he couldn't live in this world
Rip kurt and stay strong Courtney , Frances , Dave , Krist , And Pat for one day I hope we can all see him again
WHAT IS THE FREAKING TRUTH....... I DON'T TRUST ANYONE AT THIS POINT.
MURDER
For her to say that, and then say she cut of a lock of his hair was sickening to me even though it was a lie made me wonder what else she was lieing about
was not a lie, it was kept in a buddhist shrine she had in her home - can be seen in her barbara walters interview
She hired a hit man to a private detective!!
Nothing will change my mind to the fact that Courtney Love in responsible for Kurt’s death. So sad.
At 14 I didn’t really understand what had happened, in truth I’m still not sure I am any closer to understanding why Kurt did what he did. It’s more upsetting now, with two children of my own and I simply could not imagine leaving them. I will always love Nirvana but just wished that things could have been different and Kurt had been able to access the help and support that he needed. Extremely sad story and really feel for Francis x
This is all bs!!his mother didn't call,Courtney did.She knows what happen,soon everyone will..!!
And you can't see the Puget Sound from the banks of Lake Washington..
"I hate playing with them, I want to play with Michael Stipe" yeah bs, if he hated playing with them so much he wouldn't of been planning another Nirvana album to come out in Jan 1995.
No,not neccessarily!micheal stipe from rem has said that kurt cobain and him were in talks too work were together!but nothing did happen!im stating a fact!
Kurt said in one of his last Interviews: I HAVEN'T WRITTEN ANY NEW SONGS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NEXT FEW YEARS WILL BE LIKE OR WHAT WILL HAPPEN.
SO OBVIOUSLY HE WAS NOT DOING A NEW RECORD.
It's impresive, everyone throw shit -many misoginistic crap - to Courtney Love. She is not a saint, that's clear, she had some guilt in Cobain's mental downfall and hard drug use, that's true, but now everyone claims that she is an assasin. "Kurt & Courtney" and "Soaked in Bleach" did the job very well, specially the last one, cause is more "serious" documentary and more believable to people who always was suspicious and always hate her from the begininng. "Kurt & Courtney" was crap, and i know people who believe that he was murdered and said it so. That doc was bullshit, so, they had to do more serious job and came with "Soaked... which was delayed in its release to match with "Montage of Heck", which is not very good.
The best documentary for me is "About a Son".
Tom Grant lovers gonna hate me and insult me, off course. Cheers.
can someone plz tell me the name of the song around 4:18 thats playing in the background?
BlackJack on a plain
@@jakewestenberger6981 already found it but i appreciate the answer
You should give me the source of that study of the heroin concentration. If you're referring to the study in the Kurt & Courtney documentary its wrong; they later admitted that the study in that movie was actually methadone and it was taken orally, so there is no comparison there. They apologized for the mistake after the movie was released but it was already to late.
Random moment here, but isn't that Carrie Brownstein at 3:49 ?
He didn't take himself out. The world did.
Stoned Canines Courtney did
What if it was every conspiracy put together??
Stoned Canines what?
back in 1994 i read an article where kurt said he spent about 600 to 700 dollar a day on his habit. i remember reading that it always stuck with me. it also said, "i get ripped off. Drug dealers dont care im a celebrity. I dont get deals." i quoted that, but might not be exact tho its what he said... maybe a few diff words but same thing... so even tho courtney if wrong here cause i cant believe 28grams! but 600 dollars a day is a lot! even at 100$ a bundle.
AutumnAsh81 it was more like 400 a day the max amount he could take out the atm
For the past few days,I've been extremely bothered whenever I listen to nirvana or think of Kurt because I know he's dead but I think someone could've helped or he could've reached out for help and I just wish he was still alive.I literally end up getting upset,sad,and my eyes get watery.Sometimes I question if Courtney murdered him and made it look like a suicide,she was a crazy bitch.
Anna..I' m from England and knew Michelle Harrison AKA Courtney Love from when she came over here to live in the early 80' s ( I was a teen & she infiltrated my friendship group ,we were all in bands in Liverpool) Believe me..apart from her being a self obsessed bore .. NO way was she capable of being instrumental in settling up some sort of elaborate suicide ' hoax'.I' m a true Generation X' er & one thing I know from listening to those first bootleg tapes I got sent from the US of Soundgarden & AIC..and seeing Nirvana play when they were just a support act is that for Kurt & Chris Cornell it was sadly pre-order determined from an early age that their demise would be at their own hand ..lyrically repeated by both men for years . .I used to work in the field of mental health ,I also got a diagnosis once upon a time in the late 90' s of Bipolar after I too took a massive overdose..Leading up to it even though my life was talking apart I seemed ' ok' was laughing & joking..My friend committed suicide 15yrs ago at the age of just 29 ,he'd become a new father & was a great dad..depression doesn't discriminate ,doesn't matter if you're living in the street or a multi millionaire in a rock band..depression KILLS..I cried when Kurt Cobain died ,cried when Chris Cornell died too ( very same day my own father died too 😢) but was I surprised that either had committed suicide...no ,not a tall.Can't believe he's been gone 27 yrs..been dead for the same amount of years he was on the planet ,born in 1967 like me .
Courtney didn't murder Kurt. That's just ridiculous.
Did anyone notice how he acknowledged the lady who was wearing the same shirt as him?
MTV used to have way more journalistic integrity. WTF ever happened? what a well done piece of investigative research.
Depression is hell and a family disease. The Cobain curse, whether intended or not, is a reference, at least to me, to the Hemingway curse.
she only lies...
Not sure if it's still in print but the book of his "Journals" shows that even pre-fame, he suffered mental illness. Damn sad.
Still hits like that day
Even with free dope while selling i did almost 7 grams a day between me and my girl. Smoking. 28 Is impossible.
Thank u, UNFORTUNATELY I too know that it's impossible to shoot a ounce a day, I dont care if ur a billionaire, u cannot build up a tolerance that high. I'm glad those days are behind me but I KNOW IT CAN'T BE DONE.
All of this shit is stuff that Courtney told the media that wasn't true. Tom Grant has proved it.
also to they said in lots of story's that there was no finger prints! on the gun!
Yea, fingerprints, dna? DNA from the cigarette butts that were there? Prints on the shell casing? On his "kit"? Door handles? I think he was scared of something/someone and he went there to get high, forget, chill awhile - think. But I also think somebody, a " friend" was also there with him...he may very well have done lots of H but I think the "friend" shot him while he was fucked up...for CL..
The saddest thing about all of it is the fact that Kurt actually loved that woman! Said it many many times in interviews. You can't help who you fall in love with, too bad he didn't get to sign the divorce papers first... Somebody would have gotten a big surprise ... And that would have been pure Kurt irony. Rip legend ✌💙💫
All I can say is I did a line of heroin once. Never did it before. I cut it out like coke, like an idiot. All I know is I felt like I was getting drunker and drunker till I felt I was gonna pass out. Then I did. Lucky I woke up, cause that's how you die, respiratory depression and such. That was years ago and everytime I hear of H it makes me physically sick. I'd never touch another opiate in my life. Now alcohol, that's a whole 'nother story...
I'm glad you're okay! drugs are a devastating thing
he was just a depressed man addicted to heroine and couldnt kick the habbit. accept it * The End
Poor Kurt, people talking about how he used to be, they shouldn't talk about him, i don't think he was himself with most of the people he met. Stop talking about him, stop of making movies, documentaries and books about him, we need to remember him for his music and nothing else
But then how would people continue to make money off of him?
There’s no way he said that
OMG, lady, you sound ridiculous. Yeea, I also have a 28 gram a day heroin habit (sarcasm) HAHA. If someone did they better check their source, probably just a bunch of cut. If you are IVing the heroin, no way can you have a 28 gram a day habit; i'm guessing you must just smoke it. Tolerance doesnt make you invincible. The amount kurt had in his system was 3 times higher then any amounts recorded for even sever addicts. There has never been one documented case that resembles kurts heroin levels.
Honestly I've bet it was very depressing that he died at that time. I would've been depressed also. He wanted to do his own thing but Courtney didn't allow that to happen which that sucks. Honestly it's crazy how everyone was effected by this tragic death. Btw is that MIA at 7:30?
Seriously??? You are blaming Courtney? Were you there??? Did you know Kurt and Courtney??? Just STFU.
I need that computer!
I really don't care about Love's words.
Miss this man so much
Courtney is such I liar. Kurt and Michael didn't have a "close friendship".
People say she didn't act right after he killed himself well she heavily medicated so yeah she was a bit numb
media shit like this and other super star trappings are some ov the things that drove this great musician insane r.i.p.
Long Live KURT COBAIN!
lieeeeeeeeees he loved the band he did
There it was. He even must of told his mother about the rock n roll 27 club. Thats why he did it folks
2:36 my favourite moment of Kurt Cobain (1967-1994)
Appallingly insensitive reporting
so nirvana was falling apart before he died anyway?
Everything4405 I think he would have gone solo.
Pretty much. Kurt was in a very severe downward spiral in the last six or so months of his life and was pretty much completely estranged from everyone except his junkie friends and dealers. Krist and Dave didn’t do hard drugs so Kurt had no time for them any more, sadly.
Courtney covering her back and setting up the alibi.
With that much heroin in him he would find it hard to stay conscious let alone get all his ID and everything else laid out neatly.
The thing about heroin is when you ain't got any you feel ill and he could have felt suicidal. But when you got heroin you get "on a plain"
In his own words, he explains it perfectly.
So with all the evidence in soaked in bleach and the lack of evidence available to the public it seems like murder, or a heroin overdose cover up to make sure heroin didn't become more cooler than it was in the train spotting era.
so she cut hair from kurt while his face was rearranged? and washed it?
***** what interview?
***** Actually he hated racism, sexism, and homophobia dipshit.
***** idk how you folks know i am black and you call me a kid when ill be 18 in 2 years
Everything4405 dont listen to that dipshit... he didnt hate black people. many direct quotes where he spoke the exact opposite. "if any of you hate people of different color or women or homosexuals in ANY way please do us a favor: FUCK OFF dont buy our records dont come to our shows!...just FUCK OFF!"
Everything4405 He wasnt racist, and please ignore anybody that is, Anybody that can spew that kind of talk is obviously racist themselves. The kind of people he would of hated would of been BSHIKO.
I agree with you, tho I am not one of those that are convince she did it but I do believe that she had thought about it and even perhaps looked into getting him killed'murdered-- but I think he breast her to it. That's my thinking
I heard that the gun didn't disfigure him, hard to believe I think.
I don't understand this to this day, nobody checked his freezing house? His friend Dylan buys him a shotgun, his depressed, recovering friend. Just bizarre
I wonder if she still has those locks of his hair....
She does
clone that shit
+Stefan I was being sad but that was classic.
Ryan McGonigle she does. She showed it. Also his ash. Jacket that was beside etc
Why say he cld only be id'd by fingerprints. We know now his head & face were intact. Just one of many inconsistencies.
Hes a legend! Love them! So wish he didn't go thru with suicide... :(
IT WASN'T HIS MOM WHO CALLED THE COPS IT WAS FUCKING COURTNEY
I feel pain watching it..
I'm crying
"Someone who had all his dreams come true" this person really doesnt know whatshe's talking about!
how?
Kurt chased fame very hard in the lead up to Nevermind - was running around LA with Krist getting wined and dined by the big labels, finding lawyers to get Nirvana out of contract with Sub Pop, trying to get a big name to manage the band. This is extremely well documented. Maybe you don’t know as much as you think you do?
I think society in general murdered him.I think it does to more than we know. :(
Kurt Cobain, Josh Ramsay and Sam Smith will always be my top favorites. RIP Kurt
This is how everybody found out about the death, and hearing Courtney read his suicide note
Not true at all. I was a bartender at a club in Seattle and when I got hm. I turned on the local news, it was just the beginning of reporting it....that is how all of Seattle found out. That and word of mouth.
If he hadnt done drugs or suffered from depression and suicidal thoughts throughout his adult life Nirvana wouldnt have been nirvana